As a member of the Swax and HBG main crowd, I support this message. We arrive, we brrrt damage to the Monster's face, we evade, then brrrt more damage. Also, yes, some HBG's can use recover ammo. Recover is second to just revving up for dps though sadly. B-tier is a win for coop if you ask me.
Yeah, honestly I think every weapon is fantastic. They all just do different things but some folks prefer DAMAGE ONLY and that's fine too. I wish i did see more players going for recovery ammo. It is kinda hard to hit your teammates with them when they're flying all over the place tho. And going over this list made me want to try SA more
@@TeraRyza Switch axe is a lot of fun and being able to get the skill slots to Zero Sum off the ground to the monster's face over and over before your sword mode cooldown is chaotic fun. Swax is perfect for being super aggressive. For HBG I always carry recover ammo but like you said, actually landing hits on your teammates is rough. When it can be managed though it feels good to be even minor support in between belt-fed wyverheart dopamine hits.
@Phimic Thank you very much man. I'm kinda hard on myself by default unfortunately and think i can do so many things better, but then i get comments from viewers like you here and there and well it helps to reassure me that I'm doing fine and still growing. So again, thank you for your kind words as they mean more than you know 😄
i mainly used insect glaive on my first time going trough MHW. I feel like its worth mentioning too that getting all 3 buffs on the glaive gives a much better buff while also modifying the move set a bit. Getting a monster down with all 3 buffs up is extremely satisfying since the move set chains together very well essentially making it one long combo.
Just need the red buff to get the enhanced moveset. Otherwise yeah, getting all the buffs gives you an improved buff that can be enhanced with flinch free, but red buff is always the main priority as without it you'll deal significantly less damage.
I play both IG and SWAX and I gotta disagree with the video. IG is a lot easier than Swax, and a lot more forgiving. From the gameplay shown in the video you could see the creator doesn't play IG and doesn't know much about it. As the others already said in the replies: get red buff and your moveset changes, so much so that you gain a true flow to your attacks. Getting the tripple buff is usually the first thing I try in any hunt, as the benefits make the hunt just that much easier, and I generally try to keep 100% uptime. Compared to Swax, which was rated higher here in this tier list, IG is a lot easier. Your aerial jumps evade a lot of monster attacks, Descending Thrust (R2 from air) is one of your heaviest hitters. The ground combos push some series dps, the weapon reacts fast and by its nature avoids many monster attacks, whereas Swax seems simpler in mechanics, but is a lot more difficult to play well as you will end up getting hit a lot, as it takes time getting used to limited movespeeds and side hop dodges in axe form. I help a lot of SOS flares and I see far more Swax carts than IG carts
Charge blade has an awkward learning curve but was well worth learning with large damage potential, access to both blunt and slashing damage and my favorite part being guard points being parts of your attacks are able to automatically guard, giving you access to a frame 1 guard.
been playing it since GU and absolutely love it, totally worth the time learning especially if you are already familiar with sns and countering with guards.
people don't usually block with GS because the shoulder charge can eat an attack and let you reposition so you can immediately go back to your tcs combo
As a great sword main I would still on occasion insta block a roar or something on wake up I knew I wouldnt be able to avoid otherwise. Something like a 1% of the time usage for most people im assuming.
One notable thing about lances and gunlances is that their melee attacks have the ability to take the hit zone value of whichever damage type is better between cutting and impact damage. So you’re always dealing the best possible damage consistently against any body part on the monster. Gunlance bolsters this further by using shelling to ignore hit zone calculations altogether.
@@TeraRyza Yeah. I started out 5th gen MH as a Gunlance and went to Lance on Rise/Sunbreak. I really like lance's more agile moveset that doesn't really require resources to sink into it like munitions or wirebugs. But Gunlance is still a very liked weapon for me still.
The mobility is what gets me about the lance. It is one of the fastest weapons in the game both in movement and attack speed with the ability to switch movement and defense with the snap of the fingers.
Wow, I knew the Lance was good, but I never thought to look into the damage calculations because I'm a filthy casual, but this has really helped me understand more about my favorite weapon thanks
My experience with the weapons was entirely the opposite. World was my first MH game, and I picked it up on release for PC. I at least knew some about the game because I had friends who were fans of the series, and a streamer I watched played it on console. So I was aware ahead of time that the charge blade was "one of the hardest weapons to learn" so I didn't try using it at all while learning the game. Instead I ended up settling mostly on IG and a little HBG, because a shotgun sounded fun. This was even before I was aware of the Glutton meta. I ended up more or less getting carried through the ATKT Sieges by my friends, really only contributing to mantle breaking with a highly specific HBG build. After like my 3rd "kill" on her I ended up getting the super meta Ice CB at the time, my friend was really jealous because she'd been trying to farm that item for a week. So I put together a build for the CB since I had a pinnacle weapon, and set out learning the weapon. I started out by hunting a Tempered Teostra, quite frankly a fight I honestly sucked at at the time. It went about as hilariously terrible as you'd expect, but I felt like the weapon kinda clicked with me early. So I went about doing more Temp Teo fights. It took me about 3 hunts before I managed to figure out how to *actually* set up, and time SAED hits, and how to balance the playstyles. Mind you I had *no idea* how things like guard points worked, but I felt like the charge blade wasn't much harder to learn than my main weapon, the IG.
@@Deadsnake989 This is a old comment yet its so funny to see it bc I main IG and love it so much, but im trying to branch out my dmg possibilities so I'm Trying SA and CB. I do lots on siege with insect glaive but still trying these 2 now. Both SA and CB feels good but I think its because I Learned/mastered IG and I think that kinda helps with the mechanical part.
@@DGoldys I've been getting back into MHW as a new friend wants to give it a try. Been a ton of fun helping him get into it. We have another friend who's a veteran like me running around. The new friend is going Greatsword, other veteran is hunting horn, so I'm trying Swaxe for the first time. Been a bunch of hilarity.
Ive had over 15000 hunts done with the lance and although i play all other weapons in the game ive come to a conclusion that i enjoy this weapon the best. It is a methodical weapon in the way you have to learn a monster's patterns and movesets to be able to stay on them at all times. The lance is a fairly aggressive playstyle once you master the fundamentals of pance play being when to side step, hop back, counter or go into your power guard. All these things together make the lance q highly aggressive and underrated weapon that can do some outright dangerous things
@@ToxicallyMasculinelol so I have been playing the monster hunter series since Monster Hunter on the Playstation 2 and average about 2k + hours on each save I have and have mostly played lance throughout the years. Currently I still play Iceborne and have continued to play the lance. 15000 hunts is not something unattainable and while hard to do yes the love for this franchise keeps me coming back and genuinely I never get bored. I play all the weapons that one just to me, I've found that it teaches you the fundamentals of a Monster's moveset because if you don't maneuver yourself correctly you have virtually zero damage output; I feel everyone should play this weapon as it will make you better in other areas of the game
The nice thing about the swax is that the axe mode can uppercut and launch ally’s in the air to mount monsters. Pain to set up, but satisfying when it works lmao.
@@markhidalgo5712I remember running an event with AT ruiner nerg, and seeing three other HH user join. We had so much fun bullying nerg 😂😂 his roar did nothing to us we bashed right through roars.
Intermediate to high level lance is from my experience very aggressive precisely because of the defensive options that it has. Basically because it has the best blocking ability, it is able to stick to the monster for a long time and keep on poking
I play lance and its so freaking fun just going sicko mode on the monster and perfect guarding every single move with the counter and doing nuts damage you feel like ur unstoppable
Can't forget to mention that its one of the best weapons out there for cutting off tails! Especially ones up high on the bigger monsters. Don't feel like its commonly known among the playerbase.
Completely agree. I've got 2000 hours of almost lance only on mhw and have used it since mf1. Really disappointed that it still gets labeled as "slow and defensive" like it did in this video. It's non-stop aggression with pokes and counters. Mhw added the ability to block from lance charge which made it even more nuts as your ability to stick close became a whole lot less riskier!
For pure damage then the Fatalis is the top hunting horn, however I'd say the Safi'Jiva horns are better overall as you get to customise what sort of song load-out you bring, as well as covering damage and inflicting statuses while not sacrificing too much damage overall.
agreed. support weapons are about options and adaptability not damage. Personally, i don't think he should count any of the Fatalis weapons since they are meant to be THE endgame weapon after beating everything.
The happiest I've ever seen an SOS group be is when I joined a Blackveil Vaal Hazak hunt, noticed none of them had Effluvia resistance, then switched to a Safi All Ailments Negated horn. The SnS Wide-Range guy in that party said he'd forever use a HH on Vaal afterward. Not constantly having to pop Nullberries + pots for his friends was a massive QOL increase.
Greetings young hunter @TeraRyza. From a Monster Hunter 1 player to another we've both witnessed the progress of the game so far and although you've addressed all weapons and their respective tier spot we could both agree that it was a very holistic approach and some new comers might be missing a few key-factors that will make their gameplay a whole lot more fun. Here are my inputs for new hunters: 1. Great Sword: One of the highest on-hit damage weapons in the game at the cost of mobility, however playing with Velkana gear and Critical Draw, any hunter will have a lot of fun playing the hit and run game. The impact of each draw will be extremely satisfying, with high numbers on a monster's dome or tendered weak spot. Also is a weapon that allows players to mount monsters at east, while playing around the ledges of terrain. 2. Sword and Shield: Besides being a very versatile weapon, you can actually eat consumables with the weapon drawn and everyone will appreciate a SNS player that runs Wide-Range (which, once maxed out, is a skill applies all consumables to their full capacity to team members within the same range) to lash some damage and heal and buff the entire party. On top of that, it is very easy to KO monsters or even mount them. I personally run SNS to help new players clear Fatalis since I'm in charge of the Canons, Turrets, Gauntling guns & Dragonator. 3. Long Sword: It's a fairly easy to use this weapons and to my eyes, also requires some mechanical skill. This weapon allows you to counter monster's attacks with a perfect timed parry, that once done right, you can buff the damage and increase your spiritual gauge in a few seconds. This weapons allows you to parry nearly everything (including monster's roars) with a very forgiving i-frame windows. Helm breaker is one of my favorite animations and the high hit numbers paired with the monster reactions are extremely satisfying. 4.Dual Blades: My weapon of choice. Not only it makes me look like a ninja by dashing and flipping everything and everyone but also is one of the weapons that allows you to tenderize parts during your combo, instead of using your clutch claw twice to tender a weak spot. Building Elemental damage with Critical Boost around these weapons will allows you to stagger monsters in a particular place, lash out extremely high DPS and often used for Speed Runs. 5. Hammer: A very straight forward weapon. Everyone should eat Black Belt Cat at the canteen, alongside with constitution and Stamina Surge decorations, run around with the Hammer Charged and land some hit and run uppercuts to KO a monster. Once KO'd, always prioritize Big Bang combo which is the bread and butter for Hammer players. Play around special terrain that allows you to slide and performing some flippy flippy attacks. High dmg output alongside with mounting monsters at ease. Bonus Tip: You can charge the hammer once with R2 + Circle/B for PS4/XBOX controllers. Your hammer will glow and this buff will only be gone if you either get Knocked or you Sheath your weapon. 6. Hunting Horn: Besides of the mutual respect we have for these players, don't sleep on it's damage. Even as a solo player, if you use your Palico to bait the monster aggro or trap him, you can lash out insane amount of damage with their combo. Don't sleep on this weapon. 7. Lance: Back in Monster Hunter 1 days, Fatalis Lance was my weapon of choice. I would wait for a monster to spawn in my area (we used to have loading screens for each area) and by spamming the up attacks, I could stagger any monster in a infinite loop. Definitely a very cheese weapon of choice. Currently you have perfect block/counter that if time properly you can deal insane amount of damage if you reflect an attack back to the monster. 8. Gun Lance: A very reliable weapon of choice for the most tenured hunters. When you play around Wyvern Stings and Shells paired with Artillery and Bombardier skills, your damage output can reach really high. Currently a weapon of choice to cheese monsters in a opener (iDevaste is a YT MHW content creator that often has speed-runs under a minute with this weapon), so don't sleep on this one either. 9. Switch Axe: A weapon that allows you to axe monsters for eternity specially if you have stamina depletion reduction buffs. In addition, once you turn it into Sword Mode and fill in the Attack Buff gauge, you can attach yourself to monsters and blow them up constantly. My weapon of choice to slay Val & Raging Brachydios. Make sure to bring some Rocksteady mantles and you can literally cheese monsters with it. 10. Charged Blade: One of the most technical weapons in the game, however it is extremely rewarding playing with it. Anyone should definitely give it a go and check for SAED or Savage Axe builds to deal insane amount of elemental / impact damage. I'm currently running Guiding Lands with it. Pro Tip: Always make sure that you buff your shield with 5/6 Phials which it allows it to be buffed by 3+ minutes. After that, perform your normal rotation and you can also pair it with perfect timing blocks in order to lash out your highest damaging attack. 11. Insect Glaive: I agree that is one of the most awkward weapon to play with however I would say that I use it for very specific hunts. Definitely one of the easiest weapons to mount monsters since you're constantly attacking them from above. Make sure to use your insect to extract monster's buffs (Red, Yellow & White) to fully power up your weapon. I'm constantly bringing it to farm Alatreon since the strategy to kill this dragon is to break it's horns first. With this weapon using Fire/Ice elemental is extremely easy to reach the damage thresholds of this monster and constantly mount it or break his horns, which will allow you to survive the Super Nova phase. 12. Light Bow Gun (LBG): Not the highest damaging weapon from the ranged loadout however it extremely versatile to play with. You can reload it while sliding and you can run around with sticky ammo for more consistent DPS & breaking monster's parts. Definitely a weapon of choice for end game content such as Guiding Lands. 13. Heavy Bow Gun (HBG): Considered to be one of the highest DPS weapons in the game and often used for speed-runs. I admire a 4-player squad that just bombards a monster with Cluster bombs or a hunter that plays around with Spread Shots. Whenever I see a spread-shoot hunter with a HBG, I just allow him to cook. The insane amount of damage output paired with constant staggers, KOs and Broken parts from the monster, I feel myself compelled to just observe the beauty (and sound of it) and collecting dropped monster materials on the floor. When you collect a Wyvern Tear material, you know that the monster you were hunting was not having a good day. On top of it, you can either run a Gauntling Gun weapon or Sniper mode. Back in MHW (1st expansion) I was able to 2 shot a Bazelgeuse. 14. Bows: One of the highest elemental ranged weapons in the game, hands down. It has KO potential (paired with an Impact Mantle), insane amount of burst, you can also KO a monster with your x2 Circle/B combo that launches pebbles in the sky and if you manage to land a Dragon Piercing attack from Head to Tail into a monster you can easily cheese it (and also slice some tails off). It's another weapon of choice to speed run Alatreon with a Dragon Pierce builds paired with Smoke Bombs. Those are overall my insights and I'm pretty certain more could be added on top of it, however I felt compelled to provide some details about each weapon potential and practical examples of their application. Happy Hunting everyone 😏
Thank you very much for the info! Just starting World and bought Rise and sunbreak at a low cost! I am currently Bonking heads with the hammer but seeing all these other weapon tips (Especially the hunting horn!) makes me wanna try out different weapons! So thank you for the info once again! Saved it all on my phone and will copy it onto a document to stare at while playing World!
