clearly we all know what this means we need a special episode of K-37 Kitchen where you make some beans in honor of those cold, cold men and the most amazing meal they'd ever had
I could just imagine a kid waiting at the platform at the Museum after 491 pulled up during Polar Express and said "Mommy its cold out, can we get warm now!?" and 491 thinking "You complain about just being cold... try being cold AND covered up to your spark arrestor in snow!"
491 and 20 are literally two separate causes of two entire railroads to go out and look for them, but at least Peaches was the sweetheart she is and didn't need the bigger brass to come and rescue her
The first issue of TRAINS magazine had a WHOLE focus on the San Juan extension (would have been 1968 or 69) whan I was 9, and the stranding of 491 wasa a featured article by John Norwood, who went in on snoeshoes with food to try and give relief to the engine crew stranded with 491. The part I LOVED in the article was how they pulled 491 out of the drift with 2 other engines, hitting the work train casusing the cook, who was mid food prep sending hiw SLIDING the length of the cook car on a huge slab oh pork that had been in the pot of beans he was cooking.
Seriously been considering the same for my kitchen. It's smaller than a narrow gauge brake van, and space is at a premium, so being able to use a pegboard as a hanging solution is just the most optimum solution I can come up with, unless I can detect the beams in the ceiling and hang things from the ceiling on a rack I can lower to be able to reach it.
Hey hey! Lol thanks for the shout out! That lime to this day was not human, I can testify it was definitely a mystery citrus! Such a good time! Thanks for letting me hang out with y'all !
Even out here in Oregon at our mere 4,400ft elevation on the SVRy, we still get some pretty bad winters. Back before 19 went in for its 1472 day inspection, there was a day where the crew brought her out for running and there wasn't even so little as a flake of snow on the ground. By the time the trains were set to run, the snow was 2 feet deep and the drivers were half buried. We don't typically have winters that extreme out here, but when they get bad they get *bad.*
I heard a story about a time when a couple of guys working for the Pickering Lumber Company went fishing on their day off and walked through one of the abandoned logging camps. For some context, this camp had been left abandoned in the forest for several years by this point, and it doesn't generally take too long for the forest to begin reclaiming its territory. One guy said to see if the old ground-return phone still worked. Sure enough, he called the office at Standard and someone picked up! This was back in the early 60's, IIRC.
John Norwood is the man that all Railroad management should aspire to be like. This is one hell of a story to start Season 4 off of! I would also like to say, if this is what you guys had to do down in New Mexico, I shutter to think of what Canadian National and Canadian Pacifc had to put up with.
This was absolutely hillarious! Reminds me of a sort of similar story that took place here in Germany back in 2019: It took place on a part of the narrow gauge network in the "Harz" mountain range, which is operated by the "Harzer Schmalspurbahnen" (HSB for short). The buisiest and most famous part of the network is the line to the top of a mountain called "Brocken". At 1142 meters above sea level, this is the highest peak in the region an in all of northern Germany. The climate up there is comparable to that of Iceland! The summit station of the railway is only about 15 to 20 meters lower than the peak of the mountain. Now, january 2019. It had been snowing quite a lot in the region. On the "Brocken", the weather turned into a fully fletched snowstorm on that particular day. Despite that, trains were still running, but not for long. One train got stuck at the summit station. They weren't even able to run the loco around their train. The wind slowly started to bury the train in snow. They tried to rescue the train with another loco but could only take the back half of the train with them. They also took with them the 50 passengers and the train crew, who had been waiting for several hours by that point. The front half of the train, including the loco, had to be left behind. But this incident was of course far less severe than 491's. The loco and it's coaches only stayed there for I think about a day before they dug 'em out. Most of which had to be done by hand, obviously, an excavator can only do so much... The media did cover this entire story and there is a news report about it. Unfortunately, it's in german and there are no subtitles or translations, but the footage speaks for itself! The icy front of the loco in the still raging winds right at the beginning is only a little bit creepy...😅 Here is the link to that news report: th-cam.com/video/66k-dwbObco/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CUA_mEfIdyvJ08iD Sorry for the long comment. I thought, this would be a nice fitting story😅
Having read the article this was based on (thanks for posting it in the discord) the wildest part of the story not told here was how the crews were resupplied in the weeks of digging out the railroad. Helicopters were not readily available, more storms had blocked the tracks, so they sent a plane with a bombardier to literally bomb-drop supplies to the crews. Multiple times. In the crazy mountain wind conditions that happen up there. Railroading in the snow both sucks and generates insanity. Just saying.
