step 1. make a bind saying sorry for the random crit. step 2. hire a medic to use the kritskreege on you step 3. wait til he has full uber step 4. have him krits you step 5. have the medic die then kill the heavy with a random crit step 6. do the bind. step 7. laugh at everyone who thought you were going to kill heavy with medikrits
@Ryerye Keeley no the alt fire diables sentries for a short amount of time so it can let a spy get in and out if they loose a disguise or prevent a wrangle
Same, and it really is, isn't it? That and the infinite ammo. And the ability to shut down a sentry for four seconds, which is hilarious especially when the enemy engi is using the Wrangler, because even then he can't use it and it often encourages them to bring down the shield and repair/do other things. It's just such a fun and varied weapon, even though the tradeoff of having barely any damage against buildings is pretty devastating in many situations.
Mains of youtube: Scout: Lazy, you can watch his vid, cant think of any famous scout MAINS Soldier: this boi and Soundsmith Pyro: cant think of any Demo: AceTheOcarinaMaker Heavy: Big Joey or Bearded Expense Engineer Gaming: Uncle Dane Medic: Arrayseven Sniper: There are a lot of them, none famous that I know Spy: Stabby, Hamajineo, MrPalidin. And when in doubt, just watch lazypurple on anything besides medic.
Plus more mobility with the gunboats by taking almost no damage and the extra rocket jump. And you still have the ability to do damage unlike mister orange here.
Black Box Pros: 1: 20 HP on hit 2:Ability to be a bigger threat that should make the enemy team focus you first for being an annoyance 3: it's just fun Cons: 1: Not every hit gives 20 just depends on how good you are at shooting 2: get completely over shadowed as a coward for using a weapon that can make you a team player (especially if you use any conch) 3: one less clip = salty player taunt bind It's good gun yes
@@usernametaken017 Definition of a crutch is a weapon that's bad as a good player but makes things easier for bad players, often causing the formation of bad habits. The Black Box's upside gives more health the more accurate you are and its downside doesn't come into play much if your can hit all your shots and don't overextend. Aside from the fact that it literally rewards you for playing better, the thing's viable in comp. But no, if it frustrates you then it's obviously a huge crutch.
Man this is good, like lazy purple level good, and you've only been around for 4 years, you'll, be one if the big tf2 youtubers in no time, I would recommend more variety content because that's good to establish early on though, great video!
@@costaricaam nice... job? woohoo! you pointed out that nobody cared about what i said! the 6 people that liked my comment must agree! if you hate me why are you talking?
@@funkywasit cause i dont like peaple on videos that just because the youtuber didnt point out their weapon they make a dumb comment showing how special you are to the world! Nobody cares dude
@@costaricaam i never said “oh im so special” or anything i was just saying that i liked something, sorry for sharing my opinion on the internet i’ll not do it again
I use black box a lot and for me most noticable things are Pros: Spam the choke point from safe distance and cotribute instead of retreating for healthpack. Shoting at your feet at meele range to hit enemies doesnt hurt that much. Cons: Only to rockects left after rocket jump so using it as an offense is often a no go.
0:20, meanwhile I use the cow mangler unless there’s a pesky sentry nest that no one else it helping deal with(and yes, i use the right clicks to disable to buildings, but it isn’t enough)
I love hitting 2 direct pipes only for the soldier to not die because he hit me with splash damage, then go on to kill me because he could take as many hits as a heavy.
Black box with the BB is unironically so good. You're just so damn tanky with that extra health, and don't get me started when you're using the banner lmao.
Health economy is one of those interesting things about soldier. Me personally I think when you compare a Black Box soldier with any secondary other than Gunboats and a stock Rocket soldier with Gunboats it can pretty similar. The big difference being is in one case you're sacrificing your own damage output and rocket jumping ability for survivability and team coordination tools and vice versa. Black Box lets soldier be a team player. Stock lets soldier be a roamer.
It's good fun, and especially great when your team collectively shares a single rock for brains. But beggars and liberty are just stupid fun don't @ me
It’s good to see another person out there making good quality TF2 content these days. With the big names leaving, doing variety content, or barely uploading it can feel kinda lonely.
ok WOW - this video was sooo well made! You probably get this a lot and it's also a really unoriginal and effortless thing to say but - you seriously deserve more subscribers and attention However bit of criticism for the video, i think comparing the black box and direct hit is odd since they are such different weapons - personally i would compare stock and the black box. However i can see why you would compare the direct hit and rocket launcher since they are both unlockables. In general though this was an awesome and super fun video to watch - keep up the good work!
