The New 2022 Nissan Frontier Is a New Truck That Feels Old

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  • @legobin7963
    @legobin7963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1262

    Doug is the kind of guy who wiggles his fingers, and says "don't mind if I do" upon seeing an open box of donuts.

    • @Stravinsky75
      @Stravinsky75 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      That's Andy Reid.....

    • @MCTogs
      @MCTogs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Drake activity

    • @fty-ys4ni
      @fty-ys4ni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@MCTogs Doug and Drake are the same person. You’ve never seen them in the same place😳

    • @joelspaulding5964
      @joelspaulding5964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Perhaps the best non-car characterization of Doug...ever.

    • @ultrastar2084
      @ultrastar2084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think this comment is funny, but I have nothing to add so I'm just gonna say LMAO

  • @gpaje
    @gpaje 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1605

    I think the more old-school aspect of this truck will attract certain truck buyers that still enjoy that. Interesting that it's using a similar styled front door "cut-in" similar to the F150 for better visibility.

    • @sekcgamer7623
      @sekcgamer7623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kia/Hyundai design team

    • @JustaShrimp372
      @JustaShrimp372 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      wow you attracted some bots lol

    • @Bdub1952
      @Bdub1952 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@JustaShrimp372 the bots are getting desperate these days.

    • @gpaje
      @gpaje 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@JustaShrimp372 Lol, happens anytime you make a comment on Doug's vid, they know it gets lots of traction. I always reports them ASAP.

    • @HKFIJIHK
      @HKFIJIHK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I agree. But there’s need to be a difference between old school modern analog vs cheap and lazy from Nissan.

  • @damilolaakanni
    @damilolaakanni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +838

    FYI: the "new" frontier actually sits on a modified version of the old frontier's frame. I guess if it isn't broken, don't fix it. The engine and transmission are carry overs from the 2020 frontier on which they debuted. The steering wheel is from the Titan, not the pathfinder.

    • @weirdshibainu
      @weirdshibainu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Lazy on Nissan's part

    • @Fir-jp3jt
      @Fir-jp3jt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" is the laziest saying of all time though. We wouldn't have any newer tech in anything if nobody "fixed it".

    • @afcgeo882
      @afcgeo882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      To be fair, the frame’s changes are tiny and few. It’s almost completely identical to the prior gen.

    • @snakerb
      @snakerb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      @@Fir-jp3jt sometimes that’s a good idea though. Look what happened when they tried “fixing” hard buttons and knobs by replacing them with touch screens.

    • @Usef320
      @Usef320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@Fir-jp3jt say that the next time you're fighting for your life in a menu trying to figure out how to turn your ac on 🤣

  • @scottibugatti7122
    @scottibugatti7122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +331

    As a truck guy, I approve of the old school tech in this. It’s rugged and practical. A lot of new trucks seem like I’m driving a minivan or a sedan…

    • @stuartschultz8823
      @stuartschultz8823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I can’t tell you how much I like the old fashioned foot ebrake

    • @bradly2056
      @bradly2056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As a person viewing this video, I approve of the design

    • @drn13355
      @drn13355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "a lot"? Which "new trucks" have you driven that seem like a mini van? All the trucks are body on frame except the Ridgeline. Can you give us some examples?

    • @sunshinelolipops1
      @sunshinelolipops1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@drn13355 He's right. A lot of new trucks feel like driving a minivan. Take the F-150 Platinum. It even has a V6 like a minivan. Granted its twin turbo but it still feels and sounds like a minivan engine. It even rides and handles like a minivan. The upper trims of the Ram are a similar story. They feel really isolated from the road, boring to drive and loaded full of leather and screens. The new Tundra might as well be a Highlander. Even the Silverado has gotten really cushy, dull, and GMC Acadia-feeling.

    • @JCintheBCC
      @JCintheBCC ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sunshinelolipops1 "Take the F-150 Platinum. It even has a V6 like a minivan." Isn't this Nissan a V6? It's a naturally aspirated V6, no less. Just like a minivan? Are you complaining that new trucks don't shake and rattle with enough driveline shudder and suspension bounce? I'm confused what the problem is with new trucks.

