Shostakovich: Symphony No. 5 / Sokhiev · Berliner Philharmoniker

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    Dmitri Shostakovich: 4th movt. from Symphony No. 5 / Tugan Sokhiev, conductor · Berliner Philharmoniker / Recorded at the Berlin Philharmonie, 13 December 2014
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  • @jbhopper2827
    @jbhopper2827 5 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    Interesting conducting technique, I call it the landing strip

  • @Altonahh10
    @Altonahh10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The way Sokhiev builds up tension with the insane tempo here and the fun the Philharmoniker have is simply breathtaking.

  • @AlexYoon
    @AlexYoon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    00:30 thats the dream. Playing a masterpiece smiling with the one of the best orchestras with the best friend, who also happens to be amazing.

    • @RazorSharpChannel
      @RazorSharpChannel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Saw him perform locally recently, he has that smile on wherever he goes xD

  • @Sharguni
    @Sharguni 8 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I love the gesture he gives Stefan Schulz. It's like the all-clear for bass carnage

  • @LisztyLiszt
    @LisztyLiszt ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The trombone and tuba at 00:37 are awesome.

    • @M2BN_JGH
      @M2BN_JGH 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stefan&Alex they're crazy XD

  • @grahambeyer1
    @grahambeyer1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I like this conducting technique. I think it really communicates to the musicians. His movements are really easy to understand and as result the orchestra feels secure and more free to enjoy the music and they certainly were! Awesome piece of music!

  • @berlinphil
    @berlinphil  8 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    +Torterra kart Yes, it is Wilfried Strehle. We are delighted to say that retired members of the orchestra usually remain in close touch and sometimes still perform in individual concert programmes.

    • @nachopanda4786
      @nachopanda4786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Berliner Philharmoniker my favorite movement of this symphony is the 2nd with that piccolo clarinet

  • @aaronzeraujpbass1070
    @aaronzeraujpbass1070 8 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Anyone else hear the little cry director at the 00:35 ? Wonderful concert , I love the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra

  • @mason11198
    @mason11198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    1:55 I'm always so impressed seeing DBs play blistering fast sections, idk why. Visually looks impressive, and probably is harder then the cello which they so often double

    • @milomarches
      @milomarches 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      As a double bassist, i can confirm that this is harder

    • @luke1835
      @luke1835 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hardest part is getting those strings to speak

  • @yeahchou3946
    @yeahchou3946 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    At 2:02 you can actually see the conductor play a violin.

  • @Jiwpgakis
    @Jiwpgakis 9 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    00:30 those viola players seem really happy :D

    • @gordonackerman4105
      @gordonackerman4105 8 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      +Jiwpgakis. Their $300,000 annual salary may have something to do with it. With the exception of a few soloists and conductors, Berlin Philharmonic musicians are the best-paid in the world. With good reason.

    • @tomallen4230
      @tomallen4230 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Gordon Ackerman are u sure it's 300,000?

    • @iteinflammateomnia
      @iteinflammateomnia 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      +Gordon Ackerman They do not at all make that much. They are anything but rich.

    • @iteinflammateomnia
      @iteinflammateomnia 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Gordon Ackerman Also, the members of the LA Philharmonic make the most.

    • @JonatasAdoM
      @JonatasAdoM 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Still B.P is the best in my humble ignorant opinion.

  • @giuseppegiordano2017
    @giuseppegiordano2017 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Trombon and tuba 00.38 perfect in all ... The best recorder , very very High level !!

    • @mauryq2150
      @mauryq2150 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course not, they are too soft

  • @brylancaldwell1556
    @brylancaldwell1556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1:55 lol
    Another thought, I love the tuba in this piece because it's literally the greatest instrument known to mankind

    • @flipscus4098
      @flipscus4098 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't even hear that shit

  • @austenmeyer382
    @austenmeyer382 7 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I thoroughly enjoyed the faster tempo on this piece. I've never actually heard it at this tempo and it seems to suit the piece well.

