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"Even Volvo", WTF? Volvo have made some of if not the best 5 cylinder engines, period (even Ford used the Volvo 5 cylinder engines). They are SUPER smooth (almost as smooth as 6), sound great at idle and under acceleration. They made them from the early 90's right up until recently (almost every engine they made in the era was a 5, 4's and 6's much less common)..... Only ended due to Volvo being a small company and needing to rationalise cost. Quite sad really to see such a beautiful engine die for cost savings.
@@audex Your a clown. Volvo transmissions don't fail any differently than others. Neglect due to not doing fluid changes. Do your research, Volvo make manual transmissions in-house, but the auto transmissions are either GM or Aisin Warner (same as used in a huge variety of vehicles). If anything, the Aisin Warner transmissions fail earlier in Volvo's than other makes like Toyota because the Toyota's have no Torque, whereas Volvo has embraced Turbo Charging decades ahead of most others. Maintain your transmission and change the fluid every 30-40 K miles and mostly it's going to be just fine (except the GM transmission in earlier T6 models, which is apparently good once rebuilt with the GM HD kit). It's not a hard concept.
Exactly the 5 bangers from Volvo are the best by far. In fact they are derived from the Audi 5 bangers but run much better and are in all aspects better
hows reliability on those things? i wanted one soooo bad, they look like gorgeous vehicles, but settled for a mitsubishi in fear of maintenance costs, i mean it is a european luxury car after all.
I have the 170 hp one and it runs fantastic after 220 000 miles, just care for it right and it will take care of you, it is built for longevety. And you will never get tired of that amazing sound.
@@imnoahc I've owned an S70 2.4 10 valve with 140hp or so. It sounds real good and from what i know they are quite bulletproof motors, like most old volvo engines are. And dont mistake "european luxury cars" like mercedes or audi with volvo. Volvos have a very good reputation for reliability and lowish maintenance costs compared to germans. And they are (atleast older ones) less luxurious, but more reliable and less prone to rust. The downside on older volvos is the sluggishness and high fuel consumption. But in my opinion on you going for a mitsubishi was a safe bet. You cannot beat the japanese in build quality, reliability, fuel economy and low costs.
@@MrTdr01 I've heard that said, though never experienced a 10v in person. My own 20v (3B distributor) sounds more rorty than my mates' coilpack AAN, I know that much.
@@anthonytan2074 I had an Audi (1990) coupe with a 2.3 inline 5. That car was hands down the most reliable car I ever owned. The only reason it was sold was because someone from Colorado offered me a bunch of money for it. I miss it. It had 230,000 miles when sold.
I still have my Mercedes 300SD Turbo Diesel 1985 5 cylinder!!! Engine designation is the OM617. Bought her second hand ten years ago (2010) and I used her as my daily driver until now 2019!!! And boy.. She drives like a dream!!! I give her 50km a day for 5 days a week. She just doesn't quit!!! She truly enjoys the miles and miles on end!!!! No smoke at all!!! WHAT A CAR!!!
I had a 80s Mercedes 300SD with so many miles I can't even remember. I had to sell it because the body was falling apart. A guy that lived 3 hours away bought it over the phone. Reason? He wanted the engine!
Gotta keep the throttle linkage adjusted, the joints get loose and the turbo doesn't kick in at the right time and it'll drive like a dog. I drove one until the tranny or torque converter went out, not sure 'cause I didn't bother to fix it. I really liked it though. Had to change the fuel filter a lot, and then I was told to just fill the filter with ATF and screw it back on.
@@maduross I love my 300D. Some funky things with it, such as when its cold. It takes a solid 10 seconds for the rpms to barely reach 3000, and when it does it just jerks forward and accelerates pretty damn nicely actually. When the engine is warm, i dont really get issues like that. That probably has to do with the turbo spooling at around 3000 rpms.
I have a 2007 S40 2.4i inline 5. Love the car the engine has a decent rumble to it even stock, great torque, I had it up to 180km on the hwy, driven lots of hwy, main streets and side streets and I don't get any vibration or non smooth drive at certain speeds. For the year of my car Volvo had refined their inline 5 to a really good point and used it in quite a few models. Too bad the last year they used them was 2014. The newer Volvo stuff is way too complicated and pricey venturing into unproven tech I'm not sure how well they will age but the early 2000's - 2010's are a good market, you can drive a luxury car that's actually durable and sensible unlike the German brands.
My Volvo has 5 cylinders engine. It's so smooth and quite. Such a reliable engine bt5244t3, if you maintaine them. So many of them easy make up to 500k. Great short vid. Tnx, Scotty.
It's true, in the Volvo they are almost as smooth as the six cylinder engines. Impressive stuff they did. In the Audis they are more raw, savage and cool
@@Quip1337x hey, i own an s70, the 165 hp version. recently got to 28 0 K kilometers and never have I had mechanical issues on that thing. Except the engine temp meeter
@@airconditioningsounds9316 going on a year with no engine trouble. A lot had to be fixed that was not engine related. I went with a 98' C70. It's a coupe hard top 205k miles, 240 hp with the high pressure turbo $1000. I have put about 2 grand or so into fixing some things on it. In retrospect, If I knew the C70 was so rare I would have gone with the S70 because parts are way way more expencive on the C70 hard top.
Still got 2 Mercedes 300D turbos. Both engines have over 300,000 miles and still keeps up in highway speeds. I believe the OM617 engine is one of the greatest diesel engines ever built and they won't be going away soon. Plus EVERYTHING on that engine is mechanical, not any electronics you have to deal with.
My dad has om616 with over 900k miles and his current car uses om602 5cyl turbo and it has 770 thousand miles and never replaced the timing chain and never opened engine
I had a customer once, with a late 90's Audi 100 2.5 TDI inline 5. It was closing in on 1.000.000 km, which is very rare in my country, but the engine was still running great. The car actually looked brand new. The customer really took care of his car.
Volvo used 5 cylinder engines from 1991 to 2016, and I have owed 2, the T5 petrol and D5 , the first was a performance engine, the latter was a 185 hp diesel. I liked them and as you noted, they have a particular sound - sort of off-beat noise. The petrol was very smooth and the diesel less so. Reliable and bullet proof.
I am still driving my 97 850 R and my wife drives a 98 V70 Cross Country and we will not willingly get rid of them! The old professor PS: I have been a mechanic for 59 years.
Those Hummer H3's make a little more torque at least since the crank is longer than a 4 cylinder. They idle so rough that the slightest charging system problem or vacuum leak will stall it lol. I put one in reverse with a very bad battery and it stalled. Didn't do that again after replacing the battery.
Audi didn't say that, read the original comment again. It was more power than a 4 better economy than a 6. The Europeans mastered the 5 cylinder so much so that the Japanese and others thought it was a good idea and failed miserably(honda, GM).
my dad's 5-cylinder 2004 chevy colorado was pretty good. ran great up to 140k miles and sounded pretty cool actually. he had to get rid of it this year because the frame was totally rusted out. used to park on the grass a lot, limited driveway space.... learned our lesson the hard way!
Volvo made the best 5 cylinder by far, and the D5 diesel from Volvo is still made for sailboats. Volvo 5 cylinder torque is plenty. Volvo motors are often really tall and have a long stroke compared to others. This allowed them to fit them in an engine bay easier and giving them best in class torque.
Thomas Greenall VW only manufactured the D24 for old rwd Volvos. D5 is developed by Volvo and Volvo Penta for some reason calls it the D3. Same thing though just teal and brass fittings and stuff for the marine market.
I had a 240 D. People would blow their horn at me because they thought I was driving slow on purpose . Also, I never pulled out in traffic from a side street until it was completely clear in both directions. Still, it was a beautiful car!
I want a 240d with a manual transmission. I have a '94 s350d diesel and love it. Almost has 400k. I watch Kent Bergsma with Mercedes source. He's the Scotty Kilmer of old Mercedes diesels.
Keep your eye out for a manual 5 speed. If you like you can put that OM617 in the 240 and you would have a nice car with that manual. The W123 chassis are some of the best car Benz made. Is your '94 350D the 6 cly. OM603? did you have issuse with the rods bending? I watch Kent also. I tell you I have learn a lot about the Mercedes from watching his videos.
VW's 2.5 I5 engine is a tank, just saying. They don't do exceptionally well in efficiency or power and that's why they last forever. It's a low stress engine that's exceptionally balanced (as far as 5 cyls go). They're... too reliable, that's why they aren't made anymore.
I'd say the VW 2.5 5 cylinder was the highest volume 5 cylinder engine ever sold. Sold mostly in jettas from 2005-2015 and other various vw products throughout that time.
