thank you for another great video. got my 1290 SAS at the end of april. mine is grey as well. put on comfort seats mainly because the originals are not heated. the wiring is there though. already put on 6,500 km. done two trips. the first one to Çeşme/İzmir with my better half. the second one to Çanakkale alone. BMW GS might be a bit more comfy, but the performance is incomparable. this one simply explodes when you open the throttle. as you aptly stated "Dr. Jekyll & Mr Hide character" of the bike is awesome. I owned a Honda CBR 1100 Superblackbird and a Kawasaki ZX-10 R in the past. that background was the reason I chose this over a BMW GS and it did not dissapoint. when you want it, the bike is a comfy two up adventure tourer. when you wanna hit some curves for some spirited riding, it feels like a tall superbike. second and third gear power wheelies and all the manic stuff. can't wait to take it to a track day at Istanbul Park :)
Merhaba:) I am planning to buy one tomorrow as well. I have couple of questions if you do not mind? What about the service. Are you still happy with the bike? Did you change the tire? Do you have these head shaking (kata salami sıkıntısı) at 210km ? Thanks for the great comment btw :)
i test rode a 1290R & a 1290 Super Duke diff times when my other ktm was in the shop , crazy good bikes both of them with torque thats just intoxicating !! but im more off road focused so went smaller a bit
I appreciate his honesty considering he's a BMW Rider. Let's face it most of us don't go out on Long hauls or take those thousand Mile trips. We stay around home. The fun factor is in the KTM. I honestly believe that the LC 8 engine in the KTM is arguably one of the best engines ever built into a motorcycle frame. And yes they're very reliable!!
LOL, I owned a 1290SDR for 5 years (2015-2020) and my first 5 bikes were Honda's and a Kawasaki, yes, I own a BMW and Triumph right now and that makes me a "BMW Rider". Hmm...funny 🤣🤣
Great to find you Scott... Your content is outstanding! Seems you and I speak the same language my friend. I recently purchased my 57th motorcycle having owned everything from motocross, Goldwing, Ducati and of course KTM (some of my favorite bikes). Your reviews cover the details we need and as mentioned, I seem to fully understand your descriptions just by the way you describe things with fine details. You do a fantastic job producing these valuable reviews. Thank you... I'll be viewing much more of what your channel has to offer!
I had a 2022 1290 SAS. It's a pretty great bike. Some flaws: the indicator control was horrific, since fixed for 23 as I saw in a dealership! Unfixed: For a massive engine, it's surprisingly easy to stall. It turns over more than you'd expect to start it. Very occasionally the dynamic preload would crap out and the bike would need a restart (dealer said 'yeah, they just do that'). But that's about it really. Otherwise it's a face pulling monster and a comfy tourer. If you don't want a face pulling monster, then yeah, a GS is a solid alternative. The KTM seat isn't all-day comfortable that's for sure.
Awesome on the Autobahn seemed to hit 150+ mph with ease. Good to see more refinement and more subtle color schemes from team orange. Great review Scott much appreciated 👍
I have got SAS 23 in Orange since July. I had 990 SMT and 1190SAS. I was not sure if I want change because 1190 was a great bike. Even test ride didn’t speak to me but after 8.5k on this bike I love it. It is completely different bike comparing to the old. Chassis, engine, electronic all together makes me so much smile on my face. Exhaust is ugly but since 2 weeks I have got Wings installed and the look and sound is awesome!!!
Same experience for me! I have a 2022 also with the wings. Wings even told me the factory luggage will still work with the exhaust! One of the SAS'S greatest attributes is its low speed handling and active suspension. The suspension is phenomenal on this bike.
this is an amazing, extremely competitive and if you want also furious adventure bike. The best splits between fast, precize, sporty, souverain and long trip with a lot of luggage. Riding on alpine roads on it is like riding on a rocket, there are simply no limits... I made ~ 17.000km the last 7 months and I'd not change to any other, no Multi nor GS. 1290 SAS is a real, but easy ridable beast under all other comparable bikes. And I tried many other...
I own a gs 1250 and u duke 890 , i bought the gs for the longer rides an the comfort , i love the comfort of te bmw but it istn as fun as the duke , love them both!
