Damn, the old school 3.5L V6 still packs a hidden punch! Great race, having three different generations of the same vehicle makes for an exciting video! Well done Sam
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 it’s old school if the power train is obsolete (at least in the sense of the TLX) which is a pity because it was a damn good power plant.
This was another impressive video...shout out to everyone who made it work especially being able to get those cars stock (without tuning) to verify the difference. As always thank you.
Thanks for having me it was a pleasure, I could have grabbed the new 2021 but after this video I'm glad I bought the 2020 instead. So I literally just want the interior of the 2021 in my 2020.
@@SAT1337 no sir...I have just wrapped the roof and mirror in satin black ....chrome powder coated my alloy rims, painted my calipers and have LED changing lights behind my front grill....even my staggered wheel step up came like that from the dealership.
@@IZRAW Ah ok, must have been the TL then with that intake sound. I have the same car TLX A-Spec SH-AWD though it's a 19'. Did you install those LED lights behind the grill yourself?
@@dentpulla You keep saying this yet you dont post a link or anything. Don't get me wrong, I know that TL is faster than the V6 TLX but you've gotta back it up.
At 0:35 just blows my mind how throughout the years the car became heavier with a smaller engine- less horsepower but with more gears in the transmission. I just wish the engines remained 3.7l v6 with more horsepower either turbo or supercharged. Is it just me or anyone agree?
4th gen ppl gotta stick up for their cars. I don't listen to any bad reviews or critics about "THE GRILL". there is way more to that car. It was ahead of its time and still a head turner for me. When they see the 6 speed monster rocking back and forth at the red light I get looks of confusion because they can't belive its a manual shift until she jumps and takes off. I love the 4th gen and even got the auto sh awd
I owned three 4th generation TLs and one 1st generation TLX V6. Will very likely own a 2nd generation TLX by next summer, maybe in Type S trim. Can't wait to watch this video.
The 6MT J37 TL was more than worthy of the Type S badge. It was significantly quicker than the 3.5L auto. Unfortunately Acura at the time was going thru a weird identity crisis: beak grille, hiding exhaust tips, testing out an "eco-luxury" image post-2008 economy. So they killed off the Type S badge.
@@msrr1303 better weighing 300lbs more? You swapped to j37 but couldn’t throw the 6 speed in there lol? If your j37 3g tl was 6 speed manual you would change your mind as it would be way quicker than a 4g 6mt
@@AcuraPerformance if you look at all the cars that came out during the 4th gen, nothing looked like it or matched its style. Ppl focused on THE GRILL and didn't even talk about the rest of the car which wasn't fair. It had features that cars didn't have and an engine that was on pace with European cars
@@keylkq6207 right? They'd be hating on the car just because of that lol. It's one of those either you love it or hate it. You really have to drive it to appreciate it.
Thank you for seeing the new gen for what it is. It doesn't stand out other than that big ugly grill. Other than that the car is plain Jane. The 4th gen stands out til this day. I still turn heads when they see it switching gears. Ppl pull up and I hit a gear and take off like a 🚀rocket 😁
@@EgguEd51 I suspect so, they tuned the 9 speed ZF in the TLX for economy, I mean I owned the TLX, the tranny wasn't that bad, it shifted slow especially in the first 2 to 3 gears, after 3rd gear it was better. I had to reset my transmission, it did a little better but not by much. The 10 speed sounds like it has much smoother shifts. The new MDX with the same J35 but with the 10 speed auto has proven to be faster than the previous gen with the same J35 but with the 9 speed ZF.
@@김동준-t9pno apples to apples comparison. The new one is larger in all dimensions, is heavier by 250-300lbs, and I think the engines is all new. I know the new pilot V6 is all new so I imagine the latest mdx also uses the all new engine. Either way 0-60 and quarter mile performance is almost identical between the ZF A9 and Honda A10. Check out C&D tests between the pre facelift Odyssey in a lower trim ZF A9 and higher trim Honda A10.
Nope, performance would have been identical. Check out C&D tests results between 2018 Odyssey ZF 9 speed and Hondas 10 speed. 0-60 and 1/4 are within .1 second of each other. Even fuel economy is basically identical. 10 speed only shows big improvement when you stomp on the pedal. It's quicker and smoother to respond because its logic is better. But in a drag race you won't notice an improvement. After 8 gears, more gears won't be that beneficial for performance or mpg. For example, 6th gen Camaro 8 vs 10 speed have pretty identical acceleration till 110mph. After that there is a slight difference because the 10 speed has an extra gear to stay in its power band. But again it's negligible throughout the 1/4 mile. Also mpg between 8 and 10 speed are less than 1mpg apart.
Agreed. The 3.7L 6MT TL was definitely a sleeper: it looked nearly identical to the 3.5L auto, but about a second quicker to 60 and 1/4-mile. It was the "Type S" of its generation, except only without the Type S badges.
@@alexismendoza1545 Exactly, good point there! I understand the revised SH-AWD is heavier but the car is still lacking power to weight ratio in my opinion. If they ever make a new ILX « compact sedan » in 2022 as advertised, I hope it’s gonna be max 3200-3300 pounds.
I had a 2020 V6 Aspec and now have the 2021 version. The V6 feels way stronger and I also got better real world gas mileage in it. I miss that engine big time. Overall the new car is nicer but the 2020 V6 is way better. Not sure why they got rid of that engine especially with how it performed with power and mpg.
