Porsche 928 S4 Goes for a Drive
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- The Porsche 928 was intended to replace the 911, that obviously didnt happen and by the late '80s had evolved into an incredible GT.
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For me this is a most appealing continent crosser of a GT. In fact, I find it considerably more appealing than the current front-engined Porsches - excellent as they may be. The first 928 I ever saw was in Swaziland - it was finished in pearlescent white, which suited those flowing lines so well and I thought then it was the most beautiful car I'd ever seen. I'd even forgive the 928 its lack of any tea shelf arrangements.
I haven't noticed before how far back within the wheelbase the engine actually sits - getting on for being a front mid-engined configuration.
I still think that the rear end treatment echoes one of the Pegaso coupes from times past.
I had to chuckle when you had a go at pronouncing the word 'timbre', after your insistence on avoiding the Germanic voicing of Porsche!
Terrific car (I wish it were mine) and, as always, a great video. Thanks, Matt!
One of the nicest designs of the 1970s, like the InterCity125 has aged well and still looks modern today even when compared to newer vehicles.
I totally agree!
My absolute dream car since it came out.
Unfortunately my wallet never matched my dreams.
When the 928s came out ,I saw a red (guards red?) one come past me in London ,with a full on red braces wearing yuppie driving , the number plate was THE 928S,. I assume a Porsche GB demonstrator of the time?
Nice to see it's covered 188'000 miles,so no garage queen 👍👍up to the owners for using it.
You're right, THE 928S was a Porsche UK demonstrator and press fleet car number plate for pretty much the entire life of the 928. Needless to say it's pretty famous from road tests in magazines and the like...
i know what you are talking about, its such a beautiful odd shape looking car next to other boring square looking boxes on wheels nowadays
I love my 928s, it was my dream car after seeing one on Weird Science as a kid. Mine is a 1983 with the 4.7s single dizzy motor. It was the cheapest one in the UK when I got it about 18mths ago, in that time they have doubled in price, glad I bought when I did as even a very poor example is now out of my budget.
Great to see your appraisal of a brilliant car... Had mine for 29 years now and still love it!
Tha 928 certainly has aged very well, it looks quite modern! Great video Matt!
Harry Metcalfe’s Countach is also on an E “number” JAR plate so this must have been registered around the same time. A great time for poster cars
Yes it is, isn't it? Around at the same time and local dealers too
@@furiousdriving perhaps some lucky devil owned them both!
@@furiousdriving AR is an Essex number. They were probably owned by rival retired gangsters turned publicans. Or perhaps even part of the same collection.
@@benc8386 As an Essex man, I take exception to that stereotype. Although you’re probably spot on 😂
i have an 88 S4 in diamond Metallic Blue. that compartment you elude to in the door is more than that...it serves as a comfortable arm rest. It comes in handy on long trips.
I also have a 1987 928 S4, but mines in Grand Prix White, not Guards Red like the one in your video. I was going to ask you if you wanted to do a video on it when I've finished, but I guess I'm too late now! They are amazing cars. You missed mentioning the controls for the electric memory seats. The unknown toggle switch is non-standard. Probably something to do with an after-market alarm. The numbers on the gear shift are not gear indicators, but modes. If you want maximum acceleration from a standing start you need to move the gear selector to '2'. By default the car will set off in second, switching it to mode 2 will cause the car to set off in first and only change up to second when you hit the redline or manually shift to 3.
Also, the 928 has something called a Weissach rear axle which allows for a degree of passive rear wheel steer and this is one of the reasons the 928 is so utterly stable at ridiculous speeds.
Has every 928 got that passive rear axle
@@johnwoodcock6468 Yes, they all have the Weissach rear axle.
@@AndyD070568 thanks. Supercool. Ive driven them before. They drive, steer, and stop really well for a car design from 70s 80s. Great car
My dad had 928s in the 80s. A 928S2 in 1986 and a 928S4 in 1989. His 928S2 he only kept for 6 months as did not like as had a XJS V12 before and found the 928 basic and not quicker, so in 1986 got a another XJS but a 3.6 manual which did not keep long it was built on a Friday changed to a BMW 7. The magazines at the time said from 320 to 330 BHP for the S4
Shame you didn't get to try a manual version.. My mother, yes really, had a 928 and then a 928S both in manual and they're a totally different car to those with automatic gearboxes. I well remember borrowing the 928S for a road trip around the UK back in the mid-90s... Wheelspin in 3rd gear but so stable with it.
