Hey everyone. Something that's happened before. A debate started about the correct pronunciation of Porsch/Porsche/Porscha and it started to get a bit heated with people speaking to each other in a way they probably wouldn't do in person. This is meant to be a entertainment video not an exercise in one-upmanship. So if you don't like my German pronunciation in the fake commercial I recorded in the middle, sorry. I do speak German reasonably well but I also know it's still considered pretentious in many English speaking countries to pronounce the word Porsche 'correctly'. So I pitch to the audience and sometimes flatten the last 'e'. The last thing I need is (notably, Americans) correcting or rebuking me. Verstehen? So if you feel like leaving a comment with the intention to start an arguments between strangers, then go watch another channel. Cheers Stu. Einen schönen Tag noch
Just pronounce it the way that suits you, if you really want to get the purists fizzing at the bung hole just open up the good old "nine twety eight" debate😂
@@davidwebster5258 Did you notice I did pour some kerosene on that fire with that exact discussion @ 19:02? Very proud of my finest German accent voice-over on the old TV commercial. Yes, that was me doing both voices. And I'd really appreciate some native German speaker critiquing my accent there - is it clear and intelligible? Somebody please leave a comment. (You can be critical but please be nice - too much flaming already)
Loved the video! I bought my first 928 in 97', a white 79 manual with matching white telephone wheels. Sold it early 2001 and bought an 85' S (auto unfortunately). In 2010, after assurance from my mechanic that "it would love it", I threw my golf clubs into the back and headed across the Nullabor from Perth to Melbourne via the Great Ocean Road. He was right, it did love it........and so did I, even more so. What a drive!!! Whilst in Melbourne, I had a look at a 1990 black 928GT. I wouldn't even rate myself half sensible, so of course I bought it. I freighted it back to Perth on the train, and after a couple of weeks of golf, headed back west in the 85' S. There is only one thing better than driving the GOR in a 928, and that's doing it again in reverse (not literally). The "S" didn't miss a beat during that 7000km plus trip, pure driving joy. I sold the "S" in 2019 after 19 years (like selling a child). The GT is a magnificent car. The manual gearbox allows total engagement with the vehicle, you become it, and it becomes you. There are no plans to sell the GT, how could I? Long live the 928!!!!
Wow. Your road trips make mine look like a short blat around the block to grab some groceries from Aldi. Great to hear from a true long-time landshark afficionado. Congrats on your cars. I presume you'd agree about how much better the 928GT box is than the early 5 speed.
@@inCARnationAustralia Great video! Regarding the 5 speeds. I have owned a 1989 GT and now have a 1979 manual. To me I like the early 5 speed better. It suits the "brute" feel of the car better than the GT 5 speed which I think has "too short" throws. Maybe look into a refurb of your manual and try different oil. They are not fast shifting but great feeling, atleat my -79.
When I bought my 84 928s back in May of 2015 i drove it around San Diego for around an hour in town and on the freeway before I began the 1379 mile trip back to my house in the Dallas Texas area. Since it is an 84 I was playing songs from 1984 the whole way. Lots of fun going full blast at night across the Arizona and new Mexico desert with the song I can't drive 55 at full volume. Long road trip in a newly bought car to me will always be the best way to bond with your car. Saw 928s in Europe when I was stationed in Germany in the mid 80s and always wanted one. Mine is guards red with tan aka champagne interior. Always loved the styling of the s model the best with the subtle black spoilers. As you said beautiful and elegant.
STILL a smart choice. At these levels (power train, the lower cost is just a bonus), a well driven 928 will roast a Lambo with Yuppie on Board...off track
Only sports car ever to win European "Car" of the year. the 928 also set two Bonneville Salt Flats fastest production car land speed records. Its a movie star (Risky Business, Weird Science, Scar Face) and a Poster Super Car of the 1980s. Frankly, the 911 is the poorman's 928.
Don't slam the boot! 🤣 I have a US 1978 Porsche 928, silver metallic with black/blue pasha interior, 103k miles, manual, and no sun roof. I'm still restoring it, slowly. It's taking a long time because I keep running out of money.
Somehow this popped up on my watch list so I clicked. Totally enjoyed it. will def watch more of your content. I worked at Porsche dealership in the 1990s and we had several 928 in Stock, many sat in basement storage for months, if not years before they sold. The GTS was a weapon, and these came and went in heartbeats. But those S2 S4 models with 3 speed Autos would be there forever. they just fell out of love with the Porshe crowd. We had to constantly charge them up every few months. The 928 always had a special following. Same as the 944 and 968. But when you could buy a 911Sc for 45k we struggled to get 25k for a 928. I still say to this day they had the best GT seats of any car i driven. They seem to have come into their own now 45 years later. Only the Brave buy old 928. Makes for good content.
I have always felt that the 928 is the best Porsche ever made simply beautiful and the V-8 engine! The smooth chrome rims. I wish I could’ve ever afford one, but I’ve been in love with them all my life.
If you are really that keen, I decided what I could afford and bought relatively cheaply. The pundits are right, they can be expensive, but as long as everything is there, you can go a long way with careful refurbishment, time and effort. The result may not win and prizes, but it’s yours. Curiously my worst area is the leather in the rear, but I now know where I can buy the leather.
Absolutely wicked your herd of landsharks😊! Hilarious your edited Porsche commercials😅! The 928 is such a special car to me, everytime I see one in public ( once or twice a year) I always turn my head not to miss anything. No other car brings the X factor the 928 has. Good luck with yours!
Nice video. Thank you. I own a 928s vom 1981; as you say, always needs good mantainance. Fortunately, I have a cheap and good mechanic, without I couldn´t afford this car. Most problems I have is with used and old electric parts (as Windows openers, switches, fuel pump, all kind of lights...). But I feel 20 years younger behind the steering wheel!! And not every purchase has to make sense, we enjoie this car! Markus from Germany, not far away where these cars were built.
Late to your channel, but totally enjoyed it! I inherited a 1983 5spd 944 from my father-in-law, which isn’t a 928, but your description of an enjoyable old-school car resonates with my driving experiences. Yes, a seemingly load of upkeep maintenance, but it’s not a modern car. Keep those lovely 928’s on the road!