    • @hendrikf3670
      @hendrikf3670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hear Bernsteins Version thats way faster (too fast)

    • @e.heckscher1576
      @e.heckscher1576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Then look at Shotstakovich's tempo markings, which start at 88 to the quarter (!) with a specifically measured accelerando that I have only heard Leonard Slatkin actually conduct.

    • @davidtatro7457
      @davidtatro7457 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @E. Heckscher this is one of those movements where few conductors seem to pay little if any attention to what the composer actually wrote.

  • @LCdrDerrick
    @LCdrDerrick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That conducting style is hilariously satisfying to watch!

  • @bambino100011
    @bambino100011 9 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    More bass trombone please :)

  • @OrlandoAponte
    @OrlandoAponte 8 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    This is the gentlest sounding performance of this movement I've ever heard. It almost sounds more like Schubert's 5th Symphony

    • @tomallen4230
      @tomallen4230 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think that the gentleness is good

    • @OrlandoAponte
      @OrlandoAponte 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      +Tom Allen I couldn't disagree more but that's the good thing about all the different renditions/recordings in classical music - there's a recording for everybody

    • @JonatasAdoM
      @JonatasAdoM 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Orlando Aponte Exactly. You can pick your preferred.

  • @dankafurtw2581
    @dankafurtw2581 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love see people smiling in the audience, I love BPO so much!!

  • @theophilus5752
    @theophilus5752 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Stefan Schulz is my Bass Trombone role model, can't get enough of him!

    • @davidstein7397
      @davidstein7397 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He needs to be way louder. Personally I think the American bass trombonists are the best such as Charlie or Blair.

    • @PHFaria
      @PHFaria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@davidstein7397 urgh

    • @williamredpath861
      @williamredpath861 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PHFaria why urgh? Charlie Vernon has tremendous pedigree as a bass trombonist. He was taught by the iconic bass trombonist Edward Kleinhammer and probably the most famous tuba player in Arnold Jacobs. He's taken a lot of their qualities into his own playing. I'm no American but I can respect quality when I hear it.

    • @PHFaria
      @PHFaria 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@williamredpath861 urgh to someone who argue that louder is equivalent to better. Nothing against Blair or Vernon.

    • @williamredpath861
      @williamredpath861 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PHFaria was David not meaning louder in reference to this piece rather than saying louder is better in general? Just as you have your own preferences in how you prefer to hear something, is David not entitled to his with comments such as "urgh". His taste is his taste, doesn't make him wrong.

  • @sinicorso3060
    @sinicorso3060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A wonderful piece of music with a wonderful orchestra

  • @sinicorso3060
    @sinicorso3060 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful music, wonderful ONCT!

  • @matthewvwuk
    @matthewvwuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A great symphony indeed! Dmitri Shostakovich subtitled his Symphony no 5 'A Soviet's reply to just criticism' as an opera he wrote previously didn't go down at all well with the Soviet authorities & Joseph Stalin attended the premier & reportedly stormed out during the performance! The headlines the next day in the newspapers 'Chaos instead of music'!
    This particular symphony was written to get back into favour with the Soviet authorities & it worked & it was well received.
    I was hoping to hear the moment the tam-tam came in to relieve the tension in the final movement but there we are!

  • @horst1ish
    @horst1ish 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent music !

  • @warrenwilson4818
    @warrenwilson4818 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Enjoyable watching this conductor. Quite different.

  • @jekyllmd1
    @jekyllmd1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    La mejor versión de esta hermosa sinfonía!!!

  • @anonymousfrog1334
    @anonymousfrog1334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was the most fun piece I’ve played so far. The concert we were going to perform it for got canceled but we got a superior at the festival we were able to go to

  • @Trumpyfilip
    @Trumpyfilip 7 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    GABOR I LOVE YOU

  • @_rhen
    @_rhen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite orchestra in the world

  • @Brillemeister
    @Brillemeister 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Majesty densely concentrated on the staves. God bless

  • @gimletrose1985
    @gimletrose1985 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love how Amihai always smiling and having fun!

  • @robertwilliamson7765
    @robertwilliamson7765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the best works of thè 20th century.

  • @vitormusico5545
    @vitormusico5545 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A melhor Orquestra Filarmônica do Mundo.
    BERLIM.

