That was terrifying. The road surface, the oncoming traffic, the questionable lines and corner entry speeds… if you misjudge the entry to one of those corners and run just a little wide, it’s lights out. If you’re not a pro racer, leave yourself a little margin, people. It’s better to live to ride another day than ride on the edge until you go over it…
Road surface looked amazing, but everything else I have to agree!! Taking blind corners at high speed and on the on-coming lane, edgy overtakes. Felt zero caution in this video, they are lucky the worst that they got is a busted bike and a small bruise.
honestly it's amazing how long it took before this safa idiot crashed. every single video of his has been nothing but risky and entitled riding that gives road cyclists a bad name
Following these videos for quite a while now and over time they got more and more silly and we've gotten to a point where there is hardly any respect to other road users or corners you can't see through anymore. You're just sending it no matter what's coming. I get it, thrill and adrenaline are a hell of a drug and you will need more and more over time to satisfy your brain but when is it enough?
@@jonfrderickwhen they overtook a couple of cars at the apex of left turns, while blatantly straddling the oncoming traffic lane lol. And don’t get me started on the blind spots they haphazardly zoomed through.
@@achiltsompanos447 the riders deffintly paid attention when going through blind spots that there would be nothing and whats wrong with overtaking cars on apex's if you know nothing is coming the other way.
@@achiltsompanos447 ,They could both see down the road around those bends, you could see them check before committing on the hair pin overtakes, it's a pretty easy manoeuvre when the cars are are only going 10-15mph (with loads of space to get round; a whole lane).
you might have a point there. I mean some car drivers are so disrespectful and dangerous, but some of us cyclists are also very disrespectful and it's not usually the car the one paying the consequences. Other than that the video is really well filmed. Hope he is recovering well
At 72 years of age and many years of riding, there is a limit on the number of times your body will absorb accidents like this. At 71 I retired to Zwift.
@@ForGlory1 At age 74, I've had too many crashes not going anywhere near this speed. No thanks, I'll play it safe so I can ride another day. Safety before performance.
I hear you! Years of abuse from MTB, Hockey, Fixed crit etc and my 52 year old body is fully aware of it's age. I just hope to have no miles left on this body when I am done with it.
I had a terrible crash this September when descending a funny small descent near Kraków in Poland. It was caused by oil spilled on the road. It feels like entering the ice. A nightmare. I have broken a few bones. Luckily, nothing too serious, so I had a break from any activities for about 6 weeks. Keep in mind these kinds of unpredictable things can also happen!
I was exactly thinking "he's comin in pretty fast in this corn... yup😅" stay safe out there, i never have gotten more scary overtakes than climbing Nufenen, don't let it get to you on the way down. Laser focused and lightning fast
I was on the Grimsel, just one pass further north on a day, when a female cyclist died. She apparently slipped in a curve at the entrance of a tunnel than I know by heart and a motorbike coming the other direction ran over her. I didn't witness the crash, but I waved at her a bit earlier, when I went up and she came down. I have seen a guy flying over the rail at the other side of the Nufenen, the seconds braking not to run into his bike, praying that he at least moves (he fell approx. 10m down), calling the ambulance were the longest in my life. I have also seen the jersey of Roger Nachbur at the Oberalp two weeks after his crash (which I know, was not his fault), I went this summer through the curve at the south of the Albula, one of my favourite passes, just weeks after Gino Mäder. Now, I have crashed too, but you are putting your life at risk, and you entice others to do the same thing. And you give cyclists a bad reputation.
@@JourneyToJacked Sure, they cannot force anyone to do something and most people will just shake their heads and think "I'm not as silly as that". But it may motivate others to do similar stuff. And just look at the many followers and positive comments. And they do leave a bad reputation. That driver he overtook in the curve may next time he sees me on the same road think "those crazy ..." and behave differently. We all have to behave responsibly to leave a positive impression as a whole.
@@wraith8323 You think, this is funny? I don't. And I love cycling. Had this been an outside curve at the Grimsel oder the Furka or Gotthardo nearby, where it goes down vertically 50 m, he would be dead now. Had the car coming up been there a few seconds leater, he would be dead.
Hate to say it - and I know this will make me sound like an a-hole (but it's really just meant for future safety), but that crash looked fairly inevitable. There was clearly a bit of sand (or similar) on the corners, your inside knee dropped in way too far, your weight was a long way forward. There's a reason we can't push limits on road bikes, and this is it in a nutshell. I had a similar crash in the French Alps and still don't know what caused it (most of the above I would guess) and I learnt from it (in terms of speed and risk). Hope you do too.
4 times my front wheel slipped under me and I pulled it back, he just went into that corner too hot, didn't have the margins to save it after hitting sand
No comment...an old friend died after 2 weeks coma after having crashed alone on the Ventoux last summer...he was a very good rider, downhill included...on open roads that' s quite foolish because of the threat of incoming cars : on closed roads racers don't have to keep right when ngetting out of the curve !
😢 That’s my local hill. There are bits of the descent towards Bédoin in a narrow, twisty canyon that are incredibly dangerous. People die on that mountain every summer season.
Check out the shape of the turn from the video 30 seconds ahead. You can clearly see the radius tightens very dramatically and that’s something that catches people out a lot. The entrance to the turn shows a gradual arc while the latter half is significantly tighter. These are the most dangerous corners when you’re riding aggressively.
On Angeles Crest Highway in SoCal there’s a double apex left hander with a decreasing radius, they call it “Squid’s Leap” for all the young dumb motorcyclists who have flown over the side 😂
The decreasing radius looks like the underlying problem. He loses traction the moment he tries to adjust for the tightening radius, which seems like the safest decision on a right hand turn. He had enough road to drift out more, but that’s a risky call. He might have stayed up if he did that though. He’s a fast agile descender no matter what happened here.
Also he moved his body more inside and down in this moment reducing pressure on tire. With the gravity center more outside it would not have happened. Bad corner technique
He was saying how he grabbed to much brake which caused the low-side crash. And while that's possible, I think he honestly just asked too much of his tires in the grip department. He had one hell of a lean angle, and you can see the rear tire start to let go right before the front tire gives up. It happens, hope he heals up quick! Edit: Actually this is somewhat wrong. He loses the front tire first, and then the whole bike goes down.