  • @Evan_5.7
    @Evan_5.7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    As someone who owned a 2007 Nissan Frontier se 4x4, I have used and abused this truck with almost 200,000 miles. It’s such a great truck and I’m honestly considering a brand new one soon because of this! Truly great trucks compared to the competitors

  • @MooreZach
    @MooreZach 2 ปีที่แล้ว +451

    For how terribly outdated the dashboard looks, I like the fact they incorporated a hard button to dim the main screen. So helpful when driving late at night rather than having to find it somewhere within the settings

    • @roddydykes7053
      @roddydykes7053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah my 2011 Audi A5 has that. Kinda nice, be nice to turn it off altogether though at night

    • @weirdshibainu
      @weirdshibainu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      SAAB had it decades ago. It's a great feature. The ambient lighting on some of the new cars looks like a low budget casino

    • @Firebolt1729
      @Firebolt1729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Physical buttons are better than touch screens

    • @kaisarahmed6424
      @kaisarahmed6424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Physical button are the smartest comparing multiple touches for a command through touch screen.

    • @slowspecv69
      @slowspecv69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I like it. Looks like a truck. But still is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay less chunky looking then the Tacoma interior. It’s the perfect balance of square truck that’s still rounded enough.

  • @greysonkerksieck2083
    @greysonkerksieck2083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    2:45, honestly I like the old style shifter, the new ones they have on cars are just weird looking and work differently from car to car

    • @nuthinnobody3357
      @nuthinnobody3357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They should just stop and use buttons on the dash or something. All these electric razor shifters do is take up space, look silly and are fundamentally unnecessary.

    • @ckm-mkc
      @ckm-mkc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nuthinnobody3357 Maybe it's a mechanical shifter and it needs to be there.....

  • @GMfwdSpence
    @GMfwdSpence 2 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    The old school feel is exactly what I love about these. I worked at Nissan during the development of these and I instantly fell in love the first time I drove one. Its not the most technolgically advanced or sophisticated but in a world of high tech appliance cars, I find this so refreshing.

    • @ayebing
      @ayebing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I agree. I’m currently on my third tacoma , but this is the first truck I’d seriously consider buying over a Toyota and that’s a big deal. I think sometimes Doug looks for racehorses in cars designed to be packmules if that makes sense. This truck is designed exactly right for the person that will buy them.

    • @BenTroxell
      @BenTroxell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Eh, the 2023 Ranger is going to shit on this thing.

    • @CortMarshal
      @CortMarshal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Why don't you just keep your old truck then?

    • @ThatOneDudeNick
      @ThatOneDudeNick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Agreed. They updated it just as much as it needed. I just want a simple truck with modern safety features. It's funny when reviewers complain about something not _looking_ or _feeling_ new just for the sake of being new.

    • @AHungryHunky
      @AHungryHunky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ThatOneDudeNick and consumers complain it doesn't vastly outperform the current model (that they are still paying off, but fully intend on just rolling that debt along to get) by several hundred pounds of payload, towing and 50 horsepower. Then they take to online and complain "Ford your new ranger is the size of my old F-150! I just wanted better Towing and Payload!" As if the strength and weight of steel and the laws of physics just changed because a callander ticked over and a new vehicle launched.

  • @LouLope
    @LouLope 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Not everyone wants a Smartphone to drive around.

  • @negil
    @negil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    I agree with Doug, I definitely think this is the best looking of the modern midsized trucks. There's one on a road I drive fairly regularly and I always find myself glancing at it as I drive by.

  • @ejohnson3131
    @ejohnson3131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Doug mocking, hating and nagging about this TRUCK is the best ad for the new Nissan Frontier! I want a truck to feel like a truck. Love the combination of old-school, tried and true features. $80 grand for a truck with air suspension and all the bells and whistles that I’ll never use and I’d be too afraid to take off road seems like a waste to me.

    • @DamageLink
      @DamageLink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is equal price to a new tacoma though. It just doesn't compare.

    • @povertyspec9651
      @povertyspec9651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@yungboicontigo9278 Frontiers don't have CVT's. I own a 2015 Xterra Pro-4X with 90,000 miles (SUV version of the Frontier). Drives like new, zero rattles, and have had only two small warranty issues since I bought it new seven years ago. It's been all over the country, through blizzards and 115 degree Las Vegas summers in the Mojave Desert.