I love the black box and here’s why: I use it so medics have one less irritation to heal and it’s design is cool and just feels so *Powerful* and it makes it so you can go full Lone wolf mode by using it and the conch.
The Soldier mains cant even use the conch without anybody thinking they're bad at the game or complaining too much to the point where it gets annoying they leave the game
I mean using one or the other on their own is fine. But I dunno, I feel kinda cheated when I get the jump on a soldier up close as a heavy and still die because he regains health too fast.
This guy deserves more subs. Im waiting on getting a new desk for my PC setup cause my current one is problematic. Cant wait to play TF2 after so many years so Ive been watching quite a bit of TF2 videos!
i bloody love the beggars bazooka, its a pain to use at times, especially if you forget you can change to shotgun mid fight, but i get my highest soldier scores with it since thats what i have mostly used for soldier for a few years now side note, if you join a server with rtd ever, and roll unlimited ammo with it, if you fire 1 shot it basically turns into a rocket minigun with no off switch until the roll ends
The issue with the Black Box is that you usually have to use the shotgun with it as a finisher due to the crippling clip size downside, therefor you're usually not using the Gunboats. That means you're taking 40-60 damage from rocket jumps instead of 15-25, and losing a lot of HP in the process, negating the upside of health regen anyway, while you also have 1 less rocket, which makes successful bombs on groups significantly harder. And for a second lets view the weapon in a more competitive setting: if The Roamer is running BB, he'll be able to bomb far less effectively due to the clip size negation, and can't realistically swap off from Gunboats to Shotgun for a finisher due to his role. The Pocket can more easily justify swapping to the shotgun (not as common as it used to be but still viable) to compensate for the lost rocket, but as he's playing more close to the team regardless, he'll likely be decently overhealed anyway, making the upside near useless for a large downside. The Black Box is fun but other than the Rocket Jumper (which is imo more fun), the worst sidegrade.
Today I found a soldier main on youtube fitting all my criteria for a youtuber I have been looking for. Now I can finally have a youtuber that fits my playstyle more than market garden soundsmith
The black box is probably my second most used rocket launcher. I remember seeing a Jerma TF2 gameplay commentary video using the Black Box with a banner, which really plays into my usual style of soldier. A team-style banner soldier.
the missing rocket is honestly such a big deal, especially considering 4 rockets to begin with already feels restrictive. in competitive, if you want to jump off the ground and then off a wall to bomb the med, you'll have to reload one just to have enough rockets to kill the medic. plus the healing benefit isn't extremely useful when you already have a medic. but in pubs where you probably don't have a medic and none of that really matters at all HELL YEAH WHY NOT amazing quality video
i love the lazy purple inspired animated segments bro, great fuckin job, feels just like his vids (in a good way, not a "unoriginal asshole!!1!" way although now it sounds like a back-handed compliment) but seriously, great fucking job bro i love this, earned a new sub lad
I think you could've presented the pros and cons a bit more concisely. I would say the pros are the black box is more flexible to use with a combo. It synergizes nice with buff banner, which makes up for its smaller clip with increased damage, you can potentially replenish more health if you use the battalion's backup, and also when you pop the resistance, you're technically getting more health on hit because the enemy needs to do more damage to take off that health than normal, conch gives another steady stream of health and can give as much as 50 health per hit with the banner popped, which increases proportionally if you fight more than 1 enemy, allowing you to take risky fights more often, and shotguns make up for the black box's missing rocket, and its bullet damage type give you an edge against pyros, demoknights, and medics with the vaccinator. The black box also partially makes up for the missing conch/backup health boost. It allows soldier to roam more freely than usual, with or without gunboats. The extra health really shines through, assuming you hit optimal splash damage and get 15 hp per hit, that's 45 hp extra for an entire clip. You can take fights, lose some health, and get it right back if you play your cards right. But then you REALLY glossed over the cons of this thing. 