Oh, I feel you. I'm having one of those days too. My living situation is somewhat difficult. I live with my parents but I'm getting really stressed out with our differences, seeing guilt manipulation, even though they love me. I don't have much to move out but my dad is sick with Parkinson's. I feel guilty but I can't stand being forced to do certain things I don't agree with. What is this world going to offer me? I'm lonely but I don't want to be around people. My body feels limp and all I can do is think. Even though we're miles away, I can feel exactly what you're describing.
Joy I had depression so bad. Ty for sharing ur story. I literally did the bare minimum. And I couldn’t be around ppl even tho they needed the interaction - that further made me feel horrible. Ppl have no idea how debilitating anxiety or depression can be. Being extremely sad or terrified is a tough way to get they life. Anyways, thank you for sharing. I see it’s not just me. But in 2020, I’m trying to be more in the moment and proactive re my future. Hope this helps. Thx for the vid!
Joyous Prairies please know that you’re not the only one. We support you. And again thank you for sharing. I don’t have many individuals around me who know about MBTI or even care to. But that knowledge helps me. Im still new to it tho.
I am in the depths of despair right now, so I can't speak from a position of success, but I can say this, and I hope that it helps more than it hurts: For me, having depression has never been about something I "have," but rather about the things I needed that I didn't have - like security, stability, freedom, people close to me that I could really trust, a sense of belonging, a life purpose that was worthy of my time and gifts, and someone to love that was capable of authentically loving me back, and HOPE. They say depression and despair are not the same thing, but I'm not so sure that they aren't. Fixing my diet, getting UV light, exercising...sure they all helped a little bit, but they were never going to be a solution. We need all of our true needs met, and we need hope - "Don't give me songs. Give me something to sing about." - btvs I think for many people with depression, just realizing that they are missing something and figuring out what their true needs even are is the biggest challenge which eludes them.
As INFJ's, those things matters more to us. Everything matters more to us. It's astounding how many people are perfectly content to live small, pointless lives. And to them, we are "ill" for not sharing that contentment.
The thing I find the hardest is when I have a bout of clarity and mental well being, I feel perhaps my depression will become a thing of the past....but somehow it appears out of nowhere via an unknown trigger point...and it causes me more sadness as I thought I was finally feeling more normal more often. I'm currently in a downer, hence looking at this particular video.... I know I'll come out of it at some point but there's an underlying sadness that there will be more moments in my future like the one I'm experiencing right now. The lessons I learn during my mountain top experiences (my highs) I unfortunately forget during my valley moments (my lows). I'm trying though.
Hi my infj friend please don’t hurt ur self I love u and I see the beauty with in and out ur heart, my 3rd eye gleams and I can see ur chakra are unbalance just rest assure and take good care of ur health no sugar more greens less oil.
Oh my gosh my heart goes out to you. I totally understand and can relate to everything you said! Especially about feeling the need to stuff it all down and being afraid to feel it to even wanting to hide from your family and not wanting to socialize. I felt this way yesterday. After my separation with my narcissistic husband, the abuse still ongoing from a distance and the aftermath of the relationship, being alone with my two kids now, I have these days alot. And don't want my kids to see me struggle because I need to be the strong one. I'm sorry you have felt this today, its an awful thing ❤
Hey! It happens dear. Another INFJ thats been in constant rock bottom. I feel like looking into where the pain and confusion is coming from can be helpful in a way. People won’t understand so it’s best to feel through this and when you get that wake up call one morning or night, it will clear and make sense
Have faith it'll pass and be gentle with yourself, maybe you're peopled out after the holidays. also just check on what you've been eating, there's a big connection with our digestive tract bacteria and our brains. I've just had a couple of down days brought on by the wrong foods.
There are some crappy microwave meals that I have bought in the past that had made me profoundly depressed for days. Goodness knows what chemicals are in there that are affecting me. Maybe it's to do with us being highly sensitive and these preservative, colouring taste enhancing compounds have a bigger effect on us.
