@@THIBARMY Good for you, I been reading your articles from T-nation and they are fantastic but you seem to write much about steroids, which is awesome and most of them don't want to touch that subject because they are COWARDS... keep it up..
@@mariolp2999 Are you sure you are talking about my articles? I don't remember ever writing an article about steroids. I did write articles on the differences between enhanced and natural training, but that's pretty much it.
@@THIBARMY yes that's what I meant. I had an argument with Paul about his high rep barbell curls for building muscle, I told him that this only helps those guys that are enhanced and he went into a rage calling me an idiot....lol...
This is, hands-down, the single best video explaining the difference between Natural and Enhanced training!! Thank you, Sir!! I look forward to more of your content~ Cheers!!
I am subscribed. I have not ever heard a clearer explanation from anyone on how to actually train properly, and I have been pursing fitness boldly for 7 years. This is utterly astonishing.
Well, im a natural 48 year old training strongman style, and i have been lifting for 6 years. My strength has gone up. Ive gained muscle. Gone up a shirt size. Im doing heavy weight, low reps. Occasionally i do 8-10 reps on accessory movements only, but 95% of training is 6 or less reps. So yeah, this info is solid. .
I would love to hear his explanation on what a natural's diet should be when cutting and when bulking, compared to an enhanced lifter. I really like the way he explains.
Good to see this guy receiving such positive feedback. I remember he was one of very few people who I took training advice from (a good 12 years ago) and it was one of the simplest, and most effective pieces of advice I still implement to this day.
i remember that advice, literally changed my life and got me in peak shape. so simple and concise too, it would only take a few seconds to type out. i wish everybody got it.
@@THIBARMY Could you please give us an idea on how much volume for a natural lifter per body part, per session? I know it's different for each individual, but how about a good starting point? Thanks
@@SuperArc13 There will be individual differences of course. Not only based on someone's genetics and training experience but also their daily stress levels. That having been said, a good starting range is 5 to 12 sets. Don't freak out about the wide range. It's to accommodate various intensity levels. The harder you push your sets, the less volume you should do. If you use an RPE of 9-10 (going to failure or maybe leaving one rep in the tank) 5-7 work sets/muscle is about as much as you should do. If you use an RPE of around 8-8.5 (leaving around 2 reps in the tank) you go do 8-10 sets/muscle is a session. If you use an RPE of around 7-7.5 (leaving around 3 reps in the tank) you can go up to 10-12 sets/muscle..
Looks like everyone agrees with my thoughts but I’m still adding. He makes so much sense wish I would have found him years ago. Incredibly valuable - Thanks mate
This man knows what he is talking about. Muscle gains always came after solid strength gains in the basic lifts in my case.Merci coach ça confirme mes observations!
I have been training for ten years. In my first three years, I was doing bro split which basically means each muscle trained once. I did that because of the fitness industry who lied to me at that moment and trainers on TH-cam who use steroids. In my third year of lifting, I start working out twice a week. At one time I would work out for strength (low reps more weights) and the second time I would hypertrophy (high rep more weight) session. Since then I notice massive gains. I would like to acknowledge you coach Chris for addressing this "Big Eleven in The Room" problem that most fitness figures are shamefully ignoring because they use steroids. After watching this video I can advise every natural lifters to subscribe to your channel and follow your advice.
Thanks for all this invaluable info. All delivered with passion. I've read all his books religiously and learned a lot each time. On top of being a generous and extremely knowledgeable coach, he's also a great humble guy in person.
this is the best presentation on this topic i've ever watched. I trained VERY high volume as a natural. Then I went to a hormone replacement clinic. On my first blood test, my Cortisol levels were off the scales at over 600. After starting a 100mg/week replacement program (plus 1g/week arimidex) and decreasing my volume, i gained 13lbs of of lean mass in 12 weeks. I went back for my 3 month check-up and all levels were PERFECT. Free test had some very safe headroom so Doc agreed to increase to 120mg/week and now i feel AMAZING and results are still piling on. The clinic couldn't believe how high they were when i started and I couldn't explain why. WAY too much volume and i was hitting each muscle twice a week. Background info - i'm 47 and trained bodybuilding style for 2.5 years @ 6 days per week prior to going to the clinic. Now i'm 5'11 sitting at 215lbs at around 14% BF. My free test was 294 and estro was 64. After 8 weeks, free test was 425 and estro was 41.