    • @matios83
      @matios83 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yungboicontigo9278 still I took time to read it and I understand you Doug. Scotty is like the style of guy to believe the earth is still flat. You at least your making quality video and invest time in it.

    • @Saud-mt4wi
      @Saud-mt4wi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yungboicontigo9278 sheesh you really hate Nissan, did you have a bad experience with Your Nissan? Just curious.

  • @joseph2149
    @joseph2149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +378

    I love the transmission shifter. It works well, no need to change it.

    • @rickjohnson2859
      @rickjohnson2859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Exactly, the mechanical gear selector is more intuitive than the electronic gear selector and more reliable.

    • @hiljicardrawings3467
      @hiljicardrawings3467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      fr my colorado has that too even tho it’s a 2018 and i absolutely love it

    • @Brandon-to9vp
      @Brandon-to9vp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And the hydraulic steering is sooo good 👍👍

    • @theKevronHarris
      @theKevronHarris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Dizzy Gear same here. My mom had test drove two 2021 Nissan Rogue SV models on new years eve, both of them had the electronic gear selector.

    • @System777
      @System777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Dizzy Gear you DO know all these electronic shifters have a little cap you can pop off and manually move the shifter to N for exactly that reason, don’t you?

  • @ErelasInglor
    @ErelasInglor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    For all its outdated and new features, they did get one area right. They didn't upgrade the touch screen area into a massive glass panel with no physical buttons, proven to be both distracting for drivers and a safety hazard when pure touch screen. Props for that, it is, after all suppose to be a practical pickup.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Toyota managed to get a gigantic screen into the new Tundra without getting rid of the climate control knobs

    • @jg5001
      @jg5001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@mrvwbug4423 the Frontier is not Tundra sized, tho. Tundra matches the size of the F150, Silverado, Ram and Titan, so a larger screen wouldn't hurt a big cabin too much.

    • @MaddJakd
      @MaddJakd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jg5001 200% certain the point was about there being physical buttons, class aside

    • @bobjohn2000
      @bobjohn2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I really like that they didn't try to stuff it with useless gadgets to justify jacking up the price. It is a somewhat simple and reliable truck.

    • @jesusbarrera6916
      @jesusbarrera6916 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaddJakd the physical buttons are still tied to software which is the big issue

  • @bryanvaughn9982
    @bryanvaughn9982 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought a 2022 Frontier exactly because of the reasons Doug said. It does feel old school. It feels like a truck, And thats exactly why I love it,

  • @hankhill5622
    @hankhill5622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    This is my dream truck, I have an older frontier and I absolutely love it. I love the rugged body on frame style. To me it’s the way a truck should feel. Reminds me of the old Toyota and Nissan trucks from the early 90s, small but sturdy and well built

    • @brad4527
      @brad4527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      loved my 1993 Hardbody!

    • @justanotherghost4589
      @justanotherghost4589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't even have a license or a real need for a truck anytime soon (although I'd definitely try camping in one) this would be my go to, I've always liked retro trucks like the hardbody, I'd definitely do a single or extended cab retro build, like the hardbody build that Nissan showed off, the single cab on some tri-spokes and other retro stuff would be awesome! Plus this isn't too over the top like other trucks, it still looks sorta boxy and reasonable, I love the styling and simplicity.

    • @martincruz3907
      @martincruz3907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ready to upgrade your now 20 plus year old ford pickup Hank? I tell you hwat

    • @hankhill5622
      @hankhill5622 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@martincruz3907 yep, I found that Nissans are just more reliable than the ole ranger I tell ya hwat. I can get to them propane emergencies much faster

  • @MrMan-ry2gn
    @MrMan-ry2gn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Doug is the type of guy to break into a car to steal it's owner's manual.

  • @lordwalker71
    @lordwalker71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    I’ve actually been seeing quite a few of these on the road. Doug once again forgetting that not everyone is 6’4 so the vast majority of people will have plenty of leg room on the back seat.

    • @donmoore7785
      @donmoore7785 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Some of us are 6' 4" though...

    • @PringleSn1ffer
      @PringleSn1ffer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Doug mentions his height like every 90 seconds, I doubt he forgot it.

