Any Chance you can do a Noob Guide from a to z, how to setup a stream with OBS and Nvidia GPU & RX 5700 XT GPU? i think this would give you a huge amount of clicks :) and will help a lot of people who wants to start streaming but doesnt know anything about it :D Best Regards
@@Dcs987 I think this will run very good ;) Cause Nvenc performance looks great ! NVENC Quality should between X264 fast and medium ! Benchmarks in this video show awesome NVENC POWER ;) Only 3900x looks better,around 90 fps in X264 in Slow is very good ! Me use 3700X and RTX 2060 normal,i will test next month what happen then i use NVENC NEW ;)
Thank you for this video! I always like keeping myself up to date when it comes to tech and think about what I would upgrade next if I could. Recently, I really considered either a 5700 XT or a 2070 Super but with me wanting to stream, this certainly gave me more clarity towards my choice! It's kind of sad not to see comparable features in AMD's GPU (correct me if I'm wrong please) since it has a much greater value and I like to support the "underdog". But if you want to stream this is just made for you so it will quite probably be my choice! I was kind of rambling, sorry for that, but I just want to show my appreciation for content like this! Especially when it's this well done!
Ray Of course it dropps FPS, but way less than x264 since it runs on seperate hardware on the GPU. Your actual GPU wont be impacted much, if at all by it, it does still tax your CPU but way less than x264 since it does not have to do the software rendering. NVENC is also optimized for gamestreaming abd does better on lower bitrates. Fortnite is no different than any other game with it. If you have proof for your claims pls link it to me, alway happy to learn new things ^^
@Ray Mate just look in Steamlabs, for example, on the bottom left while streaming. CPU usage is displayed there, I usually have about 4-8% while streaming with NVENC :D Do you think streamig is nothing else besides Rendering the Visuals? Overlays like your Chat, Mixing the audio from Mic and ingame etc.
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It should be known that Apex, CSGO and OW are "CPU bound" games or games where performance is mainly geared towards how good your CPU is with GPU do little aside from rendering. Would have been a better test to include some games that rely a bit more heavily on the GPU.
Nvenc can handle 2560x1440 max in-game settings recording at a consistent 60fps in obs with 25mbps bitrate. Ever since upgrading to a 30-series card, Recording my games without having much noticeable impact on game performance has been a very nice experience.
Great video!! I have a Ryzen 7 3700x and RTX 2070 Super, I’m new to streaming and was wondering if I should use NVENC or 264? Also what should my bitrate be, I like steaming 720p at 60 FPS. Thank you so much 🙏🏽
I’m not sure if I’m getting this, but, does NVENC help just streaming? Or does it also help simply recording the gameplay, and putting less stress on the gpu, for example with a capture card?
Anyone using nvenc on 10 series cards, pascal architecture passes video encoding to system RAM and back to the GPU, this bottlenecks performance. RTX cards which use Turing Ampere architecture keep the encoding on the nvenc chip, no bottle neck. However when using the nvenc settings Psycho tuning and look-ahead the card then shares resources with 3D games, as these features use the cuda cores. So even on an RTX card, take a gpu hungry game which tries to use all of the available resources, currently Days gone is an example, you will see frames skipped due to encoding, forcing you to either cap the fps at 60 or reduce the graphic settings. Abeit there's not many games that run into this issue, it's still worthy of note.
Hi. I have a 5700xt. I shoulve just bought a 2070 super. Anyway, since I already have a 5700xt, can you suggest a workaround for to stream in a decent quality without lag or stutter? Should I just stream with CPU? If yes what cpu? Planning to stream apex and warzone. Hoping for your reply.
Thanks for the video and explanation. I do coding streams, and keen to get the best quality possible, what would be the best kit for a dedicated streaming pc? It seems like nvenc isn’t what I need for high quality, but can I still use the gpu, I thought the gpu was faster at encoding?
How does this compare to the encoder of Pascal though? Building a PC for my buddy and deciding whether I should get a 2060 for 300 or a 1070 for 200. He will be streaming in the future
so best settings to streamnig is 720p60fps? and what is better for streaming 3900X or RTX 2070? (build a new pc) i can stay with ryzen 1600af + rtx 2070super...or 3900X + gtx 10603gb
Hy Optimus Tech. Ive a RTX 2080 (overclocked) in my PC and cant really decide If I stream in 900p60FPS or 720p60FPS with nvenc(new) 5500 Kbps. My Cam is the C922, so 720p60FPS or 1080p30FPS is better for the cam? maybe you can give some interesting new stuff for my brain. CU next in your stream, If you not answer here ;)
You bring the things to the point, short and exactly the info that build on top of each other. You give one info out and the questions i got into my head after that (like 120fps streaming on cpu or nvenc) you instantly follow the path and answer them with your opinion and testing. Very nice, very serious and high quality...keep it up please. There are a lot of other TH-camrs that just make Information about these topics are mess with mixing too many things into one video. !subbed
If you have a PC with Ryzen 7 3700x and a 2060 card, which one would you prefer to stream? with the card or is the quality of the processor codec better? in that case, if my main use is to stream (without playing at the same time) it would be better to buy a ryzen 9 with a 1650 super, it is worth the same as the R7 with the 2060
@Optimum Tech What if you use the RTX card on a dedicated streaming rig? Would it have issues handling 1080p60 with 4k facecam and 1080p mouse and keyboard cam?