That’s exactly what I thought, it was a very aggressive turn in and lean angle. With the benefit of hindsight, it seems pretty obvious from the video but hey, we all make mistakes.
Feeling like he took pressure off the left foot too early on that turn. Wouldn't have been a prob if there's just a teeny bit more speed. He scrubbed hard entering that hairpin. Unsure if he was still holding on to the rear brake slightly, even. Unfortunate, and hope he didn't get hurt too much.
I have mixed feelings about this. The footage is a joy to watch, but on the other hand, let's be honest: it is on-the-edge riding on public roads and this eventually leads to crashes once in a dozen of such epic descents. Doing a "best-of" descending tour perhaps has a higher risk of crashing than an actual world tour pro because they don't go to 9 or 10/10s in the bunch, they don't have to worry about oncoming traffic in line choice at any point and it is pretty rare that somebody actually goes full Pidcock mode on a Gran Tour stage, certainly not the full peloton. The car passes look easy but coming in at 60 kph 50 meters before a tight corner and overtaking right into it is something that would be considered pretty reckless driving in a car, even though I've been there: drivers are so ridiculously slow at times that it doesn't even require much skill and bravery to overtake when they are just driving 15 kph or even less but imo you shouldn't just go around like a maniac. They'll probably be as slow on the following straight that all you have to do is fly by with less risk of miscommunication (or lack of communication).
All you are saying is true, but don’t imagine that these guys give a single fuck about it: they are adrenaline junkies who are happy to impose their high risk taking on other road users
I admit that I don't understand the risk-reward calculations here. You could have basically the same experience by reducing the speed by 15km/h on average and the risk would drop to 5%... Hope you get well.
Not even the top speed. Just don't cut corners totally blind, leave room for error when being next to other vehicles and overtaking (yes, the car in front of you does have brakes) and leave room for error in the curves. This way of cycling is suicidal and it gains you next to nothing, but chances are that your next ride is on a handbike. Admittedly, drivers in france are nicer than in switzerland and actually let you pass when they see you in their rear mirror, and it is a nuisance if you spend an hour to two hours going up, and they block you (i.e. responsible cyclicsts who leave a distance and don't overtake on the outside of the curve) on your 15-30 minutes joy ride down, just out of principle (takes 5 seconds, rear indicator, take the foot off the accelerator, and enjoy watching the cyclist from behind).
@@l.d.t.6327 No I don't. 15km/h less on average is a lot slower. Accident-risk does not increase linearly with speed. The chances of something happening with 15km/h less speed is a lot lower and the expected injuries from lower-speed crashes a lot less severe. All in all, I would guess that the to be expected injuries drop to 5% with 15km/h less speed. Of course we would need hard data for this. So run the experiment 10000 times and count all the crashes/incidents/injuries in both cases...
The red hatchback driver must have though "bloody donors", when you passed him at 3:20. Then at 5:53 I'm sure he thought "I knew it". Hope the fella was OK and is back to riding already.
Yes and cyclist needs to respect other road users. Overtaking a car on a bend on the wrong side of the road is wrong plain and simple. It's a public road, not a private racetrack.
@@MJarthur95 idk, at that spot the car is not going to suddenly start speeding up to prevent a pass as you can see later in the video on the straight, which is unsafe. I'm not saying that what this guy does is safe by any means, he crazy dumb. But that specific spot wasn't too bad to make a pass if you're on a bike.
tbh the overtake of the green SUV at 3:51 looked far more risky to me. Going around the outside of a car on a hairpin is asking for trouble. They passed the red car safely I think
I think that's probably the best remote diagnosis. Turning in early, backing off and turning again just puts you at a narrower line and you have to make a tighter turn. Not sure what the jink was for (some additional braking?) but it put him in a (too) tight turn, plus he had to lean in later than he wanted to. Mix that with a bit too much speed and an imperfect line, woosh ...
Might have something to do with the oncoming rider (in the corner, did not go all the way out) and car (after the corner) to give them a bit more space. But yeah, a speed that was too high (this was a tight turn!) for this imperfect line lead to the fall. :( Speedy recovery!
@@alamogiftshopYeah. I was thinking the same. He was turning in way too early on most of those hairpins. That's why he had to over-correct as that final hairpin tightened up.
Thanks for sharing this. I crashed 2 years ago in almost the exact same mechanism of crash. Broken collar bone, shoulder blade and punctured lung. I hope your friend got off a lot easier. I thought the same thing at the time that I slid out or grabbed a bit too much brake. However it's caused by being leaned over to near maximum and then giving a tiny amount of additional steering input. The front fork hits the point where it has negative effective trail and tries to pivot around to the inside of the turn. You can see in slow mo the front wheel binds and further turns right rapidly. At that point wheel stops spinning and starts skidding and then you splat hard to the inside of the turn. It made me realize how close I come to this pivot point all the time on a fast decent in sharp corners. Be careful out there as once you hit this pivot point it is impossible to recover and happens nearly instantly. Super fun to see such a beautiful decent taken with such grace.
Moments like at 13:31 I can not understand. You are taking a blind right corner at 60 km/h speed. If you would lose control and slide who knows what happens to you and in this case a fucking truck was right there you would be flattened by the wheels before the trucker could even react! Taylor was lucky it happened at a place with "ran-off" area and no on-coming traffic. I know the thrill, I understand the urge to set records, but I just don't understand how can someone be this reckless.
Experience doesn’t trump physics! As Safa says he went in too hot here. On the corners before he’s still going fast but entering around 40k and hitting the apex around 32-35. On this one he steams in at over 50 and hits the apex at 40 and loses grip. Inevitable when cornering at those speeds. As someone else has said this looked sketchy right from the start for some reason. Very twitchy and not as smooth as usual. Stay safe everyone 🙏 especially you daredevils!
also on completely slick tires 28mm wide,when they cornering there is probably only 10mm touching surface.in this video they basically riding on the limit that this tire can offer
I hope he's ok. It was good there weren't any cars when he crashed. I have to get back another Bike Trainer. I got rid of my previous one when I moved into another apartment and I thought I would never get back into my Roadie ever again. I recently got back into it again and have been consistently riding on the weekends for the past 5 months then lost 33 lbs. Now that I've discovered this channel I need another bike trainer and turn this channel on so I can feel like I'm part of the ride outdoors in case of unprecedented events I can't go. I leave this channel on while I'm doing chores inside the house because it's very therapeutic to me. I love the sounds of the tires making contact on the ground, the sound of the wind, and the noise it makes when changing gears!