Hı Scott. I think a KTM 1290 SAS is the most hooligan bike in its class. Fastest, lightest, more nimble than others and also consumes least gasoline ( my average is 5.8 in city, 4.6 highway) ; however of course GS is more refined, reliable and comfortable. If you want to ride a naked bike disguised as an enduro, you should buy a KTM; Get ready for great fun. 🧡
Good Video I have done 23,000 miles on my KTM 1290 sas 2021 model coming from over 200,000 mile son BMW GS GSA i have to say the build quality on the KTM out shine the beemer particularly in the plastics so much stronger and the whole feel of the bike if you feel it going over is far better on the KTM. The new GS1300 weight is not going to be as good as the KTM as all the BMW press show the lighter bike as in the STD Army issue model as soon a you put a extra on it were back in big weights! That said until I ride one I'll await my decision which will be my 2024 bike ? The GS Headlight will take some living with LOL. If you think KTM's are ugly BMW GS has now taken the crown. I also hate how BMW don't give you a back brake light module just indicators? Having been Rammed in the rear on my GS 1250 Rallye I can't see why they've taken the light off! Anyway all will b reviled after test rides.. Thanks for the video ride safe youtube@flapjackandbeans
Pardon me if the question has been asked already, but is the death wobble at high speed widely reported by reviewers on the 21 model still occurring on this updated model?
150+ mph armchair rocketship. What is the point of squashing your knees and weighting your wrists on a supersports bike on the road? Remember, these premium machines cost considerably less than most second/hobby/leisure cars. Fantastic value.
I have the same vertion love it but: high speed wobble after 180km/h can not be accepted. Even though i got he comfort seat, its bad. My but hurts after 1,5 -2 hours of ride.
Ergos...my wife's feet where hitting the back of my legs when I was on the balls of my feet...which made it a no go for our next 2up bike. Also get the same issue on the Moto Guzzi v85tt. I'm measuring at 6'3" .
I have agonised over this bike for years, I really want one but can’t afford it not to be reliable. Whenever there is a KTM review however positive there always seems to be someone with a horror story. I know you had a SDR many years ago, Are these worries justified?
Have completed 10000 miles last weekend on my 2021 Honda Africa Twin AS ES DCT. Only changed oil and tires-performance is flawless and though not as powerful as this KTM, I love the power I do have. Plus only Honda (and Indian) was smart enough to include Apple 🚗 Play ❤
Yes, I've owned a 2015 KTM 1290SDR for almost 5 years and never had any problems, just changed the oil and regular service intervals, that's it. I also know Karl, the SAS guy, I just did a 2 week trip with me on my RT and him on his 2017 1290SAS and he has never had a problem either. So from personal experience, I cannot say anything bad about KTM reliability. take care, Scott
I had a 2023 790 adventure as a loaner bike (yes, the chinese one :) ). Brand new, 500 and a bit kms on board and the quickshifter had a 50-50 chance of trowing a false neutral when shifting from 4th to 5th. Yesterday I went to the dealer, early in the morning and about 5 KTMs (including two 1290 S ) were purring nicely outside and when I asked why, the dealer said it's because they need to be ready for potential customers to try. I didn't press the topic at that moment but later I rememberd something about KTMs sometimes not running perfectly if they are a bit cold ... And then you have the not insignificant ammount of not so good experiences from different riders with all sorts of issues, mainly electronic. I remember watching a video from a guy called AndiManCam, and a friend of his who joined a ride on a new 1290 super duke, had all sorts of electronic issues. That being said, I thing they are amazing machines when they work as advertised but that last part seems to be a matter of luck ....
congratulations on your video. I'm Brazilian and I live in the United States and I've always had a KTM (1190/e 1290), but I also really liked Your JEANS, could you give me the brand and/or who sells it? Thank you
I saw the Trilobite Parado on Scott first, I believe he was test riding a black 2018 1290 SAS, I liked it, bought the black one and never looked back, it's that comfortable and stylish
Have not heard of multistrada wobble instability at high speed but a used multi with 15-20k miles is same price as new ktm and that’s not even a rally!
Lovely review! Do you think KTM is still going to be bringing a 490 (parallel twin) product to market? It just feels like there is such a gap between the 890-1290 and the 390.