Hi, I am Andreas from Germany and I actually have a 928 S4 1988 running and another one for spare parts. Years ago I had a 1993 GTS but sold that as I accidently bought the S4 at an auction :-) just like you did. Then I felt that the older S4 was more a sports car than the GTS and sold it. Bytheway the GTS took 1 liter oil for 1.000km, so the motor needed a revision which I did not want to invest. Today I also drive the most beautiful Boxster which is a 986 S from 2003. Thank you for your videos… I am so exited how the electric 928 will be finally done. Best regards, Andreas
I had one on my bedroom wall as a teenager in the 80s. I am now tasked by a mate, who is transitioning to aged care, to sell his 1986 928 5l auto. I have yet to see it let alone drive it and will be going to his property next week when the keys to everything arrive by mail. get to unlock the 20x10 shed, take off the car cover and re-connect the battery and see if it will start for me.
It started first go. drive wonderfully, the sonorous induction noise is addictive. Just need to fix the Front indicators and I think I have sold it for early $30ks and I have a heap of invoices from Bruce as it was originally a Sydney car.
As an 9 year old in the late 70’s I was smitten by this strange car in my matchbox car catalog . Been smitten ever since, only owned toy versions :) ( a 1:18 white one in my office) The purchase price is not the issue, I fear it would be everything after that point, my fussy self would expect it to be perfect like it was built yesterday . Congrats on living the dream - cheers from Buderim
TR (I'm guessing) I realise you're perfectionists in your business, but you'll just have to accept that there will always be something that needs doing and something that doesn't need doing but annoys you anyway. With that acceptance comes inner peace. Then you'll be ready. I think you should get one. Face it, in a world that's getting more ugly by the day they're only going to get more beautiful over time.
I have only one recollection of the 928 from the early 1980’s, a white car was being parked in a very tight yard, very competently. Lovely car. Very lovely driver too.
Great content, I’m enjoying my 89 S4 Auto, with a ‘Greg Brown’ modified shift speed (who knew what one spring could do!). I am very glad you did not drive into a giant rock on those old tyres, have you not heard of Paul Walker? Is that a ‘Twin Dizzy” Euro spec engine?
The first 928 I saw in real life was at Art Bunker Porsche+Audi in Kansas City in 1979. Black with Tan interior. I remember thinking how low the car was and how wide the P7's were (at that time). A friend of a friend got one in 1981 when he was 17. An 84 year old lady in my town bought a brand new red 928. People don't believe that story but I knew her.
As a lucky kid my dad silently flipped his old vw bug into a brand new ‘73 911T one day and drove into the driveway making that strange noise I was 13 Later we did a lot of driving and I wished I was in this other Porsche The 928’s I got grown and bought one ‘79 manual (no roof) in teal with loud exhaust and the big phone dials Love it and could care less about that flat six bang My daughter drove it at 11yrs old in a parking lot and she was supposed to just bring it to a stop Instead she pulls into a stall between cars and drops the clutch car stops with engine idling in gear First timers OMG 😮 I was proud papa 💯
Not really. Just taking advantage of relatively depressed 928 prices. You could buy 6 of them for one pristine old air-cooled 911. 928s are grossly undervalued, or maybe old 911s are grossly overvalued.
We love 928s for their distinctive shape and attention to smooth, subtle surfacing. The 911s used to be like that but have morphed into bloated luxury racers that cost far too much. The 28 need not compete, they are great as pets, sitting in their garages looking up waiting for us to come down and rub their heads. I love these cars as much today as I did in 1979 when I first drove one.
I bought a 1 owner, manual, 1982 4.5 litre in 1999, 21,000km original kms and original paint, the rubber on the original tyres were so hard they had no grip at all. Not a lot of horsepower, but a wonderful GT car, so comfortable and balanced, with looks that are timeless, I owned that car for about 8 yrs and it virtually had nothing go wrong with it. My current 2017 911 is way faster, but no where near as comfortable. Your car's condition is very similar to the one I had, almost like new. Good buy.
Understood, but there's a reason so many sold were automatics. Not that the automatic is particularly notable, but that the early manual Getrag gearbox isn't very engaging (excuse the pun). It's a bit slow and fussy and you shouldn't punch it through in a hurry. But still good fun.
What a great video, Stu. Thanks for sharing with us. Beautiful cars and a great outcome for the road trip home. On the state of the market and values: Yeah, it is unfortunate but there really are still too many rubbish examples floating around. Most of these are better off being parted out and as the years go on we will be seeing less and less of them. The sooner the better. You will see the odd comment from someone who doesn't know these cars, and they think a decent runner can be had cheap. Oh boy...I've said it before, but a 928 looking and running as it should be is a 50k car minimum. People don't understand that. There is no cheap 928, it's a trap!
Thank you. You're absolutely right. No such thing as a cheap 928. I've made a list of the faults with my new car - about 20 that I have identified so far and they are all relatively minor. It will be my pleasure to attend to them one by one.
Great video Stu. I have one of the oldest surviving Australian delivered 928s being a 79 Hamilton's melbourne delivery. Gp white with cork pinstripe interior , auto and sunroof delete. Gets more attention at most car shows than other Porsches.
Congrats Stu. Manual 928s are something very special, there are times that I wish I still had my GT. Filling up with fuel would hurt a lot though and I doubt I’d be as keen to use it as a daily driver. Btw, pretty sure that was a Merc not a Roller that was overtaken in the commercial ;)
Thanks Mark, but I can tell you the gearbox is very unlike the one in your 928GT. I'm finding to get the gears to slip in effortlessly I have to double-shuffle down the box, not just rev matching. And yes, that probably was a big old Merc. Not a fan of that style of overtaking. Isn't it funny how so many things you see that would never make it into a modern commercial. Like the massive lockup in the mud. And the dress sense. Socks and sandals!
I own a 1983 928S black on black 5 speed with BBS wheels It has been supercharged by 928 Motorsport of Wisconsin . Very beautiful, very fast and wins trophies at car shows. ..Make sure to use the correct transmission fluid !
I've had some really great cars growing up , A Lotus Elan S4 was my first foray into performance prior to that I had a Triumph TR4IRS witch was ok .I sold the Elan and bought an E Type Jag Series 1 3.8 and thought it was a good car but I guess the need for speed was diminishing because of marriage .... Devorce sent me to a midlife crisis and bought a 79 manual Porsche ..... The Car was the best thing ever .....