@@johnearnshaw5036 I eat pretty clean but christmastime I like my sweets. I really cannot eat any premade packaged food due to the celiac disease so everything I ate was homemade sugary junk
@@johnearnshaw5036 yes, yes it is. Along with a laundry list of other things. Not being diagnosed until age 27 I am sure many things can be blamed on the old celiac's
Haven't had a chance to watch the video yet, will do that soon. There is nothing wrong with being depressed, nothing wrong with you when you feel depressed. Fighting depression always makes it worse for me. Better to just accept it, let it run its course, and then be sure to appreciate the next time you feel good... You can't have a mountain if there are no valleys, there is no up if down doesn't exist. Hope you feel better soon.
I am curious if you might be a hyper-sensitive person. Essentially a person who takes in stimulation such as light, sound, pain, or emotion more so than the average person. I had major depressive disorder for about 10 years. I refused meds and sought alternative treatments as every counselor I went to tried to get me to take a pill. Anyway, I found a book titled Quiet by Susan Caine and it really helped me find how to deal with extroverted people around me. I realized I am not build like them, that being introverted has strengths, and that I was a HSP and that the over stimulation, the constant pushing myself was what was causing my depression. That was just my situation but I do find that learning how to unwind in a healthy manner can go a long way to help. Just know that this depression is temporary, that you are loved, and not to be to critical of yourself for you time.
I am definitely an HSP. I am reading Elaine Arons book currently. It is making a lot of sense. My therapist does not push meds. Which I am grateful for. I have taken meds in the past but not for 3 years
Did you ever try kratom? It's a little controversial, a natural "supplement" made of leaves, that you drink in a tea. It's legal in most states. It has helped my depression so very much over the years. Medication/therapy never worked for me. I'm not advocating anything that makes you feel "high"- I hate alcohol and pot because I'm super sensitive, so I never do those things, but WOW kratom is like coffee mixed with a warm hug, motivating and kind of euphoric, makes you want to talk to people and get things done, even if you are slipping into depression. Just a thought! I understand that it's definitely not for everyone! Glad you're feeling better lately!!!
Whenever I am feeling depressed it’s because I am believing something is that isn’t truth. Such false beliefs are created by accepting other people’s assumptions who are not INFJ’s -that we are weird, that we analyze things too much etc. Some people, don’t want to look at themselves so, they will tell you are over-analytical for example. My sense, is you have accepted some false labels from other people who don’t want to look deeper at their motivations and what is troubling their lives. We INFJ’s can look at this compassionately, but it important is to not take things too personally. Bullshit is bullshit no matter from whom it is coming from. What I recommend is to consider the source FE and then, adjust your thinking TI so, you may start seeing things more from an objective SE perspective... INFJ’s tend to think the source of depression is internal, sometimes, it is not. Don’t let guilt, shame or negative emotion disable you.
Joyous Prairies focus on your strengths not your perceived weaknesses. The more you focus on your perceived weaknesses the weaker and more powerless you will feel. I say, perceived because the things we perceive we realize to make real...Don’t try, do... You are strong - more than you know. Don’t entertain lies told you by other people even, if they pretend to be Christian God fearing people. I have been there done that...
For me, the best thing to help depression has been to accept that it doesn't have a cause. There is nothing to fix. There is nothing wrong with you. Depression just is. Let it be.
@@jordandavis2339 yes. I usually try to work myself out if it or push it away. This time I am trying to just be. Although I told my husband today that i will be snow blowing today's snow so i have something to do. I am so bored and cannot drive in this weather
Wow that’s rough. When I get that way I hide in my cave. Everyone knows to stay away. Like most everything in life, dealing with depression or “foul moods” as I call them is harder for INFJ women with family responsibilities. You can’t just hide like I do for a couple of days.
That's funny you should say that....I can't imagine being a woman with this personality..😵 My wife already reminds me every month why she gets moody, but that I have absolutely no excuse. I'm thinking about getting me a little flag that has the letters "INFJ Ni Ti Loop" embroidered on it and having it next to my recliner. Next time she tells me I have no excuse, I'll just pick up that flag and wave it in the air. 🏴☠️
Have you considered automatic writing? You might be surprised what you have clogged up in there. It might sound like a chore, but it can be helpful to kind of narrow down and apply weighted meaning to specific things that swirl around and threaten to overflow the proverbial toilet. I notice patterns in my writing...certain words or a phrase...generally writing forces the mind to low down enough for the hand to transcribe. That delay is wicked helpful allowing the writing process to flow. I don't think bout what I want to write about, I do practice centering myself before hand to set my intention to "see" without negativity, judgement, criticism or doubt. It's kind of like deliberately touching base with my authentic self. I have had some sobering writing sessions...writing has also helped be separate emotion and thought so I can process crap appropriately. It doesnt always lead to an answer, it may help you to understand yourself better.