And an excellent reliable motor, arguably the best vw motor ever imo. They’re powerful enough and they never die. To bad the manuals were geared so low. Gas mileage hangs around 29 but with a taller 5th or 6th I think they could have got to mid 30s
Man, I loved my Volvo V70 (1st gen), it had such a cool 5 cylinder. Naturally aspirated gasoline, 2.4l 170hp (although mine probably had half that by the end of its life LOL), GREAT and beefy sound, I really miss it. Volvo used 5 cylinders in their cars for quite a while, popularized by the 850 in 1991, and used in the V70 up to 2009 if you don't count the diesel versions.
Audi made the best 5inline gasoline engine AAR/NG. They easily run over 600 000 km, easy repair and service. If motoroil change 10000 km period and use fully synthetic motoroil.
600.000 is extremely difficult to find. Usually they have to be rebuilded at 400 to 500k kms. The most durable 5cyl are from Mercedes (diesel) which can be seen with 1,5 million kms and way over on factory engine. Audi is good, but Mb is better :)
@@FabioGs007 One is a snail, the other a hare! The diesel in the Mercedes was designed for longevity. The modern Audi 5-cylinder is a highly-strung petrol rocket.
Agree, i currently HAVE a 300D 1985... It has enough juice, not slow at all. Turbo and more fuel made big difference... Normally aspirated 240 and 300 are slow for sure...
They truly are the best engines out there! I'm putting one in a Ford ranger. Can't wait to see it run! My daily driver is a 300sd with 200,000 miles and runs like a top. Gose to and from Arizona to California every 2 weeks even pulling a 700 lbs trailer
"The 5-cylinder engine didn't really work." Really? Poor Scotty. Either he is losing it or he hasn't done his homework. Check out AUDI's race history. I love my VW I-5 with no turbo and still puts out 170 hp with 171 ft-lbs of torque. At over 154K miles, it burns no oil, has no leaks and has been super reliable. AND it sounds great above 4000 rpms.
5 cyclinder engines are my favourite. they are like mini v10's. they are smooth, powerful, and sound incredible. here are some of the best 5 cylinders that you can still buy used: the audi rs3 and ttrs have 2.5l turbo 5 cylinders which produce almost 400bhp (still on sale) many volvos such as the v70r, c70, c30 polestar (Which is also in the old focus rs) the vw mk4 came in a v5 option which was also found in some vw jettas though they dont sound as good as straight 5's fiat bravo, fiat marea and finally, my favourite: The *F I A T C O U P E 20v T U R B O* which i will hopefully buy as they are appreciating, rare classics which produces stunning power, noises and have amazing looks both in and out.
I have Fiat 20vt engine in Lancia - it truly is amazing, but certainly needs quite a bit of love and a good, clean oil. Otherwise it will turn the crankshaft bearings, been there, done that. Compared to it, my old Honda straight 4 (D16Z2) didn't give me headaches, but no big grin either.
I've got a Volvo S80 D3 with a 5cylinder diesel and it's amazing! Done 260,000miles and the sound is exquisite (half truck/car) very satisfying plus smooth at 700rpm.
I had a 1982 5 cylinder VW Passat. It was a work of genius, and indestructible. Well, until i broke it, but it took me a long time and lots of abuse. Still miss that car.
David Stevenson I have a 2009 Jetta S with 124K Miles, no problems at all. My wife has 2013 Jetta SE with 50k miles. Both run well, no problems, they run smoothly and have enough power on the open highway. They both drive tight.
I just got one too with 120kkm on the clock. the engine is super smooth and silent like a mercedes. and just the right amount of power. Just the fuel consumption ain't great, but I guess you just can't have it all.
Hey David...go easy on the Mk V buddy, they're classic. I had a 2008 Jetta "S" with the 2.5 and the sounds that engine made can only be described as sweeeeet. Loved that car. I'm now in another Mk V....a 2010 Jetta Wolfsburg Edition with the 2.0 turbo engine and am loving that as well. Happy motoring buddy.
You think the Mercedes 240D couldn't get out of its own way? Ha! My father had a 1968 Mercedes 220D 4-speed manual, bought new for about $6000, as I recall. You could go from 0 to 60 MPH in a day! Yes, it was slow to accelerate, but once you hit cruising speed, like 80 MPH on rural interstate, it could hold that speed all day. (That was before the 1973 oil crisis, and the 55 limit that came with it.) It wore like iron, and was finally traded in 1980. 4-wheel disk brakes, responsive steering, and smooth riding. Diesel cars were so unusual then, we once we had a panicked gas station owner come running out when he saw his kid pumping diesel (as requested). He had visions of having to drain and replace our fuel tank on his dime.
I had a buddy that worked at champion racing and at the time they were using 5 cylinder Volvos, all wheel drive.(70% in the front and 30% in the rear) They'd take a regular Volvo and strip it down and race it in the GT class or American road racing class. They never won, but they did place in second a couple of times.(in their class)
Well, they're kind of half a V10, so they sound like half a V10. You can't make the same analogy with straight 4 and V8 though, because the firing order is completely different.
Fred P V4 sounds like baby V8, but nobody really makes any cars with those anymore, the last ones i can think of were the Ford's Taunus discontinued in 1981 and ZAZ's MeMZ-968 discontinued in 1994.
Yeah me too! The vibration is really only noticeable < 900 rpm and between 1400-1800 rpm. I think that’s why they idle relatively high and were geared to go over 1800 rpm at 50+ mph.
..... harmonic displacement hard to pick up on in 5 cylinders because of the smaller bore size than 4 cylinders. Dead cylinder on those 2.4 liters actually ran smoother....
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I have to say I love the Volvo 5 cylinder... it was a sad day when the UK Focus ST lost it's Volvo motor. Can't say I've noticed much in the way of vibration at all in the 850 T5 I had. Seems bizarre that Scotty was like 'Even Volvo made a 5 cylinder!" 😂 in Europe and a lot of other places when you think 5 cylinders you automatically think of Audi or Volvo. Fiat did a nice sounding 5 cylinder too.
I had a Audio 4000 Quattro 5+5, I absolutely loved that engine. It had a distinct sound and even though it wasn't loaded with power, it felt like it had guts.
I'm waiting for my w210 merc wagon, which is coming on monday, has the om612 5 cyl diesel, I'm in love with it's revs. I mean, basicly in love with the entire engine, and entire car.
The VW 2.5 is an incredible engine. I own 2 of them. Bullet proof, and run forever. I've had ZERO issues with my 2006 Rabbit with the 2.5 5 cylinder. 165,000 miles so far with no issues.
There were other exceptions to the rule. The Lancia/Fiat derived 2ltr 20v turbo engine was phenomenal.. Would be reliable to 260bhp with stock internals, capable of well over 200k miles with regular oil changes.. Stroked to 2.4ltr it was capable of over 500bhp.. Awsome sound, performance and reliability...
Hi Scotty, thanks for your great info on car repair. As a daily driver of several cars with an Audi 5 cylinder engine since 1990, I like to add that indeed with modern turbo charged 4 cylinders, there is possibly little going for a 5 cylinder. As a car enthusiast, there is a different side to it. The ignition sequence 12453 makes it unique, and between 3500-4500 they sound better then a V8. The 80's Audi engines, with their simple Bosch K-Jetronic, keep running forever, with economic gas usage of around 28 miles per gallon. My 87 Audi 5000S is cheap to drive, and great fun as well with its 137HP. In Europe Audi sold 5 cylinder cars with carburetors, they used the Zentith 3B3 and the Keihin 28-32 models, the design of the intake manifold is essential to get it working. The power range of these 2.2 liter 5 cylinder engines ranged from 115-220 HP for street cars, and up to 750 HP for world championship rally cars.
My '16 Mustang has electric assist steering. *MUCH* better than an engine-belt-driven pump with fluid in it. Easier to steer, able to change steering modes on a whim & mostly...more responsive!
Pretty garbage. Cool idea, but they're way more prone to fucking up and more expensive to service than the classic hydraulic systems. In my opinion. I feel like you can't feel the road as well either. Feels odd to me.
I drive regularly a car with hydraulic steering (my '04 WRX) and sometimes car with electric steering (my dad's '13 Elantra). Electric is very easy on you, good for commuting, but it feels weird without road feedback like in hydraulic system which I enjoy for "fun" driving
I had a 5 cylinder 2.5 litre turbo diesel engine in my 2003 VW Caravelle (Euro Van). I sold it with 350,000 miles on the engine and still going strong. I still see it driving about now locally. And your right about the strange sound of the 5 cylinder engine. I liked it though 😊
Yes, I did have a 2.2 turbo 20 valve Audi Coupe S2 quattro 1991 (3B engine), the pinnacle of 5 cyl development, and yes it was beyond belief smooth and had a ton of power, and never ever let me down.