Gotta love how with the big B&M bridge of doom, we had images and a map, this go around we have a map of an existing stretch of railroadisms now turned tourist railroadisms
I worked a Ro-Ro yard offloading cars. Fell under NS. Our yard super wasn't afraid to come de-chock the cars or set ramps in -20 wind chill out in Saint Louis. Proud to say there are still real bosses out there.
Hyce, I'm not sure if this topic has been covered before or if it would lend itself to a 3/4 topic, but I recently learned of something called the Erie gauge war, and I found it pretty funny
If someone ever tries to be a smart alek at the CRM and deride preserving 'outdated technology', please break out in full recital about how many resources the Denver & Rio Grande expended to rescue 491. This was great. I vaguely recall be told this story early in life but never knew the extent of the hijinks that went down that winter upon the Cumbres line.
I like limes! Straight up, quartered, sucking the juice off the rind with my teeth. I hope y'all have looked at the photos and stories in "Rails that Climb," which is a Colorado Railroad Museum publication. An important prop for my Rollins Pass tour I conducted before the pine beetle and massive trophy property development struck the area.
Snow is not so bad.(only on lines over mountains) When the ÖBB had their old electric freight locos (1020 I think) the switchmen just send one of them onto a section of tracks that was snowed in (when the loco was coming downhill) and told the driver not to brake. So they sometimes managed to clear rails covered in 1.5m high snow (55 inches) sometimes more.
Hyce, Looks like you guys were having fun! It’s good to have friends to TOTALLY enjoy life. Liked the (6-chime was it?) to clean of the language) in the dialogue! :-D What a freaking story! My 1st thought was, did they drain the 491? Railroading nightmare! Like your closing music, steel guitar? (I am not a musician but love music!) Cheers, Randy Musselman Wyoming, DE
491 stuck in snow? Oh dear. Okay. WHAT SP engine blew several staybolts and noone noticed? Would it be fair to call the trainmaster 'Master Chief' ? His name IS, coincidentally, John. (His full name is John Norwood.) (Also, DEAR GOD, this guy I ought to be my role model!) HOLY SH*T I just realised, this is partially happening at around the same time Train 101 the 'City of San Francisco' got stuck on Yuba Pass (January 13th, 1952) dang, I did NOT think they'd call in an airstrike with food bombs on the narrow gauge but they DID
I’ll be honest, given the choice between 20 and 491’s snow mishaps, i would choose 20’s because yeah you are stranded for several days but at least your locomotive is not LITERALLY BURIED AND A SKARLOEY ICICLE!!!
Oh boy, another snow-related tale; you *know* its going to be good, the only question, how many locomotives are going to be stuck in snow all at once this time?
Hello Hyce, This is Balrog of Moria Inc., me and the goblins decided to visit the museum on Wednesday. The reason I am contacting you is that the goblins decided to leave a Pyle of sh!te for you on car 5442. I only found out when going through the pictures they had taken at the museum. I would like to apologize on their behalf. In all seriousness it was fun to visit the museum. I work on audio electronics for a living and when I saw a Pyle sitting in 5442 it made me chuckle because every one I have had to work on has been a steaming pyle of crude.
4 plow trains all looking for 1 engine that is now a “Skarloey Popsicle” and one plow train is stuck and another is stuck and in the dirt/snow… sounds very much like the RGS incident.
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clearly we all know what this means
we need a special episode of K-37 Kitchen where you make some beans in honor of those cold, cold men and the most amazing meal they'd ever had
At least y’all weren’t at the museum so 491 couldn’t hear you retell her freezing experience
Which honestly was probably a good thing she’d probably be pretty cranky next time the fire it up
491: "I do NOT want to talk about this. It sucked coal dust."
“A chilling tale”
And somewhere RGS twenty is laughing@@ColtonRMagby
I actually thoroughly enjoyed the episodes in the shops
I could just imagine a kid waiting at the platform at the Museum after 491 pulled up during Polar Express and said "Mommy its cold out, can we get warm now!?" and 491 thinking "You complain about just being cold... try being cold AND covered up to your spark arrestor in snow!"
491 and 20 are literally two separate causes of two entire railroads to go out and look for them, but at least Peaches was the sweetheart she is and didn't need the bigger brass to come and rescue her
To be fair, if the TGS were sent to look for 491 that would have been a VERY BAD DAY
@@sudriansignalman9387 hah, more like the RGS would be sent because of the crimes they committed on the smaller K's
Adding the maps was really useful for those of us who aren't Rio Grande nerds. Makes the story a lot easier to follow.