While you are quite right about the clean sheet of paper design, I have found that an awful lot of components are also used on other vehicles from the time. Hunting for the alternatives can be very rewarding. Twenty years back I took mine on a newly mown hay field, there was still a fair bit of hay that missed the baler. I let a friends daughter drive it round the field. She loved it. Later I was showing the car to petrol head friend. We opened the bonnet to find no engine at all! The fan had hoovered up the hay and stuffed the top of the engine bay completely. I’m very glad it didn’t catch fire but the hay took a lot of removing.
lucky indeed, I was at an AROCA Vic motorkhana practising the handbrake turn - Alfetta 2.0 sedan. Brakes got so hot that as i drove along, the grass was being lite behind me. Local CFA came and put it out 10m from a house being built...I think I still won the event 🤛 @@inCARnationAustralia
Well the Porsche MG is a long way from finished. Right now I am almost always driving my old Skoda to and from the workshop. But if it's good, I'd like the Porsche-MG to be my daily driver. The poor 5-speed is hardly getting any attention at the moment
Hello Stuart. Thank you for this entertaining video. I own an 84 and 86 928, both 5 speeds, and i must say i enjoy the added 50 hp of the 5L over the 4.7. My only complaint with the manual is having to adjust the clutch. I have done it many times and never failed to hate it. As i hit 65 it is even less enjoyable without a vehicle lift. However my wife and i love to ride in it. She really prefers it. We just test drove a Cayman and we both said, “No Way”. So we are keeping the 928. Thank you for the entertaining overdubs, your German accent is spot on! 😀😀 All the best from the States. Carry on.
Thanks Stan. There seems to be a higher prevalence of 5-speeds in the US compared to Australia, which I didn't expect given how the US loves its automatics. But good for you! I actually love the way the Cayman drives, especially the manual gearbox - so nimble and precise - but it doesn't have the deep voice John Wayne 'swagger' of the 928 does it.
Looks hella fun. I just bought an 83 944 w 25 year old Michelin tires. Hard as rocks. Lowered the psi , did a couple donuts for the rears and slid around some turns to scrub off the dried out rubber. Much better after. The 928's a little more squirrely than I thought it was. Definitely more squirrely than a 944
The Portsea car...great buy. Disagree about sunroofs, they are great, very useable. Any 30plus year old car is likely to need hoses, electrics sorted. My S4 is not expensive to maintain as its always been maintained... they need 600/350lb [best compromise] springs or 1000/650 like mine has. transforms the handling, correctly valved shocks means it rides well too. Cup928 spec
Most parts are pretty available, some are really cheap though others are a bit eye watering. Parts for LHD cars are often cheaper as more were built- eg the price of a replacement coolant expansion tank for RHD cars got so expensive that companies started making nice aluminium ones. The LHD version remained cheap to replace.
Hey Stu, great to know that there are 3 x 928's living in our suburb! Always loved these. Also Matt at Koyaworks is a top lad! Thanks for the intro. Bring the petrol blue 928 down to St.Ives for the autobrunch on 1st Oct. Cheers Steve
That sounds really good when you get on it. Very nice car the 944 and 928 or two of my favorite Porsches the 944 just because well it's a cool f****** car the 928 because of Tom Cruise in Risky Business Porsche there is no substitute !!!
great video with the edited 928 ad's with your comments, which makes it funny also : keep on the good work 🙂 i am restoring an 928 S4 manual at the moment, i feel the pain with mainteance after it stood for 17yrs... but it's almost done, curious how it drives and if i like the driveability ! untill that time i can drive my other oldites and the most my 944 : i just love the transaxle models, much more drivable than every (old) 911 i ever had.
So happy for you. She looks beautiful in what resembles nail varnish blue. Will Enjoy when you bring the 928 for full inspection to your local friendly Porsche garage.
I was born in 1978 and I want a car at some point that is linked to me. A 78 911 would be good especially as that’s when they started galvanising the chassis. But this could fit the bill
Another great video as I now own my first 928, a nice '82 4.5lt Auto, this inspires me to keep on going and pouring money in to the bottomless pit of need Keep these great video's coming
One Porker is never enough but three or is it four 928’s? You must have won the lottery. Nice to see one doing what it was designed to do, long distances albeit at the dumb speed limits in Oz. Congratulations, I’m jealous.
Well as you might know I've started the conversion of an old one that was too far gone to ever be considered, previously known as Percy and now known as Basketcase. There are 9 episodes so far on the channel. My cars are too nice and original to consider for EV conversion. The trick would be to find one with good body, not much rust, nice interior but a trashed motor and/or drivetrain. Maybe a car that's had intermingling in the radiator or a snapped cam or broken cam belt. So if I were to do a second conversion I'd start with a better donor car than the one I bought, which needs (and will get) a lot of new standard Porsche parts - brakes, suspension.
Looks like you've got yourself a keeper there. I'd be interested to see what tyres you end up fitting, I'm in the same situation, ten year old tyres with plenty of tread left but bugger all grip.😊
I'm a fan of Michelin Pilot Sport 4. (I don't think the 5 comes in an appropriate size for me) They seem to be out of stock everywhere in standard size 225/50/16. 16" rims were once considered outrageously large but are hard to get a good range of sporty tyres for. ContisportContact I'd also like but same story - can't find stock anywhere. I recently fitted relatively inexpensive Yokohama Advan Fleva V701 in 225/50/16 to one of the other 928s and I haven't pushed them enough to comment yet, nor driven them in the wet. They seem quiet enough and pretty OK but I doubt they'll be a match for a good Michelin. The PZero Rosso Asimmetrico is undoubtedly good but a bit too expensive. I've also had good experience with some of the better Kumho and Hankook in the past so I'd consider them. Bridgestone RE003 is popular but I doubt I'll go back to them again.
+1 for Michelin PS4/5 damp roads drive like dry, I have had them on SV6, Subaru and Megane RS Cup 265, couldn't quite justify or afford to try the 4S @@inCARnationAustralia
I bought two from Lloyds, one from CollectingCars. For selling, I have had good experience with Shannons, but they only will list special vehicles, usually unmodified. I've also bought from Shannons, Grays, Manheim and Pickles. If you're buying, you don't really get to choose a favourite.
My neighbor who has a few porsches bought a 928 and the engine caught fire in his garage. He asked me to fix it, but honestly I knew nothing about them. I much prefer the look of the 944. I think all porsches are too hard to work on they are not designed well for doing maintenance or repairs. My boxster you need a car lift to do anything to it. My 914 not much better. A FWD car is so much easier to work on.