The Audi RS3 probably won’t be for a few more years though. What do you think? I don’t think Audi will get rid of their 5 cylinder. It’s a unique selling point for the Audi entry RS models.
They "just" bring them back from the death, as a trademark for audi, vw had also a v5 with only one head. The 5 cyl everyone forgot is the familiy of Alfa/Fiat/Lancia, bad on mpg but very reliable and very good noise.
@@aaronditchfield781 I have a '94 S4 with the twenty valve. I have chipped it and put a performance exhaust on it. It has 231,000 on it. It probably is 0-60 in 5.5 seconds on a 4,000 pound car. It is the legendary 5 cylinder
My 1983 Mercedes 300D is a better car than your Toyota Celica. Same for the 240D. It will be around for much longer and it is much easier to work on. Also, it does not need a battery to run, an alternator to run, a fuel injection control unit, an ignition control unit, a distributor or spark plugs or a transmission module. Anyway, thanks for mentioning the best cars in the world on your Channel! Also, there's nothing wrong with the 240D. They are not as slow as people say they are. Most of them just need valve adjustments and some basic maintenance and they perform just as well as any other car. Clearly you've never driven one. I used to drive a 220 D for 5 years as my daily driver with 57 horsepower. No complaints.
Diesel is a superior technology to petrol. It boggles my mind how Americans never liked Diesels. The Chevy Chevette Isuzu Diesel was getting Prius like MPG in the 1970's. The old Merc Diesels are one of the best for sure. But the Sofim Diesel engine I had in a 1990 Renault Trafic van was awesome. So was the 1.9SDi in my 02 Skoda Fabia, and currently I am running a 04 2.5 CRDI Kia Sorento which uses a Hyundai improved version of Mitsubishi 2.5 Diesel. But the Saudi's and owners of the world want to kill Diesel.
still our old 230.6 benz , 1976 model ,with a petrol engine, inline 6 kicked out 120hp. it was an absolute beast back in the day and lasted 30 years before we retired it. what a lovely lovely machine .
I have a V70 Diesel 5 and I love it. Its on 420.000 km now. The D5 do have vibrations in idle and very low RPMs, and I promise you, its very very sexy. in high speeds it incredible smooth The roar of the the D5 is a low budget V8 feeling and the torque is fantastic. Some people love it, some people like other cars
I got a 5cyl 2446cc in an Abarth FIAT Stilo. Was jointly developed with Renault and Volvo and used in 2000s onwards. Delivers an unstressed (but torque) 170hp. Beautifully smooth.
Funny how Cat had to put all sorts of counter balancers on their 4 and 6 cyl inline engines. But when they tried the 3 and 5 cyl they didn't have to. Heck my Kubota is a 3 cyl and it run so good. When i was a kid Dodge came out with the slant 6 which was a power house. The Military loved it because of its power. Mostly used in 5/4 ton trucks.
6 cylinders have inherent primary balance, but not the best secondary balance because they swing pairs of pistons together. Pistons 3 and 4 swing as a pair right next to each other and sort of act like a single mass. 5 cylinder engines aren't balanced in primary forces, but they have great secondary balance so they're known for being much happier at high rpm.
My 2005 Volvo XC70 automatic , which I bought from new, and still have, has a 5-cylinder engine . There are no vibrations and for some years I towed a caravan ( trailer in the US ) and it was comfortable at up to 80mph on motorways . It is still running well.
I OWN a Volvo V50 T5. which has a 2,5 liter 5 cylinder Turbo mptor, and it's a Great car. The engine is smooth, economical, and has heaps of Torque, probaly mostly due to the Turbo? Anyone who either has or does own a 5 cylinder Volvo car will know exactly what I am talking about? The other thing that Scotty has failed to mention is that the Audi Quattro that was a Very Successful Rally car in it's day had a ,Wait For It, 5 cylinder turbocharged motor.
I have the v70xc with the same engine and its all wheel drive. It dosent like to do doughnuts until around 4k in some gravle. It car really get sideways lmao
I owned an Acura vigor with the 5 cylinder. Drove it to well over 300,000 km. Never had a problem and it ran as well when I sold it as when I bought. All I had done to it was change the oil at the recommended intervals and replace the timing belt every 100,000 km.
You forgot to mention the best and fastest 5 cylinder ever made. That one is the FIAT coupe. Just think about the power output and its achievements for the time when it was made. I also think it is good looking considering its age.
The best and fastest... Bro, quattro s1? Does it ring a bell or 2? 600hp and awesome reliability when it was produced for the road with 300hp? Fiat coupe is a very problematic car. ITs a nice car but not reliable. Audi and Merc are the best in 5 cyls.
Thats depends on the component. Things like air intake is fine, my last car was a 2006 gm model with 123k on the clock, still going strong, but things with the rocker gasket were all metal. Im a bit more cautious with my current car which is also gm but has a plastic rocker cover
I've got a 1990 Audi 90 with the I5 2309cc 20v (7A) 170hp engine. That engine is very smooth! Crossflow head, factory stainless equal length tubular exhaust manifold, 7k rpm. Still going strong and sounds gorgeous.
Volvo 5 cyl, my S70 is my commute to work car, have a C70 for cruising around. A few did have head gasket issues but I've never has an major issue with any of them.
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Hello I drive a 5 cylinder Volvo XC70 2007 2.4 l turbo. Volvo started building car’s with 5 cylinder engines as far as 1939. I think their sourced them from a (german) manufacturer called Penta (penta from latin) means 5. They eventually bought them out. My Volvo has 166,000 km which some people say is the breaking in period for that car. Thank you for you videos and your no nonsense approach to things. Note: Ford also looked at 5 c engine in the 1930’s
I have a 2006 Volvo V50 T5 with close to 300k and it has never had any major engine work. It has the factory turbo and still pulls like new. Thanks for the videos!
I'll keep my 5 cylinder engined Volvo S60R, it's only got 250,000 miles on it... and still makes over 300 HP (the change to a front mounted intercooler helped.. but that doesn't have anything to do with being 5 cylinders...) . True, Volvo went away from 5's - but that is because everything is a 4 cylinder that is an electric generator as much as a locomotion maker... and trying to move away from internal combustion all together...
Scotty, dude, sometimes it's best to just keep quiet if you're not 100% accurate on something. The Volvo C30 T5 is a winner. Great gas mileage, 227 HP, nice rumble to the engine, smooth yet sporty, no issues at almost 100K miles, superior passing ability...I could go on.
My 240D with automatic is even slower than the 300D. My dad had a Audi 5000cs turbo. It had a 70amp cooling fan which failed and burned up the main wiring harness in a catastrophic shower of sparks. It never ran right again.
Of course. The 300D's motor has 88 horsepower vs. 67 for the 240D. Both weigh about the same, about 3200 lbs. (300Ds with manual transmissions were European-market only.)
And some 240D owners say it makes them a safer driver with the slower car because they have to anticipate pulling out, passing, merging, etc., ahead of time.
While your all on the subject with Volvos had a T5 xc70 for ages, traded it for a AWD xc90 with a unique Yamaha V8 4.4ltr front wheel drive engine, sounds amazing with the rear muffler deleted
I own a Mercedes sprinter 2006 with a 5 cylinder 2.6 litre diesel. It is a motorhome with 300000 km on the clock. The first time I drove it I had to pass a road train (Australia) and it accelerated to 140 km/ h, in the length of the road train. Fastest vehicle I have ever owned!
Scotty i like jour videos, but here jou are a bit wrong and i dont agree with you. I have owned all kind of cars with: 4 cil, 5 cil, V6, straight 6, but i went back to volvo with inline 5 cil engine, because it has a beautiful sound, good gas milage and volvos 5 cil petrol engines are bullet proof, if jou know hot to maintain that engine, jeah, it has some flaws but it will last forever, and in my volvo 850 it is going prety good, even with more than a 600 000 km on it with original gearbox and engine. I also own audi 100 avant 1984 quattro C3 with 5 cil 2.2 petrol engine, and still it works fine and works beautiful after all these years and that engine is simple as can be, and saound of 5 cil engines are realy, realy beautiful. I say It is all about maintanance.
