For real... How about a Hybrid Honda Odyssey? Honda: With the new 2024 Honda Odyssey, you can now change the HVAC controls through your phone.... (Nobody asked for this)
Agreed! Current owner of an '07 Fit. 250,000 miles, all stock, non-molested and still running strong. I ordered an armrest console kit because 1st gen Fits didnt come with an armrest. I still take mine on 10-15 hour road trips on top of traveling 80 miles round trip daily to work from Riverdale, GA to Roswell, GA via GA-400. Never broke down on me. Always have gotten me from point A to B.
Spot on, 2015 EX here, and every point is spot on. Major takeaways are the VTC actuator and avoiding the white paint. Avoid the white at all costs. One thing I’d add is the fuel rail went bad on mine and luckily was replaced under warranty. If the fuel rail goes bad and you have a bad VTC actuator. Definitely take advantage of the warranty and use that labor saved to replace the actuator. Also not really a fit thing but the keylight will intermittently turn on if you have a remote fab. Still love this car a lot.
A few people brought up the "Push Button Start Recall" in the comments. I have the base model FIT so I only wanted to mention things that I could relate too. Yours is manual too right? I've heard mixed reviews about CVT transmission. I think the CVT transmissions are just bad in general, no matter what car they're in.
I have two Fits, 2009 Sport Blackberry and 2013 Base Silver. We are so attached to our old cars and have named them Penelope and Sylvia. You are right on, the latches on both have busted or frozen up. Penelope 2009 has considerable rusting on the body near the rear passenger wheel. She still runs well, and I handed her down to my daughter for use at college. We are small size people so the seats may fit our stature better and are comfortable. Trying to get a few more years out of both cars. Maintenance at the 10+ year mark and 150-200K miles each is getting pricey, around $2K/year per car, but still good value. I have no doubt that I’ll buy a 3rd when I need to replace one, hoping I’ll be able to find one in good condition. I’m still in disbelief that Honda stopped US production. Thanks, from a Fit fan.
I named mine ASIMO after the Honda Robot. It stands for Advanced Step-in Innovative Mobility. I turned my Honda Fit into a car camper with a Solar Panel roof, a water tank bumper and few other overlanding features. I thought the name "ASIMO" FIT the car well, lol. Rear quarter panel rust is inevitable on Hondas. I have some too :( The rest of the car looks pretty good and I live in the MidWest. :) I was also wondering if the comfort of the seat had something to do with my height. I also spent a few thousand on maintenance at the 100k mile mark. It's been mostly fluid changes and tires in the past so I can't complain. Here's to many more miles in our FIT's!
Thank You Kingsley. I should have the "Repair Bill Video" out by next weekend. I should have another install and repair video out before then. Thank you for watching and sharing my TH-cam channel. :)
@@HondaFit4Adventure You are welcome man. Yes, for sure I'll check those out. I finally got my own Honda Fit mainly because of watching your reviews plus also because of fuel economy.
Had a 2008 Honda fit for 11 years. Loved that car, only got rid of it when it got totaled. Serious hope I can find a good one when my kids start driving.
About the seats: I bought an inflatable lumbar cushion, removed the air bladder, hooked it up to some sturdier (medical grade) piping and air pump (from a blood pressure cuff), unzipped the fabric from the back of the seat-back, and stuffed the air bladder between the springs and the foam. I now have adjustable lumbar support in my Honda Fit, and it looks totally factory (apart from the blood pressure cuff pump protruding from my seat), and combined with the (yes, QUITE expensive, but worth it) seat extenders, I would go so far as to call my Fit…comfortable..? Yeah! It’s comfortable!
I love hearing all the various ways FIT owners have modified their seats. It's the first time I've heard of a setup like yours. Did you follow any TH-cam videos or just personal trial and error?
@@HondaFit4Adventure I started off with just buying the inflatable lumbar cushion, but I wasn’t a fan of how it looked or felt, though it did provide the support in all the right places. And then I remembered my dad’s Explorer Platinum had adjustable lumbar and massage features s which worked by inflating and deflating air bladders inside the seats, and BEHIND the foam. The rest was easy as these cars are hilariously easy to take apart!
Thanks for the informative video! I am in the market for a fun sporty affordable manual car to call my own as I continue in college. I am greatly considering a Honda fit. I am currently using my family's 2015 Cruze with 125,000 miles and it's had some major things done, but they were mostly things I could do in my garage by watching youtube. I am now thinking again on a 3rd gen Honda fit after watching your video. My family also has a 1993 Corolla at 260,000 miles and I want my newer car to be as solid as that car. No engine/trans issues, just wear and tear and sips some oil! Maybe they just don't make them like they used to. My other options I was looking at is a newer Manual Scion TC.
The second generation Honda Fit seems to be the best one. The 3rd generation is great, but does have a few minor issues. The Chevy Cruz can have some issues that are mostly related to the turbo. My aunt is experiencing similar issues with the turbo on her Chevy Trax. Honestly, any car with a turbo scares me maintenance wise. Toyota still seems to be a solid company. I would buy the new Toyota Prius if I wasn't such a big Honda fan. The Scion TC is a great car. My neighbor and coworker both have one with over 200k miles on it.
I own my 3rd gen honda fit for 3 years already, and extremely love my fit cuz it is almost a perfect car for me. 1)Gas economy, 2)compact car size, 3)roomy inside, 4)good horse power for its light weight, 5)super flexible rear seats. I even converted it to a camper car so I can go camping during the weekend and sleep inside my honda fit. Yes, I love camping! I am 5' 7" tall regular size guy, my bed platform is made by 3 pieces of ply wood that can assamble together as a big flat surface, the bottom has a few piece of ply wood legs that is used for hold up and suppoert the bed surface. The bed is leveled at the same height as the armrest box. When I going to sleep, I have to folded the 2 front seats and push them all the way to front, and then I can put the bed all the way to back of the front seats so I can have a maximum space for sleeping inside. As a 5' 7" guy myself, I can lay down straight and sleep very comefortably inside. Since I go camping more and more, there are move and more place I want to go, and I realized that one thing this little buddy can not do, which is lacking of off-road capability, I know that I am asking too much from this guy, but I am such in love with this car, and hoping that if it has AWD, it would be a perfect car for me! However, I am now thinking to switch to a 4X4 or AWD for my next camper car build, do you have any off-road car suggetion that is good to the point 123 that I mentioned above?
I love camping in my Honda Fit too. It could be a little bit longer, but it works. Some Honda Fit owners have put larger tires and the Tema 4x4 kit on their car to give it a 2" lift. I'm a big Honda fan so anything I would recommend would be from the Honda line up. Quite a few come in AWD. I don't think Honda will be making a sprinter van any time soon so I'm hoping for a Hybrid Honda Odyssey.
Lovely video!! I bought my 2015 Honda Fit LX with 0 miles on the odometer, now she has 106k. I've spent a little pretty penny on some much needed 100k+ maintenance, such as valve adjustments, new belts, water pump, etc. But soon I will have to make a commitment on the VTC actuator. There are days when the car makes a loud short rattle sound on a cold start. Interestingly there are days when nothing can be heard. However, I can't keep ignoring it, I still love the car and am not ready to trade it in so I guess I will have to pony up the money for the VTC actuator work. Great video, you have a new subscriber!
Thank you. Did your water pump go bad or did you just replace it at 100k. My mechanic didn't want to touch it if there wasn't an issue...(Shrugs shoulders) The VTC repair is pricey but definitely worth fixing instead of getting a newer car with more "Tech" related issues then mechanical. An infotainment centre went out on a friends vehicle which controlled the seat adjustments and HVAC controls. The dealership quoted $2000 to replace it. We purchased the part online for $800 but still had to take it into the dealer ship after installing because the infotainment centre required programming to talk to the cars computer first. THEY GOT US EITHER WAY :( #RightToRepair
2017 here. 245k miles. I'm just under 6 foot. Drive 8 hours per day. Seat does not create any back issues at all, after it is adjusted perfectly. I think people don't have the patience to do this. Before finding the perfect adjustment, I was having all sorts of back problems, numbness, and leg swelling. I know it is all adjustment related because it was fine for awhile. Then I had the silly idea I could adjust to make it even better. It wrecked it.. had to find the correct adjustment again and then it was fine.. again. Haven't had much of a vtc actuator issue. But it may be very cold temperatures dependent. It doesn't get cold in Southern California..
I've tried adjusting the seat but I haven't been able to find a good position yet. The VTC actuator would still make a noise in the warmer weather if the car sat long enough for most of the oil to drip back into the bottom. My Actuator failed under warranty, and then failed again within 10k miles and past the warranty. I didn't want to spend $1000 on something to fail again. They eventually redesigned the actuator and they seem to last much longer now. It looks like you got the redesign!
@@josemiguelnavarro6205 Does it rattle on the cold start or does it just make noise while idling? A ticking or sewing machine noise is normal at idle. The idling noise is the newer fuel injectors.
I am 5'9 and the seat is incredibly uncomfortable I have no idea what you're on about. I have to have a lumbar support pillow because the seat is so terrible.
My 2015 is 9 years old now and I have never had any issues with the rear hatch latch. A great little car and the engine purrs like a kitten. Never had a problem with seat comfort and have been on a few long trips over the years and I've had lower back problems many times in the last 20 years. But never from driving the Fit!! Don't have the VTC problem either. But thanks for warning us!! One thing though, I could not tell any difference in the sound when starting with the bad actuator or the good actuator!!
