@@tahrey I actually got in trouble with my mathematics teacher for exactly that. I wrote a set of reference tables in the back of my exercise books so that any sum I'd already done, I could simply look up, It was all indexed, entirely written by hand. She marked my work one day, and I'd used my last clear page, so she saw the reference tables in the back, and told me to stay behind after the next class. There, she informed me that was cheating. I told her "I've already done this sum, why on earth should I need to do it again?" I was studying engineering alongside that mathematics class, and very much had the attitude that doing the work multiple times was "a waste of time", something I also told her. Now, admittedly, this was after she had told us "you can't bring calculators into class", so I brought in a slide rule, because she said calculators, not "calculating devices". Every time she set a rule, I continued to find ways to work around it, and my reference tables were my last attempt at it, because it was during my final year at that school, in the run-up to final exams.
@@KidarWolf Hate it when they do that instead of rewarding ingenuity. You *literally* made a multiplication table, and by using it you'd end up memorising the patterns anyway and not need to use it as much any more. Just a way of learning that worked better for you.
For everyone out there who’s curious, Larrabee’s Point is just north of Fort Ticonderoga, and the lake there is about 20-25 feet deep. The lake elsewhere reaches 400 feet.
More New England Bridge shenanigans! Jersey’ll have PTSD after this and being put in the house track at speed! “We’ll get to that…” is the theme of this episode.
The Rutland and Central Vermont also had a trestle at Rouses Point and was used till 1964 with the Swing Span removed a few years after abandonment and as of now the bridge is nothing but a bunch of sticks poking out of the water. I am so happy to see the Rutland is getting more recognized by you guys living in the Rockies out west.
Don't feel bad on that one. I'd seen the Flaming Moe's episode of The Simpson's dozens of times and it took me seeing the episode over 20 years later before I suddenly had the double meaning of the title of the episode and the drink name hit so I'm pretty sure I still hold the slow on the uptake record.
Honestly, I love your 3/4 shows, Hyce - they're on my "always watch" list, because I love the format, and I love the wacky things I learn about railroad history. I've even got people who've never watched the show now answering "how did it go?" with "poorly" as a default answer because I do it so often.
Gotta say, I'm surprised there aren't as many people watching these! The 3/4 show is probably the best TH-cam gameshow I regularly watch and have been trying to get my parents to watch foe a while.
Of note: The Rutland was under Vermont Central control in the 1880's (which bankrupted the VC), so the New York Central took control. This was sometime near the turn of the century. Then the New Haven tried to gain control around 1902 or so, and the Vermont shareholders duked it out in a proxy fight and won control of the railroad, but that meant they finally had to run it themselves, which they did until 1963. That year, the Rutland was doing well, so the president decided that after two bankruptcies, he owed it to the shareholders to leave them with something of value. His way of doing that was to file for abandonment of the entire railroad. Today, the successor to the Rutland, Vermont Rail System, is buying up short lines in the northeast like they're going out of style.
Here to tell you that I love these videos, Mark! Finding the first ones on the channel was a delight and filled the TechDif-shape hole in my heart, and they've been great ever since. The kind of nerdy, niche content I could only wish for otherwise.
I got bluescreened of death just as Jersey said "HEY MARK PUT SOMETHING FUNNY RIGHT HEAR AGAIN" and as he said "Hey Mark" it gliched so hard like the clipp you put of Jersey.
as someone with marine engineer blood in my veins (from my dad who cooked the steak on the segwun that I mentioned in one of your cooking videos) I can only imagine that when the Tugboat and Vermont III rammed the drawboat that both of them had (at least) one crewman out on front flipping the bird to the bridge/boat/drawboat/thing. also, as to what happened to Vermont I and II? Honestly, if you would have been there the name on the side of the boat would have just read "Vermont" cause merchant companies of the time had this thing where they would internally call the boat (in this case) "Vermont III" to signify that this was their third boat to use the name "Vermont". So Vermont I and II likely were just older boats that had lived their lives and been sold off to the breakers/for scrap (provided they didn't sink, which is something that absolutely happens to freshwater vessels) lastly, it seems to defy reality to me that the three quarters show is somehow your least watched content, I know at least I personally enjoy it alot!
