Hey you! Yes you there, the thousandth person coming down here in a hissy fit to tell me how mean and nasty and unprofessional I was to that poor, poor, ignorant flat earther. Stop. You have zero perspective on this situation. Weiss is a con man who lies for a living. He knows he's wrong, he just spews a script of lies to make money on the internet. Politeness is a window to gish gallop and spread more lies, and you can clearly see how angry he got when I pinned him on every lie in his script, pressing him to respond to things he knew he couldn't respond to. He does not deserve respect. He does not deserve decency. He deserves annihilation. He deserves public humiliation. His remaining followers are impervious to facts and logic, so the only thing that works is a demonstration of what a sniveling, lying, pathetic little toddler he is. Also, no, he was not polite. The first words out of his mouth were to slander me regarding the content on my channel, and all he did was call me a "dick" every time I proved him wrong. He's a douchebag. And guess what? Even if he wasn't a con man he still should be treated this way, because politeness toward this "issue" would give the illusion of two "opinions" with equal footing. There aren't. The earth is objectively a sphere, as we've known for thousands of years, and anyone who says otherwise is actively calling all of science a lie, and literally all scientists liars. That's insanely offensive. This is how you deal with flat earth con men. Get on board or get out of the way. Got it?
that ain't gone stop them so why try? It's hard writing with a normal pencil, so I use a pointy one, pointy, pointy, pointy, pointy, pointy, point. PU! What's that horrible smell?! DRUM SOLO!!
In my experience it's a lot easier to convince someone of something if I don't refer to them as subhuman vermin. I wholeheartedly believe that this guy deserved everything you gave to him, but I disagree with the general sentiment that politeness toward a person you have a disagreement with gives weight to their argument. You can unwaveringly insist that someone is blatantly wrong about something without insulting them. One more time to be absolutely clear though: Fuck FlatEarthDave
You could convince more people if you didn’t interrupt him and literally gaslight him into thinking he’s interrupting and changing subjects when it’s really you who never even acknowledges or understands his “stupid” point of view. You’re debunking what you THInK he’s saying and but it’s not what he’s saying half the time. Your Neil deGrasse Tyson tactics look better on his rude ass, with the actual TACT of patience and understanding the subject he’s trying to insult. Grow up and gain a perspective. You don’t really know Jack till you start acknowledging u don’t know everything about everything and everyOnE. We share this damn egg-shaped planet, and you’re a huge socially crippling, emotionally crippled, toxic douche of a human. Big words. You manipulate people to stoop to your level. Can’t believe I bit. Gross content by a gross soul. Be kind. And get your tech working. Let a poor fool defend himself just once if you’re so certain. Or don’t publish your incompetent attempts.
And they'd try to go around it and fall off the edge. I guess. I don't want to think of how the science for that would....... oh hell i have coffee to drink I'm out
Right on . These dicks just don't believe in science or logic . Until , of course they get really ill and then , they rush down to the local hospital , a place full of science and logic . Ignorance isn't bliss Its pathetic .
the fact that he literally knows everything to counter his arguments without notes, yet the other guy was probably running off a script which Dave didn’t see before just shows irrefutably how much more evidence there is for a globe than flat.
Also, in December, it doesn't receive more than 12 hours of direct sunlight and magnetics are pulling your vision to the same direction as Australians, when looking at the Southern Cross. Finally, all of this information is withheld from you at school.
I really appreciate Dave’s harshness in this video. He’s not holding back at all and it’s refreshing. Flat earthers, and any other crazy conspiracy theorists spreading misinformation is HARMFUL to society and they must be held accountable. Hence why Dave is so “rude” to this guy because he deserves it and people need to see them for what they are.
Haha I don’t agree with them but I think flat weathers are probably the least harmful conspiracy theorists there are. They often overlap with actually harmful stuff but thinking the earth is flat doesn’t hurt antbody
@@IWannaGoMissingThe problem is believing in a conspiracy eliminates their ability to think logically and make them believe in other dumb things like anti vaccines during COVID so no the harshness is warranted.
I don't appreciate it..this is very hard to watch...so rude and condescending instead of listening and having a "normal" debate..you lost me Professor Dave...
@@IWannaGoMissinghe means all the people for all those years back doing years of research, for literally hundreds of years thousands and thousands of people are wrong, I know exactly where he’s coming from, it’s so rude to ignore the facts, wake up kid
@@derekredgate1982 yup. In fact his followers actively work to make the world worse every day. His savior also prescribes rules for owning slaves, carries out genocide, rape, incest etc.. also gives kids cancer. Hopefully he sees the superiority of secular morality and abandons his cult.
"Oh no it's because he doesn't trust the person or the demons You know he's afraid of demons yeah." His answer was evident that he doesn't have the balls to do it he just wants to sit there tweedle his little tiny dick to all the stupid people that believe him
@@johnqpublic7608 A scammer would not go to a place that forces him to see evidence that refutes everything he says. He is a defintite scammer; you might just be gullible
@@mandtgrant why tf should he go there his free to not go there and u got no evidence of anythin u live in ur own egg world that dosent make sense sientifcly or logicly its just some idiotic bulshit that ppl belive maybe one day the world will know how stupid we where and how idiot we where
I laughed so loud when dave asked him "do you want to adress this thing or do you want to move on to something else" and homie straight face just says "I want to move on to something else"
I'm about 35 minutes into this conversation and I am really glad that the Earth isn't flat because I would have rolled off the edge of it laughing by now
Awe man that’s the best comment ❤ being funny is a gift lol I can’t do it as much as I try to make a funny it never it’s it was confusing to whoever I’m trying to b funny to
I agree it is sad. Problem is there are many younger people who may be on the fence. If they are swayed back to reality because of stuff like this, I think it’s worth it. Just my opinion, but still you’re not wrong
On one level flat earth seems to be just harmless lunacy, but on another it is very definitely not. Remember, people who believe in absurdities can be convinced to commit atrocities.
And then the guy would sometimes repeat the same question but in different words "how did this thing happen if our world is not flat" And Dave responds with, "I just explained that"
My favourite is flat earth Dave's insistence on an explanation for the sun orbiting the earth in order for the Eratosthenes experiment to have validity. It's an experiment in and about _geometry,_ and the geometry is valid provided there is relative rotation, regardless of where the centre of rotation is. If you think about it, it's only really once people started understanding gravity and its consequences that they had a way of distinguishing between geocentric and heliocentric models.
When you said "children can understand this", and I'm watching two adults who are arguing about it, I checked out. You're right the kids are smarter, they don't care, I promise. it's weird that anyone is entertaining flat earth.
Think of FE Dave as a pigeon trying to play chess. Lots of people are cheering this pigeon on, but that doesn’t change the fact he doesn’t know how to play. Dave Farina knows this, so rather than try and beat the pigeon in chess, he does his best to prove to the pigeon’s audience that he has no idea what he’s doing. He’s not entertaining FE Dave, he’s demonstrating live that he doesn’t understand what he’s saying.
Conspiracy nitwits always ask questions which they never do intend to be answered. It is their way of "trying to get you to think" 😅 The "Dunning Krueger Effect" comes to mind "Why didn't tneTowers fall over sideways" (when the planes hit them) You will not get a word in edgewise in reply to the question
It’s a shame Dave let him deflect the tides question to “well how to YOU explain tides”. I was genuinely curious how a flat earther explains lakes, rivers and oceans rising and falling at different times all over the world in a world where all water is inherently horizontal .
Dubay just witters about "the bosom of the deep" without explanation. The impression i get is that the windowlickers who fall for it have the impression that all the water goes up and down at the same time. Which opens a whole new level of stupidity they refuse to notice.
Lol! He was literally trying to suggest that the twin towers would have to get wider and wider the higher they go to stay parallel with one another if the earth is in fact a sphere. So basically, in his mind the earth is a sphere about the size of Manhattan!! 😋
Yes. And it is the same issue with multiple "conspiracy" theorists. There is a lack of understanding of scale for the size of the Universe, the distance across the Solar System, the age of the Earth, economy, population, government, and on and on. It is one of their defining qualities.
Dave: gives a based explanation That moran: "No!! You don't anderstend! the earth is flat because of an cosmological wind that efect the magnetic power and the curvature of the spiritual Dimond"
@@pokmanl9810 "Did you murder this guy? We have video evidence of you doing it." "No, I didn't." "Ah okay you're free to go! Denying is all the proof we need."
He could literally fly to the South Pole, which would take about 24 hours, and see the people there with his own eyes. In other words, he could have completely disproved himself, aka proved the existence of people in the South Pole, in less than 24 hours from the time this podcast was recorded, then return 48 hours later for part two of this podcast (of a two-part series) in which he would have to admit that he was wrong. IT WOULD TAKE LESS THAN 48 HOURS ROUND TRIP.
@@bearoperator5490 and that's why Dave didn't use the south pole but the southern parts of Argentina as his example. You can just _drive_ there by yourself. Literally _no_ dependency on any third party. There you can experience 17 hour days for yourself. Or you can look to the south to see the Southern Cross, while talking on the phone to your FE buddy in South Africa (only 6 hours ahead) if he can also see it in the south. Heck, for the issue of impossibly long days in the southern summer you don't even have to go that far: the FE model breaks down _noticeably_ far sooner. Days in the south should _always_ be shorter than days in the north, because of simple geometry (larger radius = larger diameter of the sun's path; but still only 24 hours to cover it = sun has to move quicker = days are shorter).
You calling FlatEarthDave out every time he tried to jump to another topic and brush the current one aside was definitely one of the funniest things I've seen in a while
I used to work with a guy who is a flat earther. I never dismiss someone's beliefs out of hand without giving them serious thought and consideration. For that reason, I bought this book: 100 Proofs Earth is Not a Globe. I honestly believed and expected it to contain well written, thought provoking proofs. However, the vast majority of the proofs were of a form similar to this: [statement that clearly demonstrates a lack of understanding of an area of science] followed by, therefore the earth is not a globe. A good deal of the others were simple personal incredulity: I can't believe that, therefore that's not true, therefore the earth is not a globe. I had several discussions with this co-worker. I even created a diagram based on the flat earth model to demonstrate that what we see does not agree with the flat earth model. What I learned from these discussions is that science is wrong, math is wrong, geometry is a lie. What I eventually realized was that flat earth is a religious belief and like all religious beliefs it does not require scientific proof. For that reason, providing scientific proof that counters the flat earth model falls on deaf ears.
I wonder if it's better to use their arguments against themselves, like why do you believe this to be like this? What made you believe this is the way that it is? Why would everybody be lying to you? Basically just play out the entire scenario for them... As it mostly debunks itself
@James Bruce I have asked them why would everyone be lying to you. Why keep up with a worldwide conspiracy that involves every scientist, all teaching of science and go out of the way to adapt science and mathematical equations for systems that are based on the world being a sphere to keep up with this lie. Any time I do ask these questions they either change the subject, go on some crazy rant and call me stupid or just block me.
I'm the individual who understand very little about science but if this Moon and Sun is inside a dome why they do not fall to the ground like everything else
@@pargolf3158 I was going to make a joke about this being the one joke most people know. But then I remembered the vast amounts of sheep like transphobia that popped up in the Flerf movement around Patricia Steere. Particularly because she wasn't even transgender and... now I've decided your post has layers. Good job!
@@beepboop9848 Well, the implication is that the Earth is similar to someone with untreated gender dysphoria. So it only appears to be flat to the least informed and most superficial viewing. The idea of the Earth itself telling someone it is round, and them telling the Earth it's wrong because of how it looks is hilarious. Both as commentary on Flat Earth and whatever the medical equivalent is when some uninformed dipshit tries to cite some fact that comes straight from their imaginations about gender dysphoria. That the Patricia Steered conspiracy theory revealed that the Venn diagram of Flat Earthers and transphobes is basically just a circle inside a circle added to my amusement.
I don’t understand any of that stuff and professor Dave made complete sense and broke it down so simply (except for a few terms I don’t know the meaning of) that I feel like I could now easily destroy flat earthers.
@@kalabwhite8379 That's the qualities of a good teacher/professor. He knows how to break it down in a way that's easy to understand and comprehend, and he isn't afraid to get a little technical if he needs to.