1 less rocket doesn't sound too painful at first, and your advice was to "play it more carefully", but then you either end up dying from the less damage output not killing enemies, or play too passively and run from fights, ending up not contributing as much to the team as you would with other rocket launchers. Basically what I'm trying to say here is, it's simply not possible to "play safely". There is no such thing. You're going to lose out if you wanna gain something else. To reinforce my point, here is a list of enemies you can't kill with 3 rockets that you could with 4. Heavies Demoknights using the chargin' targe Engineers using the short circuit (it can delete 3 rockets before running out of ammo, the exact amount you have.) Spies with dead ringer Soldiers using black box/conch/black box + battalion's backup And that's assuming you have 100% *perfect* aim, which realistically no one can achieve. More often than not you'll be hitting around 68 damage splash damage mid-range shots, in which case you can't kill All soldiers Decent pyros who can reflect at least 1 rocket back Any demoknight with any shield Medics running away from you shooting blutsauger (believe me it happens quite often) Cloaked spies That, is a LONG list of extra people you can't kill in a clip. Now before you go and say "Oh just reload 1 rocket and finish them off" might I remind you that it takes 0.92 seconds for the first rocket to load, 1 whole second in TF2 can let every single weapon in the game fire 1 or 2 more shots at you. Which, considering you've already been fighting them to begin with, you are probably low as well if the enemy is any competent, which means that extra hit could very well kill you before you can kill them. The fact of the matter is, you shouldn't gloss over that missing rocket; it makes a world's difference. A more accurate description of this weapon would be "You trade losing more 1v1 fights for a free-er playstyle not tethered to health packs, and more flexibility in choosing your secondary." I'm not saying it's bad, not at all. What I'm trying to say that it is a sidegrade through and through, and you should acknowledge its shortcomings a bit more.
Just a fact i found on the internet, the rocket launched that black box was inspired by is the only rocket launcher that can hold up to 4 rockets at a time irl (lmao)
Yes, I'm a soldier main, and yes I use the cow mangler. I know it's stock with endless ammo, and a charge shot, and a futuristic coat of paint. But it looks SO, DAMN, COOL! Using your videos metaphore, It's like getting that stock tea, but with added honey, and a larger cup.
I was surprised to see you had so few subscribers after such a good video, but hopefully since TH-cam recommend this his to me, it’ll do it to many others too
The black box is a pretty underwhelming weapon in my opinion. 20 health just isn't enough to justify taking a rocket away, when it comes to rocket jumping more than 3 rockets is much prefered if you want to be able to fight by the time you get where you are going. shotguns to help the black box to a degree but I find much more use out of other secondaries such as support banners or the gunboats. if they where ever to change the black box they could give it a small damage penalty but not enough to break damage thresholds on light classes or medics instead of taking away a rocket like the liberty launcher.
It’s so rare to see a soldier main who couldn’t use the Direct Hit well, every soldier main I’ve met loves to tell me how good they are using the direct hit.
I really love using the Black Box with the Battalion's Backup! It's one of the only weapon sets that actually work well together. The Battalion's increases your max health and the banner turns you into an explosive tank, and the Black Box can heal back the health you lost! Overall the Tank Buster set is stupid good, you have no idea how much I was able to carry my team with this set combined with the Disciplinary Action... and the Granadier's Softcap goes really good with my Soldier's Stack and Antarctic Parka
I main the Liberty Launcher and had gotten used to the 3 clip size that I keep forgetting they got rid of that -25%. I have to keep reminding myself that I have an extra rocket when playing soldier.
Hey man you probably wont see this but I'd just say that I really REALLY like your channel, I enjoy your vids not just the well editing and your professional script but also just your voice, youre very chill and easy to listen too. Nor you're obnoxious to watch. I really enjoy your videos infact you're probs one of my go to for my tf2 tuber fix soo please keep making content I'd love to see more of your videos and your cuban bristle criss solly lol. Anyways love from me to ya!
Thanks a bunch for the nice compliments! It definitely makes me happy that people are really enjoying my content! I wanna give the TF2 fans another channel to watch since most of the big ones just kinda started to disappear. And seeing these amazing comments saying that I'm gonna be the next LazyPurple or Muselk really makes me happy! Thanks for the nice comment, hope you stick around for more! :)
i dont use black box that often but i found it pairs really well with the Buff banner. Buff banner has absolutely no health advantages but it makes up for it with it's combat advantages, while the black box does the exact opposite so they end up pairing really well by making up for it's downsides respectively
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yes, this video was LazyPurple inspired because he's awesome! :P
Why not call him AwesomePurple?