I'm surprised that the lance was rated so low, In my opinion it's the one true S tier weapon, The only weapon that you can be hitting the monster 100% of the time and on monster parts you want to attack. It makes all the monsters in the game turn into loot pinata's rather than actual bosses you are fighting. Struggling with Nergigante's dive bomb? Deviljho's fire breath? Or any attack that Diablos does? The lance can turn those attacks AGAINST the monsters. The lance might have lower damage, but if you get efficient with where you are attacking you can clear hunts faster than most other weapons. It's the turtle that wins the race, let's be honest.... Most of you aren't the hare, you're not speedrunning these monsters. The lance is the GOAT in terms of getting the job done.
blocking with the GS EATS sharpness like theres no tomorrow, so instead I'll shoulder bash or roll. Also, in the fatalis fight, the Lance and Gunlance (and maybe Chargeblade but im not sure) can block its cone fire attack, which also prevents the fire from moving past you which has saved me and i've saved others with it many a time. This wouldn't change their team ranking, but for Fatalis specifically, i would have them up a rank
Yea I was kinda shocked to find out you can just block the Fatalis cone breath with greatsword even with no levels of guard, it can definitely save your life in a pinch. I typically don’t block with greatsword except for rare, last resort instances like that, however sometimes I do block roars with GS which can be useful if you are unable to roll i-frame the roar or shoulder check for whatever reason. I typically run evade window and roll through stuff. Also what I like to do is keep a farcaster at the ready, so if I totally get out of position and i’m about to die to the cone breath you can just farcaster out
Something of note with insect glaive: the descending thrust attack does M A S S I V E damage to large monsters, as long as you pick a slow kinsect. Slow kinsects hit multiple times during the thrust whereas the fast bois hit maybe twice. This move done properly absolutely demolishes Fatalis, Alatreon, Namielle, Kulve, etc. Fun fact: slap an ice elemental bug on and you can hit Alatreon's elemental threshold very quickly, freeing up your weapon to be a raw glaive. Slotting in Flinch Free and at least one level of earplugs, tremor res, or wind res will grant you max lvl of those skills with all 3 kinsect extracts active. Good idea for those eho want to ignore roars while airborne
Another great factor for Insect Glaive as a support: the Speed-type Kinsects drop healing dust when hitting a marked monster allowing for some passive heals amidst combat.
I enjoy the heals solo at times but the ability to overlap status effects with the glaives dust and your palico is filthy with the ability to nearly always be staggering the monster or mounting it. Then bomb dust is decent for just staggering and raw damage.
I completely maxed out my hunter in sunbreak so decided to replay iceworld again, nearly forgot how amazing charge blade feels in this game. every hit and SAED feels so satisfying and way more badass.
@@sacrificialscapegoat209 counter element SAED is insane in sunrise but I think the sounds and the looks of the SAED in iceworld feel way more awesome. it feels a lot more substantial and has a lot more punch to it.
@@chaoticboy626 in base rise the damage hitbox didn't even match the phial explosion animations. it took capcom until sunbreak was released to fix it. plus it was either use impact or fire cb. hard times for cb 😅
With the right setup of gear like Stamina Surge and Constitution, Bow deserves a way better spot on the list imo. Not necessarily the pinnacle, but personally I'd call it better than both bowguns because even though you trade a lot of utility, you get a lot of mobility and flexibility which is huge in a game like this. It's not really that much of a 5-head weapon, you just have to be smart and not run your stamina out too quickly and save the big moves for the big openings. The only "advanced" mechanic of the bow is understanding the sweet spot for when your shots are at maximum power, which the game tells you by default with the double ring crosshair instead of the single ring. The spread shot takes up way more stamina than a regular shot but if you lead any combo with a spread shot then the game doesn't charge you any stamina for it, so you can go spread-normal-normal-normal and get plenty of mileage with almost no stamina drained, because the game allows you to regen stamina by default at a pretty solid pace. Just don't be dumb about it and allow yourself some leftover stamina to evade when necessary. The bow is also a far cry from lacking in overall damage by the time you're at endgame. My build is far from optimized and yet I'm still hitting for 35+ damage per arrow - a normal shot is 3 arrows (~90-105 damage per 3 hit) and the spread shot is 5 arrows (~150-175 if all 5 hit), and these numbers will only go higher as my bows and armor skills get better, as well as things like demondrug or power coatings. Watching a bow speedrun a monster you can see that a spread-shot on a softened target can hit for 75+ per arrow, but it can hit that softened body part every time, like a high up Anjanath tail or a Palomu's inflated face while it's flying, for example. But you also aren't waiting on the sidelines when the monster is flying or walks away from you. Bow can output almost as much damage as a greatsword because bow has much less downtime by virtue of not being held back by the target's mobility. Compile dash juice and maybe evade extender on top of this if you can fit it, bow has near equal damage output as some of the weapons with bigger raw numbers like greatsword and hammer. This really comes into play in multiplayer situations while you mindlessly fire away at the flying monster your buddy mounted say a Rathalos, and layer on 400-500 damage for free while the other allies just watch until the monster crashes, since its out of reach of the clutch claw. Granted, I play keyboard + mouse so I guess maybe it doesn't hit the same as controller since I'm essentially playing an almost completely different game lol. Watching you play for that little bit of time near the end made me uncomfortable because the turning was so slow but I think if you tried it on keyboard and mouse you'd like it a lot more. Bow is very comfy on PC which is why I haven't swapped from it mostly, but I also have a lot of trouble with weapons that require motion inputs. I wanted to be an SnS main but I just couldn't manage the inputs at the time hahaha. It's a trade-off. Bow leaves you very squishy though. Sometimes, especially in tempered hunts, if I have no choice but to position poorly then a monster can just look in my direction and I die. Just last night I joined an SOS to fight a tempered black Diablos and she ran at me and 1-shot me. I think that Capcom knew the bow was going to be very good and did that on purpose because otherwise you'd be getting equal defenses of a greatsword (minus the block) with nearly equal damage output in the hands of a dedicated player. I haven't really seen how, or how much, elemental defense matters since I've only ever played bow so I can't expand too much on that. My overall point being, I think the bow is better than what you give it credit for.
Spittin’ facts. Bow has some of the highest dps in comparison to the most weapons in the game. I think it sits lower on the tier list due to ease of use by the average/casual player and its “glass cannon” nature , which is fair tbh.
@@mul25 Here is a link to a KB+M controls guide from one of the best bow players in World. He also has really good bow guides in general, would recommend checking them out too. th-cam.com/video/jq-R9Z6PuuQ/w-d-xo.html
Nah, HbG is easy mode. You MIGHT get higher dps with huge time investment in bow, but a old geezer like me, easily can outdamage 90% of bow users by putting a shield on the hbg. When I discovered it, it ruined the game for me, it became all too easy. I started with hammer, passed to bow, then hbg. I recommend not to play hbg because of this, you trivialize all the encounters in the game except lunastra.
This comment section: "as a *insert weapon* main i can tell you that if you use this and that with my favourite weapon it is objectively SSS tier and beats all the other weapons"
Just stumbled upon this video as I'm getting back into World on PC (was originally on PS4 back when it first came out). I thought your commentary was fair and came from experience; focusing on the strengths but also acknowledging any shortcomings. Also liked the cooperative tier list at the end. Only critique I would give is to tone down the background music. Definitely didn't overtake your voice, but was just loud enough to be distracting at times.
I know these lists are always personal opinions, so here are mine lol. Greatsword: One of the hardest weapons to use because you depend more on your knowledge of the monster than the weapons knowledge. S Tier. Sword and Shield: 3:07 Perfect Rush goes brrrrrrrt. A Tier. Longsword: Just learn to hit your counters, then you're good with Longsword. A Tier . DB: Evade, no matter the circumstances, evade at all cost. A Tier. Also I'm pretty sure the highest DPS goes Bow dash dance or one of the bowguns. Hammer: Power charge gives you knockback protection against flinching, some attacks, some roars, plus other buffs. Very few to say about it honestly, bonk, spin2win, ledge spam, don't forget to charge. A Tier, B if there's a bowgun on the hunt. Hunting Horn: As a HH main, SSS Tier. B if there's a bowgun on the hunt. Shout out to the other 9 HH players. Lance: I like Lance, poke, block counter poke, poke, run and poke, never stop poking. A Tier. Shout out to the 10 Lance players out there. Gunlance: The weapon that allowed me to kill AT Velkhana. A Tier. Switch Axe: ZSD goes brrrrrrrt. A Tier. Charge Blade: This weapon feels so good to use, GP to SAED is just to good. A Tier. Insect Glaive: JE SUIS MONTE A Tier. Bowgun: Status ammo, elemental ammo, sticky. S Tier, C if I'm playing Hammer and other is using Sticky on the head. Heavy Bowgun: Spread, Pierce, Sticky. S Tier, D if I'm playing HH and other is using Sticky on the head. Bow: This shit is a shotgun, bring traps, coat, dash dance and wrecked shit. A Tier. For multiplayer I will say depends more on the player.
I am a fan of this list. The reason why is because you ranked everything similarly high and I'm a firm believer that there are no bad weapons at all. Good stuff man
I love using the SWAX so much, as someone who isn't a hardcore monster hunter world gamer but HAS played it off and on since release--- It's one of my favorite weapons, focusing on targeting busting heads with the axe and sniping tails with the sword mode when I dump out my burst damage. It's so much fun to me--- I'm a hammer secondary for the same reason, I love the effort I put into landing my hits and when they hit, they HIT.
great video I enjoyed your criticism of the weapons whilst also respecting the players that use them regardless of the condition. but I personally felt that the music was a bit too loud, anyway keep up the great work.
I love the lance in this game. A trully underrated weapon, it has a lot of mobility and dps potencial with the charge. It's able to jump on its own so you don't need a ledge to mount. That shield is something else with the right set up you can tank anything velkana ice beams deviljoe breath blasts kirin lightning onlly atacks it cannot block are grabs or novas like Safi or behemoth. Counter lance and counter claw make this specially useful to punish very agresive monsters that use a lot of phisical atacks like Diablos or Tigrex or rajang. It has comparatibly low DPS but it has a lot of utility, with a provoking gem you can be a propper aggro tank keeping the monster's atencion on you while your teammates can bring the pain. That shield can absolutely take a beating.
I'm a main Lance, i always feel like fights are like chess games, i play other weapons too, learned them all, very fun, but Lance.. When i'm with it, you just get so much value from thinking forwards in a fight, there's alot of different tactics to use for each attack the monster does. The hardest part in the beggining was understanding that risk gives you reward so much. I never really think about the damage output on Lance, but the utilities i can stack up. Having a precise damage point, you can easily hit a tall monster in the head or tail from just sitting down, Offensive Guard teaches you to not keep the guard all the time, Guard Thrust let you position yourself safely, and from it you can either get more distance with Leaping Thrust or even KO the monster with Shield Attack (slugger ftw), if a player hits your counter you get a free Earplugs effect, if you Counter Claw you get Hyper Armor (Rocksteady Mantle), if you Dash Attack running and jump you can easily mount monsters, with ailments on weapons like Poison, Paralyzis, Blast or Sleep you can inflict so much status on them quickly, with Counter Claw you can punish the monster EVERYTIME it charges at you or attacks you, in multiplayer you can absolutelly erase a monster defense by grabbing all his parts and exposing all the parts to mini-crits (as you attack them grabbed, you weaken the part), to counter the huge loss in sharpness you just slap Teostra's set and negates any sharpness loss, because you grab a monster, weaken it's parts and get mini-crits from every hit, so Teostra's set can proc everytime. The more you fight a monster and know it's attacks, the more powerfull a Lance becomes, it's a dance, at first it looks like a slow and just poky weapon, but oh, it's so much more, it has so many uses, it's so usefull. Power Guard can hit ANY direction, so if a monster pass you while using it, you can just aim backwards to hit it's tail offscreen, with a massive attack, i break so many tails offscreen. It's soo deep, so awesome to use and learn. It's totally not about damage numbers on Lance, it's about dominating a fight by not just doing damage, but with utilities, it not only makes any kill easier to the Lancer, but in multiplayer just makes everyone enjoy the fight more, i have some people that love playing with me because of how much i can make a fight easier to them, i trully feel like a support/healer (with Wide-Range), i can just prepare the monster, weaken it, bully it to the ground and let everyone have more fun. Love the Lance, always will. Great video!
Lance is slow methodical? My dude lance is the most aggressive weapon in the game! You can literally keep attacking at all times and stick like glue to the monster. Having lower damage is balanced by the fact it doesnt ever need to stop attacking.
As a hunting horn main, I believe it’s great for solo hunts being about to buff and heal yourself while doing dmg is great. Especially in those situations where using a healing pot feels impossible. Also use the encores please 🙏😭
the safi raids pushed me to finally learn the weapon and im so glad i did. everything went so much better once i focused on team support. im looking to do another play through with someone new to series soon and i plan to do it all with the hunting horn to support them
as a HH main, the worst thing about the weapons is that everything takes too long, so on fast monsters it's a nightmare to find a window long enough to play a song, specially when the monster is enraged. i usually prefered blast element hh when possible and go for KO. I recently tried out hammer and loved it too, since i was all about KOs and dealing as much dmg as possible with triple sonic boom as HH anyways XD.
HH main here too. There's some monsters I just can't see myself doing without the HH. The songs are so good to boost yourself ! Ignore some monster mecanics ! Stun the monster by tooting in its face !!! What's not to love...
As a fellow hunting horn main, I also love playing solo with it. It is, in my opinion, the second most comfortable weapon to play with. Only outclassed by SnS for comfort. There is a horn for every monster and I believe there is a horn for every player. I say this because there is a song for just about every annoying thing in the game (negate stun, lower stamina costs, heals, defense boosts, wind negation) and there is a fairly good variety of horns with different song lists. So one just have to find the horn with the songs that you want to play with.
It's a shame they slowed down the HH and reduced its motion values at the same time because I think this is the most fun HH in the series next to GU. The Rise rework is so infuriating to me because I used to love the HH so much, now it hardly feels like the same weapon. On the other hand, I feel lance is stronger than most give it credit for, it isn't just a full defensive weapon. Yes defense is something it does well, and the damage seems low, but the truth is it is a weapon that rewards reactions and reads a lot. With lance, you need to really take advantage of the incredible mobility it touts to really get the most out of it. Lance can strike, advance, and guard almost all the time and sticking to the monster means sustained dps, but you gotta learn how to maneuver through the attacks. The best lancers will essentially be stuck to the monster's hip, and are immovable. Just please be considerate and don't slap them from behind. This is a fast paced weapon if you play it well.