45:00 considering the locality, would those injuries be… Osier violations?
We absolutely need a sequel episode about the rotaries now
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Limes and yes we need to know about the rotories.
🍋🍋🍋🍋🍋🍋🍋
M y s t e r y C i t r u s !
The first issue of TRAINS magazine had a WHOLE focus on the San Juan extension (would have been 1968 or 69) whan I was 9, and the stranding of 491 wasa a featured article by John Norwood, who went in on snoeshoes with food to try and give relief to the engine crew stranded with 491. The part I LOVED in the article was how they pulled 491 out of the drift with 2 other engines, hitting the work train casusing the cook, who was mid food prep sending hiw SLIDING the length of the cook car on a huge slab oh pork that had been in the pot of beans he was cooking.
You know Brett said something “bad” when CONDUCTORS don’t get to hear it
I was very confused when the censor went off
Someone has got to be able to lip read decipher that
IL decipher it, time stamp please can't find it after watching the video lol
22:55
@@whisper9539 all i got is “why wouldn’t somebody just …” something something. Not sure what he said after that
watched the uncensored episode but I'll just say to anyone watching & reading the comments this one's a wild experience.
Using pegboard to hang things in a kitchen is the MOST engineer type shit I’ve ever seen lmao
Seriously been considering the same for my kitchen. It's smaller than a narrow gauge brake van, and space is at a premium, so being able to use a pegboard as a hanging solution is just the most optimum solution I can come up with, unless I can detect the beams in the ceiling and hang things from the ceiling on a rack I can lower to be able to reach it.
Me too
How did I never notice that
491 would most likely say if she could talk, "Let ME tell the story Mark!"
Oh this is gonna be a good one!
Edit: as I was watching this, the snow started pouring down, I think it’s a sign
Literally every time I watch this, it snows. It’s definitely a sign
20 get stuck in the snow and 491 laughs, then 491 gets buried and 20 hears about it and is rolling on the floor laughing her eyes out with tears
Hey hey! Lol thanks for the shout out! That lime to this day was not human, I can testify it was definitely a mystery citrus! Such a good time! Thanks for letting me hang out with y'all !
I'm glad Leighton's back. I missed his jokes.
36:24-36:40, 491 needs to have a fireside chat with Skarloey. They can both have something in common to complain about.
Even out here in Oregon at our mere 4,400ft elevation on the SVRy, we still get some pretty bad winters. Back before 19 went in for its 1472 day inspection, there was a day where the crew brought her out for running and there wasn't even so little as a flake of snow on the ground. By the time the trains were set to run, the snow was 2 feet deep and the drivers were half buried.
We don't typically have winters that extreme out here, but when they get bad they get *bad.*
That was absolutely hilarious! 😂😅😂😅
The real hero of the story, of course, is John, who trecked about 11 miles to rescue the crew of 491.
A 3/4 episode in the kitchen of the Birb cage.
Hyce now you have to make beans in the 91
I heard a story about a time when a couple of guys working for the Pickering Lumber Company went fishing on their day off and walked through one of the abandoned logging camps. For some context, this camp had been left abandoned in the forest for several years by this point, and it doesn't generally take too long for the forest to begin reclaiming its territory. One guy said to see if the old ground-return phone still worked. Sure enough, he called the office at Standard and someone picked up! This was back in the early 60's, IIRC.
Oh jeez, what a nightmare that had to be for all involved in that storm. Not just the railroad folks, but the locals too.
These episodes always make me smile, happy to see folks enjoying the history, and shenanigans lol
John Norwood is the man that all Railroad management should aspire to be like. This is one hell of a story to start Season 4 off of! I would also like to say, if this is what you guys had to do down in New Mexico, I shutter to think of what Canadian National and Canadian Pacifc had to put up with.
Why can I imagine the section houses being the beacons from lord of the rings.
Sublette calls for aid!
Then Alamosa shall answer!
Where was Alamosa when Oiser fell.
This was absolutely hillarious!
Reminds me of a sort of similar story that took place here in Germany back in 2019:
It took place on a part of the narrow gauge network in the "Harz" mountain range, which is operated by the "Harzer Schmalspurbahnen" (HSB for short). The buisiest and most famous part of the network is the line to the top of a mountain called "Brocken". At 1142 meters above sea level, this is the highest peak in the region an in all of northern Germany. The climate up there is comparable to that of Iceland!
