Sonic Origins is Pretty weird

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  • Sonic origins is a new compilation featuring remasters of our favourite classic adventures from the 90s, even though 3 out of 4 were already available on smartphones for almost a decade.
    Lets take a look at how weird Sonic Origins is.
    Knuckles in sonic CD mod:
    • Knuckles The Echidna i...
    My Instagram and Twitter:
    dshaynie?h...
    / dshaynie
    Sonic The Hedgehog is copyright Sega
    Music used:
    Sonic_The_Hedgehog_2_Medley_Sonic_Symphony
    Sonic_The_Hedgehog_Medley_Sonic_Symphony
    Sonic Origins Opening theme
    Sonic_Origins_Main_Menu_OST
    Tropical Resort - Act 1 (Remix) - Sonic Colors Ultimate
    Sonic_1_Music_Marble_Zone
    Sonic CD opening Jap (2011)
    Sonic CD boss theme USA
    Sonic CD Tidal Tempest Past
    Sonic_The_Hedgehog_3_And_Knuckles_Medley_Sonic_Symphony
    Sonic 3 Carnival night act 1
    Sonic 3 Icecap act 1
    The Complete Jetzons Hard Times
    Sonic 3 & Knuckles Ending medley
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  • @dshaynietheawesome
    @dshaynietheawesome  ปีที่แล้ว +261

    Thank you so much to everyone who has watched, liked and commented.
    I didn't think so many people would see this it really means alot
    also for the many of you asking sonic 3 a.i.r is a fanmade remaster of sonic 3 and they have made it avalible on mobile devices

    • @orphy640
      @orphy640 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Blue hedgehog

    • @EpicCorn0
      @EpicCorn0 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Summed up my thoughts on this game well, also funny skit at the start. Bonus points for being a fellow Aussie lad

    • @DabiSimpLmao
      @DabiSimpLmao ปีที่แล้ว +2

      bro forgot he can play it in mobile

    • @HarryJSmith
      @HarryJSmith ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I got the game the other day, and as I’ve never really played the games before it’s pretty good

    • @75JUNAKI
      @75JUNAKI ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @dshaynie
      So how can any new player play Sonic.T.H.3&K A.I.R without the Steam rom, due to it being delisted?
      Do I need Sonic Origin’s?

  • @Alph4Falc0
    @Alph4Falc0 ปีที่แล้ว +1037

    Origins is like taking all the mobile ports and locking the phone onto a sonic and knuckles cartridge

    • @dshaynietheawesome
      @dshaynietheawesome  ปีที่แล้ว +102

      Lol

    • @xxsegaxx
      @xxsegaxx ปีที่แล้ว +79

      No way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way

    • @Alph4Falc0
      @Alph4Falc0 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@xxsegaxx that's what I said when they released origins

    • @rnttnzr774
      @rnttnzr774 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      “Collect Blue Spheres”

    • @thewindwakinghero7423
      @thewindwakinghero7423 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Mobile and knuckles

  • @ignacio3497
    @ignacio3497 ปีที่แล้ว +902

    The intro was the perfect definition of the whole game

    • @EpicTheHedgehogOG
      @EpicTheHedgehogOG ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Ikr and then it said "common sense" 😆

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@EpicTheHedgehogOG I disagree with that sentiment.

    • @peffly
      @peffly ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The ending was better

    • @TypmitKFC
      @TypmitKFC ปีที่แล้ว +20

      They took the "common sense" out of those games
      Edit: in the Intro

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TypmitKFC No they didn’t, at least, I don’t believe so.

  • @Josh-os7vn
    @Josh-os7vn ปีที่แล้ว +223

    19:08 FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT!!! It's such a huge killer for replayability and the lack of an easy 'game opts' button like Mania also means I have to have the sound test codes memorized for NO REASON AT ALL! amazing video, so thorough

    • @Crow_Rising
      @Crow_Rising ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It is probably my single biggest gripe with the game. It's such an odd change to make, and just makes it worse. I can get some people preferring to do perfect runs, but then... Nothing would be stopping you from doing that anyway if they used the Sonic 3 save system. Is it really so much to ask for a stage select to appear when you load up cleared game data? And what's the deal with only getting one save per character?

    • @Lazzaro.Comic.Studio
      @Lazzaro.Comic.Studio ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Okay.
      Sonic 1 sound test code: up, down, left, right
      Debug code (sonic 1) release date: 19910623
      Sonic 2 sound test code: up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right
      Debug code (sonic 2) release date: 19921124
      Sonic 3 sound test code: up, up, down, down, up, up, up, up
      Debug code (sonic 3) release date; 19941018
      Super sonic code (all games, in sound test) 4, 1, 2, 6
      Hyper sonic code (sonic 3 only, in sound test) 4, 1, 2, 6 twice

  • @Raystarbazzar
    @Raystarbazzar ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I love to play as Coins the Currency. He’s my favorite character.

    • @smaragdchaos
      @smaragdchaos ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Original character, do not steal

    • @right_hand_power7960
      @right_hand_power7960 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And he gets super-pregnant by Trails the Hedgefund.

    • @right_hand_power7960
      @right_hand_power7960 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @CoolGamer2773 Just kidding. I'm actually not one of those subset of Sonic fans.