I have a 944S2 but had considered purchasing a 928 before deciding one might be more difficult to work on and significantly more expensive to refurbish. Thoughts?
A lot of things will be similar costs, but from my experience with both the 928 would be more expensive. Not hugely, but a bit. Just a bit more of everything with extra complexity. But some of the issues are common to both - the 944 engine being basically one bank of the 928 (although very few parts are interchangeable). You'll still have the same issue with, for example, fire. With perished fuel and power steering lines, etc. Interior refurb cost would be similar, etc
I have an offer to buy a 1981 porsche 928 S with 150,000 miles on it, price is not bad, interior its awesome ..just like new, but wheels and sterring wheel are not original....considereing the age of the car, would you recommend buying it? I am aware of maintenance will be expensive.
Wheels and steering wheel are easily changed if that's important to you. All I can suggest is get somebody knowledgeable about 928s (not just 911s) to inspect it. It's a buyer's market. Interiors are the hardest thing to fix, so that's a big plus. Good luck
Beautiful timeless cars. I bought a manual 89 928 S4 from the junkyard a while back thinking I was going to restore it but came across a much better driving example, an 88 S4. The auto transmission was slipping though so ended up using the manual trans from the 89 on it and took some parts off and junked the rest. Always good to have several of these for parts for the best one if you have the space for it... Made a little TH-cam short of my 88 here... th-cam.com/users/shortsYjuvBEcuRz8
@@cykwong777 Actually that one was bought through CollectingCars, and I think I was very fortunate and got it at an unrepresentative price. Collectingcars are unusual in that you can check on their website to see all previous sales together with prices both in Australia and overseas, so please check it there.
@@inCARnationAustraliaI landed on your page as serious bug to get a 928... I live in the UK, the cars here have the added risk of corrosion, plus, I am well over 6ft tall.... can't shake the bug though, caused by being given a Remote Controlled 928 as a kid in the early 80s (that is sat in my study) and loving them since
I'm in Sydney too. Down the track I will, but I'm still fixing little things, getting them just how I want them. I'll certainly keep at least one indefinitely. Suggest you email me and let me know what you're looking for. stuartgreaves928@gmail.com
Hi, I love your videos. I’m coming to Sydney next March on the Royal Caribbean world cruise and I would love to see your 928 collection. If that is at all possible.
Sorry, TH-cam, of course never sent me a notification. I just came back to check your video and I saw that you replied so thanks for the reply. And I will be in Sydney on March 8 but I’ll talk to you on your email but thanks again for replying. Look forward to seeing you.
hi, I had talked to you a couple months ago about being on the road cruise coming through Sydney and I sent an email to your email address, but I never got a reply. the day we arrive in Sydney is March 8 if you are still interested in meeting me
Hey everyone. Something that's happened before. A debate started about the correct pronunciation of Porsch/Porsche/Porscha and it started to get a bit heated with people speaking to each other in a way they probably wouldn't do in person. This is meant to be a entertainment video not an exercise in one-upmanship. So if you don't like my German pronunciation in the fake commercial I recorded in the middle, sorry. I do speak German reasonably well but I also know it's still considered pretentious in many English speaking countries to pronounce the word Porsche 'correctly'. So I pitch to the audience and sometimes flatten the last 'e'. The last thing I need is (notably, Americans) correcting or rebuking me. Verstehen? So if you feel like leaving a comment with the intention to start an arguments between strangers, then go watch another channel. Cheers Stu. Einen schönen Tag noch
Just pronounce it the way that suits you, if you really want to get the purists fizzing at the bung hole just open up the good old "nine twety eight" debate😂
@@davidwebster5258 Did you notice I did pour some kerosene on that fire with that exact discussion @ 19:02? Very proud of my finest German accent voice-over on the old TV commercial. Yes, that was me doing both voices. And I'd really appreciate some native German speaker critiquing my accent there - is it clear and intelligible? Somebody please leave a comment. (You can be critical but please be nice - too much flaming already)
I used to work with a German fellow, and pronounced it PORSCH-E, but they'll always be PORSCHA to me❤
Loved the video! I bought my first 928 in 97', a white 79 manual with matching white telephone wheels. Sold it early 2001 and bought an 85' S (auto unfortunately). In 2010, after assurance from my mechanic that "it would love it", I threw my golf clubs into the back and headed across the Nullabor from Perth to Melbourne via the Great Ocean Road. He was right, it did love it........and so did I, even more so. What a drive!!! Whilst in Melbourne, I had a look at a 1990 black 928GT. I wouldn't even rate myself half sensible, so of course I bought it. I freighted it back to Perth on the train, and after a couple of weeks of golf, headed back west in the 85' S. There is only one thing better than driving the GOR in a 928, and that's doing it again in reverse (not literally). The "S" didn't miss a beat during that 7000km plus trip, pure driving joy. I sold the "S" in 2019 after 19 years (like selling a child). The GT is a magnificent car. The manual gearbox allows total engagement with the vehicle, you become it, and it becomes you. There are no plans to sell the GT, how could I? Long live the 928!!!!
Wow. Your road trips make mine look like a short blat around the block to grab some groceries from Aldi. Great to hear from a true long-time landshark afficionado. Congrats on your cars. I presume you'd agree about how much better the 928GT box is than the early 5 speed.
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Great video!
Regarding the 5 speeds. I have owned a 1989 GT and now have a 1979 manual. To me I like the early 5 speed better. It suits the "brute" feel of the car better than the GT 5 speed which I think has "too short" throws.
Maybe look into a refurb of your manual and try different oil.
They are not fast shifting but great feeling, atleat my -79.
"like selling a child. "
I felt the same way when I sold it. :(
i read long ago that Porsche created the Triptronic Automatic... because Americans kept shifting at 3000rpms like a Chevy, LOL
When I bought my 84 928s back in May of 2015 i drove it around San Diego for around an hour in town and on the freeway before I began the 1379 mile trip back to my house in the Dallas Texas area. Since it is an 84 I was playing songs from 1984 the whole way. Lots of fun going full blast at night across the Arizona and new Mexico desert with the song I can't drive 55 at full volume. Long road trip in a newly bought car to me will always be the best way to bond with your car. Saw 928s in Europe when I was stationed in Germany in the mid 80s and always wanted one. Mine is guards red with tan aka champagne interior. Always loved the styling of the s model the best with the subtle black spoilers. As you said beautiful and elegant.