So i've only seen some things around forums but from what I heard you can achieve similar quality among all cards with the new NVEnc but how hard it will hit you on the GPU Side is different among the lower end cards. A simple remedy though just capping your Frames to something like 60FPS or 120FPS depending on whether you can hit those frames normally on your card.
I have Asus Rog Strix 2070 Super and Ryzen 9 3900x. Im using NVEC codec for streams at 1080p 60fps. Should I use x264 codec? Which confg. you recommend to me for live game streams?
Do AMD GPUs have a feature like NVENC? I used to stream on a R7 1700 and a RX 580 8GB and I didn't experience any issues. I am thinking of building a completely new build thanks to you for inspiring me on a ITX build but I might have to invest in a Nvidia card now instead of AMD.
They both have the same exact encoder built inside of them. All of the RTX cards do so a 2060 has the same NVENC as the 2080TI. If you care about higher frames or higher quality settings then obviously the 2070 Super is the way to go. Watch comparisons of frames between the two because the streaming is the same
I Have Ryzen 5 3600, Should i Pair It with RTX 2060 Super OR RX 5700 XT for Streaming ?? And is It Better to stream on Cpu OR GPU Nvenc? for Quality Or Less Frame Drop
PC specs mobo: gigabyte z390 aorus pro wifi cpu: i5 8400 gpu: Rtx 2060 Ram: gigabyte aorus 16gb 3200mhz Nzxt x62 Kraken v2 which should I upgrade? The cpu to i9 9900k or the Gpu? To play and stream at the same time with 120fps on the viewer's side with video quality like in game.
Search bottleneck calculator I would go for better gpu I think. Or CPU ive its bottleneck in streaming 6000 bite 1080p 60 on fn capped at 240 with i7 9700 and kfa2 with 16gb Imma upgrade later to 32gb and a 2070 super
I exactly think u can stream at good fps rn I've u have 6 core my CPU is pushed by 100% so i9 would also just be good with 2060 I've u only want to play 120 fps
I've actually got a need to encode 4 streams at once, max would be 4 x 1080p50. Are there any cards that could encode that many streams at once? Or would two cards be necessary? (don't worry about streaming software side of things, it's a new product I'm testing). This won't be for gaming, but rather for live video production. At a minimum we want to encode and stream 3 videos from the one PC, encoding using NVENC at 1080p25 each.
Twitch's technology is not designed for anything up to 60 fps as of right now. They're working on 4k60p and 8k60p, aka 4 and 8k resolution at 60 fps progressive scan. They may move to 240 to 360 fps later but that dependent on whether or not they will support x265 for partners and elite streams (aka, if you not a bad ass streamer, forget about it). As a note about x265, it does better with bandwidth at high density of data aka high resolutions, so 8k at 60 fps or faster would become a reality but you need special hardware to transcode this stream because it's hardware intensive and also when downloading and viewing, it's the same way. It's not quite as simple as x264 (or HW accelerated x264 aka NVENC).
ryzen 7 3700x + rtx 2070 super...so should i go nvenc all the way to stream, no matter what? i mean the cpu should be more than enough to stream 720p60fps with medium preset on games like fortnite etc, or not? maybe even 1080p60fps?
Hey, do you know if it's any good to use the new Nvenc with a GTX 1080ti or does it run worse than the old Nvenc or doesn't it matter which one to use with a GTX 1080ti?
you can't use the gtx 1080ti with the new NVENC chip because it doesn't have it. the new NVENC (on par with x264 medium compared to x264 ultrafast on older models) is a physical chip that comes with the rtx (turing and higher line) plus the gtx 1660ti and 1660 cards. so if you don't mind x264 ultrafast then by all means use it on the 1080ti otherwise you'll still want to use the cpu and a fast or medium preset.
what is the best streaming option for a setup like, 24gb ddr4 ram i5-9600kf and msi rtx 3050 8gb. when i game i use 1080p at 165hz and i normally cap for 70-100fps when streaming i have tested a few applications but there not great at all maybe elgato device is best?.
So in your professional opinion, I have a 9900k and a 2070 super. I stream at 720p 60fps with a kiyo pro webcam. I’m always getting “slow frames” when I’m streaming with NVENC. Would this be a case in which I should stream at x264?
I have an older system - i7-8700k (have not overclocked), gtx 1080, 16 gigs ram.. Some of my x264 streams for older games were decent, but the recent avengers streams was choppy as crazy.. I have been struggling to fix it. I have a 200 mbps (download/upload) internet line.. so not problems there.. Any help on ideal OBS settings will help.. I have currently put bitrate at 8800 kbps, quality is high, and b frames 2... Can I increase the bitrate further???
When you're talking about CPU encoding, is that a software encoder or is that using QuickSync on your Intel CPU? If software, where would QuickSync fall compared to software and RTX-series NVENC? Thanks!
I started streaming 4 months ago with a R5 2600 + RX 480 with X264 set to FASTER. Recently bought an RTX 2070 and decided to give NVENC a go. FPS is higher than before, though I've noticed that the stream quality is, somehow, worse for the viewer. Have in mind that I my bitrate is set to 2000 kbps(my internet connection is very limited). Any thoughts? Edit: forgot to mention that I have a webcam, some simple overlays and the stream resolution is set to 720p30
Wow. Ali doing great work yet again. Very happy with this,been playing around with it a little myself,and have been very happy with the results since the fix. edit,love the new intro,Ali it looks fantastic!