5 cylinder Audi D5252T turbodiesel was rebuilt by Volvo in my 850 SW - car odometer now shows more than 600000 miles (car - 1996 years made). And no problems with this type of engine (only in cold winters in Lithuania , when one of the ignition plugs are not working). This engine has very special sound and when it is cold - more vibrations. But it is like animal when it is warm. One of the most underrated diesel engines
I had a few Audi 5 cylinders and they were great engines. I think one of the factors for their extraordinary longevity is the fact that they had six main bearings to compensate for the inherent unbalance. Never had a problem with a water pump - you change them when you do the timing belt. The power steering pumps however are an altogether different story - they operated at 150 bar!
The five cylinder turbo in the RS3 is widely referred to as half of a V10 from the Gallardo the engineering design in the way it's built is straight off the V10 from the R8 / Gallardo hence the dual overhead cam and 8,500 RPM Red line
Hey Scotty my friend has one of those benz still and its running just fine i think its a 1982 mercedes e class 240 running on diesel manual transmission and has like 350`000km on it
Димитър Андонов the most km ive seen in a car is in some old benz sprinters that they use for transporting stuff but never seen that much in a normal car
I have XC60 D5 and XC70 D5 and nobody will tell me about smoothness of those engines. Best cars I ever had. and I started from 140 series through 240, 960, 850.V70 and XC 70 the first generation
I have a S60 t5 with 300+hp and 420+ nm, sadly volvo doesn't make the 5 cylinder engines anymore, all volvos now have a 2L 4cyl. They do however get impressive numbers from those small beasts
Scottys got this one wrong uhhhhohhhhh the first mass produced 5 cylinder car made was in 1974 it was the Audi 5000 and 100 the 300D was after this 76 i believe was the first Audi went on to make the 5 cylinder Engine the most powerful engine in a car ever made and in 1984 The Audi Quattro S1 and S2 Group B that could handle and produce 800hp+ the 5 cylinder was like no other car power reliable and made a sound that would give a nun a wet dream
Your talking Race cars, Race gas, tuned to the Edge of Blowing up. Not Street. I doubt your 5 cylinder Audi could beat a Hemi Cuda in the Day. Keep Dreaming...😣
I drive a 5 cyl. Volvo, no strange vibrations , my v8s shake more, and 4 cyl. Engine rattle apart. Ive always loved the magic 5. Very torqy, and definatly durable gotta love 300 lb of torque from a 2.5
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Bi-turbo V16 engine🚗😱
Make a video on twincharged engines the engines wgich have a supercharger and a turbo
Scotty Kilmer u good
Hi Scotty, I have a chance to buy a 2011 Hyundai Sonata 2.4l . It has 175k km I was just wondering about your opinion on this type of vehicle. Ty.
"Even Volvo", WTF? Volvo have made some of if not the best 5 cylinder engines, period (even Ford used the Volvo 5 cylinder engines). They are SUPER smooth (almost as smooth as 6), sound great at idle and under acceleration. They made them from the early 90's right up until recently (almost every engine they made in the era was a 5, 4's and 6's much less common)..... Only ended due to Volvo being a small company and needing to rationalise cost. Quite sad really to see such a beautiful engine die for cost savings.
Own the B5244t5, no problems so far. Manual 6 gear.
Exactly. I had a 5 cylinder 2.3l T5 that was bulletproof. I regret selling it.
Yeah Scotty is pretty clueless about most things regarding Volvo.
yeah but what can you do with a 5 cylinder engine when the AT gearbox fails as every volvo nowadays fails
@@audex Your a clown. Volvo transmissions don't fail any differently than others. Neglect due to not doing fluid changes. Do your research, Volvo make manual transmissions in-house, but the auto transmissions are either GM or Aisin Warner (same as used in a huge variety of vehicles). If anything, the Aisin Warner transmissions fail earlier in Volvo's than other makes like Toyota because the Toyota's have no Torque, whereas Volvo has embraced Turbo Charging decades ahead of most others. Maintain your transmission and change the fluid every 30-40 K miles and mostly it's going to be just fine (except the GM transmission in earlier T6 models, which is apparently good once rebuilt with the GM HD kit). It's not a hard concept.
Funny he only mention Volvo once dude Volvo is famous for them
He doesnt have s clue
Exactly the 5 bangers from Volvo are the best by far. In fact they are derived from the Audi 5 bangers but run much better and are in all aspects better
Audi is also famous for their 5cylinders
@channel 9 no they are not..
@@kingofohio5689 The Jetta (Vento here in Argentina) had a 2.5 5 cyl engine.
the volvo 5 cyl was a really great motor, I have one with 130K another with 180K miles. The turbo one get 30mpg and has 250hp at the same time!
only 30? Heard it was more. I'm looking for the 170hp version.
hows reliability on those things? i wanted one soooo bad, they look like gorgeous vehicles, but settled for a mitsubishi in fear of maintenance costs, i mean it is a european luxury car after all.
I have the 170 hp one and it runs fantastic after 220 000 miles, just care for it right and it will take care of you, it is built for longevety. And you will never get tired of that amazing sound.
@@imnoahc I've owned an S70 2.4 10 valve with 140hp or so. It sounds real good and from what i know they are quite bulletproof motors, like most old volvo engines are. And dont mistake "european luxury cars" like mercedes or audi with volvo. Volvos have a very good reputation for reliability and lowish maintenance costs compared to germans. And they are (atleast older ones) less luxurious, but more reliable and less prone to rust. The downside on older volvos is the sluggishness and high fuel consumption.
But in my opinion on you going for a mitsubishi was a safe bet. You cannot beat the japanese in build quality, reliability, fuel economy and low costs.
Keith Jenkins the old 164 E and the 850 had the five cylinder engine.
The soundtrack of the fire breathing 20 valve, 5 cylinder Audi Quattro sport is simply breathtaking
Fiat Coupe checking in, can concur
10 valve sounds better
@@MrTdr01 I've heard that said, though never experienced a 10v in person. My own 20v (3B distributor) sounds more rorty than my mates' coilpack AAN, I know that much.
Audi?? Endless money pits
@@anthonytan2074 I had an Audi (1990) coupe with a 2.3 inline 5. That car was hands down the most reliable car I ever owned. The only reason it was sold was because someone from Colorado offered me a bunch of money for it. I miss it. It had 230,000 miles when sold.
I still have my Mercedes 300SD Turbo Diesel 1985 5 cylinder!!! Engine designation is the OM617. Bought her second hand ten years ago (2010) and I used her as my daily driver until now 2019!!! And boy.. She drives like a dream!!! I give her 50km a day for 5 days a week. She just doesn't quit!!! She truly enjoys the miles and miles on end!!!! No smoke at all!!! WHAT A CAR!!!
I had a 80s Mercedes 300SD with so many miles I can't even remember. I had to sell it because the body was falling apart. A guy that lived 3 hours away bought it over the phone. Reason? He wanted the engine!
I just wrote a story about the 300d I grew up driving. they were a hellof a car i agree.
Gotta keep the throttle linkage adjusted, the joints get loose and the turbo doesn't kick in at the right time and it'll drive like a dog.
I drove one until the tranny or torque converter went out, not sure 'cause I didn't bother to fix it. I really liked it though. Had to change the fuel filter a lot, and then I was told to just fill the filter with ATF and screw it back on.
Richard Gates Also, don’t be afraid to put your foot down on the accelerator and keep it there to keep the engine in that 2200-4000 rpms sweet spot.
@@maduross I love my 300D. Some funky things with it, such as when its cold. It takes a solid 10 seconds for the rpms to barely reach 3000, and when it does it just jerks forward and accelerates pretty damn nicely actually. When the engine is warm, i dont really get issues like that. That probably has to do with the turbo spooling at around 3000 rpms.
I’ve had two five cylinder Volvo’s and they have both been extremely reliable plus the sound is perfect
There is something very "growly" about the sound of the I-5 engine. It's sort of like a large wildcat.
I have a 2007 S40 2.4i inline 5. Love the car the engine has a decent rumble to it even stock, great torque, I had it up to 180km on the hwy, driven lots of hwy, main streets and side streets and I don't get any vibration or non smooth drive at certain speeds. For the year of my car Volvo had refined their inline 5 to a really good point and used it in quite a few models. Too bad the last year they used them was 2014. The newer Volvo stuff is way too complicated and pricey venturing into unproven tech I'm not sure how well they will age but the early 2000's - 2010's are a good market, you can drive a luxury car that's actually durable and sensible unlike the German brands.
They are so good. T5 just bought, fast and smooth..Best engine to date..
5 cylinder motors from Volvo are still great. They were so good that Focus RS used it too. Smooth and powerful motors with great sound.