    • @ljproductions4026
      @ljproductions4026 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ⁠​⁠@@right_hand_power7960you did not have to say that

    • @SonicTheFastBlueBoi
      @SonicTheFastBlueBoi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Coins is also the richest character

  • @guest9405
    @guest9405 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    “RINGS IS WHAT SONIC IS KNOWN FOR.”
    Speed: “well guess I’m useless.”

    • @edwinvillatoro1589
      @edwinvillatoro1589 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fr

    • @cedialive2759
      @cedialive2759 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Weeeeeeeell, if you wanna get technical, I'd say he's known for three things.
      Gold Rings, One Button, and most telling of all, Speed.
      There's also Attitude, but no one really seems to care about that since Sonic was apparently "cute and innocent" back in the Classic games.

    • @josteen74
      @josteen74 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't get it

    • @satanos901
      @satanos901 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cedialive2759 For some reason, I thought Sonic's sprite in Sonic 3 was the cutest.

    • @satanos901
      @satanos901 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cedialive2759 And even then, Modern Sonic is also adorable.

  • @Zaphod-ef9yz
    @Zaphod-ef9yz ปีที่แล้ว +85

    I like the way that "Coins" is an anogram of "Sonic" - was that quicker than removing the icon🤣

  • @engineerfromror2
    @engineerfromror2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    16:17 The Carnival night music is timed with Sonic hitting the ice cap snowboard wall and reaching the ground which is kinda funny

    • @dr.thunder1567
      @dr.thunder1567 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ayyye haha that is funny

    • @hamzamohamed6774
      @hamzamohamed6774 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're an absolute criminal how did you notice that

  • @Starluxe0
    @Starluxe0 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    They've actually updated Origins, so all the Knuckles Chaotix has been labeled correctly

    • @kiwisoup
      @kiwisoup ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They also fixed the tails off the screen issue... They fixed these issues before this video came out yet he doesn't mention it 🤔

    • @TheFloodFourm
      @TheFloodFourm ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But I still can’t admire Sonic CD in widescreen in Original Mode :/

  • @TheSuperuser49
    @TheSuperuser49 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    You can skip 90% of Sonic & Knuckles by jumping into the ring at the start of Mushroom Hill, pausing the game when the screen whites out and selecting Restart. Game gets confused and throws you to Hidden Palace

    • @dshaynietheawesome
      @dshaynietheawesome  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      wouldn't that be 50%?

    • @TheSuperuser49
      @TheSuperuser49 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dshaynietheawesome I was just over exaggerating since that skip feels like it’s most of the S&K portion skipped

    • @hamzamohamed6774
      @hamzamohamed6774 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dshaynietheawesome well it would be %90 if you played the knuckles campaign considering he doesn't visit the death egg and sky sanctuary is literally just a final boss not a proper zone

  • @drbuni
    @drbuni ปีที่แล้ว +333

    Good video. I like how you didn't defend SEGA for their bizarre and somewhat predatory decisions, and gave them credit for the things they did right. Often with videos about Sonic, people tend to be too extreme. It is either the "worse game ever" or "fans need to stop complaining".
    As for me, I will be waiting for at least a 50% discount on Steam. The current price, especially where I live, is way too expensive for a collection of games I played dozens of times already. I was hoping the pricing would be more reasonable like with the Mega Man, Mega Man X and Mega Man Zero Collections, but SEGA (and Bandai Namco with the Klonoa Collection) decided to go the opposite way with their price tags.

    • @dshaynietheawesome
      @dshaynietheawesome  ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I will always give positive feedback where necessary but i am not afraid to call out BS especially when it seems to follow no logical sense and that pretty much sums up origins theres some good but theres also some bad

    • @ItsUrBoi-stk428
      @ItsUrBoi-stk428 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Im not sure if you can, but from what I know… if you play story mode, since there isn’t menus you can’t change Sonic CD to have the JP soundtrack

    • @monikalovescola2101
      @monikalovescola2101 ปีที่แล้ว

      same here

    • @DemonDethchase
      @DemonDethchase ปีที่แล้ว

      With you saying about being a shill, who kisses Sega's ass, I recall seeing Badnik Mechanic doing just that with his review. Because when it came to lives, or the lack of options to toggle them on and off in both modes, he simply laughed "haha, shut up, scum!" And then proceed to brush off any would be complaints as he remarks about how it makes the games more accessible to others and doesn't impact your experience in anyway, so there is that. Though surely having more options instead of less would make the game more accessible still, and also wouldn't impact his experience in anyway. Just saying.

    • @thejonbrownshow8470
      @thejonbrownshow8470 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well there's a steam sale the past weekend, which is why I own the steam version 😂

  • @NovikInfinite
    @NovikInfinite ปีที่แล้ว +61

    So there was an update that fixed the following:
    -Tails doesn’t get stuck in Sonic 2 anymore
    -New cheats (for Sonic 3&K Sound Test
    -Other stuff I can’t remember

    • @dshaynietheawesome
      @dshaynietheawesome  ปีที่แล้ว +34

      They didn’t fix tails they just made it so you can’t here him jumping infinity, they also fixed the blue spheres music not speeding up and enabled the sonic 3 codes that were already in the game but were disabled

    • @gengargamer5657
      @gengargamer5657 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@dshaynietheawesome For Tails thing, eh that's still good in its own right

  • @HallowedGreaves
    @HallowedGreaves ปีที่แล้ว +369

    I still feel the Micheal Jackson issue is just a little bullshit. He was employed by Sega to make the tracks, all this could've been avoided by a better written contract.
    Also I would've loved to see something worthwhile for collecting the coins like cosmetics for the characters. Perhaps the ability to use different Sonic sprites like S3&K Sonic in CD or other games.