I have a bandwidth limit in 4000 kbps of my internet connection. What is the best nvenc settings in OBS for stream on i58400 Nvidia gtx1060 6gb in 1920x1080 60 fps (overwatch for example)? Please help. Thanks
If I run my 2060 super through my elgato hd60 pro instead of directly into my monitor, should i be using x264 instead? I expected adding a capture card to my setup to make my pc streams smoother, but i feel like its the opposite.
5:00 RE the dropped frames while encoding at 120FPS, have you tried running the latest versions of Windows + running OBS as Admin? According to the testing I've seen, that nearly almost eliminates any drops
The reason you are not able to run 120fps with good stability is because OBS doesn’t officially support 120fps recording. Other than that, great NVENC video!
What encoder does the 5700 XT use? I know it isnt as good as NVENC but could you try show it vs NVENC on Turing and x264 from the CPU? Would be real cool thanks!
I'm surprised nothing was published saying this was worked on. That leads me to believe it was probably a bug or something on the Microsoft side rather than nvidia. Either way, great video! SUPER informative 😜
I have a pc with the following specs: i9 9900K and a RTX 2070 card. But if i want to stream it is really lagging. Even on 720p can somebody help me i am bagging you
Hi! I have a RX570 4g, i want to buy a r2700, will it be enough for streaming in good quality for youtube? For 1080 60fps? Or better to buy 1080ti or 2070s for streaming? Like for the video
hi, i was wondering if you are planning to do a video about game streaming to twitch while also streaming to discord, you know the "subsecond delayed" one
x264 obviously, 1080ti isn't strong enough to handle encoding long term. 3900x cpu is a beast. Even with streaming, gaming, video capture you won't be able to utilise all its cores.
I have a i9-9900k and a rtx 2070 super and ive been curious if using my cpu while recording/streaming would be a better option than streaming with my rtx card while playing games such as cod (at max settings and at 4k) because while playing that game, it uses almost %100 of my gpu so i am not sure. While writing this I just realized that my rtx card has a encoding processing chip but im not sure, let me know your thoughts. EDIT: I am out of town with a mac so I cant test it to see but I totally will try it when I get back. I will also let you know my findings.
Little offtopic here but I have a question. I've just bought a 2070 Super Founders Edition and it's way to noisy at idle for my liking because it's always spinning at 1500 rpm. Is this normal and can I do anything about it?
@@samuelwhite3173 I don't think it has, I just like my systems 100% silent. I will return the Founders Edition and get another Card which features Zero Fan Mode.
@@Dionyzos There is no card that will be absolutely fanless without being an absolute behemoth of a card with tons of copper/other highly conductive materials.
@@samuelwhite3173 I don't mean fanless, I mean Zero Fan Mode, which leaves the Fans off until the chip gets hotter than about 55°C. A custom Fancurve would also do the job
Could you please explain recording video off stream? Like for instance recording bulk gameplay with either gpu or gpu encoding? I really don’t know the best settings :) ❤️
The video is good, but almost entirely about new nvenc and the changes that occurred. It's hardly an apples to oranges comparison like the title suggests. Keep up the good work though. Fantastic videos as always.
There have been times where my x264 encoder worked a whole lot better than my GPU encoder, even on the max quality setting 😆(Though to be fair, the last time that happened, I was using a Radeon card Lol) I wonder how it would be different for those people also trying to build their PC as a render farm with more powerful CPUs. So the takeaway is, the more powerful your CPU, the more you can get out of x264 and the more it beats NVENC (in terms of both frames and stream quality I would suppose)
Would love to see a test on more entry level hardware to see how it scales down. Something like i59400-r5 3600 up to i7 9700k-r73700x paired with more modest GPUs like the 1660super up to a 2070super. But at some point in the video you said that everything was still fine and dandy even when the GPU was being fully utilized? They must have fixed that on windows 10 recently because in the past when a game was requiring more than 95% of your GPU, OBS because had no GPU resources left, lagged and gave viewers a really choppy experience.
The i7 9700k is only 8 Threads, while the 3700x and i9 9900k have 16 Threads, so it isn't a good suggestion, the comparison is too simple, the cpu with multithreads is simply better here.
Nvidia has CUDA, CUDNN, NVENC, much better drivers, the option to use FreeSync or the superior GSync, Better VR Support + Pathing/Tracing, a much better OpenGL implementation, Raytracing, cool features like Integer Scaling and Freestyle. AMD nothing besides being slightly cheaper. They aren't even that much cheaper either.
Well, the only reason I buy Nvidia is it has better support for _everything_ . Besides, I know for a fact NVENC slays with transcoding so if I want to turn a 20-30 FPS video to 60, it churns it out in no time.