My Volvo has 5 cylinders engine. It's so smooth and quite. Such a reliable engine bt5244t3, if you maintaine them. So many of them easy make up to 500k. Great short vid. Tnx, Scotty.
And its sounds amazing
Your comment made me buy a 70 series volvo. It was the straw that broke the back.
It's true, in the Volvo they are almost as smooth as the six cylinder engines. Impressive stuff they did. In the Audis they are more raw, savage and cool
@@Quip1337x hey, i own an s70, the 165 hp version. recently got to 28 0 K kilometers and never have I had mechanical issues on that thing. Except the engine temp meeter
@@airconditioningsounds9316 going on a year with no engine trouble. A lot had to be fixed that was not engine related. I went with a 98' C70. It's a coupe hard top 205k miles, 240 hp with the high pressure turbo $1000. I have put about 2 grand or so into fixing some things on it. In retrospect, If I knew the C70 was so rare I would have gone with the S70 because parts are way way more expencive on the C70 hard top.
the volvo 5cyl was pretty good, especially in turbo form.
My VW 2.5 doesn’t vibrate. Been reliable so far. I do enjoy the sound it makes tho
That's what I was going to say.
None of them vibrate. The inline 4s do actually vibrate naturally.
The man has no clue...
The 2.5 will probably be the last great bulletproof engine vw has made.
Paul van Lieshout I just made a public comment providing some info that might clue him in...if he reads that is...
Scotty doesn’t like vws but the 2.5 is a fantastic engine. Got 340k on mine and it runs as good as new
Still got 2 Mercedes 300D turbos. Both engines have over 300,000 miles and still keeps up in highway speeds. I believe the OM617 engine is one of the greatest diesel engines ever built and they won't be going away soon. Plus EVERYTHING on that engine is mechanical, not any electronics you have to deal with.
and that its mechanical, it can run on different fuels like used vegatable oils, motor oil, transformer oil and many other :D
@@ДимитърАндонов-ъ7е Yes! I've used SVO on one of the cars and I have to say it's not hard to modify.
My dad has om616 with over 900k miles and his current car uses om602 5cyl turbo and it has 770 thousand miles and never replaced the timing chain and never opened engine
my dad put a 300D engine in his boat haha! (Opstomer 1100 OK)
Nice. I want an om617 or on616. I have a '94 s350d with the om603. Almost 400k.
I had a customer once, with a late 90's Audi 100 2.5 TDI inline 5. It was closing in on 1.000.000 km, which is very rare in my country, but the engine was still running great.
The car actually looked brand new. The customer really took care of his car.
Love that engine. They are pretty underated.
Likely one of the best engines of all time - had one too.
Volvo used 5 cylinder engines from 1991 to 2016, and I have owed 2, the T5 petrol and D5 , the first was a performance engine, the latter was a 185 hp diesel. I liked them and as you noted, they have a particular sound - sort of off-beat noise. The petrol was very smooth and the diesel less so. Reliable and bullet proof.
Back when Volvo was good, the 850 was an average 450,000 mile car without any replacements. Inline 5.
I am still driving my 97 850 R and my wife drives a 98 V70 Cross Country and we will not willingly get rid of them!
The old professor
PS: I have been a mechanic for 59 years.
Even volvo...volvo used that engine as their main engine for over a decade
More like two our three decades
I describe the GM 5 cylinder engine as "the power of a four, with the economy of a six"
Lol
Those Hummer H3's make a little more torque at least since the crank is longer than a 4 cylinder. They idle so rough that the slightest charging system problem or vacuum leak will stall it lol. I put one in reverse with a very bad battery and it stalled. Didn't do that again after replacing the battery.
Reminds me of what I used to say about the 3.0L V6 I had in a Toyota pickup... Power of a four, fuel economy of an eight. lol
That's what Audi said in their campaigns in the 1980's
Audi didn't say that, read the original comment again. It was more power than a 4 better economy than a 6. The Europeans mastered the 5 cylinder so much so that the Japanese and others thought it was a good idea and failed miserably(honda, GM).
Talks about 5 cylinder engines
Only mentions Volvo once.
3/10 Not enough Volvo - IGN
Not even Audi , a bit stupid , but on the other end , he's from texas.
And what about Fiat/Lancia 5 cylinders ? Both powered by diesel or gas...
I like my volvo D5 engine, 300 000km now, its a keeper 👌
Frederick Thoms change the motor mounts
The sound in the 2,4 Volvo 5 cylinder is amazing.
And the 6 cylinder is even better..
my dad's 5-cylinder 2004 chevy colorado was pretty good. ran great up to 140k miles and sounded pretty cool actually. he had to get rid of it this year because the frame was totally rusted out. used to park on the grass a lot, limited driveway space.... learned our lesson the hard way!
Volvo made the best 5 cylinder by far, and the D5 diesel from Volvo is still made for sailboats. Volvo 5 cylinder torque is plenty. Volvo motors are often really tall and have a long stroke compared to others. This allowed them to fit them in an engine bay easier and giving them best in class torque.
A VW engine ;) found in the Transporter/Caravelle (Eurovan is what the USA called it, but don't think they had the D option)
Thomas Greenall VW only manufactured the D24 for old rwd Volvos. D5 is developed by Volvo and Volvo Penta for some reason calls it the D3. Same thing though just teal and brass fittings and stuff for the marine market.
My focus has this volvo motivation💪
My Volvo 5 cyl turbo
I got a v70 D5. Chip tuned to 200bhp, 400k miles and dry as a nun's crutch.
I had a 240 D. People would blow their horn at me because they thought I was driving slow on purpose . Also, I never pulled out in traffic from a side street until it was completely clear in both directions. Still, it was a beautiful car!
I drove a 300D. But it had transmission issues and the turbo wasn't working I think.
@fox Most likely a vacuum issue.
@@spindedark Yeah. Those are usually easy to fix on them.
I want a 240d with a manual transmission. I have a '94 s350d diesel and love it. Almost has 400k. I watch Kent Bergsma with Mercedes source. He's the Scotty Kilmer of old Mercedes diesels.
Keep your eye out for a manual 5 speed. If you like you can put that OM617 in the 240 and you would have a nice car with that manual. The W123 chassis are some of the best car Benz made. Is your '94 350D the 6 cly. OM603? did you have issuse with the rods bending? I watch Kent also. I tell you I have learn a lot about the Mercedes from watching his videos.
VW's 2.5 I5 engine is a tank, just saying. They don't do exceptionally well in efficiency or power and that's why they last forever. It's a low stress engine that's exceptionally balanced (as far as 5 cyls go). They're... too reliable, that's why they aren't made anymore.
glad I just bought a used MK5 Jetta with this engine. Isn't that engine actually from Audi?
That 2.5 sounds like a tractor when you first start it, but it is a workhorse
There is also a vr5 engine in mk4's in europe 150 or 170hp
I have an MK5 rabbit it with the 2.5 I5 haven't really had any issues. Although everything is just a money pit the electronics break , a lot
I have 2012 VW Passat 2.5 5 Cyl. Drove more than 100,000 miles no problem still doing great no unusual sound
I'd say the VW 2.5 5 cylinder was the highest volume 5 cylinder engine ever sold. Sold mostly in jettas from 2005-2015 and other various vw products throughout that time.
And an excellent reliable motor, arguably the best vw motor ever imo. They’re powerful enough and they never die. To bad the manuals were geared so low. Gas mileage hangs around 29 but with a taller 5th or 6th I think they could have got to mid 30s
i have a vw 2.5 5 cylinder in my golf and it’s super smooth and has plenty of punch to it
Volvo made makes 2.5 5 pots too
I own a VW Jetta Variant 2.5 5 cylinders 2012 130k Km produced in Mexico.
Man, I loved my Volvo V70 (1st gen), it had such a cool 5 cylinder. Naturally aspirated gasoline, 2.4l 170hp (although mine probably had half that by the end of its life LOL), GREAT and beefy sound, I really miss it. Volvo used 5 cylinders in their cars for quite a while, popularized by the 850 in 1991, and used in the V70 up to 2009 if you don't count the diesel versions.
I love the Audi and Volvo 5 cilinder engine sounds! It's like the poor man's V10 :)
Audi made the best 5inline gasoline engine AAR/NG.
They easily run over 600 000 km, easy repair and service.
If motoroil change 10000 km period and use fully synthetic motoroil.
@@jukkaleppanen2071 No AARguement, only adding more AANgine.
