Welcome to 928 ownership, there are almost dozens of us! I'm almost positive those door inserts and steering wheel pad aren't factory- I have a spare burgundy horn pad laying around if you want.
My friend's dad had one when we were in high school. Of course it was off limits but his parents went away for a couple of weeks so of course we had to do it. Same colour combo as Hoovie's, but an earlier year with an auto. Didn't quite do a "Risky Business" but my friend managed to underestimate his speed/overestimate his braking distance. We slid right through a stop sign and into a farmer's field. Managed to get the car out undamaged and drove it home at about 20mph the whole way. Washed it, put it back exactly where his dad had parked it, and called it a night. The perfect crime. About two months later his dad took it in for brake service and the dealer found a tremendous amount of mud, grass, and even some lengths of barbed wire wrapped around the front suspension. Oops.
The styling of the 928 is just so sexy. I remember returning on a pizza delivery on a two lane road when one got behind me then passed me like I was sitting still.
I proudly owned and drove an 86 928s for two trouble free years. Criminally underrated cars, truly a ground up design. Yes repairs can hurt but in reality you just have to drive them. When old cars sit they break plain and simple. I miss mine every day. Great snag Hoovie!
Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
Exactly, your head is actually not under roof but rather a hatch window. Awesome cars, but look much better on cup1 or cup2 wheels. Much more aggressive and sporty look then.
@@amosy8345 I don't mind either of the original mirrors. Actually, I think the newer rounder mirrors suit the cars shape. Horses for courses I suppose. I like the 5 spoke GT wheels too. edit to add: Not that I dislike any of the standard 928 wheels.
I had one for 10 years. Great car. Expensive to repair. Electrics can be a nightmare. Good luck. Beautiful design. Drove across Europe in snow, no problem.
My bro-in-law had a green one in the late 1980’s. Yep, the electrics were a REAL nightmare that never got fixed. But his 2 small children liked it. They were 2 & 4 and fit perfectly into the 2 small backseats.
The 928 was the car that got me interested in Porsche! Sorry to say I’ve never owned one, but a plethora of 911’s over the years. I think I need one now🤔
Likewise for me. I still have the 928S4 foldout ad I pulled out of a mag when I was something like 6? I ended up buying a g body carrera instead. A manual trans 928S4 is on my short list. A GTS would be top choice, but I don't think I can afford one now.
The 928 S4 Just wakes up at 120mph!, I know I've owned 9 of them, Wish I could have kept them all, Only have one now, what a Pleasure to drive, People just don't get it? Hoovie, it takes a person like you to give the car the recognition it deserves! Thanks for the video.
I was a valet in weschester, NY and we regularly drove customers cars. My favorite was the 928 s4. i remember it like it was yesterday... Maybe you know the top speed. I have always said it was close to 165 mph... but now im not to sure..
Had an S4 manual as well as the last year GTS, also manual. Decent car, well balanced with good touring manners. Large and, well... it's LARGE. If you thought MG's and Fiat's are plagued with electrical issues. These render those 'simpleton machines'. The German's weren't very clever when they decided to put the space shuttle worthy array of relays, fuses and connectors in the ridiculous, underfoot, plywood board under the passengers feet. PLYWOOD. Remember, this was a $85k car. Was in Telluride as newlyweds on a ski trip and my wife couldn't help but saturate said electrical 'plank' with slush and snow. Upon starting, the dash warning lights illuminated in concert with the headlights, windshield wipers and washers having a mind of their own. Started down the hill towards the closest service station and we were greeted by thick smoke eminating from everywhere. Underfoot electrical plank, dash. Everywhere. Car was still new and had all of 2000 or so miles. Was transported to a dealership in Denver where it stayed for 19 days until parts came in. Repairs were done under warranty. As I recall the total was north of $15+k. It was plagued with electrical gremlins and I couldn't get rid of it fast enough. Traded it on a new Mercedes 500E. I believe they offered me $70k in trade against the MBZ. Best move ever. That car was everything the GTS was not. Just as fast and 2 extra doors.
Growing up in the late 80’s I had multiple Porsche enthusiasts on my street . One family loved the 944 and had multiple incarnations another family had the 911…. I lusted after the S4 the other neighbor drove. Love it !
Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
Stevie Nicks owned one exactly like this in the late ‘80’s. She ordered it after watching the movie Risky Business and liked the 928 in that so much she called the local Porsche dealer and ordered a pink one like this. (Yes, that’s pink, not red Tyler 😘) It was delivered to her driveway the next day with a red bow on it.
If you are interested in more info about the 928 I have several videos on my YT channel. Here is a really solid history of the 928. They are amazing cars! Enjoy! th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
I always loved this car! Even took a test drive and almost bought one from an acquaintance but the maintenance stories scared me away. Still one of my favorite designs of a car of all time. 👍👍
Reminds me of the two 928 Clarkson used in a couple of Top Gear challenges. 1) In the cheap Porsche challenge from 2004 he had a 928 from 1983. Can't remember what he paid but it was 1500£ or less. 2) In the Patagonia special from 2014 he had a newer 928 GT with the infamous registration "H982 FKL". Looking at todays prices one should have picked up a car or two back then.
Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
@@daviddandavid Indeed that really hit home. "And the truth is, if i hadnt been driving a car which could sit happily at 170mph, i wouldnt have had the opportunity to say goodbye to my dad. So as far as im concerned: the 928.. its alright"
This is my dream car. I'm not a big fan of all the other expensive exotics. I've loved the 928 since I first saw a picture of one in a car magazine in the 80's. I hope Hoovie keeps this for a long time. I hope to be able to afford one some day. The color is just absolutely gorgeous. If you now have a 928 your not that Dumb. Back when this car was conceived it was supposed to replace the 911. I'd take a 928 over any 911 anytime. Please keep up the good work. Thank you.
OMg! When I graduated secondary school (I guess it was highschool since I was in the states those years), in 1994, one of my graduation gifts was a 1995 928 GTS!! Loved that car. In 2000 I gave it to my nephew. He drove it for a couple of years. It's now over at the family home in England. We still take it out for a spin every now and again. One of most beautiful designs of a "modern" motorcar without being over the top garrish/ nouveau riche.
The 928 is one of my favorites since I was a kid. I had a 1990 S4 and absolutely loved it. I drove it daily and it drove like a Honda in town but a beast out on a twisty back road in spite of being a big car. I would take it out on the weekends and drive for hours at some very high speeds. Loved it. I wish I still had it.
The sun visor in the rear is because the rear window is right over the person head. The sun visor is used to shade the sun from the top of the rears passengers head and neck. Great presentation by the way.
Thing is a money pit lol. My dad had one and recently passed, so I'm looking to sell it off for investments during these low market prices. He didn't care for the Risky Business reference. He liked that it was the car Scarface buys to impress the girl haha. Such a beauty, and so fun to drive... You don't even realize it when it accelerates, but before you know it your doing 100. The suspension is very rigid, which you may or may not like. I love it, you can feel the road. But finding a mechanic to work on them and then the price of the parts, and insurance... It's too much for me. My dad put about $20k into it a few years ago and it ran for 2 years, now it won't start. Probably electrical.. I'd for sure keep it if it were affordable, but I'm likely going to just sell as is, maybe get a diagnostic done at least. Maybe if my investments take off I will buy it back haha. On an unrelated note, crypto is the future! Prices are low! :p
The steering wheel hub cover, console cover, and door card inserts are not factory. They look like products that a guy in Texas named Paul Champagne produced. I think he no longer does. It looks like you got a nice one. The Interval for replacing the timing belt is 60,000 miles. If this had been maintained at a Porsche dealer it could still have its original belt. Porsche did not specify a time interval. Commonly people use 5 years, but that is unofficial. Unless the car has had heavy exposure to ozone, the belts usually look like new at 10 years (my opinion). I check the tension every year and examine the belt. It's common to change out the water pump with the belt, but Porsche did not specify a service interval. Water pump seizure or bearing failure can be catastrophic to the valvetrain. I know the Wizard is brilliant, but this car has some design quirks that require specific knowledge. Even things as simple as a wheel alignment are beyond most mechanics unless they have specific information as the front suspension has rubber bushings that do not allow the suspension to settle to the proper height for 50-60 miles after raising the front end to inspect the components, although there is a procedure to pull it down. The timing belt job presents some challenges and there are mistakes that are too easy to make, even if you have the factory workshop manuals. I know...I made them all. I've had an 89 S4 for 22 years and at 300,000 hard miles (I supercharged and road raced it) the motor has never required more than regular maintenance and a few oil pan gaskets. Enjoy one of the greatest Autobahn cruisers ever made. This is the only car I have owned that I felt had a soul. There is some unifying force in this car that I feel when I drive it. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts.