Wise words dear brother!!! Continue to teach the many abscent minded people today, within the realm of how our anatomy truly reacts to stress within the so called fitness industry!!! Bravo Sir!!!
I'm not so sure about all your points tho, I experienced huge mass gains as a natural guy by actually focusing on volume instead of weights for 5 years in a row. Just switched my training schedule in favor of heavier weights and lower reps now though. Nevertheless, very interesting to listen to, keep up the great work :) EDIT: just watched more of your vids, you seem very informed about everything and I can better understand where your points are coming from and I must admit that I felt very related to the pros and cons that you described in another vid. Thank you a lot for this amazing content
Its brilliant, I've learned a lot of new information. Especially on contrast what enchanced bloggers usually recommend to natural bodybuilding. Was experimenting with training plan for a last year and come to realization that 3 times a week full-body, high intensity, 2 sets per muscle works best for me. You just prove my point from scientific side
Giovanny c i think he just wants ppl to really understand (not just hear) what he talks and means so he speaks more emotionally so viewers rly get the message
Great advice! Most muscle coaches out there are on the juice so the workouts all suck for naturals. Funny thing is I stated pumping irons when I was 23 in grad school. I'm 58 now and I have gained only 30 lbs of lean muscle over the years. I used the body builder workouts until about 5 years ago. I reduced my volume and reduced my workout to 2 or 3 a week. I started getting "Newbie" gains in my 50s. My body really responded to the less volume and more rest and reduced cortisone. I'm 6 foot 1, 235 lbs and my bench PR is 500 lbs wide power grip and 365 lbs narrow grip etc.....
He is dead nuts on! When I was young I bought a copy of “Brawn”. I benched 425 no drugs by short intense training. I’m 53 and out of shape but because the gains were real and on/off training I’m still reasonably strong. Great information!!!!
after years of training and barely seeing gains and now finally making good gains this is what i figured out to get rapidly build actually push yourself in the gym and follow up your diet
THE BEST COACH TRAINER . Why? because his knowledge, and ability to explain the truth in reality is spot on. He is an excellent example , I mean look at him!😉 Thank you for doing these videos 🙏🏻
I've changed my split routine recently so that instead of a three day split, working each body part once a week, I work each body part three times a week with less volume and hitting a different angle each workout...so for example on day one, I hit upper/incline chest, day two middle /flat bench on chest, day three flys for inner chest. Same principle on back etc. At 56, I'm seeing gains already so that's for the video.
Great info, I needed this. After some years of doing Stronglifts on and off, I recently switched to the Push Pull Legs routine (6 days a week). On PPL you mostly do sets of 10-12 reps. After watching this video, as a natural lifter, I'll pick heavier weights and to sets of 6-8 reps instead.
Well if you’ve been following him for that long you must have noticed he’s gained about 200lbs of lean muscle using different tnation supplement and training regiments over the last 20 years
he is spot on, im 100% life drug free, and used to do all that silly drop sets, pump sets ( 15-20 reps) , burns, and then at end of set do 1/2 reps till my arms or whatever felt like they were gonna fall off.... all I got was super super sore and after that ( 3-4 days) my muscles shrank to what it was before lol. ONLY when I started (clean form) heavier , about 8-10 solid semi heavy reps ( not Super heavy but a solid weight) and decrease my sets to about 5-7 total sets per muscle , I started to grow and I felt a lot better (more energy) love this guy, and im 48 and been lifting since 17
The best explanation I have ever heard. Retired bodybuilder that used both PEDS and natural. That's why a coach who specializes in pros and upcoming pros will not take natural athletes. Their programs will not work. I can use several examples but not the platform for it. Natural athletes better never ever use pro bodybuilder routines.
Very interesting advice for naturals. Most coaches and traning advice videos lumping together natural and juiced up workouts. While i learned in your videos that high volume release too much cortisol which prevent muscle grow.
this video confirms what i could see on myself in 10 years of natty, i only work out 3 times a week 2 times x week each body part, compound lifts mostly, up 4-8 reps the range in the compound , 100 sets x week more or less. what this guy say works 100%
Dumb ass statement. Proving testosterone helps aid fat loss aid in not getting testicular cancer due to low testosterone and a whole lot of other benefits. When you hit 40 u will understand.