@@AL-ib9yc I think he meant the 2.0t in the new TLX. Your 4 cylinder has a k24 with the dct, excellent combination, that 8 speed dct is lightning quick
I am happy with my 4G TL. All I am doing is weight lowering mods. Lighter wheels, better suspension parts. If I can find a lighter hood, that will be good too.
They really don't make a hood lighter than stock. Lots of people looked into CF hoofds and trunk lids but decided to keep it stock due to the price vs benefit.
@@meeralrafee1875 From 2012 I wouldn't say fixed, but improved on the oil burning. It still burns oil but far less. Plus it also might depend on the oil. My car burnt more oil using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum for whatever reason. I constantly trying new oils to see which works best.
3.5V6 NA is just way more fascinating than boring 2.0 turbo, in every aspect from power to smoothness to exhaust note! Can you add Lexus ES in this competition?
@@DWILSONBR-NOLA false, I've got 4.9s 0-60 timed on dragy. The auto is better if the manual doesn't launch, but on a good launch the manual is definitely a lot quicker off the line.
Been waiting for this for a long time lol! Great video! It does seem like in the last race, the 2021 TL Owner lifted early. A well driven TL 6MT SH-AWD should be running high 13's in the 1/4 mile and would be capable of beating the other two. The new TLX 2.0T kept up better than I thought. That 10AT and its shorting gearing may be the key to its launch.
The tlx 2.0 has wayy more torque with the turbo. Thats obvious when you see how well it gets off the line. The v6 cars start to catch up at high speed since they have more horsepower
Correct on the shorter gearing. Despite the 10AT being a torque converter it moves extremely well. Want the complete 10AT swap from the 2.0T Accord and drop it in a Del Sol. FB0, Hondata Stage 2 and the stock turbo. Such a cheat code in that car.
I'm sure I am in the minority but I actually think that the 2020 TLX looks better than the 2021. I don't know what it is and I can't put my finger on it. Maybe it is the proportions? I don't know. Anyway, great video once again and love that I am always surprised by what you will bring on next Sam! Keep it up!
Its definitely the proportions- I have a brand new 2021 TLX A-Spec and I love it, but the hood is comically long for no real reason, and the previous gen body style was better because it was shorter IMO. I've said for years that Acura could keep the exact same TLX exterior and just update the interior and it would be a slam dunk.
I think you should listen the new Type S lol, it sounds waaay better than these cars, not to take away anything from these cars, they all sound great tits just that the new Type S is on another level.
I picked the TLX 2020 to be the overall winner. I purchased a new 2010 TL Tech SH-AWD (don't ever recall there being a 2010 A-SPEC, and it looks like the one featured here was wearing aftermarket exhaust tips/finishers) with a 6spd manual and replaced it with a 2019 A-SPEC V-6 SH-AWD after the TL was totaled in a collision caused by a 16 y/o. As fast as that TL was, I believe that even though my 2019 is rated with less horsepower and has a slightly smaller engine displacement, that the 2019 is quicker. I've driven the 2nd gen as a dealer loaner and as much as I like how quick it is, displacement of the V-6 over the I-4 turbo, along with the 2nd gen's heavier curb weight, I felt would prevail.
I am looking at a 2019 V6 A-Spec/Tech...anything I should be aware of or to look for? This one has 40,000 miles and is under the recall where I believe the engine will be replaced...
@@seddyb412 I'm sorry it's just my favorite word to say.i don't like the fact acura let some writers start that grill issue on the 4th gen. It was unfair because sales were strong. Once color matched it evened out the look. This new stuff took no chances on styling. Just plain garbage lol
LOVE IT!!! So interesting that there's such a small difference between these three generations. Please do Type-S comparisons next!!! 2004-08 gen Type-S vs the 2021 Type-S.
Btw the new type s would completely leave the second gen type s (not second gen of the TL, but the second gen of the TL type s they made) in the dust. The type s back then is pretty much just as fast if not slower than the last 2 generations of the v6 ASpec and this generation’s 4 cyl. It’s kind of like how integras and legends today aren’t fast but they sure were fast 20 years ago
The race between the 2 TLX's is really j Is exactly what one would expect, the sloppy 9 speed vs the new 10 speed and then the horse power of the V6 passes the 4
@@ljpr360 its a ZF10 even then honda is still using the ZF9 on all there Trucks and SUV's acura should have put more R&D in there DCT 8 that was on the ILX and 4 cylinder TLX thats an amazing transmission.
No one should be surprised. C&D got 5.2, 5.7, and 5.9 for the TL 3.7 M6, TLX V6 AWD A9, and TLX 2.0T A10 AWD for 0-60 in their tests. Quarter mile times and orders were in the same order
2010 is my favorite. I remember being in high school thinking that was the best looking car. Now 10 years later, I still think it is an amazing looking car. it has aged very well.
@@AcuraPerformance way way ahead. You put the new garbage next to it and matches up almost the same minus a few new toys but that's it. Other than that I wouldn't even trade up for the new one. I'm just gonna keep my maintenance up and keep it unless they do another 6 speed
The TL SHAWD 3.7L (the silver car) when properly launched will run 0-60 in 5.2 with the MT. These tests only demonstrate one facet of comparative linear performance from a dig. For example, can we really say the car that traps first is the fastest when the losing car is actually running faster at the finish? Yes per that selected race distance, but mostly No. Extend the race and the losing car will overtake to win. Torque & traction wins the short sprints, but top end speed goes to superior hp-to-weight-ratio, to gearing & to lowest coefficient of drag.
I still have my 2010 6MT Shawd, its all in the driver's heel and toe that would make a difference in the drag race showcase here. No doubt that auto has faster shifts, but a V6 will eventually will blow a 4 banger. Good video.