He did the same thing at 4:00 where he tried to show off to the motorcyclists. You could see him stand the bike up because he had too much speed to brake a bit more.
I’m so frustrated falling like that by now that I strongly prefer 40+ mm slicks over any 28 mm-ish road tyres for descending. They let you be much more confident in corners with wet or bad asphalt, off-camber, winding-up curvature, etc. Luckily, there are now fast compound rubbers with progressive widths
If you ain‘t got a number on your back, don’t ride as if it were a race. As least Brian is chill enough to greet the ascending fellow riders 👏 Stay alive y‘all to enjoy riding for long ✌️
Really felt for Taylor then! Hope hes recovered now! 25mph wipeouts are not fun! Great finish by you though Safa,What an Amazing Place i can see why you keep going back as its mesmerising to View! Great Video 🔥🔥🔥🤘😎🤘
The infamous last ride on the last day. Busted my tendon on my last day of a skiing trip years ago 😞 Since then I am always religiously careful on the last day of any action holiday...
As a former professional racer this person is irresponsible to others ie he could cause accidents to motorists and pedestrians and also kill himself. Shame on presenting this as wonderful
The mere fact that as soon as the video starts my own adrenaline is already ramping up… 😬… even overcooking that turn, this was still an amazing descent… I hope he’s ok… 🙌🏽
@@hughjanus7354 What, no? He crashed with 40km/h on the edge of a hairpin corner, it most certainly was'nt a pleasing experience, any normal human being would get the adrenaline up and running and get scared.
@@bxnny6657 da faque are you on about? You realise the guy who crashed didn't get back on the bike after the crash but was collected by their support vehicle, right?
@@hughjanus7354 Yes i know that, i was talking about how you made his crash seem like no big deal that "he just slid a few meters down the tarmac", so it makes sense that he was too scared to continue the ride.
There is no upside to this type of riding. If you are young and light you will survive the crashes on the smooth road surface but you will have scarring inside your joints that accumulate. You will feel that all the time after you get old. There is a price for everything. No such thing as "invincible mode".
5:46 the hindwheel locked three times in about 1 sec, from 5:46 to 5:47, the first two were mere milliseconds (you can see the shadow of the spokes appearing and disappearing on the road) but when it locked the third time, the wheel lost track, did not accelerate again (since the brake was still locked) and off he went. He was putting to much pressure on the back disc for the road condition. It's also possible that some sandy dust had settled on the inside of that bend, making a locked wheel more likely. I believe seeing the approaching car on the opposite lane might have triggered a reflex response and made him brake slightly harder than necessary. As this guy is so lightweight, I wonder if his collar bone is ok.
This is just bonkers. So much of the time you are on the wrong side of the road. One day you won't see / be able to avoid the oncoming car and you'll end up with a spinal injury or dead. If you just think I'm a negative git I've had a spinal injury from being cut up by an oncoming car and not being able to avoid the collision, but I was doing 15mph not 40mph, which is a lot less kinetic energy.
I would never ride crazy, steep, windy descents like this for fear that I’d wipe out too. It’s either go off the mountain to my death or crash and wreck my $6,000 bike that I can’t afford to just replace whenever. Gotta protect myself and my valuable property.
I am so unconfident with descending, even on the short 3km -7% average that are really the only ‘hills’ in my area, I struggle to stay off the brakes much above 60kmh. I’m usually quite comfortable at those speeds, I can sprint close to that on the flat and feel quite in control, it’s just the added adrenaline of not being able to as easily slow down without brakes, and a steep drop beside you. I always have a fear my wheel will slide out from me at the tiniest of wobbles. It’s probably inexperience, and being overly cautious, but I couldn’t even imagine trying to do some of the far more challenging downhills in a real mountainous area.
It depends on the descent tbh, i don't think being cautious is a bad thing. There are a few close to me that are straight 5-6% declines for over 2km, no turns, no bends. Those you can forget the brakes and just cruise down at 70+km/h. The bike will want to go straight at those speeds. Even hop over potholes, or make minor adjustments to avoid sketchy patches on the road with ease, you should be more confident on those as there's way less risk. However, the ones I go down that are the same gradient but with turns, bends, blind spots for oncoming traffic etc, or a narrow road with debris/leaves/slight mud? defo stay on the brakes and DON'T lean too far into corners if you think the road quality is not too great. I'd rather not get severely injured, than chase an extra 10-15km/h
so lookking forward to oneday finally buy one of ur purple/blue/green sweaters or hoodies of ur prayforspeed series. love it and it's so nostalgic for me allready. don't take it off ur shop!:)
You can see how he shifted the saddle to the outside which is also shifting is weight to the inside. Should do it the opposite so you can put your weight over the tires. I see it in my mind as a triangle. I can envision how the tire deforms in a turn and I put my weight in relation to how to the deforms.
I think of the 100's of times I descended Sugarloaf Mt here in central Florida during my 25+ years racing career, which though only 1 km long, is steep enough that I could routinely hit 55mph on, and thankfully never crashed.
Most of you WILL NOT LIKE the following... we MALES have a very difficult time with RISK ANALYSIS with respect to our true CAPABILITIES, and more importantly our IMAGINED CAPABILITIES as derived from our EGOS! I've been a dedicated club cyclist for 40 years and have witnessed too many mostly male cyclists of all ages needlessly injured because of ego-driven on bike behavior. Changing these hard heads is a virtual impossibility!
Ehi bro I love your videos but let me say that some moves are quite over the limit, and if not for you, for other road users. Overtaking cars in the apex of their turn or moves like that, let drivers being always ungry and contemptuous to us, as cyclists. Every day I see someone that yell to me from the car just because I’m on my bike doing moves that are wrong to his perspective etc... We need to be respected because on the road we are the weak users and everything happen, it’s potentially dangerous to us way more that a man inside his car. I love go fast downhill from alpine pass as much as you at least, but is it really neeeded to something like that? Cheers from north Italy 🤙🏼
Very nice and satisfying video! 👍👍👍If I may suggest, maybe it might be also nice to possibly include sprocket gear combinations in the telemetry so we know where you are shifted. Just as a sort of reference guide for newbies to learn good proper shifting techniques on a bike by a professional. 🙂 A lot of people I meet in practice, even others who have been racing for awhile now still do not fully understand the mechanics of proper gear shifting and end up cramming with strain too early. ( Sometimes myself included. Hehe.) Painfully trying to catch up with the rest of the group.