I'm sorry. I thought there was a before and after comparison. You can hear it on the start up in this video th-cam.com/video/aWd-F-dYLnw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=G4cJwGdTvu0cL5XK&t=307
Agree about the seats, i have 25mm memory foam on the back and 50mm memory foam on the seat, both are in pillow cases. Makes a huge difference, just cut a rectangle to size from an old memory mattress topper
I will definitely try this out. I'm going to make my own mattress for the back of the Fit instead of using my rock climbing pad to sleep on. I should have plenty of foam left over to make seat cushions.
I got a brand new blue Honda Fit 2020 with 7 miles on it. Paint is gorgeous ❤. The trunk works perfect with many uses during the week ❤. No leaks, especially where the hood meets the car, that area is well integrated with a seem less seem ❤. No issues with leg room ❤. I’m in my car for 3 1/2 hrs daily never noticed anything wrong with seat comfort ❤. Actually I must have a good seal or something I just hear regular road noise no difference from my husband’s Honda Accord ❤. Conclusion I love my cute 🥰 Fit. It’s easy and user friendly to drive. Love how simple and small it is ❤
May I ask how tall you are? Maybe my height has something to do with the seat comfort. I just hear the regular road noise as well, lol. Here's to many miles in our Honda Fits!
Looking into getting this car. As someone who has owned a small hatchback prior (Kia soul) I feel like road noise just comes with having a smaller vehicle.
I have a 2019 fit. On cold starts I had a VTC actuator noise. I bought it certified pre-owned from Honda so they replaced it for free but the Recipt would’ve been super expensive otherwise
Thanks for the info. Another 2019 Honda Fit owner commented that they were at 100,000 miles and thankfully haven't experienced this yet. My Actuator was also replaced under the warranty but failed again within 10,000 miles and it was no longer covered under the warranty. I didn't want to spend a $1000+ on something that was going to break within a year. I know at some point the actuator was redesigned so it will last a lot longer than the previous version.
@@HondaFit4Adventure My 2017 Honda Fit had the VTC actuator replaced around 55K under warranty. Unfortunately, at 110K it is failing again so whether under warranty or not likelihood of VTC failure is present.
2016 EX here. I started hearing the rattling about 9 months ago. Researched in FitFreak site. Some guy said he got a discount from Honda of America. So I reached out to my local dealership. Even though I did not by directly from them (bought it used from another small time dealer), and it was just over the recall mileage/ or I think they said it didn’t apply for some other odd reason, they eventually paid for the replacement in total, sans the initial diagnostic fee ($250). Otherwise, they quoted me near $2k. But, sometimes I swear I can hear it starting to rattle again. In fact, I had also read someone else saying how they had gotten there’s replaced, but the problem quickly returned anyway 😕
My Actuator went out and it was replaced under the warranty. It failed again within 10k miles and was no longer covered by the warranty. I wasn't going to spend $1000 on something to fail within in a year again. There should be a newer redesigned Actuator on the market that most dealerships should be using by now. Something about the pin that engages the solenoid has been machined different so it should last a lot longer. The Actuator replacement bill should be right around $1000. If the bill was $2000 they most likely replaced the chain and rollers as they will become damaged over time if the actuator is not fixed "Ask me how I know" My fingers are crossed that you got one of the newer Actuators and your just hearing your exhaust shield occasionally vibrate.
Planning to get one soon but I'm based in Southeast Asia. I've sold these units back in 2012-2013. The Honda Jazz (called in Southeast Asia) is the best selling unit when I was still in the automotive industry. Subbed so I can follow along the maintenance process!
Man my 2018 Honda Fit Ex got totaled on 6/6/23 on my way to a gig in Utah… Luckily I survived in one piece. So I ended up buying a new 2023 CR-V Hybrid Sport. But I do miss my Fit 😢
We still have our 2017 Fit and no plans to get rid of it. We've had no problems at all. I guess it was too cheap to keep selling a car no one wants to get rid of.
I learned the hard way to never get rid of a running vehicle.... If you have a car that has proven itself to be reliable and you like it, never get rid of it. I had a car that was reliable but I gave it away when moving and my truck immediately started having problems and I regretted getting rid of my car so much...
Just did a 2000+ mi on my 2015 Fit(Manual) from Seattle to Yellowstone and back, on the way back did 700 mi in one sit. I agree with most of the things excepting the seats, maybe cause I'm a short guy. I would also recommend to get a hand rest for long drives, I got a removable one from amazon for 30$.
Nice, I did NY to LA in almost one sitting. (The Battery Died in Colorado) th-cam.com/video/oXnDHWhuaNA/w-d-xo.html I have heard of the hand rest modification but its usually for the 1rst and 2nd generation Honda Fits since they don't have a centre console at all. Do you have a link for the one you purchased? I'd like to check that out.
I have a used 2016 Fit. I have experienced the rear hatch handle issue. I discovered "unlocking" twice with the fob to het theloud noixe of unlocking to work every time. I will keep an ear out, for the cold start issue, and tire well rust.
Thanks for making this video. I own a 2016 and I’ve mentioned the VTC sound to the dealer plenty of times who say they don’t hear anything on a cold start. I welcome any advice from anyone on how to proceed.
I would record yourself starting your car in the morning and show the video to the dealership. I think I would have wait and have the car shut off for at least 4 hours for it to make the rattle again. It could take a bit longer in warmer weather.
When a dealer gives me the "oh they all do that" run-around, I find a similar car, compare them, then ask what's wrong with that other one that does not have my problem. Harder to do now they stopped selling the Fit, but a Civic might be close enough. Also, yes, definitely record the sound. You can go to another dealer, contact Honda regional office, or if need be, pay for an independent mechanic to diagnose the problem. I once had to do that last one (not with Honda), then I brought the paperwork to the service manager at the dealer and asked to speak with his boss. Of course the higher boss was unavailable, but that was my opening to say "this is my final good faith attempt to get this resolved through your dealership." I thanked the service manager by name for his time, and told him to put his company's response in writing, and let's make an appointment to have the problem fixed under warranty. My casual non-confrontational attitude made it clear that my visit was just so I could claim I'd tried everything. They did fix the problem. They did not pay my diag costs at the other mechanic. That was good enough for me.
You're absolutely right about the pearl white paint! I'm barely hitting 50,000 miles on my 2015 Fit, and the paint has already started to chip on my roof!
I have a few paint chips as well, but only where the windshield and roof come together. I'm going to assume it's from all the tollway driving and not the paint recall (Fingers Crossed)
Thanks for the video, I didn't know about the actuator and I think that once on my FIT it made a strange sound when starting but I didn't pay attention to it, and it hasn't done it again, I can hear it more every morning
I would monitor how your FIT sounds on the morning startup. It could be a loose exhaust shield but it's most likely the actuator if it's only happening in the morning. :(
This was very insightful. I have to say for my 2015 ex the only repair I had to do besides shocks, spark plugs was the push start button that failed at approx 3 yrs old. It was around $300, but once Honda finally did a recall 2 yrs later I gave them my receipt and hot a full refund! I find the General tires worked best for me, my tire light never goes on except after rotation. I have had sort tires and that light would always come on. I will be inspecting my trunk. Thanks for the info, will be watching for the next video. Keep up the good work!!
Thank You Marge! I have the LX (Base Model) So no push start for me. I'm glad you were able to get reimbursed through the recall. Lol, No TPS light issues for me either :) My rear hatch struts just quit working, so look forward to that replacement video too :)
This past Saturday had to get new brakes and rotors. I was on metal to metal with no warning except steering wheel shaking. Back breaks cleaned and adjusted... wait for it.. $700..I'm done..lol
There is a safety button inside the locking mechanism by using a flat screwdriver. You will see a small cover you have to open with the screwdriver then flick the button and it will open the trunk
I believe what you're referring to is only on the 1st and 2nd generation Honda Fits. The 3rd generation no longer has the access panel to get to the button or cable. :(
@@shellogee Ok, that makes sense. They must have removed that access panel on the 3rd generation U.S. models. :( The dealerships probably wanted more repair money.
Currently waiting on my warranty paint repair to be done. Apparently when they do this it’s extremely common for the windshield to break when they remove it to repaint the areas around the top edge of the windshield, so I’m getting a new windshield too!!
The windshield is glued to the frame of the car. I can see how it could possibly break if they tried to remove it. I'm surprised they went that far to repaint everything.
I find the seats quite comfortable in my 2011 Honda Jazz. I prefer to have seat set higher and I'm almost as tall as you. I've done a few long journeys and no back issues.
I haven't had a chance to sit in an older Honda Fit yet but the seat issues don't seem to come up as much for the older generations. It must be a 3rd gen thing...
That's a great idea. All of the seat extenders or sliders that I see online just mention the seat sliding backwards an extra few inches. They never really mention the seat being able to slide forward so I'll have to give them a call.
Agreed. I was going to bring up the CVT but since my car was a manual I had no personal experience in dealing with the Automatic transmission. I heard the CVT transmission isn't the greatest in general, no matter what car its in.
The complaints on the uncomfortable seat is bewildering to me. I thru and thru never think about my seat because it is such an enjoyable ride. I only wish there was a design feature that allowed you to raise the middle console for better arm rest ability. Other than that such a great vehicle! I have a 2017 and have had a 2015 as well. Neither was bad for me. Sore backs to me is normal. The road noise was improved in the 2017. I think for a hatch it has great sound insulation!
May I ask how tall you are? Maybe it's a height related issue? The Honda Fit was the cheapest car in the Honda line-up. I wouldn't expect it to have the best seats or sound quality, lol. Overall its still a great car!