I don't see how people afford the stuff, much less having to stick needles in yourself every week or every day or whatever they do. It would be great to have all those muscles. I just couldn't do it.
Ryan Crowley's Pec tear is one such real time experience that the enhanced trainers' muscles grow much faster than the tendons. But Christian Thibaudeau has been mentioning it since a long time!
I've been training naturaly for 40 years, i have found that recovery was the most important factor. Shirt drenching workouts are a must. Twice a weak will lead to overtraining. Blood flow sessions in between help with recovery. Super sets and giant sets those kind of workouts helped put on muscle, straight sets have their place to, shock and recovery in my experience have been more prductive than anything, everbody is different, a individual has to figure it out time put in.
youve said it yourself,it depends on individual adaptive capacity which is both genetic and influenced by training status,nutrition and age so nobody can say twice a week is overtraining.
I took steroids because I was addicted to exercise (not just lifting, but cardio as well - medium distance 3-5mi running, swimming, etc). Before steroids, I could only train between 1-2 hours a day at the intensity I trained at. With anabolics (and sarms, which I did separately), I could train 4-5 hours on my 3 off days from work, plus 2 hours on my work days. The downside is I would have to stop lifting for periods of time and do a week+ of cardio to avoid looking like a steroid user. It just wasn’t a look I was into, but I wouldn’t lie to people about being natty. I’d tell them I was on gear, despite not looking like the typical gear user
Yeah I haven't watched the video yet but there's a 99.7% chance that he's on gear, not that there's anything wrong with that I just got the impression that he's saying he isn't so far but I'm only a couple of minutes in
Last week T-Nation showed a research paper showing steroid injections cause some loss of brain tissue and IQ. I could never be so dedicated to a sport to make such sacrifice.
@@alsqudgus01 It is a laboratory observed phenomenon, a consequence connected to steroid use. This damage to the brain along with the other physical harm steroids cause is too high a price to pay to win an athletic contest.
@thibarmy I greatly respect your work and recognize that doing it in your second language takes a huge effort that you make to share with a wider audience.
I've done 3 of your programs with great results, especially strength wise, but I always end up with tendon issues. Probably because I work construction and push hard at work and the gym. I think I speak for every muscle building construction worker out there that we would love an article or video aimed at our specific situation. Thanks for the content!!!
One of the best generic templates for this imo is the original 531 3 set template 2 days a week. You have to do low volume because of the demands of your job.
@@Mikaeel84 I stand by my recommendation. Any sub heavyweight strength athlete is going to be pretty jacked; no such thing as "pure strength" or "pure hypertrophy" routines; theres a ton of overlap. Diet is key too. Or, get a different job that has less physical demand and can let you dedicate more time in the gym without injury.
ctsd623 - what world do you live in where you quit your job to suit your training, that would go down well with the wife and kids... Training in low rep ranges leaves you open to injuries no matter what anyone says, it’s not even a form thing it’s a yearly grind that gets you in the end. Middle road always wins, there’s no reason to go below 6 reps on anything unless your a powerlifter.
Mike S - I was a shipyard worker/competitive bodybuilder. Swinging hammers and lifting and pulling all day. There’s only so much abuse your body can take, i found once I hit 25 I was constantly injured, had to drop the low rep stuff, nothing under 8 upper body, nothing under 12 lower. Drop any exercise that causes problems, for me that was flat b/b bench, deadlifts ( switched to trap bar) , stopped squatting. Nearly 40 and haven’t missed a gym session in yrs, no new major injuries etc etc consistency is the key , uninterrupted training, steady eating etc etc
This is such an important, fundamental lesson. I wish I knew it 35 years ago when I was reading 'Joe Weider's Ultimate Bodybuilding' and trying to emulate the workouts contained therein.
Coach thib !!!!!!!!!!! You are the best coach that i have sein ever so far !!!!!!!!!! You just explained a loooooot.... I hade the same idea, but not orfanise, you just fixed evry things up ! Thanks you sooooo much, respect respect respect !
in advanced lifters who are natural protein synthesis is elevated for 12 hours max probably. For natty lifters who are complete beginners in the very beginning it is best to specialize in 1 or 2 muscle groups to take advantage of elevated protein synthesis. Which means doing around 15 sets per chosen muscle group every 2 days and do nothing else for other muscle groups.