It's the Sprint Booster that I installed for better throttle response. I had to turn it off for the normal mode run. That explains why my timing was way off. It also didn't help that my aftermarket shift knob came off, that's why I missed second gear on the first run. I think the 4th gen did okay considering the shift knob malfunction. That Sprint Booster is a great investment if you're looking in to it. A lot of times guy's would rather put money on a k-tuner but it also cost way more.
@@AcuraPerformance oh gotcha! I may have skipped the part where the sprint booster was mentioned. First run was way off, but the 4th gen really sticks it to the TLX's when you get the launch and shifts down. Acura shouldve put some more money into J37 research and design.
Great comparison. you’re doing something that nobody else is doing with racing different generations of the same model. That’s a nice comparison to see and if they made the new generation faster or not. But I like the 4cyl in the new generation.
The new 4cyl is enough for the car is aiming for. It ain’t no race car. Even the type s is slower than anything in its segment. Great looking car all around
As a 2012 TL 6MT owner, I been waiting for this race so thank you ! I raced a couple of the new TLX on the street and beat them so I'm sure this one can do better.
Still love my daily driver 2012 3.5 TL ,such a smooth ride and rock solid reliable.Bought it new and it still runs like it just came out of the dealer at 150 000 kms,plan to keep it until gas wont be available for public purchase anymore.
@@keylkq6207 yeah but I heard bad thing about the 3.7.They are not rock solid like the 3,5,that being said the 6 speed sh awd 3.7 is more fun to drive for sure.
@@pope9349 your exactly right. They have oil consumption issues that they fixed for free but was hard to do because it was a quiet issue not known. I chose to deal with these cars because other companies are trash in my opinion. The 6 speed has to be driven to appreciate it. The sh awd is so different than other cars that it went unnoticed
@@SManBlueLizard any 4th gen is a beast. Keep it my friend. They don't make em like that no more unless you want a dial instead of a gear shifter. Acura scared to be different now. Real conservative look on new gen. Doesn't stand out like 4th gen
If you had someone who could drive manual, The 2010 would have destroyed the 2020. Looks like he blew the shift at the end of the drag race and if he would have launched it at 4000 rpm it wouldn't have even been a race
i can see that the v6 is faster after some get up and go but I want to know which one handles better in every day driving? Meaning which of the TLXs are more willing to take a 90 degree turn?
Damn, the old school 3.5L V6 still packs a hidden punch! Great race, having three different generations of the same vehicle makes for an exciting video! Well done Sam
that's a 3.7
@@aoescool I was referring to the 2020 TLX running down the new 2021 TLX 2.0L.
@@chrisholmes344 It's not old school if it's only 1 year apart from the 2020 and 2021 tlx, to be honest lol.
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 the car isnt old but the j35 is an old engine,a pretty good one.
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 it’s old school if the power train is obsolete (at least in the sense of the TLX) which is a pity because it was a damn good power plant.
Holy shit! As a 2011 TL owner, I had NO expectation that my car was still relevant lol. Thanks for bringing older cars on the show!
I didn't know there were multiple driving modes in the manual TLs. I own a 2010 3.7 5sp I only have Drive and Sport for Transmission, that's all.
@@orangeVSappel there isn't lol. I think it was a weird mix of words where Sam meant the TLX was in comfort or sports mode.
@@orangeVSappel I installed a sprint booster that increases throttle response. It has 3 settings normal,sport and racing.
Agreed. My 2006 TL 6-speed was strong. Tangled with a V6 SE-R Altima early one morning, very close race... love the Acura’s!
I got the 2010 6 speed. Would not trade it for that garbage
I actually own a 2010 Acura TL: 3.7 liter V6 with 6 speed manual transmission and all wheel drive.... They don't make this kind of car anymore.
Incredible body sculpting on that car 💦 has similar body language to the Mazda style
Sweet ride
One of Acura's best.
I remember when it first came out, I was blowned away by it.
Yup. I had exactly the same with ATLP exhaust. Great car. I sold it to an enthusiast who was willing to pay 5k over my asking.
nice car...just fat and not too pretty.
@@gw4886 The New TLX makes these generations look like Bulemic Supermodels what are you saying
This just shows how well Honda was doing even 10 years ago, the J series V6 was always superb sounding and performing!
I wish they would've kept the old TL body style, but slightly updated it. I always liked the look of those TLs.
They should’ve just change the front end of the car and slightly update the rest of it
They need to bring it back with leds and modern interior or atleast give that look to the accord wtf
No man, the back of the old TL looked like the front too
I have one and I love it, 4th generation. I love 08 Acura TL type S bring it back!
For sure
This was another impressive video...shout out to everyone who made it work especially being able to get those cars stock (without tuning) to verify the difference. As always thank you.
Fake video. Didn't show real video of the 4th gen killing his trash push Button dial a trans garbage. Tell him to upload real video run
Man a 3rd gen 6 speed would of been awesome to add to the mix
Nah, you know why? FWD TL's will always be slower during launch.
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 true, but the weight savings are decent too
Wasn't the manual only available I'm the 200hp 2.4 4cyl? I think it would have gotten smoked. I like that generation the best tho
@@erichenry1472 Nah, I’ve got a 3.2 v6 with 6speed lsd in the shop now, and that’s just the base model TL
@@erichenry1472 swapping the drivetrain into a 7th gen accord coupe
Newer isn’t always better. The 18-20 has the perfect blend of looks and performance if you choose the V6
Your absolutely right I got the ‘19 as well💪🏾
Facts
But also the new tlx has the type s, which is probably faster than all these
@@ciello___8307The new TLX is extremely slow and I mean it ms slow it’s slower than all these V6 JDM cars
@@ciello___8307 No its not the car is just way to heavy
What about 9th Gen V6 Accord vs 1st Gen TLX which shares the same engine?