    • @ItsUrBoi-stk428
      @ItsUrBoi-stk428 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That is exactly what I wanted too! (The second paragraph)

    • @oldchannel2892
      @oldchannel2892 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      To be fair, lots of Sega's history could've been avoided with a better written contract. That's why Sonic Spinball was initially recalled, why Sonic X-Treme had so many issues in development, and why the Ken Penders Chronicles even happened to begin with.

    • @RevyaAeinsett
      @RevyaAeinsett ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@oldchannel2892 A lot of the Ken Penders debacle was on Archie Comics being the most incompetent company ever, though Sega certainly didn't help the situation doing shit like enforcing mandates but providing nothing to enable the artists to follow them.

    • @Leonard_Wolf_2056
      @Leonard_Wolf_2056 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      A lot of issues at SEGA could have been avoided from the get go had SEGA employeed management members who don't have room temperature IQ, this time it's celcius and the location is Antarctica.

    • @The_Real_DCT
      @The_Real_DCT ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Well there's a reason why Sega isn't making consoles anymore. Because Sega wasn't ran by the smartest people

  • @rsjjsjsb
    @rsjjsjsb ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I really liked sonic's classic voice, I can understand not being able to get the original voice actor - but nothings stopping them from re-casting like they have many times with sonic. I think this one really fit though, and they had absolutely no right stripping sonic away from his voice in cd (don't think they added it in classic mode either, probably due to sega.)

    • @colbyfrewin9714
      @colbyfrewin9714 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think SEGA has the right to do anything they want with Sonic, considering they own the rights to him and are the company that developed and published the game. I, personally, did not like the voice and am glad they removed it. I can understand the disappointment, though.

    • @mazkeraid4039
      @mazkeraid4039 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@colbyfrewin9714 That and Anniversary Mode is the main culprit for its reason... ignoring the fact that they kept the voice clips intact in 2011 ports.

  • @McYum.
    @McYum. ปีที่แล้ว +138

    I think Amy had a big role in the final cutscene because she was going to be playable, but we all know Sega’s greedy and rushed the games so they could profit. Heck, she might have even had her own story mode in CD like Knuckles had in 3&K!

    • @mazkeraid4039
      @mazkeraid4039 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is called Sonic Origins for a reason, and Piko Piko shouldn't be made for Amy until Sonic the Fighters.

    • @trumpeterjen
      @trumpeterjen ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mazkeraid4039 But if they only wanted to rehash what we already have, they wouldn't have made Tails and Knuckles playable in Sonic 1. That doesn't make sense, does it?
      Times have changed. Amy's role in the group is bigger than it used to be, not just in terms of modern!Amy, but in classic as well. She's prominent in Origins' cutscenes. She has an equal share in the classic-themed Sonic Mega Drive comics alongside the other three. Amy's more popular than ever, and the Sonic franchise isn't an old boys' club anymore. It's her turn.

    • @mazkeraid4039
      @mazkeraid4039 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@trumpeterjen You must’ve forgotten that if it were not for Sonic the Fighters, she wouldn’t be made for today.
      Plus, Stealth is on his own when developing Sonic Origins with Retro Engine to boot, so I doubt he’ll just make sprites for Amy from the ground up.
      And another thing, I don’t care how popular she got now, it doesn’t change the fact that she was rather insignificant at points.

    • @trumpeterjen
      @trumpeterjen ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mazkeraid4039 No, I haven't forgotten. Amy isn't her former self in the franchise right now. She's come a long way. She's not insignificant *now.* Even in the Origins cutscenes, she's swinging her hammer alongside the others. It doesn't matter that Sonic the Fighters isn't part of the collection. She's part of the core group, and the hammer comes with her.
      Modders have been putting Amy into the classic games and Mania for years now, even with her classic design. It's completely doable. Sega hired people like that for Mania. They could easily do so here.
      This isn't about the past, it's about updating the old. That's why there's drop-dashing and spin-dashing. That's why Tails and Knuckles are in Sonic 1 now. They weren't originally, but times have changed. It's now jarring that Amy's not there because her role in the franchise isn't the same. A LOT of people would pick up Origins if they added playable Amy, myself included. It's the right move.

    • @mazkeraid4039
      @mazkeraid4039 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@trumpeterjen Modding Amy in the games doesn't count, and regardless what you may think, Sonic Origins Plus may not be a reality anytime soon.
      There should be more patches available and did you think I forgot that Tails wasn't even in Sonic CD originally?
      Also, how is Amy going to play, emulating the Advance movepools? If Amy did not appear in Mania Plus, what makes you think she'll get a second chance here?

  • @littenfire3563
    @littenfire3563 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    8:18 yes, yes it does. Some games are already challenging without the lives system, but it feels wrong getting rid of lives for games that were literally built with that in mind to motivate you to play better

    • @thegrouchization
      @thegrouchization ปีที่แล้ว +22

      For me at least, lives don't motivate me to play better, they nullify my motivation to play at all.
      I don't enjoy being forced to repeat tasks that I already demonstrated the ability to complete just because a later part of a game is giving me trouble, so I'm more likely to switch to a game that doesn't rely on lives to artificially extend itself instead.

