Open FFBoard DIY FFB | Full DD wheel build with SEM HR115 and TMC4671 (DIY Force feedback)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- Full build of a direct drive wheel using the Open FFBoard with setup and demos.
This is a very long video so feel free to check use the chapter selection.
Keep in mind this project is work in progress and at some point some scenes may not be accurate anymore.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:43 JLCPCB and boards
1:20 Ideas
5:21 TMC driver connections
11:54 Building
19:55 Power supply scheme
22:20 Software and motor setup
26:46 Power up and settings
30:59 Input sources
36:18 Emergency stop
37:36 Wheel mount and test
39:37 Drifting
42:19 Karting
46:14 Outro
Links:
Elecrow store: www.elecrow.com/open-ffboard-...
Order your boards on JLCPCB: jlcpcb.com/DYE
Github Firmware: github.com/Ultrawipf/OpenFFBoard
Github Hardware: github.com/Ultrawipf/OpenFFBo...
Github GUI: github.com/Ultrawipf/OpenFFBo...
Discord: / discord
Patreon: / gigawipf
Donate: paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=...
Music:
Space Flight by Tim Beek (timbeek.com)
Driftmaster by Shane Ivers (silvermansound.com) - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
I am stunned by your amount of knowledge of every component in great detail. Thats amazing.
Excelent, like always!!! Nice progress! Congrats!!
THANKS FOR PUTTING YOUR TIME INTO THIS
Is their a full part list for a build like that somewhere?
Awesome work
awesome work, the engine is very strong !!!!!
Great work!
Thanks a lot! I have a STM32 Discovery + VSD setup and just replace the MMOS firmware with yours. The result is really good!
Is the stm32f407?
What driver are you using with your motor?
I'm quite interested in the pcb's progress since i might get a mige motor to replace my old g27 and also JLCPCB mentions on the quick quote that it only assembles one side, so i'm hoping i don't need to solder the tinier parts since i don't have the tools
congrats, amazing work u 've done. what have u studied to develop all those boards and software? are u an engineer? what i need to know to be able to develop my own board and software stuff
He wrights in his bio: computer engineer student
Its possíble use a stm32f4 Discovery board and do manualy wiring, pwm, Dir, encoders, for dont need tô do this PCI?
hi, your project is very good and powerful, can I ask if I have a stm32f407vet6 board, can it be connected to your project, and how to pin the pins as well?
hi i have a Nema 34-2 phase stepper motor, 12.5m closed loop servo driver kit, adaptable to 86HB250-156B 86 motor of HB860H model. My question is could I do the same simulator that you explain in this video. Thank you
hmm, but for center can be use a hall efect sensor for first center position? or how his is calibrating at boot?
I want to know if I use a mige-80ST small motor, how do I wire it, between the TMC board and the STM32 board, and between the STM32 and the motor. I see that you use some modules, I don’t know if it is necessary. , Forgive my lack of knowledge, hope to get some advice
What a great project!! unfortunately the Microcontroller like almost any other cpu isn't available at the moment due to shortage.
I order and buildup the pcb's and hopefully the controller is back in stock soon.(Edit. After calling my local electronic parts store I found out that the controller is available around may.)
Niceee, do you have it fully put together now? What was the full cost for the DD motor + controllers?
i love watching these videos it make me feel smarter but the truth of the matter is that i dont understand a damn thing that going on i have most of the components to build a ffb wheel but would greatly benefit from a dulled down simpler video especially when you get into software my head spins.,,. anyhoo good videos my man!!! what do you have like 5 grand into steering servos now with all these videos haha.
how do you attach a wheel to the shaft
or what is the part called
Can I use a nema-type stepper motor with the TMC driver and Open FF Board to build a force feedback wheel?
check the older videos, he was using nema35 AFAIK
i need to ask, how do you make the HID soaftwre and how to do you make it works as a pc wheel? is awesome. i want to try to make my own code just fur fun but i have no idea how HID protocol works.
Watch his older videos. He explains it in detail. I think it was the initial project video.
is it possible that your link on JLCPCB is broken ?
So I have a question. Is it possible to assemble the ffboard and motor driver if I ordered all the parts from your excel files and order non assembled pcb from jlc? Or is it more complex than that?