Alright Mark, nobody else may love the 3/4 Show, but it's one of my favorite parts of your channel. I always get excited when I see you posted a new episode, even though TH-cam's algorithm sucks and it never shows up in my sub feed. Yes I know, click the bell, but it's hard enough as it is to sleep during the day with a screaming baby, obnoxious dogs, and neighbors mowing the lawn to have TH-cam notifications enabled at all. Either way, please keep the 3/4 Show going. It always brightens up my day when I get home from a long night shift hauling fuel when I get to watch a new episode of railroad shenanigans packed with alleged limey goodness.
3/4 show is my guilty pleasure. it never fails to brighten even the darkest of days. yalls friendship dynamic really does capture the topgear esk "bunch of idiots just having the time of thier lives" charm.
Those dang civil engineers! Always trying to come up with crazy ways to move things from point A to point B! Usually involving bridge C and road D and retaining wall E...
For the sake of historical accuracy, the railroad's name was the "Central Vermont Railway." Not the Vermont Central. There is literally a preserved steam locomotive in Shelburne Vermont, CV 220, with that name on the tender.
I absolutely get a kick out of watching the 3/4 show! I also enjoy the rest of your content, Hyce. Your content keeps me out of a mental funk that I can never seem to rid myself of.
Speaking of one-off “mysteriously appeared” boxcars on railroads that had an Addison Branch… Apparently the Wellsville, Addison & Galeton, in the middle of the PA-NY border, repaired and ran a boxcar that they had paid the NKP for as a total wreck writeoff. Then at some point, presumably after someone started asking where this one different boxcar came from, it was renumbered. Again. And since it was a bone-stock PS-1 40-footer, there are LOADS of models of it. I even made one in 1:29th. Yep. If I had a nickel for each time a railroad acquired a boxcar with just a little insurance payoff…
I don’t care if these get views or not. They’re excellent. The perfect mix of goofiness, train nerd stuff, good stories, and enough inside jokes to make it perfect.
A couple of additional entertaining points that could be added here. First, what happened to the Central Vermont Railway's original drawboat? Well, in 1884, sixteen years after it was replaced by a swing bridge, there was a 4th of July celebration nearby that involved "blowing up a large boat 300 x 50 feet" with dynamite. And then a bit later there was a celebration that involved "re-blowing up of a wreck in the harbor, which was a failure July 4." Speculation based on the measurements is that this was perhaps the long-out-of-service drawboat. And then there was a *third* drawboat across the lake -- the Port Henry Drawboat. It was apparently constructed by local iron mining companies, and used for most of 1871. It was then closed for the winter, and in the spring they found that the ice had lifted all the piles on the associated trestle, forcing the railroad to be closed. That drawboat, like two of the three Rutland ones, still exists as a wreck on the lakefloor.
Ellis is so fantastically funny and a very solid storyteller! It'd be great if you could get him back on for this format, especially with the standard 3/4. Would also like to see Jersey do Two Of These People Are Lying, he seems very quick and creative.
Damn i was laughing my ass off at this. this was amazing. Thank you for making these. I rarely am on TH-cam desktp so im rarely able to comment or interact. But i heard your gripes about how few people watch these episodes, and i wanted to say thanks. I know im but one voice, but i want to say you genuinely make my day better and help foster my love of trains. These podcasty episodes are really fun to hear and its nice to see you having a good time and enjoying sharing funky train stories. thank you for all that you do.
Not blaming these guys, because they obviously filmed this first; but man alive. What poor timing it is to talk about bridge disasters on the US East Coast......... Also Ellis claims to be a civil engineer hence his love for bridges.....So that means if you love bridges you are a civil engineer? Does that mean since I love chasms that I must be an uncivil demolitionist? My goodness. Why hasn't this been made into a comedy trilogy yet?!?!?! This is like something that could be the next big comedy hit. Historical mishaps. Like I know we're all "sensitive" about that time period and all that, but when you have corporate and engineering hubris like this that gives us not just 1, but 3 barge, train bridge, boat, bridge, barge, bridge, train barge, boats; it NEEDS a film adaptation.