She now contents herself with an early- 2000s WRX. She is 78 after all. Needless to say I borrowed that a few years ago to do a similar trip - couldn't get over how busy the roads were after 15 years overseas.
Love your channel, great review! Just a tip for standing starts in the 928S4, it uses a 4 speed Merc slush box. Whilst it’s bullet proof, the box starts off in 2nd gear when D is selected! To get the big lump to start in first you have to select 2nd! Very Porsche, an oxymoron just like the Taycan ‘turbo’ lol. Anyway, car really takes off briskly when you start in 1st. Manual is better. I am a lucky boy and own both an S4 and GT. Keep up the great work! Cheers from down under!
That car design is so timeless. S4 is seriously undervalued car right now compared to the absolutely bonkers prices that air-cooled 911's go for. It's a genuine bargain and the prices WILL go up. Buy them now!!!!
4pm in the afternoon here in Aus. and I have just come in for a cup of tea and struck this just after it was loaded. Never been one of the first comments before. ‘On yer. Matt.
Congratulations for being first Peter.
Greetings Bill. 👍
Hello Australia
I used to love seeing these back in the 80s. My doctor always had one as she loved them. Those seats though, they do look really comfy. They probably are my favourite GT car. Great video as always
WOW! One of my favourite cars of all time. Nice one Matt. Launched in the same year I was born, I first remember seeing these in the 1980s, love everything about them from the exposed pop up headlights to....well just the unique styling of them that has not dated at all imo. This S4 looks fantastic in red. I kinda appreciate a GT car like this rather than something with outright performance and handling anyway.
Had a 1991 928S4 and your motor has the later 928GTS wheels. Picky I know! cheers from a (rather rainy) Otford, Kent. Keep up the good work.
Ahh... The Shark. Being born in '78, this was one of my 1st loves re Cars. A truly great thing. Cheers
I LOOOOOOVED these cars when I was a teenager. You should park it next to a Chrysler sedan or something from the same year to see how it much it looked like a spaceship vs the "normal".
Only one thing to add: 1987 facelift changed the looks quite dramatically. So visually the S4/GT/GTS facelift wasn't quite the same looking car that was released back in 1977. To my eye, it was much more dramatic change than say, 964 -> 993 which are actually quite difficult to tell apart if you're not a Porsche enthusiast.
Well. It was obvious it was still a 928. Not a new # car.
I was never a fan of Porsche, but the 928 was something else when it arrived. I was in my early teens when it was launched and it was like something from out of space , it still looks modern and fantastic today. The problem this car had was it was born of Porsche. Porsche was 911 end of story at that time which polarises opinion love them or loathe them! It would be interesting if a car of this type had been launched now that Porsche is more than the 911 would it have more accepted? I think so.
In my opinion this is one of if not the greatest car designs because it set a whole new path for car design that followed.
I love my S4 - when they designed it, they locked the accountants out of the room and let the engineers run riot. It was years ahead of the competition, and I can drive for hours in it with no discomfort.
and try do a tip run in a Countach or 328......
This car was such a modern design when it was introduced: integrated and aerodynamic bumpers, almost flush windows with the body etc. A family member of mine had a GTS for over 12 years. Sadly the car was written off by a mechanic... Great review Matt!
I think people who are not German and say "Porscha" are ridiculous. Great videos! I'm a recent subscriber and a classic car enthusiast and finally found a great TH-cam channel regarding this matter. Congrats and keep up with the good work.
Finally someone has said that real word PORSCHE. I've never come across a PORSHEU in my life. 👋👋
You have never visited a posh London dealer with a German sales executive then, the emphasis on the SCHE is correct and pronouncing it similar to the female name Portia is correct ( pronounced as Por-schia).
@@tonys1636 understand completely but I had a Matchbox Porsche Turbo and my Da proudly explained to me what is was, a Porsh like Borscht without the t at the end. and why it was cool. If he heard my saying Portia he'd think I was a bit of a twit.