2nd gen owner and mine is dry in the back hatch has gotten stuck a few times. Other than that its pretty solid got it for a good price and have had it for a few years.
@@HondaFit4Adventure Sad :( Trying to do some paint fixes, vetter than nothing, protects against rust but doesn't look great as I'm an amateur. I should've taken it in red or blue
@@giovannipomarico2035 Lol, same. I attempted to fix the rust on my Fits rear quarter panels. The first side came out like sh1t, but hasn't rusted since. The other side came out near prefect, but rusted again. Ill try to fix the one side again before winter.
My apologies. I may have inserted the wrong clip of the failing VTC actuator. You can hear what a bad one sounds like here @5:05 th-cam.com/video/aWd-F-dYLnw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xOw6UNs_tmMvNKXJ&t=305
I'd say any color except the black - mine's like a little oven if it so much as sees the sun on the horizon, and the fan doesn't cool the car at all (even on a cool day), only air con does.
My sister bought a 2015 honda fit. The next day it made the rattle noise on cold start. Took back to the dealership and it end up being the actuator and dealer said its just normal wear and tear and there was nothing they can do about it. Not even a full day they had the car.
Did she buy the car new or used? The worse part about the car being used is that you don't know how long the VTC actuator has been faulty for, potentially causing more damage.
Great video. Watching this because I’m here in Canada looking for my first car and found a 2015 Honda Fit manual with 140K kilometres or 87K miles. He is asking Canadian $7500 which is USD $5500. Now I’m thinking if I should get it or not. 🙂
@@Calicoegg When you go to start the car, make sure a blue indicator light comes up on the dashboard. This will let you know that its a cold start. If you don't see the blue light after starting the car, then the car was previously started and or driven. The actuator will not rattle if the car is warmed up.
Another problem, the starter motor has a short life. This is a problem on my 2015 Fit EX model, might apply to others. The starter motor solenoid is built into the motor and was assembled improperly cause the solenoid contacts to burn through prematurely. The fix is a new starter motor for about $250 or 31210-5G0-A01 Holder Set, Brush for $33. The brushes and commutator were fine on mine but the solenoid contacts, which are part of the brush holder set, were burned badly. YT has a lot of videos about replacing the starter motor and a few about how to replace the brush set. I saved about $900 doing it myself in about 2 hours on the garage floor.
Hi Gary, I've been going through all of my Honda Fit repair bills and it looks like I had my starter replaced at 35,405 miles, just before the warranty ended. I haven't heard of to many others with starter problems, so maybe it was just the first year of the 3rd gen Honda Fits with that issue?
Lots of people suppose the commutator or brushes but I found the contacts on the solenoid burned up. The contact is basically just a thick copper washer with teeth on one half that engage a fixed toothed copper plate. If the teeth on the washer contact the teeth on the plate then they burn out quickly. The washer should be oriented for the teeth to contact the smooth part of the plate and vice versa. There should have been a flat on the solenoid plunger and correspondingly on the washer to insure that the washer could not be mounted backwards. Maybe Mitsuba fixed this on later models or American Honda is just ignoring it like the VTC actuator problem, both of which I am experienced. The VTC problem is destroying the value of my car so I guess I will keep it until death do us part. BTW - The starter problem starts out as an intermittent issue and fails completely eventually. @@HondaFit4Adventure
What seat did he go with? I found out that an 08? Civic Si seat will work in a Honda Fit, while still keeping the airbag functional. (Driver Side Only) I'll probably pick up a set and figure out the passenger side.
will that vtc actuator cause damage to the engine? its a fairly common problem with hondas and ive seen people say they have it under 10k miles and some others say that they replace it and the problem comes back. it makes me wonder if its really a problem that causes internal damage because this engine is very reliable and easily reaches over 300k miles for what ive seen
1.) Yes. If the VVT actuator or solenoid is not fixed right away or as soon as possible it will eventually stretch the timing chain. Once the timing chain is stretched it will start chewing out the teeth on the guide rollers. If the teeth on the guide rollers are damaged enough the chain can skip entirely and cause some serious damage to the motor. 2.) I'm not a mechanic, but I believe if the VVT actuator or solenoid is not working correctly it will starve some engine components of oil. The lack of oil will produce heat which will lead to the stretch of the timing chain. 3.) Yes the Actuator or Solenoid is a common but fixable problem. If fixed right away it's only about $300 to fix and you're good for another 50-100k miles. 4.) My VVT originally failed and was replaced under the warranty. The new one installed by Honda under warranty failed within 10k miles (Just like you've read) and I chose not to have it replaced which lead to bigger problems down the road. I think there was a bad batch of VVT actuators or solenoids for a year or so because the new ones seem to last. Conclusion. Yes the L series motor is super reliable and capable or reaching up to 300k miles. Instead of timing belts we now have timing chains. Instead of changing a belt every 50-100k miles, we now have to change out the VVT every 50-100k instead. If the VVT is changed accordingly, the engine should capable of reaching that mileage.
I've had the VTC rattle for almost a year... It now sounds horrible. You mentioned if you don't fix it it will damage some other stuff. What else does this damage? I thought the rattle was just a nuisance but didn't affect anything mechanically speaking 😅
It eventually leads to slack in the timing chain. The slack in the timing chain will eventually start wearing out the teeth on the guide rollers etc. You should be able to take it to a mechanic and have them tell you if needs fixing right away or you can wait awhile based on the slack if any that's measured on the chain. I went 30k miles before getting mine fixed (Don't do that!) I went to start the car one day and the cold start rattle sounded very different. That's when I finally had it fixed and got the big repair bill. I wish it was as simple as an exhaust shield rattle.
I’m driving a 2011, 2nd gen, Fit Sport with 125,000 miles. Never had any major problems, except recently when it started making a grinding noise upon starting when temp is below 50 F. Any suggestions? Thanks. I can’t believe Honda replaced the Fit with the HRV. Bad move, especially with a CVT. I see advertising for a 2025 Fit, but it’s not available in the USA. It looks like a CGI clip, so it may be fake.
I would definitely go get that checked out. It sounds like that VVT actuator or solenoid going bad. If not fixed right away, it can cause more expensive problems. If you drive around for a while, and then restart the car does it still make the noise or does it go away?
I just purchased a 2015 Fit EX, manual with 59,000 miles. Ive read alot about the vtc actuator on these. Is there a average milage that this tends to happen or is it something thats random at any time say from 20k to 120k and beyond?
It seems to happen randomly for most people. Does your Fit rattle on a cold start? If not, I'd say it was probably replaced already based on your mileage. Based on my research... There was a few years where the VTC actuators being made were crap. Honda redesigned them or sourced them from a different company, so the new VTC actuators seem to last.
No. My guesses... A. Check the seal around your door frame. Make sure it's pushed down all the way and there's no lumps. B. Look at the passenger side firewall in the engine bay. See if the big rubber grommet is pushed into place. C. Your new windshield may not be attached properly.
Hey brother great videos 😀 I just wanted to give some friendly advise. If you're planning to sleep over your electronic with power running through them, you need to insulate yourself from the dirty electric fields that run off the circuits. Because these can have detrimental effects on your health and brain. Peace man all the best.
Are you talking about EMF? I have read that about things like electric blankets. A charging MacBook probably puts off more EMF then my Milk Crate full of USB ports.
At first I didn't like the 4th generation Honda Fit. I thought it looked ugly. I changed my mind after seeing one close up. It looks way better in person.
I feel that. My timing chain replacement could have been avoided if I knew what that cold start rattle was and what damage it would cause long term, lol. Live & learn.
No it does not. Even my chain rollers were damaged and it still didn't throw a code. I drove approximately 30k miles with a bad VTC. One day the cold start rattle sounded quite different than normal, that's when I finally took it in to go get fixed. Hopefully you have a good relationship with a mechanic. I was told they can monitor the slack in the chain and let you know if it needs to be fixed right away or if you'll be able to drive a few more thousand miles with out causing any extra damage.
The Rims are Sparco Terra 16x7. www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&wheelMake=Sparco+All-Terrain&wheelModel=Terra&wheelFinish=Black+Painted&autoMake=Honda&autoModel=Fit&autoYear=2015&autoModClar=LX The Tires are Riken Raptor 205/55/16 www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?gclid=Cj0KCQjwiIOmBhDjARIsAP6YhSWXyf5tygBbU7yeT4vqJ5oHHVTSkzNVrmfB-Lm5NYzHQAj3wJOxxfoaAtSdEALw_wcB&tireMake=Riken&tireModel=Raptor+ZR+A%2FS&partnum=055WR6RZRASXL&GCID=C13674x012-tire&KEYWORD=tires.jsp_Riken_Raptor+ZR+A%2FS_Tire&code=yes&ef_id=Cj0KCQjwiIOmBhDjARIsAP6YhSWXyf5tygBbU7yeT4vqJ5oHHVTSkzNVrmfB-Lm5NYzHQAj3wJOxxfoaAtSdEALw_wcB:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!3756!3!!!!x!!&gclsrc=aw.ds Here's a link to the install video. th-cam.com/video/wn21IUFnlTQ/w-d-xo.html
I found a way to extend your seat about 2" for free. This helped out a little bit. th-cam.com/video/D_cX5iAHSoY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=EE8DZOyoszD9MYo0 I also found some seat risers on Amazon. I'm going to try those out on my next trip.