As an SnS support main, I've found that just being able to consistently access your items even while your weapon is drawn is an underrated quality of life improvement. It means that you need less time to react to healing to someone, and those scant fractions of a second necessary to save someone from getting carted can matter a lot, especially in high difficulty monsters like Alatreon or Fatalis (and also lets be real, needing randoms to fight those guys means a support is almost mandatory since most randoms are wildly unreliable in a fight, and it only takes one person with zero survival instincts to mess up the quest for the rest of the party).
Dude 100% a well timed flash bug had saved my party more ways then non, and with it being a lighter weapon you can dance around the monster while the other players do their best!!
Its not a QoL improvement, item use with SnS has been around since day one. Edit: Almost day one, it was changed in MH2, so has been around since the second entry in the series, way back in 2006 😅. I'm pretty sure they implemented the change in monster hunter one (which was monster hunter Freedom) for the psp. Hence my original thoughts of it being since day one.
10:42 The hunting horn even in Solo is really good. Is damages actually pretty comparable to a hammer but you also get to buff your palacos and trailer raiders and it's one of the few weapons where you will actually be able to keep them with you for most of the hunt.( I'm in grade sword but I also used a hunting horn to beat most of my second playthrough of world and iceborn)
I guess "veteran" status is either subjective or doesn't require as much experience as I thought. Bro missed like half the tech of most of the weapons that would easily change their tier rankings.
Charge blade is absolutely s tier if you start with it and can master it by midgame, it's the perfect blend of massive damage, elemental output, and great defense
HH main here, but thats beside the point. i honestly woulda bumped LS into S tier for solo play simply because the monster is targeting you 90% of the time and makes it easier to do counters to build up your spirit gauge quicker. maybe also bump CB into A tier, the weapon *is* really difficult to properly use, but if you do use it properly you can deal MASSIVE amounts of damage
As a Glaive main since release, I'll have to say it's at the top of A tier or bottom S. Once mastered you can take on any monsters in the game, including soloing Behemoth when he released (only weapon I could drop him with). Give it a shot, it's awesome!
As a person who mains Insect Glaive,my weapon is very easy to make itself useful. However,most people would be shocked with how many secret abilities it has. For instance you can feed slinger ammo to the kinsect to supercharge the kinsect buffing you in the process. Furthermore the supercharge lets you collect two buffs at once. Honestly in a great amount of situations,the Glaive has better support for yourself then even the hunting horn which is limited due to having to choose a weapon for that horn’s buffs,meanwhile Glaive have access to possibly heal dust,heal power,movement speed buff,defense buff,supercharge buff,ultimate buff(all buffs without supercharge.) and ultra buff(all buffs). As a skilled Glaive,I die less thanks to ultra buff and the insane self healing capabilities,but also evading is really easy for this weapon. Is this making it S tier,idk,but I solo some of the most difficult bosses in the game with this weapon,like Blackveil Vaal Hazak,and I am faint less with fights like Furious Rajang and Raging Brachy, so I might try solo them also. I think at least A tier for solo and co-op,though some others have put this at S tier. Additionally,I think longsword gets to much hate especially since there is a decoration in the game that disables friendly knock back.
the sticky ammo safi build from tds on the LBG is amazing, it's super easy to hunt bc you're at very safe distances and the dmg output is actually insane. The prep for the builds is the thing which makes it super difficult to get into the build because you need a ton of blastnuts and you run out of ammo very quickly if you don't prepare well for the hunt. The Nagacuga essence is vital to the build and the Safi weapon is the acutal best one for the LBG.
I have the shara ishvalda HBG for my Stick 3 build. You just focus on using Level 3s. Get the gear to increase the max artillery levels + Slugger and go nuts. You can bring plenty of ammo for it to keep a monster down over a period of time (Remember you make 2 Lvl 3s per craft, so craft when you're down to 1 so you don't waste mats by essentially losing one additional bullet due to ammo caps). You can also restock in the tent if you need more (I farmed a LOT of Blastnuts over the course of playing so I always got the stock XD). I prefer the HBG for sticky builds because you can use the Power Barrel to FURTHER increase the damage/KO power of the stickies on TOP of the Impact Mantle. Just absolutely silly when even in a 4 man I can with regularity KO a monster up to 6 times without assistance from a blunt weapon user. Plus, the Shara gun is an auto reload for LVL3 and has little recoil with a mod so you can just pump Level 3's pretty swiftly without much care. And I haven't even tried to fine tune the set to squeak Spare Ammo yet. XD
i like the list, i wish you would have shown off a few more of the weapon’s unique attacks, thinking of new players coming across this video not knowing about the dual blades’ aerial spinning attacks for example. nice video though man
I would actually say the lance is one of the most aggressive weapons for experienced players. The draw of the lance is that when played properly it never has to stop attacking. It's methodical, yes, but slower paced it is not. The slow paced and methodical weapon of the lot is probably the greatsword. Also think you are underrating bow a bit (though I am a bow main, so take it with a grain of salt). The damage of the weapon is in no way lacking, even if you are too lazy to bother with coatings most of the time like me, because bow's dps is actually quite good and moreover it is excellent at keeping that dps up. It's main issue is that you need a number of specific skills to make it effective, so in the early stages of the game its pretty lackluster, but once you clear that it's a monster shredder. Great for solo and arguably even better for co-op, since it brings utility through status coatings, high ranged dps you can keep up even if the monster is running all over the place, and doesn't get in the way of other hunters. Also I think you are underrating sword and shield in co-op. Hunting Horn is great and all, but for me support SnS is the one true king of co-op. I had barely touched the SnS until late game iceborne, when I decided to try out a free meal secret tank build for it, and yet despite my complete inexperience with the weapon that set has proved to be the absolute goat for saving SoS hunts. There is nothing quite so effective for saving a struggling party as unlimited healing you can pump out as soon as someone gets hit. Even if your own dps tends to be lackluster (though even then, I've often walked away from these hunts still doing around the same damage as the rest of the party), keeping everyone healthy means they can better output their own dps, not to mention the obvious complete avoidance of carting (so long as nobody gets oneshot anyways).
I'd say Dual blades are harder to use than most people think, I'd say they are an intermediate maybe even expert type weapon. Because if you are kinda new, you barely get damage out of them and get killed instantly. YOU REALLY need to know your enemy to utilize them perfect
Dual blades are also the best elemental weapons. Dual ice blades are the best Teostra/Lunastra killers. They won't even be able to do the supernova if you constantly overload them.
that's true, but it's also true that you need to know your enemy to utilize EVERY weapon. Since, every weapon has a high ceiling but LS has the lowest floor
You really gonna complain about the longsword tripping people, but not even take a moment to mention the switchaxe's space program? I've been violently ejected in the middle of fights more often from switchaxes than I've ever been flinched by longswords. Try to go for an attack on a down monster's head? Better hope there isn't a switchaxe behind you, because that upward swing is the only thing they care about.
As a casual I find gunlance to be my favorite. The first one I tried was insect glaive but found it tedious with the bug thing and the switch axe and hammer are the only other weapons I'm really familiar with but ultimately gunlance is my go to. Good damage and tanky defense. Can't hate it. The only weapons I've never bother with really would be all the ranged stuff, the great sword and lance.
Listen close, I teach you to use CB in two minutes. 1) First, charge your phials. Light attacks when the monster can move around, charge attacks (O/B) when the monster is down. Time your charge attacks right or else you waste time. Once the phials are red (or yellow if you are coward), R2(RT) + O(B) to charge phials. Leave these phials for later, don't use. Repeat process until you have full set of charged phials and your sword glows red. You now have fully charged Charge Blade. Yay. Congratulations. 2) From here, hit buttons as so: O + Triangle x3, on third click, hunter will start to put sword and shield into axe mode, once the sword is inserted in shield, click R2. This transfers charged phials into the shield increasing damage output of axe mode. Now, you have no phials and your sword will be red. Charge phials, and when charged hold triangle. Now the sword will be charged too and you will deal stun damage with sword swings. Continue with playstyle in paragraph 1 until monster is down. Now we have fun. 3) Triangle + R2 to switch to axe mode. Spam O(B) button on monster's skull to deal axe attacks with stun damage. If followed instructions above, on your second (or third if you play wrong) attack, hunter will slam axe into the skull and cause lots of stun damage with a phial discharge. Rinse, and repeat process from 1. There are shortcuts all throughout here, as well as one more mode we like to call saw axe mode, but those are intricacies for Iceborne or would require more explanation.
Nice to see HH mains getting some love. I would add that with a selfish build HH can be very effective solo too. The deviljo horn for example absolutely wrecks face
As a long sword main…I can respect this; and I do apologize for my poor placement. This was my first MH game and I love it! To anyone thinking about picking it back up or starting your first run, I highly recommend you do so. It’s still an absolute blast to play.
New HH main here, base game soloing is great if you don't mind missing tails. Lance main too, super fun but takes a while. First main was cb and my hh gets pretty close or beats my old times. Ive been calling it the doot doot bonk. Dont remember where I got it from
I think the HH got a bad rap in base world, but Iceborne turned HH up a lot. Not a lot of people bothered to notice though. It's a shame because a lot of people are missing out on a great weapon. But fear not, Capcom dumbed down the greatness of Iceborne HH in Rise to make it just another hammer.
@@zipprime6956 I deleted my old comment because I was talking bad about it, but there are new HH mains that shouldn't be shamed. It just plays very different. In MHW:I your horn had several melodies, things to think about for extending melody time. They lowered the skill floor, but I'm sure the skill ceiling is still similar. I just wish it played the old more methodical approach.
honestly this video is very nice. being an IG main im of course going to say its an S tier weapon just because of the mobility that it gives you (i also prefer being able to move around a lot since i dont really wanna stay and calculate where the monster has to be in order to charge the weapon so i can get the most damage out of it) . im also a very casual player and dont nitpick my build, i just go with whatever sounds good for what monster im gonna hunt and thats it. somehow those games always calm me (EXCEPT FOR KUSHALA DAORA WHICH I DESPISE FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART IN EVERY GAME I HUNTED IT) cuz i usually just sit back and hunt monsters with a cigarette in my hand and listening to a podcast and get 5 to 15 min runs on most of the monsters i hunt. idk why im ranting this much but its 4 am where i live and those games give me a feeling no other game does and its really nice to see the different opinions on every weapon in the comments. makes me want to try some again and do some big hunts with them
I only started using Greatsword recently because Sunbreak's moveset eased me into it, but when i hopped back into World and started using it, then every puzzle piece fell into the place. It's such a great weapon.
S for sure.. SAED rocks, but the flexibility to charge your sword to ignore bounces, fury axe mode for when SAED isn't suitable.. Insane blocking and guard points, constant pressure in sword mode, KO and severing. Amazing weapon.
I know individual play style will determine a weapon’s effectiveness but I feel hammer is “easier” to use solo because the monster will be attacking you so you have less gap to close and a head always in UNGA BUNGA range!
I hammer main, while playing HH and HBG. I usually have wide range 5, with mushroommancer, and hunters *love* me. Combine with free eat secret and you have 10 max potions you can turn into over 50! I grab two stacks of the free potions and i have prevented MANY carts. As a support player, HGB is an S tier weapon because it can do a bit of everything. It can heal, it can paralyze, it can poison, it can stun, it can wake up, it can DPS, it can recovery, it can BUFF, AND as you said it can survive with guard+. People sleep on HGB because you have to set up the ammo lists and radial commands to become all powerful.
I am a new play, and this is SO helpful for a solo player! I've now mastered the Great Sword, and I do not regret it one bit. Thank you again Sir for the detajled video
some of my absolute favourite weapons are SNS and lance, i dont think lance is slow at all, you ca be quite mobile chaining guard dashes and play extreamly agressive with all the counter options you have also using the clutch counter on lance makes it so much funa and in my opinion the best iteration of lance in any monster hunter games
I’d rank the Lance at least a tier for multiplayer because beyond just taking aggro, they also have the easiest access to wounding parts with the clutch guard and free slinger bursts that KO monsters pretty easily or stack elderseal with dragon pods
I feel like this list is made in a way that it would scare people away from certain weapons. Some of the fastest speed runs are done with Gunlance and heavybow gun. But like he said in the end choose what you want. As long as you contribute and don't faint, ending a hunt, choose what will find fun.
I’m a lancer, and have always been from MH1….was a favourite for tail locking rathalos for all that rathalos plate farming. Counter/evade lancing and counter clutching isn’t as bad as most people think
HBG was really difficult to me, but my brother help me with the ammo options, i am at the end game, and i can say its super fun to have shield and KO at the same time, i prefer hunts with more player so i can hit the monster with sticky ammo 3 and if the monster comes for me i just put up the shield At the end of must hunts i get KO star or something like that, Not every time i can use HBG, like against the Furious Rajang, but i use GS too SaS was not my first weapon but i have respect for it because it help me clean Diablos back in the day Nice video! I really like it!
I love dual blades and I actually run it as a support build in multiplayer/SOS. I have a fast sheath, an easy and quick combo for weakening the monster, and can dodge and roll out easier than other weapons. With only friendship + sometimes gobbler, I'm able to just constantly heal and support my teammates with no issues. The only downside is that this means I can't do all the fancy big damages all the time. Still, with that mobility, I'm able to grab Behemoth and Safi's attention half of the time.
I'm kind of disappointed SnS was placed at C tier 😔 and I'm surprised no one is talking about it. I'm far from a master of it but I've played for around 10+ hours and I can *feel* how much I can improve. It also has a very high skill ceiling from what I've heard, and what I've felt, so a master of it would surely be A tier or maybe even S tier.
That was actually the one mistake I made with this video. I'm not sure what i was thinking at the time but it deserves A tier for sure. It's super good
HH used to be 2% before I moved to Sunbreak, so I think that says how many people use it XD Really fun tho, I highly recommend it just for messing around and getting a few buffs. 😄👍👍
The most hilarious thing is that LS while being most popular is among the hardest weapons to master and SnS while being often described as "support" weapon - is literally pocket greatsword god slayer beast machine that outputs broken dps during perfect rush😂
Lance is slow for beginners of the weapon. You can actually jump with you charge attack to mount. There is also the master combo I call the Dance of Death. In every MH I have shown those who thought it slow how much faster it is. Unlike most weapons it never has down time on attacking for those who master it. The added counter hit makes it even more devastating in the hands of skilled hunters. Lance has always been God tier.
Hbg is S- tier FG for multiplayer you can stun better than a hammer and have support amo, like patalyzis, sleep, demon, heal etc.. And its the best dps to benefit getting buffs from other player it self.
Charge blade is definitely S tier in my opinion. Monster hunter world was the first monster hunter game i played. Started with the bow had a lot of fun with it, learned longsword which was also awesome, hammer also. But once i learned charge blade, that thing can solo anything, great damage and defence, ok mobility once you learn it.
"Why don't i see people block with this thing?" Cuz you can roll, tackle or just sheath it and move instead, which are all better options for the vast majority of things a monster will throw at you. You only really block as a panic button if the monster is about to hit you with a combo that's too fast to dodge or dive.