    • @botanicalmenace9995
      @botanicalmenace9995 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I think the option of no lives system is good for those who want it, but not being able to independently toggle things like lives, widescreen, drop dash, and cutscenes is a real fun killer. You either get to play with all the new stuff, or none of it. No in between. What if someone wants to play in widescreen, but without coins or dropdash? Or with lives and dropdash, but in widescreen, etc

    • @thegrouchization
      @thegrouchization ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@botanicalmenace9995 Seconded. The more options a player has to tweak their experience, the better.

  • @helixsol7171
    @helixsol7171 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Apparently Sonic's plane comes from his father... Who we never get to see, ever...

    • @satanos901
      @satanos901 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, Sonic DOES have a father in the Archie comics, who is said to be the king of a castle in which his whole family lives in there.

  • @KBvidss
    @KBvidss ปีที่แล้ว +41

    High quality, underrated youtuber.

    • @Mr_Gamer-Random
      @Mr_Gamer-Random ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dshaynie is waaaaaaaay to underrated

  • @blaquelinktriforce4234
    @blaquelinktriforce4234 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    The ending of Sonic CD and the removal of the voices of sonic isn’t the developers fault. It’s Sega’s fault. Sega purposefully sabatoged it.

    • @codyryan9789
      @codyryan9789 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      See people give Sega credit for being supportive of modding when in reality they're just a more douchey Nintendo.

    • @BlueBoi1992
      @BlueBoi1992 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      at least they dont sue you for even saying their fricking name...

  • @marciver5028
    @marciver5028 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It took me 11 years to realize that "Sonic" is an anagramm of "Coins". I'm not sure how I feel about this.

  • @videogameguy101
    @videogameguy101 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Man, you’ve really grown as a channel.
    I remember back in the day when you asked me to do a green screen fight scene for you in Super Mario 64 LMFAOO.
    Good job, kiddo. I’m really proud of you 💯

  • @Tezdude9
    @Tezdude9 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The complaint of having to get all the emeralds on a single run in Origins is kinda moot when you consider the fact that Origins lets you retry the special stages upon failing. So unless you're an ultra purist, you don't need to go back to the stages to attempt the emerald again. Sure, you need Coins, but it's not like it's hard to rack up a decent amount of those.

  • @ukflag7129
    @ukflag7129 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    13:04
    Sonic: im outta here!
    Song: yayyyy

  • @brinst7425
    @brinst7425 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    When they refered to new playable characters, i expected Mighty and Ray tbh

  • @AWMonopolyMan
    @AWMonopolyMan ปีที่แล้ว +14

    14:58 As for Stealth, he said was SEGA made major modifications to his work, some due to how Origins was, some not

  • @inDN
    @inDN ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Totally loved this video. The humour, the special effects, and of course the in-depth look into Origins and its options. Top notch!

  • @Herox_
    @Herox_ ปีที่แล้ว +11

    21:25 Now I know why Knuckles wasn't added to the game.

  • @DreadheadMf
    @DreadheadMf ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The canonical reason for Tails not being in CD was because he went to a plane convention, I think that has alot more charm to it than Sonic just not meeting him yet.

  • @chrissyweidler2273
    @chrissyweidler2273 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    ok the first scene where you tape sonic 1,2,CD & 3 together is downright funny

  • @lowzinhoobbycreatorgames6037
    @lowzinhoobbycreatorgames6037 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    12:09
    Doc/original Devs: That's How time traveling Works
    Marty/Kids You telling me you made a horrible remaster, OnTop of A Masterpiece?!?!

  • @brucesmith265
    @brucesmith265 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I saw someone say "Tails is playable in SCU let's gooooo" Poor them.

  • @charleston1848
    @charleston1848 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    that avgn reference was perfect 😂😂

  • @dyll_pyckle
    @dyll_pyckle ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really like your passion for the Sonic series. The green screen segments were great. I hope your channel continues to grow!!

  • @another-person-on-youtube
    @another-person-on-youtube ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I LOVED that finale

  • @larhyperhair
    @larhyperhair ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was waiting for the jump at the end and it was more perfect than I could have possibly imagined

  • @izukumidoriyadeku9846
    @izukumidoriyadeku9846 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love this video, well organized and was really nice to watch. Keep up the great work!

  • @AWMonopolyMan
    @AWMonopolyMan ปีที่แล้ว +8

    16:24 Alright time for the biggest one, one of the other collaborators (Bobby Brooks), seems to have been the lone guy that caused the music for the 3 zones (also Competition Menu and S3 Ending, the latter of which is used in the Best Ending only) to be replaced with the new tracks

  • @JohnStanworth
    @JohnStanworth ปีที่แล้ว +9

    They should've remade these games in the animation style of the menus IMO. We already have Megadrive Sonic games on the Nintendo online.

  • @maverickREAL
    @maverickREAL ปีที่แล้ว +23

    And yet, people bought it in droves.
    Either we're doing something wrong or Sega is doing something horribly, horribly right

  • @stevenshockley4237
    @stevenshockley4237 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thankfully as of the day this uploaded, the Tails bug is fixed and the blue sphere music speeds up properly.

