Exploring a Rare PowerBook G4 Prototype - Krazy Ken's Tech Misadventures

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  • @ComputerClan
    @ComputerClan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Special thanks to DongleBookPro for making this episode possible! Subscribe and stay tuned for more to come… (hint: Apple's WWDC 2022 is soon). 🔔

    • @theNikNikovsky
      @theNikNikovsky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see what you are going to do next (something like what you did w/ WWDC 2021,right?)

  • @draggonhedd
    @draggonhedd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Those "dimples" in the keys are just artifacts of low production/fast/prototype injection molding, not durability testing.

  • @saurabhkulkarni8854
    @saurabhkulkarni8854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    It didn't bong when the power button was pushed, kinda makes sense that it failed the power on self test. What caused it though is a mystery.

    • @BoxyBoy
      @BoxyBoy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      you can mute the startup chime

    • @PedroBastozz
      @PedroBastozz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BoxyBoy Maybe in modern versions but im not sure you can in such an old mac.

    • @EvilTurkeySlices
      @EvilTurkeySlices 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Could also be bad speakers, I’ve heard it’s a common issue with these 17 inch powerbook. Mine also doesn’t have working speakers.

    • @PretaxEmu
      @PretaxEmu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EvilTurkeySlices I'm thinking it's either bad speakers or a failed POST since the volume was set to full in Mac OS.

    • @fnutech4200
      @fnutech4200 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BoxyBoy boky boy

  • @jdatlas4668
    @jdatlas4668 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Cool! Honestly this era of PowerBook may well be my favorite generation of Apple laptops.

  • @eweweweweew-e6o
    @eweweweweew-e6o 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love these types of “exploring rare prototype …” videos and I love to see the software you find on it like that one iMac. Please make more!

  • @tzd8035
    @tzd8035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is such a cool episode. I just wish it was longer.

  • @hamsterball27
    @hamsterball27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i legit had one of these, i buy laptops in bulk and had a powerbook that had a red logic board, did not know it was a prototype, ended up throwing it out as it had a broken lcd and no one wanted it, even listed it for free and had no interest in it, i now regret throwing it out

  • @EricMBlog
    @EricMBlog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Those key dimples look to me like maybe they didn't have the injection molding tuned quite right, and there was shrinkage. Like I wouldn't be surprised if there is a post or feature molded into the back side of the key at each dimple.

  • @UpLateGeek
    @UpLateGeek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seeing the inside of that PowerBook gave me flashbacks to when I pulled apart my 15" 5,8 to install a SSD. I had a 12" 6,8 before that, but I found the graphics performance of the GeForce FX Go5200 was holding it back, and upgrading to the 15" model was not only a slight bump in CPU speed, but also big upgrade to the graphics with the mobility Radeon 9700.
    The guy who I bought the 12" PB off also asked if I wanted to sell it back to him, so once I got the 15", I just sent the 12" back for free since he gave me a great deal to begin with. I got a pretty good deal on the 15", so that pretty much made up for what I would've gotten for the 12".
    Since then I managed to find an aftermarket replacement battery that actually works, and because I imported it from the UK, I managed to find a replacement US American layout keyboard. But I haven't had a chance to replace it yet, since there's a good risk of destroying something in the process.

  • @hikkamorii
    @hikkamorii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1:24 I work in a company that also makes devices. It's true that prototypes, especially early ones are usually made of cheaper materials, as long as it doesn't affect hardware in it, because who the hell cares how it looks? Certanly not devs.
    One of the devices that I actually still use daily IS a prototype(and is an DVT), and it's chasis is very different from final. The color is black instead of what is final, it has rough edges, and the buttons are not as clicky as on finished product. If I looked closer I probably would've found more differences.

    • @SkynetCyb
      @SkynetCyb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What device do you use that's a prototype? One of your company?

    • @hikkamorii
      @hikkamorii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SkynetCyb Yeah, I'm a dev, and it's also marked as DVT. Pretty cool.

    • @technicolordiode9891
      @technicolordiode9891 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What’s the name of the prototyped product tho?