Only one sentence sticks to my mind the entire video: "It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person" - Bill Murray.
Since when has science ever won an argument with religion? Religious people cannot be convinced by science due to beliefs blinded by faith. Flat earth people are the same.
This flat earth fellow is spouting sophistry, and doing an amazingly poor job of it. It is a rare opportunity indeed when one can hear such a steady steam of 100% foolishness. I can’t believe that this flat earther actually believes the utter rubbish. I suspect he just does this for a lark. It reminds me of the saying, “don’t wrestle with a pig. You get dirty and the pig likes it.”
Lmao his face must hurt after that. Imagine if he went all in just as a joke and spent the entire time smiling directly at he camera. Would respect it.
A good deal of these is: "Then why does this not happen?" "It does happen." Professor: Explains in amazing detail the topic at hand. Flat Earther: "That's stupid and I don't like it. Next!"
"Then why does this not happen?" "It does happen." Professor: Explains in amazing detail the topic at hand. Flat Earther: "That's stupid,I don't like it and youre being a dick. Next!" Made it perfect for you.
16:44 "Why don't you stop condescending to the entire human race and pretending that every scientist ever is a liar and satanic deceiver. That's much more offensive than me calling you stupid. (Which you are.)" Better than the best Hollywood movie quote I've ever seen.
@@freakybeaky1 that's right.. before arguing with an idiot, be sure they aren't also doing the same.. so we try to explain A sphere and his 3 dimensional world to A square and even once he sees the truth of depth it conflicts with a life time of conditioning to a faulty truth... and never suggest anything to the king of line land or they will deny its validity 8D
@@RetroGamingMusicCom ... Neil just realizes the old adagium; "never argue with idiots, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience".
HA HA HA. I don't think I have loved a video more than this one. Dave is now my favorite smart person. And dumbass dave is also now my favorite dumb person :) I want to see Dave debate more flat earthers or moon landing deniers. This guy should be everywhere! I just subscribed and joined.
Prof Dave. Hope you read this. Tell old Davie there that if we were to tilt from 23.4 deg to 90 deg, the south and north poles would melt and turn to deserts or just seas, and the rest of the planet would die…. Geez, this is someone who cannot see in 3d. Or multiple motion vectors happening at the same time. Mmmm
you can tell him yourself. flat dave has the channels ditrh, flat earth zodiac clock, flat earth dave interviews.. he has a lot for his grifting and scamming.
I'm 54. I was around for cable tv, video games, home computers, the internet. In the last year alone, I have never watched so many stupid people spout out so much nonsense. Never did I think the internet would come to this.
social media amplifies all human activity. crazy people have always existed and thought crazy things. now they have a megaphone to the world to influence others. we arent becoming dumber, we are becoming more connected. and that has its consequences.
This is the terrible downside of the internet. It's allowed the stupid and idiotic who would normally get shutdown by the majority IRL to loudly voice their sense of 'I'm special' and to find the people who not only already think like them, but to also manipulate and influence those who are vulnerable and prone to thinking like them. Those that feel misunderstood, oppressed, disenfranchised etc with their beliefs (rightly so). To now have the conformation and validation of others with similar reality denying and lack of fact acceptance trauma. Those who question hard facts and logic due to their association of it with and their dislike of authority and things beyond their mere comprehension and understanding. To seek each other out, group together and via emotional fuelled vengeance and white-knight platforming against ‘authority’ (aka those who actually know what they are talking about and so they have the right to inform you of things such as when you’re wrong and when thinking is flawed). Compounded by their use of the Dunning-Kerger confidence low IQ boost to be to too stupid to realise how little they know, thinking and believing they know more than they actually do. To infect and corrupt the minds and connect with more of their emotionally and cognitively insecure kind. The easily emotionally swayed and paranoid ‘big antigovernment sheep-following group thinkers’ amplified by algorithmic echo chamber of likeminded ‘others’ to them. Further confirmation biasing their thoughts and instilling a stronger self-confidence in their beliefs, both of themselves, and naturally, within their communities of delusion. Even group defending what they ‘believe’ their group thinks (emotionally, group attached and motivated. Can’t think for themselves as they depend on the group for bias confirmation and their false cognitive security) furthering the acceleration of nonsense spewing and disinformation-confusion spreading all while profiting of it via either attention, (controversially, negative or otherwise. As the ego-obsession for attention is greater than none at all) or profiting by money (and the encouraging support and applaud from their cult), only further confirmation bias that they ‘must be’ doing something that has value within it. As they gain from it, even a little is extremely motivating if they’ve never got much attention or recognition from anyone beforehand.
Look at the beginning of any new media. They all enabled the spread of awful information. One great example and comparison is steam powered printing in the middle of the first half of the 19th century. It created a massive boom in newspapers, and with all those newspapers came a huge demand for content. This is when tabloids started. These papers also would have been a great place for actual snake oil sales to thrive. My personal idea is also that this new media boom enabled The Know Nothings who were around in the US a bit after 1850. All of this really matches up with how social media has boomed, and how the subsequent demand for content has enabled the spread of misinformation. It's also worth noting that the current flat earth stuff is taken almost completely from a similar movement that was around in the late 1800's and early 1900's. There were books and public debates about the topic at the time. According to a history of publishing article, this was a time when there were a lot of new publishing houses opening, and book printing technology had made it feasible to print as few as 1,000 copies of a book. There are definitely other examples that had varying impacts. Some are small media innovations like direct mail, email chain newsletters, and infomercials. Those definitely helped spread misinformation at a faster rate. So, the question I ask myself is what could possibly be the next big media innovation that throws us all for a loop while we figure out how to become literate enough to consume it safely? We think we're super advanced now, just like they did in 1899. Too long. Sorry.
They had a time limit because they used the free streaming program 😂 idk why they didn’t just pay for whatever app they are using so it can go longer than an hour
I believe flat Earth Dave is disingenuous and just doing this for a grift. That's why humiliation is the best tactic against these people. You can try to meet them at their level and talk science, but that is their wheelhouse, it's like mud restaurant. Once you make them look stupid they lose followers and they lose their grift.
‘This is supposedly where stars are born. ……. How come, this stuff doesn’t collapse in upon itself?’ “It does. That’s how stars are formed.” There has to be some other people out there that found this incredibly funny.
This is the equivalent of someone who has never been to medical school, or doesn’t understand how the human body works, telling brain surgeons that they are wrong because “it doesn’t make any sense to me”. It’s the absolute definition of an argument from ignorance fallacy.
@@patrickbaklava7297 it’s not a curved baseline to any noticeable degree - the earth is massive. And it’s not been a problem for ships over the centuries.
@@patrickbaklava7297 What does it feel like to live with a double digit IQ? I always wondered what it was like to be slower than the pack. Maybe if I was put in your shoes and felt frustration from others calling me stupid, then maybe I’d understand why people want to feel special by believing in silliness.
@@patrickbaklava7297 I think your brain falls apart at the concept that the earth is so large that curvature over a small distance is negligible. But I'm going out on a limb by assuming you actually have a brain.
I was not even aware of this guy, FlatEarth Dave, until recently watched an interview he did with Rosanne Barr. I can’t believe that she was actually buying his shit! He barely made any sense in that interview. It started me down a rabbit hole though where I thought, ok let me see if there’s not something to this. That’s when I discovered your channel and also the “final experiment” Antarctica trip. I’m curious to see how the flat earth community is dealing with that. 😂 Anyway, thanks for your channel. You’ve definitely given me a lot of new rabbit holes to go down! 😂
They have already said that they're not even Antarctica. They never even left they're in Greenland etc I went to the final experiment video page like a week back and it was all these little idiots saying oh that's fake that's not real It doesn't change anything cuz you're going to still have retards everywhere
he doesn't have only one argument, but two, which leads to the question: how can someone say _"i don' understand globe earth and thus it's wrong",_ as well as at the same time _"i don't understand flat earth and thus it's true"_ ?
Yeah, and then tries to use the magnetic declination figures to prove a false statement!! Talk about moving the goalposts! This guy knows the earth is a sphere. He’s a con man. Only an idiot would claim to search for the truth and then show no interest in the beautiful mathematically correct globe model that ticks all the boxes, with no model of his own to compare with. Total scum bag.
If this guy knew how to do math he should have figured out that he was tricked by Prof. Dave and figured out that sun’s gravity pull on moon is twice as strong as earth’s pull on moon.
I most admit it was stupid not being able to follow along what he meant with the 89 degrees. The problem is that this flat earther don't take into account that the 89° happening in the morning from the spinn is a short living degradation of direct incoming light and not long living as in the case with the globes tilted axis. At one point during the day the sun is still ~0 degrees (with his termology). He compares hours of degradation of direct sunlight from the spinn with months of degradation of direct sunlight from the tilt.
To sum up a small bit of this: "Nobody has ever seen parallel rays!" "Have you ever seen train tracks that seem to meet at the horizon but are actually parallel?" "That's just perspective!" "Sun rays are just like that" "Nuh uh!"
@Virgil Blue - a mixture of special pleading (like the religious person who declares that the universe MUST have had a beginning and a cause and then denies that their god MUST also have had a beginning and a cause), and post hoc reasoning (earth is flat now let me see how I can cherry pick the evidence to support that), creates a heady brew of flerf nonsense.
@@ivankrushensky Prof Dave did not say the seasons were because of distance. Flat Dave brought up the 400 mile difference in winter, acted incredulous that we we're "supposed" to consider it negligible, and Prof Dave (correctly) agreed that it is negligible and asked why, if it's negligible, Flat Dave would even bring it up.
@@BillyG-mm2jy i hope to any and all religious figures that you are joking, if you are not, please redo the entirety of middle and high school and get the most basic fucking understanding of science, it takes almost zero effort to look at the flat earth argument and prove that it is utterly and inexcusably false. other flat earthers have accidentally proved the earth is round, a flat earth goes against every pillar of our modern understanding of the world. furthermore, there is absolutely zero monetary or political advantage to "hiding" the true shape of the earth. the flat earth 'theory' is one giant fuck you to the hard work of people much smarter than you could ever conceive and anyone who genuinely believes in a flat earth should seek and immediate mental evaluation and a crash course in critical thinking.
@@faikerdogan2802 nothing is more condescending than thinking a person knows more than millions of smart people in science over the last few centuries….the audacity is astounding.
Fun fact: Watching flat earth "durbates" is one thing that made me want to go to college in my early 40's and just last week I had a Professor Dave science video assigned as viewing material in my Physics class.
You are inspiring me to go to college in MY early 40s as well. Good job! Dave's book 'is this wifi organic' gave me the confidence that I can learn as well as in my youth
Literally his arguments throughout this debate is "I don’t understand it so therefore it can’t be real." Dude, if you don’t understand why 2+2=4 that doesn’t mean that the math is wrong. Same thing with science, if you don’t understand it, it’s not a problem with the science, it’s a problem with you!
I don't know why I put myself through such torture. He gave a near self explanatory 5th grade science lesson and the other guy just said no that's not true.
What dont you understand? We went to school too.. We saw faults. We checked. hmmm. Whats going on. And here we are. You or Dave dont have to remind me of that ok, you are few step after me.. .
Flat earthers just wanna believe the earth is flat cause I guess that proves the existence of a sky wizard that created them it seems to be a commonality with flerfs
Well, I'm a fan of Dave, but I have to say he fell flat (pun intended): His argument about the different direction of the stars assumes the earth has poles, and is therefore round. This is a "begging the question fallacy." There's actually two here. The other is that he assumes the stars do travel in different directions.
I like how we’ve all agreed that debating with flat earthers to change their minds is pointless so we just engage with them for entertainment and good content
If you use spherical mathematics, you could prove that the earth is a sphere. Leonhard Euler (a swiss mathematician, physicist, astronomer, geographer, logician, and engineer ) postulated that in the year 1753 ! If you draw a triangle on a flat surface, the angle sum of α + β + γ is 180° . If you draw a triangle on a sphere surface, the angle sum is slightly more than 180° The deviation from 180 degress is proportional to the area of the triangle.