I though my matrix seats werent that comfortable but I only start to notice it after about 12 hours on the road so I guess ill stop saying they suck lol
I bought a 20 EX Fit and in 3 years had to replace the total rear axle assembly. In 23 last year I wanted a 23 Accord EX. I had 8200 equity. In Texas, my insurance was going up 445 on the Accord. 440 more on a Civic. The lowest increase of 235 was the 24 HRV EXL. Since the new HRV is the Civic platform I bought it. I dumped that Fit. The seats are not comfortable either and I was dying in the fit after 30 minutes driving
Woah, you had to replace the whole rear axle assembly?! What happened? Insurance has gone up everywhere. It's unfortunate, but we end up paying for the accidents caused by uninsured motorists, as seen in my Colorado video. th-cam.com/video/gYsBSl5w7z0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=f4g6FaPcLPH2soth Although the HRV is built on a Civic frame, it is more related to the FIT build platform. I agree, the seats are terrible. It was the first thing I noticed when test driving the car. I found a free way to extend the seats back by two more inches. This seems to help out a bit. th-cam.com/video/D_cX5iAHSoY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BAxUlOh5HS5PCP_q Good Luck on your future endeavors with the Honda Civic. Don't forget to add a catch can.
@@HondaFit4Adventure I drove over a small piece of wood block in the highway I could not avoid. The dealer was like well if you had a multi link suspension like the civic or accord we could just adjust. Torsion bar you have to replace the whole thing
@@BecauseJapan NGL, After going on my test drive, I was a bit concerned about not having enough leg room. I felt there needed to be an extra inch or two to stretch out comfortably. Although it was a concern, I still purchased the car and could not be happier. Good Luck!
2014 Fit with white peeling paint. its a disgrace that they can go so wrong with their paint job. my dad's 2006 Toyota Yaris that never gest washed has paint in better shape. as to leg room for tall people and discomfort.... your legs are too long for the low seat, pushing your knees up high and therefore driving your tailbone and sit bones into the seat. so all your weight is taken in a small area, rather than distributing your weight over your buttocks and thighs. Ive added a 2 inch foam cushion or sometimes I have a 3 inch Roho Mosaic cushion (often used in wheelchairs and about $125 canadian on Amazon). But Im only 5'10" with 33 inch inseam legs.
It appears that a lot of Honda vehicles (New and Old) have the same issue with the white pearl paint. I don't understand why they can't correct the paint issue either. Thank you for the seat cushion recommendation. I will have to look into that. In the meantime, I figured out how to extend the seat 2" further back for free. It definitely helps a little bit th-cam.com/video/D_cX5iAHSoY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=M4nhkBk875TcP-D2
My 2018 Honda Fit about to go into the shop for a metallic noise it keeps making. I thought Honda made good cars. It only has 90k miles and yet it making this stupid noise. Just stick with Toyota folks. Never had such issues. Never buying a car in such a cheap segment either. No wonder all these cars are being axed from the market. I really regret buying such a car and have very little hope it will last long. I was blinded by what I thought would be a fun car and reliability. No. The back seat is already broken on me. So no magic seats. The aeats are terrible. The build quality is lacking as well. Also it is incredibly unsafe. I will 100% die in any accident.
I hope it's just an exhaust shield and not your VTC actuator. The re-introduction of the Honda Civic hatch is what killed the sales of the Honda Fit and why it was discontinued in the U.S. market. The seats are terrible but I haven't heard of any one having problems with the rear seat. What is broken on the back seat? The bolts, the folding bar, or the locking mechanism? I like taking the FIT apart to make How/To & repair videos. Let me know what broke and I'll see what I can do. The Honda Fit has a 5 star safety rating, but I must say a lot of damage is done to the car if you're ever rear ended. The rear bumper/crash bar sits lower than most cars front bumper hight. So even a rear end collision at low speeds will not only damage your rear bumper, but your trunk as well. $$$ Toyotas are nice :) th-cam.com/video/oYCMPVxxt7o/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mKCOmMFotnpboZui&t=43
@HondaFit4Adventure The rear seat on the passenger side no longer folds down. It still does the magic bit and folds up. But the traditional fold down doesn't work. You click the latch and nothing happens. It seems to be a problem on several Honda models and a pain to fix. I would be interested to see you make a video.
@@HondaFit4Adventure It was a RH Axle Heat shield and the bushings on the mounts collapsed. While the mechanics were down there they showed me a oil leak as well. Seriously this is ridiculous. It is a 5 year old car with 90k miles. Really expected better from Honda with maintenance records. If I wanted a American or German car ownership experience I would have gone with them. Absolutely no excuse.
@@baronvonjo1929 I have never heard of this issue, but after doing some research it does seem to be a fairly common issue on the Fit, CRV and a few other Hondas that share the same latch. I haven't experienced this problem and my rear seats have been removed from the car, but I will take a look at the latch Mechanism and the other TH-cam videos online diagnosing the problem and come up with my own video.
@@baronvonjo1929 If your Axle bushing collapsed, that is the oil from the Axle seal and not an oil leak from the motor. I don't have the full details or pictures to look at but a leaking axle seal at 90k miles is just wear and tear.
Second generation Honda Fit's seem to be the best. I might be picking up a first generation for a Lemon's Rally or some other type of cheap cross country rally event.
change the spark plugs and tell me if they were even finger tight. worst engine in the world. what other engine in a lawn mower, motorcycle, or car unscrews its own spark plugs. Honda knows about it and still sells the car.
Hi Jay. I have heard about this issue. I'm not sure when, but Honda did end up changing the torque spec on the plugs from 15ftlbs to 20ftlbs. This seems to have fixed that issue, but is still worth noting.
You're right. The Honda Fit is an economy car. It is not made for comfort or luxury. What other car prices in 2015 are you comparing it to? It seemed about average to me.
I purchased my Honda Fit sport 16 years ago. It was made in Japan. I never had problems with seats causing back pain. I am in my 70s.
It could be a 3rd generation Fit or Height related issue.
Bring the fit back honda
For real...
How about a Hybrid Honda Odyssey?
Honda: With the new 2024 Honda Odyssey, you can now change the HVAC controls through your phone....
(Nobody asked for this)
Agreed! Current owner of an '07 Fit. 250,000 miles, all stock, non-molested and still running strong. I ordered an armrest console kit because 1st gen Fits didnt come with an armrest. I still take mine on 10-15 hour road trips on top of traveling 80 miles round trip daily to work from Riverdale, GA to Roswell, GA via GA-400. Never broke down on me. Always have gotten me from point A to B.
Agreed. The HRV is awful in comparison.
Hasn't gone anywhere just isn't sold in the US
HRV, more or less
Spot on, 2015 EX here, and every point is spot on. Major takeaways are the VTC actuator and avoiding the white paint. Avoid the white at all costs. One thing I’d add is the fuel rail went bad on mine and luckily was replaced under warranty. If the fuel rail goes bad and you have a bad VTC actuator. Definitely take advantage of the warranty and use that labor saved to replace the actuator. Also not really a fit thing but the keylight will intermittently turn on if you have a remote fab. Still love this car a lot.
A few people brought up the "Push Button Start Recall" in the comments.
I have the base model FIT so I only wanted to mention things that I could relate too.
Yours is manual too right? I've heard mixed reviews about CVT transmission. I think the CVT transmissions are just bad in general, no matter what car they're in.
I have two Fits, 2009 Sport Blackberry and 2013 Base Silver. We are so attached to our old cars and have named them Penelope and Sylvia. You are right on, the latches on both have busted or frozen up. Penelope 2009 has considerable rusting on the body near the rear passenger wheel. She still runs well, and I handed her down to my daughter for use at college. We are small size people so the seats may fit our stature better and are comfortable. Trying to get a few more years out of both cars. Maintenance at the 10+ year mark and 150-200K miles each is getting pricey, around $2K/year per car, but still good value. I have no doubt that I’ll buy a 3rd when I need to replace one, hoping I’ll be able to find one in good condition. I’m still in disbelief that Honda stopped US production. Thanks, from a Fit fan.
I named mine ASIMO after the Honda Robot. It stands for Advanced Step-in Innovative Mobility.
I turned my Honda Fit into a car camper with a Solar Panel roof, a water tank bumper and few other overlanding features. I thought the name "ASIMO" FIT the car well, lol.
Rear quarter panel rust is inevitable on Hondas. I have some too :( The rest of the car looks pretty good and I live in the MidWest. :)
I was also wondering if the comfort of the seat had something to do with my height.
I also spent a few thousand on maintenance at the 100k mile mark. It's been mostly fluid changes and tires in the past so I can't complain.
Here's to many more miles in our FIT's!
A couple of my friends are looking into getting a GK Fit. I'm sending this video to them.
Thank You! 🙌 #TheFitIsGo
I showed my brother your videos, he went crazy. I know he’s gonna love this one too.
Thank You Kingsley. I should have the "Repair Bill Video" out by next weekend.
I should have another install and repair video out before then.
Thank you for watching and sharing my TH-cam channel. :)
@@HondaFit4Adventure You are welcome man.
Yes, for sure I'll check those out. I finally got my own Honda Fit mainly because of watching your reviews plus also because of fuel economy.
@@thegreatkizo Enjoy Brother!
Had a 2008 Honda fit for 11 years. Loved that car, only got rid of it when it got totaled. Serious hope I can find a good one when my kids start driving.
I'm sure they'll still be around.
Hopefully they'll be brought back :)
Ive got a white '18 EX manual with paint peeling, thank you so much for adding value to my ownership with this nugget.
You're welcome :)
I have a 2017 and the warranty was extended through 2023. Perhaps your warranty extends through 2024?