Just sayin'
@@justafrigginnewbie9948 i have friend called awesomegoat.
You wanna hear something? He is an awesome goat! You would never expect that
WY IS LAZY SO POPULAR WY IS SOUND SMIT AS MENTION OR maby he is just an alter ego of purple
Why aren't u popular?
That looks great
I’m sad that 2.9k ppl viewed this but didn’t like :(
“Come up with a plan”
*Hits heavy with a random crit*
Lol
The plan:
Step 1.
Be lucky
Be polite, be efficient, have a plan too kill everyone you meet.
the plan: *RNG*
step 1. make a bind saying sorry for the random crit.
step 2. hire a medic to use the kritskreege on you
step 3. wait til he has full uber
step 4. have him krits you
step 5. have the medic die then kill the heavy with a random crit
step 6. do the bind.
step 7. laugh at everyone who thought you were going to kill heavy with medikrits
As a pyro main, airblasted black box rockets also give me health.
Yes, black box is a life saver sometimes
Thank you god for that weapon
I’m a cowmangler main, the super charge is addictive
Not straight a main but GOD I too love a good super charge
good for sentry pushes if you have a team or even a shotgun
I love the cow mangler
@Ryerye Keeley no the alt fire diables sentries for a short amount of time so it can let a spy get in and out if they loose a disguise or prevent a wrangle
Same, and it really is, isn't it? That and the infinite ammo. And the ability to shut down a sentry for four seconds, which is hilarious especially when the enemy engi is using the Wrangler, because even then he can't use it and it often encourages them to bring down the shield and repair/do other things. It's just such a fun and varied weapon, even though the tradeoff of having barely any damage against buildings is pretty devastating in many situations.
Informative and fun to watch. I have a feeling we're gonna have a rise of Black Boxes in the game.
Ugh god pls no. Direct hit would hear more normal but pls no new metas.
Atleast not for primary soldier weapons
Yup
We already are. Oof
Oh boy another soldier main to add to the subscriber list
you're too nice! :D
Same here
I know right, lets be real this man makes good content
Mains of youtube:
Scout: Lazy, you can watch his vid, cant think of any famous scout MAINS
Soldier: this boi and Soundsmith
Pyro: cant think of any
Demo: AceTheOcarinaMaker
Heavy: Big Joey or Bearded Expense
Engineer Gaming: Uncle Dane
Medic: Arrayseven
Sniper: There are a lot of them, none famous that I know
Spy: Stabby, Hamajineo, MrPalidin.
And when in doubt, just watch lazypurple on anything besides medic.
@@phoenicianIII I don't understand what's funny about engineer gaming like what should be funny about it?
The Black Box is amazing, but lordy do I love the liberty launcher, you may have health but I have an extra rocket kek
And the damage penalty
@@chandranair9448 faster shots, less reloading and less self damage? Optimal or not I'm with it all the way
Lol u have less damage tho
-25% damage, + 25% clip size. Kinda balances out as long as you can hit your shots.
Plus more mobility with the gunboats by taking almost no damage and the extra rocket jump. And you still have the ability to do damage unlike mister orange here.
Black Box
Pros:
1: 20 HP on hit
2:Ability to be a bigger threat that should make the enemy team focus you first for being an annoyance
3: it's just fun
Cons:
1: Not every hit gives 20 just depends on how good you are at shooting
2: get completely over shadowed as a coward for using a weapon that can make you a team player (especially if you use any conch)
3: one less clip = salty player taunt bind
It's good gun yes
Yeah, I think most Black Box Conch Soldiers get called out for being turtling roamers rather than actually supporting their team.
Con 4: it as bug if a crutch as the oc liberty launcher
@@usernametaken017 Definition of a crutch is a weapon that's bad as a good player but makes things easier for bad players, often causing the formation of bad habits. The Black Box's upside gives more health the more accurate you are and its downside doesn't come into play much if your can hit all your shots and don't overextend. Aside from the fact that it literally rewards you for playing better, the thing's viable in comp.
But no, if it frustrates you then it's obviously a huge crutch.
Fran: Talks about how everyone uses either Stock, Direct Hit, or The Original
Me: Plays Trolldier
*Just for the first time, just about half past ten. For the first time, in history, is gonna start raining man*
@@ultra6189 I should've known
Same
Actually, I find it fun to use the Gunboats with the Liberty Launcher to be a trolldier who can still do damage with the rockets.
