REVIEW: 2013 Acura TL SH-AWD on Everyman Driver
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surprisingly, as a TL owner, I totally disagree each and every point you guys made.
it handles great in snow. fuel economy is great, at low 20s. the backseat has tons of space. but the trunk space is very limited.
If had a 2013 AWD Acura TL for the past 5 years. Absolutely the greatest car I’ve ever owned. The all wheel drive in the snow is amazing. Nothing ever goes wrong with the car, and it’s really cheap to maintain. I am really I happy customer.
I'm not impressed with this review. The SH-AWD is not being paid enough tribute to. Also, this car is 5 stars on safety and reliability.
It's an AWD 4000+lbs sedan and they think it should get good fuel economy?
I usually like Dave's reviews, but in this one I disagree with a lot of the points the guys made. I have a 2012 SH-AWD with the 3.7, and with true snow tires mounted it's excellent in the snow. It pulls like a train, handles very predictably and hooks-up very well on icy/snowy roads here in Canada. No spinning and slipping when you leave a stop light, it puts the power to the wheels with grip and also mitigates tire spin so you can easily accelerate away. The engine is very powerful, and for a full size car it's quick. As far as the dash buttons, yes there are quite a few, but once you drive the car for a week you get accustomed to the ones you use most and it's really a non-issue. Overall this is the best car I've ever owned personally, and I would recommend it without reservation.
lol really dude???? really?? not a good winter car??? ITS THE BEST SUPER HANDLING ALL WHEEL DRIVE VEHICLE IN THE MARKET, LOL WOW !! THATS NOT JUST MY OPINION, ASK AROUND PEOPLE WHO OWN ONE WHERE IT SNOWS.. PROVE ME WRONG..!! YOU WONT.. I PROMISE YOU THAT
This car is a beast in the snow. I use all seasons and still no issues
how is it not the best for winter ....you guys sometimes sound like bunch of soccer moms talking colors on minivans
I love your comment!
I definitely disagree, I live in Canada I have Michelin x-ice tires and my TL handles beautifully in deep snow and ice. You can't expect all seasons to perform well in snow, all season tires are jack of all trades master of none.
" I think it's because you're a bad driver," the co host said. I chose my TL primarily based on its superior snow performance -- over the A4, IS and 3-series.
I have a 2014 tl and we got a pretty good dumping of snow in toronto and my tl shawd was amazing in the snow.
I've always loved this car and absolutely happy with the looks and performance. My 6spd. manual with awd is fun to drive.
Its not the AWD system its the tires that stink. Take the Michelins off and put some better tires on then you will be all set.
Some reviews suck. This is one of them.
All due respect when some one says sh-awd isnt good on snow and ice you can automatically toss their opinion out. Its literally the best awd system for snow and ice. I dont own this car but that's just a know fact at this point.
Got me up a snow somewhat ice hill while 3 others cars were stuck love my TL 😜
This car is awesome in every respect! They fail as reviewers. The head cushions actually lean forward to support you during normal driving and will prevent whiplash by leaning forward more just before a rearend collision. I couldn't find a better designed car in 12 months of looking for my next used vehicle. Wish they were still available new!
Great, thanks!
I love buttons. Vehicle handles well and very firm ride. Awesome power, had to watch the speedometer to avoid tickets.
The best and only sedan available with awd manual trans, with ebrake and not a stupid button . And great acceleration . Will keep it another 6 years
Hey you looking to sell it yet ? I'm in the market! Hmu. Would love to take it off your hands.
The complaints about the cluttered dash are from testers who have the car for a week or less. I can say after owning it and learning what everything does I dont find it overwhelming at all. Im Canadian and from my experience this car is very very very good in the snow. Tires make a huge difference awd or not.
rylan short how do you like it? I’m looking at one right now I live in Canada too
@sharam7 - This was my first time ever with a TL so I apologize if I pointed out some of the obvious features compared to other reviews... look at it this way, if this was the first video review someone saw... it would be new to them :-) Thanks for the feedback... I look forward to more exchanges - Dave
As a TL owner, I wonder if these guys even paid any attention to this car. They said so many things I had to disagree with.
It's great for Winter. I always feel very safe driving it when the roads are bad and the SH-AWD handles well even when I purposefully make it loose traction.
The trunk space is not spacious, it's rather small due to the AWD system.
Fuel economy does suck though.
As another TL owner, I agree trunk space isn't good...
The ability to not be able to fold down the back seats is really annoying
I live in Winnipeg and can assure you this car is amazing in snow and ice
the interior is too importy? and not enough german like? the fuck is this guy smoking?