The usual collection of misunderstandings, lies, incredulity and idiocy about the globe from flat derp Dave. He absolutely deserved the withering contempt Prof Dave showed towards him.
@@davidpearson6346 1) Yes, almost all of us ask ourselves this at the very least once, some of us ask this daily. 2) What the hell does this have to do with anything? This is like a flat earther saying “The earth is flat” and a scientist responding “But did you ask yourself how your day has actually been? Sounds like your closed minded” 3) “Sounds like you have a closed mind and don’t ask this question” you asked 3 questions
@@davidpearson6346 …. What on (spherical) earth…? Do I know what life is? In what sense? Do I ever wonder what we are or do I think I know? I mean… Of course I wonder these things all the time. I am not sure what point you think you’re making here. I don’t know everything which is why I seek out experts in fields I don’t work in. They have black and white evidence of the earth being spherical and can debunk every flat earth argument/model/whatever that comes up. Science is absolutely about having an open mind but once it’s proven to be a sphere there just isn’t a point to stay “open minded” in regards to flat earth. And it’s hilarious you think I’m closed minded, when watching this debate here, Flat Earth Dave constantly shuts down legitimate science that is explained and proven and can consistently be proven over and over again, and his rebuttal is how it just “doesn’t make sense.” Flat Earthers have proven over and over themselves that the earth is a sphere and yet still cling to this weird belief and conspiracy lol
Are you here to have a good time why dont you hang out with friends. This is about knowledge. Learn to listen. Dave is obviously a moron. Maybe the flat earth guy is too. But he talks about information, not nooo, no new information..
@@xyleblack2545pretty much all the flat earthers with youtube channels know very well that they're full of it. As mentioned in the debate, David Weiss has an app he makes money off of which uses the GPS to track other people with it. In other words, he uses a service that relies on the earth being a sphere for revenue despite denying that the earth is a sphere.
34:01 the absolute silence as flerf Dave realises he's a moron & the pure joy in professor Dave's eyes as he realises what has just happened is beautiful! This moment, along with the rest of this debate has made my week!
I actually love the point where FlatEarthDave shows 4 circles 1 hemisphere, 1 flat, 1 flat with different highlights and 1 spherical as a point to demonstrate that the earth is flat even though it definetly proves that the moon to the naked eye can appear flat even though its spherical because of the limits of the perspective. He made a point against himself and didnt even realize it.
Such a fabulous example of goal moving. Every time his “ doesn’t make sense “ is explained he immediately shifts to something else, as if that was the topic all along.
That's how propagandists work. They spew out their garbage so fast so that it can't be refuted, and so that the listener's brain focuses on the buzz words. Alex Jones is a great example
All jokes aside, this flat Dave guy was actually very calm and remained sober. While other flat earthers I've seen go apeshift as soon as their very own logic is contradicted.
That's what makes him the "flat earth messiah". He stays calm to keep the grift in full swing. If he goes apeshit he loses the grift and falls back under the rock where he belongs.
I suspect DIRTH is so stupid he didn’t even realise his assertions, logic and lack of basic education were being demolished and ridiculed at the same time.
@@redroverthefngamecat Still, quite a few flerfs have thrown Weiss under the bus after the debate, citing that Weiss was never a good debater, etc. Then they raise Dubay up on a pedestal...
Seems more like ignorance, he just simply didn’t understand or comprehend the points that Prof. Dave was making so he had no way to coherently respond.
The one thing that I don’t like about these “debates” is that they have a time limit. It would be fun to see Dave debunking these pseudoscience cranks for hours.
@@warpey5632 Also, how satellite TV works. My parents would definitely be watching Pakistani TV over satellite years ago, if you could access Pakistani satellites from the UK, but you can't because of LOS even with the largest dishes. It's different these days ofc with IPTV but that's not satellite
"The direction of your energy is changing" Meanwhile energy doesn't have direction... it's a scalar quantity it's literally unaffected by directional change
It would be a cool shirt haha. It would say "Don't be dumb and assume off the cuff senseless baseless ideas with no real understanding or formal education in a proffesional scientific area, like the study of Spectroscopy in an attempt to seem smart and simultaniously challenge a factual statement that entirely contradicts your argument." without actualy saying it.
By way of example if you travel West from Australia, after a period of time you would arrive back to where you started. Exactly the same would occur if you traveled East, North or South. Therefore nothing more to discuss, round earth proven!
@@rickmartin7596 not exactly true. I once worked with a flat earther in a factory and one day being fed up of his ridiculous claims I asked him why he was in such a small minority. As per usual with flat earthers he came back with a quick answer saying that he was in touch with thousands of like minded people all across the globe. I’m laughing now just thinking about it 😹😹😹😹😹
@@happyguy5414 The reality is more troubling than a few misguided fools trying to feel special. Conspiratorial thinking releases endorphins in the brain making the believer feel good. I suspect this becomes a drug addiction like any other.
@@rickmartin7596 I’m sure you’re absolutely right because there has to be a reason why ordinary American citizens suddenly become idiots voting for Trump and the republicans even though they know full well that he’s a liar and a dangerous idiotic conman who’s ambition is to destroy America!
Remember when your parents taught you not to lie - that when you lie, you have to keep telling more lies to cover the first lie and so on? FlatEarthDave had shitty parents, clearly.
It's really annoying watching people in the comments section clutch pearls over Professor Dave's occasional use of mean words while Flat Earth Dave apparently isn't an asshole for intentionally slandering scientists and science communicators. You can't have it both ways. Are they both assholes or neither? At least Professor Dave is justified in not being nice to a con man.
@@Nick-mb7wc Those questions aren't difficult in the slightest: Nobody is preventing you from going to antartica No, the experts aren't emitting hypotheses about the shape of earth. And naturally you wouldn't either if you watched just the boat disappearing from bottom to top behind the curvature. I suppose you didn't wait to observe that event? The real speed of translation of the earth is 30000 meters per second (or 67108,089 miles per hour) so already if you don't get the correct number no wonder you don't accept it right? That was obviously your only grip with that aspect right? The stars aren't fixed in the sky, a simple timelapse shows that and actual experts know that for example constellations will get deformed as time pass. Not even the north star has always been the same (once it was alpha draconis now it isn't) "Do I understand why we can see things significantly further than earth curvature would allow for" No you don't, otherwise you would have known about atmospheric refractions which is known from everyone that use a bit of optic. Ask Joshua Notwicky about it "Do i understand why we never went back to the moon?" Because it didn't bring that much money in and was therefore that well funded "Do i understand how we managed to get through a radiation belt, before we knew it existed, and before we set protection (lead) for it?" By going through where it's the thinnest "Do I understand why no other country wanted to walk on the moon" Because unmanned missions are cheaper and safer amongst other things "Do I understand why the moon, a solid rock no less, is transparent enough for me to see stars through it?" It isn't and you didn't see stars through it "Only people with permission can go to see Antarctica" The only permission you need is the one protecting you from the cold "Dont you think that is weird? You are being told stay away" You aren't "Why the pacts? why the unusual (non existent usually) agreement, honouring the control of this region? " What pact? The treaty of Antartica? The one declaring that you can't militarise Antartica or declare control over it? Kinda put a dent in the idea that you can't approach Antartica "Do i understand why we have no real pictures of earth from space?" We actually do, unless you can prove that all of them are completely fake Same thing for the moon "You all think you have seen the image of a black hole, and have no idea how retarded that is. " Well it's well known that the photo was made possible thanks to the disk of accretion around the black hole which did reflect light. Clearly you had no idea how retarded that paragraph of yours was "99.9% of people chatting crap on here, one way or the other, really dont know one way or the other. That you think you do is a healthy human dose of ignorance and a need to feel like you understand..... Which you do not." Still with the opinion? Give it up already "What do you actually know?" I know that earth is a sphere and that you can go to Antartica. The two have even been combined in the transglobe expediction. If I say more I'll look even more pedantic than I already do "I am worried for our species - And its because almost all of us are morons, and we re so deep in that well, that we cant even understand the depths of our own stupidity and ignorance...." Yes those are legitimate concern. Doesn't give you the right to suddenly ignore all pictures you don't like though "why are you talking like you are not a glorified ape???" Man isn't a glorified ape, he's just an ape
I’m a retired professor of medieval lit and history, and the person claiming that people in the Middle Ages believed the earth is flat - NO. There are references to the earth as a globe everywhere including The Canterbury Tales and medieval manuscript illustration, which I have seen... Also, the Greeks had already proven the earth is a sphere centuries earlier. The nonsense about the medievals believing in a flat earth was never a “thing” until the 18th and 19th centuries as part of Protestant backlash against Catholicism - they made up nonsense to argue that medieval Catholics were stupid. Sadly there seem to be a few stragglers living in 2024 are now taking all of this seriously. Sad.
They question history. You have much time invested in the study of it. But Google "Olmec heads". Look at them and see how they fit in with the history we are taught of the Americas. Or "Baalbek trilithons". I'm not professor but if you can't see by now that we have been lied to for ever, then your probably fully boosted and still wearing a mask
It always amuses me how people with zero hours of actual scholarly effort think they can refute everything even though they admit to not understanding anything.
@@BrandonDeft that's the same scholarly effort that produced the smart phone/tablet/laptop that you're using to type your insane bullshit. The same scholarly effort that enabled the bridges you drive over and vehicles you drive in. The same scholarly effort that enables speed of light global telecommunications and mapping of the human genome. Read a book you absolute cretin.
@@BrandonDeft if we can’t trust any level of mathematic or scientific education then we might as well just throw math and science out the window. The amount of people that would have to be lying about spacecraft, satellites, ship navigation etc would be just ridiculous. There has to be some level of trust in the basic understanding of reality not being an intentional lie or you can’t really have a functioning civilization.
57:24 if he’s talking about “what if the axis was almost laying down?”, then he’s obviously never studied Uranus. It’s axial tilt is almost laying down, and when it’s in its “spring and autumn” parts of its year, yes the sun heats the equator way more that the poles.
Right at the beginning, when he said lets fine 'common ground'; I pretty much died. You can't find common ground when you're literally not on the same planet.
I've seen someone else do it too. I guess the idea of establishing the so called common ground is to make flat Earth look reasonable or valid or something. Look, we agree on this, this and this and we just simply disagree on conclusion. If it's not that, then I have no idea what is the point of this common ground.
@@PrimoRocker Because someone that believes the Earth is flat is beyond reasoning. They are mentally unstable and lacking even basic education but are arrogant enough to think they are better than everyone else.
Watching this again after The Final Experiment, listening to FED denying Antarctic 24hr sun, and having turned down a trip to Antarctica, absolute comedy gold!
@@shanephillips8735 I know that, I watched the video that Dave posted when he talked about the final experiment. And what Duffy said about flat earth Dave. He said that I don't trust you or the demons that are with you the people you work with etc are demons That's where the joke came from. He literally stated that the demons are the reason why he wouldn't go. I know he's a fraud. I've been on this channel for about a year and a half making fun of flat earthers.
How they can claim that all of Physics, Astronomy, and Geology is wrong based on: “Why don’t I see any curvature” and “Government lies” will always remain a mystery to me.
A pattern that I see with, let’s say ‘conspiracy theorists’, is that they are genuinely curious and try to tackle assumptions which is also what scientists do. However, due to personal negative experiences they lack so much trust in authorities that we cannot agree on any basic level of science with them. I’m really interested in understanding why this phenomenon is seemingly increasing in most societies nowadays
@@samcarpenter9424 The science being discussed here predates "the government" by thousands of years. You could easily replicate the experiments done by Pythagoras for yourself, but you never will, you'll just childishly demand other people disprove your stupid ideas.
@@samcarpenter9424 if you live near a big lake you can see the curvature yourself, get some binoculars on a day with very little wind, pick a tree or any tall landmark across the lake, and this is the important part, lie down. if the lake is 5 miles across the curvature will cause the other side to be around 9 feet under the horizon, if you're standing the difference of around 3 feet can be difficult to spot, but near the ground you'll be able to see your landmark become obscured as you lay down.
thank god this guy didn't argue and just humiliated him. that's what these people deserve. i love how he dismantles him in the beginning " oh yeah lets prove earth is flat by analyzing how governments work "
Dave: Please continue debunking, debating, and going on the offensive towards these misinformation spewing snake oil salesmen. They have quite literally destroyed my family member's life and watching these peddlers get burned to a crisp by you is absolutely the most cathartic thing I can do in an evening.