Very nice video buddy. I tried almost all weapons, except charge blade & sword and shield & longsword. A bit suspicious as a main bow guy, but I literally started playing other weapons because with bow (most hunts) were really easy. Bow damage is normally always number 1 on multiplayer quests by far. But I admit other weapons are more fun
Great video, excellent breakdown of the weapon mechanics and playstyles they work well with. I played MHW back when it first came out but stopped before Iceborne came around for reasons and recently grabbed iceborne on a sale and my son saw me playing and wanted to join. We watched your video to help him get a sense of what he wanted to start with. he picked Great sword same as I did first time i played. i told him its good but just now you gonna be not super fast more like fast walking, not running, he said 'I want the thing to die' lol thanks bubba
putting IG as a mounting monster is just wrong. It deals something like 1/3 or less of the mounting damage and near anything else will do better if there's a ledge or slope nearby. Especially GS with charged areal attacks. SnS also outperforms it anywhere for mounts as well. IG also does best DPS on the ground, meaning you're sacrificing a lot of damage to try and mount badly
Great list but you did multiplayer lance so dirty. Never trips your allies, tends to draw monster aggro and doesn't move so the monster stays "mostly" in the same space, mounts almost as good if not better than the insect glaive, able to break parts most other weapons just can't reach... Please just buff my baby Capcom :(
sns has the best mount in the game and it builds up a crapton of stun with it(you can delay the final knockdown letting you spam shieldbashes in it's face). it also can mount from the ground like insect glaive without any ledges. If you run paralysis and flash bombs you can just deny monsters from leaving the area before they go to sleep to make the final sleep showdown go more smoothly. Also perfect rush if hammer gets an S for stuns Sword and shield gets an s for absolutely disabling the monster from doing anything making the monster SSUCk at existing.
Yeah sns at c tier is criminal. It’s over powered when you have perfect rush available and you utilise stuns/mounts well. It’s safe and deals as much damage as a great sword how is it c tier? Genuinely only makes sense if we are speaking of people picking up these weapons as beginners with no skill in the weapon.
A live and die by the Bowgun kinda guy, HBG having become my preferred over the years (Used to be mainly LBG in my early days with a high emphasis on maximising elemental damage output + status). However, in World especially, HBG just puts in so much work solo and in group. I'm eager to really explore my options once I finish breaking through MR99+ though, but the three sets I have presaved are really great coverage options for different monsters that I know I struggle with or can be more brave against. (A Peak Performance/Agitator/Max regen Shield gun set for really wild monsters I struggle to kite proper and rather just stay in their face and shotgun them to death. A full powered shotgun set with group support in wide range/speed eating/free meal to pump out mad damage but also rolley polley away to heal up the group and my balls out KO Sticky 3 set that refuses to let a monster stand XD)
I begin playing monster hunter 2days ago, my first weapon was this HBG, it look more realistic to finish a godzilla with a gun that with a sword, and I like the way I can use different ammos, but I dont lnow nothing about it, for example, the iron have a minigun as second form, but the Bone have a sniper that dont look so good against monsters, you have some tips?
@@Anonymus553 In regards to the special ammo type of the heavy bowguns, which of the two you use is preference but can also be monster dependant. The Wyvernhart (The gattling gun mode) can rack up some serious damage and is likely considered the better of the two special shot types just to how much burst damage it allows but requires you to get up pretty close to make the most out of it, thus putting you in greater danger yourself. The Wyvernsnipe has become a favorite of mine but it's a bit harder to use. This shot is actually very good on monsters that are long. You want to shoot the monster straight on, basically from face to tail or vice versa. You get 'more hits' the longer the monster is and then the hits all explode. What makes this shot type VERY strong is the explosions will deal high damage because they ignore the monster's resistances like all explosives do, so you can really do a lot of damage with this shot if you're taking advantage of it to the fullest and it can be fired from safer distances than the gattling mode. I'd say experiment with both types of shots because some monsters you can do insane damage against with the sniper shots where the gattling mode just plinks off the monster and won't do nearly as much. But in other scenarios, for smaller monsters or ones with really big weak zones to projectile damage the gattling mode can rack up some big burst damage.
@@TaskMaster5 i can change between minigun and sniper mid fight? If the question is stupid…. I really entered in MH franchise just 3 days ago….. my last hunt was a bug fish
@@Anonymus553 s'all good! You can't switch between sniper or machine gun mode, which mode a heavy gun has is based entirely on if it's built off the iron or bone weapon trees. You'll want to have at least a few different guns that will help you tackle different monsters more effectively based on what ammo types they can use as well as their special shot type (snipe or heart).
@@TaskMaster5 sniper is a single very powerful shot while heart is many medium damage shots, correct? And how I recharge the sniper and heart? It dont look be the same as the normal mode
Hey thanks man! It's hard to strike the balance of info dumping while retaining personality. Happy to know it struck you in a good way haha. Thanks for your feedback!
i really dont know understand why people say the Charge blade is the most complex weapon when its actually really simple and probably the top 3 of most versatile while putting out a lot of power, it actually became more fluid in world, playing it in the old games though its definitely super complicated
Charge blade pros is that a lot of the attack moves to charge the weapon up and use the phials block and parry majority of attacks thrown your way, once you charge up the red shield you can do a massive attack that drains all your phials. Cons is to get most out of the weapon you need to keep constantly charging up the weapon and need to know where the monster is going to go in order to target it with the the slower more powerful charge attacks.
Nice, you hepled a lot, i started monster hunter whit the gun lance but after i had to drop the game, do you think i should return to play this game and maybe change the weapon being a beginer and a solo player?
I think Gunlance is beginner friendly! Some attacks on it are a bit slow though. So if you do come back I suggest using Gunlance if you like it but also trying out just 1 more weapon like Sword and Shield and Longsword as they have better mobility and a vastly different playstyle while also being very beginner friendly weapons. I personally love Gunlance but dont bring it to every fight.
Returning player after a couple of years (and due to Winter Steam sale, PC instead of PS4, fresh start, relearn everything) so this list a fun refresher. I was a CB/ Glaive main depending on what I felt like doing and a HH when I was being support (I tend to like the more complicated classes/weapons in games).
Idk if it was your own clips but I noticed some of the ones that I use on the regular, you were using completely wrong. Especially hammer xD. But for the most part I really like this video, great job. Although I do think there was a lot of personal feelings involved in the decision making process but I don't mind it too much since as I said before I quite like this video. Great job 🥳
These were indeed my own clips. I probably just took some of the worst parts on accident or maybe I'm just bad 😂 I appreciate your kind words though! Tierlists should never be taken to heart regardless. Literally everything is great in MHW haha.
The True Fatalis Gunlance is only the strongest for Slap-lancing. For Shell-lancing you want one of the Long Shell 6 options (the weapon doesn't matter much in this case, but Vaal is pretty good).
Thanks for this buddy I just started recently and started and I'm really enjoying the charge blade bit this video made me want to give some other weapons a try
I've played MH games for almost 15 years now and I genuinely wish I could learn how to HH properly. I've never been able to get the combos down. Mad respect to those 1%, really wish I saw more of you
Insect glaive is goated especially with the Kinsect dust clouds you can deal status effects and heal. I personally find it the most fun to play because I like to fly around.
I played the whole game through with glaive only, all content done with the glaive, i love it, drawback its the only weapon i know how to play (aside from horn which i also enjoy and play a bit every now and then) the drawback is I don't know how to play any other weapons and im looking to expand my horizons. xdd
Just started playing like a week ago and I've gone through a roller coaster of emotions learning the charge blade. I only thing that madness me keep using it is that every time I figure out somthing new about it, I get excited.
HH solo is B, pretty versatile, everything is doable and you can use specific horn to counter specific monsters which is good, and makes some monsters just a walk in the park (night shade paolumu with negate ailments for example) Dmg is pretty good overall if you don't mind hunts around 25-15 mins, spin is pretty dang strong. the only monsters I truly struggled where Ala and Fatty. Mayb AT velk but I had good preparation for that one. Having certain buffs for certain monsters makes them pretty comfy, in general I felt this iteration pretty comfy. in endgame having busted horns is pretty easy (raging brachy for example is an AMAZING HORN, it's extremely good. I encourage everyone to do a viper tobi kadachi with negate all ailments. Chef's kiss) Furious rajang horn. Velk horn, I'm not into safi, so I did everything in the game without safi stuff (a personal tantrum you could say) neither with the boosts of affinity, decos,etc,etc. And I found myself pretty comfortable in the entirety of my run except with alatreon (that monster was my wall). (I finished the game like a week ago, hunted every monster solo pending only fatty). update, I did fatty solo few days ago
Alatreon wasn't too horrible once you got his moves down. However, when fatty came out, I couldn't play for a while. So when I did play, I'd gotte way rusty and couldn't beat it. 😢
@@erivida64 its doable, the thing with ala and fatty is that they make you play Monster Hunter in a way that you got to respect them, keep grinding him once you get the optimal strat he’s doable and the feeling of beating him is amazing the first time coop and first time solo, to me is the best siege in mh period, my big advice is use ghillie mantle and heavy artillery, make the most of each opportunity given and focus the head (i usually take dmg so whenever he does this attack that sweeps with his fire breath i like to use the clutch claw to keep the dmg on the head + tenderize), you can bring him down to the floor multiple ways like the ghillie heavy artillery opening, if you prioritize learning how to get those situations + chipping dmg in certain moves. I encourage everyone to do that fight is just amazing and use powders,pills and demondrugs. U can do it! (Also one good opening is having ur palico with a para weapon usualli you can get one consistently)
@@t0q14s9 focus on the laser and let him move, tremor resistance or timing your rolls can make you chip your fst attacks, it’s more a patience test than a fight, personally I enjoy furious a lot more, regular rajang opening windows are weird
As a Bow, Dual Blades, Longsword, Charge Blade, Bowgun, and Insect Glaive main (In World. I don't have as much variety in other games lol) I would consider bow an S rank in solo play because of how mobile it is. It makes it very safe and easy to hit the best weakzones of most monsters while still being able to quickly get out of the way of hits/dodge through them (very very easy with a level or two of evasion)
Honestly started really having fun in MHW when I switched to CB. I wasn’t a huge fan of the simplicity of the other weapons. But when Im wacking a monster with a CB when SAED comes through it’s the best feeling ever. Will agree the skill ceiling is high. Took me watching videos about it to really learn and understand its capabilities. But fun weapon if you guys are trying to dive into the multi-tool weapons
IQ main here. I’ve wanted to learn another weapon and currently learning the long sword just because I’ve never used it until World/Rise just because I wanted to try something new. I used CB and SA in previous titles and they’re pretty fun although I’d be lying if I said I can use them well. IQ makes it so much fun and helps keep up with all the flying Wyverns as it feels like you can truly battle air targets. As for ground targets, you can basically fly around them and makes it hard for them to hit you
HBG is an obvious S tier and it is the strongest weapon in the game. Light bowgun is also extremely efficient and effective hence why it’s always used for farming, I think it deserved to go higher on the list. Bow is a little harder to use but can be very good as well. I’m a big fan of greatsword and longsword. Longsword isn’t the strongest, it trades some damage for its unrivaled versatility, long reach and defensive counters, but i’m able to get really solid clear times nonetheless because you have near constant damage uptime due to its counters. The greatsword has consistently been my highest damage dealing weapon (except for HBG) and has enabled me to get my best speedrun times on certain monsters like Alatreon. Switch axe, charge blade, dual blades and SnS are all really solid weapons. I would agree with most of your other placements. I kinda gauged weapon performance on how well it works against Alatreon and all of those worked well for me, Gunlance is kind of underrated too
As a member of the Swax and HBG main crowd, I support this message. We arrive, we brrrt damage to the Monster's face, we evade, then brrrt more damage. Also, yes, some HBG's can use recover ammo. Recover is second to just revving up for dps though sadly. B-tier is a win for coop if you ask me.
Yeah, honestly I think every weapon is fantastic. They all just do different things but some folks prefer DAMAGE ONLY and that's fine too. I wish i did see more players going for recovery ammo. It is kinda hard to hit your teammates with them when they're flying all over the place tho. And going over this list made me want to try SA more
@@TeraRyza Switch axe is a lot of fun and being able to get the skill slots to Zero Sum off the ground to the monster's face over and over before your sword mode cooldown is chaotic fun. Swax is perfect for being super aggressive. For HBG I always carry recover ammo but like you said, actually landing hits on your teammates is rough. When it can be managed though it feels good to be even minor support in between belt-fed wyverheart dopamine hits.
Great video btw. I'm happy to be a sub and see your channel grow. Monster Hunter is my jam
@Phimic Alright you've sold me on the SA. I need to give it some more love. Also "dopamine hits" is like the perfect way to describe Wyvernheart 😂😂
@Phimic Thank you very much man. I'm kinda hard on myself by default unfortunately and think i can do so many things better, but then i get comments from viewers like you here and there and well it helps to reassure me that I'm doing fine and still growing. So again, thank you for your kind words as they mean more than you know 😄
i mainly used insect glaive on my first time going trough MHW. I feel like its worth mentioning too that getting all 3 buffs on the glaive gives a much better buff while also modifying the move set a bit. Getting a monster down with all 3 buffs up is extremely satisfying since the move set chains together very well essentially making it one long combo.
Just need the red buff to get the enhanced moveset. Otherwise yeah, getting all the buffs gives you an improved buff that can be enhanced with flinch free, but red buff is always the main priority as without it you'll deal significantly less damage.
@@F3N01flinch free enhance the « non visible » ear plugs, wind res and the other one that comes from the orange buff
@@F3N01 red buff is essential for damage and white buff is essential for movement, these two buffs are not optional.
I play both IG and SWAX and I gotta disagree with the video. IG is a lot easier than Swax, and a lot more forgiving. From the gameplay shown in the video you could see the creator doesn't play IG and doesn't know much about it. As the others already said in the replies: get red buff and your moveset changes, so much so that you gain a true flow to your attacks. Getting the tripple buff is usually the first thing I try in any hunt, as the benefits make the hunt just that much easier, and I generally try to keep 100% uptime.
Compared to Swax, which was rated higher here in this tier list, IG is a lot easier. Your aerial jumps evade a lot of monster attacks, Descending Thrust (R2 from air) is one of your heaviest hitters. The ground combos push some series dps, the weapon reacts fast and by its nature avoids many monster attacks, whereas Swax seems simpler in mechanics, but is a lot more difficult to play well as you will end up getting hit a lot, as it takes time getting used to limited movespeeds and side hop dodges in axe form. I help a lot of SOS flares and I see far more Swax carts than IG carts
As a member of the bonking club, I recommend everyone to give the hammers a chance, ledge hopping and mid air yo-yo attacks are so much fun
finally found my people among these crowd. head bonkers assemble!
Cracking skulls and spinning to win. So glad I gave it a chance.
so true, best air attacks in the game, I always use that jewel airborne
team bonk unga bunga
I love the hammer :D
Charge blade has an awkward learning curve but was well worth learning with large damage potential, access to both blunt and slashing damage and my favorite part being guard points being parts of your attacks are able to automatically guard, giving you access to a frame 1 guard.
A frame 1 unsheath guard that instantly allows you to use your strongest attack.
@@jasonkeith2832 Charge Blade my beloved.