@@mattmccallum2879 that's a great tip, I'll look into that thank you!
About the seats: I bought an inflatable lumbar cushion, removed the air bladder, hooked it up to some sturdier (medical grade) piping and air pump (from a blood pressure cuff), unzipped the fabric from the back of the seat-back, and stuffed the air bladder between the springs and the foam. I now have adjustable lumbar support in my Honda Fit, and it looks totally factory (apart from the blood pressure cuff pump protruding from my seat), and combined with the (yes, QUITE expensive, but worth it) seat extenders, I would go so far as to call my Fit…comfortable..? Yeah! It’s comfortable!
I love hearing all the various ways FIT owners have modified their seats.
It's the first time I've heard of a setup like yours. Did you follow any TH-cam videos or just personal trial and error?
@@HondaFit4Adventure I started off with just buying the inflatable lumbar cushion, but I wasn’t a fan of how it looked or felt, though it did provide the support in all the right places. And then I remembered my dad’s Explorer Platinum had adjustable lumbar and massage features s which worked by inflating and deflating air bladders inside the seats, and BEHIND the foam. The rest was easy as these cars are hilariously easy to take apart!
Thanks for the informative video! I am in the market for a fun sporty affordable manual car to call my own as I continue in college. I am greatly considering a Honda fit. I am currently using my family's 2015 Cruze with 125,000 miles and it's had some major things done, but they were mostly things I could do in my garage by watching youtube. I am now thinking again on a 3rd gen Honda fit after watching your video. My family also has a 1993 Corolla at 260,000 miles and I want my newer car to be as solid as that car. No engine/trans issues, just wear and tear and sips some oil! Maybe they just don't make them like they used to. My other options I was looking at is a newer Manual Scion TC.
The second generation Honda Fit seems to be the best one. The 3rd generation is great, but does have a few minor issues.
The Chevy Cruz can have some issues that are mostly related to the turbo. My aunt is experiencing similar issues with the turbo on her Chevy Trax. Honestly, any car with a turbo scares me maintenance wise.
Toyota still seems to be a solid company. I would buy the new Toyota Prius if I wasn't such a big Honda fan.
The Scion TC is a great car. My neighbor and coworker both have one with over 200k miles on it.
I own my 3rd gen honda fit for 3 years already, and extremely love my fit cuz it is almost a perfect car for me.
1)Gas economy,
2)compact car size,
3)roomy inside,
4)good horse power for its light weight,
5)super flexible rear seats.
I even converted it to a camper car so I can go camping during the weekend and sleep inside my honda fit. Yes, I love camping! I am 5' 7" tall regular size guy, my bed platform is made by 3 pieces of ply wood that can assamble together as a big flat surface, the bottom has a few piece of ply wood legs that is used for hold up and suppoert the bed surface. The bed is leveled at the same height as the armrest box. When I going to sleep, I have to folded the 2 front seats and push them all the way to front, and then I can put the bed all the way to back of the front seats so I can have a maximum space for sleeping inside. As a 5' 7" guy myself, I can lay down straight and sleep very comefortably inside.
Since I go camping more and more, there are move and more place I want to go, and I realized that one thing this little buddy can not do, which is lacking of off-road capability, I know that I am asking too much from this guy, but I am such in love with this car, and hoping that if it has AWD, it would be a perfect car for me! However, I am now thinking to switch to a 4X4 or AWD for my next camper car build, do you have any off-road car suggetion that is good to the point 123 that I mentioned above?
I love camping in my Honda Fit too. It could be a little bit longer, but it works.
Some Honda Fit owners have put larger tires and the Tema 4x4 kit on their car to give it a 2" lift.
I'm a big Honda fan so anything I would recommend would be from the Honda line up. Quite a few come in AWD.
I don't think Honda will be making a sprinter van any time soon so I'm hoping for a Hybrid Honda Odyssey.
@@HondaFit4Adventure thank you for your advice!
Lovely video!! I bought my 2015 Honda Fit LX with 0 miles on the odometer, now she has 106k. I've spent a little pretty penny on some much needed 100k+ maintenance, such as valve adjustments, new belts, water pump, etc. But soon I will have to make a commitment on the VTC actuator. There are days when the car makes a loud short rattle sound on a cold start. Interestingly there are days when nothing can be heard. However, I can't keep ignoring it, I still love the car and am not ready to trade it in so I guess I will have to pony up the money for the VTC actuator work. Great video, you have a new subscriber!
Thank you. Did your water pump go bad or did you just replace it at 100k.
My mechanic didn't want to touch it if there wasn't an issue...(Shrugs shoulders)
The VTC repair is pricey but definitely worth fixing instead of getting a newer car with more "Tech" related issues then mechanical.
An infotainment centre went out on a friends vehicle which controlled the seat adjustments and HVAC controls. The dealership quoted $2000 to replace it. We purchased the part online for $800 but still had to take it into the dealer ship after installing because the infotainment centre required programming to talk to the cars computer first.
THEY GOT US EITHER WAY :( #RightToRepair
2017 here. 245k miles. I'm just under 6 foot. Drive 8 hours per day.
Seat does not create any back issues at all, after it is adjusted perfectly. I think people don't have the patience to do this. Before finding the perfect adjustment, I was having all sorts of back problems, numbness, and leg swelling. I know it is all adjustment related because it was fine for awhile. Then I had the silly idea I could adjust to make it even better. It wrecked it.. had to find the correct adjustment again and then it was fine.. again.
Haven't had much of a vtc actuator issue. But it may be very cold temperatures dependent. It doesn't get cold in Southern California..
I've tried adjusting the seat but I haven't been able to find a good position yet.
The VTC actuator would still make a noise in the warmer weather if the car sat long enough for most of the oil to drip back into the bottom.
My Actuator failed under warranty, and then failed again within 10k miles and past the warranty. I didn't want to spend $1000 on something to fail again.
They eventually redesigned the actuator and they seem to last much longer now.
It looks like you got the redesign!
My VTC actuator is replaced by the new updated one, but it still rattles, less than the old one but tracheal. is it detrimental to the timing chain?
@@josemiguelnavarro6205 Does it rattle on the cold start or does it just make noise while idling? A ticking or sewing machine noise is normal at idle. The idling noise is the newer fuel injectors.
I am 5'9 and the seat is incredibly uncomfortable I have no idea what you're on about. I have to have a lumbar support pillow because the seat is so terrible.
@@HondaFit4Adventure It only rattles with a cold engine, I'm worried this could affect the timing chain.
This is such an important video to have on the internet, I wish every car had a video like this.
Thank You!
My 2015 is 9 years old now and I have never had any issues with the rear hatch latch. A great little car and the engine purrs like a kitten. Never had a problem with seat comfort and have been on a few long trips over the years and I've had lower back problems many times in the last 20 years. But never from driving the Fit!! Don't have the VTC problem either. But thanks for warning us!! One thing though, I could not tell any difference in the sound when starting with the bad actuator or the good actuator!!
I'm sorry. I thought there was a before and after comparison. You can hear it on the start up in this video th-cam.com/video/aWd-F-dYLnw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=G4cJwGdTvu0cL5XK&t=307
Agree about the seats, i have 25mm memory foam on the back and 50mm memory foam on the seat, both are in pillow cases. Makes a huge difference, just cut a rectangle to size from an old memory mattress topper
I will definitely try this out. I'm going to make my own mattress for the back of the Fit instead of using my rock climbing pad to sleep on. I should have plenty of foam left over to make seat cushions.
I got a brand new blue Honda Fit 2020 with 7 miles on it. Paint is gorgeous ❤. The trunk works perfect with many uses during the week ❤. No leaks, especially where the hood meets the car, that area is well integrated with a seem less seem ❤. No issues with leg room ❤. I’m in my car for 3 1/2 hrs daily never noticed anything wrong with seat comfort ❤. Actually I must have a good seal or something I just hear regular road noise no difference from my husband’s Honda Accord ❤. Conclusion I love my cute 🥰 Fit. It’s easy and user friendly to drive. Love how simple and small it is ❤
May I ask how tall you are? Maybe my height has something to do with the seat comfort.
I just hear the regular road noise as well, lol.
Here's to many miles in our Honda Fits!
I’m 5”6
Looking into getting this car. As someone who has owned a small hatchback prior (Kia soul) I feel like road noise just comes with having a smaller vehicle.
I have a 2019 fit. On cold starts I had a VTC actuator noise. I bought it certified pre-owned from Honda so they replaced it for free but the Recipt would’ve been super expensive otherwise
Thanks for the info. Another 2019 Honda Fit owner commented that they were at 100,000 miles and thankfully haven't experienced this yet.
My Actuator was also replaced under the warranty but failed again within 10,000 miles and it was no longer covered under the warranty. I didn't want to spend a $1000+ on something that was going to break within a year.
I know at some point the actuator was redesigned so it will last a lot longer than the previous version.
@@HondaFit4Adventure My 2017 Honda Fit had the VTC actuator replaced around 55K under warranty. Unfortunately, at 110K it is failing again so whether under warranty or not likelihood of VTC failure is present.
@@baylordelrosario1465 I'm sorry to hear that. You have time, but it's best to get it repaired asap. The good news is, the newer VTC's seem to last...
2016 EX here. I started hearing the rattling about 9 months ago. Researched in FitFreak site. Some guy said he got a discount from Honda of America. So I reached out to my local dealership. Even though I did not by directly from them (bought it used from another small time dealer), and it was just over the recall mileage/ or I think they said it didn’t apply for some other odd reason, they eventually paid for the replacement in total, sans the initial diagnostic fee ($250). Otherwise, they quoted me near $2k.