  • @juliangonzalez5666
    @juliangonzalez5666 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I’m surprised you didn’t go over the weird physics, especially in 3&K. There’s some stuff that isn’t even accessible that was before. Specifically that one big ring in Hydrocity

    • @dshaynietheawesome
      @dshaynietheawesome  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I haven’t experienced or noticed this

    • @darthdemented
      @darthdemented ปีที่แล้ว

      I was never able to get that ring in the real version.

  • @Oatis24
    @Oatis24 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    17:00 me too me too bro 😢

  • @tidalwaveelias
    @tidalwaveelias ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I find it hilarious that Sega went through all of the effort to replace the MJ songs, but forgot to take Brad Buxer out of the credits.

  • @Zeroedout491
    @Zeroedout491 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not gonna like you are one of the best channels to watch when you are just looking to learn something and you’re funny while you’re doing

  • @Ninchat18
    @Ninchat18 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    OK I wasn't expecting an AVGN reference, it make me laugh ngl.

  • @EmmaxoOCE
    @EmmaxoOCE ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Great vid that outlines the good and the bad of this game. As a fellow Aussie I can’t justify the price for this game considering the many little issues. I’ll consider it for maybe 20-30 dollars.

  • @IcyMercy679
    @IcyMercy679 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    7:21 got me rolling on the floor

  • @juanignaciotello6045
    @juanignaciotello6045 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    9:34 Sonic CD was not intended as a sequel, its chronological position was never clear until the release of Sonic 4. With the release of Sonic 4, Sonic CD was placed between 3&K and Sonic 4 (Although now they changed it and it is between Sonic 1 and 2).

    • @dshaynietheawesome
      @dshaynietheawesome  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You really want to use sonic 4 to make your point?

    • @juanignaciotello6045
      @juanignaciotello6045 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dshaynietheawesome What's wrong with it? Sonic 4 is completely canonical and, although it has now changed, at the time it was explained that it is a continuation of Sonic CD

    • @dshaynietheawesome
      @dshaynietheawesome  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juanignaciotello6045 sonic 4 is not canonical anymore and i think you knew that also don't you think the existence of sonic cd being placed between sonic 1 and 2 may mean oh i dunno thats what is officially canon now
      but keep to your preferred headcanon i won't argue

    • @juanignaciotello6045
      @juanignaciotello6045 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dshaynietheawesome Where did you get that Sonic 4 is not canon? I did not hear that

    • @KidPrarchord95
      @KidPrarchord95 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dshaynietheawesome I think you're being unreasonable about the topic. While, yes, it does make the most sense that Sonic CD takes place between 1 and 2, that doesn't discount that there have always been valid reasons to believe otherwise. It's a bit strange to outright pretend that it makes no sense for CD to have taken place after 3&K when there's plenty of reasonable evidence that could have previously made a case for it.

  • @Jeo_lol
    @Jeo_lol 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I seriously got a Sonic Origins Ad 🗿

  • @AlfieJones-yr3lq
    @AlfieJones-yr3lq 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    24:03 Me If Big Man Loses The Splatfest

  • @KanaKonpaku
    @KanaKonpaku ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After watching multiple videos on your channel, I really like how well edited your videos are and the sense of humor in them. I really applaud you on that, and hope your channel continues to grow! I've subscribed to see what future content this channel will bring.
    As for the content of this video itself, I remember people all jumping for joy when this game was announced because Sonic 3 was coming back and swearing that Carnival Night, Ice Cap, and Launch Base music would come back. Man what a punch to the gut, but I guess I get why. I personally wonder why they didn't work it out so that you had the option to get the original music if you bought the DLC (at the time that whacky flow chart came out saying the thing had "additional music", that's what I thought they meant). I was very disappointed when the game came out, and my preorder of the deluxe edition had a bunch of mislabled music instead of the original Sonic 3 tracks. Though personally I like the beta version of Launch Base more than the Jackson version (Ice Cap and Carnival Night from the beta are meh at best, especially Ice Cap). It's also amazing how lazily ported the Sonic 1, 2, and CD games are, I've resorted to playing ports of the mobile versions that exist from reverse engineering projects (As I actually own all the Android versions anyways). What a time to live in.

  • @NindoXYT
    @NindoXYT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    lmfao you sold me on that beginning, absolutely hilarious

  • @mr.incognitoyt2235
    @mr.incognitoyt2235 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm actually so pissed that they had the nerve to de-list it off of Steam. All I can really do now is play them on an emulator (if you want, use ClassicBoy Pro) since my high school has restricted computer games.

  • @robertkovarna8294
    @robertkovarna8294 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That ending bit of the video was pretty good. I like how ya had yourself green screened into what looks like Sonic 2s ending with the music. Still a great ending to a great game.

  • @MaxitoDe485
    @MaxitoDe485 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    23:52 This is me realizing that sonic 3 a.i.r. exists

  • @FattyFatMatt
    @FattyFatMatt ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Me in 2004:
    SEGA are always known for making great games
    Me now:
    I…I…I lost hope now

    • @waterlessant5355
      @waterlessant5355 ปีที่แล้ว

      at least sega allows fangames of their ip unlike Nintendo, who are overprotective of their beloved mario

    • @FattyFatMatt
      @FattyFatMatt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@waterlessant5355 true

    • @FattyFatMatt
      @FattyFatMatt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@waterlessant5355 and is also why I like the sonic series more than mario
      I still like the fat plumber but since everyone can make sonic fan games where the only rule is not to profit the project (omens is an example of a bad fan game and breaking the rules)

  • @DanialDEcool
    @DanialDEcool ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If head cannon actually was able to finish sonic 3 & Knuckles we could’ve got an option between animated remaster of the sonic 3 and knuckles cutscenes and the originals.
    Edit : idk actually care if they did that or not cause the originals are still master pieces

  • @Endev_Prime
    @Endev_Prime ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For changing Ice Cap music they WON'T be forgiven. Never.