@@ultra6189 halleluyeha
ahhh and Soldier’s gift to God was Rick May.....
Very true, I still miss him but I'm happy he's at a better place now😞
@@RocketManFran An utter unit, & a true friend.
Its now dominating angles in the paradise :'(
3:06 I thought he was gonna say "if it doesn't work, your money back!"
Lol that part where Lazy was like "how it feeeeeels"
And Frans just like 👁️👄👁️
It don't matter how good you are its just how it feeeeeeeeeeeels
Man this is good, like lazy purple level good, and you've only been around for 4 years, you'll, be one if the big tf2 youtubers in no time, I would recommend more variety content because that's good to establish early on though, great video!
@H I know its great
Mikey Lawrence yes it is great
everyone: **uses black box, direct hit, stock or liberty launcher**
me: beggars bazooka is where it’s at!
Shut up hipster nobody really cares bruh
@@costaricaam nice... job? woohoo! you pointed out that nobody cared about what i said!
the 6 people that liked my comment must agree!
if you hate me why are you talking?
@@funkywasit cause i dont like peaple on videos that just because the youtuber didnt point out their weapon they make a dumb comment showing how special you are to the world! Nobody cares dude
@@costaricaam peaple
@@costaricaam i never said “oh im so special” or anything i was just saying that i liked something, sorry for sharing my opinion on the internet i’ll not do it again
Mother of mercy I can’t even play sniper when these black box solly jumping around
I use black box a lot and for me most noticable things are
Pros:
Spam the choke point from safe distance and cotribute instead of retreating for healthpack.
Shoting at your feet at meele range to hit enemies doesnt hurt that much.
Cons:
Only to rockects left after rocket jump so using it as an offense is often a no go.
0:20, meanwhile I use the cow mangler unless there’s a pesky sentry nest that no one else it helping deal with(and yes, i use the right clicks to disable to buildings, but it isn’t enough)
I love hitting 2 direct pipes only for the soldier to not die because he hit me with splash damage, then go on to kill me because he could take as many hits as a heavy.
Black box with the BB is unironically so good. You're just so damn tanky with that extra health, and don't get me started when you're using the banner lmao.
The Black Box conch combo is Op af,i'd say it's a crutch
Health economy is one of those interesting things about soldier. Me personally I think when you compare a Black Box soldier with any secondary other than Gunboats and a stock Rocket soldier with Gunboats it can pretty similar. The big difference being is in one case you're sacrificing your own damage output and rocket jumping ability for survivability and team coordination tools and vice versa. Black Box lets soldier be a team player. Stock lets soldier be a roamer.
Really enjoyed the video, good job on the sfm animation!
Source MilmFaker
@@dantesilva6894 haha that's so funny you like mocked someone for misspelling smth #LeTrolle #Gamer #OkButIcoolerTho
congratulations you edited the comment and lost the heart
@@dantesilva6894 doesn't really matter, there are more important things in life
here the "I am the pocket medic" loadout:
-Blackbox
-Conch
-Half Zatoichi
It's good fun, and especially great when your team collectively shares a single rock for brains.
But beggars and liberty are just stupid fun don't @ me
@
@@TheDrunkMenace how dare you
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I love the beggars, cause i just get to turn off my brain, hold W, and hope it all works out
@@ambassadorgaming8411 a tip with the beggars: stiff glue and you'll be better in no time
so this is where the conch black box tryhards without medics hiding in corners came from
sorry but its a sounsmith rrefrence
he calls conch with black box the 'my medic grilfriends not online and i cant survive without a medibeam up my butt' loadout
It’s good to see another person out there making good quality TF2 content these days.
With the big names leaving, doing variety content, or barely uploading it can feel kinda lonely.
Keep up the quality content man, you deserve more subs
thanks! :)
ok WOW - this video was sooo well made! You probably get this a lot and it's also a really unoriginal and effortless thing to say but - you seriously deserve more subscribers and attention
However bit of criticism for the video, i think comparing the black box and direct hit is odd since they are such different weapons - personally i would compare stock and the black box. However i can see why you would compare the direct hit and rocket launcher since they are both unlockables. In general though this was an awesome and super fun video to watch - keep up the good work!
thanks for the feedback and nice words! :)
Good job, Camarade! Hope that you will get more subs! You are Underrated if i may say
This man is super underrated,
The editing in this Is INSANE!