It's not the same engine. Unless you want to call all Honda V6 3.5 the same engine.
@@vasekvi you would be surprised at how many people think they’re the same engine
No, they aren't the same engine. Both are J35Y engines but different models with different specs.
I wanna see that
They’re very similar. 9th gen J35Y is port injected with 10.5 compression. The newer engine is direct injected with over 11 compression. 11.2 maybe?
Thanks for having me it was a pleasure, I could have grabbed the new 2021 but after this video I'm glad I bought the 2020 instead. So I literally just want the interior of the 2021 in my 2020.
Are you running a CAI in yours?
@@SAT1337 what is a CAI(Cool air intake)?
@@IZRAW Yes.
@@SAT1337 no sir...I have just wrapped the roof and mirror in satin black ....chrome powder coated my alloy rims, painted my calipers and have LED changing lights behind my front grill....even my staggered wheel step up came like that from the dealership.
@@IZRAW Ah ok, must have been the TL then with that intake sound. I have the same car TLX A-Spec SH-AWD though it's a 19'. Did you install those LED lights behind the grill yourself?
That 2010 body style was ahead of its time! Still looks good
2004-2008 body style still the best to me
@@robg4899 I feel ya but i don't think it's as timeless.
I think same thing to the look was so different from a lot of cars …I always liked the look
And he lied and didn't show real video. 4th gen guy sent me link of real run. Fraud video. 4th gen dusted that garbage
@@dentpulla You keep saying this yet you dont post a link or anything. Don't get me wrong, I know that TL is faster than the V6 TLX but you've gotta back it up.
At 0:35 just blows my mind how throughout the years the car became heavier with a smaller engine- less horsepower but with more gears in the transmission. I just wish the engines remained 3.7l v6 with more horsepower either turbo or supercharged. Is it just me or anyone agree?
Yeah it's ridiculous, I drive a modded RSX Type-S and I like Acura, but they made a lot of questionable choices ngl
You are correct. 4th gen dominant over new garbage. Bad shifting was The issue.
4th gen ppl gotta stick up for their cars. I don't listen to any bad reviews or critics about "THE GRILL".
there is way more to that car. It was ahead of its time and still a head turner for me. When they see the 6 speed monster rocking back and forth at the red light I get looks of confusion because they can't belive its a manual shift until she jumps and takes off. I love the 4th gen and even got the auto sh awd
He is a fraud. Didn't show real run. Dude in 4th gen sent me the link. He killed that trash. Fraud video
Can't wait, I love Acuras.
That 2010 Acura aged very well.
The 6mt aged even better, would love to see that race
The 2012 aged well. The 2010 needed a rhinoplasty
@@dmanatan It still looks good to me. I would still buy one.
Sorta yes
@@bryceharper8509 according to the intro at 0:25 , this is a 6mt race
I owned three 4th generation TLs and one 1st generation TLX V6. Will very likely own a 2nd generation TLX by next summer, maybe in Type S trim. Can't wait to watch this video.
Ehh so you owned 4 of the same model??? Unreliable?
@@dnegel9546 I owned two ‘12 TL Advance models and one ‘13. No problems with any of them. Rock solid.
Fraud video. Didn't show real run. 4th gen dude sent me link. Toasted that garbage. Tell him to show real run
@@dnegel9546 far from unreliable but they do have their limits lmfao
I really like the styling of the previous gen TLX. The interior didn't match the greatness of the exterior though.
Hell yah 4G ftw!🤙 There's no different modes though, it's always in Sport mode just need TC off.
I was about to say, my 4th Gen 6MT was about to be crazy if I found the “sport +” mode
First run it looks like the tl got a bad take off
It has a sport mode , and it holds the gears better
@@Kinggunna87 the tl was a manual 6mt Is the sports mode 🤣
@@makeshiftgarage1480 oh shit ! Lol
Who’s ready to watch the J37 take the new boys to church?
That would be cool the 8th gen accord vs 9th & 10th
TL SHAWD has a J37
@@vasekvi The TL, ZDX, and the 3rd gen MDX are the only Honda products to use the 3.7.
@@La-yt1wr 3rd gen mdx has j35
I'm saying the TL won. I love Sam but the TL got the W.
The best Acura sedan wasn’t a Type S.
4G 6MT J37 TL is king.
The 6MT J37 TL was more than worthy of the Type S badge. It was significantly quicker than the 3.5L auto.
Unfortunately Acura at the time was going thru a weird identity crisis: beak grille, hiding exhaust tips, testing out an "eco-luxury" image post-2008 economy. So they killed off the Type S badge.
Acura TL Type-S will always be and look better than the J37 TL... 3rd Gen Type-S with a J37 is king... the other one too heavy LOL
@@WTFVideos_4416 no. I had a 3G Type S. With a J37 swap. And the 4G was and is far better.
Have a few videos in my channel.
@@msrr1303 better weighing 300lbs more? You swapped to j37 but couldn’t throw the 6 speed in there lol? If your j37 3g tl was 6 speed manual you would change your mind as it would be way quicker than a 4g 6mt
@@Buhz93 the 6MT 4G is just 200 lbs heavier. Plus it has SHAWD and way better interiors. It’s a better car period.