I am curious about the rear suspension design. This was a somewhat unusual design where a bushing deflected to allow for toe-in during cornering. Do the bushings wear out? Are those special bushings even available from Porsche anymore? And yes, Paul Champagne, I agree the leather work looks like his handiwork (laser cutters and all). I remember e-mailing him about having some custom leather steering wheel cover made for my Honda Accord and he quoted me some price that was up there, as expected.
@@emineid Paul's products were expensive but were of the highest quality workmanship available. Most parts for the 928 from Porsche go in and out of production, but eventually reappear at some point. The rear suspension does have the Weisach toe-in effect. On my car, the bushings still seem intact, although I did buy a full set of them years ago for eventual replacement. Porsche parts prices have skyrocketed in the last couple of years.
I recall back in the 1980s when living in Silicon Valley region of California where the front-engined, water cooled Porsches of the 928; 924; and 944 were ubiquitous in the area; then they all vanished when the 1990s rolled around. It's been many years since I last saw a front-engined, water cooled Porsche on the road in the US.
Very true. Last time I drove it in Dallas a beautiful blonde girl with a red baseball cap in a white ferrari 458 chased me down just to give me A big thumbs up and a beautiful smile.
I owned that car in 1986. I decided to sell it after being stopped by a Texas State Trooper doing 110 in a 55. I remember the steering was very heavy but on the freeway it was like a rocket powered lazyboy.
This car was one of the reasons I wanted to go study engineering. To my knowledge it's the first car ever with rear wheel steering. There are pictures of an Opel Admiral mule, with a complete chassis of a 928, hurling down the autobahn with an engineer in a white coat on the back seat. He had a separate steering wheel to determine the best rear wheel steering angles. At 150 mph. Epic!
I find all of your vids endlessly entertaining, but this one is a favorite. I owned a 1989 928S4 auto years ago, and oftne miss it. It was a great car in many ways, and I really appreciated this walk down memory lane. Many thanks!
It took me 20 years to get to a point in my life where I could realistically purchase an inexpensive 928. Mine is an 83 so much less hp, but its still reasonable. Just as fast as my 2019 GTI in stock form. Needs a lot of TLC to be beautiful again, but I live that I finally own one.
I know.. i almost bought one for 4k a couple years ago and didn't... and I regret it. I've been looking at them recently, and of course, now I'll never get one lol...
I currently have 5 928s 2 1988 s4s 1 1989 s4, 1980 euro and a 1979 euro 5speed parts car. 928 international has everything and some new stuff they are in anehime California near Disneyland
My favourite Porsche. My old boss had on in champagne gold. Of course famous because Rebecca DeMornay ditched one into Lake Michigan in 1981 in the movie Risky Business. Immortalised by that statement “Porsche, there is no substitute’ - go watch the movie.
My favourite Porsche of all time. Clarkson has a special place for these - he had to drive at great speed from London to his home up in Yorkshire as his mum had rung to say his father may not live to the next day. He was testing a 928 at the time and it sped him all the way with no fuss.
Actually earlier euro 928 were more like 210hp or so. Euro 928s was much more whilst American quad cam 928s4 were the first to have 300hp or there abouts.
@@Arayig1982 Yes the first incarnation 4.5l was around 220, this was upgraded in the early 80s to a 4.7 that hit 300hp, and then up to near 310 with the s2 model. The later S4 model came in at 315hp but eventually hit 345hp with 5.4l GTS.
@@RandomInternetDog 288hp actually, 5,0 litre 32 valve. Early 4,7 euro had 300hp and -84-86 euro4,7 had 310hp+ 4,5 had 240hp in euro, and 218hp in US model Fucks 7 slots (Manhole) came with S model. Early cars had "phone dails"
I had a 91 S4 too. I remember spending all those hours hand painting the Porsche lettering on the intake manifold. I think I just wanted to spend more time with the car.
My Dad had 2 of these when I was a kid. The video doesn't do it justice but I've always felt the sound coming out of the exhaust of a 928 is the sweetest sound ever, well not counting Ferrari
35 years ago, saw one on the 'Route du Soleil' (French tollway going to the south of France), talked to the owner and fell in love...... same colour and interiour...... forget al your hypercars.......just a great GT cruiser is all you need.... That was my opinion at 17, and that is my opinion at 52..... Great looking car!!! Keep it up Hoovie!!
Quirks: Horn cover and door cards are not original...but Porsche did do that cloth in 944 and you could buy it in euro cars (I own an 85 928 factory logo cloth in burgundy). It's tastefully done (imho) and easy to replace if someone hates it. The rear visors are to shield the back window sun (back of the head and neck) for rear passengers in the greenhouse. The Porsche radio is expensive and nice Get Roger at 928sRus on speed dial. Rennlist is also your friend. It's not that hard to work on and parts are not Chevy cheap, but it's not Ferrari $$$. Most of us do our own work in the 928 community. 928 owners Club is going to Philly this summer for our annual meet up...FYI I'll give you $15k when you're ready to dump it! ;)
Suspension: replace with KONI RED shocks substantial upgrade and won't hurt value. The original BOGE rears are hard to get and only slightly less cost. The bushings are all available and should be done at the same time. Have the wizard check the shock adjusters spin and are not corroded...they can be sourced used from a supplier ...but there is an aftermarket solution but you'll have to change the springs.
5-speed V-8 cool the Wizard hates 928's I remember him saying it in a video. Ever since I had my generation one Transformers Stunticons and Dead End was a Porsche 928 I fell in love with the news 928 it is so much different than every thing that Porsche has made up to some of there modern offerings.
Your 928 also seems to have what we used to call a 'crooked smile" which is a mis-aligned front deck lid, the gap on the passenger side is slightly wider and it doesn't quite line up with the edge of the fender. this could be from accident damage (bent hinge) or just an adjustment needed.
Sadly the last 928 I worked on before I retired was backed into by one of our Audi techs when I was pulling out of the shop, a caved in L/F fender and what do you know.....a crooked smile just like the one on Tyler's car was the result!
My Grandfather had a new 928 S4 when I was in high school in that exact spec/color…his had Recaro seats…man I loved that car. It had lots of power for the time and handled the road so well. I don’t remember his steering wheel cover having that raised Porsche emblem. I think you scored on that one Hoovie.
Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
911 is the most overrated car in the world. I wish they changed the name after September 2001 happened but Porsche wouldn’t do it because it would piss off its fans
The 928 isn't the cheap Porsche. That's the top of the line. Brings back childhood (and teenager) memories. Fastest way to get 4 Persons from Stuttgart to Munich. If you want to get your mind blown, take a look into the history of Recaro.