    • @awsomemodels
      @awsomemodels 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right , i am only 5'5 ☹

    • @fty-ys4ni
      @fty-ys4ni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It’s okay short Kings. We haven’t forgot about you, we just don’t care.

    • @mattbrew11
      @mattbrew11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My 5’10 brother is cramped in the new truck backseat

  • @nicolem.792
    @nicolem.792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Will he notice the Porsche that appears at 18:06? YES…at 18:16. He doesn’t miss a beat in his conversation while micro scanning it like a terminator. True car guy!

  • @ryanwilsonbackup
    @ryanwilsonbackup 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This is officially my new favorite smaller truck. Seems like the perfect blend of new and old school! The price is a bit much, but that’s the way the market is right now.

  • @theHAL9000
    @theHAL9000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Old School is this case might be a good thing. Bought my 07 Frontier new in part due to what struck me as a simple no-nonsense inside and outside design. Turned out to be a good choice and the V6 just keeps humming along. Fourteen years of normal maintenance, couple of sensors replaced, and just last week the airbag light came on. Otherwise the interior looks great as does the exterior after all this time, and start-ups are instant, and it simply does it's job.

    • @byfedericojimenez
      @byfedericojimenez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep. Nissan knew what people love about it and decided to just modernize it without changing it. They made a good old truck for people who wanted a truck.

  • @Notorious40z
    @Notorious40z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +259

    If “It ain’t much but it’s honest work” was a truck basically. There’s a lot of old school guys who like the simplicity and old roots the new Frontier provides , I’m a Toyota guy but honestly this thing provides enough for it to do what it was built to do… just a plain ol body on frame truck.

    • @gniawd
      @gniawd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But it sucks for tall guys of course.

    • @gamatoutsikos
      @gamatoutsikos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would still take the Ridgeline over this or Tacoma.

    • @H.E.PennyPackr
      @H.E.PennyPackr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gamatoutsikos Interesting. Mind explaining why? I'm actually looking at all of them as we speak. Right now I'm leaning Tacoma.

    • @gamatoutsikos
      @gamatoutsikos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@H.E.PennyPackr can't speak for yourself. you might actually fit a Tacoma better on your needs. But I believe as a rule of thumb, most trucks are over specced for the majority of drivers. There is an insane number of people out there that don't need an F-150 but still decide to get one. They don't go off road, they dont tow up to 12,000 lbs (as advertised). Heck most of them don't tow period. But they are stuck with the big uncomfortable to drive truck in the city, spending a ton more on gas. I used to tow a little utility trailer with my Hyundai Elantra for years. Ridgeline covers my needs fully. It has the biggest cabin in its class and it drives the nicest on its class. I had the Tacoma when I was 23 and it was the best thing ever. But I could never imagine using now that I am 34 to transport my kids or go to work. Ridgeline fits my 2 kids with car seats perfectly. The bed is way more usable than all other trucks and the in bed trunk is gift from God. Especially if you are in construction and you have muddy equipment. Wash it off open the tap and let it drain. Best choice ever. Test drove f150s and didn't like the way they drive in town. Nice on the highway.

    • @TwinsAndAPitBull
      @TwinsAndAPitBull 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@gamatoutsikos That’s an honest assessment of the truck market. Part of me wishes the Ridgeline was a little more capable (I tow 5k pounds regularly with my Grand Cherokee) but that would probably take away from what it’s best at and that’s light duty transportation with the occasional truck stuff rather than the other way around. That being said, when I do finally get a truck, I’m probably getting a 2500hd for work and trading the Grand Cherokee in for the new Honda Passport Trailsport.

  • @cutcreator12b
    @cutcreator12b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +285

    I traded my 2011 Frontier for this one, and man, let me tell you, this thing is leaps and bounds better than the older model. So much quieter, and the suspension is way better. As a short guy, the 2 inches higher bed sucks. haha! I can't reach things very well, anymore. Also, the turning radius is much improved! The old one was like turning around in a WW2 battleship. I like the noise of the engine. Yes, I want that! I want to feel like I'm in a truck. The start button is in a weird place, and you have to get used to it, but mine also has remote start, which is a huge plus here in the PA winters.