The summit station of the railway is only about 15 to 20 meters lower than the peak of the mountain.
Now, january 2019.
It had been snowing quite a lot in the region. On the "Brocken", the weather turned into a fully fletched snowstorm on that particular day. Despite that, trains were still running, but not for long. One train got stuck at the summit station. They weren't even able to run the loco around their train. The wind slowly started to bury the train in snow. They tried to rescue the train with another loco but could only take the back half of the train with them.
They also took with them the 50 passengers and the train crew, who had been waiting for several hours by that point.
The front half of the train, including the loco, had to be left behind.
But this incident was of course far less severe than 491's. The loco and it's coaches only stayed there for I think about a day before they dug 'em out. Most of which had to be done by hand, obviously, an excavator can only do so much...
The media did cover this entire story and there is a news report about it. Unfortunately, it's in german and there are no subtitles or translations, but the footage speaks for itself! The icy front of the loco in the still raging winds right at the beginning is only a little bit creepy...😅
Here is the link to that news report:
th-cam.com/video/66k-dwbObco/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CUA_mEfIdyvJ08iD
Sorry for the long comment. I thought, this would be a nice fitting story😅
Having read the article this was based on (thanks for posting it in the discord) the wildest part of the story not told here was how the crews were resupplied in the weeks of digging out the railroad. Helicopters were not readily available, more storms had blocked the tracks, so they sent a plane with a bombardier to literally bomb-drop supplies to the crews. Multiple times. In the crazy mountain wind conditions that happen up there.
Railroading in the snow both sucks and generates insanity. Just saying.
Listening to this while driving a double header K27 freight train in RRO, this be the life 🤣
Gotta love how with the big B&M bridge of doom, we had images and a map, this go around we have a map of an existing stretch of railroadisms now turned tourist railroadisms
45:01 Mr. Joel Bubbles Sounthern Pacific Man, OSHA was established in the early 1970s. This story predates its founding by a full twenty years.
I worked a Ro-Ro yard offloading cars. Fell under NS. Our yard super wasn't afraid to come de-chock the cars or set ramps in -20 wind chill out in Saint Louis. Proud to say there are still real bosses out there.
Watching this (again) while at work, and when 12:08 - 12:30 played, I chuckled and said out loud, to nobody, "Heh, 'cold call' "
It happened where remote goes on vacation. Love the ¾ sense of humor
As another SP fan and next to Donner Pass, I 100 percent agree with Joel on this one.
John is the main character of Rio Grande is
*Denver & Rio Grande Western*
Sooo railroads in a nutshell is:
"We got a problem.."
"Then throw trains at it till it's no longer a problem then!"
Excellent retelling events from times past on the D&RG!
For a while it was like that line from Futurama: "I'm sending in more trains!"
Hyce, I'm not sure if this topic has been covered before or if it would lend itself to a 3/4 topic, but I recently learned of something called the Erie gauge war, and I found it pretty funny
Now THIS could be a movie.
Sounds like standard goings-on in Century of Steam
yes season 4 and leighton is back
1:57 I'm just looking at the tool board you have nailed up in the background. I shoulda thought of that.
Oh my goodness, I LOVE the return of physical, sober, blood thirsty limes. Can’t wait for more episodes!
These episodes will never cease to be hilarious. Cheers from Philly
what a coincidence, I was just binge watching this show last night.
Great time folks! Thank you!
Here’s the Train Club Version “ of “That 70’s Show “ hahaha I love it 👍🏻
The Rio Grande typeface you’ve used for some recent videos looks fantastic! Where did you find it?
If someone ever tries to be a smart alek at the CRM and deride preserving 'outdated technology', please break out in full recital about how many resources the Denver & Rio Grande expended to rescue 491. This was great. I vaguely recall be told this story early in life but never knew the extent of the hijinks that went down that winter upon the Cumbres line.
That theme music is always an instant serotonin boost for me.
With all the crazy narrow gauge stories, it seems like it would make a good movie or tv drama
What a neat story, thanks for telling it!
491s chilling experience
Why do you guys know so much about this stuff? It's crazy! And wonderful! Very fun story as always, great job!
Love the air quotes. Brett second time. Still funny,let us know when merch is open again. Thanks as all. Yes.
So happy to see more 3/4 Show.
THEY’RE BACK!
I like limes! Straight up, quartered, sucking the juice off the rind with my teeth.