Glad he was ok. Love the praying hands sticker eh? Man that angle really shows how much you have to handle that bike at those speeds with the imperfections in those roads.
And there was I thinking motorcyclists take enough risks but at least they wear protection whereas yours was virtually nil, so this was pretty suicidal. I just don't get it. You'd rather risk your life (and that of others) than just slow down and enjoy the fantastic scenery. There is something really quite perverse about treating a spectacularly beautiful place like a downhill race track in shorts on a machine with razer thin tyres and assuming you are going to get by unscathed. It was BOUND to happen, but whatever, it's the default ambition of many cyclists. For your own sake just give up on the kamikaze rides, calm down and enjoy the view.
When you take the huge risks you do, you get bit eventually. You are lucky to have gotten back up to pedal again rather than being hauled away by an ambulance. Be safe.
Sorry, but you look like you have very little control over that bike and shouldn't even consider supertucking. You're not Cancellara. Relax. The filming is great tho'..
I would gladly descend that road! I'd go considerably slower and probably take along a spare set of brake pads to change out halfway down? Glad you're ok.
Death by TH-cam video. This is what often happens when someone knows they are being filmed for all the world to see. They get a little faster... come into a corner a little hotter... get a little too close to the edge of the cliff or the ocean waves breaking behind them. Then BAM! Reality bites. At that speed in that corner with that kit on... he's gotta have some painful road rash. But could have been worse. No guts, no glory... right? I had a good friend die on the ski slopes in Colorado when we were young... because he was being videoed... and was the last of the group to do the jump... and it wasn't even that big of a jump--he just wanted to look the coolest in the video... so he approached it too fast (for his skill level) and lost control on the landing... and slid out of control down the mountain--head first--and hit a tree. He died right there on the mountain... blood coming out of his ears... in his brother's arms. It was horrific.
for the crash at 5:56, serious question and coming from mtb: wouldn't you want to keep the bike upright and lean yourself when the road is cambered as it is? more contact patch i would think.
The lack of adequate superelevation, sight distance, and posted speed limts make this road quiet dangerous to be traveling at 50+ MPH. I used to ride my bike with my teammates when I was young. Over 50 MPH is plenty fast on a bike. Stay safe and healthy.
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That was terrifying. The road surface, the oncoming traffic, the questionable lines and corner entry speeds… if you misjudge the entry to one of those corners and run just a little wide, it’s lights out.
If you’re not a pro racer, leave yourself a little margin, people. It’s better to live to ride another day than ride on the edge until you go over it…
Road surface looked amazing, but everything else I have to agree!! Taking blind corners at high speed and on the on-coming lane, edgy overtakes. Felt zero caution in this video, they are lucky the worst that they got is a busted bike and a small bruise.
@@klnhtw Switzerland... best roads in the world!
honestly it's amazing how long it took before this safa idiot crashed. every single video of his has been nothing but risky and entitled riding that gives road cyclists a bad name
SAFA might be better than a pro racer a these questionable descents though 😄
@@klnhtwthe road surface had sand or fine grit on it. That was very clear.
Following these videos for quite a while now and over time they got more and more silly and we've gotten to a point where there is hardly any respect to other road users or corners you can't see through anymore. You're just sending it no matter what's coming. I get it, thrill and adrenaline are a hell of a drug and you will need more and more over time to satisfy your brain but when is it enough?
where was there no respect?
@@jonfrderickwhen they overtook a couple of cars at the apex of left turns, while blatantly straddling the oncoming traffic lane lol. And don’t get me started on the blind spots they haphazardly zoomed through.
@@achiltsompanos447 the riders deffintly paid attention when going through blind spots that there would be nothing and whats wrong with overtaking cars on apex's if you know nothing is coming the other way.
@@achiltsompanos447 ,They could both see down the road around those bends, you could see them check before committing on the hair pin overtakes, it's a pretty easy manoeuvre when the cars are are only going 10-15mph (with loads of space to get round; a whole lane).
you might have a point there. I mean some car drivers are so disrespectful and dangerous, but some of us cyclists are also very disrespectful and it's not usually the car the one paying the consequences. Other than that the video is really well filmed. Hope he is recovering well
At 72 years of age and many years of riding, there is a limit on the number of times your body will absorb accidents like this. At 71 I retired to Zwift.
I think ya got more road miles left in ya.
@@ForGlory1 At age 74, I've had too many crashes not going anywhere near this speed. No thanks, I'll play it safe so I can ride another day. Safety before performance.
At 71 I still prefer the road but I do have my indoor spinner for bad weather days.
you can always just go slow right? I mean you can still ride on the road and not pull massive g's while cornering.
I hear you! Years of abuse from MTB, Hockey, Fixed crit etc and my 52 year old body is fully aware of it's age. I just hope to have no miles left on this body when I am done with it.
I had a terrible crash this September when descending a funny small descent near Kraków in Poland. It was caused by oil spilled on the road. It feels like entering the ice. A nightmare. I have broken a few bones. Luckily, nothing too serious, so I had a break from any activities for about 6 weeks. Keep in mind these kinds of unpredictable things can also happen!
Was it that the hill down from Krakow zoo. I was there in the summer but didn't have my bike and it looked fun to ride down.
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Oil on road in Switzerland?!? Only in ex-East Block))
You are damn right, though. Road isn't a wind tunnel.
I was exactly thinking "he's comin in pretty fast in this corn... yup😅" stay safe out there, i never have gotten more scary overtakes than climbing Nufenen, don't let it get to you on the way down. Laser focused and lightning fast
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Yep. Exactly. "Too much brake" after he overcooked the corn..." :)
I was on the Grimsel, just one pass further north on a day, when a female cyclist died. She apparently slipped in a curve at the entrance of a tunnel than I know by heart and a motorbike coming the other direction ran over her. I didn't witness the crash, but I waved at her a bit earlier, when I went up and she came down. I have seen a guy flying over the rail at the other side of the Nufenen, the seconds braking not to run into his bike, praying that he at least moves (he fell approx. 10m down), calling the ambulance were the longest in my life. I have also seen the jersey of Roger Nachbur at the Oberalp two weeks after his crash (which I know, was not his fault), I went this summer through the curve at the south of the Albula, one of my favourite passes, just weeks after Gino Mäder.