The old tl looks more futuristic than their newer one 🤔
Great point. New gen is just regular average looking. Nothing touching 4th gen
4th gen was way ahead its time! But each generation has its unique beauty.
@@AcuraPerformance if you look at all the cars that came out during the 4th gen, nothing looked like it or matched its style. Ppl focused on THE GRILL and didn't even talk about the rest of the car which wasn't fair. It had features that cars didn't have and an engine that was on pace with European cars
@@keylkq6207 right? They'd be hating on the car just because of that lol. It's one of those either you love it or hate it. You really have to drive it to appreciate it.
Thank you for seeing the new gen for what it is. It doesn't stand out other than that big ugly grill. Other than that the car is plain Jane. The 4th gen stands out til this day. I still turn heads when they see it switching gears. Ppl pull up and I hit a gear and take off like a 🚀rocket 😁
Finallyyyyy the perfect drag race old vs new Acura’s
I think this should become a series taking 2-3 generations of the same car! Sam you rock!!
Would love to see : 3G 07-08 TL type-S 6spd manual vs 2010 6spd vs 2020 tlx aspec.
That's what I'm talking about!
Type s would win hands down
The J35 reigns supreme, and the engine would have delivered its power much better paired with the Honda 10 speed auto rather than the 9 Speed ZF.
That's the only application of a ZF auto transmission that has underperformed and disappointed. Was the Honda transmission software to blame?
@@EgguEd51 I suspect so, they tuned the 9 speed ZF in the TLX for economy, I mean I owned the TLX, the tranny wasn't that bad, it shifted slow especially in the first 2 to 3 gears, after 3rd gear it was better. I had to reset my transmission, it did a little better but not by much. The 10 speed sounds like it has much smoother shifts. The new MDX with the same J35 but with the 10 speed auto has proven to be faster than the previous gen with the same J35 but with the 9 speed ZF.
@@Heman88888 new mdx with 10speed is more than 1 sec slower to 60mph than previous gen with 9 speed
@@김동준-t9pno apples to apples comparison. The new one is larger in all dimensions, is heavier by 250-300lbs, and I think the engines is all new. I know the new pilot V6 is all new so I imagine the latest mdx also uses the all new engine.
Either way 0-60 and quarter mile performance is almost identical between the ZF A9 and Honda A10. Check out C&D tests between the pre facelift Odyssey in a lower trim ZF A9 and higher trim Honda A10.
Nope, performance would have been identical. Check out C&D tests results between 2018 Odyssey ZF 9 speed and Hondas 10 speed. 0-60 and 1/4 are within .1 second of each other. Even fuel economy is basically identical. 10 speed only shows big improvement when you stomp on the pedal. It's quicker and smoother to respond because its logic is better. But in a drag race you won't notice an improvement.
After 8 gears, more gears won't be that beneficial for performance or mpg. For example, 6th gen Camaro 8 vs 10 speed have pretty identical acceleration till 110mph. After that there is a slight difference because the 10 speed has an extra gear to stay in its power band. But again it's negligible throughout the 1/4 mile. Also mpg between 8 and 10 speed are less than 1mpg apart.
The 4th gen tl is a sleeper I’m excited
Agreed. The 3.7L 6MT TL was definitely a sleeper: it looked nearly identical to the 3.5L auto, but about a second quicker to 60 and 1/4-mile. It was the "Type S" of its generation, except only without the Type S badges.
Yes
@@nallis01 for the car being discontinued in 2014 model year it was fast, and to be completely honest nobody asked for your opinion.
@@nallis01 In it’s day...
@@TheBreakfastLover and without the Brembo’s
Just from that shot, I can see why the new Type-S is 4200 lbs...
New TLX is chockingly heavy compared to previous generations!
They are packing a lot of tech in the newer cars that makes them bloated.
And sadly they don’t have the power to push all that weight. The New Type S has 350hp but is only 200 pounds less than a hellcat
@@alexismendoza1545 Exactly, good point there! I understand the revised SH-AWD is heavier but the car is still lacking power to weight ratio in my opinion. If they ever make a new ILX « compact sedan » in 2022 as advertised, I hope it’s gonna be max 3200-3300 pounds.
@@alexismendoza1545 to be fair it's also 2/3 the price
That’s what happens when you stuff in that much technology.
TL IS A LEGEND!
Actually the TL was a Vigor
The RL was the Legend. ;)
@@ljpr360 yessir both legends!
Wrong the legend was the legend long live ka7
@@ljpr360wrong vigor was before both the legends lower end was a vigor eg ka7 with smaller engine
I had a 2020 V6 Aspec and now have the 2021 version. The V6 feels way stronger and I also got better real world gas mileage in it. I miss that engine big time. Overall the new car is nicer but the 2020 V6 is way better. Not sure why they got rid of that engine especially with how it performed with power and mpg.
I have the 18 and 20. Love the V6
That’s because that V6 is replaced by the new 3.0t in the Type S. The new 2.0t replaces the old 2.4 TLX
LMFAO you went from a 2020 aspec to a 2021, when genesis g70 exists, what a joke.
@@kenmeluso1952 yes acura went backwards, time to hop brands!
@@roboticvenom1935 the question for me is which brand? I was looking at Audi
The new TLX should’ve had that glorious direct injected V6 as a base engine.
Unfortunately the world has gone 4 cylinder turbo crazy
@@bruhmanjonesss7779 i find it hilarious that they did it for “fuel efficiency and emissions”. Yet the turbo 4 returns worse fuel efficiency.