@@JohnSmith-ce1pd that literally is not a direct comparison and not relevant to the earth being a sphere. just because you are too dumb to comprehend or understand something doesn't mean that the earth is flat. Get an education, loser
If I ever found out my nieces and nephews became flat earthers, I would find out which flat earther got to them, and that flat earther will get stuffed in a crate and shipped to Antarctica...or maybe I would just hang them by their thumbs.
May I ask how they destroyed this person's life? I'm not flattard by any means, I'm honestly interested because I've heard other accounts that may be similar, but if you'd rather not then I apologize.
Hey you! Yes you there, the thousandth person coming down here in a hissy fit to tell me how mean and nasty and unprofessional I was to that poor, poor, ignorant flat earther. Stop. You have zero perspective on this situation. Weiss is a con man who lies for a living. He knows he's wrong, he just spews a script of lies to make money on the internet. Politeness is a window to gish gallop and spread more lies, and you can clearly see how angry he got when I pinned him on every lie in his script, pressing him to respond to things he knew he couldn't respond to. He does not deserve respect. He does not deserve decency. He deserves annihilation. He deserves public humiliation. His remaining followers are impervious to facts and logic, so the only thing that works is a demonstration of what a sniveling, lying, pathetic little toddler he is. Also, no, he was not polite. The first words out of his mouth were to slander me regarding the content on my channel, and all he did was call me a "dick" every time I proved him wrong. He's a douchebag. And guess what? Even if he wasn't a con man he still should be treated this way, because politeness toward this "issue" would give the illusion of two "opinions" with equal footing. There aren't. The earth is objectively a sphere, as we've known for thousands of years, and anyone who says otherwise is actively calling all of science a lie, and literally all scientists liars. That's insanely offensive. This is how you deal with flat earth con men. Get on board or get out of the way. Got it?
Exactly this! Well said!
that ain't gone stop them so why try?
It's hard writing with a normal pencil, so I use a pointy one, pointy, pointy, pointy, pointy, pointy, point.
PU! What's that horrible smell?!
DRUM SOLO!!
In my experience it's a lot easier to convince someone of something if I don't refer to them as subhuman vermin. I wholeheartedly believe that this guy deserved everything you gave to him, but I disagree with the general sentiment that politeness toward a person you have a disagreement with gives weight to their argument. You can unwaveringly insist that someone is blatantly wrong about something without insulting them.
One more time to be absolutely clear though: Fuck FlatEarthDave
You could convince more people if you didn’t interrupt him and literally gaslight him into thinking he’s interrupting and changing subjects when it’s really you who never even acknowledges or understands his “stupid” point of view. You’re debunking what you THInK he’s saying and but it’s not what he’s saying half the time. Your Neil deGrasse Tyson tactics look better on his rude ass, with the actual TACT of patience and understanding the subject he’s trying to insult. Grow up and gain a perspective. You don’t really know Jack till you start acknowledging u don’t know everything about everything and everyOnE. We share this damn egg-shaped planet, and you’re a huge socially crippling, emotionally crippled, toxic douche of a human. Big words. You manipulate people to stoop to your level. Can’t believe I bit. Gross content by a gross soul. Be kind. And get your tech working. Let a poor fool defend himself just once if you’re so certain. Or don’t publish your incompetent attempts.
The earth is round get over it
If the Earth was really flat, Flat Earthers would think it was a globe.
Yep
And they'd try to go around it and fall off the edge. I guess. I don't want to think of how the science for that would....... oh hell i have coffee to drink I'm out
Right on . These dicks just don't believe in science or logic . Until , of course they get really ill and then , they rush down to the local hospital , a place full of science and logic . Ignorance isn't bliss Its pathetic .
I love when flat earthers refer to hemispheres in their arguments
If sciences claimed a flat earth, for sure he would defend a globe. Its all about anti science and government with these conspiracy delusionists
This guys ability to handle being called stupid and a moron every 3 minutes is astounding
Well, he's gotta be used to it.
I think should be illegal for him to be calling anyone else stupid while being a flat earther.
We like to call them Clout Wessels
He’s heard it many many MANY times before 😂
the fact that he literally knows everything to counter his arguments without notes, yet the other guy was probably running off a script which Dave didn’t see before just shows irrefutably how much more evidence there is for a globe than flat.
As an Argentinian, hearing someone say that a part of my country simply doesn't exist is so amusing.
There are some people who actually think Australia doesn't exist and everybody who claims to be from there are actors.😂😂
Also, in December, it doesn't receive more than 12 hours of direct sunlight and magnetics are pulling your vision to the same direction as Australians, when looking at the Southern Cross. Finally, all of this information is withheld from you at school.
You obviously work for nasa or something 😅
It’s the flat-earthers’ version of “no esistís!” 😂
Im sure that is so frustrating for you ! God knows I sure am haha
I really appreciate Dave’s harshness in this video. He’s not holding back at all and it’s refreshing. Flat earthers, and any other crazy conspiracy theorists spreading misinformation is HARMFUL to society and they must be held accountable. Hence why Dave is so “rude” to this guy because he deserves it and people need to see them for what they are.
Haha I don’t agree with them but I think flat weathers are probably the least harmful conspiracy theorists there are. They often overlap with actually harmful stuff but thinking the earth is flat doesn’t hurt antbody
@@IWannaGoMissingThe problem is believing in a conspiracy eliminates their ability to think logically and make them believe in other dumb things like anti vaccines during COVID so no the harshness is warranted.
I don't appreciate it..this is very hard to watch...so rude and condescending instead of listening and having a "normal" debate..you lost me Professor Dave...
@@IWannaGoMissinghe means all the people for all those years back doing years of research, for literally hundreds of years thousands and thousands of people are wrong, I know exactly where he’s coming from, it’s so rude to ignore the facts, wake up kid
I agree. I think people have become so sensitive that they refuse to call something obviously dumb, dumb.
Can’t believe a grown ass adult is asking “where does the sun go at night” level questions and then rejecting the answer
LOL😂
Hahahaha
It's mindblowing the iq of some people and that they are still able to function, eat, dress themselves, go to the bathroom.
Obviously the sun turns off at night duh. We flip it back on in the morning.
@@Abadeezyeah nasa just pushes the sun button
“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.” - Albert Einstein
Never heard that quote before. Thank you for that. Flat earthers prove that you can't cure stupid.
Took me a sec to comprehend that and Jesus christ
"The inferno of the wise is the paradise of the cretins".
In other words...
@@derekredgate1982 Matthew 12:36
@@derekredgate1982 yup. In fact his followers actively work to make the world worse every day. His savior also prescribes rules for owning slaves, carries out genocide, rape, incest etc.. also gives kids cancer. Hopefully he sees the superiority of secular morality and abandons his cult.
The most aggressive science lesson I've ever had.
Well deserved though
LOL
😂
Yeah, imagine Einstein and Newton speaking to each other this way?
@@gfi64 DITRH is a con man who lies and disrespects all scientists. He's not on the same level as professor Dave.
Flat Earth Dave REFUSED to take a PAID FOR trip to Antarctica this winter(Antarctic Summer). He should shut down his site and admit he is a scammer.
the type of person that would be a scammer, wouldn't do that.
"Oh no it's because he doesn't trust the person or the demons You know he's afraid of demons yeah."
His answer was evident that he doesn't have the balls to do it he just wants to sit there tweedle his little tiny dick to all the stupid people that believe him
@@johnqpublic7608 A scammer would not go to a place that forces him to see evidence that refutes everything he says. He is a defintite scammer; you might just be gullible
@@mandtgrant why tf should he go there his free to not go there and u got no evidence of anythin u live in ur own egg world that dosent make sense sientifcly or logicly its just some idiotic bulshit that ppl belive maybe one day the world will know how stupid we where and how idiot we where
@@johnqpublic7608Your logic is 100% illogical ... 😅
It's hard to win a debate with an intelligent person.
It's impossible to win a debate with a dumb person.
impossible with a moron, how dumb is this guy, i think his channel has comments turned off, i wonder why
@@lookingfortruth1930 found the dumb person
@@lookingfortruth1930 you proved Greg's theory correct...
@@lookingfortruth1930 it’s hard to keep your temper when you’re arguing with a moron
@@CSpad 😂
I laughed so loud when dave asked him "do you want to adress this thing or do you want to move on to something else" and homie straight face just says "I want to move on to something else"
Timestamp:
19:57
Admitting his only recourse is to constantly move the goalposts.
@@Chelseageezer34It isn't. If it was, then you would see Polaris in Chile.
@@Chelseageezer34ladies and gens, behold, a flatearther!
@@roaldruss4211 lol. Sweetheart, that's what you call a short bus candidate.
I'm about 35 minutes into this conversation and I am really glad that the Earth isn't flat because I would have rolled off the edge of it laughing by now
Yes now take your booster shot!! Go on!
Lol
Lol, that's funny 😁 😂
you forgot about the magic ice wall, my friend😌
Holy shit!! I'm 6 minutes in and that's funny af!!😂😂😂
Professor Dave is a hero we need, and he doesn't pull any punches when it comes to people who preach science disinformation.
The only thing a flat Earther fears is sphere itself.
This is so good😂
Dan 💯 STEALING THIS LINE 💯lol...
This was genius😂 Love it.😆
there's no way you made that up. pure genius. if u did, go into comedy
Awe man that’s the best comment ❤ being funny is a gift lol I can’t do it as much as I try to make a funny it never it’s it was confusing to whoever I’m trying to b funny to
Shaun looks like he’s very pleased that we’re distracted with flat earth, instead of focusing on lizard people wearing human skinsuits.
lol
What? My english is too bad but are you joking right?
“This guy knows too much…”
@@rodolfovaldes3149 yeah, he’s just calling Shaun a lizard hahaha
He looks like and alien!! Lol
This is something that would be on GTA 5 radio
I’m stealing this phrase😂😂😂
Oh... Yeah! You nailed it!
maybe a stupid question, but have they ever put a flat earther on a plane and force them to keep flying in 1 direction?
Haha, they should add this to GTA 6!
😂😂😂😂
0:14 why do i hear boss music
Dark souls 3: Vordt of Boreal valley boss fight!
Easy win, Dave absolutely recked Dave. Dave didn’t stand a chance against Dave’s superior reasoning
LMAO
I love that one moment when Dave went hushmode
Wait what? ✋️
Yes. It was a Double Dave Destruction Derby!
🎶These are the Daves I know I know, these are the Daves I know…🎶
It’s an old Kids In The Hall song, it’s pretty funny, look it up.
I am astounded that in this modern age we are spending this much time and energy refuting a flat earth.
It's more about exposing scammers.
I agree it is sad. Problem is there are many younger people who may be on the fence. If they are swayed back to reality because of stuff like this, I think it’s worth it. Just my opinion, but still you’re not wrong
On one level flat earth seems to be just harmless lunacy, but on another it is very definitely not. Remember, people who believe in absurdities can be convinced to commit atrocities.
@@erichodge567 exactly. I draw the line when they push this garbage flat earth stuff on children
@@cityslickerchickens5835 the flat earther in this very video is absolutely certain that the earth is flat. Wth do you mean?
"if the earth is round why doesn't this thing happen"
"it does happen"
"nuh uh!"
-this entire debate
The sad truth of human stupidity
the flat earth dummy didn't know about the new moon tides 🤦♂️
It was really funny... I've been an astronomy nerd for a long time and it felt satisfying.
And then the guy would sometimes repeat the same question but in different words "how did this thing happen if our world is not flat"
And Dave responds with, "I just explained that"
My favourite is flat earth Dave's insistence on an explanation for the sun orbiting the earth in order for the Eratosthenes experiment to have validity. It's an experiment in and about _geometry,_ and the geometry is valid provided there is relative rotation, regardless of where the centre of rotation is. If you think about it, it's only really once people started understanding gravity and its consequences that they had a way of distinguishing between geocentric and heliocentric models.