Should be called an "Every Housewives Driver" Review...........Eeeewwwwww! Too many knobs & things! Eeeewwwwww! My Japanese car isn't German enough! Then you knocked it for MPG, and EVERY other competitor you mentioned gets the SAME MPG w/in 1 or 2mpg from it's 3.6 or 3.7 engine. Knock them too? and WOW....not a good winter car? It's BETTER than the G37x or CTS4 because it STARTS at FWD before adding to the REAR instead of visa versa.....I'm obviously not "every man". My last vid here.
I'm sitting here just laughing that sums it up
My wife drives a 2012 Advanced FWD which I drive on holiday trips. I returned 29mpg at 85-90 on our last outing. Great car, maybe a little firm for some but handles with excellent manners on the open road.
If anyone has converted a FWD to SHAWD please let me know. I have a 2010 MDX that convinced me it's worth a few mpg's. Safer for my wife in ice and snow as well as torque steer elimination. I found a rear diff for it(MDX) costing $200.00 with 29,000 miles. Used also in the TL SHAWD. Very Cool. MDX has 264,000 miles, love it.
@aquateen77723 - we'll try and add more driving footage within our video reviews - thank you for the suggestion - Dave
BEST JAPANESE CAR SEDAN EVER. ESPECIALLY FOR SNOW ❄️ IT ALSO HAS THE BEST FUEL ECONOMY EVER, BETTER THAN THE BMW AND I’VE HAD 5 BMW’s
I love this car, I had an RDX and purchased a 2014 TL demo with 6k miles last week, car is so comfy and drives beautifully.
I think it deserves a better rating. When they say it not good on ice amd snow it because of the stock tires are pretty bad. I do think that acura has to step their game up a bit on the power their engines offer.
Personally, I don't think a complicated dash is something to really gripe about. After a few weeks you'll probably be comfortable with it.
Do you want this car?😀
Oh yes I do
If you get it can I drive it
This is tt by the way
Ben Ayettey no way man
As an owner of Acura automobiles, I can assure you that within a few days all the perceived "clutter" on the dash and steering wheel, falls into place and operating everything becomes 2nd nature. Takes a little getting used to if you're coming from a different make of car but I promise you with just a little time everything seems to make sense. I actually love the look and function of the interior and dash.
Always liked your videos dave. Was wondering where you went when there were almost no videos from you for a long time. But i am glad that you are back. Great reviews.
I'm glad you are happy with your choice. Thank you for the feedback. I'm waiting now to see them unveil the TLX for future consideration.
You guys are doing a good job! Will continue to watch in the future and give further feedback. Good luck!
Not the best handling vehicle in snow and ice? I don't think people seek to test a vehicles handling in snow and ice.. But traction.. It's a great sport sedan for people that see bad winters.. And offers spirited driving when roads are dry. Awesome tech and roomy interior combined with acura reliability has me looking at them
efthimios The bad handling in snow and ice is due to the shitty tires. The SH-AWD system is excellent.
I would've liked to hear more on the SH-AWD system and more driving footage, but I really like your channel a lot!
awesome car I have a 2011 might switch to a rlx in 2020 gotta see what they do with the new design
I really prefer the TL. When it comes about engineering I think Honda is better than Nissan. The TL interior is most sophisticated than the G (my personal opinion) and the Super Handling All-Wheel Drive is the best for this segment. Both are great options but I vote for the TL
Sounds good. I look forward to future episodes!
This car is not about fuel economy . Its about driving experience . Its got double wishbones in the front and a full time AWD system . It might lack rear rear wheel drive dynamics but its very close to a proper sports sedan .
Kinda missed the boat as far as the SH-AWD. This torque-vectoring system is the best part of the car.
@xcrunnerny - Honestly, I think it was the weather on the day. I would really need to drive it again to refresh my memory. I will do better next time - Dave
Well after driving one for years I know who's reviews i won't need to watch again. Its been the best vehicle ive ever owned and im 58. Feel rhe same about my wifes MDX SH-AWD
I have a 2011 and I still love it!!
Washington huh. No wonder all the videos look like it was filmed after it rained. Great videos btw!!
You can't be serious this car is a beast in snow
@ssj4goldengogeta - good point, it must of been the layout. Sometimes the arrangement makes it appear to be busier. Thank you for the feedback - Dave
You guys were reviewing a 2012 by the way. None of the 13's have the ACURA badge on the back as part of a brand-wide image shift by Acura.
Is this true?
Everybody's a critic! People, go test drive the car and make your OWN decision. You can't just be taking critics word for it. THEY don't like it, that doesn't mean YOU won't like it.