@@joyousprairies9313 I struggle for a long time with writing...perfectionist flaw lol. One day my husband made a weird side comment about me reading my writing..."you might be surprised what you might find in there"! 😕 even though i resisted and I may have imagined a couple of middle finger moments for him over it...he was kind of right. We're in the middle of a life change...retiring from the military, building a homestead in a state we never lived in. So I write about stupid stuff like the terribleness of Guinea hens...gardening, and other follies/adventures. Writing intentionally about myself is impossible and only resurfaces darkness for me...we've all got a shadow, mine is kind of a jerk...just saying
@@joyousprairies9313 guineas...distort the dna😨 ours only seemed to be proficient at finding shell casings, frogs, wasps and weird random crap. Not a single tick ninja in the bunch...fail! Those suckers got a DOOR SLAM...lol
Again Christ Jesus spoke to them, saying : “I am the light of the world.” “Whoever follows Me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”
Being honest with yourself and with God is not "speaking a curse over yourself". I think that is some of the fallacy teaching that has come from the Word of Faith movement....of which I do not subscribe. Jesus prayed for a man to receive his sight and he asked the man, "What do you see" and he answered....'I see men as trees walking"...That man was only being honest with who he was and what he saw....he was not speaking a curse and he was not lying about his situation. God knew what he saw...so there is no need to hide the truth from him. He knows how you feel today and he knows this episode and you're not speaking a curse by confessing how you feel to him or to the rest of us. Jesus couldn't make the man completely whole until he spoke the truth about his condition. And the very fact that you are speaking the truth today is a positive step on the road to recovery. All of us out here in INFJ land love and appreciate you.....and we thank you for sharing it all....even when it hurts to do so. 🙏☝️
Thank you for this. That teaching about cursing myself definitely came from my last years in church. I am not subscribing to it anymore, amen It always follows with guilt and shame, after I spoke the truth thinking I was cursing myself. I appreciate you preacher
@@joyousprairies9313 Amen!! We all have enough shame in our lives as it is....we don't need anymore...especially for simply telling the truth. I firmly believe this is exactly why Jesus healed that blind man in the way he did so. He knew there would be people who would put his sheep into bondage thinking they had to constantly be lying about their own physical, emotional, and spiritual wellbeing. Don't live under that oppression anymore . Because.....that doctrine is the curse!!
I feel like you need attention so much I’ve been depressed long time and realised it after. Wanted to do a mass merder and kill myself it was normal to me. Beeing in the street 3 months really hope me to know I can be happy with everything.
Thank you everyone for your amazing support. I appreciate you so so so much
”Feelings are like my Indian relatives. They come uninvited and stay far to long, but suddenly they are all gone.”
- Debu Gosh
Ive suffered with depression for many years, i feel your pain. 💙💛🧡❤💜💚
Oh, I feel you. I'm having one of those days too. My living situation is somewhat difficult. I live with my parents but I'm getting really stressed out with our differences, seeing guilt manipulation, even though they love me. I don't have much to move out but my dad is sick with Parkinson's. I feel guilty but I can't stand being forced to do certain things I don't agree with. What is this world going to offer me? I'm lonely but I don't want to be around people. My body feels limp and all I can do is think. Even though we're miles away, I can feel exactly what you're describing.
Oh, that's tough! Winter time blues I guess, makes everything harder doesn't it?
Joy I had depression so bad. Ty for sharing ur story.
I literally did the bare minimum. And I couldn’t be around ppl even tho they needed the interaction - that further made me feel horrible. Ppl have no idea how debilitating anxiety or depression can be. Being extremely sad or terrified is a tough way to get they life.
Anyways, thank you for sharing. I see it’s not just me. But in 2020, I’m trying to be more in the moment and proactive re my future. Hope this helps. Thx for the vid!
Terrible how we add to our misery by examining what other people might need despite our misery
Joyous Prairies please know that you’re not the only one. We support you. And again thank you for sharing. I don’t have many individuals around me who know about MBTI or even care to. But that knowledge helps me. Im still new to it tho.