In 1988 my friend Wes graduated from the business school at the Ohio State University and his father bought him a brand new 928 S4. We had a blast ripping that car around Central Ohio that summer. The one thing that stands out is that the stereo came with a cassette tape to teach you how to use the stereo.😁
The tape to learn how to use the stereo sounds about right for Porsche! LOL! They pulled out all the stops on the 928. It was way ahead of its time! Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
My dad had a series one and i loved it. They are pretty bullet proof cars mechanically but have fragile electrics. I so love the shape it is simply stunning. Lovely addition to your collection hoovie and an appreciating classic.
Built like a tank! I love my 928 S4 and most of your comments and assessments are spot on. I agree that it feels surprisingly modern to drive , solid , quiet, comfortable, but with real growl under the hood when needed. And the design is so unique and looked just as amazing in the 80s as it does now. And worth to mention that the S4 was actually the fastest stock road car when it came out. Happy to see it’s getting well deserved recognition. Mine is keeper, yours too!
I remember driving one sometime in the 1990s that was about 3 months old with about 1500 miles on it and getting stuck in heavy traffic on a hot summer day. I watched the temperature guage creep up until I had to pull over and wait about two hours for it to cool down and traffic clear up. I always liked the 928 but I was happy to get back in my Supra that day.
Was the overheating normal or something wrong with the car? My 89's temp gauge is usually at 75%. Two mechanics verified the gauge was reading hotter than actual temperature. I'm hoping it's a simple fix.
I had a 928 S2 for a couple of years back in the '90's. The best car I ever owned. That V8 engine is fantastic and utterly reliable. I paid 7000 pounds for it at an auction and apart from some new tyres after a year, it cost me nothing. My son was a bit too keen to drive it having only passed his test 6 months before and had already written off a Saab 900 Turbo so rather than cause too big an argument I sold the Porsche and bought a Merc 420SE Saloon which he called an old mans car and refused to even get in it. Great for me. As I said I sold the 928 for 5000 pounds and interestingly it was exported by the buyer to New Zealand where they were fetching very high prices. I long to find another 928 that I can afford to buy but the prices are out of reach these days.
Finally, I have had 8 Porsche’s in my life: a 1972 914 2.0, then six 911’s including bi turbo’s and one 928 and the 928 was the best of them all. Take a 928 to the track and you’ll be surprised how awesome it is. I am guessing the 928 was too perfect of a car and it drove the 911 people crazy, The fact that a front engine car that wasn’t air cooled might be so great. so somehow internally at Porsche they got rid of it. I think the balance and the handling of that 928 was one of the best cars I’ve ever driven.
What a great preliminary review of your new-to-you 928S4. Too many people - not just reviewers or TH-camrs, but public at large, too - just don’t give certain cars time before they form an opinion. You have to recalibrate your senses to a car like this, especially if you are jumping out of a modern Porsche. As you noted, though, these were impressively modern for a car introduced in 1977, and in the case of the S4, quick by even modern standards. I’m looking forward to hearing more about your experiences!
I drove an '85 928S2 5 speed for 19.5 years and the maintenance? I had to work on accessories now and then, but the car really wasn't that bad. I drove it all over the country when it was 17+ years old and didn't have a bit of trouble. The timing belt: Porsche recommends every six years/60,000 miles, but I did mine at 45,000 mile intervals. You replace the belt, the rollers, and the water pump and you are looking at $1500-$2000 in work, unless you do it yourself and then it works out to about $500. Parts: 928 International in Los Angeles has nearly everything and often times has a used part for sale on the cheap. Really, these are not expensive cars if you can do minor things yourself, and the design is so timeless that oftentimes restaurants offered me to valet park mine for free, so they could park it in front to make the restaurant look glamorous...
@@drobson8004 I traded my 928S2 about 6 years ago, but the going rate for the job here in south Florida was around $2k. This HAS to be done by a reputable shop. You can do it yourself, but if you screw it up.... 😭
Yeah, that's a bit odd. Obviously thus car has had some work done so maybe the rear wheels were replaced for some reason. Should be an inch wider with a different offset which is easily noticeable at the wheel openings.
I have (still) an '85 S3, 5sp manual with 95k miles that I use as a Sunday driver on the Western Slope of Colorado. Retired, I have the luxury of time to drive it weekdays through and over the otherwise busy, two-lane canyons and passes. I've kept mine stock and have the good fortune to have Alpine Autohaus nearby to keep me on the road. Cruise control, starter relay(s), fuel pump and filters have been my biggest gripe over 20 years of ownership having done the timing belt immediately after purchase. Climate control switch replacement was unexpected and R134a conversion was done while there 'cuz it's !@#$ hot here. Sure as heck, that $18 nylon gear on the trip odometer needed changing too. Happy Trails PS: Not even the MotorWeek episode mentions the Weissach axle fitted to this machine. If you do an edit please mention it. I may be why I'm here today.
Horn pad, door inserts, raised center arm rest and I think also his luggage cover were all done by Paul Champagne. He was one of the premier 928 interior guys back in the day. I had all those things as well as a few more done in my EURO 1992 GTS. His work was amazing! Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
I drove past a 928 at pawnshop in Denver for about a year. It was fairly trashed and they wanted $9500. They dropped it to $7000 and it still sat, which gave me pause, even for a fun but massive project. A month ago it went to $5000 and I though why not. I was finally convinced to buy it, it was already sold, of course.
Congratulations for buying the most beautiful GT-cruiser ever made - I was so in love with the styling back when the S4 came out and I still think it is just a gorgeous, time-less master piece of automotive design.
With the headlights down i agree, its a beautifull design. But when those come up it looks a bit dated, but its also a funny reminder of the eara it came from.
My dad had one back in the day red with black interior what an awesome car those sunvisors in the rear are to keep the sun off the back seat passengers
My favorite Porsche of all time! I was obsessed with them as a kid. I met my hero years ago and she didn't drive anywhere near as well as I'd hoped so I passed on owning one. But, one day, I'm still hoping to have 1 in the garage when I can afford to own cars that I can just stare at! Still think they're sexy as all get out.
Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
@@glennbeadshaw727 ....to each their own. They aren't everyone's cup of tea. I remember being a kid and seeing one for the first time at a stop light next to a 944 turbo. I was walking with my cousin and back then we'd "claim" every cool car we saw with a loud "THAT'S MY CAR!" Well the 928 S4 was mine and the 944 was his....my car won. I can still see it in my minds eye right now. I remember my dad being nostalgic in the same way about the Lincoln continental with the suicide doors and thinking how hideous that thing was. Feel almost the same way about DeLoreans.....and they're trash....but I'd still like to own one for nostalgia sake!
What a great example of the 928! I’ve never seen that color in person. Beautifully designed cars. My father has two 1979s and one 1990S4. The 90 is a driver and such a unique drive. Glad to see this on your channel!!
I loved driving my 944S2 for a decade...but I always dreamt of owning a 928S4 just like the one you bought. However I would have preferred the light metallic blue one with a dark blue leather interior... I had the same rims on my 944, I love those. But my dream of the 928S4 never came true. Here on this side of the Atlantic it is just too expensive for me to maintain (yes timing belt) on the engine. Furthermore we pay way more for gas than you do, even now with skyrocketing gas prices... This car is not very fuel efficient...But thanks for sharing your purchase with us. I am enjoying it very much. Will be looking forward to your bit with the Car Wizzard on this 928S4!
I had both a 928S4 and a 944S2 for years. Both manuals. Both in excellent condition. Loved both. Sold both. I miss the 944S2 the most. 3 liter four cylinder manual, 208 HP 207 torque, stick. Loads of torque. Tons of fun. You should find a 944S2 and drive it. I liked the 928S4 a lot also. But I wish I kept the 944S2. I did replace the anti sway bars and shocks on the S2 to improve it's handling. Well worth it.
This is finally the moment I’ve been waiting for. Welcome to the club! I hope this one treats you well and you can help dispel a lot of the misinformation out there about these amazing machines. The 928 has one of the tightest knit fandoms out there and owners are usually very willing to help a newbie to the club. Hit up 928 International in Orange, CA they are an amazing resource for parts. Porsche has even begun making some new parts again due to increased interest. We’ll done Hoovie.
Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
I had a late 70’s 928 that was a gray market car. No cats on the exhaust gave it about twenty more H.P. and all the gauges were in German. But the best feature was no sunroof! If you are over 6’ tall the head liner is too low unless you adjust the seat back like a gangsta. I miss my 928.
@@samanthaeichhorn4319 Dry gas is a liquid that is sold in a small bottle. When added to your gas tank, it absorbs any water in the tank. It is popular in northern states, because water in gasoline can freeze in very cold weather, causing starting and running problems.
I love the 928, my dad had a 928S back in the 80's and it wasn't exactly stock. It was guards red with black interior and a 5 speed. What I wouldn't do for a clean one like that!
@@duncansteward4331 with the se TH-cam creators I'm just waiting for an :S Swap to be announce or something similar. Views are worth more than anything, nothing is above views. This isn't a direct "attack" on Hoovie, I hope he uses this car to make money out of selling it in the future. The colours aren't my cup of tea but it looks very neat and complete. I got the feeling that the car had been resprayed, it looks too clean for its age and the type of car it is. 928s don't usually find their way into loving hands. That interiur has already been abused a bit although my idea of abuse may just be anothers idea of tasteful customisation. I'd like to see that steering bos returned to a more plain and original form.
My wife wants one of these -- a white over black or blue interior, 1986.5 5-speed 928 S2. She's very specific. Problem is, other than the GTS, it's the rarest of the 928s, so I've not been able to find one I can afford yet. And the price isn't getting any cheaper, unfortunately. I really like this one you've got here, though. But I must admit, I never would've bid on it, were I in the market for it, because of the swapped 5-speed. You just don't know if it was done properly unless you can actually go see the car yourself. I don't trust mods like that. Glad it worked out for you, though! Congrats!
This looks like a very tastefully modified car. The previous owner definitely knew what they wanted and had the capital to get it done right. That modern stereo in the vintage head unit is badass.
Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
A fiend of mine has an early 928S and he describes the car like this… The speed of a Ferrari - the comfort of a Bentley and the reliability of an old Mercedes Diesel… They are perfect travel cars - munching mile after mile when you cross Europe on the motorways as well as on small mountain passes. If I could afford one, I would buy it in a heartbeat, but the older version, because I like the old front bumper and taillights more.
Hoovie is just a straight up solid dude. Great presentation of the 928! Unique setup/options & a daily driver you don't need to worry about. Faaaaaaan-tastic
I had a dedicated 928 Race Car for many years. So much fun! Now I am down to 5 street 928. Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
From the early 90s to the mid 2000's I had a 914 .. 912 ... 993 c4s and a 928 s4 .... I loved it ... Such a great car ... about time you got one ... The maintenance was ridiculous but worth it ... I'm curious to see what it will be like now ... As for that interior stuff on the wheel ... Console cover and door pockets ... No not factory ... The console should be leather .... It could very well be Porsche fabric but definitely it has been redone .... When you're ready to sell it ... Let me know
I agree..the S4 was the best looking of the group. I recall riding around Road America in one of these in the late 80s...very good performance for what I considered a heavy (3500lb) car at that time. 0-60 under 6 seconds and 175mph car. They are a pretty complex car, electronically speaking...so expect a little higher maintenance.
I love 928's will sit at 145mph all day long without skipping a beat. great colour too I always wanted a vauxhall nova gsi in that simlar colour called silk violet
Yup welcome home, porsche is the place to be. The 928s4 as all 928's have the front electric wiring block behind the headlights that are notorious for failing, having cracked wiring, corrosion, and a myriad of other gremlins lurking. You have a good one, take car of it and it will take care of you.
I’m in love with your 928. It’s absolutely beautiful! That color is amazing and makes it really stand out. I have always liked the 928 as a kid just wish I could afford one.
Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
Over the last 10 years I've restored my 85 928. I can't remember where I found it but some man on his death bed wrote a 300 page manual on the torque spec for every nut and bolt on this car. I have it printed out so if the wizard ever needs it 😉. You can also put a supercharger on this for 7000
928 was one of my dream cars when I grew up. These days I'm just happy to wake up next morning. Greetings from Finland. I had to check: The cheapest 928 (4.7) 1987 in Finland has about 120 000 miles and the price is about 20 000 usd. The most expensive one on public sale, is a -93 GTS 5.4, about 50 000 miles and 100 000 usd.
Welcome to 928 ownership, there are almost dozens of us! I'm almost positive those door inserts and steering wheel pad aren't factory- I have a spare burgundy horn pad laying around if you want.
As another 928 owner I agree that the door cards and steering wheel pad is not factory.
It's "risky business" to own a 928 if you don't have a wizard on retainer.
Ah I was wondering what the answer was, Nice to find it here
The center console tape compartment lid has been raised up as well. Look at it from the side.
Only dozens?
My friend's dad had one when we were in high school. Of course it was off limits but his parents went away for a couple of weeks so of course we had to do it. Same colour combo as Hoovie's, but an earlier year with an auto.
Didn't quite do a "Risky Business" but my friend managed to underestimate his speed/overestimate his braking distance. We slid right through a stop sign and into a farmer's field. Managed to get the car out undamaged and drove it home at about 20mph the whole way. Washed it, put it back exactly where his dad had parked it, and called it a night. The perfect crime.
About two months later his dad took it in for brake service and the dealer found a tremendous amount of mud, grass, and even some lengths of barbed wire wrapped around the front suspension. Oops.
Good story! Very succint
Joel,
Sometimes you gotta say, What the fuck.
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love that story!
The styling of the 928 is just so sexy. I remember returning on a pizza delivery on a two lane road when one got behind me then passed me like I was sitting still.
I proudly owned and drove an 86 928s for two trouble free years. Criminally underrated cars, truly a ground up design. Yes repairs can hurt but in reality you just have to drive them. When old cars sit they break plain and simple. I miss mine every day. Great snag Hoovie!
Rear sunvisors are for the rear glass, to shade rear passengers heads from sun/heat
Shame on Hoovie for not knowing!
Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
You, sir, are correct!
Exactly, your head is actually not under roof but rather a hatch window. Awesome cars, but look much better on cup1 or cup2 wheels. Much more aggressive and sporty look then.
@@kubaowoc261 - You mean your kid's heads. No fully sized adult is sitting back there.
The 928 is wonderful - so much character and that shape ! Still looks futuristic today
If the wing mirrors weren’t square!
@@amosy8345 I don't mind either of the original mirrors. Actually, I think the newer rounder mirrors suit the cars shape. Horses for courses I suppose. I like the 5 spoke GT wheels too.
edit to add: Not that I dislike any of the standard 928 wheels.
I had one for 10 years. Great car. Expensive to repair. Electrics can be a nightmare. Good luck. Beautiful design. Drove across Europe in snow, no problem.
My bro-in-law had a green one in the late 1980’s. Yep, the electrics were a REAL nightmare that never got fixed. But his 2 small children liked it. They were 2 & 4 and fit perfectly into the 2 small backseats.
All the water-cooled cars from then had a near timeless shape. This 928 is in a really good condition. Good find, Tyler!
*Buy the manual transmission and save yourself an average of $2300 a year!*
The 928 was the car that got me interested in Porsche! Sorry to say I’ve never owned one, but a plethora of 911’s over the years. I think I need one now🤔
I made a model of it in art class. 🤣
Get a euro s with the high comp 4.7 those are considered the best of the bunch
My friend had a 87 EURO VERSION sold it for 2500 in early 2000s..wish I had the money back then.so beautiful..