Try visiting Germany
The other replies said the same, its 'por-scha' ... I used to know a mechanic in the USA whose last name was "Porsch" he said if there is an 'e' on the end then you pronounce it.
@@A_Treat well my name is Cooke but is pronounced Cook. So explain to me why my Father, Grandfather, Great Grandfather etc also pronounced it Cook and not Cookuh because it ended in e.
Great video! In those days I always wanted a 928 but had to settle for a 924 LeMans... but I did get to drive one just like yours in the video: S4, red. auto. Will never forget the pleasure. If I could find a really nice late model today I might be tempted... :-)
My dad had 2. A 1978 and. 1983.
I drove the 1983 though highschool and it was so glorious! I miss that car so much.
Very, very nice. Always liked the 928 immensely! Totally ahead of it’s time, and actually, quite timeless as a result.
Great review, a poster car for me as a kid.
Used to go to school with Jo Joyner's brother in their Dads 928.
I need a car like this in my life. I loved them when I was a kid and they have got better with age.
Enjoyed the review brings back memories from my childhood 70s/80s when the 928 was every boys dream car of course along with all other Porsche models
The bodyshell DID change actually. The GT/GTS had flared rear wheel arches to cover wider rear wheels/tytres. Also the seat adjustments are customised for up to three drivers, memory selection on driver's door. You could have mentioned the reason why a 928 handles so well - the Weissach back axle which optimises the rear castor in corners.
The future of car design had arrived 20 years ahead of its time - still stunning to this day
Always loved the 928. Some used to call it an old man's car compared with the 911 but they were wrong. Great little details like the pantograph rear wiper and extra sunvisors over the back window. I think the instrument binnacle adjusted with the steering wheel to keep it always in the right field of view. Agree on single syllable pronunciation of the name in English, unless you buy one and then you can pronounce it how you like. For the same reason the Countach is "Count-ash".
Some things you missed. The adjustable steering isn’t just the wheel but the full gauge pod moves with it.
It has rear as well as front sun visors.
Absolutely, hands down my favourite Porsche. It's amazing how different a car can feel with just different gearbox options. They really do feel utterly different with manual and auto boxes. The auto is quite a gentlemanly car to drive whereas the manual, well, you can feel it make the devil horns grow out of your head...
jajajaja Tengo manual S4
I was blown away as a 10 year old when they (the series 1 version) came out in 1978. I've always liked them & should've bought one when they were an absolute bargain 10 or 15 years ago. I've missed the boat now, but I'm happy enough with the car I've got.
Very informative and well described video Matt.
Still the only Porsche I'd consider too
I am not really a massive Porsche fan, but I actually quite like this one. Looks perfect for cruising.
I’ve got furious envy Matt.The 928 is in my top 3 for best looking car ever made alongside the Daytona and Etype.
Great camera set-up Matt, professional angles.
thanks
LOVE this car, and the 928 was simply beautiful in every way.
Very enjoyable review, with lots of information, thank you so much.
Saw a GTS in Burry Port, my home town, near Llanelli, a few years ago. Had never seen a 928 before, or since. Steve Davis' {snooker} driver drove his straight off the road, down a rough track, writing it off in the process, but he and Steve were both ok. Steve bought a new one straight away. It's alright for some !
Love these although I actually prefer the look of the earlier cars, those are the ones I remember looking at in car books when I was a kid!
Nice video, a few nurdy points you missed. When you flash the lights and the main lights are down, it uses auxiliary lights in the bumper not the main lights. The binnacle moves when the steering is adjusted. Passive rear wheel steering. You were pulling away in 2nd gear from a stop.
You sound like a fellow 928 owner/custodian. Not too many of us around!
Yeah I heard it and thought the same, didn't punch the pedal hard enough to start in first.
Brilliant timing - I've just bought one of these and picked it up yesterday :) I'm looking forward to watching this, and I'm ready to hear your tea shelf comments relating to the rear spoiler!! :D
There is a bit of 928 content in my channel for anyone interested...
Now that’s a motor car ! I just love the “analogue ness” of it .
Great Video Matt, another stunning looking Porsche from a fantastic era
You didn’t demonstrate the pop up lights Matt- schoolboy error!