@@samuelwhite3173 The better VR support and performance is no longer the truth after Navi, now they are on par (look it up at babeltechreviews), Pathing/ Tracing? You mean the hacky path tracing support this first gen has got? Don't get me wrong, for a first try of hardware accelerated ray tracing it ain't bad but its not the second coming and AMD will support it for the new consoles to make it mainstream. Also being the user of a gtx 970 and rx 580 the better drivers are not "much better" like you said, I've encountered some weird ass shit coming from nVidia drivers like green screens, some video outputs not working after upgrading drivers and so on. And don't get me started on the whole 3.5gb thing but still I like the experience the gtx 970 has given me so far. I'll agree on CUDA and the new NVENC on the RTX cards, the better OGL support (on windows) and integer scaling. And the superior NVENC is the reason I'm going to upgrade to nVidia again on my main rig, but you also forgot to mention some of the advantages AMD has, like OpenCL (worse than CUDA still but useful in some areas), way better linux support and radeon image sharpening that runs with almost no performance penalty on navi. And the fact that you can use all of its features without needing to log in to the shitty geforce experience.
Hi everyone! I builded a pc by myself and I want to stream but I don't know what to use for encoding. My CPU is an i7-9700k and GPU a RTX 2060. I Want to stream 1080p 60fps and I have a 70M download and 25M upload. Now I'm using x264 but I have some frame lag issues only in the stream, not while I play too!, so I was wondering the NVENC. Can someone tell me the best settings for my configuration please? Thanks. My target games are fortnite, ac odyssey, lol and other games like them.
my experience is that nvenc new , only work properly when i reduce my fps to 60 in warzon at max settings 1440p on rtx 3080 wich is just stupid . useless for me i have work with this for couple of days with no solutions . nvenc for me wont be an option until it wont load gpu so much .
hey @Optimum Tech i tried to stream in 720p 120fps with the new obs studio (GPU ALLOCATION FIX), my game is very smooth i can see the 120 fps in obs and i have 0 dropped frames. BUT on twitch i can only see 720p/60 fps ??? Why ?
Thank you! Just in time to learn about NVENC when I am learning more for shadowplay recording. BTW does anyone know why shadowplay does not record mouse in desktop nor games? No option to turn it on either. Any help to turn it on would be apreciated
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Nice Intro, mate. I love it! 😍😍😍
how would a ryzen 3600 and a rtx 2060 super go in streaming?
Any Chance you can do a Noob Guide from a to z, how to setup a stream with OBS and Nvidia GPU & RX 5700 XT GPU? i think this would give you a huge amount of clicks :) and will help a lot of people who wants to start streaming but doesnt know anything about it :D Best Regards
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I think this will run very good ;)
Cause Nvenc performance looks great !
NVENC Quality should between X264 fast and medium ! Benchmarks in this video show awesome NVENC POWER ;)
Only 3900x looks better,around 90 fps in X264 in Slow is very good !
Me use 3700X and RTX 2060 normal,i will test next month what happen then i use NVENC NEW ;)
I remember asking about this during one of your streams like a week or so ago. Nice to see you made a video about this very topic. Appreciate it!
Thank you for this video! I always like keeping myself up to date when it comes to tech and think about what I would upgrade next if I could. Recently, I really considered either a 5700 XT or a 2070 Super but with me wanting to stream, this certainly gave me more clarity towards my choice! It's kind of sad not to see comparable features in AMD's GPU (correct me if I'm wrong please) since it has a much greater value and I like to support the "underdog". But if you want to stream this is just made for you so it will quite probably be my choice!
I was kind of rambling, sorry for that, but I just want to show my appreciation for content like this! Especially when it's this well done!
Technology aside, Ali has a God aim!
Its refreshing to see a reviewer who can actually properly utilize the hardware they're reviewing. Most of them aim like they have parkinsons.
@@rdmz135 and the vast majority know nothing about the game that they are testing
In most games I cant even feel a difference between streaming with NVENC, way better than x264
x264 sucks, VP9 and x265 are much better
@@Zero11s which service streams in h265 tho? That would be pretty demanding on hardware
Ray And why? :D
Ray Of course it dropps FPS, but way less than x264 since it runs on seperate hardware on the GPU.
Your actual GPU wont be impacted much, if at all by it, it does still tax your CPU but way less than x264 since it does not have to do the software rendering. NVENC is also optimized for gamestreaming abd does better on lower bitrates.
Fortnite is no different than any other game with it.
If you have proof for your claims pls link it to me, alway happy to learn new things ^^
@Ray Mate just look in Steamlabs, for example, on the bottom left while streaming. CPU usage is displayed there, I usually have about 4-8% while streaming with NVENC :D
Do you think streamig is nothing else besides Rendering the Visuals? Overlays like your Chat, Mixing the audio from Mic and ingame etc.
Brother you dont know how much i am thankfull to you..i just wanted this video and searched it for a couple of days ...but finally you made a video on this topic..really thank you...LOVE FROM INDIA..❤
Glad to help!
Love the new logo! It kinda looks like a tiny ghost s1 with a tophat that's centered within a CPU
Thank you for the update! I've been following this situation since your last video and glad it's fixed now!
It should be known that Apex, CSGO and OW are "CPU bound" games or games where performance is mainly geared towards how good your CPU is with GPU do little aside from rendering. Would have been a better test to include some games that rely a bit more heavily on the GPU.
Apex has always been a GPU bound game.
How come people don't stream above 1080p? As you didn't test 1440p or 4k, is there a limit set by twitch or mixer?
You can do it, but it's extremely demanding and requires a very high bitrate.
@@optimumtech And really fast internet connection where I live 1080p would be difficult to stream XD.