Likewise for me. I still have the 928S4 foldout ad I pulled out of a mag when I was something like 6? I ended up buying a g body carrera instead. A manual trans 928S4 is on my short list. A GTS would be top choice, but I don't think I can afford one now.
It was my cousin's 912 for me.
The 928 S4 Just wakes up at 120mph!, I know I've owned 9 of them, Wish I could have kept them all, Only have one now, what a Pleasure to drive, People just don't get it? Hoovie, it takes a person like you to give the car the recognition it deserves! Thanks for the video.
I was a valet in weschester, NY and we regularly drove customers cars. My favorite was the 928 s4. i remember it like it was yesterday... Maybe you know the top speed. I have always said it was close to 165 mph... but now im not to sure..
Had an S4 manual as well as the last year GTS, also manual. Decent car, well balanced with good touring manners. Large and, well... it's LARGE. If you thought MG's and Fiat's are plagued with electrical issues. These render those 'simpleton machines'. The German's weren't very clever when they decided to put the space shuttle worthy array of relays, fuses and connectors in the ridiculous, underfoot, plywood board under the passengers feet. PLYWOOD. Remember, this was a $85k car. Was in Telluride as newlyweds on a ski trip and my wife couldn't help but saturate said electrical 'plank' with slush and snow. Upon starting, the dash warning lights illuminated in concert with the headlights, windshield wipers and washers having a mind of their own. Started down the hill towards the closest service station and we were greeted by thick smoke eminating from everywhere. Underfoot electrical plank, dash. Everywhere. Car was still new and had all of 2000 or so miles. Was transported to a dealership in Denver where it stayed for 19 days until parts came in. Repairs were done under warranty. As I recall the total was north of $15+k. It was plagued with electrical gremlins and I couldn't get rid of it fast enough. Traded it on a new Mercedes 500E. I believe they offered me $70k in trade against the MBZ. Best move ever. That car was everything the GTS was not. Just as fast and 2 extra doors.
Growing up in the late 80’s I had multiple Porsche enthusiasts on my street . One family loved the 944 and had multiple incarnations another family had the 911…. I lusted after the S4 the other neighbor drove. Love it !
Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
Stevie Nicks owned one exactly like this in the late ‘80’s. She ordered it after watching the movie Risky Business and liked the 928 in that so much she called the local Porsche dealer and ordered a pink one like this. (Yes, that’s pink, not red Tyler 😘) It was delivered to her driveway the next day with a red bow on it.
man, this is a hell of a presentation for this car. well done, learned lots.
If you are interested in more info about the 928 I have several videos on my YT channel. Here is a really solid history of the 928. They are amazing cars! Enjoy! th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
He didn't have to say all that
I always loved this car! Even took a test drive and almost bought one from an acquaintance but the maintenance stories scared me away. Still one of my favorite designs of a car of all time. 👍👍
Reminds me of the two 928 Clarkson used in a couple of Top Gear challenges.
1) In the cheap Porsche challenge from 2004 he had a 928 from 1983. Can't remember what he paid but it was 1500£ or less.
2) In the Patagonia special from 2014 he had a newer 928 GT with the infamous registration "H982 FKL".
Looking at todays prices one should have picked up a car or two back then.
Clarkson's story about the 928 and his father RIP really moved me.
Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
@@daviddandavid Indeed that really hit home. "And the truth is, if i hadnt been driving a car which could sit happily at 170mph, i wouldnt have had the opportunity to say goodbye to my dad. So as far as im concerned: the 928.. its alright"
I've had two, currently have one.
Bought in 2016.
Lotta those cheap car challenges had cars that are now stupid expensive. Also similar to any car Clarkson has ever owned.
This is my dream car. I'm not a big fan of all the other expensive exotics. I've loved the 928 since I first saw a picture of one in a car magazine in the 80's. I hope Hoovie keeps this for a long time. I hope to be able to afford one some day. The color is just absolutely gorgeous. If you now have a 928 your not that Dumb. Back when this car was conceived it was supposed to replace the 911. I'd take a 928 over any 911 anytime. Please keep up the good work. Thank you.
Those rear visors are to keep the sun off of the top of the head of the rear passenger since the glass goes so far into the passenger compartment.
OMg! When I graduated secondary school (I guess it was highschool since I was in the states those years), in 1994, one of my graduation gifts was a 1995 928 GTS!! Loved that car. In 2000 I gave it to my nephew. He drove it for a couple of years. It's now over at the family home in England. We still take it out for a spin every now and again. One of most beautiful designs of a "modern" motorcar without being over the top garrish/ nouveau riche.
The 928 is one of my favorites since I was a kid. I had a 1990 S4 and absolutely loved it. I drove it daily and it drove like a Honda in town but a beast out on a twisty back road in spite of being a big car. I would take it out on the weekends and drive for hours at some very high speeds. Loved it. I wish I still had it.
The sun visor in the rear is because the rear window is right over the person head. The sun visor is used to shade the sun from the top of the rears passengers head and neck.
Great presentation by the way.
Honestly Tyler, this car is the coolest car we've seen bought in a really really long time. I absolutely love this car!
Thing is a money pit lol. My dad had one and recently passed, so I'm looking to sell it off for investments during these low market prices. He didn't care for the Risky Business reference. He liked that it was the car Scarface buys to impress the girl haha. Such a beauty, and so fun to drive... You don't even realize it when it accelerates, but before you know it your doing 100. The suspension is very rigid, which you may or may not like. I love it, you can feel the road.
But finding a mechanic to work on them and then the price of the parts, and insurance... It's too much for me. My dad put about $20k into it a few years ago and it ran for 2 years, now it won't start. Probably electrical.. I'd for sure keep it if it were affordable, but I'm likely going to just sell as is, maybe get a diagnostic done at least. Maybe if my investments take off I will buy it back haha. On an unrelated note, crypto is the future! Prices are low! :p
Please please please keep this one and DRIVE IT. My dad’s was neglected for years and now that i drive it more, it’s so much happier
Watching this kind of stuff growing up on gran turismo is awesome. How many others are playing 7?
The steering wheel hub cover, console cover, and door card inserts are not factory. They look like products that a guy in Texas named Paul Champagne produced. I think he no longer does. It looks like you got a nice one. The Interval for replacing the timing belt is 60,000 miles. If this had been maintained at a Porsche dealer it could still have its original belt. Porsche did not specify a time interval. Commonly people use 5 years, but that is unofficial. Unless the car has had heavy exposure to ozone, the belts usually look like new at 10 years (my opinion). I check the tension every year and examine the belt. It's common to change out the water pump with the belt, but Porsche did not specify a service interval. Water pump seizure or bearing failure can be catastrophic to the valvetrain. I know the Wizard is brilliant, but this car has some design quirks that require specific knowledge. Even things as simple as a wheel alignment are beyond most mechanics unless they have specific information as the front suspension has rubber bushings that do not allow the suspension to settle to the proper height for 50-60 miles after raising the front end to inspect the components, although there is a procedure to pull it down. The timing belt job presents some challenges and there are mistakes that are too easy to make, even if you have the factory workshop manuals. I know...I made them all. I've had an 89 S4 for 22 years and at 300,000 hard miles (I supercharged and road raced it) the motor has never required more than regular maintenance and a few oil pan gaskets. Enjoy one of the greatest Autobahn cruisers ever made. This is the only car I have owned that I felt had a soul. There is some unifying force in this car that I feel when I drive it. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts.
I am curious about the rear suspension design. This was a somewhat unusual design where a bushing deflected to allow for toe-in during cornering. Do the bushings wear out? Are those special bushings even available from Porsche anymore? And yes, Paul Champagne, I agree the leather work looks like his handiwork (laser cutters and all). I remember e-mailing him about having some custom leather steering wheel cover made for my Honda Accord and he quoted me some price that was up there, as expected.