@istvan buda - our tester had All-Season Tires so we can't tell you about how it drives with 'snow tires', sorry - Dave
Thank you for the response. As of right now, I've rode in a g35 and test drove a TL but with automatic. The dealer didn't have a 6 MT. I need to test drive both for sure. Once again, thanks. Kind regards, DW
DAVE!! rockin the beard!
You just dont know this car's potential
guess not, thanks.
@FedererTKing - you're right. We spent too much time talking about buttons. We'd like to do some 0-60 runs and probably will in the future. We appreciate your feedback - Dave
@9abaizy - I'm sure it did... I think we had some bad timing with our weather. Unfortunately, we only get these vehicles for one week at a time. I would have LOVED to drive it longer. Thank you for the feedback. - Dave
The lowest I've got in my 2014, SH-AWD is 22mpg. 27.7 max, on the highway going 80 mph. Town driving, is 22 at it's worst. I have the 6 speed auto.
I have the 2013 base model 2wd. I get 30 mpg highway...not bad for a V6 with 280 plus HP. The car is fun to drive and handles like a dream.,
I was too, I almost bought the G. I choose the TL. I am so glad I did. My neighbor has a G now. So i got to ride in it alot and compare. TL is more spacous and up class inside and out, my opinion. The G is a nice car tho. Its much faster too! I still prefer the TL, Im sure your not going to be racing. And my neighor still cant beat me, so go figure.
When you were doing the test drive, did the TL SH-AWC have Summer only tires on? That could explain why the all wheel drive system didn't perform well.
"it (Acura TL) has that import feel as opposed to that german luxury feel." If anything this acura tl is made in THE USA and i believe that german cars also have an import feel?
Also whats wrong with having more buttons? When you pay for a luxury car you should expect that it will have a lot of options and thus should have more buttons which btw the acura tl's interior console buttons are nicely laid out and legible.
yeah... i know the zdx isnt a car for everyone and thats why they dont sell that well but they are one of the nicest acura pproducts ever. and yahll do an amazing job review cars and i dont wanna miss it.
Ok guys I have the 2012 version of this car in Portland Oregon and this review has thrown me completely off. You gave it a negative on winter and wet driving and that's what sold me on this car. On a wet day I have to go extremely hard to break the tires out of control. Its the first car to ever grow on me even more after owning it for awhile. Instead of for a day or so take it for a week and drive it hard and see how you like it then. Portland weather is nothing to me in this car.
I'm from the East Coast & I have a 2012 TL SH-awd with Tech and I just wanted to say it handled pretty well in the Snow last year, but that's just my opinion...
I'm up in the air between the TL and the G37 (6MT on both). It seems I've found other people are too. Any feedback would be nice.
At best, this was a goofy review not to mention contradictory. That's why I'm glad we don't depend on "reviews" before we go out and buy vehicles!
Will you review the FWD model? I think the brand competes with Buick, but I'm not exactly sold on the looks.
Just out of curiosity, you guys say this car isn't that great in the snow/ice even though it's AWD. Is this a tire issue(all-seasons vs snow tires) or is this a problem with Acura's AWD system all together. If you could, please elaborate on this as I am seriously considering one of these cars in the near future.
@abcdLeeXY - Unfortunately, we don't get our pick from our supplier... hope we see the Civic SI though - Dave
@FrancineRA1970, I receive cars in a random order. I can request a specific type but it's never guaranteed - Dave
Pretty sure this is a 2012 and not a 2013. I believe the 2013 doesn't have the Acura logo on the Trunk. its just TL and SH-awd
I agree. Some road testing was in order, especially about the poor performance in the snow.
What would be the incentive to buy an acura?
everyone says the dash is "busy"... with too many buttons.. nonsense. Once you drive the car for a few days.. you figure out all the buttons and they all work. much better than a touch screen that tries to cram a lot of buttons/controls into an LCD that gets all dirty and scuffed up over time. I was recently in a brand new G37 and it's dash looked plain and boring... everyone likes something differnt but I think the Acura interiors are just phenomenal. very high tech and classy.
I agree, and its easier to opperate than pushing a button 8 times for one quick functon, even worst screen on a touch device.
Come out to VIR with one of these, by the way, if you really want to see what SH-AWD can do. This huge car's exit out of Oak Tree will be a real surprise to you. Listening to your comments, in the video, I am surprised by quite a few of them. I am astonished that you can criticize the fuel economy or the handling in any way, considering the car's market segment. My B odo is lifetime at 23 mpg, and it's not uncommon for me to get around 30 on a trip. The design *is* about end of life, though
@srodevil2 - We have a 2013 VW Passat and 2013 Honda Accord Sport coming up next week! - Dave
I felt that way with the old beak front. Now, I think it looks pretty sleek. The previous body style was much more handsome. Lets see what acura does with the new TLX.