Funny you upload this the day I am on my first Amtrak. Amtrak, late as always! Also, we somehow made up time, but a man got arrested on our train. Hope to see you at National Train Day May 11th in Duluth! We are all praying for you to come visit at our museum.
not saying this cuz u said to im saying it cuz its genuine i love the 3/4 show i love the random knowledge and i love the stupid funny antics u guys talk about also we need more limes hyce u have singlehandedly managed to make me intrigued about everything train lol i want more random train learning even if its old news lmao drill the knowledge into this rock of a skull so i can be a smart cookie some day🤣🤣🤣
There's *so much* going on with this whole story, but I (as a sailing nerd more than a train nerd) am still hung up on how the HELL the schooner lost in the schooner-canal boat collision situation
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The stolen CN boxcar is Rutland 7999
^ and Accurail is one of the companies that produced a very accurate model of it
The Rutland didn't steal it, they just gave the GrAnD tRuNk an offer they couldn't refuse
There's a photo of that boxcar in color. It's a single sheathed boxcar right?
@@KatyPacific382 think so
Technically if they paid to replace it, it wasn’t stolen
This isnt Top Gear, this is Valve Gear.
LIMES! no wait, this one's actually good
What type?
Stevenson valve gear
One of those wonderful times where the spoof is better than the original.
this comment is beyond perfect. you've earned my respect 👌
*“Train on the water, boat on the track”*
Peter, the horse is here.
this is funnier than it should be because i just saw (and consequently stole) memes of literally that.
Train on the track on the boat on the water, oops, in the water, nevermind.
“Stop doing the math Brett you’ll get hurt”
"We Look up things in tables, that's why we're engineers" continues to be such a mood.
Pretty accurate job description, tbf
Someone else already did the work, why waste your time?
@@tahrey I actually got in trouble with my mathematics teacher for exactly that. I wrote a set of reference tables in the back of my exercise books so that any sum I'd already done, I could simply look up, It was all indexed, entirely written by hand. She marked my work one day, and I'd used my last clear page, so she saw the reference tables in the back, and told me to stay behind after the next class. There, she informed me that was cheating. I told her "I've already done this sum, why on earth should I need to do it again?" I was studying engineering alongside that mathematics class, and very much had the attitude that doing the work multiple times was "a waste of time", something I also told her. Now, admittedly, this was after she had told us "you can't bring calculators into class", so I brought in a slide rule, because she said calculators, not "calculating devices". Every time she set a rule, I continued to find ways to work around it, and my reference tables were my last attempt at it, because it was during my final year at that school, in the run-up to final exams.
@@KidarWolf Hate it when they do that instead of rewarding ingenuity. You *literally* made a multiplication table, and by using it you'd end up memorising the patterns anyway and not need to use it as much any more. Just a way of learning that worked better for you.
For everyone out there who’s curious, Larrabee’s Point is just north of Fort Ticonderoga, and the lake there is about 20-25 feet deep.
The lake elsewhere reaches 400 feet.
Is this where Hwy 47 & the ferry are now according to goggle maps?
This story gives the phrase „Captain on the bridge“ a whole new meaning
“Abandon Bridge!” Doesn’t have the same ring to it…
Today’s theme:
“Did (insert insane thing here) happen?
Ellis: “We’ll get to that.”
"You can't put a rail bridge across 300 feet of channel!"
"Didn't say shit about a _barge_ though! And there was the baridge..."
More New England Bridge shenanigans! Jersey’ll have PTSD after this and being put in the house track at speed! “We’ll get to that…” is the theme of this episode.
The Rutland and Central Vermont also had a trestle at Rouses Point and was used till 1964 with the Swing Span removed a few years after abandonment and as of now the bridge is nothing but a bunch of sticks poking out of the water. I am so happy to see the Rutland is getting more recognized by you guys living in the Rockies out west.
"shits fucked"
"oh well. its working now isnt it"
I just realized the intro is top gear but TRAIN.
Don't feel bad on that one. I'd seen the Flaming Moe's episode of The Simpson's dozens of times and it took me seeing the episode over 20 years later before I suddenly had the double meaning of the title of the episode and the drink name hit so I'm pretty sure I still hold the slow on the uptake record.
Instead of Top Gear we call it Notch Eight!
Welcome to the club, glad you're finally here!