@@emineid Paul's products were expensive but were of the highest quality workmanship available. Most parts for the 928 from Porsche go in and out of production, but eventually reappear at some point. The rear suspension does have the Weisach toe-in effect. On my car, the bushings still seem intact, although I did buy a full set of them years ago for eventual replacement. Porsche parts prices have skyrocketed in the last couple of years.
I recall back in the 1980s when living in Silicon Valley region of California where the front-engined, water cooled Porsches of the 928; 924; and 944 were ubiquitous in the area; then they all vanished when the 1990s rolled around. It's been many years since I last saw a front-engined, water cooled Porsche on the road in the US.
Very true. Last time I drove it in Dallas a beautiful blonde girl with a red baseball cap in a white ferrari 458 chased me down just to give me A big thumbs up and a beautiful smile.
Yesss I own a 1980 1st gen 928, so cool to see more people catching on to them because they are such good buys right now
I owned that car in 1986. I decided to sell it after being stopped by a Texas State Trooper doing 110 in a 55. I remember the steering was very heavy but on the freeway it was like a rocket powered lazyboy.
This car was one of the reasons I wanted to go study engineering. To my knowledge it's the first car ever with rear wheel steering. There are pictures of an Opel Admiral mule, with a complete chassis of a 928, hurling down the autobahn with an engineer in a white coat on the back seat. He had a separate steering wheel to determine the best rear wheel steering angles. At 150 mph. Epic!
MY FAV PORSCHE 928 OF ALL TIME LOVE THIS CAR....My friend had one when I was growing up and I used to go on ride alongs ONE DAY I will get one
I find all of your vids endlessly entertaining, but this one is a favorite. I owned a 1989 928S4 auto years ago, and oftne miss it. It was a great car in many ways, and I really appreciated this walk down memory lane. Many thanks!
It took me 20 years to get to a point in my life where I could realistically purchase an inexpensive 928. Mine is an 83 so much less hp, but its still reasonable. Just as fast as my 2019 GTI in stock form. Needs a lot of TLC to be beautiful again, but I live that I finally own one.
Well….thanks for making a video about it hoovers ! Now it won’t be cheap anymore lol
I know.. i almost bought one for 4k a couple years ago and didn't... and I regret it. I've been looking at them recently, and of course, now I'll never get one lol...
I currently have 5 928s 2 1988 s4s 1 1989 s4, 1980 euro and a 1979 euro 5speed parts car. 928 international has everything and some new stuff they are in anehime California near Disneyland
My favourite Porsche. My old boss had on in champagne gold. Of course famous because Rebecca DeMornay ditched one into Lake Michigan in 1981 in the movie Risky Business. Immortalised by that statement “Porsche, there is no substitute’ - go watch the movie.
My favourite Porsche of all time. Clarkson has a special place for these - he had to drive at great speed from London to his home up in Yorkshire as his mum had rung to say his father may not live to the next day. He was testing a 928 at the time and it sped him all the way with no fuss.
This is a car most people would buy and then keep for a LOOOONNGGGG time for all the reasons you talked about in this video
Early Euro 928s were 310 hp, only the US models were down in the 200s.
Those manhole cover alloys were also on early cars.
I love my 1983 928s.
Actually earlier euro 928 were more like 210hp or so. Euro 928s was much more whilst American quad cam 928s4 were the first to have 300hp or there abouts.
@@Arayig1982 Yes the first incarnation 4.5l was around 220, this was upgraded in the early 80s to a 4.7 that hit 300hp, and then up to near 310 with the s2 model.
The later S4 model came in at 315hp but eventually hit 345hp with 5.4l GTS.
@@Arayig1982 The S3, 85-86, are right at 300hp.
@@RandomInternetDog 288hp actually, 5,0 litre 32 valve.
Early 4,7 euro had 300hp and -84-86 euro4,7 had 310hp+
4,5 had 240hp in euro, and 218hp in US model
Fucks 7 slots (Manhole) came with S model. Early cars had "phone dails"
One of my favourite cars the Porsche 928 Series 4. Its like some classic rock music that never gets old.
I had a 91 S4 too. I remember spending all those hours hand painting the Porsche lettering on the intake manifold. I think I just wanted to spend more time with the car.
My Dad had 2 of these when I was a kid. The video doesn't do it justice but I've always felt the sound coming out of the exhaust of a 928 is the sweetest sound ever, well not counting Ferrari
35 years ago, saw one on the 'Route du Soleil' (French tollway going to the south of France), talked to the owner and fell in love...... same colour and interiour...... forget al your hypercars.......just a great GT cruiser is all you need.... That was my opinion at 17, and that is my opinion at 52..... Great looking car!!!
Keep it up Hoovie!!
I always wanted a 928! I like the original taillights and the "phone dial" rims. No car looks like the 928.
Quirks:
Horn cover and door cards are not original...but Porsche did do that cloth in 944 and you could buy it in euro cars (I own an 85 928 factory logo cloth in burgundy). It's tastefully done (imho) and easy to replace if someone hates it.
The rear visors are to shield the back window sun (back of the head and neck) for rear passengers in the greenhouse.
The Porsche radio is expensive and nice
Get Roger at 928sRus on speed dial. Rennlist is also your friend. It's not that hard to work on and parts are not Chevy cheap, but it's not Ferrari $$$. Most of us do our own work in the 928 community. 928 owners Club is going to Philly this summer for our annual meet up...FYI
I'll give you $15k when you're ready to dump it! ;)
Suspension: replace with KONI RED shocks substantial upgrade and won't hurt value. The original BOGE rears are hard to get and only slightly less cost. The bushings are all available and should be done at the same time. Have the wizard check the shock adjusters spin and are not corroded...they can be sourced used from a supplier ...but there is an aftermarket solution but you'll have to change the springs.
5-speed V-8 cool the Wizard hates 928's I remember him saying it in a video. Ever since I had my generation one Transformers Stunticons and Dead End was a Porsche 928 I fell in love with the news 928 it is so much different than every thing that Porsche has made up to some of there modern offerings.
Your 928 also seems to have what we used to call a 'crooked smile" which is a mis-aligned front deck lid, the gap on the passenger side is slightly wider and it doesn't quite line up with the edge of the fender. this could be from accident damage (bent hinge) or just an adjustment needed.
Agree, the front right passenger side looks a bit off.. maybe it got a respray for small cosmetic damage or stone chip repair?
That wouldn't cause it unless the respray was due to structural damage/body work.
good eye, i spotted it too
Sadly the last 928 I worked on before I retired was backed into by one of our Audi techs when I was pulling out of the shop, a caved in L/F fender and what do you know.....a crooked smile just like the one on Tyler's car was the result!
Hoovie - the rear sun visiors have lot of sense, because they are for the rear glass to eliminate sun shining at the heads of rear passenger.
My Grandfather had a new 928 S4 when I was in high school in that exact spec/color…his had Recaro seats…man I loved that car. It had lots of power for the time and handled the road so well. I don’t remember his steering wheel cover having that raised Porsche emblem. I think you scored on that one Hoovie.
Hoovie, the 928 was also featured in the movie, Weird Science", with the exotic Kelly LeBrock. ⚡🌩️
A REALLY good purchase Hoovie. 👍
Always loved this Porsche over any other model.
Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
911 is the most overrated car in the world. I wish they changed the name after September 2001 happened but Porsche wouldn’t do it because it would piss off its fans
The 928 isn't the cheap Porsche. That's the top of the line. Brings back childhood (and teenager) memories. Fastest way to get 4 Persons from Stuttgart to Munich. If you want to get your mind blown, take a look into the history of Recaro.
In 1988 my friend Wes graduated from the business school at the Ohio State University and his father bought him a brand new 928 S4. We had a blast ripping that car around Central Ohio that summer. The one thing that stands out is that the stereo came with a cassette tape to teach you how to use the stereo.😁
😂😂😂 You can’t get more 80s than that!