@@WutIDoDaily we are are learning as we go, myself included
I am in the depths of despair right now, so I can't speak from a position of success, but I can say this, and I hope that it helps more than it hurts:
For me, having depression has never been about something I "have," but rather about the things I needed that I didn't have - like security, stability, freedom, people close to me that I could really trust, a sense of belonging, a life purpose that was worthy of my time and gifts, and someone to love that was capable of authentically loving me back, and HOPE. They say depression and despair are not the same thing, but I'm not so sure that they aren't.
Fixing my diet, getting UV light, exercising...sure they all helped a little bit, but they were never going to be a solution. We need all of our true needs met, and we need hope -
"Don't give me songs. Give me something to sing about." - btvs
I think for many people with depression, just realizing that they are missing something and figuring out what their true needs even are is the biggest challenge which eludes them.
We are all searching for those things
As INFJ's, those things matters more to us. Everything matters more to us. It's astounding how many people are perfectly content to live small, pointless lives. And to them, we are "ill" for not sharing that contentment.
The thing I find the hardest is when I have a bout of clarity and mental well being, I feel perhaps my depression will become a thing of the past....but somehow it appears out of nowhere via an unknown trigger point...and it causes me more sadness as I thought I was finally feeling more normal more often. I'm currently in a downer, hence looking at this particular video.... I know I'll come out of it at some point but there's an underlying sadness that there will be more moments in my future like the one I'm experiencing right now. The lessons I learn during my mountain top experiences (my highs) I unfortunately forget during my valley moments (my lows). I'm trying though.
Hi my infj friend please don’t hurt ur self I love u and I see the beauty with in and out ur heart, my 3rd eye gleams and I can see ur chakra are unbalance just rest assure and take good care of ur health no sugar more greens less oil.
Thank you! Thankfully, these episodes never come with self harm thoughts. I am feeling much better these days
Please research and consider a vitamin "D3" supplement and the amino acid supplement "L-Tyrosine" . Luv ya!😊
I take it already, thank you!
Oh my gosh my heart goes out to you. I totally understand and can relate to everything you said! Especially about feeling the need to stuff it all down and being afraid to feel it to even wanting to hide from your family and not wanting to socialize. I felt this way yesterday. After my separation with my narcissistic husband, the abuse still ongoing from a distance and the aftermath of the relationship, being alone with my two kids now, I have these days alot. And don't want my kids to see me struggle because I need to be the strong one. I'm sorry you have felt this today, its an awful thing ❤
I hope you feel better soon.
Hey! It happens dear. Another INFJ thats been in constant rock bottom. I feel like looking into where the pain and confusion is coming from can be helpful in a way. People won’t understand so it’s best to feel through this and when you get that wake up call one morning or night, it will clear and make sense
You're not alone.. I'm depressed too.. Let's hope all goes well soon 😄
Hope you feel better soon. 😊
Have faith it'll pass and be gentle with yourself, maybe you're peopled out after the holidays. also just check on what you've been eating, there's a big connection with our digestive tract bacteria and our brains. I've just had a couple of down days brought on by the wrong foods.
Lots of sugary stuff John.
And dairy, both bad for me.
There are some crappy microwave meals that I have bought in the past that had made me profoundly depressed for days. Goodness knows what chemicals are in there that are affecting me. Maybe it's to do with us being highly sensitive and these preservative, colouring taste enhancing compounds have a bigger effect on us.
@@johnearnshaw5036 I eat pretty clean but christmastime I like my sweets. I really cannot eat any premade packaged food due to the celiac disease so everything I ate was homemade sugary junk
That's interesting, as celiac is linked to depression.
@@johnearnshaw5036 yes, yes it is. Along with a laundry list of other things. Not being diagnosed until age 27 I am sure many things can be blamed on the old celiac's
It’s ok ❤️ I feel so much love for you (not in a creepy way lol, but in a genuine way)
Thank you ❤
I thought I recognized you! I have watched videos from your Mary channel. Hi!
May the Lord Jesus Christ be your strength and comfort though this trying period. (Ps. 34:17-19)
Thank you so much
Haven't had a chance to watch the video yet, will do that soon. There is nothing wrong with being depressed, nothing wrong with you when you feel depressed. Fighting depression always makes it worse for me. Better to just accept it, let it run its course, and then be sure to appreciate the next time you feel good... You can't have a mountain if there are no valleys, there is no up if down doesn't exist. Hope you feel better soon.