When you said "children can understand this", and I'm watching two adults who are arguing about it, I checked out. You're right the kids are smarter, they don't care, I promise. it's weird that anyone is entertaining flat earth.
Think of FE Dave as a pigeon trying to play chess. Lots of people are cheering this pigeon on, but that doesn’t change the fact he doesn’t know how to play. Dave Farina knows this, so rather than try and beat the pigeon in chess, he does his best to prove to the pigeon’s audience that he has no idea what he’s doing. He’s not entertaining FE Dave, he’s demonstrating live that he doesn’t understand what he’s saying.
Thats like saying it's weird to entertain a cancer in your body
“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain.
That door swings both ways.
"It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person" -Bill Murray
That makes me laugh. (literally, it's funny.)
"i love to poop" - mark twain
@@краузе11 full sentence is I love to poop in the idiots mouth.
Flat earther play book: ask simple question about science, completely ignore the answer provided, change subject and act like you won
a perfect synopsis.
And then ask the same "question" again claiming you are just looking for Da Troof.
BULLSEYE
Conspiracy nitwits always ask questions which they never do intend to be answered. It is their way of "trying to get you to think"
😅
The "Dunning Krueger Effect" comes to mind
"Why didn't tneTowers fall over sideways" (when the planes hit them) You will not get a word in edgewise in reply to the question
Yeah, you got it 😂
It’s a shame Dave let him deflect the tides question to “well how to YOU explain tides”. I was genuinely curious how a flat earther explains lakes, rivers and oceans rising and falling at different times all over the world in a world where all water is inherently horizontal .
Dubay just witters about "the bosom of the deep" without explanation.
The impression i get is that the windowlickers who fall for it have the impression that all the water goes up and down at the same time.
Which opens a whole new level of stupidity they refuse to notice.
"You're not understanding scale " is the most accurate assessment of flat earthers I've ever heard.
who is aerostasstathese, I think its the guy that invented large fake breasts, I think flat earthers are the group to piss people off
Lol! He was literally trying to suggest that the twin towers would have to get wider and wider the higher they go to stay parallel with one another if the earth is in fact a sphere.
So basically, in his mind the earth is a sphere about the size of Manhattan!! 😋
@@paulmurphy5244 🤣🤣🤣 I didn't even put that together yo that's crazy
Yes. And it is the same issue with multiple "conspiracy" theorists. There is a lack of understanding of scale for the size of the Universe, the distance across the Solar System, the age of the Earth, economy, population, government, and on and on. It is one of their defining qualities.
There are conspiracy theorists and then you have Flat Earthers. They're a whole 'nuther level.
I love the way the most integral pillar of flat earth guy's argument was the word "no"
We weren't really expecting much when the guy is a flerf...
Dave: gives a based explanation
That moran: "No!! You don't anderstend! the earth is flat because of an cosmological wind that efect the magnetic power and the curvature of the spiritual Dimond"
Flat earthers in a nutshell: 'why havent they done or shown this'
*gets shown that*
'no'
@@TherealdodojojomeDenial is the best proof.
@@pokmanl9810 "Did you murder this guy? We have video evidence of you doing it."
"No, I didn't."
"Ah okay you're free to go! Denying is all the proof we need."
"people live at the south pole?"
"yeah"
"prove it"
THIS PART REALLY GOT ME
He could literally fly to the South Pole, which would take about 24 hours, and see the people there with his own eyes. In other words, he could have completely disproved himself, aka proved the existence of people in the South Pole, in less than 24 hours from the time this podcast was recorded, then return 48 hours later for part two of this podcast (of a two-part series) in which he would have to admit that he was wrong. IT WOULD TAKE LESS THAN 48 HOURS ROUND TRIP.
@@purplepeopleperson3815 nO He CaNT tHE aiRlINe ComPAniES aRe In oN iT iTS nOt rEaLlY tHe sOutH PolE. Is probably what theyd say lmao
@@bearoperator5490 and that's why Dave didn't use the south pole but the southern parts of Argentina as his example. You can just _drive_ there by yourself. Literally _no_ dependency on any third party.
There you can experience 17 hour days for yourself. Or you can look to the south to see the Southern Cross, while talking on the phone to your FE buddy in South Africa (only 6 hours ahead) if he can also see it in the south.
Heck, for the issue of impossibly long days in the southern summer you don't even have to go that far: the FE model breaks down _noticeably_ far sooner. Days in the south should _always_ be shorter than days in the north, because of simple geometry (larger radius = larger diameter of the sun's path; but still only 24 hours to cover it = sun has to move quicker = days are shorter).
@@stephanweinberger yeah but you forget that everybodies personal dome has a personal sun. FE explained.
@@purplepeopleperson3815 But that takes EFFORT. Flat earthers are LAZY.
57:17 "if I tilt it this way, well now the sun is lower"
bro just explained the day/night cycle on a globe and he doesn't even realize it 💀
Lmaooooo true didn’t even realize that
You calling FlatEarthDave out every time he tried to jump to another topic and brush the current one aside was definitely one of the funniest things I've seen in a while
Didn't realise they share a name and got very confused
@@boghund lol I did too
Wow tuff stuff lol
Dave calling Dave out for Dave trying to change the topic after Dave gives Dave the L.
It's Dave-ception.
@@iloveplasticbottles "Dave ain't here, man!" - Cheech & Chong.
I used to work with a guy who is a flat earther. I never dismiss someone's beliefs out of hand without giving them serious thought and consideration. For that reason, I bought this book: 100 Proofs Earth is Not a Globe. I honestly believed and expected it to contain well written, thought provoking proofs.
However, the vast majority of the proofs were of a form similar to this: [statement that clearly demonstrates a lack of understanding of an area of science] followed by, therefore the earth is not a globe. A good deal of the others were simple personal incredulity: I can't believe that, therefore that's not true, therefore the earth is not a globe.
I had several discussions with this co-worker. I even created a diagram based on the flat earth model to demonstrate that what we see does not agree with the flat earth model. What I learned from these discussions is that science is wrong, math is wrong, geometry is a lie.
What I eventually realized was that flat earth is a religious belief and like all religious beliefs it does not require scientific proof. For that reason, providing scientific proof that counters the flat earth model falls on deaf ears.
In for a penny in for a pound as they say 😉
I wonder if it's better to use their arguments against themselves, like why do you believe this to be like this? What made you believe this is the way that it is? Why would everybody be lying to you? Basically just play out the entire scenario for them... As it mostly debunks itself
@James Bruce I have asked them why would everyone be lying to you. Why keep up with a worldwide conspiracy that involves every scientist, all teaching of science and go out of the way to adapt science and mathematical equations for systems that are based on the world being a sphere to keep up with this lie. Any time I do ask these questions they either change the subject, go on some crazy rant and call me stupid or just block me.
meanwhile the pdf version is free...
I'm the individual who understand very little about science but if this Moon and Sun is inside a dome why they do not fall to the ground like everything else
I've never heard of any of these guys before, but Shaun looks like an absolute supervillan.
It’s like he was on something
he kind of is lol
hahaha you should listen to his TED Talk video, you aren't far off
He looked so happy during the whole thing
True lol
I love that this video is blowing up again since the showcase of the 24 hour sun in Antarctica.
And they deny even that. It's insane
An actual scientist arguing with a flat earther "scientist" is like an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object
FYI The earth really is flat, it just identifies as round.
@@pargolf3158 I was going to make a joke about this being the one joke most people know. But then I remembered the vast amounts of sheep like transphobia that popped up in the Flerf movement around Patricia Steere. Particularly because she wasn't even transgender and... now I've decided your post has layers.
Good job!
@@Jermbot15 what? Ik what the one joke Is but what are you talking about lmao
@@beepboop9848 Well, the implication is that the Earth is similar to someone with untreated gender dysphoria. So it only appears to be flat to the least informed and most superficial viewing.
The idea of the Earth itself telling someone it is round, and them telling the Earth it's wrong because of how it looks is hilarious. Both as commentary on Flat Earth and whatever the medical equivalent is when some uninformed dipshit tries to cite some fact that comes straight from their imaginations about gender dysphoria.
That the Patricia Steered conspiracy theory revealed that the Venn diagram of Flat Earthers and transphobes is basically just a circle inside a circle added to my amusement.
This is probably the best representation of the "unstoppable force meeting an immovable object" question I've ever seen
I love how his whole argument is basically "I don't understand how physics, astronomy, etc...works so therefore I am right"
I don’t understand any of that stuff and professor Dave made complete sense and broke it down so simply (except for a few terms I don’t know the meaning of) that I feel like I could now easily destroy flat earthers.
The part of flat earth Dave trying to explain the seasons I genuinely have no idea what he's talking about. Is he describing the earth's rotation?
I just love how they think the moon and other planets are round but earth is the exception
@@kalabwhite8379 That's the qualities of a good teacher/professor. He knows how to break it down in a way that's easy to understand and comprehend, and he isn't afraid to get a little technical if he needs to.
@@yup6203 I genuinely wonder about that, but if they do think that that's just hysterical 🤣
Only one sentence sticks to my mind the entire video: "It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person" - Bill Murray.
not win but convince because winning is just being right which a flat earther is clearly not
Since when has science ever won an argument with religion? Religious people cannot be convinced by science due to beliefs blinded by faith. Flat earth people are the same.
Bill Murray? I think he was quoting someone else. But, eh- maybe im wrong.
Thanks for quoting a comedian/actor I feel so smart now, do you?
@user-lp3sm4cd9c you mean conman and grifter weiss? how do you treat liars and conmen?
This flat earth fellow is spouting sophistry, and doing an amazingly poor job of it. It is a rare opportunity indeed when one can hear such a steady steam of 100% foolishness. I can’t believe that this flat earther actually believes the utter rubbish. I suspect he just does this for a lark. It reminds me of the saying, “don’t wrestle with a pig. You get dirty and the pig likes it.”
He totally never believed it, he's just a low IQ grifter who thinks he's cunning reading a script.
Is the shaun guy secretely the Joker? He maintained that unsettling grin for 1 hour straight.
that's what I was thinking lmao
He's an ex drug lord
Lmao his face must hurt after that. Imagine if he went all in just as a joke and spent the entire time smiling directly at he camera. Would respect it.
I thought the black hole sun had come
@@Kaylakaze AND WASH AWAY THE RAIN 🔥
A good deal of these is:
"Then why does this not happen?"
"It does happen."
Professor: Explains in amazing detail the topic at hand.
Flat Earther: "That's stupid and I don't like it. Next!"
"Then why does this not happen?"
"It does happen."
Professor: Explains in amazing detail the topic at hand.
Flat Earther: "That's stupid,I don't like it and youre being a dick. Next!"
Made it perfect for you.
Precisely what they do.
he seriously said "the sun antarchs away from you"
“The amount of day and night that objectively happens in a place depends on *your* latitude?”
“Absolutely, 100%!”
“You’re saying that daylight isn’t from the sun??”
“aBsoLuteLy!”
16:44 "Why don't you stop condescending to the entire human race and pretending that every scientist ever is a liar and satanic deceiver. That's much more offensive than me calling you stupid. (Which you are.)" Better than the best Hollywood movie quote I've ever seen.
He forgot to add also that these flers call Einstein the R word ... the irony there is infinite.
What’s the R word? Retardant ?
*insert What I've Done by Linkin' Park*
Well said but it hard satanic people to see the truth when they will not questions the lies they believe in
@@pm1660 Hey "Einstein," It's EINSTEIN" ;)
This is like if I were to try to explain to my dog that the refrigerator doesn't magically make hot dogs
Bet your dog is smarter than a flat earther.
🤣🤣
Dave: "People work on the South Pole"
David: "PROVE IT"
I laughed my ass off here.
Just came across that part hahah dude thought he had a mic drop moment
Uhm
Which Dave said which line
@@deeperssjsk Dave is Dave.
We should raise money to have Flat Earth Dave flown to Antarctica during its summer.
"you can go to the South Pole"
"nuh uh! you can't!"
It must be just exhausting being a flat Earth supporter in 2022.