Now, I have crashed too, but you are putting your life at risk, and you entice others to do the same thing. And you give cyclists a bad reputation.
They cannot make anyone do anything and they cannot hurt an entire sport’s reputation.
@@JourneyToJacked Sure, they cannot force anyone to do something and most people will just shake their heads and think "I'm not as silly as that". But it may motivate others to do similar stuff. And just look at the many followers and positive comments.
And they do leave a bad reputation. That driver he overtook in the curve may next time he sees me on the same road think "those crazy ..." and behave differently. We all have to behave responsibly to leave a positive impression as a whole.
Pray for Speed my friend 🤗
@@wraith8323 You think, this is funny? I don't. And I love cycling. Had this been an outside curve at the Grimsel oder the Furka or Gotthardo nearby, where it goes down vertically 50 m, he would be dead now. Had the car coming up been there a few seconds leater, he would be dead.
@@MaxMustermann-nd4uy you need to ride your bike faster i think. You sound stressed and scared.
Hate to say it - and I know this will make me sound like an a-hole (but it's really just meant for future safety), but that crash looked fairly inevitable. There was clearly a bit of sand (or similar) on the corners, your inside knee dropped in way too far, your weight was a long way forward. There's a reason we can't push limits on road bikes, and this is it in a nutshell. I had a similar crash in the French Alps and still don't know what caused it (most of the above I would guess) and I learnt from it (in terms of speed and risk). Hope you do too.
4 times my front wheel slipped under me and I pulled it back, he just went into that corner too hot, didn't have the margins to save it after hitting sand
Thanks for the reminder that even the best go down sometimes. Glad that everyone is OK.
The best? People here aren't even good are reckless clowns
Judging from the lines he took and how jittery some of those corners looked we can safely assume this clown is hardly 'one of the best'.
@@JeroenBoterman completely agree, these guys are just fearsome, not skillful.
No comment...an old friend died after 2 weeks coma after having crashed alone on the Ventoux last summer...he was a very good rider, downhill included...on open roads that' s quite foolish because of the threat of incoming cars : on closed roads racers don't have to keep right when ngetting out of the curve !
Sorry about your loss :(
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That’s my local hill.
There are bits of the descent towards Bédoin in a narrow, twisty canyon that are incredibly dangerous. People die on that mountain every summer season.
@@TesterAnimal1 man just called Ventoux a hill
Check out the shape of the turn from the video 30 seconds ahead. You can clearly see the radius tightens very dramatically and that’s something that catches people out a lot. The entrance to the turn shows a gradual arc while the latter half is significantly tighter. These are the most dangerous corners when you’re riding aggressively.
On Angeles Crest Highway in SoCal there’s a double apex left hander with a decreasing radius, they call it “Squid’s Leap” for all the young dumb motorcyclists who have flown over the side 😂
Good observation, he exits first apex and sets up like he's going on a straightaway (even crossing the median), going full-bore on a very tight apex.
The decreasing radius looks like the underlying problem. He loses traction the moment he tries to adjust for the tightening radius, which seems like the safest decision on a right hand turn. He had enough road to drift out more, but that’s a risky call. He might have stayed up if he did that though. He’s a fast agile descender no matter what happened here.
Yeah I saw that corner coming really early too. Gave my balls a wee clench 😅
He was way too fast and aggressive going in. Looked like minimal damage 🤞
Also he moved his body more inside and down in this moment reducing pressure on tire. With the gravity center more outside it would not have happened. Bad corner technique
These guys are gonna be the founders of aero wheel chairs
He was saying how he grabbed to much brake which caused the low-side crash. And while that's possible, I think he honestly just asked too much of his tires in the grip department. He had one hell of a lean angle, and you can see the rear tire start to let go right before the front tire gives up. It happens, hope he heals up quick!
Edit: Actually this is somewhat wrong. He loses the front tire first, and then the whole bike goes down.
That’s exactly what I thought, it was a very aggressive turn in and lean angle. With the benefit of hindsight, it seems pretty obvious from the video but hey, we all make mistakes.
i don't think the lean angle was anything he couldn't do on that bike 9 times outta 10 tbh i feel like he mispedalled causing his tyre to slip
自転車よりも体が内側に倒れてしまっているからグリップが抜けてしまった。正直かなり無茶なハンドリングだったと思う。
Feeling like he took pressure off the left foot too early on that turn. Wouldn't have been a prob if there's just a teeny bit more speed. He scrubbed hard entering that hairpin. Unsure if he was still holding on to the rear brake slightly, even. Unfortunate, and hope he didn't get hurt too much.
That's why hydro discs on road tires is stupid and for posers. Contact patch is to small.
I have mixed feelings about this. The footage is a joy to watch, but on the other hand, let's be honest: it is on-the-edge riding on public roads and this eventually leads to crashes once in a dozen of such epic descents. Doing a "best-of" descending tour perhaps has a higher risk of crashing than an actual world tour pro because they don't go to 9 or 10/10s in the bunch, they don't have to worry about oncoming traffic in line choice at any point and it is pretty rare that somebody actually goes full Pidcock mode on a Gran Tour stage, certainly not the full peloton.
The car passes look easy but coming in at 60 kph 50 meters before a tight corner and overtaking right into it is something that would be considered pretty reckless driving in a car, even though I've been there: drivers are so ridiculously slow at times that it doesn't even require much skill and bravery to overtake when they are just driving 15 kph or even less but imo you shouldn't just go around like a maniac. They'll probably be as slow on the following straight that all you have to do is fly by with less risk of miscommunication (or lack of communication).
All you are saying is true, but don’t imagine that these guys give a single fuck about it: they are adrenaline junkies who are happy to impose their high risk taking on other road users
I admit that I don't understand the risk-reward calculations here. You could have basically the same experience by reducing the speed by 15km/h on average and the risk would drop to 5%... Hope you get well.