  • @mashtali1
    @mashtali1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is fantastic speed

  • @davevansega1771
    @davevansega1771 ปีที่แล้ว

    They really set off at such a pace......

  • @ricklopez2314
    @ricklopez2314 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glorious.

  • @CarmenCruzLopez
    @CarmenCruzLopez 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brillante en música y orquesta.

  • @daveenyart
    @daveenyart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Holy moly...what a tempo!! Cool to see a conductor without a baton. It appears to me that Valery Gergiev and Tugan Sokhiev enjoyed the same conducting teacher.

    • @Queeen7q
      @Queeen7q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Northern Caucasian conducting school :))))) - Temirkanov, Gergiev, Sokhiev :)))))))))))))))))

    • @jacobtapianieto9655
      @jacobtapianieto9655 ปีที่แล้ว

      All of them pupils of the great Ilya Musin.

  • @a.h.sabafar7230
    @a.h.sabafar7230 ปีที่แล้ว

    LEGENDARY!

  • @drjoopj
    @drjoopj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    Why are musicians always grinning from ear to ear when playing Shostakovich?

    • @danmcglaun1
      @danmcglaun1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Cause he is KOOOOOOOL!

    • @friedrichbirke3500
      @friedrichbirke3500 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The one violist also grinned when the orchestra played brahms first symphony.

    • @youririnsema1148
      @youririnsema1148 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      it's incredibly difficult to play but when you finally get it right and perform it it is so much fun, I speak from experience

    • @RazorSharpChannel
      @RazorSharpChannel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@friedrichbirke3500 I saw that guy (0:33) perform some Schubert in my town recently, he has the grin on his face permanently I think xD

    • @claytondungey1914
      @claytondungey1914 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Jared Johnson
      In order to embrace he spirit of Soviet Russia:
      Be happy! ...... or else.

  • @miguelangelcontreraslinan9500
    @miguelangelcontreraslinan9500 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pronto llegare aquí

  • @user-nk5fw7qp9u
    @user-nk5fw7qp9u ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo

  • @brucekuehn4031
    @brucekuehn4031 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You may be interested in Dudamel with Berlin conducting the same 3 mins - published on Nov 17, 2018. Similar but different in detail.

  • @vicente1049
    @vicente1049 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Es una maravilla ❤

  • @michaelc9810
    @michaelc9810 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I love the theatrics of the conductor😂
    At 00:34 he looks at the brass and is like “Whatcha got? Who put you on the face of the earth?” (Sponge bob reference🤣) Then at 1:30 I’m pretty sure he’s playing fruit Ninja!!😂😂

  • @user-ub9xx5ve1d
    @user-ub9xx5ve1d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:00 horn!!!♡

  • @yazzminn3664
    @yazzminn3664 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Que felicidad ver a Amihai Grosz y Máté Szücs 3

  • @torterrakart7249
    @torterrakart7249 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    +Berliner Philarmoniker
    Is Wilfried Strehle playing here?
    I think I saw him at 2:12 but I thought he wasn't anymore in the orchestra

  • @sebastianguerrero8877
    @sebastianguerrero8877 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What´s the sound in 00:35 ??

  • @hendrikf3670
    @hendrikf3670 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfektes Tempo

  • @stroganoffbeef3713
    @stroganoffbeef3713 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    0:30辺りで目配せしてニヤってしてるww

    • @user-ji6ls2oj4y
      @user-ji6ls2oj4y 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      stroganoff beef こういうの好きw

  • @user-mo3jh6gi9h
    @user-mo3jh6gi9h 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @paytporik
    @paytporik 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shostakovich!!!

  • @zandergrier1302
    @zandergrier1302 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well, that's the first time I've seen the entire tromba section using 4 rotor horns. Interesting.

    • @m.2456
      @m.2456 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zander Grier tromba section? If you’re talking about horns, nearly every professional orchestra outside of Vienna use instruments with 4 valves. If you mean the trumpets, they all only have 3 valves. The pinky is used to raise levers covering small holes that correct the intonation and make certain notes easier to reach.