Why? All they do is say "no" to every argument so for them it's kinda easy
Wdym figured woke people would be tired but they’re still going strong lmao
@@FNSuperdopemusic nobody is ever too tired to type out a comment on the internet 😂
Its even worse to be a flat Earther in2023 and beyond!
I know this because of science 👍🏼
It’s actually really easy to be either dumb or lazy
I love it when Neil deGrasse Tyson says, “If I gave you proof would that change your mind?” And they say no. End of discussion.
And that's why Neil deGrasse Tyson come off as a more nice scientist than the scientist in this video.
@@freakybeaky1 that's right.. before arguing with an idiot, be sure they aren't also doing the same.. so we try to explain A sphere and his 3 dimensional world to A square and even once he sees the truth of depth it conflicts with a life time of conditioning to a faulty truth... and never suggest anything to the king of line land or they will deny its validity 8D
But yes.. you can't teach by belittling and you cant logic away a belief.. yet you can alter behavior by embarrassment and reward
@@RetroGamingMusicCom ... Neil just realizes the old adagium; "never argue with idiots, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience".
Wtf? That’s what schools for. Go back to school mate
HA HA HA. I don't think I have loved a video more than this one. Dave is now my favorite smart person. And dumbass dave is also now my favorite dumb person :) I want to see Dave debate more flat earthers or moon landing deniers. This guy should be everywhere! I just subscribed and joined.
"Spectroscopy needs to be in a container." - Flat Earth Dave
That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
@@huzzzer6083 saying all stars move with you was more stupid (different video) but not by much 😂
@@davidosullivan9817 stars do move....they orbit around their galaxies supermassive blackhole...
@@juub5171 no he said stars move with you as you move, is in if you move 10 meters left so do all the stars
@@davidosullivan9817 Yeah I specifically said "one of" because there's literally a library of things to choose from when it comes to flerfers.
It isn't funny to see an intellectual destroy an ignorant person, but to see him destroy someone who thinks is intelligent is funny as hell.
Owwy
Those are the exact theme things
@@blickygang8397 no what he means is, it's more satisfying to see a charlatan being put in his place compared to just an ignorant dude being educated.
I agree. Professor Dave needed to lay his golden fiddle on the ground at FEDs feet, as he failed to prove anything
@play36inadaygreenskeeperbe69 wait, are you saying the flat-earth guy was correct on more things than prof. Dave?
The fact that no one referred to this as a 1v1 Dave-Off is tragic.
we should get the other dave flat earth-debunker in here too
@@obsidianpizza Fuck it let's add Dave Grohl in there too just because he always makes any "Dave" gathering better 😂
Dave definitely won the argument.
I'm something of a Flat Professorist myself.
And I'm having a ball!
The duality of Dave
Prof Dave. Hope you read this. Tell old Davie there that if we were to tilt from 23.4 deg to 90 deg, the south and north poles would melt and turn to deserts or just seas, and the rest of the planet would die…. Geez, this is someone who cannot see in 3d. Or multiple motion vectors happening at the same time. Mmmm
that reminds me of a sci-fi book where people lived on a planet that rotated SO slowly, it's day-night cycle was three YEARS long!
you can tell him yourself. flat dave has the channels ditrh, flat earth zodiac clock, flat earth dave interviews.. he has a lot for his grifting and scamming.
I'm 54. I was around for cable tv, video games, home computers, the internet. In the last year alone, I have never watched so many stupid people spout out so much nonsense. Never did I think the internet would come to this.
Haha this is the best comment ever!
social media amplifies all human activity. crazy people have always existed and thought crazy things. now they have a megaphone to the world to influence others. we arent becoming dumber, we are becoming more connected. and that has its consequences.
This is the terrible downside of the internet. It's allowed the stupid and idiotic who would normally get shutdown by the majority IRL to loudly voice their sense of 'I'm special' and to find the people who not only already think like them, but to also manipulate and influence those who are vulnerable and prone to thinking like them. Those that feel misunderstood, oppressed, disenfranchised etc with their beliefs (rightly so). To now have the conformation and validation of others with similar reality denying and lack of fact acceptance trauma. Those who question hard facts and logic due to their association of it with and their dislike of authority and things beyond their mere comprehension and understanding. To seek each other out, group together and via emotional fuelled vengeance and white-knight platforming against ‘authority’ (aka those who actually know what they are talking about and so they have the right to inform you of things such as when you’re wrong and when thinking is flawed). Compounded by their use of the Dunning-Kerger confidence low IQ boost to be to too stupid to realise how little they know, thinking and believing they know more than they actually do. To infect and corrupt the minds and connect with more of their emotionally and cognitively insecure kind. The easily emotionally swayed and paranoid ‘big antigovernment sheep-following group thinkers’ amplified by algorithmic echo chamber of likeminded ‘others’ to them. Further confirmation biasing their thoughts and instilling a stronger self-confidence in their beliefs, both of themselves, and naturally, within their communities of delusion. Even group defending what they ‘believe’ their group thinks (emotionally, group attached and motivated. Can’t think for themselves as they depend on the group for bias confirmation and their false cognitive security) furthering the acceleration of nonsense spewing and disinformation-confusion spreading all while profiting of it via either attention, (controversially, negative or otherwise. As the ego-obsession for attention is greater than none at all) or profiting by money (and the encouraging support and applaud from their cult), only further confirmation bias that they ‘must be’ doing something that has value within it. As they gain from it, even a little is extremely motivating if they’ve never got much attention or recognition from anyone beforehand.
Look at the beginning of any new media. They all enabled the spread of awful information. One great example and comparison is steam powered printing in the middle of the first half of the 19th century. It created a massive boom in newspapers, and with all those newspapers came a huge demand for content. This is when tabloids started. These papers also would have been a great place for actual snake oil sales to thrive. My personal idea is also that this new media boom enabled The Know Nothings who were around in the US a bit after 1850.
All of this really matches up with how social media has boomed, and how the subsequent demand for content has enabled the spread of misinformation.
It's also worth noting that the current flat earth stuff is taken almost completely from a similar movement that was around in the late 1800's and early 1900's. There were books and public debates about the topic at the time. According to a history of publishing article, this was a time when there were a lot of new publishing houses opening, and book printing technology had made it feasible to print as few as 1,000 copies of a book.
There are definitely other examples that had varying impacts. Some are small media innovations like direct mail, email chain newsletters, and infomercials. Those definitely helped spread misinformation at a faster rate.
So, the question I ask myself is what could possibly be the next big media innovation that throws us all for a loop while we figure out how to become literate enough to consume it safely? We think we're super advanced now, just like they did in 1899.
Too long. Sorry.
It’s a relatively small group of morons who fascinate with their refusal or inability to accept facts.
The bald guy is definitely an alien
all bald guys are aliens!. That is why aliens never have hair!
Fucken guy was weird as hell the whole time
LMFAO! 😂😂😂
Flat earth must be the best alien reality show
I thought I was the only one thinking about it
You have no idea how much I wish this debate was longer than an hour.
They had a time limit because they used the free streaming program 😂 idk why they didn’t just pay for whatever app they are using so it can go longer than an hour
Agreed, I could listen to this for hours... or even days lol
😂😂😂😂
Uh huh. “Don’t interrupt”
I could watch it for hours, even days but unfortunately the flatearther would quickly ran out of his jumping away points.
I believe flat Earth Dave is disingenuous and just doing this for a grift. That's why humiliation is the best tactic against these people. You can try to meet them at their level and talk science, but that is their wheelhouse, it's like mud restaurant. Once you make them look stupid they lose followers and they lose their grift.
idk wtf "mud restaurant" is but I think I meant mud fighting
‘This is supposedly where stars are born. ……. How come, this stuff doesn’t collapse in upon itself?’
“It does. That’s how stars are formed.”
There has to be some other people out there that found this incredibly funny.
The upside-down thing was my favourite part.
😂😂😂 me!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Personally I thought turn left and looking up then turning right and looking to see different stars was the height of 5-year-old responses.
I spent half this video lol.
yup. the guys a dumbass.
This is the equivalent of someone who has never been to medical school, or doesn’t understand how the human body works, telling brain surgeons that they are wrong because “it doesn’t make any sense to me”.
It’s the absolute definition of an argument from ignorance fallacy.
@@patrickbaklava7297 it’s not a curved baseline to any noticeable degree - the earth is massive. And it’s not been a problem for ships over the centuries.
@@patrickbaklava7297 What does it feel like to live with a double digit IQ? I always wondered what it was like to be slower than the pack. Maybe if I was put in your shoes and felt frustration from others calling me stupid, then maybe I’d understand why people want to feel special by believing in silliness.
@@patrickbaklava7297 I see you are also having problems with the scope of the size of the earth
@@patrickbaklava7297
I think your brain falls apart at the concept that the earth is so large that curvature over a small distance is negligible. But I'm going out on a limb by assuming you actually have a brain.
@@patrickbaklava7297 So, you'll be entering, (and winning), the McToon navigation challenge?
I can't wait to watch that presentation.
😀
This guy avoids questions better than Kent hovind.
tbh unlike Kent Hovind, this guy at least had some respect for Dave to not interrupt him every 2 seconds.
Nobody does that better than Kant B. Humanoid.
Wasn’t prepared for that.
You're missing the point completely.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻 he does!! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was not even aware of this guy, FlatEarth Dave, until recently watched an interview he did with Rosanne Barr. I can’t believe that she was actually buying his shit! He barely made any sense in that interview. It started me down a rabbit hole though where I thought, ok let me see if there’s not something to this. That’s when I discovered your channel and also the “final experiment” Antarctica trip. I’m curious to see how the flat earth community is dealing with that. 😂 Anyway, thanks for your channel. You’ve definitely given me a lot of new rabbit holes to go down! 😂
They have already said that they're not even Antarctica. They never even left they're in Greenland etc I went to the final experiment video page like a week back and it was all these little idiots saying oh that's fake that's not real It doesn't change anything cuz you're going to still have retards everywhere
The funniest bit of TFE is they are producing different excuses that contradict each other but are, apparently, all true...
Flat Dave's only argument is "I don't understand it, so it's wrong"
Not at all the only one... Hes got "it doesnt make sense" as well...
Don't forget about "the controllers want you to believe that"
Also, "it's stupid, it's dumb"
he doesn't have only one argument, but two, which leads to the question:
how can someone say _"i don' understand globe earth and thus it's wrong",_
as well as at the same time _"i don't understand flat earth and thus it's true"_ ?
And, I can't explain anything, that as well.
"its hard to win and argument against a smart person"
"But winning and argument against a dumb person is near impossible"
-master oogway
Professor Dave won long ago.
An* not and
Also, Master Oogway said this! Really?
"The inferno of the wise people is the paradise of the cretins".
Hmmm... I thought Bruce Lee said that JK but it wasn't Oogway
it's not hard to beat a smart person if you're dumb lol
20:20 "You say it works because you can do math, but it doesn't" I've never seen this level of denial ever before
Yeah, and then tries to use the magnetic declination figures to prove a false statement!! Talk about moving the goalposts! This guy knows the earth is a sphere. He’s a con man. Only an idiot would claim to search for the truth and then show no interest in the beautiful mathematically correct globe model that ticks all the boxes, with no model of his own to compare with. Total scum bag.
If this guy knew how to do math he should have figured out that he was tricked by Prof. Dave and figured out that sun’s gravity pull on moon is twice as strong as earth’s pull on moon.
@@chenyansong no it isnt
@@kurtgoodridge1952 ?
@@chenyansong did you not listen to how dave explained how Newton's law of universial gravitation works?..
I most admit it was stupid not being able to follow along what he meant with the 89 degrees.
The problem is that this flat earther don't take into account that the 89° happening in the morning from the spinn is a short living degradation of direct incoming light and not long living as in the case with the globes tilted axis. At one point during the day the sun is still ~0 degrees (with his termology). He compares hours of degradation of direct sunlight from the spinn with months of degradation of direct sunlight from the tilt.
To sum up a small bit of this:
"Nobody has ever seen parallel rays!"
"Have you ever seen train tracks that seem to meet at the horizon but are actually parallel?"
"That's just perspective!"
"Sun rays are just like that"
"Nuh uh!"