Audi 5 zyl is the best 5 cylinder engine
600.000 is extremely difficult to find. Usually they have to be rebuilded at 400 to 500k kms. The most durable 5cyl are from Mercedes (diesel) which can be seen with 1,5 million kms and way over on factory engine. Audi is good, but Mb is better :)
@@FabioGs007 One is a snail, the other a hare! The diesel in the Mercedes was designed for longevity. The modern Audi 5-cylinder is a highly-strung petrol rocket.
Volvo's 2.4L 5cyl back in the 90's was a robust engine. Those things run a long time.
My previous car was a 2.5L 5 cyl Volvo 850. It was a very nice car.
It was not a Volvo but a vw
It was a volvo engine. It used their modular platform. The VAG engine you have in mind is the 2.5 TDI engine.
The VW Jetta has also a 5 cyl gas engine with 2.5L
I just about to talk about that. Knew some dude that used to brag about his Volvo 5 cylinder 😂
Scotty. I had Mercedes 300D 5 cylinder and I love it. It was working like a well build Swiss made watch. Never had a better engine in my life.
I agree....had one myself, a 300TD turbodiesel 1985...supercar!
Agree, i currently HAVE a 300D 1985... It has enough juice, not slow at all. Turbo and more fuel made big difference... Normally aspirated 240 and 300 are slow for sure...
I have an 84 wagon, not a rocket put pretty good acceleration. Love the 5 cyl Diesel! 28 mpg in a 4000lb car.
Getting one this Saturday can’t wait
They truly are the best engines out there! I'm putting one in a Ford ranger. Can't wait to see it run! My daily driver is a 300sd with 200,000 miles and runs like a top. Gose to and from Arizona to California every 2 weeks even pulling a 700 lbs trailer
My 86 audi 4000 5 cylinder is bulletproof, 241,000 miles and still going strong
"The 5-cylinder engine didn't really work." Really? Poor Scotty. Either he is losing it or he hasn't done his homework. Check out AUDI's race history. I love my VW I-5 with no turbo and still puts out 170 hp with 171 ft-lbs of torque. At over 154K miles, it burns no oil, has no leaks and has been super reliable. AND it sounds great above 4000 rpms.
5 cyclinder engines are my favourite. they are like mini v10's. they are smooth, powerful, and sound incredible.
here are some of the best 5 cylinders that you can still buy used:
the audi rs3 and ttrs have 2.5l turbo 5 cylinders which produce almost 400bhp (still on sale)
many volvos such as the v70r, c70, c30 polestar (Which is also in the old focus rs)
the vw mk4 came in a v5 option which was also found in some vw jettas though they dont sound as good as straight 5's
fiat bravo, fiat marea and finally, my favourite:
The *F I A T C O U P E 20v T U R B O* which i will hopefully buy as they are appreciating, rare classics which produces stunning power, noises and have amazing looks both in and out.
I have Fiat 20vt engine in Lancia - it truly is amazing, but certainly needs quite a bit of love and a good, clean oil. Otherwise it will turn the crankshaft bearings, been there, done that. Compared to it, my old Honda straight 4 (D16Z2) didn't give me headaches, but no big grin either.
One more. Current ford focus RS,but they tent to have head gasket failure
The focus used a volvo engine xD
The Coupe Turbo had a limited edition with LSD and 6 speed gearbox, never find one for sale yet.
my friend owns a volvo s60 with the turbo 5 cylinder
s60r's are stunning cars especially the ones with the orangy tan leather colour.
Owned a 82 Audi 5000. Fantastically reliable and fun to drive.
I had a Mercedes Benz 300D I absolutely loved that engine!
I've got a Volvo S80 D3 with a 5cylinder diesel and it's amazing! Done 260,000miles and the sound is exquisite (half truck/car) very satisfying plus smooth at 700rpm.
I had a 1982 5 cylinder VW Passat. It was a work of genius, and indestructible. Well, until i broke it, but it took me a long time and lots of abuse. Still miss that car.
High torque of 5 cyc engine character is addictive
My 2008 VW Rabbit 2.5 has 170 hp and 177 ft-lbs of torque. The low-end torque is wonderful and SMOOTH. No "different" sounds at any rpm's.
Vw 5 cylinder is one of my favorite most reliable engine I’ve ever driven
My mk5 Jetta 2.5 has zero problems no lights on and I beat it hard I’m impressed with how tight it drives
Ditto Bro. I have 160,000miles on my Jetta and absolutely no issues. Runs strong...
David Stevenson I have a 2009 Jetta S with 124K Miles, no problems at all. My wife has 2013 Jetta SE with 50k miles. Both run well, no problems, they run smoothly and have enough power on the open highway. They both drive tight.
I just got one too with 120kkm on the clock. the engine is super smooth and silent like a mercedes. and just the right amount of power. Just the fuel consumption ain't great, but I guess you just can't have it all.
Hey David...go easy on the Mk V buddy, they're classic. I had a 2008 Jetta "S" with the 2.5 and the sounds that engine made can only be described as sweeeeet. Loved that car. I'm now in another Mk V....a 2010 Jetta Wolfsburg Edition with the 2.0 turbo engine and am loving that as well. Happy motoring buddy.
You think the Mercedes 240D couldn't get out of its own way? Ha! My father had a 1968 Mercedes 220D 4-speed manual, bought new for about $6000, as I recall. You could go from 0 to 60 MPH in a day! Yes, it was slow to accelerate, but once you hit cruising speed, like 80 MPH on rural interstate, it could hold that speed all day. (That was before the 1973 oil crisis, and the 55 limit that came with it.) It wore like iron, and was finally traded in 1980. 4-wheel disk brakes, responsive steering, and smooth riding.
Diesel cars were so unusual then, we once we had a panicked gas station owner come running out when he saw his kid pumping diesel (as requested). He had visions of having to drain and replace our fuel tank on his dime.
I had a buddy that worked at champion racing and at the time they were using 5 cylinder Volvos, all wheel drive.(70% in the front and 30% in the rear) They'd take a regular Volvo and strip it down and race it in the GT class or American road racing class. They never won, but they did place in second a couple of times.(in their class)
I think 5 cylinders sound kind of like a V10.
Well, they're kind of half a V10, so they sound like half a V10. You can't make the same analogy with straight 4 and V8 though, because the firing order is completely different.
@@Fred_P I think it depends on which v8 you're talking about whether it's crossplane or flatplane crankshaft
Fred P V4 sounds like baby V8, but nobody really makes any cars with those anymore, the last ones i can think of were the Ford's Taunus discontinued in 1981 and ZAZ's MeMZ-968 discontinued in 1994.
My vw mk5 2.5 sounds sick lol
Then go and heal the poor thing! :D
I love the sound of the S70 5 cylinder engine. Yea it does have some weird viberations, but it's still very smooth.
Yea they can go 500k plus miles too.
Yeah me too! The vibration is really only noticeable < 900 rpm and between 1400-1800 rpm. I think that’s why they idle relatively high and were geared to go over 1800 rpm at 50+ mph.
..... harmonic displacement hard to pick up on in 5 cylinders because of the smaller bore size than 4 cylinders. Dead cylinder on those 2.4 liters actually ran smoother....
I have to say I love the Volvo 5 cylinder... it was a sad day when the UK Focus ST lost it's Volvo motor.
Can't say I've noticed much in the way of vibration at all in the 850 T5 I had. Seems bizarre that Scotty was like 'Even Volvo made a 5 cylinder!" 😂 in Europe and a lot of other places when you think 5 cylinders you automatically think of Audi or Volvo. Fiat did a nice sounding 5 cylinder too.
@ yeah I think of Volvo when I think of 5's. They've been doing it forever and it's a solid engine. One of the best.
I had a Audio 4000 Quattro 5+5, I absolutely loved that engine. It had a distinct sound and even though it wasn't loaded with power, it felt like it had guts.
I'm waiting for my w210 merc wagon, which is coming on monday, has the om612 5 cyl diesel, I'm in love with it's revs. I mean, basicly in love with the entire engine, and entire car.
The VW 2.5 is an incredible engine. I own 2 of them. Bullet proof, and run forever. I've had ZERO issues with my 2006 Rabbit with the 2.5 5 cylinder. 165,000 miles so far with no issues.
I have 340k on my jetta, still has original clutch, starter and alternator. And gets the same mpg as when I bought it at 18k. Excellent motor
There were other exceptions to the rule. The Lancia/Fiat derived 2ltr 20v turbo engine was phenomenal.. Would be reliable to 260bhp with stock internals, capable of well over 200k miles with regular oil changes.. Stroked to 2.4ltr it was capable of over 500bhp.. Awsome sound, performance and reliability...