Not even the top speed. Just don't cut corners totally blind, leave room for error when being next to other vehicles and overtaking (yes, the car in front of you does have brakes) and leave room for error in the curves. This way of cycling is suicidal and it gains you next to nothing, but chances are that your next ride is on a handbike.
Admittedly, drivers in france are nicer than in switzerland and actually let you pass when they see you in their rear mirror, and it is a nuisance if you spend an hour to two hours going up, and they block you (i.e. responsible cyclicsts who leave a distance and don't overtake on the outside of the curve) on your 15-30 minutes joy ride down, just out of principle (takes 5 seconds, rear indicator, take the foot off the accelerator, and enjoy watching the cyclist from behind).
You mean, reducing the speed by 5km/h reduces the risk 15%.
@@l.d.t.6327 No I don't. 15km/h less on average is a lot slower. Accident-risk does not increase linearly with speed. The chances of something happening with 15km/h less speed is a lot lower and the expected injuries from lower-speed crashes a lot less severe. All in all, I would guess that the to be expected injuries drop to 5% with 15km/h less speed. Of course we would need hard data for this. So run the experiment 10000 times and count all the crashes/incidents/injuries in both cases...
The red hatchback driver must have though "bloody donors", when you passed him at 3:20. Then at 5:53 I'm sure he thought "I knew it". Hope the fella was OK and is back to riding already.
Yes and cyclist needs to respect other road users. Overtaking a car on a bend on the wrong side of the road is wrong plain and simple. It's a public road, not a private racetrack.
@@germurphy4986 ehh, BS. that is the best spot to pass if you can see from above there is nothing coming up.
@@craigsmith5134this has got to be the most ignorant comment I have seen
@@MJarthur95 idk, at that spot the car is not going to suddenly start speeding up to prevent a pass as you can see later in the video on the straight, which is unsafe. I'm not saying that what this guy does is safe by any means, he crazy dumb. But that specific spot wasn't too bad to make a pass if you're on a bike.
tbh the overtake of the green SUV at 3:51 looked far more risky to me. Going around the outside of a car on a hairpin is asking for trouble. They passed the red car safely I think
He totally miss judged that turn! Turned in to early. Too much excitement got the best of him. Hope he's not hurt to bad? Stay safe guys!
Seems his entry speed exceeded the adhesion abilities of his tires. In too hot and bam.
I think that's probably the best remote diagnosis. Turning in early, backing off and turning again just puts you at a narrower line and you have to make a tighter turn. Not sure what the jink was for (some additional braking?) but it put him in a (too) tight turn, plus he had to lean in later than he wanted to. Mix that with a bit too much speed and an imperfect line, woosh ...
Might have something to do with the oncoming rider (in the corner, did not go all the way out) and car (after the corner) to give them a bit more space. But yeah, a speed that was too high (this was a tight turn!) for this imperfect line lead to the fall. :( Speedy recovery!
@@alamogiftshopYeah. I was thinking the same. He was turning in way too early on most of those hairpins. That's why he had to over-correct as that final hairpin tightened up.
Panic brake disc brake blam!
That’s not how you cycle correctly in Switzerland.
Way to pass those cars on blind corners without a care ofof other’s safety. 👏
Overconfidence is killing
The epitome of "Men will do everything before going to therapy". Love it. Stay safe.
Some horrible sounds coming from that bike or is it his two brain cells banging together.
Thanks for sharing this. I crashed 2 years ago in almost the exact same mechanism of crash. Broken collar bone, shoulder blade and punctured lung. I hope your friend got off a lot easier. I thought the same thing at the time that I slid out or grabbed a bit too much brake. However it's caused by being leaned over to near maximum and then giving a tiny amount of additional steering input. The front fork hits the point where it has negative effective trail and tries to pivot around to the inside of the turn. You can see in slow mo the front wheel binds and further turns right rapidly. At that point wheel stops spinning and starts skidding and then you splat hard to the inside of the turn. It made me realize how close I come to this pivot point all the time on a fast decent in sharp corners. Be careful out there as once you hit this pivot point it is impossible to recover and happens nearly instantly. Super fun to see such a beautiful decent taken with such grace.
5:43 - We ALL know that feeling of seeing an oncoming cyclist, and the (subconscious) need to impress them.
No we don’t. Some people are smarter than what you speak ofthan.
@@the_feature_selector859 I said ALL and meant it!
@@PatrickLino do you cycle dangerously like these guys too?
@@the_feature_selector859 every single day
@@the_feature_selector859 EVERYDAY
This gave me way too much anxiety. Way too many blind corners just full send in to....maybe I am just getting old 😅
5:47 it happens man keep going thats the soul
Thank u
3:50 thats why everbody hates us.
He passed legally. Quit your crying.
@@roadcyclist1😂😂😂
fuck cars
@@roadcyclist1 Legally doesn't mean safely.
Moments like at 13:31 I can not understand. You are taking a blind right corner at 60 km/h speed. If you would lose control and slide who knows what happens to you and in this case a fucking truck was right there you would be flattened by the wheels before the trucker could even react! Taylor was lucky it happened at a place with "ran-off" area and no on-coming traffic.
I know the thrill, I understand the urge to set records, but I just don't understand how can someone be this reckless.
5:45 It's crazy to turn a corner at about 40KM!
this guys make 40 look safe their limits on corner range between 40 and 50 due to their experience
Experience doesn’t trump physics! As Safa says he went in too hot here. On the corners before he’s still going fast but entering around 40k and hitting the apex around 32-35. On this one he steams in at over 50 and hits the apex at 40 and loses grip. Inevitable when cornering at those speeds. As someone else has said this looked sketchy right from the start for some reason. Very twitchy and not as smooth as usual. Stay safe everyone 🙏 especially you daredevils!
40 MPH ❤
also on completely slick tires 28mm wide,when they cornering there is probably only 10mm touching surface.in this video they basically riding on the limit that this tire can offer
That was a pretty stressful watch. I ride in the Alps a lot.
I don’t get scared on the descents, but afterwards thinking about it!
I sit here watching this with my broken wrist after crashing down a decent a week ago! I feel your pain Taylor, chin up brother!
My wrist is not broken, I think, but I feel pain for several months from time to time.
@bashconsole could be broken mate, get an xray.
45 mph, still waves to others. A true gentleman
I hope he's ok. It was good there weren't any cars when he crashed.