@Virgil Blue - a mixture of special pleading (like the religious person who declares that the universe MUST have had a beginning and a cause and then denies that their god MUST also have had a beginning and a cause), and post hoc reasoning (earth is flat now let me see how I can cherry pick the evidence to support that), creates a heady brew of flerf nonsense.
FEDave has never seen sun rays through a hole in the clouds, I guess.
FE cult's whole philosophy is nuh uh, lol.
“When there’s a new moon, there should be higher tides, but there aren’t”
Every sailor ever: “the fuck did you just say?”
Every fisherman agrees with the sailors.
@@alexcollins3086 Every normal person can confirm.
As if how much shadow is on the moon changes it's gravity.
@benzene_sandwich
It has to do with HOW the moon,earth and sun are lined up together- increaes the gravitational pull..... (I just looked it up)
@@ivankrushensky Prof Dave did not say the seasons were because of distance. Flat Dave brought up the 400 mile difference in winter, acted incredulous that we we're "supposed" to consider it negligible, and Prof Dave (correctly) agreed that it is negligible and asked why, if it's negligible, Flat Dave would even bring it up.
"David. You are not listening."
"I am, you are just not saying anything."
shows how close minded professor Dave is. Like all these men of science are.
@@BillyG-mm2jylol I don’t think so, you can realise how uneducated flat earth Dave sound next to professor dave
@@dorianlevirapmashup4946 yes indeed. Educated by the system
@@dorianlevirapmashup4946 flat earth educated?? "Impossible"
-Thanos
@@BillyG-mm2jy i hope to any and all religious figures that you are joking, if you are not, please redo the entirety of middle and high school and get the most basic fucking understanding of science, it takes almost zero effort to look at the flat earth argument and prove that it is utterly and inexcusably false. other flat earthers have accidentally proved the earth is round, a flat earth goes against every pillar of our modern understanding of the world. furthermore, there is absolutely zero monetary or political advantage to "hiding" the true shape of the earth. the flat earth 'theory' is one giant fuck you to the hard work of people much smarter than you could ever conceive and anyone who genuinely believes in a flat earth should seek and immediate mental evaluation and a crash course in critical thinking.
49:21 - "Daylight doesn't come from the sun"- FlatEarthDave..OMFG!!!!!!!!!!....might be the stupidest comment ever made in all of recorded time !!
😅😅
A couple of decades ago calling someone a "flat earther" was a really, effective, funny put down...
It should still be. I didn't even know flat earthers existed a decade ago.
@@encycl07pedia- it is a really bad insult.
@C L S and they insult themselves by believing such nonsense.
It still is
To an intellectual person, it is.
Give Flat Earth Dave some credit. He stayed around for the abuse. He didn't storm off like Nathan Oakley would have.
Honestly Dave was extremely condescending Jesus
@@faikerdogan2802 nothing is more condescending than thinking a person knows more than millions of smart people in science over the last few centuries….the audacity is astounding.
@@JCMthebrand Bingo, 100%. The clown above you with the cute handle needs to understand exactly what you so eloquently posted.
@@justinbennitt835 I think Flat Earth Dave is as thick as they come.
@@faikerdogan2802 As he should be
Fun fact: Watching flat earth "durbates" is one thing that made me want to go to college in my early 40's and just last week I had a Professor Dave science video assigned as viewing material in my Physics class.
Surely you mean "derpbates"?
@@b0b5m1th flerfbates
You are inspiring me to go to college in MY early 40s as well. Good job! Dave's book 'is this wifi organic' gave me the confidence that I can learn as well as in my youth
@@b0b5m1th "dumbates"
Good on ya friend! I went back and finished my degree at 30. Best decision I ever made. It's never too late.
Literally his arguments throughout this debate is "I don’t understand it so therefore it can’t be real."
Dude, if you don’t understand why 2+2=4 that doesn’t mean that the math is wrong. Same thing with science, if you don’t understand it, it’s not a problem with the science, it’s a problem with you!
I don't know why I put myself through such torture. He gave a near self explanatory 5th grade science lesson and the other guy just said no that's not true.
😂😂😂
bro it's dangerous af, almost choked laughing my ass off
What dont you understand? We went to school too.. We saw faults. We checked. hmmm. Whats going on. And here we are. You or Dave dont have to remind me of that ok, you are few step after me.. .
@@aMessIam1 The I don't know part was rhetorical. Are you saying you don't agree with Dave's explanation?
@waketheprophet I mean all he has to do is photograph the Southern Cross from Sweden and I'll believe him.
It’s actually weird to hear someone ask a question and then when given an answer that makes complete sense immediately just walk away from it
Flat earthers just wanna believe the earth is flat cause I guess that proves the existence of a sky wizard that created them it seems to be a commonality with flerfs
Saying let’s move on every time lol
Saying let’s move on every time lol
Will this finally end the debate? :
The Final Experiment
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Well, I'm a fan of Dave, but I have to say he fell flat (pun intended): His argument about the different direction of the stars assumes the earth has poles, and is therefore round. This is a "begging the question fallacy." There's actually two here. The other is that he assumes the stars do travel in different directions.
I like how we’ve all agreed that debating with flat earthers to change their minds is pointless so we just engage with them for entertainment and good content
LMAOOO THAT'S WHY THIS IS VERY ENTERTAINING TO ME
Is that why they used so many logical fallacies? For entertainment purposes? I just figured they were dumb. Thanks for pointing that out.
They're exactly like the religious 🤷 they want to believe and " feel special"
What like 2016ish we evolved would you say?
@@jayo2654who are you saying used logical fallacies
If you use spherical mathematics, you could prove that the earth is a sphere. Leonhard Euler (a swiss mathematician, physicist, astronomer, geographer, logician, and engineer ) postulated that in the year 1753 ! If you draw a triangle on a flat surface, the angle sum of α + β + γ is 180° . If you draw a triangle on a sphere surface, the angle sum is slightly more than 180° The deviation from 180 degress is proportional to the area of the triangle.
The usual collection of misunderstandings, lies, incredulity and idiocy about the globe from flat derp Dave. He absolutely deserved the withering contempt Prof Dave showed towards him.
David Weiss kicked his fraudulent ass
“you have the intellect of a five year old”
Wow, that was so uncalled for. Five year olds have a much better grasp on this than flat earth Dave.
@@davidpearson6346
1) Yes, almost all of us ask ourselves this at the very least once, some of us ask this daily.
2) What the hell does this have to do with anything? This is like a flat earther saying “The earth is flat” and a scientist responding “But did you ask yourself how your day has actually been? Sounds like your closed minded”
3) “Sounds like you have a closed mind and don’t ask this question” you asked 3 questions
@@davidpearson6346 …. What on (spherical) earth…? Do I know what life is? In what sense? Do I ever wonder what we are or do I think I know? I mean… Of course I wonder these things all the time. I am not sure what point you think you’re making here. I don’t know everything which is why I seek out experts in fields I don’t work in. They have black and white evidence of the earth being spherical and can debunk every flat earth argument/model/whatever that comes up. Science is absolutely about having an open mind but once it’s proven to be a sphere there just isn’t a point to stay “open minded” in regards to flat earth. And it’s hilarious you think I’m closed minded, when watching this debate here, Flat Earth Dave constantly shuts down legitimate science that is explained and proven and can consistently be proven over and over again, and his rebuttal is how it just “doesn’t make sense.” Flat Earthers have proven over and over themselves that the earth is a sphere and yet still cling to this weird belief and conspiracy lol
Flat earth Dave has a phd in Dumbcuntery
An insult to 5-year-olds.
@@davidpoirierfilms exactly haha
The amount of times flat earth dave just instantly changed the subject the second his argument was annihilated is hilarious
I don't really know this guy. Do you think that he knows what he says is nonsense?
thats what they all do xD no matter which flat earther you watch they always change subjects
Are you here to have a good time why dont you hang out with friends. This is about knowledge.
Learn to listen. Dave is obviously a moron. Maybe the flat earth guy is too. But he talks about information, not nooo, no new information..
@@kathydoerscher9141 because literally everything he said was wrong?😂
@@xyleblack2545pretty much all the flat earthers with youtube channels know very well that they're full of it.
As mentioned in the debate, David Weiss has an app he makes money off of which uses the GPS to track other people with it. In other words, he uses a service that relies on the earth being a sphere for revenue despite denying that the earth is a sphere.
34:01 the absolute silence as flerf Dave realises he's a moron & the pure joy in professor Dave's eyes as he realises what has just happened is beautiful!
This moment, along with the rest of this debate has made my week!
I just watched it too!! its too good.
It's a tradition to watch this once in a while.
Yes!
I listen nearly everyday in work to daves different debunks abd debates
@@cyberpunkchloe9 Same for me i love it haha
I actually love the point where FlatEarthDave shows 4 circles 1 hemisphere, 1 flat, 1 flat with different highlights and 1 spherical as a point to demonstrate that the earth is flat even though it definetly proves that the moon to the naked eye can appear flat even though its spherical because of the limits of the perspective. He made a point against himself and didnt even realize it.
@@SOUPNPC
He's a flat earther what do you expect haha.
I bet these people believe in Terrence Howard 1×1=2
Such a fabulous example of goal moving. Every time his “ doesn’t make sense “ is explained he immediately shifts to something else, as if that was the topic all along.
That's how propagandists work. They spew out their garbage so fast so that it can't be refuted, and so that the listener's brain focuses on the buzz words. Alex Jones is a great example
I think Dave did a great job debunking Dave’s lies. Dave clearly won the debate against Dave. Dave totally got exposed!
Epic...
Yup! Dave definitely won..
Dave's not here man...
@@floorboss dude you know Dave didn't have a chance quit lying. Clearly, the overall winner by a longshot was Dave, duh...🤣😂🤣😂
@Brandocious 🤣😂
i don’t think flat earth dave understand how big earth is. not that i completely understand the size. but clearly we live on a globe.
No he's a lying dog turd he just wants to keep his act up to steal money from brain dead morons
All jokes aside, this flat Dave guy was actually very calm and remained sober. While other flat earthers I've seen go apeshift as soon as their very own logic is contradicted.
That's what makes him the "flat earth messiah". He stays calm to keep the grift in full swing. If he goes apeshit he loses the grift and falls back under the rock where he belongs.
I suspect DIRTH is so stupid he didn’t even realise his assertions, logic and lack of basic education were being demolished and ridiculed at the same time.
That's even more dangerous imo, but yeah points to him for being calm
@@redroverthefngamecat
Still, quite a few flerfs have thrown Weiss under the bus after the debate, citing that Weiss was never a good debater, etc.
Then they raise Dubay up on a pedestal...
Seems more like ignorance, he just simply didn’t understand or comprehend the points that Prof. Dave was making so he had no way to coherently respond.
The one thing that I don’t like about these “debates” is that they have a time limit. It would be fun to see Dave debunking these pseudoscience cranks for hours.
No amount of debunking will make these idiots shut up though, because they do not understand what they arebeing told.
@@HUNGRY4EGGS there is a decent chance in an argument that both sides will believe themselves more after than they did before
@@HUNGRY4EGGS 5 minutes? I can explain how time zones are not possible on a flat earth but are on a round earth in 5 seconds.
I could have watched this for HOURS.
@@warpey5632 Also, how satellite TV works. My parents would definitely be watching Pakistani TV over satellite years ago, if you could access Pakistani satellites from the UK, but you can't because of LOS even with the largest dishes.
It's different these days ofc with IPTV but that's not satellite
"Spectroscopy needs to be in a container"
This needs to be on a T-Shirt.
I wouldn't want to seem that stupid to others
It's the dumbest thing ever said by a flat earther. It just proves their immense ignorance of science.
@@imagod4796Oh I would!
"The direction of your energy is changing"
Meanwhile energy doesn't have direction... it's a scalar quantity it's literally unaffected by directional change
It would be a cool shirt haha. It would say "Don't be dumb and assume off the cuff senseless baseless ideas with no real understanding or formal education in a proffesional scientific area, like the study of Spectroscopy in an attempt to seem smart and simultaniously challenge a factual statement that entirely contradicts your argument." without actualy saying it.