@@garysprandel1817 What do you mean, double mea----------------- OH DEAR GOD WHAT
I love when Ellis leads. Bridge and Civil shenanigans are just so much fun!
youtube.com/@Admiral_Ellis?si=COoKQ0nLTkQTF-by
Livestreams every thursday!
Oh hi Myatt@@trainman05matthewb.65
-You are the worst bridge barge captian I have ever heard of
-"But you have heard of me!
Honestly, I love your 3/4 shows, Hyce - they're on my "always watch" list, because I love the format, and I love the wacky things I learn about railroad history. I've even got people who've never watched the show now answering "how did it go?" with "poorly" as a default answer because I do it so often.
Gotta say, I'm surprised there aren't as many people watching these! The 3/4 show is probably the best TH-cam gameshow I regularly watch and have been trying to get my parents to watch foe a while.
I should probably share them in another discord i'm in...
These episodes are comedy gold for sure.
Of note: The Rutland was under Vermont Central control in the 1880's (which bankrupted the VC), so the New York Central took control. This was sometime near the turn of the century. Then the New Haven tried to gain control around 1902 or so, and the Vermont shareholders duked it out in a proxy fight and won control of the railroad, but that meant they finally had to run it themselves, which they did until 1963. That year, the Rutland was doing well, so the president decided that after two bankruptcies, he owed it to the shareholders to leave them with something of value. His way of doing that was to file for abandonment of the entire railroad.
Today, the successor to the Rutland, Vermont Rail System, is buying up short lines in the northeast like they're going out of style.
That's neat! Thank you for the context man.
Here to tell you that I love these videos, Mark!
Finding the first ones on the channel was a delight and filled the TechDif-shape hole in my heart, and they've been great ever since. The kind of nerdy, niche content I could only wish for otherwise.
I got bluescreened of death just as Jersey said "HEY MARK PUT SOMETHING FUNNY RIGHT HEAR AGAIN" and as he said "Hey Mark" it gliched so hard like the clipp you put of Jersey.
Lmfao perfect timing
lmao that is hilarious
JAZZ HANDS!
JAZZ HANDS
"There's something wrong with New England"
Finally, someone said it, and it wasn't me, a New England local
"alright, alright, who let Marvin Heemeyer at the controlls" LMFAOOO
My favorite quote from the 3/4 Show so far! I doubt anything will top it (unless Jersey comes back for another episode, which I hope he does XD)
Please never stop these, they are amazing and a highlite whenever they come out
6 inches of confidence. Band name dibs
CHRIST ON A BIKE! These three-quarters shows are a HOOT!
BIRB SCEAMS INTENSIFY!!
I love the videos (especially the 3/4, 1/2, I don’t even know at this point) Hope everyone has a wonderful day!
as someone with marine engineer blood in my veins (from my dad who cooked the steak on the segwun that I mentioned in one of your cooking videos) I can only imagine that when the Tugboat and Vermont III rammed the drawboat that both of them had (at least) one crewman out on front flipping the bird to the bridge/boat/drawboat/thing.
also, as to what happened to Vermont I and II? Honestly, if you would have been there the name on the side of the boat would have just read "Vermont" cause merchant companies of the time had this thing where they would internally call the boat (in this case) "Vermont III" to signify that this was their third boat to use the name "Vermont". So Vermont I and II likely were just older boats that had lived their lives and been sold off to the breakers/for scrap (provided they didn't sink, which is something that absolutely happens to freshwater vessels)
lastly, it seems to defy reality to me that the three quarters show is somehow your least watched content, I know at least I personally enjoy it alot!
Thank you for the delightful insight, and kind words. :)
This was the era of steamships, so they could also have burned; that happened a lot too.
Alright Mark, nobody else may love the 3/4 Show, but it's one of my favorite parts of your channel. I always get excited when I see you posted a new episode, even though TH-cam's algorithm sucks and it never shows up in my sub feed. Yes I know, click the bell, but it's hard enough as it is to sleep during the day with a screaming baby, obnoxious dogs, and neighbors mowing the lawn to have TH-cam notifications enabled at all. Either way, please keep the 3/4 Show going. It always brightens up my day when I get home from a long night shift hauling fuel when I get to watch a new episode of railroad shenanigans packed with alleged limey goodness.
This series is what I'm look forward to the most.