When I was a kid all my mates had posters of Lambo's on their walls, I had a 928.
Sexiest and my favourite car EVER!👍👍
STILL a smart choice. At these levels (power train, the lower cost is just a bonus), a well driven 928 will roast a Lambo with Yuppie on Board...off track
Bravo! Finally someone explained a 928 as the top of the line. Flagship. Seven years of Porschedevelopment.
Only sports car ever to win European "Car" of the year. the 928 also set two Bonneville Salt Flats fastest production car land speed records. Its a movie star (Risky Business, Weird Science, Scar Face) and a Poster Super Car of the 1980s. Frankly, the 911 is the poorman's 928.
Dude- they made it thru 1995! The fastest ones being 93-95! So- you may as well say 90's TOO$
great video! the Porsche 928 will be the next car I buy. I look forward to becoming part of the community!
I hope you get a good one bro, unfortunately owning a 928 will only be a dream for me now
Don't slam the boot! 🤣
I have a US 1978 Porsche 928, silver metallic with black/blue pasha interior, 103k miles, manual, and no sun roof.
I'm still restoring it, slowly. It's taking a long time because I keep running out of money.
Somehow this popped up on my watch list so I clicked. Totally enjoyed it. will def watch more of your content. I worked at Porsche dealership in the 1990s and we had several 928 in Stock, many sat in basement storage for months, if not years before they sold. The GTS was a weapon, and these came and went in heartbeats. But those S2 S4 models with 3 speed Autos would be there forever. they just fell out of love with the Porshe crowd. We had to constantly charge them up every few months. The 928 always had a special following. Same as the 944 and 968. But when you could buy a 911Sc for 45k we struggled to get 25k for a 928. I still say to this day they had the best GT seats of any car i driven. They seem to have come into their own now 45 years later. Only the Brave buy old 928. Makes for good content.
Brilliant 928 collection and video mate.
I have always felt that the 928 is the best Porsche ever made simply beautiful and the V-8 engine! The smooth chrome rims. I wish I could’ve ever afford one, but I’ve been in love with them all my life.
I hope you get one.
If you are really that keen, I decided what I could afford and bought relatively cheaply. The pundits are right, they can be expensive, but as long as everything is there, you can go a long way with careful refurbishment, time and effort. The result may not win and prizes, but it’s yours. Curiously my worst area is the leather in the rear, but I now know where I can buy the leather.
Absolutely wicked your herd of landsharks😊! Hilarious your edited Porsche commercials😅! The 928 is such a special car to me, everytime I see one in public ( once or twice a year) I always turn my head not to miss anything. No other car brings the X factor the 928 has. Good luck with yours!
7:50 it is an absolute masterpiece! So gorgeous. I bet it will be even MORE breathtakingly beautiful in 20 years
Thanks. Wait until you see the electric 928 I'm building - heretic that I am. If you haven't seen the story so far, check the channel.
Nice video. Thank you. I own a 928s vom 1981; as you say, always needs good mantainance. Fortunately, I have a cheap and good mechanic, without I couldn´t afford this car. Most problems I have is with used and old electric parts (as Windows openers, switches, fuel pump, all kind of lights...). But I feel 20 years younger behind the steering wheel!! And not every purchase has to make sense, we enjoie this car! Markus from Germany, not far away where these cars were built.
Danke Markus. And a bass player as well. Bonus points!
Late to your channel, but totally enjoyed it! I inherited a 1983 5spd 944 from my father-in-law, which isn’t a 928, but your description of an enjoyable old-school car resonates with my driving experiences. Yes, a seemingly load of upkeep maintenance, but it’s not a modern car. Keep those lovely 928’s on the road!
Hi, I am Andreas from Germany and I actually have a 928 S4 1988 running and another one for spare parts. Years ago I had a 1993 GTS but sold that as I accidently bought the S4 at an auction :-) just like you did. Then I felt that the older S4 was more a sports car than the GTS and sold it. Bytheway the GTS took 1 liter oil for 1.000km, so the motor needed a revision which I did not want to invest. Today I also drive the most beautiful Boxster which is a 986 S from 2003. Thank you for your videos… I am so exited how the electric 928 will be finally done. Best regards, Andreas
I had one on my bedroom wall as a teenager in the 80s. I am now tasked by a mate, who is transitioning to aged care, to sell his 1986 928 5l auto. I have yet to see it let alone drive it and will be going to his property next week when the keys to everything arrive by mail. get to unlock the 20x10 shed, take off the car cover and re-connect the battery and see if it will start for me.
It started first go. drive wonderfully, the sonorous induction noise is addictive. Just need to fix the Front indicators and I think I have sold it for early $30ks and I have a heap of invoices from Bruce as it was originally a Sydney car.
6:14 good gawd that engine sounds as good as the body of the car looks
As an 9 year old in the late 70’s I was smitten by this strange car in my matchbox car catalog . Been smitten ever since, only owned toy versions :) ( a 1:18 white one in my office) The purchase price is not the issue, I fear it would be everything after that point, my fussy self would expect it to be perfect like it was built yesterday . Congrats on living the dream - cheers from Buderim
TR (I'm guessing) I realise you're perfectionists in your business, but you'll just have to accept that there will always be something that needs doing and something that doesn't need doing but annoys you anyway. With that acceptance comes inner peace. Then you'll be ready. I think you should get one. Face it, in a world that's getting more ugly by the day they're only going to get more beautiful over time.
I have only one recollection of the 928 from the early 1980’s, a white car was being parked in a very tight yard, very competently. Lovely car. Very lovely driver too.
Great content, I’m enjoying my 89 S4 Auto, with a ‘Greg Brown’ modified shift speed (who knew what one spring could do!). I am very glad you did not drive into a giant rock on those old tyres, have you not heard of Paul Walker? Is that a ‘Twin Dizzy” Euro spec engine?
Yes my '84 is a twin-dizzy. All my cars are Australian delivered cars and thus ROW (Euro) spec. Alas poor Paul Walker. And James Dean.
My dream was to always own a 928, but unfortunately I'll probably never get the chance...ALWAYS MY DREAM CAR!❤
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The first 928 I saw in real life was at Art Bunker Porsche+Audi in Kansas City in 1979. Black with Tan interior. I remember thinking how low the car was and how wide the P7's were (at that time). A friend of a friend got one in 1981 when he was 17. An 84 year old lady in my town bought a brand new red 928. People don't believe that story but I knew her.