Does the automatic transmission model rev match on downshifts?
I've always wondered why reviews don't have a luggage, golf bag(s), or grocery bag(s) comparo where you could show how many of your comparo choice would fit in the trunk. That way you'd have an apples to apples comparo
Hey yo. U think yahll can get the zdx as a review?
I really want one of these
Hey guys. I'm about to purchase 13 tl sh 6 speed manual for California. Any one from California here with the same car? Can you tell me little bit more about their car. For example what tires would you recommend, oil type, and etc. thanks.
fullybuild
I have the car with the 6-speed. Buttons aren't a problem. Wish the trunk didn't have the large hinges verses the piston type hinges in some competitors.
Hey, Dave! When you reviewed the 2013 TL with a 6 speed manual, you put a thumbs down for the fuel economy. What was the mix MPG?
Randy Andieu Approx. 20 mpg in mixed. Are you in the market for one? - Dave
Yes, I am! I've obsessed and dreaming about this vehicle. I really wanna get a manual transmission of the TL. But since I live in North Miami Beach, it's not gonna be easy to find a TL with a manual. Right now, I have a 1999 Toyota Solar SE V6 with a 5 speed manual. But I'm gonna keep my Solara because Toyota run last forever. When my engine is RIP, that's what I'm gonna look out for the 2012 or 2013 TL with manual.
after seeing this review was not planning on buying a TL but after trying one i just loved it these guys are full of crap it handles really well in the snow and the mpg isnt that bad unless you only drive in town.
what mpg do u get?
around 24 mpg but considering its an awd personally i think its worth it
dank jr 24 must be around highways, in town I get 17 - 18. I love this car other than the terrible mpg
Haha so true my SH-AWD gets 17.5 mpg city
Worked awesome in MN /SD
Buttons are better then a touch screen and no idea where to go to get what you want lost in menus of menus
Vtec?
How to get ahead of other youtube car channels? review the 2013 Honda Civic SI sedan asap!
For some reason, some automatics have better fuel economy than manuals. I think the Acura TL with the 6-speed automatic with SH-AWD, has the EPA rating of 18 city/26 highway. I'll look at Acura's site on that. The biggest one is the Subaru BRZ/ Scion FRS -- their automatic is more fuel efficient than the manual. Any rationale?
Got it. Cheers. Just didnt want anyone who saw the video review for first time to get an impression that it has great trunk space. Apart from the rear view camera, the tech package brings no value for money. With their ancient navigation system, the package only sounds great, not worth the money. Overall though I love my acura TL. I strongly believe it offers luxury comparable to bmw 5 series at the price of 3 series.
Not the first time i have heard that about Michelins... Have never had a reason to justify an extra 70-150 dollars per tire for said brand, and have been very pleased with BFGs, and Nexens(came with my 09 Legacy from the dealer wont be spending extra for said brand when the time comes... I miss my bfg's)
Review the Acura RLX, and the 2014 MDX
Is it true they will stop making the tl and tsx?
It's unfortunate that you got your hands on this car after its day was done. The appearance redesign was a cop out. Unfortunately, the 2009 model year introduction came right after the economic crash, and the people in general really didn't "get it" as far as the looks go. In December 2009 I bought a 2010 model year SH-AWD 6-6. 66,000 trouble free miles so far, and still going strong. ZERO money spent except regular maint. That's probably Acura's strong point.
Drive an 04 TL (197,000 great car) however, almost time to upgrade. Found this video to be helpful, thanks. I may reconsider the TL or wait another model year.
What did you send up getting ?
Are you guys related to TFL car?
hows this car with snow tires?
Yes 🥰 it's a amazing car smood ride and comfortable and one of the best tranmission on the today
Does anyone know if the 2014 TL will be redone (5th generation)?
the mdx isnt out yet
beautiful!!!!
I have to say having a 2010 then a 12 and now a 13 , your snow problems are all tire related . Put snows on it and its a whole different car and while the dash may seem busy you get used to it. Also not that it's big deal but the car in the video is a 2012 not a 13
I think it was come down to the type of driving dynamic you prefer. The tl has a more sophisticated gearbox, the shifts are buttery smooth, plus Awd if you get the SH-AWD edition. The infinity has blistering acceleration in comparison, and is much louder. Personally, I love the speed of the G, not to mention the sound. Also, the Tl has VERY light steering, a little too light for my preference. The G has a sportier feel, please drive both b/c its just gonna be based on your preference.
Super sensitive steering, I like it. Just takes a bit of getting used to