This Guy is seriously underrated.. he deserves better
@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines If he doesn't, why do you bother to follow his videos?
Yes, my wife thinks I'm awesome.
@@THIBARMY Good for you, I been reading your articles from T-nation and they are fantastic but you seem to write much about steroids, which is awesome and most of them don't want to touch that subject because they are COWARDS... keep it up..
@@mariolp2999 Are you sure you are talking about my articles? I don't remember ever writing an article about steroids. I did write articles on the differences between enhanced and natural training, but that's pretty much it.
@@THIBARMY yes that's what I meant. I had an argument with Paul about his high rep barbell curls for building muscle, I told him that this only helps those guys that are enhanced and he went into a rage calling me an idiot....lol...
Summary: naturals need to focus more on 1. Higher frequency 2. Lower volume 3. Higher intensity
Since when did GSP start bodybuilding lol
Dalton Waggoner haha are you intoxicated
i was thinking the same thing xD
Even has the same accent
@@Vatrik1 Bruh I was gonna comment the same thing xD
I'm not impressed by your performance (enhancing drugs)
Probably the most genuine presentation on the effects of peds on recovery and growth. Just shows how effective peds are in growing mass
This is the most through explanation Ive ever heard as a natural lifter. Thank you so much! Subscribed.
Does he look natural to you???
Dude... as a natural lifter. Not from a natural lifter. Learn English.
@@peterscarlett1768 regardless, he’s just explaining the difference so it’s irrelevant
This is, hands-down, the single best video explaining the difference between Natural and Enhanced training!! Thank you, Sir!! I look forward to more of your content~ Cheers!!
I am subscribed. I have not ever heard a clearer explanation from anyone on how to actually train properly, and I have been pursing fitness boldly for 7 years. This is utterly astonishing.
As a natural ... This was exactly the information I needed...Thanks a Lot giant !
Well, im a natural 48 year old training strongman style, and i have been lifting for 6 years. My strength has gone up. Ive gained muscle. Gone up a shirt size. Im doing heavy weight, low reps. Occasionally i do 8-10 reps on accessory movements only,
but 95% of training is 6 or less reps. So yeah, this info is solid. .
That's training for strength not mass . Stick to 12 plus reps with a slow contractions for mass hypertrophy.
@@lcubandude you can still gain muscle when training strength
fantastic Im 52 are u lean? or strong man 20% or higher bf? thanks
@@lcubandude there is no difference believe me
@4amWorkoutClub best results I'v had when I was doing 6repx6 or 8repx5
Clearest explanation of the topic I've come across. Love when the paradoxes of a subject are answered away. PURE GOLD.
Tbh I didn't know about pump work was really important while being on aas, ....damn, I just thought it was always a good thing, wow.
@@chaosdweller Pump work made me lose muscle natty😂
I thought i recognized this guy's name; he is a regular contributor on T Nation. First time hearing him. Wow, great advice and simple to understand.
jovoN Oh wow, you’re right. I thought he seemed familiar as well
He is T nation
I would love to hear his explanation on what a natural's diet should be when cutting and when bulking, compared to an enhanced lifter. I really like the way he explains.
Must be freezing in that gym
lol
LOL, my nipple game is strong. My wife is really jealous. But yeah, it was super cold.
THIBARMY nothing but love for you bro. I was a huge fan of your work on Testosterone Nation and the Superhero program is one of the best around
I think you got his attention dude😂
@@ozziejim8472 he gay
Good to see this guy receiving such positive feedback. I remember he was one of very few people who I took training advice from (a good 12 years ago) and it was one of the simplest, and most effective pieces of advice I still implement to this day.
Jason wtf is the advice dude?
@@Bharat5834 LOL seriously.
i remember that advice, literally changed my life and got me in peak shape. so simple and concise too, it would only take a few seconds to type out. i wish everybody got it.
Wow - i watch fitness videos for like 10 years
This was the BEST, MOST CONCISE, VIDEO on the topic i have ever seen
THANK you!