As a lucky kid my dad silently flipped his old vw bug into a brand new ‘73 911T one day and drove into the driveway making that strange noise
I was 13
Later we did a lot of driving and I wished I was in this other Porsche
The 928’s
I got grown and bought one ‘79 manual (no roof) in teal with loud exhaust and the big phone dials
Love it and could care less about that flat six bang
My daughter drove it at 11yrs old in a parking lot and she was supposed to just bring it to a stop
Instead she pulls into a stall between cars and drops the clutch car stops with engine idling in gear
First timers OMG 😮
I was proud papa 💯
Not bonckers but flippin wealthy apparently!
Not really. Just taking advantage of relatively depressed 928 prices. You could buy 6 of them for one pristine old air-cooled 911. 928s are grossly undervalued, or maybe old 911s are grossly overvalued.
We love 928s for their distinctive shape and attention to smooth, subtle surfacing. The 911s used to be like that but have morphed into bloated luxury racers that cost far too much. The 28 need not compete, they are great as pets, sitting in their garages looking up waiting for us to come down and rub their heads. I love these cars as much today as I did in 1979 when I first drove one.
I bought a 1 owner, manual, 1982 4.5 litre in 1999, 21,000km original kms and original paint, the rubber on the original tyres were so hard they had no grip at all. Not a lot of horsepower, but a wonderful GT car, so comfortable and balanced, with looks that are timeless, I owned that car for about 8 yrs and it virtually had nothing go wrong with it. My current 2017 911 is way faster, but no where near as comfortable. Your car's condition is very similar to the one I had, almost like new. Good buy.
This was an unobtainable supercar for most when new. Great to see they can still be enjoyed, it would have to be manual or nothing for me
Understood, but there's a reason so many sold were automatics. Not that the automatic is particularly notable, but that the early manual Getrag gearbox isn't very engaging (excuse the pun). It's a bit slow and fussy and you shouldn't punch it through in a hurry. But still good fun.
Love the car, bur that suitcase sloshing around in the back would have driven me mad 😂
What a great video, Stu. Thanks for sharing with us. Beautiful cars and a great outcome for the road trip home.
On the state of the market and values: Yeah, it is unfortunate but there really are still too many rubbish examples floating around. Most of these are better off being parted out and as the years go on we will be seeing less and less of them. The sooner the better.
You will see the odd comment from someone who doesn't know these cars, and they think a decent runner can be had cheap. Oh boy...I've said it before, but a 928 looking and running as it should be is a 50k car minimum. People don't understand that. There is no cheap 928, it's a trap!
Thank you. You're absolutely right. No such thing as a cheap 928. I've made a list of the faults with my new car - about 20 that I have identified so far and they are all relatively minor. It will be my pleasure to attend to them one by one.
Great video Stu. I have one of the oldest surviving Australian delivered 928s being a 79 Hamilton's melbourne delivery. Gp white with cork pinstripe interior , auto and sunroof delete. Gets more attention at most car shows than other Porsches.
Congrats Stu. Manual 928s are something very special, there are times that I wish I still had my GT. Filling up with fuel would hurt a lot though and I doubt I’d be as keen to use it as a daily driver.
Btw, pretty sure that was a Merc not a Roller that was overtaken in the commercial ;)
Thanks Mark, but I can tell you the gearbox is very unlike the one in your 928GT. I'm finding to get the gears to slip in effortlessly I have to double-shuffle down the box, not just rev matching.
And yes, that probably was a big old Merc. Not a fan of that style of overtaking. Isn't it funny how so many things you see that would never make it into a modern commercial. Like the massive lockup in the mud. And the dress sense. Socks and sandals!
I own a 1983 928S black on black 5 speed with BBS wheels It has been supercharged by 928 Motorsport of Wisconsin . Very beautiful, very fast and wins trophies at car shows. ..Make sure to use the correct transmission fluid !
I've had some really great cars growing up , A Lotus Elan S4 was my first foray into performance prior to that I had a Triumph TR4IRS witch was ok .I sold the Elan and bought an E Type Jag Series 1 3.8 and thought it was a good car but I guess the need for speed was diminishing because of marriage .... Devorce sent me to a midlife crisis and bought a 79 manual Porsche ..... The Car was the best thing ever .....
I particularly enjoyed the duck to seagull sounds transition
While you are quite right about the clean sheet of paper design, I have found that an awful lot of components are also used on other vehicles from the time. Hunting for the alternatives can be very rewarding. Twenty years back I took mine on a newly mown hay field, there was still a fair bit of hay that missed the baler. I let a friends daughter drive it round the field. She loved it. Later I was showing the car to petrol head friend. We opened the bonnet to find no engine at all! The fan had hoovered up the hay and stuffed the top of the engine bay completely. I’m very glad it didn’t catch fire but the hay took a lot of removing.
You made me laugh out loud. You were indeed lucky it didn't catch fire. Great story.
lucky indeed, I was at an AROCA Vic motorkhana practising the handbrake turn - Alfetta 2.0 sedan. Brakes got so hot that as i drove along, the grass was being lite behind me. Local CFA came and put it out 10m from a house being built...I think I still won the event 🤛 @@inCARnationAustralia
Great video, first time pommie watcher, i am starting to look for one right niw! Thanks for sharing your love, knowledge, enthusiasm and realism!
Awesome manual 928 - well done! Which are you gonna drive now though, the manual beast or the MG?
Well the Porsche MG is a long way from finished. Right now I am almost always driving my old Skoda to and from the workshop. But if it's good, I'd like the Porsche-MG to be my daily driver. The poor 5-speed is hardly getting any attention at the moment
My 1986 Porsche 928S 32 valves manual original clutch lasted 160000 miles. Also have a short shifter and the Limited slip deferential.
Great style, banter and humour, as well as good tech. facts Thanks
Hello Stuart. Thank you for this entertaining video. I own an 84 and 86 928, both 5 speeds, and i must say i enjoy the added 50 hp of the 5L over the 4.7. My only complaint with the manual is having to adjust the clutch. I have done it many times and never failed to hate it. As i hit 65 it is even less enjoyable without a vehicle lift. However my wife and i love to ride in it. She really prefers it. We just test drove a Cayman and we both said, “No Way”. So we are keeping the 928. Thank you for the entertaining overdubs, your German accent is spot on! 😀😀 All the best from the States. Carry on.