Gran bella moto l’ho comprata 3 mesi fa Peccato che il motore ogni tanto si spenga improvvisamente e non riparta più Mi è successo 3 volte, 2 in autostrada col rischio di essere tamponato dalle auto che seguivano KTM non ci ha capito una mazza, hanno sostituito tutto il cablaggio elettrico Speriamo bene x il futuro
Have you ridden the Africa Twin? To this day, that still is one of the most disappointing bikes I've ridden. I would call it very agricultural. That big 'ol twin was just so viby... Anything but refined. Not to mention the chaotic instrument cluster.
the africa twin was agricultural and vibey ?? not the two ive ridden they were actually more refined feeling than my ktm 1190 and ktm 1090r just not as exciting to ride much lower performance
Sure have, see videos below, ridden it several times in the last 4 years. If you call the AT agricultural, then you won't like this or the Ducati. th-cam.com/video/1Hkuu8-45Xs/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/INXMReTw1JM/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/UQIzgCRwibc/w-d-xo.html
Ciao, bel video. Possiedo ktm1290 sas 2022 e già a 165 km/h l'anteriore si alleggerisce rendendola instabile, anche con le sospensioni in automatico e col precarico al 50% , ho provato anche con precarico a 70% ma il risultato non cambia. Come è settata la tua ? Grazie
@@sbabbaro1977 good. On my 14 1190adv, I raise the forks 1 inch and finally able to do 140mph so far without wobble. U might have to adjust forks on your bike too. The front end on these bikes is too light overall, especially during acceleration.
@jonasbaine3538 well, I had also read this on some groups. I'll try balancing the tires first, if it doesn't work I'll try adjusting the forks. Thank you
I would choose this beast if it hadn't that alien face. Give her a better look KTM. Imagine how many out there wan't even consider the bike do to it's look. I mean, the norden 901 looks way better, so you design a better looking machine. Ducati listen more to customers (fans, buyers, call'em what you want) than any other producer
Yea, it does, right around 180kmp is about all it can do with the side cases and you can really feel it. But with my 1250RT I can do 230kmp with the side cases on and still perfect...go figure.
Yep, too bad they've been out of production for quite a few years. The only difference between bikes made 10 years ago and today is electronics/tech, the rest is still basically the same. Are today's bikes better? Hmm...
Obviously a great engine, but I've sat on it and it's too plasticy for me. I prefer BMW and Ducati on the build quality front, but you can't beat that KTM engine.
Hmm it seems to have lost it’s ‘child’s diseases’ now, but I still don’t like the looks. Too much plastic and, you said it, an ugly exhaust. It makes me even more curious to your review of the 1300 GS. I’m looking forward to that!
thank you for another great video.
got my 1290 SAS at the end of april. mine is grey as well. put on comfort seats mainly because the originals are not heated. the wiring is there though.
already put on 6,500 km. done two trips. the first one to Çeşme/İzmir with my better half. the second one to Çanakkale alone. BMW GS might be a bit more comfy, but the performance is incomparable. this one simply explodes when you open the throttle.
as you aptly stated "Dr. Jekyll & Mr Hide character" of the bike is awesome.
I owned a Honda CBR 1100 Superblackbird and a Kawasaki ZX-10 R in the past. that background was the reason I chose this over a BMW GS and it did not dissapoint.
when you want it, the bike is a comfy two up adventure tourer. when you wanna hit some curves for some spirited riding, it feels like a tall superbike. second and third gear power wheelies and all the manic stuff.
can't wait to take it to a track day at Istanbul Park :)
Merhaba:) I am planning to buy one tomorrow as well. I have couple of questions if you do not mind?
What about the service.
Are you still happy with the bike?
Did you change the tire?
Do you have these head shaking (kata salami sıkıntısı) at 210km ?
Thanks for the great comment btw :)
i test rode a 1290R & a 1290 Super Duke diff times when my other ktm was in the shop , crazy good bikes both of them with torque thats just intoxicating !! but im more off road focused so went smaller a bit
Incredible machine for the price. Probably the best V-Twin engine on the market.
"Best V-Twin on the market", I couldn't agree more!
I appreciate his honesty considering he's a BMW Rider. Let's face it most of us don't go out on Long hauls or take those thousand Mile trips. We stay around home. The fun factor is in the KTM. I honestly believe that the LC 8 engine in the KTM is arguably one of the best engines ever built into a motorcycle frame. And yes they're very reliable!!
LOL, I owned a 1290SDR for 5 years (2015-2020) and my first 5 bikes were Honda's and a Kawasaki, yes, I own a BMW and Triumph right now and that makes me a "BMW Rider". Hmm...funny 🤣🤣
Great to find you Scott... Your content is outstanding! Seems you and I speak the same language my friend. I recently purchased my 57th motorcycle having owned everything from motocross, Goldwing, Ducati and of course KTM (some of my favorite bikes).