But, sometimes I swear I can hear it starting to rattle again. In fact, I had also read someone else saying how they had gotten there’s replaced, but the problem quickly returned anyway 😕
My Actuator went out and it was replaced under the warranty.
It failed again within 10k miles and was no longer covered by the warranty. I wasn't going to spend $1000 on something to fail within in a year again.
There should be a newer redesigned Actuator on the market that most dealerships should be using by now. Something about the pin that engages the solenoid has been machined different so it should last a lot longer.
The Actuator replacement bill should be right around $1000. If the bill was $2000 they most likely replaced the chain and rollers as they will become damaged over time if the actuator is not fixed "Ask me how I know"
My fingers are crossed that you got one of the newer Actuators and your just hearing your exhaust shield occasionally vibrate.
Planning to get one soon but I'm based in Southeast Asia. I've sold these units back in 2012-2013. The Honda Jazz (called in Southeast Asia) is the best selling unit when I was still in the automotive industry. Subbed so I can follow along the maintenance process!
Awesome! Yeah, it's called Honda Jazz almost everywhere but in North America.
I wish the Hybrid model was available in the States.
Man my 2018 Honda Fit Ex got totaled on 6/6/23 on my way to a gig in Utah… Luckily I survived in one piece. So I ended up buying a new 2023 CR-V Hybrid Sport. But I do miss my Fit 😢
I'm glad you're alright! A hybrid sounds nice.
I think a Hybrid Honda Odyssey will be next car, if and when they come out.
Might get a EX-L this week, excited for it if everything falls through. This video has been great 🤘
We still have our 2017 Fit and no plans to get rid of it. We've had no problems at all. I guess it was too cheap to keep selling a car no one wants to get rid of.
I learned the hard way to never get rid of a running vehicle....
If you have a car that has proven itself to be reliable and you like it, never get rid of it.
I had a car that was reliable but I gave it away when moving and my truck immediately started having problems and I regretted getting rid of my car so much...
Best Honda FIT is the ones made in Japan. Period. But this is a good information for those living in the US. Thanks for sharing.
You're Welcome Juan. Thank You for watching.
Just did a 2000+ mi on my 2015 Fit(Manual) from Seattle to Yellowstone and back, on the way back did 700 mi in one sit. I agree with most of the things excepting the seats, maybe cause I'm a short guy. I would also recommend to get a hand rest for long drives, I got a removable one from amazon for 30$.
Nice, I did NY to LA in almost one sitting. (The Battery Died in Colorado) th-cam.com/video/oXnDHWhuaNA/w-d-xo.html
I have heard of the hand rest modification but its usually for the 1rst and 2nd generation Honda Fits since they don't have a centre console at all.
Do you have a link for the one you purchased? I'd like to check that out.
I have a used 2016 Fit. I have experienced the rear hatch handle issue. I discovered "unlocking" twice with the fob to het theloud noixe of unlocking to work every time. I will keep an ear out, for the cold start issue, and tire well rust.
Thanks for making this video. I own a 2016 and I’ve mentioned the VTC sound to the dealer plenty of times who say they don’t hear anything on a cold start. I welcome any advice from anyone on how to proceed.
I would record yourself starting your car in the morning and show the video to the dealership.
I think I would have wait and have the car shut off for at least 4 hours for it to make the rattle again.
It could take a bit longer in warmer weather.
When a dealer gives me the "oh they all do that" run-around, I find a similar car, compare them, then ask what's wrong with that other one that does not have my problem.
Harder to do now they stopped selling the Fit, but a Civic might be close enough.
Also, yes, definitely record the sound. You can go to another dealer, contact Honda regional office, or if need be, pay for an independent mechanic to diagnose the problem.
I once had to do that last one (not with Honda), then I brought the paperwork to the service manager at the dealer and asked to speak with his boss. Of course the higher boss was unavailable, but that was my opening to say "this is my final good faith attempt to get this resolved through your dealership." I thanked the service manager by name for his time, and told him to put his company's response in writing, and let's make an appointment to have the problem fixed under warranty.
My casual non-confrontational attitude made it clear that my visit was just so I could claim I'd tried everything.
They did fix the problem. They did not pay my diag costs at the other mechanic. That was good enough for me.
Bought a 2013 made in japan. Put in cushy seat covers. Average 34 mpg on the freeway at 75mph speed.
Sounds about right. #SafeTravels Peter.
You're absolutely right about the pearl white paint! I'm barely hitting 50,000 miles on my 2015 Fit, and the paint has already started to chip on my roof!
I have a few paint chips as well, but only where the windshield and roof come together.
I'm going to assume it's from all the tollway driving and not the paint recall (Fingers Crossed)
@@HondaFit4Adventuresame issue here, covered by the extended warranty thankfully
Thanks for the video, I didn't know about the actuator and I think that once on my FIT it made a strange sound when starting but I didn't pay attention to it, and it hasn't done it again, I can hear it more every morning
I would monitor how your FIT sounds on the morning startup. It could be a loose exhaust shield but it's most likely the actuator if it's only happening in the morning. :(
@@HondaFit4Adventure Since I watched your video, I've listened every morning and thank God it doesn't sound like that.
This was very insightful. I have to say for my 2015 ex the only repair I had to do besides shocks, spark plugs was the push start button that failed at approx 3 yrs old. It was around $300, but once Honda finally did a recall 2 yrs later I gave them my receipt and hot a full refund! I find the General tires worked best for me, my tire light never goes on except after rotation. I have had sort tires and that light would always come on. I will be inspecting my trunk. Thanks for the info, will be watching for the next video. Keep up the good work!!
Thank You Marge!
I have the LX (Base Model) So no push start for me. I'm glad you were able to get reimbursed through the recall.
Lol, No TPS light issues for me either :)
My rear hatch struts just quit working, so look forward to that replacement video too :)
This past Saturday had to get new brakes and rotors. I was on metal to metal with no warning except steering wheel shaking. Back breaks cleaned and adjusted... wait for it.. $700..I'm done..lol
VTC actuator!! Aha! From your video, I finally learn what that rattle is when I start my 2015 Fit. I've been ignoring it (but maybe I shouldn't).
How many miles are on your car?
I'll check to see what mileage I had mine replaced at.
Then you can replace yours before then, lol.
@@HondaFit4Adventure Thanks! Mine has 72000 miles.
There is a safety button inside the locking mechanism by using a flat screwdriver. You will see a small cover you have to open with the screwdriver then flick the button and it will open the trunk
I believe what you're referring to is only on the 1st and 2nd generation Honda Fits. The 3rd generation no longer has the access panel to get to the button or cable. :(
@@HondaFit4Adventure I have a 3rd gen that has the button on the locking mechanism
@@shellogee What year is your Honda Fit? and is it a U.S. model?
@@HondaFit4Adventure 2014/15 and it’s not a US model. Mines is RHD
@@shellogee Ok, that makes sense.
They must have removed that access panel on the 3rd generation U.S. models. :(
The dealerships probably wanted more repair money.
Currently waiting on my warranty paint repair to be done. Apparently when they do this it’s extremely common for the windshield to break when they remove it to repaint the areas around the top edge of the windshield, so I’m getting a new windshield too!!
The windshield is glued to the frame of the car. I can see how it could possibly break if they tried to remove it.
I'm surprised they went that far to repaint everything.
@@HondaFit4Adventure they’re just repainting each spot, not the whole car, unfortunately
I find the seats quite comfortable in my 2011 Honda Jazz. I prefer to have seat set higher and I'm almost as tall as you. I've done a few long journeys and no back issues.
I haven't had a chance to sit in an older Honda Fit yet but the seat issues don't seem to come up as much for the older generations.
It must be a 3rd gen thing...
Hey! You should look into installing a passenger base seat slider. It’ll let you front seat slide back flatter giving you some more sleeping room
That's a great idea.
All of the seat extenders or sliders that I see online just mention the seat sliding backwards an extra few inches.
They never really mention the seat being able to slide forward so I'll have to give them a call.
Ah I definitely overlooked that! It’d be awesome if you found something. Goodluck
Thank you for sharing this very informative video. More power to you and your channel.
Thank You! 🙌
Also, recommended to do regular (see maintenance manual) transmission changes/flushes with a CVT.
Agreed. I was going to bring up the CVT but since my car was a manual I had no personal experience in dealing with the Automatic transmission.
I heard the CVT transmission isn't the greatest in general, no matter what car its in.
The complaints on the uncomfortable seat is bewildering to me. I thru and thru never think about my seat because it is such an enjoyable ride. I only wish there was a design feature that allowed you to raise the middle console for better arm rest ability. Other than that such a great vehicle! I have a 2017 and have had a 2015 as well. Neither was bad for me. Sore backs to me is normal. The road noise was improved in the 2017. I think for a hatch it has great sound insulation!
May I ask how tall you are? Maybe it's a height related issue?
The Honda Fit was the cheapest car in the Honda line-up. I wouldn't expect it to have the best seats or sound quality, lol.
Overall its still a great car!
@@HondaFit4Adventure Im 6'2"
2021 Honda Fit CVT going on 25k+ kms. Not a bolt out of place though the car has been made to stand outside come scorching sun or tropical rains
The Fit Is Go!
2nd gen owner and mine is dry in the back hatch has gotten stuck a few times. Other than that its pretty solid got it for a good price and have had it for a few years.