The tape to learn how to use the stereo sounds about right for Porsche! LOL! They pulled out all the stops on the 928. It was way ahead of its time! Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
My dad had a series one and i loved it. They are pretty bullet proof cars mechanically but have fragile electrics. I so love the shape it is simply stunning. Lovely addition to your collection hoovie and an appreciating classic.
Built like a tank! I love my 928 S4 and most of your comments and assessments are spot on. I agree that it feels surprisingly modern to drive , solid , quiet, comfortable, but with real growl under the hood when needed. And the design is so unique and looked just as amazing in the 80s as it does now. And worth to mention that the S4 was actually the fastest stock road car when it came out. Happy to see it’s getting well deserved recognition. Mine is keeper, yours too!
Last year I found a mind condition '89 GT with sixteen thousand miles on it. Brand frickin' new. Paid $89 thousand for it. Coolest Porsche I ever had.
I remember driving one sometime in the 1990s that was about 3 months old with about 1500 miles on it and getting stuck in heavy traffic on a hot summer day. I watched the temperature guage creep up until I had to pull over and wait about two hours for it to cool down and traffic clear up. I always liked the 928 but I was happy to get back in my Supra that day.
Was the overheating normal or something wrong with the car? My 89's temp gauge is usually at 75%. Two mechanics verified the gauge was reading hotter than actual temperature. I'm hoping it's a simple fix.
The only old school Porsche I really like. Man the headlights demo was Soo funny.
I had a 928 S2 for a couple of years back in the '90's. The best car I ever owned. That V8 engine is fantastic and utterly reliable. I paid 7000 pounds for it at an auction and apart from some new tyres after a year, it cost me nothing. My son was a bit too keen to drive it having only passed his test 6 months before and had already written off a Saab 900 Turbo so rather than cause too big an argument I sold the Porsche and bought a Merc 420SE Saloon which he called an old mans car and refused to even get in it. Great for me. As I said I sold the 928 for 5000 pounds and interestingly it was exported by the buyer to New Zealand where they were fetching very high prices. I long to find another 928 that I can afford to buy but the prices are out of reach these days.
See if your son will buy one so you can borrow it from him. You know turn a-bout is fair play.
I live in New Zealand and part of a group of about 25 928 owners be interested to see if it still exists
Finally, I have had 8 Porsche’s in my life: a 1972 914 2.0, then six 911’s including bi turbo’s and one 928 and the 928 was the best of them all. Take a 928 to the track and you’ll be surprised how awesome it is.
I am guessing the 928 was too perfect of a car and it drove the 911 people crazy, The fact that a front engine car that wasn’t air cooled might be so great. so somehow internally at Porsche they got rid of it. I think the balance and the handling of that 928 was one of the best cars I’ve ever driven.
What a great preliminary review of your new-to-you 928S4. Too many people - not just reviewers or TH-camrs, but public at large, too - just don’t give certain cars time before they form an opinion. You have to recalibrate your senses to a car like this, especially if you are jumping out of a modern Porsche. As you noted, though, these were impressively modern for a car introduced in 1977, and in the case of the S4, quick by even modern standards. I’m looking forward to hearing more about your experiences!
TAKES ME BACK TO WATCHING RISKY BUSINESS AT AGE 11 LOVIN THIS CAR💯💯 TRUE 80’s 💎
I drove an '85 928S2 5 speed for 19.5 years and the maintenance? I had to work on accessories now and then, but the car really wasn't that bad. I drove it all over the country when it was 17+ years old and didn't have a bit of trouble.
The timing belt: Porsche recommends every six years/60,000 miles, but I did mine at 45,000 mile intervals. You replace the belt, the rollers, and the water pump and you are looking at $1500-$2000 in work, unless you do it yourself and then it works out to about $500.
Parts: 928 International in Los Angeles has nearly everything and often times has a used part for sale on the cheap. Really, these are not expensive cars if you can do minor things yourself, and the design is so timeless that oftentimes restaurants offered me to valet park mine for free, so they could park it in front to make the restaurant look glamorous...
Where do you get that work done for 2k or less? I would love to know.
@@drobson8004 I traded my 928S2 about 6 years ago, but the going rate for the job here in south Florida was around $2k. This HAS to be done by a reputable shop. You can do it yourself, but if you screw it up....
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I have had two 928S with 300HP.Both 1982
Eurospec.
Automatic.And two 928GT one 89 and one 90 with 330HP Manual.
They are great cars.😎
The S4 should have the wider wheels at the back with 245 wide rubber, this one seems to have the narrow wheels from the pre 87 models.
Yeah, that's a bit odd. Obviously thus car has had some work done so maybe the rear wheels were replaced for some reason. Should be an inch wider with a different offset which is easily noticeable at the wheel openings.
Always been my favourite Porsche. I honestly don't know why they aren't more popular!
Absolutely unique styling with the smoothest rear end you'll ever see.
I have (still) an '85 S3, 5sp manual with 95k miles that I use as a Sunday driver on the Western Slope of Colorado. Retired, I have the luxury of time to drive it weekdays through and over the otherwise busy, two-lane canyons and passes. I've kept mine stock and have the good fortune to have Alpine Autohaus nearby to keep me on the road. Cruise control, starter relay(s), fuel pump and filters have been my biggest gripe over 20 years of ownership having done the timing belt immediately after purchase. Climate control switch replacement was unexpected and R134a conversion was done while there 'cuz it's !@#$ hot here. Sure as heck, that $18 nylon gear on the trip odometer needed changing too. Happy Trails PS: Not even the MotorWeek episode mentions the Weissach axle fitted to this machine. If you do an edit please mention it. I may be why I'm here today.
Always loved the 928, I could see the horn cover being factory Porsche did some wild things in 928 interiors.
Horn pad, door inserts, raised center arm rest and I think also his luggage cover were all done by Paul Champagne. He was one of the premier 928 interior guys back in the day. I had all those things as well as a few more done in my EURO 1992 GTS. His work was amazing! Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
I drove past a 928 at pawnshop in Denver for about a year. It was fairly trashed and they wanted $9500. They dropped it to $7000 and it still sat, which gave me pause, even for a fun but massive project. A month ago it went to $5000 and I though why not. I was finally convinced to buy it, it was already sold, of course.
Congratulations for buying the most beautiful GT-cruiser ever made - I was so in love with the styling back when the S4 came out and I still think it is just a gorgeous, time-less master piece of automotive design.
With the headlights down i agree, its a beautifull design. But when those come up it looks a bit dated, but its also a funny reminder of the eara it came from.
My dad had one back in the day red with black interior what an awesome car those sunvisors in the rear are to keep the sun off the back seat passengers
My favorite Porsche of all time! I was obsessed with them as a kid. I met my hero years ago and she didn't drive anywhere near as well as I'd hoped so I passed on owning one. But, one day, I'm still hoping to have 1 in the garage when I can afford to own cars that I can just stare at! Still think they're sexy as all get out.
Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
Well they're about as sexy as a 1980s stereo but good well-built reliable strong cars
@@glennbeadshaw727 ....to each their own. They aren't everyone's cup of tea. I remember being a kid and seeing one for the first time at a stop light next to a 944 turbo. I was walking with my cousin and back then we'd "claim" every cool car we saw with a loud "THAT'S MY CAR!" Well the 928 S4 was mine and the 944 was his....my car won. I can still see it in my minds eye right now. I remember my dad being nostalgic in the same way about the Lincoln continental with the suicide doors and thinking how hideous that thing was. Feel almost the same way about DeLoreans.....and they're trash....but I'd still like to own one for nostalgia sake!
What a great example of the 928! I’ve never seen that color in person. Beautifully designed cars. My father has two 1979s and one 1990S4. The 90 is a driver and such a unique drive. Glad to see this on your channel!!