By way of example if you travel West from Australia, after a period of time you would arrive back to where you started. Exactly the same would occur if you traveled East, North or South. Therefore nothing more to discuss, round earth proven!
But flat earthers can't see all that from the tiny windows in their mothers' basements.
@@rickmartin7596 not exactly true. I once worked with a flat earther in a factory and one day being fed up of his ridiculous claims I asked him why he was in such a small minority. As per usual with flat earthers he came back with a quick answer saying that he was in touch with thousands of like minded people all across the globe. I’m laughing now just thinking about it 😹😹😹😹😹
@@happyguy5414 The reality is more troubling than a few misguided fools trying to feel special. Conspiratorial thinking releases endorphins in the brain making the believer feel good. I suspect this becomes a drug addiction like any other.
@@rickmartin7596 I’m sure you’re absolutely right because there has to be a reason why ordinary American citizens suddenly become idiots voting for Trump and the republicans even though they know full well that he’s a liar and a dangerous idiotic conman who’s ambition is to destroy America!
Absolutely love that the flat earth guy's biggest argument is "nuh uh"
Or " that's stupid", or "that makes no sense".
He’s just in denial.
@@pokmanl9810 He's a liar monetyzing on gullible.
this guy is actually helping prove himself wrong every time he speaks
flat earther dave. it's just sad
@@kingdomgamer4hvn flat earth dave is a turd.
@@kingdomgamer4hvn dave farina is a douchebag though lol, dont like him in "debates"
Remember when your parents taught you not to lie - that when you lie, you have to keep telling more lies to cover the first lie and so on? FlatEarthDave had shitty parents, clearly.
lol
The downside of the internet is that idiots can easily connect with each other.
Worse than that, people can call eachother names that they wouldn't have the balls to say in person.
I'm a flat earther and support this message. It's all in interpretation. 😂
It's really annoying watching people in the comments section clutch pearls over Professor Dave's occasional use of mean words while Flat Earth Dave apparently isn't an asshole for intentionally slandering scientists and science communicators.
You can't have it both ways. Are they both assholes or neither? At least Professor Dave is justified in not being nice to a con man.
Flat Earthers: wHy DOn’T yOu dEbAtE uS?
Scientist: Okay.
Flat Earthers: No, not like that.
Underrated comment xDDD
Hilarious. He straight ran from like ten topics as he got smacked on. 😂
With all the flat earth facts and information even NASA puts out! It's clear no one bothers to research the truth for themselves!..
@@kingveteran9100 U another flat earth nut job?
@@Nick-mb7wc Those questions aren't difficult in the slightest:
Nobody is preventing you from going to antartica
No, the experts aren't emitting hypotheses about the shape of earth. And naturally you wouldn't either if you watched just the boat disappearing from bottom to top behind the curvature. I suppose you didn't wait to observe that event?
The real speed of translation of the earth is 30000 meters per second (or 67108,089 miles per hour) so already if you don't get the correct number no wonder you don't accept it right? That was obviously your only grip with that aspect right?
The stars aren't fixed in the sky, a simple timelapse shows that and actual experts know that for example constellations will get deformed as time pass. Not even the north star has always been the same (once it was alpha draconis now it isn't)
"Do I understand why we can see things significantly further than earth curvature would allow for"
No you don't, otherwise you would have known about atmospheric refractions which is known from everyone that use a bit of optic. Ask Joshua Notwicky about it
"Do i understand why we never went back to the moon?"
Because it didn't bring that much money in and was therefore that well funded
"Do i understand how we managed to get through a radiation belt, before we knew it existed, and before we set protection (lead) for it?"
By going through where it's the thinnest
"Do I understand why no other country wanted to walk on the moon"
Because unmanned missions are cheaper and safer amongst other things
"Do I understand why the moon, a solid rock no less, is transparent enough for me to see stars through it?"
It isn't and you didn't see stars through it
"Only people with permission can go to see Antarctica"
The only permission you need is the one protecting you from the cold
"Dont you think that is weird? You are being told stay away"
You aren't
"Why the pacts? why the unusual (non existent usually) agreement, honouring the control of this region? "
What pact? The treaty of Antartica? The one declaring that you can't militarise Antartica or declare control over it? Kinda put a dent in the idea that you can't approach Antartica
"Do i understand why we have no real pictures of earth from space?"
We actually do, unless you can prove that all of them are completely fake
Same thing for the moon
"You all think you have seen the image of a black hole, and have no idea how retarded that is. "
Well it's well known that the photo was made possible thanks to the disk of accretion around the black hole which did reflect light. Clearly you had no idea how retarded that paragraph of yours was
"99.9% of people chatting crap on here, one way or the other, really dont know one way or the other. That you think you do is a healthy human dose of ignorance and a need to feel like you understand..... Which you do not."
Still with the opinion? Give it up already
"What do you actually know?"
I know that earth is a sphere and that you can go to Antartica. The two have even been combined in the transglobe expediction. If I say more I'll look even more pedantic than I already do
"I am worried for our species - And its because almost all of us are morons, and we re so deep in that well, that we cant even understand the depths of our own stupidity and ignorance...."
Yes those are legitimate concern. Doesn't give you the right to suddenly ignore all pictures you don't like though
"why are you talking like you are not a glorified ape???"
Man isn't a glorified ape, he's just an ape
I’m a retired professor of medieval lit and history, and the person claiming that people in the Middle Ages believed the earth is flat - NO. There are references to the earth as a globe everywhere including The Canterbury Tales and medieval manuscript illustration, which I have seen... Also, the Greeks had already proven the earth is a sphere centuries earlier. The nonsense about the medievals believing in a flat earth was never a “thing” until the 18th and 19th centuries as part of Protestant backlash against Catholicism - they made up nonsense to argue that medieval Catholics were stupid. Sadly there seem to be a few stragglers living in 2024 are now taking all of this seriously. Sad.
Yep
They question history. You have much time invested in the study of it. But Google "Olmec heads". Look at them and see how they fit in with the history we are taught of the Americas. Or "Baalbek trilithons". I'm not professor but if you can't see by now that we have been lied to for ever, then your probably fully boosted and still wearing a mask
How can these flat earthers be so stupid & idiotic?
And be sure that their so smart/
This is absolutely astounding
sadly, i personally know two flat earthers. it seems to be a growing phenomenon (ironic, considering how easy it is to look things up in modern times)
Absolutely. I suspect there are more flat-earth believers today than there were in the Middle Ages and we haven't hit peak stupidity yet!
It always amuses me how people with zero hours of actual scholarly effort think they can refute everything even though they admit to not understanding anything.
Dunning Kruger effect
@@BrandonDeft that's the same scholarly effort that produced the smart phone/tablet/laptop that you're using to type your insane bullshit. The same scholarly effort that enabled the bridges you drive over and vehicles you drive in. The same scholarly effort that enables speed of light global telecommunications and mapping of the human genome. Read a book you absolute cretin.
@@BrandonDeft what have you done to come to your conclusions then?
@@BrandonDeft dude reads the communist manifesto and thinks he knows everything
@@BrandonDeft if we can’t trust any level of mathematic or scientific education then we might as well just throw math and science out the window. The amount of people that would have to be lying about spacecraft, satellites, ship navigation etc would be just ridiculous. There has to be some level of trust in the basic understanding of reality not being an intentional lie or you can’t really have a functioning civilization.
57:24 if he’s talking about “what if the axis was almost laying down?”, then he’s obviously never studied Uranus. It’s axial tilt is almost laying down, and when it’s in its “spring and autumn” parts of its year, yes the sun heats the equator way more that the poles.
This entire debate boils down to "I don't understand basic math"
It might help the "debate" if flat earth guy watched and studied Dave's math and physics tutorials. Oh wait, then there would be no debate.
FE Dave is a dumb dumb
😂😂😂16:25
well it would be highlight if it would boil down to it, but some arguments did not even required it
Neither do I, but I'm still not a flat earther.
It's not a debate...you can't debate facts.
Right at the beginning, when he said lets fine 'common ground'; I pretty much died. You can't find common ground when you're literally not on the same planet.
find*
Be it a spherical or flat one.
They say ‘Once you go flat, you never go back.’ I’ve actually tried convincing myself the earth is flat (I’m a masochist) and I just can’t do it.
I've seen someone else do it too. I guess the idea of establishing the so called common ground is to make flat Earth look reasonable or valid or something. Look, we agree on this, this and this and we just simply disagree on conclusion. If it's not that, then I have no idea what is the point of this common ground.
@@PrimoRocker Because someone that believes the Earth is flat is beyond reasoning. They are mentally unstable and lacking even basic education but are arrogant enough to think they are better than everyone else.
27:35 David Weiss: "If you understand what the flat Earth model is... "
Professor Dave: "You don't have a model."
Exactly. He didn't let the flat earther finish one point.
@@rubberchix what point? Lol
@@rubberchix what point?
@@rubberchix what point?
Ultrabased.
Watching this again after The Final Experiment, listening to FED denying Antarctic 24hr sun, and having turned down a trip to Antarctica, absolute comedy gold!
He actually turn down the trip because of demons
@66bloodmoon He actually turned it down as he's a grifter knowing he was gonna prove himself wrong
@@shanephillips8735 I know that, I watched the video that Dave posted when he talked about the final experiment. And what Duffy said about flat earth Dave. He said that I don't trust you or the demons that are with you the people you work with etc are demons That's where the joke came from. He literally stated that the demons are the reason why he wouldn't go. I know he's a fraud. I've been on this channel for about a year and a half making fun of flat earthers.
How they can claim that all of Physics, Astronomy, and Geology is wrong based on: “Why don’t I see any curvature” and “Government lies” will always remain a mystery to me.
Has the government ever lied? Can you measure curvature?
@@samcarpenter9424😂😂😂😂😂 flat earth alert
A pattern that I see with, let’s say ‘conspiracy theorists’, is that they are genuinely curious and try to tackle assumptions which is also what scientists do. However, due to personal negative experiences they lack so much trust in authorities that we cannot agree on any basic level of science with them. I’m really interested in understanding why this phenomenon is seemingly increasing in most societies nowadays
@@samcarpenter9424 The science being discussed here predates "the government" by thousands of years. You could easily replicate the experiments done by Pythagoras for yourself, but you never will, you'll just childishly demand other people disprove your stupid ideas.
@@samcarpenter9424 if you live near a big lake you can see the curvature yourself, get some binoculars on a day with very little wind, pick a tree or any tall landmark across the lake, and this is the important part, lie down. if the lake is 5 miles across the curvature will cause the other side to be around 9 feet under the horizon, if you're standing the difference of around 3 feet can be difficult to spot, but near the ground you'll be able to see your landmark become obscured as you lay down.
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
- Mark Twain
Ans. U dont argue with them. You demolish them and dont let them speak at all.
Or you do like professor Dave did and pull them back to the point rather than let them try to bounce all over the place.
thank god this guy didn't argue and just humiliated him. that's what these people deserve. i love how he dismantles him in the beginning " oh yeah lets prove earth is flat by analyzing how governments work "
Yea kind of embarrassing to even debate them honestly 😂
Dave: Please continue debunking, debating, and going on the offensive towards these misinformation spewing snake oil salesmen. They have quite literally destroyed my family member's life and watching these peddlers get burned to a crisp by you is absolutely the most cathartic thing I can do in an evening.
@@JohnSmith-ce1pd that literally is not a direct comparison and not relevant to the earth being a sphere. just because you are too dumb to comprehend or understand something doesn't mean that the earth is flat. Get an education, loser
@@JohnSmith-ce1pd please don't make fake accounts :D
@@JohnSmith-ce1pd th-cam.com/video/ghJGnMwRHCs/w-d-xo.html
Sure. Absolutely no problem.
If I ever found out my nieces and nephews became flat earthers, I would find out which flat earther got to them, and that flat earther will get stuffed in a crate and shipped to Antarctica...or maybe I would just hang them by their thumbs.
May I ask how they destroyed this person's life? I'm not flattard by any means, I'm honestly interested because I've heard other accounts that may be similar, but if you'd rather not then I apologize.
Is it wrong that I return to watch this for entertainment purposes only?
No I do the same thing
@ whew thought it was jus me😅
Nope
It's a good laugh
We all do