I have to get back another Bike Trainer. I got rid of my previous one when I moved into another apartment and I thought I would never get back into my Roadie ever again. I recently got back into it again and have been consistently riding on the weekends for the past 5 months then lost 33 lbs. Now that I've discovered this channel I need another bike trainer and turn this channel on so I can feel like I'm part of the ride outdoors in case of unprecedented events I can't go. I leave this channel on while I'm doing chores inside the house because it's very therapeutic to me. I love the sounds of the tires making contact on the ground, the sound of the wind, and the noise it makes when changing gears!
He did the same thing at 4:00 where he tried to show off to the motorcyclists. You could see him stand the bike up because he had too much speed to brake a bit more.
Is it really worth scraping yourself off the road for?
He clipped his right pedal right around the moment of the crash but can’t tell whether that was the cause
That's too dangerous, protect yourself!!!
I’m so frustrated falling like that by now that I strongly prefer 40+ mm slicks over any 28 mm-ish road tyres for descending. They let you be much more confident in corners with wet or bad asphalt, off-camber, winding-up curvature, etc. Luckily, there are now fast compound rubbers with progressive widths
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Yo también prefiero bajar con una gravel con neumático 38, son mucho más seguras y estables.
Do you think that the Schadenfreude might have been experienced by the people in all the cars that you overtook in the corners as they drove by?
Did you learn that word from that instagram guy or do you already have a large lexicon
@CoCody_ what is instagram?
If you ain‘t got a number on your back, don’t ride as if it were a race. As least Brian is chill enough to greet the ascending fellow riders 👏 Stay alive y‘all to enjoy riding for long ✌️
Really felt for Taylor then! Hope hes recovered now! 25mph wipeouts are not fun! Great finish by you though Safa,What an Amazing Place i can see why you keep going back as its mesmerising to View! Great Video 🔥🔥🔥🤘😎🤘
Be careful mate. My friend died just like this. He was hit by a car when he slid into oncoming traffic.
Disc brakes make people overly confident. In reality they are only marginally better than rim brakes in dry conditions.
At some stage, even the most skilled amongst us run out of talent! Heal up bro, and great video SAFA Brian.
The infamous last ride on the last day. Busted my tendon on my last day of a skiing trip years ago 😞 Since then I am always religiously careful on the last day of any action holiday...
Guy leading was wreckless,missed getting killed by the blue vehicle by seconds where he dumped!😢
is breaking the speed limit on a bicycle not illegal????????
Same rules apply for all street users. And in Switzerland it can get you into serious trouble with just a few miles over.
There are no speed limits for road bikes in Switzerland. You are not allowed to ride recklessly in urban areas, though.
As a former professional racer this person is irresponsible to others ie he could cause accidents to motorists and pedestrians and also kill himself. Shame on presenting this as wonderful
As Jackie Stewart would say " Spectacular Crash " !
You are a real man if you go the opposite direction!
Wow, wow, wow!!!!.....A very resilient and courageous rider.
Stay safe guys and take care of yourself, even most winding and stepest road Isn't worth anyones life.
Safa and Terry B always do some insane shit.... but always exhilarating
My thoughts exactly terry and safa get you feeling it
Love some of your content but that was not one of them, terrible overtaking and the inevitable crash which could be seen coming quite early on.
In second part you were driving alone that poin of view from cycle was thrilling I would like to watch more videos with that view
I was thinking the same thing
What a ride and what a view! Dang it’s beautiful out there
descending and ascending are worlds apart🏄🏄🏄🏄🏄
The mere fact that as soon as the video starts my own adrenaline is already ramping up… 😬… even overcooking that turn, this was still an amazing descent… I hope he’s ok… 🙌🏽
That looked like a video game til the crash! Breathtaking. Hope you arent hurting too bad.
Dang....I can't imagine getting back on the bike right after that crash. Men of steel.
The deal is that or you go ride a bike straight away... or you might never come back.
@@mszymkowski way too much exaggeration. He didn't crash down the side of a hill, he slid a few meters down the tarmac.
@@hughjanus7354 What, no? He crashed with 40km/h on the edge of a hairpin corner, it most certainly was'nt a pleasing experience, any normal human being would get the adrenaline up and running and get scared.
@@bxnny6657 da faque are you on about? You realise the guy who crashed didn't get back on the bike after the crash but was collected by their support vehicle, right?
@@hughjanus7354 Yes i know that, i was talking about how you made his crash seem like no big deal that "he just slid a few meters down the tarmac", so it makes sense that he was too scared to continue the ride.
even those with superb skills have a moment of imperfection at times. Glad you’re ok🤟
of all SAFA's rides this one had me I was a bit scared, This one felt like I wore VR glasses for sure🤣Nice
Raw or medium-rare, I'm here for the rides! 🤤
Had my first fall last week, almost the exact same way.
do you guys have the perception of how beauty is this place ?
Show offs always hit the deck, serves them right!
This is why I still use pivot brakes.
is this video uploaded twice? watched it this year.
There is no upside to this type of riding. If you are young and light you will survive the crashes on the smooth road surface but you will have scarring inside your joints that accumulate. You will feel that all the time after you get old. There is a price for everything. No such thing as "invincible mode".
5:46 the hindwheel locked three times in about 1 sec, from 5:46 to 5:47, the first two were mere milliseconds (you can see the shadow of the spokes appearing and disappearing on the road) but when it locked the third time, the wheel lost track, did not accelerate again (since the brake was still locked) and off he went. He was putting to much pressure on the back disc for the road condition. It's also possible that some sandy dust had settled on the inside of that bend, making a locked wheel more likely. I believe seeing the approaching car on the opposite lane might have triggered a reflex response and made him brake slightly harder than necessary. As this guy is so lightweight, I wonder if his collar bone is ok.
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No strange noise when you pedalling hard like it was before 🤔what was the reason?
This is just bonkers. So much of the time you are on the wrong side of the road. One day you won't see / be able to avoid the oncoming car and you'll end up with a spinal injury or dead. If you just think I'm a negative git I've had a spinal injury from being cut up by an oncoming car and not being able to avoid the collision, but I was doing 15mph not 40mph, which is a lot less kinetic energy.
There are bold bikers and old bikers but never both.
When you search the limits.....you find them.