@@CanadianAdimreal
been playing it since GU and absolutely love it, totally worth the time learning especially if you are already familiar with sns and countering with guards.
Charge blade is a lot of fun but it definitely has too much going on. I just feel distracted from the hunt when I use it.
people don't usually block with GS because the shoulder charge can eat an attack and let you reposition so you can immediately go back to your tcs combo
That's true shoulders I-frames are like crazy broken if you're good at using it right haha
As a great sword main I would still on occasion insta block a roar or something on wake up I knew I wouldnt be able to avoid otherwise. Something like a 1% of the time usage for most people im assuming.
Blocking with GS reduces sharpness by a chunk.
@@_Colossus I think that's my main usage too honestly
@@_Colossus for me it's an I've been caught out situation and unless I block I will probably die thing
One notable thing about lances and gunlances is that their melee attacks have the ability to take the hit zone value of whichever damage type is better between cutting and impact damage. So you’re always dealing the best possible damage consistently against any body part on the monster. Gunlance bolsters this further by using shelling to ignore hit zone calculations altogether.
Yes this. Exactly why Shelling is useful is certain situations. Well said!
@@TeraRyza Yeah. I started out 5th gen MH as a Gunlance and went to Lance on Rise/Sunbreak. I really like lance's more agile moveset that doesn't really require resources to sink into it like munitions or wirebugs. But Gunlance is still a very liked weapon for me still.
@@TeraRyzayou can also do some pretty easy mounts with Lance.
The mobility is what gets me about the lance. It is one of the fastest weapons in the game both in movement and attack speed with the ability to switch movement and defense with the snap of the fingers.
Wow, I knew the Lance was good, but I never thought to look into the damage calculations because I'm a filthy casual, but this has really helped me understand more about my favorite weapon thanks
It's almost magical how fucking hard it is to learn to use the charge blade, and when you finally learn you see it like a bunch of simple mechanics
Yes that's so true hard to learn easy to master
My experience with the weapons was entirely the opposite. World was my first MH game, and I picked it up on release for PC. I at least knew some about the game because I had friends who were fans of the series, and a streamer I watched played it on console. So I was aware ahead of time that the charge blade was "one of the hardest weapons to learn" so I didn't try using it at all while learning the game. Instead I ended up settling mostly on IG and a little HBG, because a shotgun sounded fun. This was even before I was aware of the Glutton meta.
I ended up more or less getting carried through the ATKT Sieges by my friends, really only contributing to mantle breaking with a highly specific HBG build. After like my 3rd "kill" on her I ended up getting the super meta Ice CB at the time, my friend was really jealous because she'd been trying to farm that item for a week. So I put together a build for the CB since I had a pinnacle weapon, and set out learning the weapon. I started out by hunting a Tempered Teostra, quite frankly a fight I honestly sucked at at the time. It went about as hilariously terrible as you'd expect, but I felt like the weapon kinda clicked with me early. So I went about doing more Temp Teo fights. It took me about 3 hunts before I managed to figure out how to *actually* set up, and time SAED hits, and how to balance the playstyles. Mind you I had *no idea* how things like guard points worked, but I felt like the charge blade wasn't much harder to learn than my main weapon, the IG.
@@Deadsnake989 This is a old comment yet its so funny to see it bc I main IG and love it so much, but im trying to branch out my dmg possibilities so I'm Trying SA and CB. I do lots on siege with insect glaive but still trying these 2 now. Both SA and CB feels good but I think its because I Learned/mastered IG and I think that kinda helps with the mechanical part.
@@DGoldys I've been getting back into MHW as a new friend wants to give it a try. Been a ton of fun helping him get into it. We have another friend who's a veteran like me running around. The new friend is going Greatsword, other veteran is hunting horn, so I'm trying Swaxe for the first time. Been a bunch of hilarity.
@@Deadsnake989 SA has been so much fun, w/ HH and GS... I can only imagine hahahah! Good luck to you my friend!
Ive had over 15000 hunts done with the lance and although i play all other weapons in the game ive come to a conclusion that i enjoy this weapon the best. It is a methodical weapon in the way you have to learn a monster's patterns and movesets to be able to stay on them at all times. The lance is a fairly aggressive playstyle once you master the fundamentals of pance play being when to side step, hop back, counter or go into your power guard. All these things together make the lance q highly aggressive and underrated weapon that can do some outright dangerous things
Absolutely. Lance is hands down my favorite. Sword and Shield is probably my second.
15,000? did I read that right? wouldn't that take an impossibly long time?
Its possible if hes playing all lance since first monster hunter
And the clutch claw counter is fun as hell, especially against Glavenus’s tail spin.
@@ToxicallyMasculinelol so I have been playing the monster hunter series since Monster Hunter on the Playstation 2 and average about 2k + hours on each save I have and have mostly played lance throughout the years. Currently I still play Iceborne and have continued to play the lance. 15000 hunts is not something unattainable and while hard to do yes the love for this franchise keeps me coming back and genuinely I never get bored. I play all the weapons that one just to me, I've found that it teaches you the fundamentals of a Monster's moveset because if you don't maneuver yourself correctly you have virtually zero damage output; I feel everyone should play this weapon as it will make you better in other areas of the game
The nice thing about the swax is that the axe mode can uppercut and launch ally’s in the air to mount monsters. Pain to set up, but satisfying when it works lmao.
And they need to be ready for it! 😂
This also works with the hammers charge attack, iirc!
Just did that to someone with my charge blade😂
All that work to mimic a fraction of the power of SNS
Should sns be played more?
Shoutout to my fellow 1%'ers
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@@markhidalgo5712I remember running an event with AT ruiner nerg, and seeing three other HH user join. We had so much fun bullying nerg 😂😂 his roar did nothing to us we bashed right through roars.
Intermediate to high level lance is from my experience very aggressive precisely because of the defensive options that it has. Basically because it has the best blocking ability, it is able to stick to the monster for a long time and keep on poking
I definitely agree! Best Offense is a great defense, and vice versa. 🛡
I play lance and its so freaking fun just going sicko mode on the monster and perfect guarding every single move with the counter and doing nuts damage you feel like ur unstoppable
Can't forget to mention that its one of the best weapons out there for cutting off tails! Especially ones up high on the bigger monsters. Don't feel like its commonly known among the playerbase.
Completely agree. I've got 2000 hours of almost lance only on mhw and have used it since mf1.
Really disappointed that it still gets labeled as "slow and defensive" like it did in this video.
It's non-stop aggression with pokes and counters. Mhw added the ability to block from lance charge which made it even more nuts as your ability to stick close became a whole lot less riskier!
And everyone forgets it can mount monsters without needing terrain since the same game insect glaive was introduced.
For pure damage then the Fatalis is the top hunting horn, however I'd say the Safi'Jiva horns are better overall as you get to customise what sort of song load-out you bring, as well as covering damage and inflicting statuses while not sacrificing too much damage overall.
agreed. support weapons are about options and adaptability not damage. Personally, i don't think he should count any of the Fatalis weapons since they are meant to be THE endgame weapon after beating everything.
The happiest I've ever seen an SOS group be is when I joined a Blackveil Vaal Hazak hunt, noticed none of them had Effluvia resistance, then switched to a Safi All Ailments Negated horn.
The SnS Wide-Range guy in that party said he'd forever use a HH on Vaal afterward. Not constantly having to pop Nullberries + pots for his friends was a massive QOL increase.
Also savage devijo HH
Hunting horn is great fighting against kushala or brute tigrex because negate wind pressure
Greetings young hunter @TeraRyza. From a Monster Hunter 1 player to another we've both witnessed the progress of the game so far and although you've addressed all weapons and their respective tier spot we could both agree that it was a very holistic approach and some new comers might be missing a few key-factors that will make their gameplay a whole lot more fun. Here are my inputs for new hunters:
1. Great Sword: One of the highest on-hit damage weapons in the game at the cost of mobility, however playing with Velkana gear and Critical Draw, any hunter will have a lot of fun playing the hit and run game. The impact of each draw will be extremely satisfying, with high numbers on a monster's dome or tendered weak spot. Also is a weapon that allows players to mount monsters at east, while playing around the ledges of terrain.
2. Sword and Shield: Besides being a very versatile weapon, you can actually eat consumables with the weapon drawn and everyone will appreciate a SNS player that runs Wide-Range (which, once maxed out, is a skill applies all consumables to their full capacity to team members within the same range) to lash some damage and heal and buff the entire party. On top of that, it is very easy to KO monsters or even mount them. I personally run SNS to help new players clear Fatalis since I'm in charge of the Canons, Turrets, Gauntling guns & Dragonator.
3. Long Sword: It's a fairly easy to use this weapons and to my eyes, also requires some mechanical skill. This weapon allows you to counter monster's attacks with a perfect timed parry, that once done right, you can buff the damage and increase your spiritual gauge in a few seconds. This weapons allows you to parry nearly everything (including monster's roars) with a very forgiving i-frame windows. Helm breaker is one of my favorite animations and the high hit numbers paired with the monster reactions are extremely satisfying.
4.Dual Blades: My weapon of choice. Not only it makes me look like a ninja by dashing and flipping everything and everyone but also is one of the weapons that allows you to tenderize parts during your combo, instead of using your clutch claw twice to tender a weak spot. Building Elemental damage with Critical Boost around these weapons will allows you to stagger monsters in a particular place, lash out extremely high DPS and often used for Speed Runs.
5. Hammer: A very straight forward weapon. Everyone should eat Black Belt Cat at the canteen, alongside with constitution and Stamina Surge decorations, run around with the Hammer Charged and land some hit and run uppercuts to KO a monster. Once KO'd, always prioritize Big Bang combo which is the bread and butter for Hammer players. Play around special terrain that allows you to slide and performing some flippy flippy attacks. High dmg output alongside with mounting monsters at ease. Bonus Tip: You can charge the hammer once with R2 + Circle/B for PS4/XBOX controllers. Your hammer will glow and this buff will only be gone if you either get Knocked or you Sheath your weapon.
6. Hunting Horn: Besides of the mutual respect we have for these players, don't sleep on it's damage. Even as a solo player, if you use your Palico to bait the monster aggro or trap him, you can lash out insane amount of damage with their combo. Don't sleep on this weapon.
7. Lance: Back in Monster Hunter 1 days, Fatalis Lance was my weapon of choice. I would wait for a monster to spawn in my area (we used to have loading screens for each area) and by spamming the up attacks, I could stagger any monster in a infinite loop. Definitely a very cheese weapon of choice. Currently you have perfect block/counter that if time properly you can deal insane amount of damage if you reflect an attack back to the monster.
8. Gun Lance: A very reliable weapon of choice for the most tenured hunters. When you play around Wyvern Stings and Shells paired with Artillery and Bombardier skills, your damage output can reach really high. Currently a weapon of choice to cheese monsters in a opener (iDevaste is a YT MHW content creator that often has speed-runs under a minute with this weapon), so don't sleep on this one either.
9. Switch Axe: A weapon that allows you to axe monsters for eternity specially if you have stamina depletion reduction buffs. In addition, once you turn it into Sword Mode and fill in the Attack Buff gauge, you can attach yourself to monsters and blow them up constantly. My weapon of choice to slay Val & Raging Brachydios. Make sure to bring some Rocksteady mantles and you can literally cheese monsters with it.
10. Charged Blade: One of the most technical weapons in the game, however it is extremely rewarding playing with it. Anyone should definitely give it a go and check for SAED or Savage Axe builds to deal insane amount of elemental / impact damage. I'm currently running Guiding Lands with it. Pro Tip: Always make sure that you buff your shield with 5/6 Phials which it allows it to be buffed by 3+ minutes. After that, perform your normal rotation and you can also pair it with perfect timing blocks in order to lash out your highest damaging attack.
11. Insect Glaive: I agree that is one of the most awkward weapon to play with however I would say that I use it for very specific hunts. Definitely one of the easiest weapons to mount monsters since you're constantly attacking them from above. Make sure to use your insect to extract monster's buffs (Red, Yellow & White) to fully power up your weapon. I'm constantly bringing it to farm Alatreon since the strategy to kill this dragon is to break it's horns first. With this weapon using Fire/Ice elemental is extremely easy to reach the damage thresholds of this monster and constantly mount it or break his horns, which will allow you to survive the Super Nova phase.
12. Light Bow Gun (LBG): Not the highest damaging weapon from the ranged loadout however it extremely versatile to play with. You can reload it while sliding and you can run around with sticky ammo for more consistent DPS & breaking monster's parts. Definitely a weapon of choice for end game content such as Guiding Lands.
13. Heavy Bow Gun (HBG): Considered to be one of the highest DPS weapons in the game and often used for speed-runs. I admire a 4-player squad that just bombards a monster with Cluster bombs or a hunter that plays around with Spread Shots. Whenever I see a spread-shoot hunter with a HBG, I just allow him to cook. The insane amount of damage output paired with constant staggers, KOs and Broken parts from the monster, I feel myself compelled to just observe the beauty (and sound of it) and collecting dropped monster materials on the floor. When you collect a Wyvern Tear material, you know that the monster you were hunting was not having a good day. On top of it, you can either run a Gauntling Gun weapon or Sniper mode. Back in MHW (1st expansion) I was able to 2 shot a Bazelgeuse.
14. Bows: One of the highest elemental ranged weapons in the game, hands down. It has KO potential (paired with an Impact Mantle), insane amount of burst, you can also KO a monster with your x2 Circle/B combo that launches pebbles in the sky and if you manage to land a Dragon Piercing attack from Head to Tail into a monster you can easily cheese it (and also slice some tails off). It's another weapon of choice to speed run Alatreon with a Dragon Pierce builds paired with Smoke Bombs.
Those are overall my insights and I'm pretty certain more could be added on top of it, however I felt compelled to provide some details about each weapon potential and practical examples of their application.
Happy Hunting everyone 😏
Thank you very much for the info! Just starting World and bought Rise and sunbreak at a low cost! I am currently Bonking heads with the hammer but seeing all these other weapon tips (Especially the hunting horn!) makes me wanna try out different weapons! So thank you for the info once again! Saved it all on my phone and will copy it onto a document to stare at while playing World!
I'm surprised that the lance was rated so low, In my opinion it's the one true S tier weapon, The only weapon that you can be hitting the monster 100% of the time and on monster parts you want to attack. It makes all the monsters in the game turn into loot pinata's rather than actual bosses you are fighting. Struggling with Nergigante's dive bomb? Deviljho's fire breath? Or any attack that Diablos does? The lance can turn those attacks AGAINST the monsters. The lance might have lower damage, but if you get efficient with where you are attacking you can clear hunts faster than most other weapons. It's the turtle that wins the race, let's be honest.... Most of you aren't the hare, you're not speedrunning these monsters. The lance is the GOAT in terms of getting the job done.
blocking with the GS EATS sharpness like theres no tomorrow, so instead I'll shoulder bash or roll. Also, in the fatalis fight, the Lance and Gunlance (and maybe Chargeblade but im not sure) can block its cone fire attack, which also prevents the fire from moving past you which has saved me and i've saved others with it many a time. This wouldn't change their team ranking, but for Fatalis specifically, i would have them up a rank
Hey good to know about Fatalis. I'm going to remember that 🫡 A yeah true it's eats Sharpness like no other does except Gunlance
Yea I was kinda shocked to find out you can just block the Fatalis cone breath with greatsword even with no levels of guard, it can definitely save your life in a pinch. I typically don’t block with greatsword except for rare, last resort instances like that, however sometimes I do block roars with GS which can be useful if you are unable to roll i-frame the roar or shoulder check for whatever reason. I typically run evade window and roll through stuff. Also what I like to do is keep a farcaster at the ready, so if I totally get out of position and i’m about to die to the cone breath you can just farcaster out
SnS also does it with the punny bucklers so that's also cool
I'm not sure if the HBG gets to do it though.