I realised that as I edited!
I've always loved the 928 since the first time I saw one on the late 70s. That gorgeous V8 rumble was so in keeping with the nature of the car. Too bad Porsche, Volkswagen, and Audi have lost the knowledge of how to tune an appropriate exhaust note. Louder and rortier does not equal sporty, and is certainly very much out of keeping with a Bentley.
I do wonder why Porsche engineers had to go to the effort of a rear transaxle. After all, the old Volvo 240 with its cast iron Red Block manages to distribute the weight 51% front and 49% rear. With me in the driver's seat and two beagles on the way back, and the weight distribution was exactly 50/50. Even fully laden, the weight distribution changes slightly to 49/51 front to rear as long as you know how to pack properly.
Wonderful car! I don't mind the auto box but I think I would like an early 928S better, in a 70s metallic colour an with the pasha interior 🤩
The 911 was somewhat of an icon. An almost unique layout and spec. and beautiful styling too. The 928 might have been a great GT with stunning looks, but with front engine and rear wheel drive, it was essentially a similar product to many other manufacturers offerings. If you love an air-cooled flat six sitting out behind, it's going to be a very big ask to change your mind, and leave behind a product which made Porsche unique.
Love this car, BTW, and thank you for showing us around. :-)
Lovely example of a 928, what a noise it makes. Cracking review as always.
Nice review and commentary _ I did have to listen hard as my ears are slower than your enthusiastic commentary. Always wondered about 928 handling and drivability. Many thanks
Spectacular car always loved the 928, even more than the 911. I always thought that Porsche would remove the rear doors of the Panamera and introduce a modern day 928. Not that I could afford one anyway.
For me the S4 is the sweet spot. Best value for money in a fantastic combination of power and refinement. The automatic suits the car's GT dna beautifully.
These looked awesome back in the 80's, remember thinking how massive that curved back end looked.
looks still nice
Hey Matt, we did some tree work on the green at the end of your road this week. If you'd have been out filming I would have said hello. Small world. Love today's Porsche. One of my favourites.
Nice one Matthew , a real old classic.
This is a fabulous machine and practically the only pre 00's Porsche I haven't driven yet. Great to see a well used example, proof of how well engineered this car is. Love seeing the earlier versions in Risky Business and Scarface
It's easy to forget these are from the 70s. Must have look like a space ship at the time. These facelift cars look every bit as 80s as the 944 and 924.
That's one of my favorite cars since the minute it debuted. It looks like nothing else on the road.
100% agree!
The 928 still looks fresh, relevant as it did 40 years. And nothing says power as a V8. The only item that changed was its taillamps.
Very nice review.
Those who denegrated the 928 are driving a Cayenne. Now THAT is blasphemy!
Great vid enjoy the detail and your enthusiasm carries the information well thanks for sharing
But Porsche actually developed the 924 for Audi, they used the design when VAG decided not to build it. And the VW beetle was designed by Ferdinand Porsche, so all those cars were defacto Porsche in-house designs, plus it's hard to separate VAG and Porsche because VW group is largely owned and managed by the Porsche family
Nice work 👌🏻 One of my favourite Porsches! I would take mine in GTS flavour 😍
Then just do it!
Another one I would love. I did seriously consider one in the early 2000s but bottled out. Cheap Porches and the potential for a Black hole to appear in one's bank account eventually tempered the lust. I really like the look of the early models without the spoilers. Very cool though. Maybe, when I win the lottery?
Great videos of these classic cars I really enjoy them. Would be nice to see some footage of dash clocks whilst driving 😊
SciFi... a 928 was used in the movie Looker which was a futuristic 80’s film about using identities for television.
With a look 🤓🤓
You've have done it to me again Mr Furious, one has not slept yet, now one shall sleep even later aha
Some fantastic b-roll in this video Matt, you did a great job showcasing this wonderful looking car!
Hi Matt,another great review on a Porsche,this is a nice looking car,have they based it round the early one.comparison almost identical.
I would choose a 928 over a 911 from the same era. Why? Because I think the 928 is left aside. Call me rare for that. I would prefer a manual 928 but they are hard to find as far as I know.
