Yeah did my own as well. Breaker box was 40+ feet from garage...copper was the most expensive part. I installed an outlet and used the mobile charger that came with the car and purchased a 220 cable. Still get about 30miles per hour. Total cost was less than $400
I'm glad you hired a "pro", but I you'd be better off with a Tesla certified pro. 6/3 NMb cable is only rated for 55 amps. It shouldn't be on a 60 amp breaker. We use 6/2 MC cable or THHN wire in steel conduit. Also, did he wall mount that thing with plastic anchors?
That is expensive. A friend of mine (Electrical Engineer) installed the charger plus another 240v outlet for my mobile charger and the parts cost $175. It took him approximately 2 hours and I gave him $200 extra for his labor that he didn’t even want to take. Total: $375 The lowest quote I got from a professional was $950. I think what I paid was a fair price.
Not when the wire is expensive. I bought 160' 4 gauge and 80' 10 gauge ground the cost is $400, the wall charger from tesla is $450 after tax is $483 and install it myself still cost a total of $883.
Not in the U.S you don't. I know in the UK where everything is 240v neutrals are required. My house is older and there are no nutrals on any of the 240v circuits in my house. New houses being wired only require a nutral because they have to be in an arc fault breaker. Which the breaker requires the nutral not the appliance. Source my washington state electrical licence.
It's 240V line to line (black to red). You get 120V line to neutral. No neutral required for this installation. Usually the neutral is just for if you have lighting or displays.
@jstone1211 What part is wrong? The fact that 3 prongs exist? Or the fact that the nec requires arc fault breakers on most 240v appliances now. Including car chargers. Tell me you know nothing without telling me you know nothing....
@@giles127 Neutrals are required in the US. In the event of an imbalance. For instance, your electric stove uses mostly 240 but there is a neutral, same for a water heater, AC compressor, etc.......and at the panel, the neutral and the ground connect at a common point, thus not having a neutral would be bad....you then become the electrical path to ground. think about it...
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Yet... 950 for basically a wall mounted extension cord.
Well yes but actually no... I own a Mazda MX-30 (EU ver) (i don't like Tesla's since big privacy issues) The "extension cord" version only delivers 100-120V @60hz(NA)(Split Phase) or 220-240V @50hz(EU)(Single phase) While the wall mounted thing he has gives out 200-240V@60hz(NA)(full Phase) or 660-720V@50hz(EU)(Tri-phase) (Yes that does mean a rather Minimal gain in the NA while the gain in EU is 3x (and basically the wall mounted NA Version just matches the "extension cord" of EU sockets)(which is why I don't see EV's working in NA anytime soon)
Running the cable behind the wall is a pain and takes some skill without making a mess. Surface mounting using pvc conduit is less ideal but totally doable and this job can be done by yourself for about $150 in materials from home depot.
I just installed what you described. PVC conduit can add up, it is easy to work with but must be secured every 3 ft. the wire should be #6, I would use THHN or THWN separate condors (no need for the external jacket on 6/3)...My cost to customer was $700
Fair enough but how much to replace all batteries? Also car cost? Will we need more power plants if everyone goes EV? Wouldn't that be counter productive ?
Batteries are covered under warranty but are rated for over 300k+ miles. Tesla now are cheaper than gas using rebates. No because it reduces carbon footprint. Instead of polluting everywhere, now it’s only at power plants away from cities, but everyyear there is more renewable energy so at the end it will be cleaner
The battery last longer than a combustion engine 300-500k miles. The cars are expensive but fun to drive. Most power plants idle during the middle of the night when everyone should be charging anyway. Its sounds like the news sources you are reading were written by the oil and gas industry bro.
😂😂, i did it my self today. 50amp breaker, 5ft of wire, and outlet total cost 80$. Its very easy.
My cost of install was 550.00 had to run 50ft of wire plus conduit and installed outdoor.
@@lilweezy110same. Wire costs almost as much as charger.
Yeah did my own as well. Breaker box was 40+ feet from garage...copper was the most expensive part. I installed an outlet and used the mobile charger that came with the car and purchased a 220 cable. Still get about 30miles per hour. Total cost was less than $400
I meant to see if your house is still standing
Need 60amp breaker
I would have just went for a wallbox plus. But more pricey, but it’s future proof tech and it’s not proprietary so it fits all makes.
6-3 Romex is not rated for 60A for continuous load. This is an illegal install
I'm glad you hired a "pro", but I you'd be better off with a Tesla certified pro. 6/3 NMb cable is only rated for 55 amps. It shouldn't be on a 60 amp breaker. We use 6/2 MC cable or THHN wire in steel conduit. Also, did he wall mount that thing with plastic anchors?
Proper wire that should have been 6/6/8 Romex in which is rated at 60 amps. The wire is NEC rates for conduit indoors and outside.
thats not alot of money i thought it would be more expensive 950 dollars is a lot but i thought and expected it to be like around 2000 dollars
Since when is romex allowed to be pulled in a conduit?
Since forever. Per NEC you can't run it outside but inside, like a garage, is allowed and common.
@@TrendyStonemy area this would be called. Garage is a damp location.