    • @hikkamorii
      @hikkamorii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@technicolordiode9891 I'm not gonna be specific because my company doesn't like that, but you most likely use this device quite a lot

  • @jaybrooks1098
    @jaybrooks1098 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its a different texture to case because the prototype stage doesn’t require any finish work. This is just a fit and usability version. Probably half way through the test stage. Plus the tooling will not be ready anyways.

  • @sebasvegab3720
    @sebasvegab3720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i like this type of videos because its a quick view of a very rare apple prototype

  • @Classy_Car
    @Classy_Car 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m really loving the prototype board content!

  • @jeremytravis360
    @jeremytravis360 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still have one of the last models of the G4 Powerbook and its box with "All" its original accessories, including the protective cover for the keyboard so it doesn't scratch the screen.
    Nice to see a a prototype though. I know prototype are your thing.

  • @BenceVass11
    @BenceVass11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ken: We'll check out the differences.
    Me: Start off with the scratches....

  • @danickjason3242
    @danickjason3242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First when I saw the scratches on the lid I legit thought for a second or two that this PowerBook belonged to “how to basic”

  • @aidanbrooks771
    @aidanbrooks771 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:04 I bet the display in that housing can show some really Deep Purple’s

  • @iUseAndroid2024
    @iUseAndroid2024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:18 "The rut of the hard drive"

  • @danbarnes4069
    @danbarnes4069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The metal on it looks really worn out. I wonder if its been dropped a few times?

  • @megatronskneecap
    @megatronskneecap 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does this still have the fiberoptic backlight that was all the rage back then?

  • @hcwof5980
    @hcwof5980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Powerbook G4 17" 1.67 GHZ, 2 GB SD Ram is still running strong and all, replaced Hard drive, DVD drive DIY.

  • @andresbravo2003
    @andresbravo2003 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Follow-up video as well to discuss the prototype and the OS?

  • @TheManicTechCast
    @TheManicTechCast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    How do you get these things? Great vid by the way.

    • @lawnside82
      @lawnside82 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s friends with steve Wozniak.

    • @vasya_cat
      @vasya_cat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lawnside82 How does he get these things?

    • @budderbrotDE
      @budderbrotDE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@vasya_cat just looking at the marketplaces ebay etc. probably

    • @TheManicTechCast
      @TheManicTechCast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thx for answering

    • @LegoWormNoah101
      @LegoWormNoah101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheManicTechCast he's in contact with other people that own prototypes (like DongleBookPro as mentioned in the channel)

  • @GunnerSiIva
    @GunnerSiIva 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:00 Yes, my usual PowerBook G4 that I use everyday. Like everyone. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @BilisNegra
    @BilisNegra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:14 "or there's a completely different hard drive in them anyway". Well, the accompanying clip shows the drive was made in '07, so yes, we know where things are going.

  • @alext3811
    @alext3811 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is it with PowerPC and the color red that always leads to bricks, whether PowerBook, Xbox, or PlayStation? I mean, you'd think IBM's partners would account for heating (in the X360 and PS3's case, I'm unsure about PowerBooks (I was born post Y2K, so no personal experience with them)?

  • @pinkgump
    @pinkgump 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is that imac in the background it looks so odd

  • @vineilan
    @vineilan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting video

  • @SilberKSOO
    @SilberKSOO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Impressive, very nice.
    Let's see Paul Allen's Mac.

  • @fetttvable
    @fetttvable 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:02 nice

  • @idkthatsaname
    @idkthatsaname 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    still asking myself where you get those prototypes

  • @_eesports
    @_eesports 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When are you going to do a Hackintosh video?

  • @skylerross8843
    @skylerross8843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man do I miss 17in MacBooks. I know the new one is 16in so it is nice to see they do still care about lager laptops

    • @mark03061956
      @mark03061956 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too bad the last of them were 2011s, with their self-destructing video subsystems. I had one, video failed, had that board re-flowed, worked for a little while and died again. Really nice machine, but 2011 Apple laptops were bad news across the line. RIP.

  • @Puma20
    @Puma20 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Random .. seeing Ken et al not using a grounding wire ... it seems that a grounding wire was once recommended or am I imagining that suggestion?