Charge Blade can block the cone yes. If I remember right it pushes you back super hard though.
Something of note with insect glaive: the descending thrust attack does M A S S I V E damage to large monsters, as long as you pick a slow kinsect. Slow kinsects hit multiple times during the thrust whereas the fast bois hit maybe twice. This move done properly absolutely demolishes Fatalis, Alatreon, Namielle, Kulve, etc. Fun fact: slap an ice elemental bug on and you can hit Alatreon's elemental threshold very quickly, freeing up your weapon to be a raw glaive.
Slotting in Flinch Free and at least one level of earplugs, tremor res, or wind res will grant you max lvl of those skills with all 3 kinsect extracts active. Good idea for those eho want to ignore roars while airborne
Wow, good tips here boss. Thanks.
Another great factor for Insect Glaive as a support: the Speed-type Kinsects drop healing dust when hitting a marked monster allowing for some passive heals amidst combat.
I enjoy the heals solo at times but the ability to overlap status effects with the glaives dust and your palico is filthy with the ability to nearly always be staggering the monster or mounting it. Then bomb dust is decent for just staggering and raw damage.
I completely maxed out my hunter in sunbreak so decided to replay iceworld again, nearly forgot how amazing charge blade feels in this game. every hit and SAED feels so satisfying and way more badass.
It sucked in Rise?
Was it bad in rise?
No lmao elemental SAED is absolutely broken in rise, it just doesn’t have that same impact that iceborne has
@@sacrificialscapegoat209 counter element SAED is insane in sunrise but I think the sounds and the looks of the SAED in iceworld feel way more awesome. it feels a lot more substantial and has a lot more punch to it.
@@chaoticboy626 in base rise the damage hitbox didn't even match the phial explosion animations. it took capcom until sunbreak was released to fix it. plus it was either use impact or fire cb. hard times for cb 😅
With the right setup of gear like Stamina Surge and Constitution, Bow deserves a way better spot on the list imo. Not necessarily the pinnacle, but personally I'd call it better than both bowguns because even though you trade a lot of utility, you get a lot of mobility and flexibility which is huge in a game like this. It's not really that much of a 5-head weapon, you just have to be smart and not run your stamina out too quickly and save the big moves for the big openings. The only "advanced" mechanic of the bow is understanding the sweet spot for when your shots are at maximum power, which the game tells you by default with the double ring crosshair instead of the single ring. The spread shot takes up way more stamina than a regular shot but if you lead any combo with a spread shot then the game doesn't charge you any stamina for it, so you can go spread-normal-normal-normal and get plenty of mileage with almost no stamina drained, because the game allows you to regen stamina by default at a pretty solid pace. Just don't be dumb about it and allow yourself some leftover stamina to evade when necessary.
The bow is also a far cry from lacking in overall damage by the time you're at endgame. My build is far from optimized and yet I'm still hitting for 35+ damage per arrow - a normal shot is 3 arrows (~90-105 damage per 3 hit) and the spread shot is 5 arrows (~150-175 if all 5 hit), and these numbers will only go higher as my bows and armor skills get better, as well as things like demondrug or power coatings. Watching a bow speedrun a monster you can see that a spread-shot on a softened target can hit for 75+ per arrow, but it can hit that softened body part every time, like a high up Anjanath tail or a Palomu's inflated face while it's flying, for example. But you also aren't waiting on the sidelines when the monster is flying or walks away from you. Bow can output almost as much damage as a greatsword because bow has much less downtime by virtue of not being held back by the target's mobility. Compile dash juice and maybe evade extender on top of this if you can fit it, bow has near equal damage output as some of the weapons with bigger raw numbers like greatsword and hammer. This really comes into play in multiplayer situations while you mindlessly fire away at the flying monster your buddy mounted say a Rathalos, and layer on 400-500 damage for free while the other allies just watch until the monster crashes, since its out of reach of the clutch claw.
Granted, I play keyboard + mouse so I guess maybe it doesn't hit the same as controller since I'm essentially playing an almost completely different game lol. Watching you play for that little bit of time near the end made me uncomfortable because the turning was so slow but I think if you tried it on keyboard and mouse you'd like it a lot more. Bow is very comfy on PC which is why I haven't swapped from it mostly, but I also have a lot of trouble with weapons that require motion inputs. I wanted to be an SnS main but I just couldn't manage the inputs at the time hahaha. It's a trade-off.
Bow leaves you very squishy though. Sometimes, especially in tempered hunts, if I have no choice but to position poorly then a monster can just look in my direction and I die. Just last night I joined an SOS to fight a tempered black Diablos and she ran at me and 1-shot me. I think that Capcom knew the bow was going to be very good and did that on purpose because otherwise you'd be getting equal defenses of a greatsword (minus the block) with nearly equal damage output in the hands of a dedicated player. I haven't really seen how, or how much, elemental defense matters since I've only ever played bow so I can't expand too much on that. My overall point being, I think the bow is better than what you give it credit for.
Spittin’ facts. Bow has some of the highest dps in comparison to the most weapons in the game. I think it sits lower on the tier list due to ease of use by the average/casual player and its “glass cannon” nature , which is fair tbh.
@@mul25Playing this one on remote is life saving, and just so much better. So, get one.
@@mul25 Here is a link to a KB+M controls guide from one of the best bow players in World. He also has really good bow guides in general, would recommend checking them out too. th-cam.com/video/jq-R9Z6PuuQ/w-d-xo.html
Nah, HbG is easy mode. You MIGHT get higher dps with huge time investment in bow, but a old geezer like me, easily can outdamage 90% of bow users by putting a shield on the hbg. When I discovered it, it ruined the game for me, it became all too easy. I started with hammer, passed to bow, then hbg. I recommend not to play hbg because of this, you trivialize all the encounters in the game except lunastra.
This comment section: "as a *insert weapon* main i can tell you that if you use this and that with my favourite weapon it is objectively SSS tier and beats all the other weapons"
Just stumbled upon this video as I'm getting back into World on PC (was originally on PS4 back when it first came out). I thought your commentary was fair and came from experience; focusing on the strengths but also acknowledging any shortcomings. Also liked the cooperative tier list at the end.
Only critique I would give is to tone down the background music. Definitely didn't overtake your voice, but was just loud enough to be distracting at times.
Yeah I've toned the music down in more recent videos! Think I found the right balance! Thank you for your input!
I know these lists are always personal opinions, so here are mine lol.
Greatsword: One of the hardest weapons to use because you depend more on your knowledge of the monster than the weapons knowledge.
S Tier.
Sword and Shield: 3:07 Perfect Rush goes brrrrrrrt.
A Tier.
Longsword: Just learn to hit your counters, then you're good with Longsword.
A Tier .
DB: Evade, no matter the circumstances, evade at all cost.
A Tier.
Also I'm pretty sure the highest DPS goes Bow dash dance or one of the bowguns.
Hammer: Power charge gives you knockback protection against flinching, some attacks, some roars, plus other buffs.
Very few to say about it honestly, bonk, spin2win, ledge spam, don't forget to charge.
A Tier, B if there's a bowgun on the hunt.
Hunting Horn: As a HH main, SSS Tier.
B if there's a bowgun on the hunt.
Shout out to the other 9 HH players.
Lance: I like Lance, poke, block counter poke, poke, run and poke, never stop poking.
A Tier.
Shout out to the 10 Lance players out there.
Gunlance: The weapon that allowed me to kill AT Velkhana.
A Tier.
Switch Axe: ZSD goes brrrrrrrt.
A Tier.
Charge Blade: This weapon feels so good to use, GP to SAED is just to good.
A Tier.
Insect Glaive: JE SUIS MONTE
A Tier.
Bowgun: Status ammo, elemental ammo, sticky.
S Tier, C if I'm playing Hammer and other is using Sticky on the head.
Heavy Bowgun: Spread, Pierce, Sticky.
S Tier, D if I'm playing HH and other is using Sticky on the head.
Bow: This shit is a shotgun, bring traps, coat, dash dance and wrecked shit.
A Tier.
For multiplayer I will say depends more on the player.
I am a fan of this list. The reason why is because you ranked everything similarly high and I'm a firm believer that there are no bad weapons at all. Good stuff man
thanks for the shoutout fellow HH main
a tier list isn't really useful if most of the tiers are empty lol
I love using the SWAX so much, as someone who isn't a hardcore monster hunter world gamer but HAS played it off and on since release--- It's one of my favorite weapons, focusing on targeting busting heads with the axe and sniping tails with the sword mode when I dump out my burst damage. It's so much fun to me---
I'm a hammer secondary for the same reason, I love the effort I put into landing my hits and when they hit, they HIT.
great video I enjoyed your criticism of the weapons whilst also respecting the players that use them regardless of the condition. but I personally felt that the music was a bit too loud, anyway keep up the great work.
Yeah I've since corrected the music volume on newer videos lmao. I didn't realize how loud it was after the video was finished. Thanks for watching!
I love the lance in this game.
A trully underrated weapon, it has a lot of mobility and dps potencial with the charge.
It's able to jump on its own so you don't need a ledge to mount.
That shield is something else with the right set up you can tank anything velkana ice beams deviljoe breath blasts kirin lightning onlly atacks it cannot block are grabs or novas like Safi or behemoth.
Counter lance and counter claw make this specially useful to punish very agresive monsters that use a lot of phisical atacks like Diablos or Tigrex or rajang.
It has comparatibly low DPS but it has a lot of utility, with a provoking gem you can be a propper aggro tank keeping the monster's atencion on you while your teammates can bring the pain.
That shield can absolutely take a beating.
Agree 100% lance is awsome in Mh rise its broken
I'm a main Lance, i always feel like fights are like chess games, i play other weapons too, learned them all, very fun, but Lance.. When i'm with it, you just get so much value from thinking forwards in a fight, there's alot of different tactics to use for each attack the monster does. The hardest part in the beggining was understanding that risk gives you reward so much. I never really think about the damage output on Lance, but the utilities i can stack up. Having a precise damage point, you can easily hit a tall monster in the head or tail from just sitting down, Offensive Guard teaches you to not keep the guard all the time, Guard Thrust let you position yourself safely, and from it you can either get more distance with Leaping Thrust or even KO the monster with Shield Attack (slugger ftw), if a player hits your counter you get a free Earplugs effect, if you Counter Claw you get Hyper Armor (Rocksteady Mantle), if you Dash Attack running and jump you can easily mount monsters, with ailments on weapons like Poison, Paralyzis, Blast or Sleep you can inflict so much status on them quickly, with Counter Claw you can punish the monster EVERYTIME it charges at you or attacks you, in multiplayer you can absolutelly erase a monster defense by grabbing all his parts and exposing all the parts to mini-crits (as you attack them grabbed, you weaken the part), to counter the huge loss in sharpness you just slap Teostra's set and negates any sharpness loss, because you grab a monster, weaken it's parts and get mini-crits from every hit, so Teostra's set can proc everytime. The more you fight a monster and know it's attacks, the more powerfull a Lance becomes, it's a dance, at first it looks like a slow and just poky weapon, but oh, it's so much more, it has so many uses, it's so usefull. Power Guard can hit ANY direction, so if a monster pass you while using it, you can just aim backwards to hit it's tail offscreen, with a massive attack, i break so many tails offscreen. It's soo deep, so awesome to use and learn. It's totally not about damage numbers on Lance, it's about dominating a fight by not just doing damage, but with utilities, it not only makes any kill easier to the Lancer, but in multiplayer just makes everyone enjoy the fight more, i have some people that love playing with me because of how much i can make a fight easier to them, i trully feel like a support/healer (with Wide-Range), i can just prepare the monster, weaken it, bully it to the ground and let everyone have more fun. Love the Lance, always will. Great video!
I liked it but only because you are talking about the Lance I did not read this its too long
Thanks for this explanation. I Will try lance now
As a lance main my self, I agree 100% that using the lance is a dance, both guard build, and the even more crazy evasion build
Lance is slow methodical? My dude lance is the most aggressive weapon in the game! You can literally keep attacking at all times and stick like glue to the monster. Having lower damage is balanced by the fact it doesnt ever need to stop attacking.
Demon blades:😼
As a hunting horn main, I believe it’s great for solo hunts being about to buff and heal yourself while doing dmg is great. Especially in those situations where using a healing pot feels impossible. Also use the encores please 🙏😭
the safi raids pushed me to finally learn the weapon and im so glad i did. everything went so much better once i focused on team support. im looking to do another play through with someone new to series soon and i plan to do it all with the hunting horn to support them
as a HH main, the worst thing about the weapons is that everything takes too long, so on fast monsters it's a nightmare to find a window long enough to play a song, specially when the monster is enraged. i usually prefered blast element hh when possible and go for KO. I recently tried out hammer and loved it too, since i was all about KOs and dealing as much dmg as possible with triple sonic boom as HH anyways XD.
HH main here too. There's some monsters I just can't see myself doing without the HH. The songs are so good to boost yourself ! Ignore some monster mecanics ! Stun the monster by tooting in its face !!! What's not to love...
As a fellow hunting horn main, I also love playing solo with it.
It is, in my opinion, the second most comfortable weapon to play with. Only outclassed by SnS for comfort.
There is a horn for every monster and I believe there is a horn for every player.
I say this because there is a song for just about every annoying thing in the game (negate stun, lower stamina costs, heals, defense boosts, wind negation) and there is a fairly good variety of horns with different song lists.
So one just have to find the horn with the songs that you want to play with.
It's a shame they slowed down the HH and reduced its motion values at the same time because I think this is the most fun HH in the series next to GU. The Rise rework is so infuriating to me because I used to love the HH so much, now it hardly feels like the same weapon.
On the other hand, I feel lance is stronger than most give it credit for, it isn't just a full defensive weapon. Yes defense is something it does well, and the damage seems low, but the truth is it is a weapon that rewards reactions and reads a lot. With lance, you need to really take advantage of the incredible mobility it touts to really get the most out of it. Lance can strike, advance, and guard almost all the time and sticking to the monster means sustained dps, but you gotta learn how to maneuver through the attacks. The best lancers will essentially be stuck to the monster's hip, and are immovable. Just please be considerate and don't slap them from behind. This is a fast paced weapon if you play it well.