@@leighsowers5099 Crappy garage. I think you’re thinking of a carport.
Should definitely hire a pro. 6/3 romex is definitely not rated for 60 amps That wire does not even have a bushing on it. Good job
How far from electric box is the Charger?
60amp breaker, I though it too big for 6/3 wire ??? 50amp breaker should be safer
So many certified electricians installing 6/2 or 6/3 "Romex" for 60 amp breakers, which isn't allowed per NEC..
Right!! NM is not rated for 90C. THHN is the recommended.
@@House-m.d. why would you want 90 deg C conductors for a 50Amp indoors circuit...
Running Romex through conduit also a no no in my area. Esp in a garage
@@leighsowers5099 That’s not NEC. What country are you in?
The ampacity of a Tesla charger is less than 50 amps so it's okay to use 6/2 Romex
Wire 6 6 8 60 amp breaker It is the right thing to do and as Tesla indicates
That is expensive. A friend of mine (Electrical Engineer) installed the charger plus another 240v outlet for my mobile charger and the parts cost $175. It took him approximately 2 hours and I gave him $200 extra for his labor that he didn’t even want to take.
Total: $375
The lowest quote I got from a professional was $950. I think what I paid was a fair price.
The cabling by itself would normally cost more than $175.
At home charging systems, should come with the price of the vehicle.
EASY JOB TO DO. 240V OUTLET NEMA 14-50 installation cost doing it yourself will be less than 300 dollars. Save yourself $600 or more.
Not when the wire is expensive. I bought 160' 4 gauge and 80' 10 gauge ground the cost is $400, the wall charger from tesla is $450 after tax is $483 and install it myself still cost a total of $883.
6/3 violation
Anyone in houston that can install ford charger
The 3 in 6/3 is the number of wires. The 3rd is neutral... You need it for 240V...
Not in the U.S you don't. I know in the UK where everything is 240v neutrals are required. My house is older and there are no nutrals on any of the 240v circuits in my house. New houses being wired only require a nutral because they have to be in an arc fault breaker. Which the breaker requires the nutral not the appliance. Source my washington state electrical licence.
It's 240V line to line (black to red). You get 120V line to neutral.
No neutral required for this installation. Usually the neutral is just for if you have lighting or displays.
@@giles127 dude, you are so wrong on the neutral. need to rethink. Master Electrician and Professional Engineer....
@jstone1211 What part is wrong? The fact that 3 prongs exist? Or the fact that the nec requires arc fault breakers on most 240v appliances now. Including car chargers. Tell me you know nothing without telling me you know nothing....
@@giles127 Neutrals are required in the US. In the event of an imbalance. For instance, your electric stove uses mostly 240 but there is a neutral, same for a water heater, AC compressor, etc.......and at the panel, the neutral and the ground connect at a common point, thus not having a neutral would be bad....you then become the electrical path to ground. think about it...
Yet... 950 for basically a wall mounted extension cord.
Well yes but actually no...
I own a Mazda MX-30 (EU ver) (i don't like Tesla's since big privacy issues)
The "extension cord" version only delivers 100-120V @60hz(NA)(Split Phase) or 220-240V @50hz(EU)(Single phase)
While the wall mounted thing he has gives out 200-240V@60hz(NA)(full Phase) or 660-720V@50hz(EU)(Tri-phase)
(Yes that does mean a rather Minimal gain in the NA while the gain in EU is 3x (and basically the wall mounted NA Version just matches the "extension cord" of EU sockets)(which is why I don't see EV's working in NA anytime soon)
$950 install! You got robbed. Why did they charge so much? Did they have to do extra work because your panels were full?
Yeah do it yourself
6/3 Romex, in conduit in a garage (damp location), on a 60 amp breaker. boo hiss. For $950 it should at least be done to NEC.
Running the cable behind the wall is a pain and takes some skill without making a mess. Surface mounting using pvc conduit is less ideal but totally doable and this job can be done by yourself for about $150 in materials from home depot.
I just installed what you described. PVC conduit can add up, it is easy to work with but must be secured every 3 ft. the wire should be #6, I would use THHN or THWN separate condors (no need for the external jacket on 6/3)...My cost to customer was $700
How many times could you have filled up with gas for the cost of installing that?
How many kids have you killed with your gas engine?
15 times
My Tesla saved me $1834 over the last 12 months personally, vs a 35 mpg vehicle. Worth it.
Fair enough but how much to replace all batteries? Also car cost? Will we need more power plants if everyone goes EV? Wouldn't that be counter productive ?
Batteries are covered under warranty but are rated for over 300k+ miles. Tesla now are cheaper than gas using rebates. No because it reduces carbon footprint. Instead of polluting everywhere, now it’s only at power plants away from cities, but everyyear there is more renewable energy so at the end it will be cleaner
How much does it cost to replace a combustion engine or transmission? What happens to oil prices if there's a war or economic issue?
The battery last longer than a combustion engine 300-500k miles. The cars are expensive but fun to drive. Most power plants idle during the middle of the night when everyone should be charging anyway. Its sounds like the news sources you are reading were written by the oil and gas industry bro.
You right wingers are crazy