As the owner of a white 2014 Jazz/Fit, I can confirm about the paint getting off 😅
Mine just started too at the 10 year mark, :(
@@HondaFit4Adventure Sad :(
Trying to do some paint fixes, vetter than nothing, protects against rust but doesn't look great as I'm an amateur.
I should've taken it in red or blue
@@giovannipomarico2035 Lol, same. I attempted to fix the rust on my Fits rear quarter panels. The first side came out like sh1t, but hasn't rusted since. The other side came out near prefect, but rusted again. Ill try to fix the one side again before winter.
My apologies. I may have inserted the wrong clip of the failing VTC actuator.
You can hear what a bad one sounds like here @5:05 th-cam.com/video/aWd-F-dYLnw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xOw6UNs_tmMvNKXJ&t=305
I'd say any color except the black - mine's like a little oven if it so much as sees the sun on the horizon, and the fan doesn't cool the car at all (even on a cool day), only air con does.
My sister bought a 2015 honda fit. The next day it made the rattle noise on cold start. Took back to the dealership and it end up being the actuator and dealer said its just normal wear and tear and there was nothing they can do about it. Not even a full day they had the car.
Did she buy the car new or used?
The worse part about the car being used is that you don't know how long the VTC actuator has been faulty for, potentially causing more damage.
Thank you so much for making this video. Much help. Have a great day. :))
Great video. Watching this because I’m here in Canada looking for my first car and found a 2015 Honda Fit manual with 140K kilometres or 87K miles. He is asking Canadian $7500 which is USD $5500. Now I’m thinking if I should get it or not. 🙂
As long as it doesn't rattle on the cold start, $7500 Canadian is a good price.
@@HondaFit4Adventure omg thank you for the recommendation. 😍
I’m gonna ask the guy for a test drive and little bit price negotiation.
@@Calicoegg When you go to start the car, make sure a blue indicator light comes up on the dashboard. This will let you know that its a cold start.
If you don't see the blue light after starting the car, then the car was previously started and or driven.
The actuator will not rattle if the car is warmed up.
@@HondaFit4Adventure yes of course. I will check that.
Shout out to my fellow Zimbabwean on the "ndiri mu honda fit track"
Kay Flow went hard on that track!
Another problem, the starter motor has a short life. This is a problem on my 2015 Fit EX model, might apply to others. The starter motor solenoid is built into the motor and was assembled improperly cause the solenoid contacts to burn through prematurely. The fix is a new starter motor for about $250 or 31210-5G0-A01 Holder Set, Brush for $33. The brushes and commutator were fine on mine but the solenoid contacts, which are part of the brush holder set, were burned badly. YT has a lot of videos about replacing the starter motor and a few about how to replace the brush set. I saved about $900 doing it myself in about 2 hours on the garage floor.
Hi Gary, I've been going through all of my Honda Fit repair bills and it looks like I had my starter replaced at 35,405 miles, just before the warranty ended.
I haven't heard of to many others with starter problems, so maybe it was just the first year of the 3rd gen Honda Fits with that issue?
Lots of people suppose the commutator or brushes but I found the contacts on the solenoid burned up. The contact is basically just a thick copper washer with teeth on one half that engage a fixed toothed copper plate. If the teeth on the washer contact the teeth on the plate then they burn out quickly. The washer should be oriented for the teeth to contact the smooth part of the plate and vice versa. There should have been a flat on the solenoid plunger and correspondingly on the washer to insure that the washer could not be mounted backwards. Maybe Mitsuba fixed this on later models or American Honda is just ignoring it like the VTC actuator problem, both of which I am experienced. The VTC problem is destroying the value of my car so I guess I will keep it until death do us part.
BTW - The starter problem starts out as an intermittent issue and fails completely eventually. @@HondaFit4Adventure
Friend of mine has a 15 fit he used to complain about his seat as well so he went with an aftermarket seat no more problems
What seat did he go with?
I found out that an 08? Civic Si seat will work in a Honda Fit, while still keeping the airbag functional. (Driver Side Only)
I'll probably pick up a set and figure out the passenger side.
@@HondaFit4Adventure buddy club
Bring fit back!!!! 🎉
#TheFitIsGo
will that vtc actuator cause damage to the engine? its a fairly common problem with hondas and ive seen people say they have it under 10k miles and some others say that they replace it and the problem comes back. it makes me wonder if its really a problem that causes internal damage because this engine is very reliable and easily reaches over 300k miles for what ive seen
1.) Yes. If the VVT actuator or solenoid is not fixed right away or as soon as possible it will eventually stretch the timing chain. Once the timing chain is stretched it will start chewing out the teeth on the guide rollers. If the teeth on the guide rollers are damaged enough the chain can skip entirely and cause some serious damage to the motor.
2.) I'm not a mechanic, but I believe if the VVT actuator or solenoid is not working correctly it will starve some engine components of oil. The lack of oil will produce heat which will lead to the stretch of the timing chain.
3.) Yes the Actuator or Solenoid is a common but fixable problem. If fixed right away it's only about $300 to fix and you're good for another 50-100k miles.
4.) My VVT originally failed and was replaced under the warranty. The new one installed by Honda under warranty failed within 10k miles (Just like you've read) and I chose not to have it replaced which lead to bigger problems down the road. I think there was a bad batch of VVT actuators or solenoids for a year or so because the new ones seem to last.
Conclusion. Yes the L series motor is super reliable and capable or reaching up to 300k miles.
Instead of timing belts we now have timing chains. Instead of changing a belt every 50-100k miles, we now have to change out the VVT every 50-100k instead.
If the VVT is changed accordingly, the engine should capable of reaching that mileage.
Good video. Love the simple solutions
Thank You! Nice Yaris. My friend has a lifted Toyota Prius.
Thank you for a great video and informative.
You're Welcome. :)
In Ireland. My wife is taking delivery of a 2019 JDM Fit hybrid next week. A hybrid with a CVT has no right being that fun to drive.
I planned on buying the Hybrid Fit, but it was not available in the states. :(
@@HondaFit4Adventure same as here,but because we drive on the same side of the road as Japan, importing them is a little more practical.
Interesting video thanks for posting
My 2018 Civic has worse road noise than my 2015 Fit. True story....
Lol, good to know!
Was That Takura’s song 6:18
It was by Kay Flow, Nasper & M Killer - th-cam.com/video/U4OU0u8WJuA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xF7rzORtIJinLU9g
I've had the VTC rattle for almost a year... It now sounds horrible.
You mentioned if you don't fix it it will damage some other stuff. What else does this damage? I thought the rattle was just a nuisance but didn't affect anything mechanically speaking 😅
It eventually leads to slack in the timing chain. The slack in the timing chain will eventually start wearing out the teeth on the guide rollers etc. You should be able to take it to a mechanic and have them tell you if needs fixing right away or you can wait awhile based on the slack if any that's measured on the chain. I went 30k miles before getting mine fixed (Don't do that!)
I went to start the car one day and the cold start rattle sounded very different. That's when I finally had it fixed and got the big repair bill.
I wish it was as simple as an exhaust shield rattle.
I’m driving a 2011, 2nd gen, Fit Sport with 125,000 miles. Never had any major problems, except recently when it started making a grinding noise upon starting when temp is below 50 F. Any suggestions? Thanks.
I can’t believe Honda replaced the Fit with the HRV. Bad move, especially with a CVT. I see advertising for a 2025 Fit, but it’s not available in the USA. It looks like a CGI clip, so it may be fake.
I would definitely go get that checked out. It sounds like that VVT actuator or solenoid going bad.
If not fixed right away, it can cause more expensive problems.
If you drive around for a while, and then restart the car does it still make the noise or does it go away?
@@HondaFit4Adventure It goes away after a second and doesn’t come back until after the engine cools below 40-50 degrees. Thanks for your suggestion.
I just purchased a 2015 Fit EX, manual with 59,000 miles. Ive read alot about the vtc actuator on these. Is there a average milage that this tends to happen or is it something thats random at any time say from 20k to 120k and beyond?
It seems to happen randomly for most people.
Does your Fit rattle on a cold start? If not, I'd say it was probably replaced already based on your mileage.
Based on my research... There was a few years where the VTC actuators being made were crap. Honda redesigned them or sourced them from a different company, so the new VTC actuators seem to last.
My 2018 Fit has 58,000km. It started the noise at 50,000km. Do you think I should have the VTC Actuator replace ASAP?
In My Opinion. Replace it as soon as you can afford too.
It's not going to damage your car overnight, but its best to replace it within a year.
Best honda car
The Fit Is Go!
How tall are you?
6'5" or 198.12cm
I frequently go for 3 hour drives in my 2016 Honda fit and the seat doesn’t bother me
How tall are you? Maybe it's a height related issue?
Still rocking my 2010 Fit with 68k miles. She needs a fun paint job now that she's reaching puberty. I'm tired of the silver.
Woah, 68k miles! Yeah, she's still a baby 👶
@@HondaFit4Adventure Working from home and only using her for long car trips has kept her young. :)
A great car. I had two.
Have you had any issues with the driver’s side rear footwell getting wet?
No. My guesses...
A. Check the seal around your door frame. Make sure it's pushed down all the way and there's no lumps.
B. Look at the passenger side firewall in the engine bay. See if the big rubber grommet is pushed into place.
C. Your new windshield may not be attached properly.
Hey brother great videos 😀 I just wanted to give some friendly advise. If you're planning to sleep over your electronic with power running through them, you need to insulate yourself from the dirty electric fields that run off the circuits. Because these can have detrimental effects on your health and brain. Peace man all the best.