You’ve got a sub
I love the black box and here’s why: I use it so medics have one less irritation to heal and it’s design is cool and just feels so *Powerful* and it makes it so you can go full Lone wolf mode by using it and the conch.
conch box IS pretty good..
I actually think the Black Box has the best design of all the Rocket Launchers
@@theguywithadifferentopinio9060 agreed
conch box is good, but extremely annoying and literally everyone thinks is extremly overpowered so PLEASE don't use it. It just ruins everyone's day
TnT Productions dude i only use it so I don’t need a medic
So glad I found this channel again. This very video was the one that introduced me to you back when I started playing TF2.
Love this style of sfm/commentary, hope this marks the start of a lazypurple inspired trend
4:40 IS THAT ACE OCARINA
The Soldier mains cant even use the conch without anybody thinking they're bad at the game or complaining too much to the point where it gets annoying they leave the game
I *love the conch* but it's annoying to fight with the black box.
I mean using one or the other on their own is fine. But I dunno, I feel kinda cheated when I get the jump on a soldier up close as a heavy and still die because he regains health too fast.
Ryan Bennett How the heck do they survive being flanked by a Heavy?
Conch is too amazing of a weapon not because of its effects or shorter requirement for rage, but because of the loadouts it can be used in.
I felt that
Hm yes, they should add a melee for soldier which is a literal crutch. It’ll go great with this figurative crutch!
The next video lets talk about the direct hit
I love the video, great job for real! I don't like the black box personally but I see its strengths
I jammed out to your outro, I Haven't heard Team chaotix as an outro but it fits!
This guy deserves more subs. Im waiting on getting a new desk for my PC setup cause my current one is problematic. Cant wait to play TF2 after so many years so Ive been watching quite a bit of TF2 videos!
I have a distinct love for this boom box, favourite loadout is BB with panic attack or buff banner
I love how he Replies / ❤️ every comment, such a Humble Guy
i bloody love the beggars bazooka, its a pain to use at times, especially if you forget you can change to shotgun mid fight, but i get my highest soldier scores with it since thats what i have mostly used for soldier for a few years now
side note, if you join a server with rtd ever, and roll unlimited ammo with it, if you fire 1 shot it basically turns into a rocket minigun with no off switch until the roll ends
I’m glad someone was public about the power of the black box. I love it. It’s more fun to use than stock.
Good to see a video cover the Black Box as it is and not a rant about how it's a crutch.
The issue with the Black Box is that you usually have to use the shotgun with it as a finisher due to the crippling clip size downside, therefor you're usually not using the Gunboats. That means you're taking 40-60 damage from rocket jumps instead of 15-25, and losing a lot of HP in the process, negating the upside of health regen anyway, while you also have 1 less rocket, which makes successful bombs on groups significantly harder. And for a second lets view the weapon in a more competitive setting: if The Roamer is running BB, he'll be able to bomb far less effectively due to the clip size negation, and can't realistically swap off from Gunboats to Shotgun for a finisher due to his role. The Pocket can more easily justify swapping to the shotgun (not as common as it used to be but still viable) to compensate for the lost rocket, but as he's playing more close to the team regardless, he'll likely be decently overhealed anyway, making the upside near useless for a large downside. The Black Box is fun but other than the Rocket Jumper (which is imo more fun), the worst sidegrade.
at least you didnt mention the battalions backup or the Conchorer and the black box combo! wait...
This guy has such a nice wholesome way of looking at things, you've gained a new sub my friend.
This dude is so underrated,u earned a new sub m8
Agreed
This was amazing
Such an underrated channel
Keep up the good work
"The bad box" -soundsmith
Today I found a soldier main on youtube
fitting all my criteria for a youtuber I have been looking for.
Now I can finally have a youtuber that fits my playstyle more than market garden soundsmith
Hopefully the videos make you happy:)
The black box is probably my second most used rocket launcher. I remember seeing a Jerma TF2 gameplay commentary video using the Black Box with a banner, which really plays into my usual style of soldier. A team-style banner soldier.
16k subs, underrated, I knew the first time I saw your escape plan video was similar to lazy purple's style of videos and I loved it, keep it up.