Nvenc can handle 2560x1440 max in-game settings recording at a consistent 60fps in obs with 25mbps bitrate. Ever since upgrading to a 30-series card, Recording my games without having much noticeable impact on game performance has been a very nice experience.
Sweet I might stick to doing this for my VR streams for the time being.
Great video!! I have a Ryzen 7 3700x and RTX 2070 Super, I’m new to streaming and was wondering if I should use NVENC or 264? Also what should my bitrate be, I like steaming 720p at 60 FPS. Thank you so much 🙏🏽
Depends if game uses more gpu or cpu
bro with that processor. just encode with cpu and let your gpu blow your game out of the water.
Hugo De La Rosa how would I do that? Thank u for the response :)
I wonder how you stream without any loss with NVENC.. I lose a lot even with a 3070.
I’m not sure if I’m getting this, but, does NVENC help just streaming? Or does it also help simply recording the gameplay, and putting less stress on the gpu, for example with a capture card?
Thank you, just what I was looking for!
Anyone using nvenc on 10 series cards, pascal architecture passes video encoding to system RAM and back to the GPU, this bottlenecks performance. RTX cards which use Turing Ampere architecture keep the encoding on the nvenc chip, no bottle neck. However when using the nvenc settings Psycho tuning and look-ahead the card then shares resources with 3D games, as these features use the cuda cores. So even on an RTX card, take a gpu hungry game which tries to use all of the available resources, currently Days gone is an example, you will see frames skipped due to encoding, forcing you to either cap the fps at 60 or reduce the graphic settings. Abeit there's not many games that run into this issue, it's still worthy of note.
Hi. I have a 5700xt. I shoulve just bought a 2070 super. Anyway, since I already have a 5700xt, can you suggest a workaround for to stream in a decent quality without lag or stutter? Should I just stream with CPU? If yes what cpu? Planning to stream apex and warzone. Hoping for your reply.
Thanks for the video and explanation. I do coding streams, and keen to get the best quality possible, what would be the best kit for a dedicated streaming pc? It seems like nvenc isn’t what I need for high quality, but can I still use the gpu, I thought the gpu was faster at encoding?
How does this compare to the encoder of Pascal though? Building a PC for my buddy and deciding whether I should get a 2060 for 300 or a 1070 for 200. He will be streaming in the future
so best settings to streamnig is 720p60fps? and what is better for streaming 3900X or RTX 2070? (build a new pc) i can stay with ryzen 1600af + rtx 2070super...or 3900X + gtx 10603gb
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Hy Optimus Tech. Ive a RTX 2080 (overclocked) in my PC and cant really decide If I stream in 900p60FPS or 720p60FPS with nvenc(new) 5500 Kbps. My Cam is the C922, so 720p60FPS or 1080p30FPS is better for the cam? maybe you can give some interesting new stuff for my brain. CU next in your stream, If you not answer here ;)
You bring the things to the point, short and exactly the info that build on top of each other.
You give one info out and the questions i got into my head after that (like 120fps streaming on cpu or nvenc) you instantly follow the path and answer them with your opinion and testing.
Very nice, very serious and high quality...keep it up please. There are a lot of other TH-camrs that just make Information about these topics are mess with mixing too many things into one video.
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If you have a PC with Ryzen 7 3700x and a 2060 card, which one would you prefer to stream? with the card or is the quality of the processor codec better? in that case, if my main use is to stream (without playing at the same time) it would be better to buy a ryzen 9 with a 1650 super, it is worth the same as the R7 with the 2060
So.. would you recommend goiing dual-pc or use that extra money (that would be used on the second PC) to simply make a more powerful single PC.
@Optimum Tech What if you use the RTX card on a dedicated streaming rig? Would it have issues handling 1080p60 with 4k facecam and 1080p mouse and keyboard cam?
Would love to know about this as well
What is the software and set up for your videos and editing? I like how you offer 1440p@60💯🔥✌️ great content as always👊
He probably uses sony vegas pro if not it's most likely adobe premiere pro but I hate adobe because they charge you for a monthly subscription.
Is the quality between GTX 1660 and rtx 2080 ti different or are they the same???
I would like to know as well.
So i've only seen some things around forums but from what I heard you can achieve similar quality among all cards with the new NVEnc but how hard it will hit you on the GPU Side is different among the lower end cards. A simple remedy though just capping your Frames to something like 60FPS or 120FPS depending on whether you can hit those frames normally on your card.
@@matiasl8249 It is the exact same encoder. Only the Quadro cards have a different encoder.
RTX series have an improved encoder
Hi man. What delivers the best quality at 1080p60, Ryzen 7 1700 dedicated + h.264, or NVidia turing nvenc chipset + h.265?
I have Asus Rog Strix 2070 Super and Ryzen 9 3900x. Im using NVEC codec for streams at 1080p 60fps. Should I use x264 codec? Which confg. you recommend to me for live game streams?
Do AMD GPUs have a feature like NVENC? I used to stream on a R7 1700 and a RX 580 8GB and I didn't experience any issues. I am thinking of building a completely new build thanks to you for inspiring me on a ITX build but I might have to invest in a Nvidia card now instead of AMD.
Nice and unique content... really nice... now I've a question, does 2060 super do the job or should i go for 2070 super for the streaming?