The timing on this vid is honestly amazing considering the Titanic sank today
3/4 show is my guilty pleasure. it never fails to brighten even the darkest of days. yalls friendship dynamic really does capture the topgear esk "bunch of idiots just having the time of thier lives" charm.
These are some of my favorite videos on your channel Hyce. All of the 3/4 idiots shows are always a good laugh, and informative as well.
6:53 bro was waiting to lime someone lol
Love the three quarter show. Watch with my dad all the time.
how dare people not watch this masterpiece lol don't they know this is the most editing that hyce does on any of his vids lol.
Neither rain nor snow nor sleet nor hail could stop the mail, but the boat bridge sure as hell could
This is my favorite series of yours. Please keep em coming. They're all hilarious (and oddly informative)
Those dang civil engineers! Always trying to come up with crazy ways to move things from point A to point B! Usually involving bridge C and road D and retaining wall E...
For the sake of historical accuracy, the railroad's name was the "Central Vermont Railway." Not the Vermont Central. There is literally a preserved steam locomotive in Shelburne Vermont, CV 220, with that name on the tender.
I love 3/4 and especially citation needed, its amazing
I love the 3/4 show, the sheer amount of obsessed railfan power levels on display make me so happy. And it's educational!
When Jersey said “ How did it catch fire in the water?” Did anyone else think of 29:38 that “Always Sunny in Philadelphia “ hilarious episode? 😂
I absolutely get a kick out of watching the 3/4 show! I also enjoy the rest of your content, Hyce. Your content keeps me out of a mental funk that I can never seem to rid myself of.
Brett: The D&H did give us one thing in modern culture
Me: Buster from I Love Toy Trains
Take a shot everytime "We'll get to that" is said and see if you survive
Speaking of one-off “mysteriously appeared” boxcars on railroads that had an Addison Branch…
Apparently the Wellsville, Addison & Galeton, in the middle of the PA-NY border, repaired and ran a boxcar that they had paid the NKP for as a total wreck writeoff. Then at some point, presumably after someone started asking where this one different boxcar came from, it was renumbered. Again. And since it was a bone-stock PS-1 40-footer, there are LOADS of models of it. I even made one in 1:29th.
Yep. If I had a nickel for each time a railroad acquired a boxcar with just a little insurance payoff…
I don’t care if these get views or not. They’re excellent. The perfect mix of goofiness, train nerd stuff, good stories, and enough inside jokes to make it perfect.
A couple of additional entertaining points that could be added here. First, what happened to the Central Vermont Railway's original drawboat? Well, in 1884, sixteen years after it was replaced by a swing bridge, there was a 4th of July celebration nearby that involved "blowing up a large boat 300 x 50 feet" with dynamite. And then a bit later there was a celebration that involved "re-blowing up of a wreck in the harbor, which was a failure July 4." Speculation based on the measurements is that this was perhaps the long-out-of-service drawboat.
And then there was a *third* drawboat across the lake -- the Port Henry Drawboat. It was apparently constructed by local iron mining companies, and used for most of 1871. It was then closed for the winter, and in the spring they found that the ice had lifted all the piles on the associated trestle, forcing the railroad to be closed. That drawboat, like two of the three Rutland ones, still exists as a wreck on the lakefloor.
I love the art in the thumbnail
The Milwaukee Rd had something very similar to cross the Mississippi at Winona MN, again because they weren't allowed to "block" the channel.
That one has a Trainz model and I intend to use it.
Ellis is so fantastically funny and a very solid storyteller! It'd be great if you could get him back on for this format, especially with the standard 3/4. Would also like to see Jersey do Two Of These People Are Lying, he seems very quick and creative.
This is my favorite series on the channel.
Drinking game: take a shot every time Ellis says "we'll get to that"
Top Gear Entry too amazing. Cant wait to see all the stars in a reasonably priced pullman car and Cheap Choo Choo Challenges
"we'll get to that!" Is the Hyce equivalent to "but wait! There's more!"
I can't tell you how many times I had to pause this to catch up on laughing. These are always such excellent content, never stop please
ANOTHER BANGER!