Similar to what my therapist says. Feel the emotion, find the truth
Ask for help. Staying busy and running from it only delays it.
Thank you
@@joyousprairies9313 You're welcome, you have people rooting for you... In this group, likely all genuine. Good luck!
Hope today is going better for you.
u aren't alone
I am curious if you might be a hyper-sensitive person. Essentially a person who takes in stimulation such as light, sound, pain, or emotion more so than the average person.
I had major depressive disorder for about 10 years. I refused meds and sought alternative treatments as every counselor I went to tried to get me to take a pill.
Anyway, I found a book titled Quiet by Susan Caine and it really helped me find how to deal with extroverted people around me. I realized I am not build like them, that being introverted has strengths, and that I was a HSP and that the over stimulation, the constant pushing myself was what was causing my depression.
That was just my situation but I do find that learning how to unwind in a healthy manner can go a long way to help.
Just know that this depression is temporary, that you are loved, and not to be to critical of yourself for you time.
I am definitely an HSP. I am reading Elaine Arons book currently. It is making a lot of sense. My therapist does not push meds. Which I am grateful for. I have taken meds in the past but not for 3 years
Praying for you today. God is still on his throne even when we are on our faces under it. 🙏
Thank you. I need it.
Did you ever try kratom? It's a little controversial, a natural "supplement" made of leaves, that you drink in a tea. It's legal in most states. It has helped my depression so very much over the years. Medication/therapy never worked for me. I'm not advocating anything that makes you feel "high"- I hate alcohol and pot because I'm super sensitive, so I never do those things, but WOW kratom is like coffee mixed with a warm hug, motivating and kind of euphoric, makes you want to talk to people and get things done, even if you are slipping into depression. Just a thought! I understand that it's definitely not for everyone! Glad you're feeling better lately!!!
I will look into it! I do feel great currently, this channel and group has helped a lot
Whenever I am feeling depressed it’s because I am believing something is that isn’t truth. Such false beliefs are created by accepting other people’s assumptions who are not INFJ’s -that we are weird, that we analyze things too much etc. Some people, don’t want to look at themselves so, they will tell you are over-analytical for example.
My sense, is you have accepted some false labels from other people who don’t want to look deeper at their motivations and what is troubling their lives. We INFJ’s can look at this compassionately, but it important is to not take things too personally. Bullshit is bullshit no matter from whom it is coming from. What I recommend is to consider the source FE and then, adjust your thinking TI so, you may start seeing things more from an objective SE perspective... INFJ’s tend to think the source of depression is internal, sometimes, it is not. Don’t let guilt, shame or negative emotion disable you.
I am trying , thank you
Joyous Prairies focus on your strengths not your perceived weaknesses. The more you focus on your perceived weaknesses the weaker and more powerless you will feel. I say, perceived because the things we perceive we realize to make real...Don’t try, do... You are strong - more than you know. Don’t entertain lies told you by other people even, if they pretend to be Christian God fearing people. I have been there done that...
For me, the best thing to help depression has been to accept that it doesn't have a cause. There is nothing to fix. There is nothing wrong with you. Depression just is. Let it be.
@@jordandavis2339 yes. I usually try to work myself out if it or push it away. This time I am trying to just be. Although I told my husband today that i will be snow blowing today's snow so i have something to do. I am so bored and cannot drive in this weather
Hmm. Perhaps its post-holiday blues? Doesn't matter why but as the Persian adage says: "This too shall pass." Stay strong!
Yes, this too shall pass. I have lived through it many times, and will again
I will be 34 this month and been depressed since I was 16, no sex friends or family for decades
I am terribly sorry to hear that. It is a lifelong struggle for sure. Therapy helped me the most.
Wow that’s rough. When I get that way I hide in my cave. Everyone knows to stay away. Like most everything in life, dealing with depression or “foul moods” as I call them is harder for INFJ women with family responsibilities. You can’t just hide like I do for a couple of days.