I loved driving my 944S2 for a decade...but I always dreamt of owning a 928S4 just like the one you bought. However I would have preferred the light metallic blue one with a dark blue leather interior... I had the same rims on my 944, I love those. But my dream of the 928S4 never came true. Here on this side of the Atlantic it is just too expensive for me to maintain (yes timing belt) on the engine. Furthermore we pay way more for gas than you do, even now with skyrocketing gas prices... This car is not very fuel efficient...But thanks for sharing your purchase with us. I am enjoying it very much. Will be looking forward to your bit with the Car Wizzard on this 928S4!
I had both a 928S4 and a 944S2 for years. Both manuals. Both in excellent condition. Loved both. Sold both. I miss the 944S2 the most. 3 liter four cylinder manual, 208 HP 207 torque, stick. Loads of torque. Tons of fun. You should find a 944S2 and drive it. I liked the 928S4 a lot also. But I wish I kept the 944S2.
I did replace the anti sway bars and shocks on the S2 to improve it's handling. Well worth it.
The one to watch is the 1986.5 928 (S3); OB style and the S4 suspension, brakes, true dual exhaust and 32 Valve motor.
This is finally the moment I’ve been waiting for. Welcome to the club! I hope this one treats you well and you can help dispel a lot of the misinformation out there about these amazing machines. The 928 has one of the tightest knit fandoms out there and owners are usually very willing to help a newbie to the club. Hit up 928 International in Orange, CA they are an amazing resource for parts. Porsche has even begun making some new parts again due to increased interest. We’ll done Hoovie.
Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
I had a late 70’s 928 that was a gray market car. No cats on the exhaust gave it about twenty more H.P. and all the gauges were in German. But the best feature was no sunroof! If you are over 6’ tall the head liner is too low unless you adjust the seat back like a gangsta. I miss my 928.
I owned one of these. The fuel injection system is extremely sensitive to water in the gasoline. It is a good idea to carry some dry gas with you.
Yeah, so definitely avoid ethanol blended fuels.
What's dry gas?
@@samanthaeichhorn4319 Dry gas is a liquid that is sold in a small bottle. When added to your gas tank, it absorbs any water in the tank. It is popular in northern states, because water in gasoline can freeze in very cold weather, causing starting and running problems.
@@savannah65 thank you 😎👍🏾
I have a 1981 guards red that my uncle owned since New! Great car, thinking about selling it on now.
I love the 928, my dad had a 928S back in the 80's and it wasn't exactly stock. It was guards red with black interior and a 5 speed. What I wouldn't do for a clean one like that!
I dont think he realises, he has a real find there
@@duncansteward4331 with the se TH-cam creators I'm just waiting for an :S Swap to be announce or something similar. Views are worth more than anything, nothing is above views. This isn't a direct "attack" on Hoovie, I hope he uses this car to make money out of selling it in the future. The colours aren't my cup of tea but it looks very neat and complete. I got the feeling that the car had been resprayed, it looks too clean for its age and the type of car it is. 928s don't usually find their way into loving hands.
That interiur has already been abused a bit although my idea of abuse may just be anothers idea of tasteful customisation. I'd like to see that steering bos returned to a more plain and original form.
i owned a 1978 .....928 ........it was a pleasure to drive
That is literally one of my dream cars. That exact color combination, the manual transmission, and those rims. Absolute perfection
I hope you get one!
My wife wants one of these -- a white over black or blue interior, 1986.5 5-speed 928 S2. She's very specific. Problem is, other than the GTS, it's the rarest of the 928s, so I've not been able to find one I can afford yet. And the price isn't getting any cheaper, unfortunately.
I really like this one you've got here, though. But I must admit, I never would've bid on it, were I in the market for it, because of the swapped 5-speed. You just don't know if it was done properly unless you can actually go see the car yourself. I don't trust mods like that. Glad it worked out for you, though! Congrats!
This looks like a very tastefully modified car. The previous owner definitely knew what they wanted and had the capital to get it done right.
That modern stereo in the vintage head unit is badass.
Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
I've always loved the look of the 928, long before any other Porsche ever spoke to me.
A fiend of mine has an early 928S and he describes the car like this…
The speed of a Ferrari - the comfort of a Bentley and the reliability of an old Mercedes Diesel…
They are perfect travel cars - munching mile after mile when you cross Europe on the motorways as well as on small mountain passes.
If I could afford one, I would buy it in a heartbeat, but the older version, because I like the old front bumper and taillights more.
You missed the "r" in friend, makes it fiend meaning a demon, what that woman with the bug eyes looked like at the beginning of Tyer' video. LOL
Thx Hoovie - great video - you have just single handedly pushed a 928 out of my reach..... ahhh well
Hoovie is just a straight up solid dude. Great presentation of the 928! Unique setup/options & a daily driver you don't need to worry about. Faaaaaaan-tastic
Excellent purchase, the 928 has always been my favorite Porsche. I did own a 924s.
My friend was a mechanic and hos boss had a 928 modified for track use. When my friend fired it up, holy moly it sounded insane.
I had a dedicated 928 Race Car for many years. So much fun! Now I am down to 5 street 928. Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
Still own an '85 928S today. The attention to detail on these cars is amazing!
From the early 90s to the mid 2000's I had a 914 .. 912 ... 993 c4s and a 928 s4 .... I loved it ... Such a great car ... about time you got one ... The maintenance was ridiculous but worth it ... I'm curious to see what it will be like now ... As for that interior stuff on the wheel ... Console cover and door pockets ... No not factory ... The console should be leather .... It could very well be Porsche fabric but definitely it has been redone .... When you're ready to sell it ... Let me know
God damn it hoovie.. my favorite Porsche of all time! I love the head lights and how Porsche is in huge letters embossed across the back!!
I agree..the S4 was the best looking of the group. I recall riding around Road America in one of these in the late 80s...very good performance for what I considered a heavy (3500lb) car at that time. 0-60 under 6 seconds and 175mph car. They are a pretty complex car, electronically speaking...so expect a little higher maintenance.
I love 928's will sit at 145mph all day long without skipping a beat.
great colour too I always wanted a vauxhall nova gsi in that simlar colour called silk violet
Difficult to believe the 928 was debuted at the 1977 Geneva Motor Show. Still beautiful, and still looks modern.
When it debuted back in 1977, people actually did popped out their eyes like a from when they stared at the car.
Yup welcome home, porsche is the place to be. The 928s4 as all 928's have the front electric wiring block behind the headlights that are notorious for failing, having cracked wiring, corrosion, and a myriad of other gremlins lurking.
You have a good one, take car of it and it will take care of you.
I’m in love with your 928. It’s absolutely beautiful! That color is amazing and makes it really stand out. I have always liked the 928 as a kid just wish I could afford one.
Such fantastic cars! I have many YT videos of the 928 on my channel. Love for you to watch them. Here is a good primer: th-cam.com/video/cnESejXIDeA/w-d-xo.html
Wow, so quiet in the cabin. And so much visibility with all that generous glass. And the interior is really nice.
Over the last 10 years I've restored my 85 928. I can't remember where I found it but some man on his death bed wrote a 300 page manual on the torque spec for every nut and bolt on this car. I have it printed out so if the wizard ever needs it 😉. You can also put a supercharger on this for 7000
Mines an 84 but I'm going to be doing the suspension rebuild soon. Any chance you can send that to me?
I wasn't on my death bed, I was sitting on the couch for a weekend after a vasectomy :) . Would be happy to advise the Wizard if he has any questions.
928 was one of my dream cars when I grew up.
These days I'm just happy to wake up next morning.
Greetings from Finland.
I had to check:
The cheapest 928 (4.7) 1987 in Finland has about 120 000 miles and the price is about 20 000 usd.
The most expensive one on public sale, is a -93 GTS 5.4, about 50 000 miles and 100 000 usd.