Your reviews cover the details we need and as mentioned, I seem to fully understand your descriptions just by the way you describe things with fine details. You do a fantastic job producing these valuable reviews. Thank you... I'll be viewing much more of what your channel has to offer!
I like this Chanel and your way to explain the bike
I had a 2022 1290 SAS. It's a pretty great bike. Some flaws: the indicator control was horrific, since fixed for 23 as I saw in a dealership! Unfixed: For a massive engine, it's surprisingly easy to stall. It turns over more than you'd expect to start it. Very occasionally the dynamic preload would crap out and the bike would need a restart (dealer said 'yeah, they just do that'). But that's about it really. Otherwise it's a face pulling monster and a comfy tourer. If you don't want a face pulling monster, then yeah, a GS is a solid alternative. The KTM seat isn't all-day comfortable that's for sure.
Thank you for your honest owner comment. It's comments like this that we need in the real world today.
take care,
Scott
Hı, ı bought a ergo seat from powerparts, it is a game changer.
The little longer turnover to start is by design to get some oil moving before it fires.
@@kj385 oh interesting. Good to know. I did wonder.
Awesome on the Autobahn seemed to hit 150+ mph with ease. Good to see more refinement and more subtle color schemes from team orange. Great review Scott much appreciated 👍
I have got SAS 23 in Orange since July. I had 990 SMT and 1190SAS. I was not sure if I want change because 1190 was a great bike. Even test ride didn’t speak to me but after 8.5k on this bike I love it. It is completely different bike comparing to the old. Chassis, engine, electronic all together makes me so much smile on my face. Exhaust is ugly but since 2 weeks I have got Wings installed and the look and sound is awesome!!!
Same experience for me! I have a 2022 also with the wings. Wings even told me the factory luggage will still work with the exhaust!
One of the SAS'S greatest attributes is its low speed handling and active suspension. The suspension is phenomenal on this bike.
Crazy. Current own a duke 890r and will be trading it in today for a 2023 1290 SAS. Synchronicity baby!!!
Congrats 👏
Enjoy it! It is a realy great bike.
The first 1000km will be a bit subdued until it swaps to the regular mapping
Also. Get the tech pack
I currently own both simultaneously. Can´t be happier with that mix.
I want to keep my 890r have both…
this is an amazing, extremely competitive and if you want also furious adventure bike. The best splits between fast, precize, sporty, souverain and long trip with a lot of luggage. Riding on alpine roads on it is like riding on a rocket, there are simply no limits...
I made ~ 17.000km the last 7 months and I'd not change to any other, no Multi nor GS. 1290 SAS is a real, but easy ridable beast under all other comparable bikes. And I tried many other...
I own a gs 1250 and u duke 890 , i bought the gs for the longer rides an the comfort , i love the comfort of te bmw but it istn as fun as the duke , love them both!
153mph+ hey that’s movin’!
Good brakes too, very nice. 👌🏽
37 years bevore I dit regulary 280 km/h =174 mph on the Autobahn with a Suzuki GSX-R 1100 on my way to work.
@Zimmermann310 your trophy is coming in the mail
@@plurz215 Thanks but I don't need a trophy I still have a very reliable and fast Suzuki thats more worth as any trophy.
This bike can go easy at 260
@@ktm1290adv 260 was with bikes in the 1980's easy to reach.
Hı Scott. I think a KTM 1290 SAS is the most hooligan bike in its class. Fastest, lightest, more nimble than others and also consumes least gasoline ( my average is 5.8 in city, 4.6 highway) ; however of course GS is more refined, reliable and comfortable. If you want to ride a naked bike disguised as an enduro, you should buy a KTM; Get ready for great fun. 🧡
Cool video ❤❤❤❤
Thank you 🙏
I definitely wouldn't call the 1290 a gentleman's adventure bike more like the hulagans adventure bike
I was about to say the same haha
Well, considering what it was vs. what it is now...
So we're saying it's a more civilised hulagan haha
Great review!
Thanks.
$15999 right now as a leftover at my local dealer!
$15495 at mine! 2024 brand new.