@@msrr1303 the j35 is also way smoother and sounds much better.
MS RR lol that's crazy
Po Pe Ya the induction noise and V6 warble on the J35 Earth dreams sounded real good
As an owner of my 2012 TL and my recently bought TLX Aspec 2018, I’m so proud of them and I plan to keep both. Such nice cars…
I have both also.
I have the 12 TL sh-awd and now a 19 tlx a-spec sh-awd. Lovely cars just wish the exhaust was more aggressive sounding
How on earth you didn't find the automatic, but found the even rarer manual?
God this is one lovely video love it!! There’s rarely these types of comparisons and this ones one of them!
Thank you sooooo much for doing this video. It was AMAZING!
Those Honda v6 engines sound so good. Even if the 4 cyl is faster off the line, is it as fun to rev out ?
I have the 4 cyl 2019 tlx a spec and I can confirm it’s fun to rev out lol
No. They aren't and won't be. A 2.0 litres engine is too small for that size vehicle.
@@AL-ib9yc I think he meant the 2.0t in the new TLX. Your 4 cylinder has a k24 with the dct, excellent combination, that 8 speed dct is lightning quick
@@williamlevy1981 agreed, unfortunately, the world has gone insane and everything is getting downsized and switching to EVs
I am happy with my 4G TL. All I am doing is weight lowering mods. Lighter wheels, better suspension parts. If I can find a lighter hood, that will be good too.
They really don't make a hood lighter than stock. Lots of people looked into CF hoofds and trunk lids but decided to keep it stock due to the price vs benefit.
Does your have oil burning problems? If you have the sh awd
@@meeralrafee1875 My car is 2013, so the oil burning is reduced compared to earlier models. Yes, it is a SH-AWD.
@@raphaelfrancis4509 So they fixed the problem from the 2012 model years when they facelifted it?
@@meeralrafee1875 From 2012 I wouldn't say fixed, but improved on the oil burning. It still burns oil but far less. Plus it also might depend on the oil. My car burnt more oil using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum for whatever reason. I constantly trying new oils to see which works best.
2010 is king!!
The most beautiful!
The most powerful!and the most bang for your buck!
Love your drag races. Can we get a Acura 2008 TL Type S vs. 2nd or 3rd Gen TLX? Keep them coming.
3.5V6 NA is just way more fascinating than boring 2.0 turbo, in every aspect from power to smoothness to exhaust note!
Can you add Lexus ES in this competition?
He let off at the end. That’s how you caught up lol
Correct. 4th gen a beast. New stuff is garbage
That was interesting. So the oldest model was the fastest vs. both newer models ? Not sure if I missed the set up.
Exactly my thought. The 4th gen bad shifting. It beat the breaks of the new garbage
I love the 4th gen TL with the 3.7, SH-AWD, and manual transmission combo.
So rare so kool.
@@DWILSONBR-NOLA , i think if driver shift gears correctly, then the manual transmission is much faster. I know what i'm talking about.
I think that is the best TL ever
@@DWILSONBR-NOLA nope..those older Acura auto were slush boxes...always slower ..even less power to the wheels
@@DWILSONBR-NOLA false, I've got 4.9s 0-60 timed on dragy. The auto is better if the manual doesn't launch, but on a good launch the manual is definitely a lot quicker off the line.
Been waiting for this for a long time lol! Great video! It does seem like in the last race, the 2021 TL Owner lifted early. A well driven TL 6MT SH-AWD should be running high 13's in the 1/4 mile and would be capable of beating the other two.
The new TLX 2.0T kept up better than I thought. That 10AT and its shorting gearing may be the key to its launch.
Fake video. Didn't show real run. 4th gen guy sent me real link. Killed that trash. Fraud
The tlx 2.0 has wayy more torque with the turbo. Thats obvious when you see how well it gets off the line. The v6 cars start to catch up at high speed since they have more horsepower
Correct on the shorter gearing. Despite the 10AT being a torque converter it moves extremely well. Want the complete 10AT swap from the 2.0T Accord and drop it in a Del Sol. FB0, Hondata Stage 2 and the stock turbo. Such a cheat code in that car.
What real link@@dentpulla
@@ciello___8307 bull crap. He didn't show real video when he lost
I'm sure I am in the minority but I actually think that the 2020 TLX looks better than the 2021. I don't know what it is and I can't put my finger on it. Maybe it is the proportions? I don't know. Anyway, great video once again and love that I am always surprised by what you will bring on next Sam! Keep it up!
Yeah same I like the taillights. Everything just looks slicker
Its definitely the proportions- I have a brand new 2021 TLX A-Spec and I love it, but the hood is comically long for no real reason, and the previous gen body style was better because it was shorter IMO. I've said for years that Acura could keep the exact same TLX exterior and just update the interior and it would be a slam dunk.
No love for the 2010-14 TSX 3.5? I think it clocks slower than a 3.7 TL but I’d like to see how it does against the TLX’s
If its the 3.7L 6spd how are they putting it in sport mode? Gotta be the auto they are using. The 6spd should beat all of them no problem
It does, they just had a crappy manual driver
Would love to see more of these multi gen comparison
Should have brought the 3rd generation TL that actually offered the Type-S trim
Facts
Would love to see that
It would get beat by the 10, get walked by the 20, and neck and neck with the 21
@@klowenstein483 nope..with a 6 speed manual and a proper driver it will be close. the autos are actually slower..less power to wheels
@@gw4886 auto makers admittedly make the manuals slower with longer gear ratios
I miss my 12 TL. They get down! Low key fast. Great video!! Love this one!