In theory yes but at the moment many parts are a bit hard to get.
Hi sir how to fix emi noi for pedal loadcell because of servo sir?
Will that driver work with other types of bldcs? Like hoverboard outrunner motors or big outrunners? Cause they have a good torque and they re cheap compared to ac servos
yes if you manage to mount a high res encoder. with only hall sensors it won't be smooth
@@Gigawipf when will u have those ffboard for sale? where are u going to keep us updated bout that?
@@leonardoaugusto5491 I will keep you updated. Can't promise anything yet. Many parts are out of stock at the moment and there is still a lot of work to do
Can I use a Nema 34 8.5Nm 86HS85N motor (one of the cheap ones form china)
Where can buy FFBoard?!
Do you notice the steps when you turn the wheel or it is smooth like with a servo motor or the steps are so small that they are practically negligible?
You don't feel the steps like when normally stepping a stepper but you do feel the step points when the force gets stronger. Kind of like a belt that has low friction but does not match the gears right. Its usable but the servo is smoother.
@@Gigawipf You surely know the MMos firmware. I have been used it for a week with the AASD 30A driver and like it so far. It is a pity that the developer is no longer active. Fortunately your project seems to be very promising. Could you somehow compare the ffb quality of MMos and Open FFBoard when using servo motors? for instance on the well-known MIGE motor. Of course I hope your board can deliver more (better)
I also have a heavy Nema 42 stepper motor (30 Nm holding torque). Should Open FFBoard work on it, shouldn't it?
@@jackneill8233 Same features as mmos should be available. (PWM out, abn encoder in, buttons, analog axes, effects...)
Tuning of the effects may be different and there is active development to get it as good as possible.
I can not directly compare because i don't have a driver with PWM input for servos at the moment but people said its similar and mmos filtering is more aggressive but i can not confirm that. Filters are tunable in the FFBoard.
If a motor works depends on your driver. With the TMC and an encoder yes. Otherwise you need a driver with FOC capability and PWM input.
@@Gigawipf Thank you. What is TMC, FOC?
@@jackneill8233 Our driver is based on the TMC4671 which is a FOC (Field oriented control) driver. You need foc for actual torque control at stall speed which you need for FFB. Most stepper drivers can not do that but the tmc can which is why its used.
Hi...how can i get your encoder to buy?
Can you make it easy for us to buy a kit or something from you? affiliate links? Anything.
Can i upgrade motor
Wenn der Motor dir nicht die Finger brechen kann ist es nicht realistisch! :)
Great what is a good price for such a Motor ?
They are sometimes on ebay for about 100€ which is a very good price.
But they are not made anymore and would have cost >1000€ when new.
@@Gigawipf thanks 😊
Can I get a tutorial video
Does the servo motor need to have a brake?
no it is better without
@@Gigawipf ok, thanks!
Whats the resolution of the encoder?
33.5mio CPR via endat but i used SinCos. Can't say exactly how much is actually usable and not noise but its somewhere in the millions too.
Hello I can't connect the device to the software! Can you help me ?thank you
Check out our discord and let us know what exactly the issue is and we can help you
Nm?
Is this a DC or ac motor?
3 phase AC motor. But powered by DC with this motor driver like a typical "Brushless DC motor".
@@Gigawipf thanks for the quick reply and absolutely incredible work.
I have one more question if you don't mind me asking. Would this system work with a motor being single phase or split phase ? Because I have single phase ac motors with similar power specifications readily available for free.
@@vieth06 No this would not work if they are wired differently.
@@Gigawipf dang that is unfortunate because I have a single phase ac with a high res encoder mounted directly to the shaft and 3 phase motors are hard to get and are pretty much just in industrial applications
@@vieth06 Well the driver would also support DC motors and 2 phase steppers. But a single phase AC motor will likely rely on the grid frequency for timing so that would be an entirely different way of operation you can't control with a driver like this.
If it also runs on DC you would have a chance. But then you could also get away with a simpler driver and may not need the TMC.
Me and my friend want to buy
Very good.Can you make one for me?
Its not production ready at the moment but i may be able to make kits at some point.
@@Gigawipf there will be big demand for these!
So how much would I have to pay for you to do me a DD wheel base? Lol