Are you talking about EMF? I have read that about things like electric blankets.
A charging MacBook probably puts off more EMF then my Milk Crate full of USB ports.
Agree with the seat. Its not comfortable! By the way what is the spec and brand of your tires?
They are 16x7 Sparco Terra Rims on 205/55/16 Riken Raptor tires.
th-cam.com/video/wn21IUFnlTQ/w-d-xo.html
I wish we can get new models honda fit in the US
At first I didn't like the 4th generation Honda Fit. I thought it looked ugly.
I changed my mind after seeing one close up. It looks way better in person.
How to fix 2019 honda fit ex stiff steering wheel electric ??
Added to the To-Do list.
How many miles were on your FIT before you started to experience this?
Second gen here .
I am going to do $1300 repares tomorrow only because i caused it my self otherwise it d run enother 100000 km
I feel that. My timing chain replacement could have been avoided if I knew what that cold start rattle was and what damage it would cause long term, lol. Live & learn.
Does the vtc issue show any engine codes ??
No it does not. Even my chain rollers were damaged and it still didn't throw a code.
I drove approximately 30k miles with a bad VTC. One day the cold start rattle sounded quite different than normal, that's when I finally took it in to go get fixed.
Hopefully you have a good relationship with a mechanic. I was told they can monitor the slack in the chain and let you know if it needs to be fixed right away or if you'll be able to drive a few more thousand miles with out causing any extra damage.
What are your new tires?
The Rims are Sparco Terra 16x7.
www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&wheelMake=Sparco+All-Terrain&wheelModel=Terra&wheelFinish=Black+Painted&autoMake=Honda&autoModel=Fit&autoYear=2015&autoModClar=LX
The Tires are Riken Raptor 205/55/16
www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?gclid=Cj0KCQjwiIOmBhDjARIsAP6YhSWXyf5tygBbU7yeT4vqJ5oHHVTSkzNVrmfB-Lm5NYzHQAj3wJOxxfoaAtSdEALw_wcB&tireMake=Riken&tireModel=Raptor+ZR+A%2FS&partnum=055WR6RZRASXL&GCID=C13674x012-tire&KEYWORD=tires.jsp_Riken_Raptor+ZR+A%2FS_Tire&code=yes&ef_id=Cj0KCQjwiIOmBhDjARIsAP6YhSWXyf5tygBbU7yeT4vqJ5oHHVTSkzNVrmfB-Lm5NYzHQAj3wJOxxfoaAtSdEALw_wcB:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!3756!3!!!!x!!&gclsrc=aw.ds
Here's a link to the install video.
th-cam.com/video/wn21IUFnlTQ/w-d-xo.html
oh wow! so get the gen 2 fit?!
Yes. It's also a lot easier to K20 swap. (No Canbus electrical system or fancy computer modules)
Don't really need to watch the video to know the answer is a definitive YES
Lol, Maybe watch @6:27
Damn and i was think where my lower back pain came from 😂
I found a way to extend your seat about 2" for free. This helped out a little bit. th-cam.com/video/D_cX5iAHSoY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=EE8DZOyoszD9MYo0
I also found some seat risers on Amazon. I'm going to try those out on my next trip.
I though my matrix seats werent that comfortable but I only start to notice it after about 12 hours on the road so I guess ill stop saying they suck lol
You can try them out if you can drive my car across Canada for me ;)
I bought a 20 EX Fit and in 3 years had to replace the total rear axle assembly. In 23 last year I wanted a 23 Accord EX. I had 8200 equity. In Texas, my insurance was going up 445 on the Accord. 440 more on a Civic. The lowest increase of 235 was the 24 HRV EXL. Since the new HRV is the Civic platform I bought it. I dumped that Fit. The seats are not comfortable either and I was dying in the fit after 30 minutes driving
Woah, you had to replace the whole rear axle assembly?! What happened?
Insurance has gone up everywhere. It's unfortunate, but we end up paying for the accidents caused by uninsured motorists, as seen in my Colorado video. th-cam.com/video/gYsBSl5w7z0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=f4g6FaPcLPH2soth
Although the HRV is built on a Civic frame, it is more related to the FIT build platform.
I agree, the seats are terrible. It was the first thing I noticed when test driving the car.
I found a free way to extend the seats back by two more inches. This seems to help out a bit. th-cam.com/video/D_cX5iAHSoY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BAxUlOh5HS5PCP_q
Good Luck on your future endeavors with the Honda Civic. Don't forget to add a catch can.
@@HondaFit4Adventure I drove over a small piece of wood block in the highway I could not avoid. The dealer was like well if you had a multi link suspension like the civic or accord we could just adjust. Torsion bar you have to replace the whole thing
I'm 6f 3. How tall are you?
6'4 or 6'5.
Depends on who you ask 😏
@@HondaFit4Adventure Test driving a 2014 model today, let's see how I fit.
@@BecauseJapan NGL, After going on my test drive, I was a bit concerned about not having enough leg room. I felt there needed to be an extra inch or two to stretch out comfortably. Although it was a concern, I still purchased the car and could not be happier. Good Luck!
2014 Fit with white peeling paint. its a disgrace that they can go so wrong with their paint job. my dad's 2006 Toyota Yaris that never gest washed has paint in better shape. as to leg room for tall people and discomfort.... your legs are too long for the low seat, pushing your knees up high and therefore driving your tailbone and sit bones into the seat. so all your weight is taken in a small area, rather than distributing your weight over your buttocks and thighs. Ive added a 2 inch foam cushion or sometimes I have a 3 inch Roho Mosaic cushion (often used in wheelchairs and about $125 canadian on Amazon). But Im only 5'10" with 33 inch inseam legs.
It appears that a lot of Honda vehicles (New and Old) have the same issue with the white pearl paint. I don't understand why they can't correct the paint issue either.
Thank you for the seat cushion recommendation. I will have to look into that.
In the meantime, I figured out how to extend the seat 2" further back for free. It definitely helps a little bit th-cam.com/video/D_cX5iAHSoY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=M4nhkBk875TcP-D2
Thanks...
…answer to the title question:
*YES*.
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My 2018 Honda Fit about to go into the shop for a metallic noise it keeps making. I thought Honda made good cars. It only has 90k miles and yet it making this stupid noise. Just stick with Toyota folks. Never had such issues. Never buying a car in such a cheap segment either. No wonder all these cars are being axed from the market.
I really regret buying such a car and have very little hope it will last long. I was blinded by what I thought would be a fun car and reliability. No. The back seat is already broken on me. So no magic seats. The aeats are terrible. The build quality is lacking as well. Also it is incredibly unsafe. I will 100% die in any accident.
I hope it's just an exhaust shield and not your VTC actuator.
The re-introduction of the Honda Civic hatch is what killed the sales of the Honda Fit and why it was discontinued in the U.S. market.
The seats are terrible but I haven't heard of any one having problems with the rear seat. What is broken on the back seat? The bolts, the folding bar, or the locking mechanism? I like taking the FIT apart to make How/To & repair videos. Let me know what broke and I'll see what I can do.
The Honda Fit has a 5 star safety rating, but I must say a lot of damage is done to the car if you're ever rear ended. The rear bumper/crash bar sits lower than most cars front bumper hight. So even a rear end collision at low speeds will not only damage your rear bumper, but your trunk as well. $$$
Toyotas are nice :) th-cam.com/video/oYCMPVxxt7o/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mKCOmMFotnpboZui&t=43
@HondaFit4Adventure The rear seat on the passenger side no longer folds down. It still does the magic bit and folds up. But the traditional fold down doesn't work. You click the latch and nothing happens. It seems to be a problem on several Honda models and a pain to fix. I would be interested to see you make a video.
@@HondaFit4Adventure It was a RH Axle Heat shield and the bushings on the mounts collapsed. While the mechanics were down there they showed me a oil leak as well.
Seriously this is ridiculous. It is a 5 year old car with 90k miles. Really expected better from Honda with maintenance records. If I wanted a American or German car ownership experience I would have gone with them. Absolutely no excuse.
@@baronvonjo1929 I have never heard of this issue, but after doing some research it does seem to be a fairly common issue on the Fit, CRV and a few other Hondas that share the same latch. I haven't experienced this problem and my rear seats have been removed from the car, but I will take a look at the latch Mechanism and the other TH-cam videos online diagnosing the problem and come up with my own video.
@@baronvonjo1929 If your Axle bushing collapsed, that is the oil from the Axle seal and not an oil leak from the motor.
I don't have the full details or pictures to look at but a leaking axle seal at 90k miles is just wear and tear.
Long story short, buy a second gen?
Second generation Honda Fit's seem to be the best.
I might be picking up a first generation for a Lemon's Rally or some other type of cheap cross country rally event.
change the spark plugs and tell me if they were even finger tight. worst engine in the world. what other engine in a lawn mower, motorcycle, or car unscrews its own spark plugs. Honda knows about it and still sells the car.
Hi Jay. I have heard about this issue. I'm not sure when, but Honda did end up changing the torque spec on the plugs from 15ftlbs to 20ftlbs. This seems to have fixed that issue, but is still worth noting.
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What about made in Canada? lol
whatever you say Manuel Valencia
Fit is just another Shitty little car. Everything about is Cheap.. Except the price.
You're right. The Honda Fit is an economy car. It is not made for comfort or luxury.
What other car prices in 2015 are you comparing it to? It seemed about average to me.
That's bs i drove 30 to 40 minutes to work on the rush our traffic 5 days a week i don't feel pain in my back
Try two hours, lol.
It could also be my height.