If you can find another 4th gen Get one. New garbage can't touch 4th gen
I sold Acuras for a few years and a couple times I got to drive a 13 TL 3.7 shawd 6sp manual. That really is a special car.
Agreed! You really have to drive one to appreciate it. It's definitely underrated.
Epic video Sam.
More generation races 🔥
This is what I’ve wanted to see 🤩 made me like my TLX a lil more
Long live the v6
i agree 18-20 for the win!
@beansr7556 that sane motor in the 2015 2016 and 2017
Great comp V6 sound can't be replaced but the 2.0T tuneability is much easier. A simple K Tune and bang roll reversal.
Would’ve like to see these car vs the 2.0t accord!! Have a feeling the 2.0t accord might’ve won them all
Throttle house proved the 2.0t accord is faster than the current a-spec
Sam one of my favorite videos since I have exactly the same car with the roof wrap besides the aftermarket wheels. I enjoyed it
2:09 "Couldn't find an automatic" - you say that like it's a bad thing! That 6 speed 2010 TL is a rare unicorn and a thing of beauty!
Honda/Acura makes some of the best sounding 6 cylinders ever. I wish the new type s sounded as good as these
I think you should listen the new Type S lol, it sounds waaay better than these cars, not to take away anything from these cars, they all sound great tits just that the new Type S is on another level.
Yeah the new S sounds way better. I actually found the 3.5 V6 to sound bland and generic.
Saw this and had to watch, I own a 12 TL with the 3.7 and that thing gets up and goes!
Got the 2010 6 speed unicorn. New stuff is garbage
I picked the TLX 2020 to be the overall winner. I purchased a new 2010 TL Tech SH-AWD (don't ever recall there being a 2010 A-SPEC, and it looks like the one featured here was wearing aftermarket exhaust tips/finishers) with a 6spd manual and replaced it with a 2019 A-SPEC V-6 SH-AWD after the TL was totaled in a collision caused by a 16 y/o. As fast as that TL was, I believe that even though my 2019 is rated with less horsepower and has a slightly smaller engine displacement, that the 2019 is quicker. I've driven the 2nd gen as a dealer loaner and as much as I like how quick it is, displacement of the V-6 over the I-4 turbo, along with the 2nd gen's heavier curb weight, I felt would prevail.
I am looking at a 2019 V6 A-Spec/Tech...anything I should be aware of or to look for? This one has 40,000 miles and is under the recall where I believe the engine will be replaced...
thanks for the efforts man you are amazing ,keep doing this nice work
Damn that 3.7* v6 still packs a hidden punch.
Was waiting for this one! Have a 2010 TL Sh-Awd and love that car 😎
Me too my friend. Nothing comparing to 4th gen. New stuff is garbage
@@keylkq6207 wouldn't say garbage but I will take a 4G over a new one any day!
@@seddyb412 I'm sorry it's just my favorite word to say.i don't like the fact acura let some writers start that grill issue on the 4th gen. It was unfair because sales were strong. Once color matched it evened out the look. This new stuff took no chances on styling. Just plain garbage lol
LOVE IT!!! So interesting that there's such a small difference between these three generations. Please do Type-S comparisons next!!! 2004-08 gen Type-S vs the 2021 Type-S.
3G was only available in -07/08 as Type-S
Btw the new type s would completely leave the second gen type s (not second gen of the TL, but the second gen of the TL type s they made) in the dust. The type s back then is pretty much just as fast if not slower than the last 2 generations of the v6 ASpec and this generation’s 4 cyl. It’s kind of like how integras and legends today aren’t fast but they sure were fast 20 years ago
Old type S vs Honda Accord 2.0 T?!
The race between the 2 TLX's is really j
Is exactly what one would expect, the sloppy 9 speed vs the new 10 speed and then the horse power of the V6 passes the 4
Honda 10 AT over ZF 9 but similar weight and more horsepower means the J35 wins this one.
@@ljpr360 its a ZF10 even then honda is still using the ZF9 on all there Trucks and SUV's acura should have put more R&D in there DCT 8 that was on the ILX and 4 cylinder TLX thats an amazing transmission.
@@cammando117 the 10at is not ZF. It's in house. Agreed though, the Honda 8dct is SUPERB. I drove one in an ILX aspec loaner I had and it was sublime.
Sam, thoughts on 2021 Genesis G80 3.5T vs 2021 BMW 540i?
Awesome content as always! Thanks for bringing so old skool into the mix. It makes it more interesting!
No one should be surprised. C&D got 5.2, 5.7, and 5.9 for the TL 3.7 M6, TLX V6 AWD A9, and TLX 2.0T A10 AWD for 0-60 in their tests. Quarter mile times and orders were in the same order
2010 is my favorite. I remember being in high school thinking that was the best looking car. Now 10 years later, I still think it is an amazing looking car. it has aged very well.
Love at 1st sight. Waited until I could find a 6 speed. Don't like the new stuff. No styling like the 4th gen
I truly believe it was ahead of its time!
@@AcuraPerformance way way ahead. You put the new garbage next to it and matches up almost the same minus a few new toys but that's it. Other than that I wouldn't even trade up for the new one. I'm just gonna keep my maintenance up and keep it unless they do another 6 speed
No replacement for displacement. A V6 is pure clean power no roaring sounds when reved
Thank you Sam for getting this one together. It was very enjoyable to watch. 🙂
Omg I been waiting on something like this 🔥
The TL SHAWD 3.7L (the silver car) when properly launched will run 0-60 in 5.2 with the MT. These tests only demonstrate one facet of comparative linear performance from a dig. For example, can we really say the car that traps first is the fastest when the losing car is actually running faster at the finish? Yes per that selected race distance, but mostly No. Extend the race and the losing car will overtake to win. Torque & traction wins the short sprints, but top end speed goes to superior hp-to-weight-ratio, to gearing & to lowest coefficient of drag.