I appreciate that. It still boggles my mind that some people claim that there is no difference,
@@THIBARMY Could you please give us an idea on how much volume for a natural lifter per body part, per session? I know it's different for each individual, but how about a good starting point? Thanks
@@SuperArc13 There will be individual differences of course. Not only based on someone's genetics and training experience but also their daily stress levels. That having been said, a good starting range is 5 to 12 sets. Don't freak out about the wide range. It's to accommodate various intensity levels. The harder you push your sets, the less volume you should do. If you use an RPE of 9-10 (going to failure or maybe leaving one rep in the tank) 5-7 work sets/muscle is about as much as you should do. If you use an RPE of around 8-8.5 (leaving around 2 reps in the tank) you go do 8-10 sets/muscle is a session. If you use an RPE of around 7-7.5 (leaving around 3 reps in the tank) you can go up to 10-12 sets/muscle..
@@THIBARMY Awesome! Thank you very much for your reply.
Looks like everyone agrees with my thoughts but I’m still adding. He makes so much sense wish I would have found him years ago. Incredibly valuable - Thanks mate
I just watched a bunch of videos on the topics and yours is by far the best and the clearer I have seen, you deserve to be a much bigger channel!
You are just amazing sir.... Very few people have this talent of delivering speech in so much cool way
My secret is that I learn from stand-up comedians! They are the best at creating an emotional response in their crowd.
@@THIBARMY agreed
This man knows what he is talking about. Muscle gains always came after solid strength gains in the basic lifts in my case.Merci coach ça confirme mes observations!
This is the most valuable information I have discovered and learned in the many years I have been training!
I have been training for ten years. In my first three years, I was doing bro split which basically means each muscle trained once. I did that because of the fitness industry who lied to me at that moment and trainers on TH-cam who use steroids. In my third year of lifting, I start working out twice a week. At one time I would work out for strength (low reps more weights) and the second time I would hypertrophy (high rep more weight) session. Since then I notice massive gains. I would like to acknowledge you coach Chris for addressing this "Big Eleven in The Room" problem that most fitness figures are shamefully ignoring because they use steroids. After watching this video I can advise every natural lifters to subscribe to your channel and follow your advice.
Finally someone actually being honest on TH-cam.Thanks
To the point, no jokes in between that get the audience out of the topic, real shit in 2 words. Good job.
"I have nothing against the use of steroids..." neither do his shoulders
🤣, love chtistian, but he shouldnt have said that
@Amazon I think people get angry more with the rampant lies than the use of roids.
😭😭😭🤣😂🤣 I was thinking just that,
@@DXultra exactly my point
Neither does his nipples
Only 9k subs (right now) and better info in 1 vid than 98% of videos ive watched in the past 5 years....underrated
These are the fundamentals I was looking for... finally someone who really giving all info instead of trying to sell himself.. Great video!!
Thanks for all this invaluable info. All delivered with passion. I've read all his books religiously and learned a lot each time. On top of being a generous and extremely knowledgeable coach, he's also a great humble guy in person.
awesome content, and even comunicating with the audience in the comments in a real, practical way, incredible.
Love this channel, new subscriber here! 😎 Have been following coach Thib since decades! Glad to find him back here!
this is the best presentation on this topic i've ever watched. I trained VERY high volume as a natural. Then I went to a hormone replacement clinic. On my first blood test, my Cortisol levels were off the scales at over 600. After starting a 100mg/week replacement program (plus 1g/week arimidex) and decreasing my volume, i gained 13lbs of of lean mass in 12 weeks. I went back for my 3 month check-up and all levels were PERFECT. Free test had some very safe headroom so Doc agreed to increase to 120mg/week and now i feel AMAZING and results are still piling on. The clinic couldn't believe how high they were when i started and I couldn't explain why. WAY too much volume and i was hitting each muscle twice a week.
Background info - i'm 47 and trained bodybuilding style for 2.5 years @ 6 days per week prior to going to the clinic. Now i'm 5'11 sitting at 215lbs at around 14% BF. My free test was 294 and estro was 64. After 8 weeks, free test was 425 and estro was 41.
Such a great insight. Explained extremely well! Ive trained my whole life natural and you have given me a new road to try and travel. Thank you
Excellent explanation. Never got from any other channels as clear as you did. Thanks a lot bro 🙏
This is Awesome man Finally I've found someone that makes so much sense
Wise words dear brother!!!
Continue to teach the many abscent minded people today, within the realm of how our anatomy truly reacts to stress within the so called fitness industry!!!
Bravo Sir!!!