Yes, house needs cleaning, dinner needs cooking, floors dont wash themselves. Asking someone else to do it is more work
That's funny you should say that....I can't imagine being a woman with this personality..😵
My wife already reminds me every month why she gets moody, but that I have absolutely no excuse. I'm thinking about getting me a little flag that has the letters "INFJ Ni Ti Loop" embroidered on it and having it next to my recliner. Next time she tells me I have no excuse, I'll just pick up that flag and wave it in the air. 🏴☠️
I understand, depression is repression or suppression. It became a familiar friend 🤗
Not a good friend. But familiar yes.
@@joyousprairies9313 sometimes the bad friends become something we believe we deserve 💜 because they're so familiar
I know what will help
*_-PINEAPPLES-_*
Have you considered automatic writing? You might be surprised what you have clogged up in there. It might sound like a chore, but it can be helpful to kind of narrow down and apply weighted meaning to specific things that swirl around and threaten to overflow the proverbial toilet. I notice patterns in my writing...certain words or a phrase...generally writing forces the mind to low down enough for the hand to transcribe. That delay is wicked helpful allowing the writing process to flow. I don't think bout what I want to write about, I do practice centering myself before hand to set my intention to "see" without negativity, judgement, criticism or doubt. It's kind of like deliberately touching base with my authentic self.
I have had some sobering writing sessions...writing has also helped be separate emotion and thought so I can process crap appropriately. It doesnt always lead to an answer, it may help you to understand yourself better.
I have done journaling in the past. It was not helpful unfortunately. Now I just talk on camera and watch it back. That has helped immensely
@@joyousprairies9313 I struggle for a long time with writing...perfectionist flaw lol. One day my husband made a weird side comment about me reading my writing..."you might be surprised what you might find in there"! 😕 even though i resisted and I may have imagined a couple of middle finger moments for him over it...he was kind of right. We're in the middle of a life change...retiring from the military, building a homestead in a state we never lived in. So I write about stupid stuff like the terribleness of Guinea hens...gardening, and other follies/adventures. Writing intentionally about myself is impossible and only resurfaces darkness for me...we've all got a shadow, mine is kind of a jerk...just saying
My therapist always says I should be writing. I have chickens, ducks and goats. I had Guinea hens for awhile, stupid creatures!
@@joyousprairies9313 guineas...distort the dna😨 ours only seemed to be proficient at finding shell casings, frogs, wasps and weird random crap. Not a single tick ninja in the bunch...fail! Those suckers got a DOOR SLAM...lol
@@yellowbird9385 mine all came to untimely deaths. Noisy brainless things. They were pretty
Again Christ Jesus spoke to them, saying : “I am the light of the world.”
“Whoever follows Me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”
Sorry. I hate this feeling. Not sure what to advise you. Seeing the amount of snow and sunlight over there, vitamin D may be helpful.
Yes, I take that
Being honest with yourself and with God is not "speaking a curse over yourself". I think that is some of the fallacy teaching that has come from the Word of Faith movement....of which I do not subscribe. Jesus prayed for a man to receive his sight and he asked the man, "What do you see" and he answered....'I see men as trees walking"...That man was only being honest with who he was and what he saw....he was not speaking a curse and he was not lying about his situation. God knew what he saw...so there is no need to hide the truth from him. He knows how you feel today and he knows this episode and you're not speaking a curse by confessing how you feel to him or to the rest of us. Jesus couldn't make the man completely whole until he spoke the truth about his condition. And the very fact that you are speaking the truth today is a positive step on the road to recovery. All of us out here in INFJ land love and appreciate you.....and we thank you for sharing it all....even when it hurts to do so. 🙏☝️
Thank you for this. That teaching about cursing myself definitely came from my last years in church. I am not subscribing to it anymore, amen
It always follows with guilt and shame, after I spoke the truth thinking I was cursing myself. I appreciate you preacher
@@joyousprairies9313 Amen!! We all have enough shame in our lives as it is....we don't need anymore...especially for simply telling the truth. I firmly believe this is exactly why Jesus healed that blind man in the way he did so. He knew there would be people who would put his sheep into bondage thinking they had to constantly be lying about their own physical, emotional, and spiritual wellbeing. Don't live under that oppression anymore . Because.....that doctrine is the curse!!
I feel like you need attention so much I’ve been depressed long time and realised it after. Wanted to do a mass merder and kill myself it was normal to me. Beeing in the street 3 months really hope me to know I can be happy with everything.