  • @Spidey-Playz37
    @Spidey-Playz37 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That “NOO-” at the end made me laugh I was just expecting the video to end

  • @game_throweryt8452
    @game_throweryt8452 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Coins the hedgehog sounds like a good name for a sonic oc

  • @SuperSky712
    @SuperSky712 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was the best outro I've ever seen.

  • @RylieCoombe
    @RylieCoombe ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The ending made me laugh

  • @Ahmad-pd7fq
    @Ahmad-pd7fq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    24:06 also, the retro engine got decompiled recently with means you could have sonic mania on your phone with 1 2 CD and 3 A.I.R

    • @Romie1729
      @Romie1729 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wait how

    • @Romie1729
      @Romie1729 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I need to know how

  • @brutalnobody5240
    @brutalnobody5240 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    20:20 avgn moment and I'm happy for it

  • @mandoloriansoju3841
    @mandoloriansoju3841 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would of been a day one buy if they made physicals. Something tells me SEGA didn’t so they can pull the games off the online market at some point to make another collection in the future

  • @8-bitanimates120
    @8-bitanimates120 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The intro felt like an episode of Gumball

  • @jacksonscully5030
    @jacksonscully5030 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is an amazingly detailed review, Kudos!

  • @SethAshcraft
    @SethAshcraft ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the intro, it is so accurate and funny at the same time.

  • @fishnewt1331
    @fishnewt1331 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think I would consider getting the game if Amy was actually playable.
    (Was gonna say Amy is underrated, but is she really with fans at this point? I know she used to be called annoying back then, but I see a lot more appreciation for her character these days. Not just the Boom version either. I mean her original character back in the adventure games up to unleashed)

    • @mazkeraid4039
      @mazkeraid4039 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you mean if, and I'll say this as the guy who grew up with Sonic, Amy was just there in later games (with the exception of Unleashed).

    • @fishnewt1331
      @fishnewt1331 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mazkeraid4039: Thanks. The comment is now edited.
      No time like the present for change, which goes for more than just my comment. Amy usually has pretty unique gameplay when she is playable, so I am very hopeful for her inclusion beyond cameos.

    • @mazkeraid4039
      @mazkeraid4039 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fishnewt1331 I would have as well, but…

  • @domymbd
    @domymbd ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Coins system is a must when you want to do those goddam awful Sonic CD Special Stages…

    • @dshaynietheawesome
      @dshaynietheawesome  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I never really had a problem with them I only ever failed them about twice during my origins playthrough but truthfully I’ve been playing this version of cd since 2014

  • @pikablu_25
    @pikablu_25 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Omgg!! "What where they thinking?!?!"
    I love that the reference went so far as to dress up as the nerd

  • @T-Dawg-lp2sh
    @T-Dawg-lp2sh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow this is a really well pit together vid

  • @Mikau888
    @Mikau888 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    to the people in the comments trying to defend Origins' downsides, shortcomings and detrimental bugs, i present to you a concept:
    a game that is what it says it is in advertising and description, works as intended, and doesn't inconvenience the player through developer error, poor decision-making or game/content pricing. it's a bit of a fantastical concept, i know, but just imagine it for a second.

    • @dshaynietheawesome
      @dshaynietheawesome  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sounds like a myth to me

    • @Mikau888
      @Mikau888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dshaynietheawesome perhaps
      also, sorry to everyone else who reads my comment above, it is pretty snarky 😬
      also, cool video on the debug and cheat code stuff, dshaynie. i appreciate having that now, can't believe i didn't know about some of the stuff in it

  • @mlgpapas1319
    @mlgpapas1319 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    bruh someone made a mod that adds Mighty as a new playable character in Sonic 3 A.I.R. also the part at the end

  • @nefariou5
    @nefariou5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is a good review. it hits on many good points.
    as someone that doesnt have as much time to game as I used to i appreciate the unlimited lives change. but agree it should be optional.

  • @Fnaffan777
    @Fnaffan777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Perfect title, I couldn’t off said it any better myself to be honest. Good video!

  • @eliel0503
    @eliel0503 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    About the Sonic CD ending cutscenes, the speed in Origins its the real speed that its supposed to play,
    It was the 1996 PC port which slowed the ending down to fit most of the song in it

    • @dshaynietheawesome
      @dshaynietheawesome  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was only coming back to edit where I figured that out and they were slowed to fit the credits on both pc and sega cd but I couldn’t help but feel in some places it was too fast which is why i made my own edit adjusting the speed and sound in places

  • @autosaver
    @autosaver ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awkward that this video was released a day after some of the bugs were already fixed in a patch lol

  • @IceisNice_FollowingChrist
    @IceisNice_FollowingChrist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video I agree with every single thing you mentioned!