  • @rayanbenharzallah4552
    @rayanbenharzallah4552 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1: 28 wen you driving in winter 🤣

  • @the18wheeler67
    @the18wheeler67 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where are sarah wills and stefan dohr and the others on horn?

  • @totallycuterthanyou4
    @totallycuterthanyou4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What’s the side trumpet looking instrument called?

    • @bentleyboy67
      @bentleyboy67 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's just a trumpet but with rotary valves. They use them a lot on the continent

  • @vladimirlenin1802
    @vladimirlenin1802 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who plays Contrabasson?

  • @taskbarenhancer3386
    @taskbarenhancer3386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish Karajan recorded this sym.

  • @user-vn4yg4qq6h
    @user-vn4yg4qq6h 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    比较美😍

  • @Tubomiro
    @Tubomiro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:08 put in those earplugs Bassoons, because it’s gonna get pretty loud.

  • @capersbeach
    @capersbeach 6 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    anyone else hear the creepy murmer at 0:35 ?

  • @alexfwfwfw4830
    @alexfwfwfw4830 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    why does the conductor always change between videos?

  • @user-zo7jm5qd7n
    @user-zo7jm5qd7n 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    54 people who pushed low rating became Siberian sending.

  • @jonasrettig327
    @jonasrettig327 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    charlie sheen plays trombone?

  • @maltezeller9223
    @maltezeller9223 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always hear a little Mahler 1 in this one... strange

    • @andrewchoi1283
      @andrewchoi1283 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shostakovich did get a lot of inspiration from Mahler so that's probably why

    • @Elena_Soboleva93
      @Elena_Soboleva93 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mahler is Shostakovichi's favorite composer :)

  • @kumomo3
    @kumomo3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    さすがやん

  • @user-beartp910
    @user-beartp910 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:35 "slap"

  • @joaquinmiranda5662
    @joaquinmiranda5662 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:36 hmmmmmmmmm

  • @wyattmartinez3986
    @wyattmartinez3986 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would kill to be in this orchestra.....jk

  • @keanadair
    @keanadair 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:35 Jupiter anyone?

  • @eriknewland3686
    @eriknewland3686 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    OK WHICH OF THEM FLUTIES IS PLAYING WRONG NOTES AT THE BEGINNING?????

  • @arteitheotonio
    @arteitheotonio 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is this the best shostakovic sinfonie? A friend asked

  • @oats9755
    @oats9755 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:25

  • @wariopimpdaddy2291
    @wariopimpdaddy2291 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mother 3

    • @legendarygames1855
      @legendarygames1855 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Srsly? What has a Gba Game to do with this?

  • @bobbobby9321
    @bobbobby9321 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wait tubas make sound!?

  • @edwardrichard3772
    @edwardrichard3772 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In 36 seconds, I hear a ghost.

  • @user-yl4wv9uz3s
    @user-yl4wv9uz3s 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:01
    やる気スイッチ

  • @AlexandraPeguero-ty9jk
    @AlexandraPeguero-ty9jk 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Esto es tan bueno como comer bolas broma

  • @phillippark1213
    @phillippark1213 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Flutes and piccolos are so off pitch 1:59 :(

    • @andyyu9531
      @andyyu9531 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Phillip Park In my opinion, the sound out of tune would belong to the Eb clarinet.

    • @SeanPi314
      @SeanPi314 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andy Yu The sound of the Eb clarinet is much sharper. You can check out Richard Strauss's Till Eulenspiegel's Merry Pranks.

    • @natheniel
      @natheniel 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +SeanPi314 It sounds more like the Eb clarinet for me too.

    • @Cyclingdavp123
      @Cyclingdavp123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WTF!!!! This is the Berlin Phil!! Which orchestra is it you play for again??

    • @theophilus5752
      @theophilus5752 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +David Pritchard exactly what I was going to say

  • @liomatsu1931
    @liomatsu1931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I prefer Yutaka sado’s version more. This performance is lacking quite a lot of things...

    • @MrBPOfan
      @MrBPOfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. That is a really remarkable one, full of power and energy. Dado was on fire!