Also knowing the monsters combo so you don’t do counter guard and attack into the next monster attack
As an SnS support main, I've found that just being able to consistently access your items even while your weapon is drawn is an underrated quality of life improvement. It means that you need less time to react to healing to someone, and those scant fractions of a second necessary to save someone from getting carted can matter a lot, especially in high difficulty monsters like Alatreon or Fatalis (and also lets be real, needing randoms to fight those guys means a support is almost mandatory since most randoms are wildly unreliable in a fight, and it only takes one person with zero survival instincts to mess up the quest for the rest of the party).
Dude 100% a well timed flash bug had saved my party more ways then non, and with it being a lighter weapon you can dance around the monster while the other players do their best!!
Its not a QoL improvement, item use with SnS has been around since day one.
Edit: Almost day one, it was changed in MH2, so has been around since the second entry in the series, way back in 2006 😅. I'm pretty sure they implemented the change in monster hunter one (which was monster hunter Freedom) for the psp. Hence my original thoughts of it being since day one.
@@seanbingham6923 It wasn't in freedom either, it started with gen 2 same way GS charge started in gen 2
I actually liked the charge blade. Once you get used to the mechanics it's got high potential.
10:42 The hunting horn even in Solo is really good. Is damages actually pretty comparable to a hammer but you also get to buff your palacos and trailer raiders and it's one of the few weapons where you will actually be able to keep them with you for most of the hunt.( I'm in grade sword but I also used a hunting horn to beat most of my second playthrough of world and iceborn)
"even me a veteran" bro used helm breaker at white gauge 💀
I guess "veteran" status is either subjective or doesn't require as much experience as I thought. Bro missed like half the tech of most of the weapons that would easily change their tier rankings.
Veteran doesn't necessarily means skilled
Charge blade is absolutely s tier if you start with it and can master it by midgame, it's the perfect blend of massive damage, elemental output, and great defense
Overrated weapon... 😂
HH main here, but thats beside the point. i honestly woulda bumped LS into S tier for solo play simply because the monster is targeting you 90% of the time and makes it easier to do counters to build up your spirit gauge quicker. maybe also bump CB into A tier, the weapon *is* really difficult to properly use, but if you do use it properly you can deal MASSIVE amounts of damage
As a Glaive main since release, I'll have to say it's at the top of A tier or bottom S. Once mastered you can take on any monsters in the game, including soloing Behemoth when he released (only weapon I could drop him with). Give it a shot, it's awesome!
As a person who mains Insect Glaive,my weapon is very easy to make itself useful. However,most people would be shocked with how many secret abilities it has. For instance you can feed slinger ammo to the kinsect to supercharge the kinsect buffing you in the process. Furthermore the supercharge lets you collect two buffs at once. Honestly in a great amount of situations,the Glaive has better support for yourself then even the hunting horn which is limited due to having to choose a weapon for that horn’s buffs,meanwhile Glaive have access to possibly heal dust,heal power,movement speed buff,defense buff,supercharge buff,ultimate buff(all buffs without supercharge.) and ultra buff(all buffs). As a skilled Glaive,I die less thanks to ultra buff and the insane self healing capabilities,but also evading is really easy for this weapon. Is this making it S tier,idk,but I solo some of the most difficult bosses in the game with this weapon,like Blackveil Vaal Hazak,and I am faint less with fights like Furious Rajang and Raging Brachy, so I might try solo them also. I think at least A tier for solo and co-op,though some others have put this at S tier. Additionally,I think longsword gets to much hate especially since there is a decoration in the game that disables friendly knock back.
the sticky ammo safi build from tds on the LBG is amazing, it's super easy to hunt bc you're at very safe distances and the dmg output is actually insane. The prep for the builds is the thing which makes it super difficult to get into the build because you need a ton of blastnuts and you run out of ammo very quickly if you don't prepare well for the hunt. The Nagacuga essence is vital to the build and the Safi weapon is the acutal best one for the LBG.
I have the shara ishvalda HBG for my Stick 3 build. You just focus on using Level 3s. Get the gear to increase the max artillery levels + Slugger and go nuts. You can bring plenty of ammo for it to keep a monster down over a period of time (Remember you make 2 Lvl 3s per craft, so craft when you're down to 1 so you don't waste mats by essentially losing one additional bullet due to ammo caps).
You can also restock in the tent if you need more (I farmed a LOT of Blastnuts over the course of playing so I always got the stock XD). I prefer the HBG for sticky builds because you can use the Power Barrel to FURTHER increase the damage/KO power of the stickies on TOP of the Impact Mantle. Just absolutely silly when even in a 4 man I can with regularity KO a monster up to 6 times without assistance from a blunt weapon user. Plus, the Shara gun is an auto reload for LVL3 and has little recoil with a mod so you can just pump Level 3's pretty swiftly without much care.
And I haven't even tried to fine tune the set to squeak Spare Ammo yet. XD
i like the list, i wish you would have shown off a few more of the weapon’s unique attacks, thinking of new players coming across this video not knowing about the dual blades’ aerial spinning attacks for example. nice video though man
I would actually say the lance is one of the most aggressive weapons for experienced players. The draw of the lance is that when played properly it never has to stop attacking. It's methodical, yes, but slower paced it is not. The slow paced and methodical weapon of the lot is probably the greatsword. Also think you are underrating bow a bit (though I am a bow main, so take it with a grain of salt). The damage of the weapon is in no way lacking, even if you are too lazy to bother with coatings most of the time like me, because bow's dps is actually quite good and moreover it is excellent at keeping that dps up. It's main issue is that you need a number of specific skills to make it effective, so in the early stages of the game its pretty lackluster, but once you clear that it's a monster shredder. Great for solo and arguably even better for co-op, since it brings utility through status coatings, high ranged dps you can keep up even if the monster is running all over the place, and doesn't get in the way of other hunters.
Also I think you are underrating sword and shield in co-op. Hunting Horn is great and all, but for me support SnS is the one true king of co-op. I had barely touched the SnS until late game iceborne, when I decided to try out a free meal secret tank build for it, and yet despite my complete inexperience with the weapon that set has proved to be the absolute goat for saving SoS hunts. There is nothing quite so effective for saving a struggling party as unlimited healing you can pump out as soon as someone gets hit. Even if your own dps tends to be lackluster (though even then, I've often walked away from these hunts still doing around the same damage as the rest of the party), keeping everyone healthy means they can better output their own dps, not to mention the obvious complete avoidance of carting (so long as nobody gets oneshot anyways).
I'd say Dual blades are harder to use than most people think, I'd say they are an intermediate maybe even expert type weapon.
Because if you are kinda new, you barely get damage out of them and get killed instantly.
YOU REALLY need to know your enemy to utilize them perfect
Dual blades are also the best elemental weapons. Dual ice blades are the best Teostra/Lunastra killers. They won't even be able to do the supernova if you constantly overload them.
"i play it so its actually hard and the best"
@@rare8567 I'd say "the best" is HBG and Longsword for sure.
Dual blades animation locks are giga shit for beginners
@@rare8567 nah. People have preferences. I use all weapons but I still main the GS because of the satisfying damage numbers.
that's true, but it's also true that you need to know your enemy to utilize EVERY weapon. Since, every weapon has a high ceiling but LS has the lowest floor
You really gonna complain about the longsword tripping people, but not even take a moment to mention the switchaxe's space program?
I've been violently ejected in the middle of fights more often from switchaxes than I've ever been flinched by longswords.
Try to go for an attack on a down monster's head? Better hope there isn't a switchaxe behind you, because that upward swing is the only thing they care about.
As a casual I find gunlance to be my favorite. The first one I tried was insect glaive but found it tedious with the bug thing and the switch axe and hammer are the only other weapons I'm really familiar with but ultimately gunlance is my go to. Good damage and tanky defense. Can't hate it. The only weapons I've never bother with really would be all the ranged stuff, the great sword and lance.
Listen close, I teach you to use CB in two minutes.
1) First, charge your phials. Light attacks when the monster can move around, charge attacks (O/B) when the monster is down. Time your charge attacks right or else you waste time. Once the phials are red (or yellow if you are coward), R2(RT) + O(B) to charge phials. Leave these phials for later, don't use.
Repeat process until you have full set of charged phials and your sword glows red. You now have fully charged Charge Blade. Yay. Congratulations.
2) From here, hit buttons as so: O + Triangle x3, on third click, hunter will start to put sword and shield into axe mode, once the sword is inserted in shield, click R2. This transfers charged phials into the shield increasing damage output of axe mode. Now, you have no phials and your sword will be red. Charge phials, and when charged hold triangle. Now the sword will be charged too and you will deal stun damage with sword swings.
Continue with playstyle in paragraph 1 until monster is down. Now we have fun.
3) Triangle + R2 to switch to axe mode. Spam O(B) button on monster's skull to deal axe attacks with stun damage. If followed instructions above, on your second (or third if you play wrong) attack, hunter will slam axe into the skull and cause lots of stun damage with a phial discharge.
Rinse, and repeat process from 1.
There are shortcuts all throughout here, as well as one more mode we like to call saw axe mode, but those are intricacies for Iceborne or would require more explanation.
Nice to see HH mains getting some love. I would add that with a selfish build HH can be very effective solo too. The deviljo horn for example absolutely wrecks face
As an SNS main, I'm so glad that there are not a lot of us.
As a long sword main…I can respect this; and I do apologize for my poor placement. This was my first MH game and I love it! To anyone thinking about picking it back up or starting your first run, I highly recommend you do so. It’s still an absolute blast to play.
New HH main here, base game soloing is great if you don't mind missing tails. Lance main too, super fun but takes a while. First main was cb and my hh gets pretty close or beats my old times. Ive been calling it the doot doot bonk. Dont remember where I got it from
Cause it Doots and Bonks. Sounds about right 😂😉
I think the HH got a bad rap in base world, but Iceborne turned HH up a lot. Not a lot of people bothered to notice though. It's a shame because a lot of people are missing out on a great weapon. But fear not, Capcom dumbed down the greatness of Iceborne HH in Rise to make it just another hammer.
@@joe6pak14 how does the horn play in rise, never played the game to be honest
@@zipprime6956 I deleted my old comment because I was talking bad about it, but there are new HH mains that shouldn't be shamed. It just plays very different. In MHW:I your horn had several melodies, things to think about for extending melody time. They lowered the skill floor, but I'm sure the skill ceiling is still similar. I just wish it played the old more methodical approach.
If you're using the Lance you don't need to reposition yourself for monsters. Nay, monsters reposition for YOU. Lance is the supreme weapon.
Cringe
Agree i have lance Fatalis build and its so broken i almost never take damage wtf
S-tier Hammer Bro First Fleet Old guy that can attest to liking the Lance.
HELL YEAH A HAMMER BRO. Personally I haven't used the lance a lot but I'm as veteran as they come as well and I think it's sick too.
honestly this video is very nice. being an IG main im of course going to say its an S tier weapon just because of the mobility that it gives you (i also prefer being able to move around a lot since i dont really wanna stay and calculate where the monster has to be in order to charge the weapon so i can get the most damage out of it) . im also a very casual player and dont nitpick my build, i just go with whatever sounds good for what monster im gonna hunt and thats it. somehow those games always calm me (EXCEPT FOR KUSHALA DAORA WHICH I DESPISE FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART IN EVERY GAME I HUNTED IT) cuz i usually just sit back and hunt monsters with a cigarette in my hand and listening to a podcast and get 5 to 15 min runs on most of the monsters i hunt. idk why im ranting this much but its 4 am where i live and those games give me a feeling no other game does and its really nice to see the different opinions on every weapon in the comments. makes me want to try some again and do some big hunts with them
yeah kinda insulting to have the Insect Glaive on the same tier as a light bowgun,
I only started using Greatsword recently because Sunbreak's moveset eased me into it, but when i hopped back into World and started using it, then every puzzle piece fell into the place. It's such a great weapon.
Charge blade is definite A\S tier. May be biased though cause I absolutely love it 🤷🏽♂️
S tier for sure, in capable hands the thing is bonkers. Hard to master, but its damage potential is ridiculous
S for sure.. SAED rocks, but the flexibility to charge your sword to ignore bounces, fury axe mode for when SAED isn't suitable.. Insane blocking and guard points, constant pressure in sword mode, KO and severing.
Amazing weapon.
I know individual play style will determine a weapon’s effectiveness but I feel hammer is “easier” to use solo because the monster will be attacking you so you have less gap to close and a head always in UNGA BUNGA range!
I hammer main, while playing HH and HBG.
I usually have wide range 5, with mushroommancer, and hunters *love* me. Combine with free eat secret and you have 10 max potions you can turn into over 50! I grab two stacks of the free potions and i have prevented MANY carts.
As a support player, HGB is an S tier weapon because it can do a bit of everything.
It can heal, it can paralyze, it can poison, it can stun, it can wake up, it can DPS, it can recovery, it can BUFF, AND as you said it can survive with guard+. People sleep on HGB because you have to set up the ammo lists and radial commands to become all powerful.
I am a new play, and this is SO helpful for a solo player!
I've now mastered the Great Sword, and I do not regret it one bit.
Thank you again Sir for the detajled video
some of my absolute favourite weapons are SNS and lance, i dont think lance is slow at all, you ca be quite mobile chaining guard dashes and play extreamly agressive with all the counter options you have also using the clutch counter on lance makes it so much funa and in my opinion the best iteration of lance in any monster hunter games
I’d rank the Lance at least a tier for multiplayer because beyond just taking aggro, they also have the easiest access to wounding parts with the clutch guard and free slinger bursts that KO monsters pretty easily or stack elderseal with dragon pods
They don’t take aggro
Lance its secret broken ,almost noone uses it
I feel like this list is made in a way that it would scare people away from certain weapons. Some of the fastest speed runs are done with Gunlance and heavybow gun. But like he said in the end choose what you want. As long as you contribute and don't faint, ending a hunt, choose what will find fun.
Speed runs aren't really a good way to gauge a weapon. Especially when they are all mostly within seconds of each other.
I’m a lancer, and have always been from MH1….was a favourite for tail locking rathalos for all that rathalos plate farming.
Counter/evade lancing and counter clutching isn’t as bad as most people think
HBG was really difficult to me, but my brother help me with the ammo options, i am at the end game, and i can say its super fun to have shield and KO at the same time, i prefer hunts with more player so i can hit the monster with sticky ammo 3 and if the monster comes for me i just put up the shield
At the end of must hunts i get KO star or something like that,
Not every time i can use HBG, like against the Furious Rajang, but i use GS too
SaS was not my first weapon but i have respect for it because it help me clean Diablos back in the day
Nice video! I really like it!
I love dual blades and I actually run it as a support build in multiplayer/SOS. I have a fast sheath, an easy and quick combo for weakening the monster, and can dodge and roll out easier than other weapons. With only friendship + sometimes gobbler, I'm able to just constantly heal and support my teammates with no issues. The only downside is that this means I can't do all the fancy big damages all the time. Still, with that mobility, I'm able to grab Behemoth and Safi's attention half of the time.
I'm kind of disappointed SnS was placed at C tier 😔 and I'm surprised no one is talking about it. I'm far from a master of it but I've played for around 10+ hours and I can *feel* how much I can improve. It also has a very high skill ceiling from what I've heard, and what I've felt, so a master of it would surely be A tier or maybe even S tier.