They both have the same exact encoder built inside of them. All of the RTX cards do so a 2060 has the same NVENC as the 2080TI. If you care about higher frames or higher quality settings then obviously the 2070 Super is the way to go. Watch comparisons of frames between the two because the streaming is the same
MBJ920 thanks
Raj Mir no problem :)
I Have Ryzen 5 3600, Should i Pair It with RTX 2060 Super OR RX 5700 XT for Streaming ?? And is It Better to stream on Cpu OR GPU Nvenc? for Quality Or Less Frame Drop
PC specs
mobo: gigabyte z390 aorus pro wifi
cpu: i5 8400
gpu: Rtx 2060
Ram: gigabyte aorus 16gb 3200mhz
Nzxt x62 Kraken v2
which should I upgrade?
The cpu to i9 9900k or the Gpu?
To play and stream at the same time with 120fps on the viewer's side with video quality like in game.
Search bottleneck calculator I would go for better gpu I think. Or CPU ive its bottleneck in streaming 6000 bite 1080p 60 on fn capped at 240 with i7 9700 and kfa2 with 16gb Imma upgrade later to 32gb and a 2070 super
I exactly think u can stream at good fps rn I've u have 6 core my CPU is pushed by 100% so i9 would also just be good with 2060 I've u only want to play 120 fps
So depends on game. And ur fps In it. Me I think you
Gpu
Both Overwatch and Apex Legends have multi-GPU support. Did you test the NVENC performance running 2 RTX GPUs?
I've actually got a need to encode 4 streams at once, max would be 4 x 1080p50. Are there any cards that could encode that many streams at once? Or would two cards be necessary? (don't worry about streaming software side of things, it's a new product I'm testing).
This won't be for gaming, but rather for live video production.
At a minimum we want to encode and stream 3 videos from the one PC, encoding using NVENC at 1080p25 each.
Twitch's technology is not designed for anything up to 60 fps as of right now. They're working on 4k60p and 8k60p, aka 4 and 8k resolution at 60 fps progressive scan. They may move to 240 to 360 fps later but that dependent on whether or not they will support x265 for partners and elite streams (aka, if you not a bad ass streamer, forget about it). As a note about x265, it does better with bandwidth at high density of data aka high resolutions, so 8k at 60 fps or faster would become a reality but you need special hardware to transcode this stream because it's hardware intensive and also when downloading and viewing, it's the same way. It's not quite as simple as x264 (or HW accelerated x264 aka NVENC).
ryzen 7 3700x + rtx 2070 super...so should i go nvenc all the way to stream, no matter what? i mean the cpu should be more than enough to stream 720p60fps with medium preset on games like fortnite etc, or not? maybe even 1080p60fps?
Hey, do you know if it's any good to use the new Nvenc with a GTX 1080ti or does it run worse than the old Nvenc or doesn't it matter which one to use with a GTX 1080ti?
you can't use the gtx 1080ti with the new NVENC chip because it doesn't have it. the new NVENC (on par with x264 medium compared to x264 ultrafast on older models) is a physical chip that comes with the rtx (turing and higher line) plus the gtx 1660ti and 1660 cards. so if you don't mind x264 ultrafast then by all means use it on the 1080ti otherwise you'll still want to use the cpu and a fast or medium preset.
what is the best streaming option for a setup like, 24gb ddr4 ram i5-9600kf and msi rtx 3050 8gb. when i game i use 1080p at 165hz and i normally cap for 70-100fps when streaming i have tested a few applications but there not great at all maybe elgato device is best?.
I’m planning on building a Ryzen 5 3600 RTX 2070s build and use nvenc for streaming. If not streaming, Would there be any bottlenecking issues?
So in your professional opinion, I have a 9900k and a 2070 super. I stream at 720p 60fps with a kiyo pro webcam. I’m always getting “slow frames” when I’m streaming with NVENC. Would this be a case in which I should stream at x264?
I have an older system - i7-8700k (have not overclocked), gtx 1080, 16 gigs ram.. Some of my x264 streams for older games were decent, but the recent avengers streams was choppy as crazy.. I have been struggling to fix it. I have a 200 mbps (download/upload) internet line.. so not problems there.. Any help on ideal OBS settings will help.. I have currently put bitrate at 8800 kbps, quality is high, and b frames 2... Can I increase the bitrate further???
When you're talking about CPU encoding, is that a software encoder or is that using QuickSync on your Intel CPU? If software, where would QuickSync fall compared to software and RTX-series NVENC?
Thanks!
Quick question, do you run the game at max graphic settings or do you lower/turn off some settings?
I started streaming 4 months ago with a R5 2600 + RX 480 with X264 set to FASTER. Recently bought an RTX 2070 and decided to give NVENC a go. FPS is higher than before, though I've noticed that the stream quality is, somehow, worse for the viewer. Have in mind that I my bitrate is set to 2000 kbps(my internet connection is very limited). Any thoughts?
Edit: forgot to mention that I have a webcam, some simple overlays and the stream resolution is set to 720p30
any fix for better bit rate? i use wireless antennas which are for about 1000mbps
Always enjoy your videos thanks man!
Wow. Ali doing great work yet again. Very happy with this,been playing around with it a little myself,and have been very happy with the results since the fix. edit,love the new intro,Ali it looks fantastic!
his name is what?