4:17 soooo relatable.
dude you should just do sequels to all of his vids lol :p this is dope content!
the missing rocket is honestly such a big deal, especially considering 4 rockets to begin with already feels restrictive. in competitive, if you want to jump off the ground and then off a wall to bomb the med, you'll have to reload one just to have enough rockets to kill the medic. plus the healing benefit isn't extremely useful when you already have a medic. but in pubs where you probably don't have a medic and none of that really matters at all HELL YEAH WHY NOT
amazing quality video
i love the lazy purple inspired animated segments bro, great fuckin job, feels just like his vids (in a good way, not a "unoriginal asshole!!1!" way although now it sounds like a back-handed compliment) but seriously, great fucking job bro i love this, earned a new sub lad
I think you could've presented the pros and cons a bit more concisely.
I would say the pros are the black box is more flexible to use with a combo. It synergizes nice with buff banner, which makes up for its smaller clip with increased damage, you can potentially replenish more health if you use the battalion's backup, and also when you pop the resistance, you're technically getting more health on hit because the enemy needs to do more damage to take off that health than normal, conch gives another steady stream of health and can give as much as 50 health per hit with the banner popped, which increases proportionally if you fight more than 1 enemy, allowing you to take risky fights more often, and shotguns make up for the black box's missing rocket, and its bullet damage type give you an edge against pyros, demoknights, and medics with the vaccinator. The black box also partially makes up for the missing conch/backup health boost.
It allows soldier to roam more freely than usual, with or without gunboats. The extra health really shines through, assuming you hit optimal splash damage and get 15 hp per hit, that's 45 hp extra for an entire clip. You can take fights, lose some health, and get it right back if you play your cards right.
But then you REALLY glossed over the cons of this thing. 1 less rocket doesn't sound too painful at first, and your advice was to "play it more carefully", but then you either end up dying from the less damage output not killing enemies, or play too passively and run from fights, ending up not contributing as much to the team as you would with other rocket launchers. Basically what I'm trying to say here is, it's simply not possible to "play safely". There is no such thing. You're going to lose out if you wanna gain something else.
To reinforce my point, here is a list of enemies you can't kill with 3 rockets that you could with 4.
Heavies
Demoknights using the chargin' targe
Engineers using the short circuit (it can delete 3 rockets before running out of ammo, the exact amount you have.)
Spies with dead ringer
Soldiers using black box/conch/black box + battalion's backup
And that's assuming you have 100% *perfect* aim, which realistically no one can achieve. More often than not you'll be hitting around 68 damage splash damage mid-range shots, in which case you can't kill
All soldiers
Decent pyros who can reflect at least 1 rocket back
Any demoknight with any shield
Medics running away from you shooting blutsauger (believe me it happens quite often)
Cloaked spies
That, is a LONG list of extra people you can't kill in a clip. Now before you go and say "Oh just reload 1 rocket and finish them off" might I remind you that it takes 0.92 seconds for the first rocket to load, 1 whole second in TF2 can let every single weapon in the game fire 1 or 2 more shots at you. Which, considering you've already been fighting them to begin with, you are probably low as well if the enemy is any competent, which means that extra hit could very well kill you before you can kill them.
The fact of the matter is, you shouldn't gloss over that missing rocket; it makes a world's difference. A more accurate description of this weapon would be "You trade losing more 1v1 fights for a free-er playstyle not tethered to health packs, and more flexibility in choosing your secondary."
I'm not saying it's bad, not at all. What I'm trying to say that it is a sidegrade through and through, and you should acknowledge its shortcomings a bit more.
You know I really like those little sfm bits in between, theyre really cool! I hope you get to do more with them in the future, lad
Another Fran video means another good day
really well made video, keep it up man, cant wait to see how this channel does in the future
Good quality especially since you a rather small you tuber keep up the good work
Dude i know you get this alot but your channel is so underrated and your videos are so good! Keep up the good work!
Damn, this is quality. Sub well earned.
holy shit I just discovered your channel now and am really happy that It got recommended to me. good content keep it up!
One of the things that I like of the ◼️📦 is the fire sound is so satisfying and makes me feel that this weapon is overpowered is a good way.