Hi Scotty, thanks for your great info on car repair. As a daily driver of several cars with an Audi 5 cylinder engine since 1990, I like to add that indeed with modern turbo charged 4 cylinders, there is possibly little going for a 5 cylinder. As a car enthusiast, there is a different side to it. The ignition sequence 12453 makes it unique, and between 3500-4500 they sound better then a V8. The 80's Audi engines, with their simple Bosch K-Jetronic, keep running forever, with economic gas usage of around 28 miles per gallon. My 87 Audi 5000S is cheap to drive, and great fun as well with its 137HP. In Europe Audi sold 5 cylinder cars with carburetors, they used the Zentith 3B3 and the Keihin 28-32 models, the design of the intake manifold is essential to get it working. The power range of these 2.2 liter 5 cylinder engines ranged from 115-220 HP for street cars, and up to 750 HP for world championship rally cars.
What do you think about electric power steering cars?
He covered it already. Mentioned about the new Mustangs having it. He thought it was good.
I like it
My '16 Mustang has electric assist steering. *MUCH* better than an engine-belt-driven pump with fluid in it. Easier to steer, able to change steering modes on a whim & mostly...more responsive!
Pretty garbage. Cool idea, but they're way more prone to fucking up and more expensive to service than the classic hydraulic systems. In my opinion. I feel like you can't feel the road as well either. Feels odd to me.
I drive regularly a car with hydraulic steering (my '04 WRX) and sometimes car with electric steering (my dad's '13 Elantra). Electric is very easy on you, good for commuting, but it feels weird without road feedback like in hydraulic system which I enjoy for "fun" driving
I had a 5 cylinder 2.5 litre turbo diesel engine in my 2003 VW Caravelle (Euro Van).
I sold it with 350,000 miles on the engine and still going strong. I still see it driving about now locally.
And your right about the strange sound of the 5 cylinder engine. I liked it though 😊
Yes, I did have a 2.2 turbo 20 valve Audi Coupe S2 quattro 1991 (3B engine), the pinnacle of 5 cyl development, and yes it was beyond belief smooth and had a ton of power, and never ever let me down.
Please post a picture or video. I knew somone that had a Volvo 5 Cylinder here in USA and would always show off
The Audi RS3 probably won’t be for a few more years though. What do you think? I don’t think Audi will get rid of their 5 cylinder. It’s a unique selling point for the Audi entry RS models.
They "just" bring them back from the death, as a trademark for audi, vw had also a v5 with only one head. The 5 cyl everyone forgot is the familiy of Alfa/Fiat/Lancia, bad on mpg but very reliable and very good noise.
audis v5 stopped in 1997
Aaron Ditchfield Yep, all the do right now is an in-line 5
Only VW and Seat got the VR5 engine.
@@aaronditchfield781 I have a '94 S4 with the twenty valve. I have chipped it and put a performance exhaust on it. It has 231,000 on it. It probably is 0-60 in 5.5 seconds on a 4,000 pound car. It is the legendary 5 cylinder
The Mk2 ford focus uses the 5 pot from volvo and is wonderful.
My 1983 Mercedes 300D is a better car than your Toyota Celica. Same for the 240D. It will be around for much longer and it is much easier to work on. Also, it does not need a battery to run, an alternator to run, a fuel injection control unit, an ignition control unit, a distributor or spark plugs or a transmission module. Anyway, thanks for mentioning the best cars in the world on your Channel!
Also, there's nothing wrong with the 240D. They are not as slow as people say they are. Most of them just need valve adjustments and some basic maintenance and they perform just as well as any other car. Clearly you've never driven one. I used to drive a 220 D for 5 years as my daily driver with 57 horsepower. No complaints.
Diesel is a superior technology to petrol. It boggles my mind how Americans never liked Diesels. The Chevy Chevette Isuzu Diesel was getting Prius like MPG in the 1970's. The old Merc Diesels are one of the best for sure. But the Sofim Diesel engine I had in a 1990 Renault Trafic van was awesome. So was the 1.9SDi in my 02 Skoda Fabia, and currently I am running a 04 2.5 CRDI Kia Sorento which uses a Hyundai improved version of Mitsubishi 2.5 Diesel. But the Saudi's and owners of the world want to kill Diesel.
My first car was a 1980 240D Merc! Im missing it lately!
still our old 230.6 benz , 1976 model ,with a petrol engine, inline 6 kicked out 120hp. it was an absolute beast back in the day and lasted 30 years before we retired it. what a lovely lovely machine .
I have a 240d with 4 speed stick, which I love to drive. The 300d in the US were overwhelmingly automatics. So there is that.
I have a V70 Diesel 5 and I love it. Its on 420.000 km now.
The D5 do have vibrations in idle and very low RPMs, and I promise you, its very very sexy.
in high speeds it incredible smooth
The roar of the the D5 is a low budget V8 feeling and the torque is fantastic.
Some people love it, some people like other cars
I got a 5cyl 2446cc in an Abarth FIAT Stilo. Was jointly developed with Renault and Volvo and used in 2000s onwards. Delivers an unstressed (but torque) 170hp. Beautifully smooth.
Wish we could get such a Fiat in the U.S.
5 cylinders sound awesome
So do 3 cylinders.
Funny how Cat had to put all sorts of counter balancers on their 4 and 6 cyl inline engines. But when they tried the 3 and 5 cyl they didn't have to. Heck my Kubota is a 3 cyl and it run so good. When i was a kid Dodge came out with the slant 6 which was a power house. The Military loved it because of its power. Mostly used in 5/4 ton trucks.
I just need to understand - who would want to balance a six cylinder engine? They're already in perfect balance
6 cylinders have inherent primary balance, but not the best secondary balance because they swing pairs of pistons together. Pistons 3 and 4 swing as a pair right next to each other and sort of act like a single mass.
5 cylinder engines aren't balanced in primary forces, but they have great secondary balance so they're known for being much happier at high rpm.
Scotty when are u goin to make the “who Makes better engines Honda or Toyota ?”
You know he's going to say Toyota.
Anderson Rodriguez i have a honda engine in my lawn mower.
Oh dayum, that's good one. xD
Toyotas may have the better engines, but Honda has way better handling and just a more driver-focused car instead of Toyota's "family fun" car
I disagree. Honda makes better engines. Toyota makes better overall cars.
The best 5c engine is volvo.
My 2005 Volvo XC70 automatic , which I bought from new, and still have, has a 5-cylinder engine .
There are no vibrations and for some years I towed a caravan ( trailer in the US ) and it was comfortable at up to 80mph on motorways .
It is still running well.
I OWN a Volvo V50 T5. which has a 2,5 liter 5 cylinder Turbo mptor, and it's a Great car. The engine is smooth, economical, and has heaps of Torque, probaly mostly due to the Turbo? Anyone who either has or does own a 5 cylinder Volvo car will know exactly what I am talking about? The other thing that Scotty has failed to mention is that the Audi Quattro that was a Very Successful Rally car in it's day had a ,Wait For It, 5 cylinder turbocharged motor.
Rod Anderson the T5 is actually 2.3L. I know it is confusing but believe me
I have the v70xc with the same engine and its all wheel drive. It dosent like to do doughnuts until around 4k in some gravle. It car really get sideways lmao
My Volvo s40 Has 230K miles and runs great and the low engine note on the engine revs is great, sounds faster then it is. lol
You managed to go the whole video without mentioning the largest user of 5-cylinder gas engines: Volvo.
Thomas Darby he did multiple times
I currently have a Volvo S60 2.4 diesel five cylinder & it's silly smooth
I owned an Acura vigor with the 5 cylinder. Drove it to well over 300,000 km. Never had a problem and it ran as well when I sold it as when I bought. All I had done to it was change the oil at the recommended intervals and replace the timing belt every 100,000 km.
You forgot to mention the best and fastest 5 cylinder ever made. That one is the FIAT coupe. Just think about the power output and its achievements for the time when it was made. I also think it is good looking considering its age.
Really??are you sure about this??
We never got it stateside, most of us don't know about it.
And yes, they tended to be unreliable
Here in Brazil there are a few 5 cyl models, and the FIAT Marea is very known to be unreliable, it breaks up and catch fire with ease
The best and fastest... Bro, quattro s1? Does it ring a bell or 2? 600hp and awesome reliability when it was produced for the road with 300hp? Fiat coupe is a very problematic car. ITs a nice car but not reliable. Audi and Merc are the best in 5 cyls.
Ever driven an AUDI RS3? Greased lightning and sounds great. Won engine of the year in 2017.
No engine component should use plastic. Great video!