  • @spacexplorer_
    @spacexplorer_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's an unusual way to say “root” 7:18

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I miss 17' laptops, especially for desktop replacements, 15 inch is just a tad too small for that imo

    • @hikkamorii
      @hikkamorii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, there are still many gaming laptops like this, and they are for sure a desktop replacement

  • @mmllmmll22
    @mmllmmll22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd take it to Apple service, and tell that battery isn't holding as good as new :D

  • @andresbravo2003
    @andresbravo2003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The motherboard is red. Holy Dell.

  • @Maniac536
    @Maniac536 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could say he’s “craaaaaaazzzzzzyyyyyy”

  • @FlagsandHonor
    @FlagsandHonor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Almost seems like Apple usually uses red for prototypes, loin at Luke Miamis prototype video is told haven’t already.

  • @alexsstuff4
    @alexsstuff4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My old desktop has a purple pcb

  • @Mainyehc
    @Mainyehc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The surface treatment you refer to is sandblasting.

    • @ComputerClan
      @ComputerClan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      IIRC, you typically blast and THEN anodize, yeah?

  • @MrMegaPussyPlayer
    @MrMegaPussyPlayer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:04 And prototypes seems to become ever rarer. By the amount of boneheaded mistakes in macbooks in the last ~10 years (at least) they don't seem to do any prototype anymore.

  • @Kilgorio
    @Kilgorio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow

  • @growtopiajaw
    @growtopiajaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So does this mean that robots are testing Apple's butterfly keyboard?

  • @dholaholics
    @dholaholics 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting

  • @Crazy-Games
    @Crazy-Games 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the power on self test page it says the failure type was caused by External Cache
    Idk what the cache is for I never owned a Mac but I’m assuming it’s something to do with memory

  • @harrythecoolb3280
    @harrythecoolb3280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's next??

  • @maxcrusher9989
    @maxcrusher9989 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome!

  • @CasperDesign
    @CasperDesign 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:09 Made in Taiwan! 🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼

  • @starchild7843
    @starchild7843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I went to Walmart this morning and in the as seen on tv area there more more "artic air coolers there. One is a little pocket size artic air, another is one you put around your neck, and one that says ultra artic air. Seems they must be doing well in selling them to come up with these gems.
    Also I seen a 6 can mini fridge that holds 6 cans of whatever you like to drink as long as it's a regular 16 oz. Has coke cola brands a red, a grey one for diet, sprite, and also seen a Budweiser one too! They have both an AC and a car charger cord. They are 29.00 dollars. Does anyone know if these are any good would love to get one if they do keep your drinks cold? Love to have it in the car for traveling and maybe camping

  • @officialkamrui
    @officialkamrui 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could I invite you to review our MINI PC?

  • @hmidi
    @hmidi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just see this video now, but i diagree Apple Inc. remains a big WillyWonka Company for me :P

  • @karolmarzeckol3886
    @karolmarzeckol3886 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Little comments :(

  • @kpridezzang
    @kpridezzang 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how carzy are u?

  • @theNikNikovsky
    @theNikNikovsky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    17 minutes in and 800 views, nice job man.
    (for comparison, mine made like 2 views in an hour)

  • @ww21943
    @ww21943 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, say root again

  • @A_Noob-sp7zo
    @A_Noob-sp7zo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    New video!

  • @immameme
    @immameme 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    OhLookImma1st

  • @ryantehseen5205
    @ryantehseen5205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    only he can get this stuff

  • @harrythecoolb3280
    @harrythecoolb3280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1028th

  • @splitblix
    @splitblix 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eee early

  • @del-a9186
    @del-a9186 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol

  • @ya9zan307
    @ya9zan307 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5

  • @mickeyfilmer5551
    @mickeyfilmer5551 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought my New wife an ipod for her birthday in 2007 or 8, can't really remember, only for it to fail after 13 months- as I had paid a huge amount of British pesos for it, I was rather pissed off, and so have never bought another apple product ever since, and never will! they shot themselves in the foot with their greed and inbuilt redundancy so F**K Apple forever. (nowadays I could have repaired it thanks to Big Clive TH-cam Channel)

  • @dr.coolguy8750
    @dr.coolguy8750 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool, ill coment on my own comment on my own comment to see how good it was