That was actually the one mistake I made with this video. I'm not sure what i was thinking at the time but it deserves A tier for sure. It's super good
@@TeraRyza that's great 🙂
HH used to be 2% before I moved to Sunbreak, so I think that says how many people use it XD
Really fun tho, I highly recommend it just for messing around and getting a few buffs. 😄👍👍
Yeah it's not even like 5% it's so low but it is indeed fun 😄
The most hilarious thing is that LS while being most popular is among the hardest weapons to master and SnS while being often described as "support" weapon - is literally pocket greatsword god slayer beast machine that outputs broken dps during perfect rush😂
>jumps over downed monster
>no descending thrust into combo
>”ya this thing doesnt have great damage”
"clip some toe-nails"
Given them the "HOPCHOP"
Is it really that bad for y'all when I play LS? I will switch if it's that much of a issue
Lance is slow for beginners of the weapon. You can actually jump with you charge attack to mount. There is also the master combo I call the Dance of Death. In every MH I have shown those who thought it slow how much faster it is. Unlike most weapons it never has down time on attacking for those who master it. The added counter hit makes it even more devastating in the hands of skilled hunters. Lance has always been God tier.
Hbg is S- tier FG for multiplayer you can stun better than a hammer and have support amo, like patalyzis, sleep, demon, heal etc.. And its the best dps to benefit getting buffs from other player it self.
That's true I forgot about the ridiculous stun potential on sticky. What was it a while back. The Beastbuster?
Charge blade is definitely S tier in my opinion. Monster hunter world was the first monster hunter game i played. Started with the bow had a lot of fun with it, learned longsword which was also awesome, hammer also. But once i learned charge blade, that thing can solo anything, great damage and defence, ok mobility once you learn it.
"Why don't i see people block with this thing?"
Cuz you can roll, tackle or just sheath it and move instead, which are all better options for the vast majority of things a monster will throw at you. You only really block as a panic button if the monster is about to hit you with a combo that's too fast to dodge or dive.
Yes, but please consider
Offensive Guard
@@Grey-The-Skeleton You know... That actually sounds fun!
Thanks for the suggestion, Skelly
Very nice video buddy. I tried almost all weapons, except charge blade & sword and shield & longsword. A bit suspicious as a main bow guy, but I literally started playing other weapons because with bow (most hunts) were really easy. Bow damage is normally always number 1 on multiplayer quests by far. But I admit other weapons are more fun
you think bow is a easy starterweapon for people with 0 reflexes and skill like me?
Great video, excellent breakdown of the weapon mechanics and playstyles they work well with. I played MHW back when it first came out but stopped before Iceborne came around for reasons and recently grabbed iceborne on a sale and my son saw me playing and wanted to join. We watched your video to help him get a sense of what he wanted to start with. he picked Great sword same as I did first time i played. i told him its good but just now you gonna be not super fast more like fast walking, not running, he said 'I want the thing to die' lol
thanks bubba
putting IG as a mounting monster is just wrong. It deals something like 1/3 or less of the mounting damage and near anything else will do better if there's a ledge or slope nearby. Especially GS with charged areal attacks. SnS also outperforms it anywhere for mounts as well. IG also does best DPS on the ground, meaning you're sacrificing a lot of damage to try and mount badly
Also the weapon popularity depends on which system , for example Xbox popularity is 1:glaive, 2dual blades,3 long sword, 4 GS, 5 Bow.
No way... Glaive is number 1 on Xbox? For real???
Great list but you did multiplayer lance so dirty. Never trips your allies, tends to draw monster aggro and doesn't move so the monster stays "mostly" in the same space, mounts almost as good if not better than the insect glaive, able to break parts most other weapons just can't reach... Please just buff my baby Capcom :(
sns has the best mount in the game and it builds up a crapton of stun with it(you can delay the final knockdown letting you spam shieldbashes in it's face). it also can mount from the ground like insect glaive without any ledges. If you run paralysis and flash bombs you can just deny monsters from leaving the area before they go to sleep to make the final sleep showdown go more smoothly.
Also perfect rush if hammer gets an S for stuns Sword and shield gets an s for absolutely disabling the monster from doing anything making the monster SSUCk at existing.
Yeah sns at c tier is criminal. It’s over powered when you have perfect rush available and you utilise stuns/mounts well. It’s safe and deals as much damage as a great sword how is it c tier? Genuinely only makes sense if we are speaking of people picking up these weapons as beginners with no skill in the weapon.
A live and die by the Bowgun kinda guy, HBG having become my preferred over the years (Used to be mainly LBG in my early days with a high emphasis on maximising elemental damage output + status). However, in World especially, HBG just puts in so much work solo and in group. I'm eager to really explore my options once I finish breaking through MR99+ though, but the three sets I have presaved are really great coverage options for different monsters that I know I struggle with or can be more brave against. (A Peak Performance/Agitator/Max regen Shield gun set for really wild monsters I struggle to kite proper and rather just stay in their face and shotgun them to death. A full powered shotgun set with group support in wide range/speed eating/free meal to pump out mad damage but also rolley polley away to heal up the group and my balls out KO Sticky 3 set that refuses to let a monster stand XD)
I begin playing monster hunter 2days ago, my first weapon was this HBG, it look more realistic to finish a godzilla with a gun that with a sword, and I like the way I can use different ammos, but I dont lnow nothing about it, for example, the iron have a minigun as second form, but the Bone have a sniper that dont look so good against monsters, you have some tips?
@@Anonymus553 In regards to the special ammo type of the heavy bowguns, which of the two you use is preference but can also be monster dependant.
The Wyvernhart (The gattling gun mode) can rack up some serious damage and is likely considered the better of the two special shot types just to how much burst damage it allows but requires you to get up pretty close to make the most out of it, thus putting you in greater danger yourself.
The Wyvernsnipe has become a favorite of mine but it's a bit harder to use. This shot is actually very good on monsters that are long. You want to shoot the monster straight on, basically from face to tail or vice versa. You get 'more hits' the longer the monster is and then the hits all explode. What makes this shot type VERY strong is the explosions will deal high damage because they ignore the monster's resistances like all explosives do, so you can really do a lot of damage with this shot if you're taking advantage of it to the fullest and it can be fired from safer distances than the gattling mode.
I'd say experiment with both types of shots because some monsters you can do insane damage against with the sniper shots where the gattling mode just plinks off the monster and won't do nearly as much. But in other scenarios, for smaller monsters or ones with really big weak zones to projectile damage the gattling mode can rack up some big burst damage.
@@TaskMaster5 i can change between minigun and sniper mid fight? If the question is stupid…. I really entered in MH franchise just 3 days ago….. my last hunt was a bug fish
@@Anonymus553 s'all good! You can't switch between sniper or machine gun mode, which mode a heavy gun has is based entirely on if it's built off the iron or bone weapon trees. You'll want to have at least a few different guns that will help you tackle different monsters more effectively based on what ammo types they can use as well as their special shot type (snipe or heart).
@@TaskMaster5 sniper is a single very powerful shot while heart is many medium damage shots, correct? And how I recharge the sniper and heart? It dont look be the same as the normal mode
Your commentary is both hilarious and informative, good shit man 🤣
Hey thanks man! It's hard to strike the balance of info dumping while retaining personality. Happy to know it struck you in a good way haha. Thanks for your feedback!
i really dont know understand why people say the Charge blade is the most complex weapon when its actually really simple and probably the top 3 of most versatile while putting out a lot of power, it actually became more fluid in world, playing it in the old games though its definitely super complicated
Charge blade pros is that a lot of the attack moves to charge the weapon up and use the phials block and parry majority of attacks thrown your way, once you charge up the red shield you can do a massive attack that drains all your phials.
Cons is to get most out of the weapon you need to keep constantly charging up the weapon and need to know where the monster is going to go in order to target it with the the slower more powerful charge attacks.
Nice, you hepled a lot, i started monster hunter whit the gun lance but after i had to drop the game, do you think i should return to play this game and maybe change the weapon being a beginer and a solo player?
I think Gunlance is beginner friendly! Some attacks on it are a bit slow though. So if you do come back I suggest using Gunlance if you like it but also trying out just 1 more weapon like Sword and Shield and Longsword as they have better mobility and a vastly different playstyle while also being very beginner friendly weapons. I personally love Gunlance but dont bring it to every fight.
Returning player after a couple of years (and due to Winter Steam sale, PC instead of PS4, fresh start, relearn everything) so this list a fun refresher. I was a CB/ Glaive main depending on what I felt like doing and a HH when I was being support (I tend to like the more complicated classes/weapons in games).
Idk if it was your own clips but I noticed some of the ones that I use on the regular, you were using completely wrong. Especially hammer xD. But for the most part I really like this video, great job. Although I do think there was a lot of personal feelings involved in the decision making process but I don't mind it too much since as I said before I quite like this video. Great job 🥳
These were indeed my own clips. I probably just took some of the worst parts on accident or maybe I'm just bad 😂 I appreciate your kind words though! Tierlists should never be taken to heart regardless. Literally everything is great in MHW haha.
The True Fatalis Gunlance is only the strongest for Slap-lancing. For Shell-lancing you want one of the Long Shell 6 options (the weapon doesn't matter much in this case, but Vaal is pretty good).
Thanks for this buddy I just started recently and started and I'm really enjoying the charge blade bit this video made me want to give some other weapons a try
As a hunting horn main if you build around solo it is insanely good
Dont sleep on the bow. It's an incredible weapon when you master it. Hitting dragon piecer correctly gives you insane damage.
I've played MH games for almost 15 years now and I genuinely wish I could learn how to HH properly. I've never been able to get the combos down.
Mad respect to those 1%, really wish I saw more of you
Insect glaive is goated especially with the Kinsect dust clouds you can deal status effects and heal. I personally find it the most fun to play because I like to fly around.
I played the whole game through with glaive only, all content done with the glaive, i love it, drawback its the only weapon i know how to play (aside from horn which i also enjoy and play a bit every now and then) the drawback is I don't know how to play any other weapons and im looking to expand my horizons. xdd
@@zipprime6956 Also an Insect Glaive main since day 1 of MHW but also pocketpicks Bow. I suggest you learn Bow, also quite fun
Just started playing like a week ago and I've gone through a roller coaster of emotions learning the charge blade. I only thing that madness me keep using it is that every time I figure out somthing new about it, I get excited.
As a gunlance main that gameplay hurt my soooooul. Good video though i enjoyed it, my favorite gunlance is the Alatreon Melt. Wide 7 and looks badass
HH solo is B, pretty versatile, everything is doable and you can use specific horn to counter specific monsters which is good, and makes some monsters just a walk in the park (night shade paolumu with negate ailments for example) Dmg is pretty good overall if you don't mind hunts around 25-15 mins, spin is pretty dang strong. the only monsters I truly struggled where Ala and Fatty. Mayb AT velk but I had good preparation for that one. Having certain buffs for certain monsters makes them pretty comfy, in general I felt this iteration pretty comfy. in endgame having busted horns is pretty easy (raging brachy for example is an AMAZING HORN, it's extremely good. I encourage everyone to do a viper tobi kadachi with negate all ailments. Chef's kiss) Furious rajang horn. Velk horn, I'm not into safi, so I did everything in the game without safi stuff (a personal tantrum you could say) neither with the boosts of affinity, decos,etc,etc. And I found myself pretty comfortable in the entirety of my run except with alatreon (that monster was my wall). (I finished the game like a week ago, hunted every monster solo pending only fatty).
update, I did fatty solo few days ago
Alatreon wasn't too horrible once you got his moves down. However, when fatty came out, I couldn't play for a while. So when I did play, I'd gotte way rusty and couldn't beat it. 😢
@@erivida64 its doable, the thing with ala and fatty is that they make you play Monster Hunter in a way that you got to respect them, keep grinding him once you get the optimal strat he’s doable and the feeling of beating him is amazing the first time coop and first time solo, to me is the best siege in mh period, my big advice is use ghillie mantle and heavy artillery, make the most of each opportunity given and focus the head (i usually take dmg so whenever he does this attack that sweeps with his fire breath i like to use the clutch claw to keep the dmg on the head + tenderize), you can bring him down to the floor multiple ways like the ghillie heavy artillery opening, if you prioritize learning how to get those situations + chipping dmg in certain moves. I encourage everyone to do that fight is just amazing and use powders,pills and demondrugs. U can do it!
(Also one good opening is having ur palico with a para weapon usualli you can get one consistently)
I found rajang really hard too with the horn. He just doesnt let you get the moves in
@@gonzaloibarra9007 👍💪🤛
@@t0q14s9 focus on the laser and let him move, tremor resistance or timing your rolls can make you chip your fst attacks, it’s more a patience test than a fight, personally I enjoy furious a lot more, regular rajang opening windows are weird
As a Bow, Dual Blades, Longsword, Charge Blade, Bowgun, and Insect Glaive main (In World. I don't have as much variety in other games lol) I would consider bow an S rank in solo play because of how mobile it is. It makes it very safe and easy to hit the best weakzones of most monsters while still being able to quickly get out of the way of hits/dodge through them (very very easy with a level or two of evasion)
Honestly started really having fun in MHW when I switched to CB. I wasn’t a huge fan of the simplicity of the other weapons. But when Im wacking a monster with a CB when SAED comes through it’s the best feeling ever. Will agree the skill ceiling is high. Took me watching videos about it to really learn and understand its capabilities. But fun weapon if you guys are trying to dive into the multi-tool weapons
IQ main here. I’ve wanted to learn another weapon and currently learning the long sword just because I’ve never used it until World/Rise just because I wanted to try something new. I used CB and SA in previous titles and they’re pretty fun although I’d be lying if I said I can use them well. IQ makes it so much fun and helps keep up with all the flying Wyverns as it feels like you can truly battle air targets. As for ground targets, you can basically fly around them and makes it hard for them to hit you
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With IG I made AT Velkhana my b!tch
HBG is an obvious S tier and it is the strongest weapon in the game. Light bowgun is also extremely efficient and effective hence why it’s always used for farming, I think it deserved to go higher on the list. Bow is a little harder to use but can be very good as well. I’m a big fan of greatsword and longsword. Longsword isn’t the strongest, it trades some damage for its unrivaled versatility, long reach and defensive counters, but i’m able to get really solid clear times nonetheless because you have near constant damage uptime due to its counters.
The greatsword has consistently been my highest damage dealing weapon (except for HBG) and has enabled me to get my best speedrun times on certain monsters like Alatreon. Switch axe, charge blade, dual blades and SnS are all really solid weapons. I would agree with most of your other placements. I kinda gauged weapon performance on how well it works against Alatreon and all of those worked well for me, Gunlance is kind of underrated too
HI, thank you for the video. If you do co-op with the long-sword, can you hit other players with it?
01:36 "If you don't get an immediate adrenaline rush, I don't know what the hell is wrong with ya" 🤣🤣 such a good line
Even I crack up listening to myself say that 😂 ...BUT ITS TRUE