Thats depends on the component. Things like air intake is fine, my last car was a 2006 gm model with 123k on the clock, still going strong, but things with the rocker gasket were all metal. Im a bit more cautious with my current car which is also gm but has a plastic rocker cover
I've got a 1990 Audi 90 with the I5 2309cc 20v (7A) 170hp engine. That engine is very smooth! Crossflow head, factory stainless equal length tubular exhaust manifold, 7k rpm. Still going strong and sounds gorgeous.
At one time owned 3 five cylinder engines in our family. A Volvo S60 and S40, and a Volkswagen Jetta. All actually ran well up to high mileage.
Don't forget about the legendary Audi RS 5 cylinder engine .
A masterpiece
Volvo 5 cyl, my S70 is my commute to work car, have a C70 for cruising around.
A few did have head gasket issues but I've never has an major issue with any of them.
Hello from Polish viewer here, howdy Mr.Kilmer, I love watching your videos, it's great listening to your dynamic high pitch voice with an amazing texan pronunciation! It's kind of really listener digest accent to me! keep doing these videos!good luck!
Hello I drive a 5 cylinder Volvo XC70 2007 2.4 l turbo. Volvo started building car’s with 5 cylinder engines as far as 1939. I think their sourced them from a (german) manufacturer called Penta (penta from latin) means 5. They eventually bought them out. My Volvo has 166,000 km which some people say is the breaking in period for that car. Thank you for you videos and your no nonsense approach to things. Note: Ford also looked at 5 c engine in the 1930’s
I have a 2006 Volvo V50 T5 with close to 300k and it has never had any major engine work. It has the factory turbo and still pulls like new. Thanks for the videos!
No mention of the Volvo T5 rocket! I had V70R AWD and it scared people.
I’ve had a few Volvos with the 5 cylinder units - they just sound fantastic with that warble and sounds unique.
Last time I was this early Scotty was a young mechanic
I'll keep my 5 cylinder engined Volvo S60R, it's only got 250,000 miles on it... and still makes over 300 HP (the change to a front mounted intercooler helped.. but that doesn't have anything to do with being 5 cylinders...) . True, Volvo went away from 5's - but that is because everything is a 4 cylinder that is an electric generator as much as a locomotion maker... and trying to move away from internal combustion all together...
Scotty, dude, sometimes it's best to just keep quiet if you're not 100% accurate on something. The Volvo C30 T5 is a winner. Great gas mileage, 227 HP, nice rumble to the engine, smooth yet sporty, no issues at almost 100K miles, superior passing ability...I could go on.
I had a 95 Volvo 850 and I loved the sound of that engine. Great road trip car. Also had an 81 diesel Audi 5000 non turbo and that was a stinker
Rev up your 5-cylinder engines!!! :D
My 240D with automatic is even slower than the 300D. My dad had a Audi 5000cs turbo. It had a 70amp cooling fan which failed and burned up the main wiring harness in a catastrophic shower of sparks. It never ran right again.
Of course. The 300D's motor has 88 horsepower vs. 67 for the 240D. Both weigh about the same, about 3200 lbs. (300Ds with manual transmissions were European-market only.)
Best cars to learn how to drive.
And some 240D owners say it makes them a safer driver with the slower car because they have to anticipate pulling out, passing, merging, etc., ahead of time.
Orjon Zaganjori, funny you say that because I did learn to drive in one in 1991.
AZMike safer and patient!
While your all on the subject with Volvos had a T5 xc70 for ages, traded it for a AWD xc90 with a unique Yamaha V8 4.4ltr front wheel drive engine, sounds amazing with the rear muffler deleted
I own a Mercedes sprinter 2006 with a 5 cylinder 2.6 litre diesel. It is a motorhome with 300000 km on the clock. The first time I drove it I had to pass a road train (Australia) and it accelerated to 140 km/ h, in the length of the road train. Fastest vehicle I have ever owned!
Focus ST/RS Mark 2 (UK) Volvo engine is a great example
Scotty i like jour videos, but here jou are a bit wrong and i dont agree with you. I have owned all kind of cars with: 4 cil, 5 cil, V6, straight 6, but i went back to volvo with inline 5 cil engine, because it has a beautiful sound, good gas milage and volvos 5 cil petrol engines are bullet proof, if jou know hot to maintain that engine, jeah, it has some flaws but it will last forever, and in my volvo 850 it is going prety good, even with more than a 600 000 km on it with original gearbox and engine. I also own audi 100 avant 1984 quattro C3 with 5 cil 2.2 petrol engine, and still it works fine and works beautiful after all these years and that engine is simple as can be, and saound of 5 cil engines are realy, realy beautiful. I say It is all about maintanance.
5 cylinder is ok, but straight 6 is the smoothest.
I5 = mini V10
I6 = mini V12
Love the volvo inline 5, but the gas milege is the last thing i would praise about it
Audi 2.1/2.2/2.3 5cyl engines are where the fun is. They are just great 😁
5 cylinder Audi D5252T turbodiesel was rebuilt by Volvo in my 850 SW - car odometer now shows more than 600000 miles (car - 1996 years made). And no problems with this type of engine (only in cold winters in Lithuania , when one of the ignition plugs are not working). This engine has very special sound and when it is cold - more vibrations. But it is like animal when it is warm. One of the most underrated diesel engines
I had a few Audi 5 cylinders and they were great engines. I think one of the factors for their extraordinary longevity is the fact that they had six main bearings to compensate for the inherent unbalance. Never had a problem with a water pump - you change them when you do the timing belt. The power steering pumps however are an altogether different story - they operated at 150 bar!
The five cylinder turbo in the RS3 is widely referred to as half of a V10 from the Gallardo the engineering design in the way it's built is straight off the V10 from the R8 / Gallardo hence the dual overhead cam and 8,500 RPM Red line
Best 5-cylinder engine made are the Volvo ones.
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Hey Scotty my friend has one of those benz still and its running just fine i think its a 1982 mercedes e class 240 running on diesel manual transmission and has like 350`000km on it
It doesn't have a log of km
Hahah, it’s like a brand new car in those Km 😀 I’ve seen some of them go to million km without engine work
zhbvenkhoReload my friend has a volkswagen passat for main use he uses the old Benz occasionally
Димитър Андонов the most km ive seen in a car is in some old benz sprinters that they use for transporting stuff but never seen that much in a normal car
Five cylinders sound like miniv10s. Thats why i love five cylinders.
My husband's 2011 Jetta SE 2.5 5 cylinder...My favorite car and still runs amazing. Got it used, paid it off and it is so fun to drive still.
I have XC60 D5 and XC70 D5 and nobody will tell me about smoothness of those engines. Best cars I ever had. and I started from 140 series through 240, 960, 850.V70 and XC 70 the first generation
Vovlo and Audi are still making 5 cylinder engines. Volvo also is crazy enough to put straight six in transverse configuration
It's only Audi left now in 2018. Ford Ranger had a 5-cyl 3.2 liter diesel.
I have a S60 t5 with 300+hp and 420+ nm, sadly volvo doesn't make the 5 cylinder engines anymore, all volvos now have a 2L 4cyl. They do however get impressive numbers from those small beasts
Scottys got this one wrong uhhhhohhhhh the first mass produced 5 cylinder car made was in 1974 it was the Audi 5000 and 100 the 300D was after this 76 i believe was the first
Audi went on to make the 5 cylinder Engine the most powerful engine in a car ever made and in 1984 The Audi Quattro S1 and S2 Group B that could handle and produce 800hp+ the 5 cylinder was like no other car power reliable and made a sound that would give a nun a wet dream
I knew Group B rally cars were banned for being too fast/dangerous/death machines. I didn't realize they were making 800hp!!!!! That's unreal!!!
Your talking Race cars, Race gas, tuned to the Edge of Blowing up. Not Street. I doubt your 5 cylinder Audi could beat a Hemi Cuda in the Day. Keep Dreaming...😣
lol could handle 800+ hp nothing else on the car would have been able to lol
@@crimpcreep6887 go google 242mph audi and on quattroworld you will see a video of an audi s4 go 242mph on the salt flats. I have that car.
for next Thursday: what is better, timing chain or timing belt? Pros and cons of each, old timing chains versus newer timing chains
What about gear driven cams?
@@blogtodeath4736 correct. Out of belt vs chain... Gear is the best!
i had an old ford F-150 it had the 300 straight 6 in it and it had gears instead of a belt or chain in it.
Pushrods.
. still needs one or the other
I drive a 5 cyl. Volvo, no strange vibrations , my v8s shake more, and 4 cyl. Engine rattle apart. Ive always loved the magic 5. Very torqy, and definatly durable gotta love 300 lb of torque from a 2.5