Loved your Bi Äm Wi, mate 👍
Good Video I have done 23,000 miles on my KTM 1290 sas 2021 model coming from over 200,000 mile son BMW GS GSA i have to say the build quality on the KTM out shine the beemer particularly in the plastics so much stronger and the whole feel of the bike if you feel it going over is far better on the KTM. The new GS1300 weight is not going to be as good as the KTM as all the BMW press show the lighter bike as in the STD Army issue model as soon a you put a extra on it were back in big weights! That said until I ride one I'll await my decision which will be my 2024 bike ? The GS Headlight will take some living with LOL. If you think KTM's are ugly BMW GS has now taken the crown. I also hate how BMW don't give you a back brake light module just indicators? Having been Rammed in the rear on my GS 1250 Rallye I can't see why they've taken the light off! Anyway all will b reviled after test rides.. Thanks for the video ride safe youtube@flapjackandbeans
Great to know that KTM is finallt getting closer the GS.
(No Tiger for me)
Nice bike!
Great video as always Scott
Thanks
Pardon me if the question has been asked already, but is the death wobble at high speed widely reported by reviewers on the 21 model still occurring on this updated model?
150+ mph armchair rocketship. What is the point of squashing your knees and weighting your wrists on a supersports bike on the road? Remember, these premium machines cost considerably less than most second/hobby/leisure cars. Fantastic value.
I have the same vertion love it but: high speed wobble after 180km/h can not be accepted. Even though i got he comfort seat, its bad. My but hurts after 1,5 -2 hours of ride.
Any pillion experience?
Ergos...my wife's feet where hitting the back of my legs when I was on the balls of my feet...which made it a no go for our next 2up bike. Also get the same issue on the Moto Guzzi v85tt. I'm measuring at 6'3" .
I have agonised over this bike for years, I really want one but can’t afford it not to be reliable. Whenever there is a KTM review however positive there always seems to be someone with a horror story. I know you had a SDR many years ago, Are these worries justified?
Have completed 10000 miles last weekend on my 2021 Honda Africa Twin AS ES DCT. Only changed oil and tires-performance is flawless and though not as powerful as this KTM, I love the power I do have. Plus only Honda (and Indian) was smart enough to include Apple 🚗 Play ❤
Yes, I've owned a 2015 KTM 1290SDR for almost 5 years and never had any problems, just changed the oil and regular service intervals, that's it. I also know Karl, the SAS guy, I just did a 2 week trip with me on my RT and him on his 2017 1290SAS and he has never had a problem either. So from personal experience, I cannot say anything bad about KTM reliability.
take care,
Scott
@forestmotoadventures Yes especially in the adventure bike world Japanese reliability definitely gives you some peace of mind.
@NothingToProve Thanks Scott for your take, perception vs reality when it comes to KTM is something that I have struggled with.
I had a 2023 790 adventure as a loaner bike (yes, the chinese one :) ). Brand new, 500 and a bit kms on board and the quickshifter had a 50-50 chance of trowing a false neutral when shifting from 4th to 5th. Yesterday I went to the dealer, early in the morning and about 5 KTMs (including two 1290 S ) were purring nicely outside and when I asked why, the dealer said it's because they need to be ready for potential customers to try. I didn't press the topic at that moment but later I rememberd something about KTMs sometimes not running perfectly if they are a bit cold ... And then you have the not insignificant ammount of not so good experiences from different riders with all sorts of issues, mainly electronic. I remember watching a video from a guy called AndiManCam, and a friend of his who joined a ride on a new 1290 super duke, had all sorts of electronic issues. That being said, I thing they are amazing machines when they work as advertised but that last part seems to be a matter of luck ....
congratulations on your video. I'm Brazilian and I live in the United States and I've always had a KTM (1190/e 1290), but I also really liked Your JEANS, could you give me the brand and/or who sells it?
Thank you
Thank you! The jeans are Trilobite Agnox 👍
I saw the Trilobite Parado on Scott first, I believe he was test riding a black 2018 1290 SAS, I liked it, bought the black one and never looked back, it's that comfortable and stylish
N.B. on the American market, it's called Trilobite Parado.
but would you take the ktm over the multistrada v4s?
Have not heard of multistrada wobble instability at high speed but a used multi with 15-20k miles is same price as new ktm and that’s not even a rally!
@@jonasbaine3538 only up to 115 mph so far and very stable
V4S!
Lovely review!
Do you think KTM is still going to be bringing a 490 (parallel twin) product to market?
It just feels like there is such a gap between the 890-1290 and the 390.
I don't know but there is a market for it, so I hope so!