Great point
Fraud video. Guy in 4th gen sent me link of real run. Trashed that garbage fake video. He needs to show real run
4th gen SH-AWD 6MT have normal and sport mode ?
It's a sprint booster I installed that increases throttle response. Normal, sport and racing.
I still have my 2010 6MT Shawd, its all in the driver's heel and toe that would make a difference in the drag race showcase here. No doubt that auto has faster shifts, but a V6 will eventually will blow a 4 banger. Good video.
I still have my 2010 TL… currently doing built internals. Love this car
Is that Bolt’s car? Couldn’t miss that miniature Jamaican boxing glove over the rear view mirror 👏😁
I own the 4th Gen 3.7 the Awd is a beast
It's a monster
Got the 2010 unicorn 6 speed. New stuff is garbage
Awesome stuff, I definitely enjoy my 2019 TLX Aspec Sh-Awd. Got the muffler delete not long ago and has a nice tone to it.
The second race towards the end of the video where you said I’m getting close to him you can clearly see he was letting off
Is the driving mode selector a Canada specific feature? My 4g TL SHAWD manual does not have that
It's the Sprint Booster that I installed for better throttle response. I had to turn it off for the normal mode run. That explains why my timing was way off. It also didn't help that my aftermarket shift knob came off, that's why I missed second gear on the first run. I think the 4th gen did okay considering the shift knob malfunction. That Sprint Booster is a great investment if you're looking in to it. A lot of times guy's would rather put money on a k-tuner but it also cost way more.
@@AcuraPerformance oh gotcha! I may have skipped the part where the sprint booster was mentioned. First run was way off, but the 4th gen really sticks it to the TLX's when you get the launch and shifts down. Acura shouldve put some more money into J37 research and design.
Great comparison. you’re doing something that nobody else is doing with racing different generations of the same model. That’s a nice comparison to see and if they made the new generation faster or not. But I like the 4cyl in the new generation.
The new 4cyl is enough for the car is aiming for. It ain’t no race car. Even the type s is slower than anything in its segment. Great looking car all around
Wonderful! Can you guys do the Lexus GS next?
Cant wait till get more subs u give the viewers races that we want. Everyday cars people buy and drive them hard. Thank you.
Can you do this with the new Acura tl type s please thank you.👍
As a 2012 TL 6MT owner, I been waiting for this race so thank you ! I raced a couple of the new TLX on the street and beat them so I'm sure this one can do better.
2010 6 speed and those new ones don't do it for me. No six speed is garbage
Fraud video. 4th gen guy sent me real video link. Dusted that garbage. Fraud video. Tell him to show real run
could you setup a G35/37 vs a 350/370z?
Still love my daily driver 2012 3.5 TL ,such a smooth ride and rock solid reliable.Bought it new and it still runs like it just came out of the dealer at 150 000 kms,plan to keep it until gas wont be available for public purchase anymore.
I got the 2010 6 speed and I'm all set with mine. Don't like the auto garbage
@@keylkq6207 yeah but I heard bad thing about the 3.7.They are not rock solid like the 3,5,that being said the 6 speed sh awd 3.7 is more fun to drive for sure.
@@pope9349 your exactly right. They have oil consumption issues that they fixed for free but was hard to do because it was a quiet issue not known. I chose to deal with these cars because other companies are trash in my opinion. The 6 speed has to be driven to appreciate it. The sh awd is so different than other cars that it went unnoticed
I’ve got a 2013 3.5 and i love it
@@SManBlueLizard any 4th gen is a beast. Keep it my friend. They don't make em like that no more unless you want a dial instead of a gear shifter. Acura scared to be different now. Real conservative look on new gen. Doesn't stand out like 4th gen
If you had someone who could drive manual, The 2010 would have destroyed the 2020. Looks like he blew the shift at the end of the drag race and if he would have launched it at 4000 rpm it wouldn't have even been a race
0-60 it looks like the 2021 is the quicker car, but at the top end the 2020 TLX overtakes it.
Drive a 2014 A spec 3.7 sh-awd myself, hands down the best vehicle I've ever owned.
Never stop making these videos
Sam, can we please 1st gen TLX V6 vs 2.0T 10 spd please?
I own a 4th gen TL 2014 and I am more than happy with it, I’ll keep it until it dies or I see a new TLX gen more.
Keep it. Don't give it up. Nothing touching that gen. New stuff garbage
Incredibly interesting to me!! Love the video.
Thank you brother ... super happy we the results... I drive the 2020 sh AWD..ufff I know by fact was more faster vs 2021 😂
I pray they bring back the TL. I have a 2012 and love it. I’ve owned many cars in my day and the TL is far my favorite
It's the best car I've ever owned!
2010 version still looks better over the other two..
Wtf lmaooo
Said nobody ever
Exactly right. New gen garbage
Stop lying 🤥
@@nayefagha3271 so which car do you feel is the better car throughout
i can see that the v6 is faster after some get up and go but I want to know which one handles better in every day driving? Meaning which of the TLXs are more willing to take a 90 degree turn?
U need the gen 3 tl type S here
Why didnt you guys use the 4th gen 3.7 sh-awd tl