Thanks Stan. There seems to be a higher prevalence of 5-speeds in the US compared to Australia, which I didn't expect given how the US loves its automatics. But good for you! I actually love the way the Cayman drives, especially the manual gearbox - so nimble and precise - but it doesn't have the deep voice John Wayne 'swagger' of the 928 does it.
Looks hella fun.
I just bought an 83 944 w 25 year old Michelin tires. Hard as rocks.
Lowered the psi , did a couple donuts for the rears and slid around some turns to scrub off the dried out rubber.
Much better after.
The 928's a little more squirrely than I thought it was. Definitely more squirrely than a 944
The Portsea car...great buy. Disagree about sunroofs, they are great, very useable. Any 30plus year old car is likely to need hoses, electrics sorted. My S4 is not expensive to maintain as its always been maintained... they need 600/350lb [best compromise] springs or 1000/650 like mine has. transforms the handling, correctly valved shocks means it rides well too. Cup928 spec
Brilliant, very informative video! Thanks and cheers from Broken Hill...
Congratulations, a lovely car, all the best with it.
A great video too.
Always liked the 928. Hesitant due to parts.
Availability or price?
Most parts are pretty available, some are really cheap though others are a bit eye watering. Parts for LHD cars are often cheaper as more were built- eg the price of a replacement coolant expansion tank for RHD cars got so expensive that companies started making nice aluminium ones. The LHD version remained cheap to replace.
Hey Stu, great to know that there are 3 x 928's living in our suburb! Always loved these. Also Matt at Koyaworks is a top lad! Thanks for the intro. Bring the petrol blue 928 down to St.Ives for the autobrunch on 1st Oct. Cheers Steve
Already in the diary Steve. See you there.
You're a funny bugger! Great video, wish I could afford a 928 S4...really unique Porsche
Great looking manual,,I too have the BUG ,,I have a few to keep me busy here in the uk,,if you need supplies let me know
Happy to hear you buying what feels right. Congrats!
That sounds really good when you get on it. Very nice car the 944 and 928 or two of my favorite Porsches the 944 just because well it's a cool f****** car the 928 because of Tom Cruise in Risky Business Porsche there is no substitute !!!
great video with the edited 928 ad's with your comments, which makes it funny also : keep on the good work 🙂
i am restoring an 928 S4 manual at the moment, i feel the pain with mainteance after it stood for 17yrs...
but it's almost done, curious how it drives and if i like the driveability ! untill that time i can drive my other oldites and the most my 944 : i just love the transaxle models, much more drivable than every (old) 911 i ever had.
So happy for you. She looks beautiful in what resembles nail varnish blue. Will Enjoy when you bring the 928 for full inspection to your local friendly Porsche garage.
Thanks. Be interesting to see what Bruce thinks of the new additions.
I am doing a 928 S4 electric powered modification at the moment. In NZ.
Are you indeed Kit? That's fantastic. Can I give you a call or email to find out more? Pop me an email at stuartgreaves928@gmail.com please
Don’t slam the boot 🤣🤣🤣🤣, I can hear my father’s voice yelling at my mum
Carlos Sainz engages Latino mode, I engage dad mode
Stu,
Great video,
One 928 is never enough! I have a S4 , but looking at getting a 84/85 manual as well!
Cheers Jon
Well done! Great vid, envious of the manual as it is a beautiful 928, great spec and colour. From a 928 owner from over the ditch
I just got an 83 5 speed 944
1 owner.
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But I love the 928s too
That petrol blue one😱💙 all colours are gorgeous on this car! I miss Australia too. New sub
Great video. Cool car. 🤟🏽
I was born in 1978 and I want a car at some point that is linked to me. A 78 911 would be good especially as that’s when they started galvanising the chassis. But this could fit the bill
Another great video :) lots of good info
brilliant stuff, underrated tube😅
my mate is doing a electic 928,might be fun
Another great video as I now own my first 928, a nice '82 4.5lt Auto, this inspires me to keep on going and pouring money in to the bottomless pit of need
Keep these great video's coming
Fabulous car !
One Porker is never enough but three or is it four 928’s? You must have won the lottery. Nice to see one doing what it was designed to do, long distances albeit at the dumb speed limits in Oz. Congratulations, I’m jealous.
Just 3. But it looks like you have a truly modern car - a 981 so need to be jealous.
@@inCARnationAustralia Just one of four, a 718 S, Macan GTS, 1990 944 Turbo and a 1994 928 GTS. A very expensive disease.
Presumably there are a few candidates for EV conversion that haven’t had maintenance. What are your criteria if looking for a donor?
Well as you might know I've started the conversion of an old one that was too far gone to ever be considered, previously known as Percy and now known as Basketcase. There are 9 episodes so far on the channel. My cars are too nice and original to consider for EV conversion. The trick would be to find one with good body, not much rust, nice interior but a trashed motor and/or drivetrain. Maybe a car that's had intermingling in the radiator or a snapped cam or broken cam belt. So if I were to do a second conversion I'd start with a better donor car than the one I bought, which needs (and will get) a lot of new standard Porsche parts - brakes, suspension.
@@inCARnationAustralia cool will subscribe and follow
Looks like you've got yourself a keeper there.
I'd be interested to see what tyres you end up fitting, I'm in the same situation, ten year old tyres with plenty of tread left but bugger all grip.😊
I'm a fan of Michelin Pilot Sport 4. (I don't think the 5 comes in an appropriate size for me) They seem to be out of stock everywhere in standard size 225/50/16. 16" rims were once considered outrageously large but are hard to get a good range of sporty tyres for. ContisportContact I'd also like but same story - can't find stock anywhere. I recently fitted relatively inexpensive Yokohama Advan Fleva V701 in 225/50/16 to one of the other 928s and I haven't pushed them enough to comment yet, nor driven them in the wet. They seem quiet enough and pretty OK but I doubt they'll be a match for a good Michelin. The PZero Rosso Asimmetrico is undoubtedly good but a bit too expensive. I've also had good experience with some of the better Kumho and Hankook in the past so I'd consider them. Bridgestone RE003 is popular but I doubt I'll go back to them again.
+1 for Michelin PS4/5 damp roads drive like dry, I have had them on SV6, Subaru and Megane RS Cup 265, couldn't quite justify or afford to try the 4S
@@inCARnationAustralia
@ficarraclassic should swap parts!