The cigar not moving in the sfm keeps me up at night
I like the direct hit because it feels GREAT to hit scouts flanking
Just a fact i found on the internet, the rocket launched that black box was inspired by is the only rocket launcher that can hold up to 4 rockets at a time irl (lmao)
Fran: Black Box is good
Soundsmith: Bad Box
I don't know what to do
I run the Black Box so often that when I use any other launcher I subconsciously handicap myself by forgetting I have another rocket left
I love that sweet taste in the tea metaforicly and physicly
Just got my first aussie, it was the black box. Thank you for the tips in this video man
Black Box with Concheror is like having a medic... In your pocket.
Yes, I'm a soldier main, and yes I use the cow mangler. I know it's stock with endless ammo, and a charge shot, and a futuristic coat of paint. But it looks SO, DAMN, COOL!
Using your videos metaphore, It's like getting that stock tea, but with added honey, and a larger cup.
Thanks for showing me the ways of the blackbox!
I was surprised to see you had so few subscribers after such a good video, but hopefully since TH-cam recommend this his to me, it’ll do it to many others too
I'm surprised how well the sfm fit in. I know this was Inspired by lazy purple but damn was this good.
Never gonna give stock up, never gonna let the med down
The black box is a pretty underwhelming weapon in my opinion. 20 health just isn't enough to justify taking a rocket away, when it comes to rocket jumping more than 3 rockets is much prefered if you want to be able to fight by the time you get where you are going. shotguns to help the black box to a degree but I find much more use out of other secondaries such as support banners or the gunboats. if they where ever to change the black box they could give it a small damage penalty but not enough to break damage thresholds on light classes or medics instead of taking away a rocket like the liberty launcher.
U are really entertaining for such a small channel subscribed
It’s so rare to see a soldier main who couldn’t use the Direct Hit well, every soldier main I’ve met loves to tell me how good they are using the direct hit.
I really love using the Black Box with the Battalion's Backup! It's one of the only weapon sets that actually work well together. The Battalion's increases your max health and the banner turns you into an explosive tank, and the Black Box can heal back the health you lost! Overall the Tank Buster set is stupid good, you have no idea how much I was able to carry my team with this set combined with the Disciplinary Action... and the Granadier's Softcap goes really good with my Soldier's Stack and Antarctic Parka
Black Box, regenerates your health with blackness powers
I main the Liberty Launcher and had gotten used to the 3 clip size that I keep forgetting they got rid of that -25%. I have to keep reminding myself that I have an extra rocket when playing soldier.
The best part about the black box is when in tf2x10 you find a sentry and it shoots at you long enough for you to turn into an immortal god
U need more recognition man u are so underrated and this channel is a goldmine in my opinion
Great animations, really entertaining to watch
The Black Box is INSANE in MVM. When you upgrade the clip size, rate of fire, and reload speed, you are a one-man army.
Main Pyro sees Black Box Soldier:
"Free health"
your fbı agent after seeing you use black box instead of white box:wait thats illegal
Hey man you probably wont see this but I'd just say that I really REALLY like your channel, I enjoy your vids not just the well editing and your professional script but also just your voice, youre very chill and easy to listen too. Nor you're obnoxious to watch. I really enjoy your videos infact you're probs one of my go to for my tf2 tuber fix soo please keep making content I'd love to see more of your videos and your cuban bristle criss solly lol. Anyways love from me to ya!
Thanks a bunch for the nice compliments! It definitely makes me happy that people are really enjoying my content! I wanna give the TF2 fans another channel to watch since most of the big ones just kinda started to disappear. And seeing these amazing comments saying that I'm gonna be the next LazyPurple or Muselk really makes me happy! Thanks for the nice comment, hope you stick around for more! :)
I personally love the Airstike and stock, because barraging hellfire upon my enemies is just so satisfying and you can't go wrong with stock
good shet, those short animations make the video so cool
U mean Bad Box, the crutch used by bad soliders.
Pairing with conch, can also give you a passive to be trash talked by your enemies and get called out “using a crutch”
Intro is nuts!!!
Random crit
Drinking tea doesn’t make you a better black box soldier but being a black box soldier makes you better at drinking tea.
Wow 3K subs?? this video is really good and honestly you can be the next lazy purple.
and im not even joking this video is REALLY REALLY good.
Thank u! I highly doubt I'll be the next LazyPurple, but I really appreciate that nice compliments! :)
i dont use black box that often but i found it pairs really well with the Buff banner. Buff banner has absolutely no health advantages but it makes up for it with it's combat advantages, while the black box does the exact opposite so they end up pairing really well by making up for it's downsides respectively