I'm not so sure about all your points tho, I experienced huge mass gains as a natural guy by actually focusing on volume instead of weights for 5 years in a row. Just switched my training schedule in favor of heavier weights and lower reps now though. Nevertheless, very interesting to listen to, keep up the great work :)
EDIT: just watched more of your vids, you seem very informed about everything and I can better understand where your points are coming from and I must admit that I felt very related to the pros and cons that you described in another vid. Thank you a lot for this amazing content
Just because it works doesnt mean its optimal
Its brilliant, I've learned a lot of new information. Especially on contrast what enchanced bloggers usually recommend to natural bodybuilding. Was experimenting with training plan for a last year and come to realization that 3 times a week full-body, high intensity, 2 sets per muscle works best for me. You just prove my point from scientific side
The confidence of a professor, I can see in his eyes.
he just knows what hes talkin about
The arrogance of a professor maybe
Giovanny c he seems like a humble guy doe
@@CHLM98oh for sure, not hating on GSPs brother at all
Giovanny c i think he just wants ppl to really understand (not just hear) what he talks and means so he speaks more emotionally so viewers rly get the message
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Everything you said is real badass real world. This should clear up things newbie have done it wrong
Great advice! Most muscle coaches out there are on the juice so the workouts all suck for naturals. Funny thing is I stated pumping irons when I was 23 in grad school. I'm 58 now and I have gained only 30 lbs of lean muscle over the years. I used the body builder workouts until about 5 years ago. I reduced my volume and reduced my workout to 2 or 3 a week. I started getting "Newbie" gains in my 50s. My body really responded to the less volume and more rest and reduced cortisone. I'm 6 foot 1, 235 lbs and my bench PR is 500 lbs wide power grip and 365 lbs narrow grip etc.....
Wow, that was really perfect or near to perfect.
Best explanation I‘ve ever heard on this topic. Thank you so much😊
He is dead nuts on! When I was young I bought a copy of “Brawn”. I benched 425 no drugs by short intense training. I’m 53 and out of shape but because the gains were real and on/off training I’m still reasonably strong. Great information!!!!
Bruh, I used to watch your videos on testosterone nation ages ago then you stopped posting. Glad I found your channel
after years of training and barely seeing gains and now finally making good gains
this is what i figured out to get rapidly build
actually push yourself in the gym and follow up your diet
Hi Intensity - Hi Freq. - Low Vol. for the natural gains.
Been training for years like this, old info for me.
Good job TB. 💪🏼👍🏼
Best video on TH-cam regarding the subject
So we have to do low volume and make every set count.
I been looking for this info for 5 months tenkiu ❤❤❤
This video was excellent at explaining the differences, i need not to surf for more clarity
I think 3x a week, TB is ideal for the natural. CB is right. I agree with him.
Absolutely. If your intensity is very high twice a week can be enough on a full body routine.
This make real sense for my amateurish experiences....... Heavy fast intense..... Thanks!
THE BEST COACH TRAINER . Why? because his knowledge, and ability to explain the truth in reality is spot on.
He is an excellent example , I mean look at him!😉
Thank you for doing these videos 🙏🏻
I've changed my split routine recently so that instead of a three day split, working each body part once a week, I work each body part three times a week with less volume and hitting a different angle each workout...so for example on day one, I hit upper/incline chest, day two middle /flat bench on chest, day three flys for inner chest. Same principle on back etc. At 56, I'm seeing gains already so that's for the video.
'Inner chest' lmao
Great info, I needed this.
After some years of doing Stronglifts on and off, I recently switched to the Push Pull Legs routine (6 days a week).
On PPL you mostly do sets of 10-12 reps. After watching this video, as a natural lifter, I'll pick heavier weights and to sets of 6-8 reps instead.
been following this mans information since i found T-nation about 11 years ago lol i think it was T-muscle then.
Well if you’ve been following him for that long you must have noticed he’s gained about 200lbs of lean muscle using different tnation supplement and training regiments over the last 20 years
@@mossoconnor4417 idk man. he doesnt look anywhere near 450 lbs lol
This is so good!, no wonder Eric Bugenhagen is such a beast he have been doing this for years!
Its a MINDSET!