You’re the best kind of crazy Stu. This is absolutely bonkers and I love it.
Which is your auction house of choice?
I bought two from Lloyds, one from CollectingCars. For selling, I have had good experience with Shannons, but they only will list special vehicles, usually unmodified. I've also bought from Shannons, Grays, Manheim and Pickles. If you're buying, you don't really get to choose a favourite.
@@inCARnationAustralia Great info, thanks Stu! I'll need to widen my search beyond the usual suspects then.
outstanding 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
So there’s a 1988 just come up 2 miles from me. Auto but dark blue and cream leather. 10 owners, £18.5k. Private sale.
Great. But don't follow my example. Get someone who knows what they're doing to have a look at it. Nothing wrong with an auto S4.
Totally understand the buying addiction…….
Indeed. Trivia question : How many bass guitars have you owned in your life? Me, less than ten over fifty years of playing
Just a few more lol @@inCARnationAustralia
Between a 924, 928, 944 (or any other similar one)… which one should one buy on a budget? And which year?
My neighbor who has a few porsches bought a 928 and the engine caught fire in his garage. He asked me to fix it, but honestly I knew nothing about them. I much prefer the look of the 944. I think all porsches are too hard to work on they are not designed well for doing maintenance or repairs. My boxster you need a car lift to do anything to it. My 914 not much better. A FWD car is so much easier to work on.
Im kind of like that with rx7s, but please don't tell the wife😂😂😂😂😂
Mrs Dudesrotary, HEY MRS DUDESROTARY, your hubby has a bunch of RX7s behind the shed you DON'T KNOW ABOUT! Just sayin'
Ditch the factory ecu, get a dynotune.
I have a 944S2 but had considered purchasing a 928 before deciding one might be more difficult to work on and significantly more expensive to refurbish. Thoughts?
A lot of things will be similar costs, but from my experience with both the 928 would be more expensive. Not hugely, but a bit. Just a bit more of everything with extra complexity. But some of the issues are common to both - the 944 engine being basically one bank of the 928 (although very few parts are interchangeable). You'll still have the same issue with, for example, fire. With perished fuel and power steering lines, etc. Interior refurb cost would be similar, etc
I would like to buy a few 928s
Overtaking a Rolls Royce? That was a Benz mate.👍
Yes thanks. Mea culpa... D'oh!
I have an offer to buy a 1981 porsche 928 S with 150,000 miles on it, price is not bad, interior its awesome ..just like new, but wheels and sterring wheel are not original....considereing the age of the car, would you recommend buying it? I am aware of maintenance will be expensive.
Wheels and steering wheel are easily changed if that's important to you. All I can suggest is get somebody knowledgeable about 928s (not just 911s) to inspect it. It's a buyer's market. Interiors are the hardest thing to fix, so that's a big plus. Good luck
Enjoy being bonkers, it’s good for your health… ❤😂
Beautiful timeless cars. I bought a manual 89 928 S4 from the junkyard a while back thinking I was going to restore it but came across a much better driving example, an 88 S4. The auto transmission was slipping though so ended up using the manual trans from the 89 on it and took some parts off and junked the rest. Always good to have several of these for parts for the best one if you have the space for it... Made a little TH-cam short of my 88 here... th-cam.com/users/shortsYjuvBEcuRz8
Thanks. I suspect you may have shared the TH-cam studio link (which doesn't work) rather than a public link.
weird... It definitely works. I just tried it on another browser that isn't logged in to TH-cam. Maybe it's an Australian / USA thing. :/
Hi Stu, which auction sites have you used to purchase your 928s ?
Mainly Lloyds Classic and Barn Find auctions, but I have also bought from Manheim, Pickles, Grays.
@@inCARnationAustralia Thanks for the info Stu. Do you mind sharing how much you paid for your manual 928?
@@cykwong777 Actually that one was bought through CollectingCars, and I think I was very fortunate and got it at an unrepresentative price. Collectingcars are unusual in that you can check on their website to see all previous sales together with prices both in Australia and overseas, so please check it there.
@@inCARnationAustralia ok thanks Stu. Hopefully i'll be lucky enough to land a good one! Cheers for the info and videos!
niceee
Is the first car in the thumbnail Petrol Blue?
Yes. And the second Hellblau.
I thought these cars were 15k 5-10 years ago
It's not so much the purchase of the cars, it's where do I park them?
You're right!
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14:52 - that's not a Rolls Royce :)
Yes noted. Merc. Sorry. My bad.
@@inCARnationAustraliaI landed on your page as serious bug to get a 928... I live in the UK, the cars here have the added risk of corrosion, plus, I am well over 6ft tall.... can't shake the bug though, caused by being given a Remote Controlled 928 as a kid in the early 80s (that is sat in my study) and loving them since
but you're an old man, and yet you make hand signs ( 2:01 ) blink and you miss it, with foreign cab driver approving
3 of the same car..... isnt that kinda like getting 2 clones of the wife....
Hmmm. Yes point taken
Rolls Royce ??? It’s a Mercedes😊
Citroen XM it’s a CX 😊
Noted. #reprimanded #redface
what do these rich you tube people's hand signs mean ? MISTER ILL UMINATI
Would you like to sell me one? 😅
I'm in Sydney but I'll travel
I'm in Sydney too. Down the track I will, but I'm still fixing little things, getting them just how I want them. I'll certainly keep at least one indefinitely. Suggest you email me and let me know what you're looking for. stuartgreaves928@gmail.com
@@inCARnationAustraliasent you an email! Cheers!
@@jacobneale3985 No email, and not in spam as far as I can see? Suggest you call or DM 0414928930
If only you could pronounce the word Porsche properly…..😂😂
read the pinned coment
Hi, I love your videos. I’m coming to Sydney next March on the Royal Caribbean world cruise and I would love to see your 928 collection. If that is at all possible.
Sure Lars. Hit me up when you get here. stuartgreaves928@gmail.com
Sorry, TH-cam, of course never sent me a notification. I just came back to check your video and I saw that you replied so thanks for the reply. And I will be in Sydney on March 8 but I’ll talk to you on your email but thanks again for replying. Look forward to seeing you.
hi, I had talked to you a couple months ago about being on the road cruise coming through Sydney and I sent an email to your email address, but I never got a reply. the day we arrive in Sydney is March 8 if you are still interested in meeting me