Gran bella moto l’ho comprata 3 mesi fa
Peccato che il motore ogni tanto si spenga improvvisamente e non riparta più
Mi è successo 3 volte, 2 in autostrada col rischio di essere tamponato dalle auto che seguivano
KTM non ci ha capito una mazza, hanno sostituito tutto il cablaggio elettrico
Speriamo bene x il futuro
Have you ridden the Africa Twin? To this day, that still is one of the most disappointing bikes I've ridden. I would call it very agricultural. That big 'ol twin was just so viby... Anything but refined. Not to mention the chaotic instrument cluster.
couldn't disagree more
the africa twin was agricultural and vibey ?? not the two ive ridden they were actually more refined feeling than my ktm 1190 and ktm 1090r just not as exciting to ride much lower performance
@@justsomedude445 exactly
Sure have, see videos below, ridden it several times in the last 4 years. If you call the AT agricultural, then you won't like this or the Ducati.
th-cam.com/video/1Hkuu8-45Xs/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/INXMReTw1JM/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/UQIzgCRwibc/w-d-xo.html
Great engine, great performance and refinement, but the looks and reliability reputation, I’ll stick with my beautiful red Multistrada V2S…
Ciao, bel video. Possiedo ktm1290 sas 2022 e già a 165 km/h l'anteriore si alleggerisce rendendola instabile, anche con le sospensioni in automatico e col precarico al 50% , ho provato anche con precarico a 70% ma il risultato non cambia. Come è settata la tua ? Grazie
Check wheel balance and make sure rear axle sliders are perfectly aligned.
@jonasbaine3538 I'll check out what you suggested. Thank you.
@@sbabbaro1977 good. On my 14 1190adv, I raise the forks 1 inch and finally able to do 140mph so far without wobble. U might have to adjust forks on your bike too. The front end on these bikes is too light overall, especially during acceleration.
@jonasbaine3538 well, I had also read this on some groups. I'll try balancing the tires first, if it doesn't work I'll try adjusting the forks.
Thank you
I would choose this beast if it hadn't that alien face. Give her a better look KTM. Imagine how many out there wan't even consider the bike do to it's look. I mean, the norden 901 looks way better, so you design a better looking machine. Ducati listen more to customers (fans, buyers, call'em what you want) than any other producer
I think the instability gonna get worse with the panniers for sure
Yea, it does, right around 180kmp is about all it can do with the side cases and you can really feel it. But with my 1250RT I can do 230kmp with the side cases on and still perfect...go figure.
@@NothingToProve I can do 230 sometimes a bit more with my 1200 GSA with panniers full of luggage 😁
Is it not 1L = 1Kg
Look up the term density
For almost one third the price the Suzuki Bandit 1250s will do everything these modern bikes are supposed to do.
Yep, too bad they've been out of production for quite a few years. The only difference between bikes made 10 years ago and today is electronics/tech, the rest is still basically the same. Are today's bikes better? Hmm...
for me GS = Mercedes smooth comfy gentle perfect。 KTM = Porsche noisy vibra rough hardcore。
It cant go faster than the Autobahn!
Obviously a great engine, but I've sat on it and it's too plasticy for me. I prefer BMW and Ducati on the build quality front, but you can't beat that KTM engine.
My Multi 4vs is just as plasticy as the sas to be honest
@@H0gyoku it probably is, but it doesn't feel that way in the cockpit. Everything is high quality including the backlit switchgear.
Never ridden one, would like to try one out though. PS. German towns always look immaculate.
@@MrBecksy2 "German towns look always immaculate"?
Some do, still, yes...
That's why I always go to the little villages, big towns are all the same, too many people 😁
I did 260 on my 2016 Super Adventure!:)😊
Needs more orange.
I'll stick with my Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally. The KTM hurts my backside too quickly.
The v4 rally hurts my wallet
Hmm it seems to have lost it’s ‘child’s diseases’ now, but I still don’t like the looks. Too much plastic and, you said it, an ugly exhaust. It makes me even more curious to your review of the 1300 GS. I’m looking forward to that!
I know looks are subjective, but boy, it's not the prettiest bike on the street.
Agreed!
I like it, it looks like a war horse
good bike but buttons are ugly and no practical!
It’s ugly and desirability is a big factor.
It’s such an ugly duckling though.. I mean, come on. And that plastic, cheap looking switch gear. The details matter (to me anyway)
Not exactly a looker, lol.
Check out the 1390 pics 😂
Ktm is just hideous