Solution to this is stop being obsessed with "natty bs" do whatever it takes to reach your goals
@Andrew Evans plataus are normal an I've like to take at least one rest day.
he is spot on, im 100% life drug free, and used to do all that silly drop sets, pump sets ( 15-20 reps) , burns, and then at end of set do 1/2 reps till my arms or whatever felt like they were gonna fall off.... all I got was super super sore and after that ( 3-4 days) my muscles shrank to what it was before lol. ONLY when I started (clean form) heavier , about 8-10 solid semi heavy reps ( not Super heavy but a solid weight) and decrease my sets to about 5-7 total sets per muscle , I started to grow and I felt a lot better (more energy) love this guy, and im 48 and been lifting since 17
If GSP and Vin Diesel fusion
who is GSP???
@@sugarlife485 George St-Pierre
@@pwjansevanvuuren409 ???? whoooo is he an actor?
UFC fighter honestly it's not hard to ask Google who GSP is
@@pwjansevanvuuren409 i dont googoo
Très bonnes explications que l'on trouve rarement dans le monde du fitness.
The way he talks, just like luimarco
on a daly baby pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaase
The best explanation I have ever heard. Retired bodybuilder that used both PEDS and natural. That's why a coach who specializes in pros and upcoming pros will not take natural athletes. Their programs will not work. I can use several examples but not the platform for it. Natural athletes better never ever use pro bodybuilder routines.
Very interesting advice for naturals. Most coaches and traning advice videos lumping together natural and juiced up workouts. While i learned in your videos that high volume release too much cortisol which prevent muscle grow.
this video confirms what i could see on myself in 10 years of natty, i only work out 3 times a week 2 times x week each body part, compound lifts mostly, up 4-8 reps the range in the compound , 100 sets x week more or less. what this guy say works 100%
5:18 The M..less
haha but jokes aside this guys gives great info and knows what he’s saying
Chris thib is fantastic. I learnt all this through trial and error and I wish I had this video 10 years ago when I started lifting weights.
The average person shouldn't even consider using gear. Gear is for professional builders.
True, but how do you become pro without using gear?
That's a stupid ass statement
The guy in the video is on gear and hes no pro.
Dumb ass statement. Proving testosterone helps aid fat loss aid in not getting testicular cancer due to low testosterone and a whole lot of other benefits. When you hit 40 u will understand.
I don't see how people afford the stuff, much less having to stick needles in yourself every week or every day or whatever they do. It would be great to have all those muscles. I just couldn't do it.
You literally helped me thank you from depth of my heart
I love every minute of this. Explains a lot about why I wasn't making progress when I was 19 doing the arnold or ronnie coleman bodybuilding routines.
Ryan Crowley's Pec tear is one such real time experience that the enhanced trainers' muscles grow much faster than the tendons.
But Christian Thibaudeau has been mentioning it since a long time!
That happened to bill kazmaeir as well
I've been training naturaly for 40 years, i have found that recovery was the most important factor. Shirt drenching workouts are a must. Twice a weak will lead to overtraining. Blood flow sessions in between help with recovery. Super sets and giant sets those kind of workouts helped put on muscle, straight sets have their place to, shock and recovery in my experience have been more prductive than anything, everbody is different, a individual has to figure it out time put in.
youve said it yourself,it depends on individual adaptive capacity which is both genetic and influenced by training status,nutrition and age so nobody can say twice a week is overtraining.
This is one of the best explanations I have ever heard....my compliments to a brilliant man
I took steroids because I was addicted to exercise (not just lifting, but cardio as well - medium distance 3-5mi running, swimming, etc). Before steroids, I could only train between 1-2 hours a day at the intensity I trained at. With anabolics (and sarms, which I did separately), I could train 4-5 hours on my 3 off days from work, plus 2 hours on my work days. The downside is I would have to stop lifting for periods of time and do a week+ of cardio to avoid looking like a steroid user. It just wasn’t a look I was into, but I wouldn’t lie to people about being natty. I’d tell them I was on gear, despite not looking like the typical gear user
Omeo-STAAAASIS!
Sometimes, it is the small channels here on TH-cam who gives us great advice.
The guy is talking as it isn't juiced to the gills
perky nipples ::)))
Yeah I haven't watched the video yet but there's a 99.7% chance that he's on gear, not that there's anything wrong with that I just got the impression that he's saying he isn't so far but I'm only a couple of minutes in
He's admitted to being on it before
@@stephen8996 99.7? You don't get round shoulders like that by eating chicken breast ever meal.