  • @ToffeeToof
    @ToffeeToof ปีที่แล้ว

    The intro is hilarious and it's a great video👍

  • @datdude12399
    @datdude12399 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    0:14 bro needed to sacrifice 3 phones for that joke 💀

  • @grey9155
    @grey9155 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    17:38 tails u good

  • @lazierdabbthe1st
    @lazierdabbthe1st ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The city background is a reference to the city sonic and his friends were in on one of the sonic mania covers

  • @ZCKSCB
    @ZCKSCB 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tysm for showing how you can switch the sonic CD music. You’re a game saver.

  • @thomasverslycken2563
    @thomasverslycken2563 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In classic mode the only special stage i failed was the 7th so just to unlock it in both the & origins time i have to play through about half of the game (asuming i don't fail any special stages) again just to unlock this 1 special stage in both time attacks

  • @anobody8430
    @anobody8430 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This game is perfect for me,sonic 3 prototype music is great just everything is.

  • @DefinitelyReagan
    @DefinitelyReagan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    12:10 that Vegeta impression though.

  • @Itz_Jello
    @Itz_Jello ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The skit is actually the best

  • @mohammedabd3523
    @mohammedabd3523 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “Screw you Labyrinth Zone”
    If you ever play Sonic 2, wait until you get to Metropolis Zone

  • @theevildalek5425
    @theevildalek5425 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m gonna be that annoying guy. I don’t like that they put Sonic CD between Sonic 1 & 2. I don’t and I’ll fight that decision for all eternity 😤
    Anyway ignoring my pointless subjective view, I was so hyped for this collection but now it’s out, I’m just super super disappointed. This has been something we have been wanting for so long and for it to be given to us so sloppily & rushed is so frustrating. The amount of dreams & ideas fans have had for a collection like this have been immense and for it to just be this is disappointing. The animations are fantastic & some of the missions are fun but everything else just feels empty to me.
    To put into perspective, this is what I and I’m sure many other fans were wishing for Origins ⬇️
    Sonic Origins - Remastered (The Dream Classic Collection):
    List of Games
    Main Games:
    . Sonic The Hedgehog
    . Sonic The Hedgehog 2
    . Sonic CD
    . Sonic The Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles
    Side Games:
    . Sega Sonic The Hedgehog
    . Sonic The Hedgehog Spinball
    . Dr. Robotnik’s Mean Bean Machine
    . Knuckles’ Chaotix
    . Sonic 3D Blast (Genesis, Saturn & PC Version)
    . Sonic R
    . Sonic The Fighters
    Unlock-able Games:
    . Sonic The Hedgehog (Game Gear)
    . Sonic The Hedgehog 2 (Game Gear)
    . Sonic Chaos
    . Sega Sonic Cosmo Fighter Galaxy Patrol
    . Sega Sonic Popcorn Shop
    . Sonic Drift
    . Sonic Triple Trouble
    . Tails’ Skypatrol
    . Tails Adventure
    . Sonic Labyrinth
    . Sonic Drift 2
    . Sonic Blast
    . Sonic Jam (3D World)
    Special Features:
    . All Games In 16:9
    . Multiple Screen Filter Choices (Sharp, Soft, Sharp CRT Lines, Soft CRT Lines)
    . Optional Easy Mode (Replacing Lives System For Coins to Retry Special Stages & unlock content) or Original Hard Mode (with Lives & no Special Stage Retry) - Toggles Available to mix the options will be available after beating hard mode.
    . Change In Character Deigns (Sonic 1 & CD Design, Sonic 2 Design & Sonic 3 Design - As well as unlock-able designs such as American Sonic or Spinball Sonic)
    . Optional Spindash for Sonic 1
    . Optional Super Peel-Out for Sonic 1, 2 & 3 And Knuckles
    . Optional Insta-Shield for Sonic 1, 2 & CD
    . Optional Drop Dash for all games
    . Tails & Knuckles available in Sonic 1 & CD
    . New Unlock-able playable characters such as: Amy, Mighty, Ray
    . Optional Music Changes for Sonic 3 & Knuckles (Carnival Night, Ice Cap, Launch Base, Super Sonic, Mini-Boss, Knuckles Theme & End Credits) [This would be for a universe where the copyright issues were fixed. What a universe to be in]
    . Optional Music Changes For Sonic 3D Blast (Genesis or Saturn)
    . Optional Music change for Sonic CD (JP or US)
    . Sonic CD US Soundtrack having new Past Themes for each Zone so that soundtrack is same
    . Optional Shields For All Games
    . Tails Doll Rival Boss for Sonic CD if playing Tails
    . Metal Knuckles Rival Boss for Sonic CD if playing Knuckles
    . Story Mode
    . New Animations
    . Blue Sphere Mode

    • @endrgamer9348
      @endrgamer9348 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sure Sega would have done this if it's would not take up so much space

    • @dshaynietheawesome
      @dshaynietheawesome  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is a shame.

  • @Jimmietruck
    @Jimmietruck 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The back to the future reference got me

  • @pvzmariosonica8fan
    @pvzmariosonica8fan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:27 "Also, coin. Coins and Sonic. *_Mario_** coin sound plays twice while some are shown on screen* _COINS!!!"_

    • @TheSonicKidMC
      @TheSonicKidMC 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      they should have put red rings instead of coins lol

  • @martin_acj98
    @martin_acj98 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What sega sees : Sonic 1 , sonic cd , sonic 2 , sonic 3 & knuckles , mission modes
    What we see : 0:57

  • @Kaseyn2ube
    @Kaseyn2ube 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    16:40 banger

  • @basicallysnake
    @basicallysnake 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fact - Only the S3 Super Sonic theme was redone by Jun.
    The music for S3 in origins was taken from an even earlier prototype, for some reason.