@@justin_64 eposvox
I have a bandwidth limit in 4000 kbps of my internet connection. What is the best nvenc settings in OBS for stream on i58400 Nvidia gtx1060 6gb in 1920x1080 60 fps (overwatch for example)? Please help. Thanks
Any idea where the 1650 Super stacks up on that list? Is it just the Turing architectures that pushes it to the top or the 2070 Super?
he smiles in the end.. take my like sir!
Thank you for this video! It's exactly what I was looking for! Legend
If I run my 2060 super through my elgato hd60 pro instead of directly into my monitor, should i be using x264 instead? I expected adding a capture card to my setup to make my pc streams smoother, but i feel like its the opposite.
5:00 RE the dropped frames while encoding at 120FPS, have you tried running the latest versions of Windows + running OBS as Admin? According to the testing I've seen, that nearly almost eliminates any drops
The reason you are not able to run 120fps with good stability is because OBS doesn’t officially support 120fps recording. Other than that, great NVENC video!
Whats your mouse/DPI Settings/mouse pad? Does the Windows mouse settings affect in game?
Why 6500 bitrate? Doesn twitch recomend 6k. Even for affiliate
What encoder does the 5700 XT use? I know it isnt as good as NVENC but could you try show it vs NVENC on Turing and x264 from the CPU? Would be real cool thanks!
what do you think an i9 9900k on a dedicated streaming PC (dual PC) can push on x264? Medium or better?
So would it be a good idea to get a cheap 1600 series gpu to use nvenc encoding and get a stronger rtx card to run games?
I'm surprised nothing was published saying this was worked on. That leads me to believe it was probably a bug or something on the Microsoft side rather than nvidia. Either way, great video! SUPER informative 😜
I have a pc with the following specs: i9 9900K and a RTX 2070 card. But if i want to stream it is really lagging. Even on 720p can somebody help me i am bagging you
Hi! I have a RX570 4g, i want to buy a r2700, will it be enough for streaming in good quality for youtube? For 1080 60fps? Or better to buy 1080ti or 2070s for streaming? Like for the video
AMD VCE sucks, EpoxVox stated that AMD isn't doing anything great. You might as well pair your R7 2700 with a 2070.
hi, i was wondering if you are planning to do a video about game streaming to twitch while also streaming to discord, you know the "subsecond delayed" one
i5 9400f + 1660ti will it deliver a decent gameplay + stream..?
So... im Able to Play in 1440p and 144hz and stream in 1080p and 60hz With only 10 fps Drop ? :D (With webcam)
120FPS!? I'm trying to get a 15FPS 720p stream with no webcam to work. I think I'm gonna use NVENC
And a bitrate of 2000
Is it worth getting the 2080 over the 2070? Just for streaming btw
A little extra fps. That's all really.
is a 1660super better than a ryzen 9 3900x for streaming?
Which streaming resolution would you reccomend for 3440x1440?
so i have a low end pc but i have a better gpu than cpu
should I use the nvenc?
So i have a GTX 1080ti and an R9 3900x. Should i stream NVENC NEW or X264?
x264 obviously, 1080ti isn't strong enough to handle encoding long term. 3900x cpu is a beast. Even with streaming, gaming, video capture you won't be able to utilise all its cores.
I have a i9-9900k and a rtx 2070 super and ive been curious if using my cpu while recording/streaming would be a better option than streaming with my rtx card while playing games such as cod (at max settings and at 4k) because while playing that game, it uses almost %100 of my gpu so i am not sure. While writing this I just realized that my rtx card has a encoding processing chip but im not sure, let me know your thoughts.
EDIT: I am out of town with a mac so I cant test it to see but I totally will try it when I get back. I will also let you know my findings.
but u didnt!
Little offtopic here but I have a question. I've just bought a 2070 Super Founders Edition and it's way to noisy at idle for my liking because it's always spinning at 1500 rpm. Is this normal and can I do anything about it?
1500rpm is like nothing. Your unit may have pretty bad coil whine. Try an RMA.
@@samuelwhite3173 I don't think it has, I just like my systems 100% silent. I will return the Founders Edition and get another Card which features Zero Fan Mode.
@@Dionyzos There is no card that will be absolutely fanless without being an absolute behemoth of a card with tons of copper/other highly conductive materials.
@@samuelwhite3173 I don't mean fanless, I mean Zero Fan Mode, which leaves the Fans off until the chip gets hotter than about 55°C. A custom Fancurve would also do the job
so a i5 9600k paired with a Rtx 3080 is fine?
Could you please explain recording video off stream? Like for instance recording bulk gameplay with either gpu or gpu encoding? I really don’t know the best settings :) ❤️
I have an i7 7700k with a gtx 1080, would I be able to stream with NVENC without any dropped frames or am I bottle necked by the quad core?
NVENC strictly uses the GPU, not the CPU. Unless you set your OBS to x264 (CPU) instead of NVENC.
1650 super has turing nvenc chip just some added information. Its the best for a streaming PC currently on a budget.
So I have a 3060 ti and a i7 13 gen what do I use for my stream, keep in mind my internet is bad so I use 2200 bitrate😅
Could you just increase bandwidth? Would it matter?
It would matter, up to a certain extent until Twitch/your streaming platform will cap the bandwith.
Does this nvenc use the gpu rams? I'm trying to justify getting the rtx 3090 xD
Should i buy a 3600 with a 2070 Super and stream with NVENC or should I buy a 3700x and a RX 5700 XT and stream with x264?