The best explanation of natural v steroid training I’ve ever heard. just what I’ve been looking thanks man.
after athleanx , mountaindog1 , stan effarding. I am so glad I found you, radiating best fitness knowledge around, Thanks man :)
he's better than all of them, and its not even close
Is it me or does this guy look like Vin Diesel 😂
Vin Diesel wishes he looked like this guy
This guy spits gold from his mouth...
This guy is so fucking smart. I'd hire him in a heartbeat.
Last week T-Nation showed a research paper showing steroid injections cause some loss of brain tissue and IQ. I could never be so dedicated to a sport to make such sacrifice.
Bullshit
How does that make any sense
@@alsqudgus01 It is a laboratory observed phenomenon, a consequence connected to steroid use. This damage to the brain along with the other physical harm steroids cause is too high a price to pay to win an athletic contest.
@@hansmuller4266 Wieso? Hast du Gegenbeweise?
@thibarmy I greatly respect your work and recognize that doing it in your second language takes a huge effort that you make to share with a wider audience.
he looks like vin diesel
just discovered you...one of the best lectures on true building of the body I have ever watched. Thanks for this
happy new year from NYC!
I've done 3 of your programs with great results, especially strength wise, but I always end up with tendon issues. Probably because I work construction and push hard at work and the gym. I think I speak for every muscle building construction worker out there that we would love an article or video aimed at our specific situation. Thanks for the content!!!
One of the best generic templates for this imo is the original 531 3 set template 2 days a week. You have to do low volume because of the demands of your job.
@@ctsd623 yeah but that's for strength for the most part and I'm mainly concerned with building muscle and looking good.
@@Mikaeel84 I stand by my recommendation. Any sub heavyweight strength athlete is going to be pretty jacked; no such thing as "pure strength" or "pure hypertrophy" routines; theres a ton of overlap. Diet is key too. Or, get a different job that has less physical demand and can let you dedicate more time in the gym without injury.
ctsd623 - what world do you live in where you quit your job to suit your training, that would go down well with the wife and kids...
Training in low rep ranges leaves you open to injuries no matter what anyone says, it’s not even a form thing it’s a yearly grind that gets you in the end. Middle road always wins, there’s no reason to go below 6 reps on anything unless your a powerlifter.
Mike S - I was a shipyard worker/competitive bodybuilder. Swinging hammers and lifting and pulling all day. There’s only so much abuse your body can take, i found once I hit 25 I was constantly injured, had to drop the low rep stuff, nothing under 8 upper body, nothing under 12 lower. Drop any exercise that causes problems, for me that was flat b/b bench, deadlifts ( switched to trap bar) , stopped squatting.
Nearly 40 and haven’t missed a gym session in yrs, no new major injuries etc etc consistency is the key , uninterrupted training, steady eating etc etc
As a natural，this is the true useful knowledge. Thanks a lot
Great information. Thanks, coach!
Not because my name is also Christian, I have always like Christian Thibaudeau, he knows his stuff and can convey his knowledge. Thank you.
Ok ok ok..!! I'm more than sold now...
Enhanced is the way to go! Thanks.
LOL
Ya this is why I see juicers doing such easy stuff taking it east getting insane pumps lol.
Ever since I’m doing one rep to 4 reps I’m getting bigger and stronger getting more energy
Good explanation bro i'm 20 years natural bodybuilder of training i have Good result
Great explanation of this, and without the use of the letter h.
This is such an important, fundamental lesson. I wish I knew it 35 years ago when I was reading 'Joe Weider's Ultimate Bodybuilding' and trying to emulate the workouts contained therein.
This is the best vid i've watched on this topic! thanks Coach Thib
Coach thib !!!!!!!!!!!
You are the best coach that i have sein ever so far !!!!!!!!!!
You just explained a loooooot....
I hade the same idea, but not orfanise, you just fixed evry things up !
Thanks you sooooo much, respect respect respect !
This is golden, especially for those of us past 50! @Coach Christian Thibaudeau - Thibarmy
Excellent, informative and clearly illustrates the changes I need to adopt! 👍
in advanced lifters who are natural protein synthesis is elevated for 12 hours max probably. For natty lifters who are complete beginners in the very beginning it is best to specialize in 1 or 2 muscle groups to take advantage of elevated protein synthesis. Which means doing around 15 sets per chosen muscle group every 2 days and do nothing else for other muscle groups.