I hope y'all have looked at the photos and stories in "Rails that Climb," which is a Colorado Railroad Museum publication. An important prop for my Rollins Pass tour I conducted before the pine beetle and massive trophy property development struck the area.
I remember when you mentioned this story back in the episode were 20 got stuck.
Thank´s for this masterpiece!
hyce its offical brett is your right hands man
Train master: Part of the train, part of the crew. Like on the Dutchman
What a story! I'm going to riding the C&TS in couple of weeks
the Chilean Transadine also went over 10,000ft altitude and also had to deal with deep snow every year, over 20ft in some places
It was fun following the story with google maps.
3/4 show perfect time for food and some watching! love ya hycey your amazing and love these!
Snow is not so bad.(only on lines over mountains) When the ÖBB had their old electric freight locos (1020 I think) the switchmen just send one of them onto a section of tracks that was snowed in (when the loco was coming downhill) and told the driver not to brake. So they sometimes managed to clear rails covered in 1.5m high snow (55 inches) sometimes more.
Hooray!!!! 3/4 show!!!! Fantastic time!
Love how the top gear parody intro
Hyce,
Looks like you guys were having fun! It’s good to have friends to TOTALLY enjoy life.
Liked the (6-chime was it?) to clean of the language) in the dialogue! :-D
What a freaking story! My 1st thought was, did they drain the 491? Railroading nightmare!
Like your closing music, steel guitar? (I am not a musician but love music!)
Cheers,
Randy Musselman
Wyoming, DE
This is my podcast now
Hyce, you know what you have to do. Next episode of k37 kitchen, you need to replicate that meal. 4 paragraphs should be enough to figure it out.
I’ve got one thing to say about 491. She was probably cold tired and pissed at the railroad for not getting her out sooner.
491 stuck in snow? Oh dear.
Okay. WHAT SP engine blew several staybolts and noone noticed?
Would it be fair to call the trainmaster 'Master Chief' ? His name IS, coincidentally, John. (His full name is John Norwood.)
(Also, DEAR GOD, this guy I ought to be my role model!)
HOLY SH*T I just realised, this is partially happening at around the same time Train 101 the 'City of San Francisco' got stuck on Yuba Pass (January 13th, 1952)
dang, I did NOT think they'd call in an airstrike with food bombs on the narrow gauge but they DID
somebody needs to animate these stories and i bet they would look awsome
"I can still feel the icicles"
I'm laughing so hard. Word of advice to anyone watching. Don't watch if you're eating as you'll be laughing so much.
Woohoo! Limes! I love this show!
I’ll be honest, given the choice between 20 and 491’s snow mishaps, i would choose 20’s because yeah you are stranded for several days but at least your locomotive is not LITERALLY BURIED AND A SKARLOEY ICICLE!!!
Thanks to you 3 idiots. I've begun playing this game with my family😂
Oh boy, another snow-related tale; you *know* its going to be good, the only question, how many locomotives are going to be stuck in snow all at once this time?
Excellent video
491: Pfft stupid snow it's just silly soft stuff.
This one part of the video: 20:35 lol
We NEED the rest of the details on what the heck happened to the rotaries
When ever I go to the museum I am going to lime Leighton for the chili joke.
Hello Hyce, This is Balrog of Moria Inc., me and the goblins decided to visit the museum on Wednesday. The reason I am contacting you is that the goblins decided to leave a Pyle of sh!te for you on car 5442. I only found out when going through the pictures they had taken at the museum. I would like to apologize on their behalf.
In all seriousness it was fun to visit the museum. I work on audio electronics for a living and when I saw a Pyle sitting in 5442 it made me chuckle because every one I have had to work on has been a steaming pyle of crude.
This was amazing
Welp, thats a form of camping I hadn't considered before.
Yes the 3/4 show is back! 🎉🤟🔥
Love the random Pirates of the Caribbean reference. lol
Can't wait for this story to be relived by me in C of S
Is their a possible link to the article about this? Would love to read it.
4 plow trains all looking for 1 engine that is now a “Skarloey Popsicle” and one plow train is stuck and another is stuck and in the dirt/snow… sounds very much like the RGS incident.
love some good citation needed episodes
I get a kick out of watching these 'Citation Needed' episodes, as the laughter always brings me out of a funk.
Bubbles needs a pair of coke bottle glasses and a kitty
I tipped a McCallan glass of bourbon to this. Cheers gents!
I love that intro!
Ah yes the famous quote
“ welcome to my ADHD dumpster fire known as my house”