Damn i was laughing my ass off at this. this was amazing. Thank you for making these. I rarely am on TH-cam desktp so im rarely able to comment or interact. But i heard your gripes about how few people watch these episodes, and i wanted to say thanks. I know im but one voice, but i want to say you genuinely make my day better and help foster my love of trains. These podcasty episodes are really fun to hear and its nice to see you having a good time and enjoying sharing funky train stories. thank you for all that you do.
10/10 chaos as prescribed by all proper railroading history.
Another gem, I love this series! Great job to all!
The D&H is why there are two rf16 sharknoses left
I always look forward to these! Love the comedy and the educational aspect. Also cuz this gorup is soo much like the TechDiff crew. I love it!
I deeply enjoy these. I love the wacky old railroad nonsense.
16:12 “somebody lime this man”
I knew we vermonters were a "creative" sort for Jerry rigged farm fixes but good lord what a debacle for "hey this should work fine"
I love the 3/4 show and how I learn about railroad stories
Wow, these bridges had a “sinking” feeling
Hyce I love the 3/4 show. I always look forward to it. PLEASE DON’T STOP MAKING THEM!!!! Plz
Watching this one AS A MARITIME NERD was even more of a rollercoaster than usual!
Not blaming these guys, because they obviously filmed this first; but man alive. What poor timing it is to talk about bridge disasters on the US East Coast.........
Also Ellis claims to be a civil engineer hence his love for bridges.....So that means if you love bridges you are a civil engineer? Does that mean since I love chasms that I must be an uncivil demolitionist?
My goodness. Why hasn't this been made into a comedy trilogy yet?!?!?! This is like something that could be the next big comedy hit. Historical mishaps. Like I know we're all "sensitive" about that time period and all that, but when you have corporate and engineering hubris like this that gives us not just 1, but 3 barge, train bridge, boat, bridge, barge, bridge, train barge, boats; it NEEDS a film adaptation.
The 3/4 Show is always great, Hyce!
“Stop doing the math it’s going to hurt” - hyce
3/4 show is the best stuff on the channel!
This is what happens when Civil engineers try and do math when the sum of all forces doesn’t equal zero.
Funny you upload this the day I am on my first Amtrak. Amtrak, late as always! Also, we somehow made up time, but a man got arrested on our train. Hope to see you at National Train Day May 11th in Duluth! We are all praying for you to come visit at our museum.
The guy that operates the bridge at a bar: oh my boat,well it’s called the bridge
this series is underrated.
Why do I continue to imagine K-27s as the engines in this story. This is the Grande.
i love the rutland so much. this railroad is so normal
😅 entertaining gents! Ya made me Google map Rouses point just to find the bridge. The pilings are still there.
For Lake Champlain
Ave Depth - 64ft
Max Depth - 400ft
This is like one of my fav series
3/4 Show is my favourite content that you produce.
These episodes spark joy
14:55 I can't believe Brett didn't get a lime for that! (But it was very clever.)
Oh god. The YTPs are seeping into the source material!
I just noticed that Jerseys name throughout this video is “Jersj”
Honestly I love these videos the most.
3:15 the stroke intensifies
Never heard of a draw boat before! These are great fun, those who don't watch are missing out.
Wait some dude living along the lake watching this being like oh you mean my 301ft canoe with train track on thats just a fishing boat now
This is one of my favorite series
not saying this cuz u said to im saying it cuz its genuine
i love the 3/4 show i love the random knowledge and i love the stupid funny antics u guys talk about also we need more limes
hyce u have singlehandedly managed to make me intrigued about everything train lol
i want more random train learning even if its old news lmao drill the knowledge into this rock of a skull so i can be a smart cookie some day🤣🤣🤣
Yes, restore the sunken engines.
Excuse me hyce I am a somebody who definitely did not binge watch 3/4 of an idiot when I found your channel and continue to look forward to them.
Thank you :)
It still kinda surprising how much jersey looks like Phillip Seymore Hoffman in twister.
6:53 what’s wrong with the D&H locomotives? They had pretty Challengers even if they looked slightly cartoonish.
The railroads did a lot of inventive things maybe not the smartest or safest things but definitely inventive
There's *so much* going on with this whole story, but I (as a sailing nerd more than a train nerd) am still hung up on how the HELL the schooner lost in the schooner-canal boat collision situation
These always make my day, keep up the good work!