  • @bent8604
    @bent8604 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a very good recording, but personally I think Bernstein conducting this sounds the best.

  • @maanibeigy7986
    @maanibeigy7986 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mad Russian conductor, MAD 😆👏

  • @brunopraia7605
    @brunopraia7605 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tugan Sokhiev does not have enough quality to conduct such prestigious orchestra as the Berliner Philharmoniker.

  • @people_culture
    @people_culture 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    очень плохо

  • @ashtonlyons2139
    @ashtonlyons2139 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too fast

    • @allenlarson2708
      @allenlarson2708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, please look again at the score and try to understand Shostokovich's reason for the amazing tempo changes he so carefully wrote?

  • @clintonross3920
    @clintonross3920 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too damned fast for the power within.

  • @trump3c
    @trump3c 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A bit too quick for my taste.

    • @bambino100011
      @bambino100011 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you take the tempo slower, the piece drags. Tempo was just right.

    • @trump3c
      @trump3c 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should check out New York Philharmonic performances of this piece with Leonard Bernstein, I believe he had the right idea for tempo.

    • @bambino100011
      @bambino100011 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like very much the New York Phil version with Bernstein conducting, I just prefer the tempo faster :)

    • @kyletomlinson5365
      @kyletomlinson5365 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bernstein kinda misses the point of the piece in my opinion.

    • @bambino100011
      @bambino100011 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Huh? Explain your point about Bernstein? How does he miss?

  • @frozenfeet4534
    @frozenfeet4534 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's one weird-ass composing style, Sokhiev...

  • @maxcohen13
    @maxcohen13 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Too fast.

    • @kumomo3
      @kumomo3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel too.

  • @minjaejameskim8340
    @minjaejameskim8340 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Wow....worst conductor I haven't seen for a long time...

    • @OLzhehalov
      @OLzhehalov 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      No, I think he is better than Gergiev)

    • @jin12345678
      @jin12345678 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      +starwarsjunkie7777 sokhiev is actually one of my favorites. He's very precise and energetic, and always gets an enthusiastic performance out of the orchestra. His style is flamboyant but services the players - when he's conducting the music never sounds labored or harsh.

    • @Cyclingdavp123
      @Cyclingdavp123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really??????

    • @dankafurtw2581
      @dankafurtw2581 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      ey no!!

    • @JonatasAdoM
      @JonatasAdoM 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly, how can people even complain about Gergiev when you have conductors such as him.

  • @alexandremyrat
    @alexandremyrat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Encore un qui dirige le nez dans la partition.
    Trop de concerts sans doute pour accéder à cette liberté sans la quelle il n'y a pas de transcendence car collé dans la matière.
    La matière, le cas échéant est très séduisante. Chacun fait ce qu'il sait très bien faire. La reproduction de son image et le narcissisme qui va avec. Mais où est le risque artistique de la découverte de ce que l'on sait pas encore?
    Des films en pagaille, combien de fois du Cinéma.
    Des concerts comme une autoroute...
    Ect.

  • @severussnape6886
    @severussnape6886 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly, I hate this symphony most...

    • @severussnape6886
      @severussnape6886 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That symphony isn't his real style. I'd prefer something like his 4th or 8th.

  • @lyncunningham8255
    @lyncunningham8255 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fine performance. Too bad Russian music got cancelled and we’re not supposed to like it anymore.

  • @blueXtwoplustwo
    @blueXtwoplustwo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a good performance. Pass

  • @noirvalentin
    @noirvalentin 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shostakovich's symphonies are overrated....

    • @cys8964
      @cys8964 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +Valentin Chantereau Oh come on...

    • @iteinflammateomnia
      @iteinflammateomnia 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Bullshit.

    • @Cyclingdavp123
      @Cyclingdavp123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Joker!!!!!

    • @sneddypie
      @sneddypie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      bullcrap, beethoven symphonies are overrated, and barely anyone knows that shostakovich wrote more than 9 symphonies, and you say he's overrated?

  • @miguelangelcontreraslinan9500
    @miguelangelcontreraslinan9500 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pronto llegare aquí