My idol in cornering💯🔥
5:47 mistake is you push paddle hardly on turning road
[Note : Don't push paddle on turning ]
Bee Safe and use leg gard and elbow Gard bro 🎉
What happened to Taylor, and how did he get down to the Valley?
We have a car coming down behind us.
I would never ride crazy, steep, windy descents like this for fear that I’d wipe out too. It’s either go off the mountain to my death or crash and wreck my $6,000 bike that I can’t afford to just replace whenever. Gotta protect myself and my valuable property.
I am so unconfident with descending, even on the short 3km -7% average that are really the only ‘hills’ in my area, I struggle to stay off the brakes much above 60kmh. I’m usually quite comfortable at those speeds, I can sprint close to that on the flat and feel quite in control, it’s just the added adrenaline of not being able to as easily slow down without brakes, and a steep drop beside you. I always have a fear my wheel will slide out from me at the tiniest of wobbles.
It’s probably inexperience, and being overly cautious, but I couldn’t even imagine trying to do some of the far more challenging downhills in a real mountainous area.
It depends on the descent tbh, i don't think being cautious is a bad thing. There are a few close to me that are straight 5-6% declines for over 2km, no turns, no bends. Those you can forget the brakes and just cruise down at 70+km/h. The bike will want to go straight at those speeds. Even hop over potholes, or make minor adjustments to avoid sketchy patches on the road with ease, you should be more confident on those as there's way less risk. However, the ones I go down that are the same gradient but with turns, bends, blind spots for oncoming traffic etc, or a narrow road with debris/leaves/slight mud? defo stay on the brakes and DON'T lean too far into corners if you think the road quality is not too great. I'd rather not get severely injured, than chase an extra 10-15km/h
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incorrect weight placement along with a bad apex. Started the turn too early
You can see how he shifted the saddle to the outside which is also shifting is weight to the inside. Should do it the opposite so you can put your weight over the tires. I see it in my mind as a triangle. I can envision how the tire deforms in a turn and I put my weight in relation to how to the deforms.
Definitely to early, which put hin in a bad angle, then did not go wide though there was enough place
I think of the 100's of times I descended Sugarloaf Mt here in central Florida during my 25+ years racing career, which though only 1 km long, is steep enough that I could routinely hit 55mph on, and thankfully never crashed.
Hope Taylor and his bike are okay, hats off to you for continuing the ride after the crash as well. That can throw the vibes off
Most of you WILL NOT LIKE the following... we MALES have a very difficult time with RISK ANALYSIS with respect to our true CAPABILITIES, and more importantly our IMAGINED CAPABILITIES as derived from our EGOS! I've been a dedicated club cyclist for 40 years and have witnessed too many mostly male cyclists of all ages needlessly injured because of ego-driven on bike behavior. Changing these hard heads is a virtual impossibility!
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😂 super tuck freds... gotta love it
Ehi bro I love your videos but let me say that some moves are quite over the limit, and if not for you, for other road users. Overtaking cars in the apex of their turn or moves like that, let drivers being always ungry and contemptuous to us, as cyclists. Every day I see someone that yell to me from the car just because I’m on my bike doing moves that are wrong to his perspective etc...
We need to be respected because on the road we are the weak users and everything happen, it’s potentially dangerous to us way more that a man inside his car.
I love go fast downhill from alpine pass as much as you at least, but is it really neeeded to something like that?
Cheers from north Italy 🤙🏼
5:47 "It's at this moment he knew, he f&*%ed up."
Very nice and satisfying video! 👍👍👍If I may suggest, maybe it might be also nice to possibly include sprocket gear combinations in the telemetry so we know where you are shifted. Just as a sort of reference guide for newbies to learn good proper shifting techniques on a bike by a professional. 🙂
A lot of people I meet in practice, even others who have been racing for awhile now still do not fully understand the mechanics of proper gear shifting and end up cramming with strain too early. ( Sometimes myself included. Hehe.) Painfully trying to catch up with the rest of the group.
Glad he was ok. Love the praying hands sticker eh? Man that angle really shows how much you have to handle that bike at those speeds with the imperfections in those roads.
that looked painful. the crash wound on my elbow just started burning watchin that! lol
And there was I thinking motorcyclists take enough risks but at least they wear protection whereas yours was virtually nil, so this was pretty suicidal. I just don't get it. You'd rather risk your life (and that of others) than just slow down and enjoy the fantastic scenery. There is something really quite perverse about treating a spectacularly beautiful place like a downhill race track in shorts on a machine with razer thin tyres and assuming you are going to get by unscathed. It was BOUND to happen, but whatever, it's the default ambition of many cyclists. For your own sake just give up on the kamikaze rides, calm down and enjoy the view.
you are taking so much risk for youtube on open roads, you are crazy!
When you take the huge risks you do, you get bit eventually. You are lucky to have gotten back up to pedal again rather than being hauled away by an ambulance. Be safe.
Sorry, but you look like you have very little control over that bike and shouldn't even consider supertucking. You're not Cancellara. Relax.
The filming is great tho'..
80-90% of braking should be done prior to entering the corner when the speeds are that high. This type of riding is irresponsible and reckless.
I would gladly descend that road! I'd go considerably slower and probably take along a spare set of brake pads to change out halfway down? Glad you're ok.
Death by TH-cam video. This is what often happens when someone knows they are being filmed for all the world to see. They get a little faster... come into a corner a little hotter... get a little too close to the edge of the cliff or the ocean waves breaking behind them. Then BAM! Reality bites. At that speed in that corner with that kit on... he's gotta have some painful road rash. But could have been worse. No guts, no glory... right? I had a good friend die on the ski slopes in Colorado when we were young... because he was being videoed... and was the last of the group to do the jump... and it wasn't even that big of a jump--he just wanted to look the coolest in the video... so he approached it too fast (for his skill level) and lost control on the landing... and slid out of control down the mountain--head first--and hit a tree. He died right there on the mountain... blood coming out of his ears... in his brother's arms. It was horrific.
for the crash at 5:56, serious question and coming from mtb: wouldn't you want to keep the bike upright and lean yourself when the road is cambered as it is? more contact patch i would think.
The lack of adequate superelevation, sight distance, and posted speed limts make this road quiet dangerous to be traveling at 50+ MPH. I used to ride my bike with my teammates when I was young. Over 50 MPH is plenty fast on a bike. Stay safe and healthy.