Depends on the game
3700x with 3060ti. Use nvenc for smaller games, use x264 for big games
I was watching this and then at 05:18 I thought my PC was having issues from that sound alone 😂
The video is good, but almost entirely about new nvenc and the changes that occurred. It's hardly an apples to oranges comparison like the title suggests. Keep up the good work though. Fantastic videos as always.
There have been times where my x264 encoder worked a whole lot better than my GPU encoder, even on the max quality setting 😆(Though to be fair, the last time that happened, I was using a Radeon card Lol) I wonder how it would be different for those people also trying to build their PC as a render farm with more powerful CPUs. So the takeaway is, the more powerful your CPU, the more you can get out of x264 and the more it beats NVENC (in terms of both frames and stream quality I would suppose)
do you know if the rtx encoder power, its the same on all rtx graphic cards?
Well, the last thing you need to have is an optical fiber connection
2 years waiting and countin' :(
Could opt for ethernet have the cable across the floor and remove it when your not streaming.
Would love to see a test on more entry level hardware to see how it scales down. Something like i59400-r5 3600 up to i7 9700k-r73700x paired with more modest GPUs like the 1660super up to a 2070super.
But at some point in the video you said that everything was still fine and dandy even when the GPU was being fully utilized? They must have fixed that on windows 10 recently because in the past when a game was requiring more than 95% of your GPU, OBS because had no GPU resources left, lagged and gave viewers a really choppy experience.
The i7 9700k is only 8 Threads, while the 3700x and i9 9900k have 16 Threads, so it isn't a good suggestion, the comparison is too simple, the cpu with multithreads is simply better here.
OT is cracked at Apex. Color me impressed.
Can i use ryzen 3 1200 and 1650 then?
Didn't know about this stuff at all.
And I bought a 2070.
Nvidia has CUDA, CUDNN, NVENC, much better drivers, the option to use FreeSync or the superior GSync, Better VR Support + Pathing/Tracing, a much better OpenGL implementation, Raytracing, cool features like Integer Scaling and Freestyle. AMD nothing besides being slightly cheaper. They aren't even that much cheaper either.
@@samuelwhite3173 I had money to buy a 5700x. I didn't. I bought a beast 2070. This card is amazing at 1080p.
Well, the only reason I buy Nvidia is it has better support for _everything_ . Besides, I know for a fact NVENC slays with transcoding so if I want to turn a 20-30 FPS video to 60, it churns it out in no time.
@@samuelwhite3173 The better VR support and performance is no longer the truth after Navi, now they are on par (look it up at babeltechreviews), Pathing/
Tracing? You mean the hacky path tracing support this first gen has got? Don't get me wrong, for a first try of hardware accelerated ray tracing it ain't bad but its not the second coming and AMD will support it for the new consoles to make it mainstream. Also being the user of a gtx 970 and rx 580 the better drivers are not "much better" like you said, I've encountered some weird ass shit coming from nVidia drivers like green screens, some video outputs not working after upgrading drivers and so on. And don't get me started on the whole 3.5gb thing but still I like the experience the gtx 970 has given me so far.
I'll agree on CUDA and the new NVENC on the RTX cards, the better OGL support (on windows) and integer scaling. And the superior NVENC is the reason I'm going to upgrade to nVidia again on my main rig, but you also forgot to mention some of the advantages AMD has, like OpenCL (worse than CUDA still but useful in some areas), way better linux support and radeon image sharpening that runs with almost no performance penalty on navi. And the fact that you can use all of its features without needing to log in to the shitty geforce experience.
@@Lork22cm in addition, sharpening always been in nvidia freestyle and it now moves into control panel.
Goddammit still my favorite youtube video. Love from sweden
Hi everyone! I builded a pc by myself and I want to stream but I don't know what to use for encoding. My CPU is an i7-9700k and GPU a RTX 2060. I Want to stream 1080p 60fps and I have a 70M download and 25M upload. Now I'm using x264 but I have some frame lag issues only in the stream, not while I play too!, so I was wondering the NVENC. Can someone tell me the best settings for my configuration please? Thanks. My target games are fortnite, ac odyssey, lol and other games like them.
my experience is that nvenc new , only work properly when i reduce my fps to 60 in warzon at max settings 1440p on rtx 3080 wich is just stupid . useless for me i have work with this for couple of days with no solutions . nvenc for me wont be an option until it wont load gpu so much .
I love all your content keep it up bro
hey @Optimum Tech i tried to stream in 720p 120fps with the new obs studio (GPU ALLOCATION FIX), my game is very smooth i can see the 120 fps in obs and i have 0 dropped frames. BUT on twitch i can only see 720p/60 fps ??? Why ?
im on nvenc new btw
Any plans on reveiwing the Asus X570i Gaming ?
Would like to see this as well
Thank you! Just in time to learn about NVENC when I am learning more for shadowplay recording. BTW does anyone know why shadowplay does not record mouse in desktop nor games? No option to turn it on either. Any help to turn it on would be apreciated
there is an option to record desktop, just go to the privacy setting on the nvidia shadowplay overlay
@@pandar3n459 thanks for the reply but I tried that, turned on and off but no cursor either way
Great video thank you bro
I'd love to see an update of this using quicksync on 12th gen.
Supposedly better on 12th gen (V8), but in my experience absolutely usable on 10th gen too (V7)