  • @evankrauss4
    @evankrauss4 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    13:26
    I'm happy you seem to be the only one who noticed. When I saw the sped up ending I was upset. Are you really gonna speed it up just because the opening was fast?
    The only reason the opening was like that was to have the movie match the same length as the song. I'm also really pissed they used the beta ver of you can do anything just like sonic jam did. THANK GOD WE HAD MODS TO FIX THOSE ISSUES. at least I'm thankful for the cutscene upscaling.

  • @Crow_Rising
    @Crow_Rising ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The whole coins debacle is probably my second biggest nitpick, right behind the screwed up save system. Score, Rings, and Lives all tied together in the originals in a way that gave you a reason to grow your skill that was tangible on screen. Lives existed as both a reward and punishment, punishing you for playing too poorly with a game over while rewarding you for playing well by incrementally inching you away from that happening into an ever growing safety net. Holding 100 rings at the same time rewarded a 1-up, and earning enough score did the same, with continues only further adding to your ability to grow your safety net. Holding onto large amounts of rings would also reward you with score at the end of each stage, potentially giving you even more lives.
    I hear the argument around all over the place of "Well if you never game over anyway, why do you even care about it being removed?" to which I reiterate the important distinction: Growing your skill to the point you can build up your safety net is different from there not being any danger to begin with. Safety nets are earned. Not having danger by default just makes all of the tied together game mechanics built around that danger pointless. Without lives, why should you bother holding onto more than 1 ring with fewer than 7 chaos emeralds? Why should you care about score at all in general?
    For maximum accessibility, I would have handled it like this; Give the player three different options for lives in the settings menu and pause menu:
    Style 1 - Classic (Player has classic lives, can spend coins in special stages if they want to)
    Style 2 - Safe (Player has Infinite lives, can spend coins in special stages if they want to)
    Style 3 - Modern (Coins act as lives, and can also be spent in special stages)
    Apply this to Classic Mode as well and have both modes use the same save data, and you've got all the accessibility you could ever want or need. Why did we not get this?

    • @mazkeraid4039
      @mazkeraid4039 ปีที่แล้ว

      See?!

    • @Crow_Rising
      @Crow_Rising ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mazkeraid4039 See what?

    • @mazkeraid4039
      @mazkeraid4039 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Crow_Rising The options that Stealth and SEGA should've done.

    • @Crow_Rising
      @Crow_Rising ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mazkeraid4039 Considering what actually released was not the same thing as what STEALTH and Headcannon turned in, it's possible they did implement them as options and SEGA removed them after the fact.

    • @mazkeraid4039
      @mazkeraid4039 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Crow_Rising No idea what feature he and his team had though, what he described on Twitter is justified but vague.

  • @benji-menji
    @benji-menji ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I can see some of the problems like coins replacing the lives count being weird to hyper veterans. However because it takes the lives counter's place on the screen, the screen feels complete and has close to everything. It may be useless while playing, but having something like lives that isn't lives take the place makes it feel better instead of removing it altogether in m opinion. It's so minor though that I think that you became a part of the compromised minority. Sorry that the game broke your nostalgia.

    • @dshaynietheawesome
      @dshaynietheawesome  ปีที่แล้ว +26

      It’s not so much my nostalgia as i can go without lives or a lives icon but i feel plastering coins on the screen feels so extra and so unnecessary and clashes with the visual style of the game so it stands out in a very annoying way or at least thats how i feel

    • @benji-menji
      @benji-menji ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@dshaynietheawesome I think reason it's changed like that is because it's the easiest way to convey where you can get coins in the level. Basically it's to show that coins replace lives in a mechanical sense. I think it's smart, but by your reaction it seemed you were really influenced by the lives count previously so the change didn't sit well. If the game had better gameplay settings, I think it would have been fine but they didn't do that. Probably because it is easier to market the game if they are modes rather than settings.

    • @Zaphod-ef9yz
      @Zaphod-ef9yz ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I am not really sure why anyone cares about the lives system. On one hand, infinite chances is more accessible to new comers but for veterans.. come on, when was the last time we lost any lives on these games? Also, in the last few games to use lives they are essentially pointless as post game over screen we are still back where we were due to save systems.
      It's the way that the classic / original mode is just the anniversary mode cropped that makes no sense to me. That isn't what it says on the tin at all..

    • @benji-menji
      @benji-menji ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Zaphod-ef9yz You're not wrong. I haven't played classic mode but if they bring you back to your last checkpoint, then it's just an annoyance in that you have to go through the screen just to be back when that wasn't necessary. It it brings you to the start of act 1 of the current zone then I think that's fine.

    • @SoniStrike
      @SoniStrike ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Did any of you know that u can spell sonic from
      Coins
      Sonic
      So technically it still says sonic

  • @kbtvstudios9528
    @kbtvstudios9528 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Origins Plus was announced, Amy is Playable, and that’s about it besides a bunch of smaller games being included, (Sonic Triple Trouble, Mean Bean Machine, Tail’s Adventure, etc). Sadly no Chaotix, neither the game nor as playable characters.

  • @christophersidebothom7919
    @christophersidebothom7919 ปีที่แล้ว

    First time viewer, the intro made me a subscriber! : )