Great car and great video. Greetings from El Salvador
Such a great design. I love how the doors are integrated into the dashboard.
Well worth 10 million views for Matt’s channel! 👍
Great video mate! I enjoy the "Britishness" of your content, and your overall attention to detail. Cheers from the absolute best part of planet Earth, Far North Queensland, Australia.
My '95 928 GTS that I have owned for 8years is a blast of a car!! Once you fire up the 5.4 litre V8 engine!! it makes for exhilarating driving!!! It is not that bad on petrol it depends on your driving style!! It's by no means a slow car for its weight!! The only thing I did replace was the stereo system as the standard system was awful !! Other than that it's stock standard!! Sitting at 60 000 miles it drives and handles as the day it rolled off the showroom floor!!
Ahhh purists... Perhaps an interesting little story. I tend to fall into that trap myself. Bought myself a late XM as daily driver. It drove splendidly, yet also lived up to its reputation: it leaked all fluids an XM can leak. After a short discussion with the Citroen garage that sold it to me, they agreed to take the XM back, provided I would purchase another car from them. The only car they had that was acceptable to me was a 2007 C4 Grand Picasso. I like MPVs, drove a Voyager in the past, but I never ever would have bought this car if I had a free choice. Two months on I really start to appreciate the modern features of the C4. Compared to my '98 Omega it drives very easy, is quiet, comfortable. Ok the robot gearbox is an aqcuired taste, but overall an easy car to drive. As a daily driver absolutely better than the 15+ year old cars I have driven (as daily drivers) over the past 10+ years...
Best car shape ever designed......hands down.
i used to have a 928 and it was absolutely fantastic to drive
This is one of my grail cars. Great vid
Love the look of this 928 S4, especially in red!
I've always preferred the 928 or the 944 over the 911. I might be strange but I find them much more attractive cars. This one looks incredibly comfy in those gorgeous seats! Shame its automatic but never mind. I'd have one! 👍
Just got my red S2, great cars!
Thank you from Belarus for reviewing cars we can afford here
I believe this was the first production car to have a bonded windscreens and glass all round
I thought it was the first gen Peugeot 405 ?.
@@dj_paultuk7052 I’ve had a search on the net apparently the 1961 Buick Riviera was the first production car in the world to have a bonded windscreen. In Europe the 1973 Matra Bagheera was the first and in the UK the Rover SD1 was the first production car to have one along with the TVR Tasmin 👍
Love your reviews... some of the best on TH-cam
You can understand why porsche wanted to distance themselves from VW when the 924 launched and people kept saying it had a vw van engine
That would have still been raw with them Im sure
I’ve never clicked on a TH-cam video so quickly. The 928 has always been my dream car 😍
‘I’m not German and I’ve always -pronounced it Porsch so tough’. So it’s the dude’s last name. Pronounced Porscha -just like Chevrolet is not called ‘Shevrolett’ because that’s what YOU decide. The 928 was Porsha’s first home-made car. I’ve had three. They are the red-headed step-child’s of the Porscha family since they aren’t a 911. Btw I own a 964 so I’m not biased.
It's dual overhead cam (hence the 32 valves). Not quite double a 968 engine but very similar in design.
Actually, the breakdown of automatics vs. manual transmission models is 73% auto, 27% manual. Don't know where the commonly quoted 80% auto figure came from, but it's wrong.
I had the Cruise control option in my old 1987 Volvo 240GL...
I had cruise control as standard fitment on my 1976 Ford Thunderbird. Cruise control was a dealer installed option on the Volvo 240 back into the 70s as well
@@michaeltutty1540 I installed an aftermarket Cruise control in my 1971 142! ;) I know these first got common in the US and later in Europe, now, I refuse to buy a car without! ;)
Cruise control still works even on my 1978 928.
I have to confess that, when you showed the trim I was trying to work out why it said 826. I'll close the door on my way out...
Fantastic review of a sensational Porsche which is finally getting the love it deserves 👍👍
Very much of its time, always like the 911 but also like the quirky look of 928 and 944
Great review! Thank you!
Best car I ever owned and still looks great today!
What a stunning Car 😍 it still looks good in 2022
Fantastic car for its time...Shark of the motorways...