    • @Haryel1987
      @Haryel1987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Micro p man over here

    • @gbaca57
      @gbaca57 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Good to hear the turning radius has improved

    • @boardofstories9109
      @boardofstories9109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just curious how much did you trade your 11 in for? I bought a 15 a couple years ago and it currently has 35k miles. I love it so much but man do I love the new frontier a little more

    • @cutcreator12b
      @cutcreator12b 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boardofstories9109 I got 8 or 9k. 135k miles, sv, king cab, manual ... with hail damage

    • @boardofstories9109
      @boardofstories9109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@cutcreator12b Wow thats pretty good actually. Might just do that eventually and get the 2022 =)

  • @itsentirelypossible
    @itsentirelypossible 2 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    Been spending my lunch breaks watching Doug since 2017. Thanks, Doug!

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      @pesadafara1639 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @aaronlisitza2324
      @aaronlisitza2324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too! I won't take my first bite on Tuesdays or Thursdays unless I've got Doug on.

  • @lukekuykendall6366
    @lukekuykendall6366 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been actively researching getting a truck for years, and just recently bought the Frontier Pro-4X which is my first ever pickup truck. I really wanted a Tacoma, but the sacrifices to match the price point of the fully loaded Pro-4X for a Tacoma made no sense to me. A fully loaded TRD-Pro Tacoma, is north of $70k, for a MID-SIZED PICKUP! Nothing the Tacoma offers warrants a $28-32k price increase over the Frontier. Everything Doug says is 100% valid, and as an owner, I can confirm all of it, and are there features or certain aspects I wish were "better", absolutely. But at $43k and change, I'm 1,000% happy with my purchase.

  • @Gunsforfreedom
    @Gunsforfreedom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've owned a 2001 and a 2003 Frontier, all purchased brand new. In February I picked up my new 2022 SV 4x4. I love it. It rides really nice and has enough tech to keep me happy.

  • @kylebruna142
    @kylebruna142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +287

    18:25 you're exactly right Doug. Im so tired of swoopy crossovers and previously off-road cars going the way of the family like the Pathfinder. All those old school truck features and feeling make this more enticing to someone like me who sees a truck as a means to an end not the end in itself.

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      Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
      Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
      They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
      💗❤️💌💘

    • @Rroff2
      @Rroff2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What happened to the Pathfinder is a travesty.

    • @SS-wm1wy
      @SS-wm1wy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. But all off road worthy, luxury, or sports cars do not perform as well until manufacturers throw a ton of gloss black plastic and remove hard buttons. I am sick of this trend but no end in sight.

    • @channell11
      @channell11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I blame it on bean-counters looking at stats. Over 80% of car-buying decisions are influenced by women. What do many (not all) women want in a car? Comfort, practicality, easy to drive, easy to park, capability, etc. That translates into those swoopy crossovers and family mobiles.

    • @isaac4273
      @isaac4273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@channell11 wait, are you serious? Well then no fucking wonder we're getting crossover after crossover 🤦 dang it

  • @paulie-Gualtieri.
    @paulie-Gualtieri. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +253

    Doug is the kind of guy who still has sleepovers.

    • @MOJump23
      @MOJump23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/jMyRvfwJYV4/w-d-xo.html

    • @weirdshibainu
      @weirdshibainu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Whether his neighbors want him over or not...

    • @Sparkee415
      @Sparkee415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      With ur wife probably

    • @Firebolt1729
      @Firebolt1729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It's been quite a while since I have seen "Doug the type of guy..." jokes

    • @kevinbooe4123
      @kevinbooe4123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pauline I think you wish you had friends as a child

  • @PaNativ
    @PaNativ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    The Tacoma, and the Nissan are body on frame, which make them much “tougher” than the car based Maverick and Santa Cruz, hence the ride quality. The Rivian and Hunmer ride on battery packed underpinnings that also cause it to ride more “car like”.
    In the end, in choosing a truck for heavy duty workloads, I would choose on built body on frame, despite the ride quality.

    • @RevengeofGothzilla
      @RevengeofGothzilla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Ride quality has nothing to do with wether or not a vehicle is body on frame, until 1992 Rolls Royces were body on frame. Its all about suspension. Suspension that can handle more weight (payload) doesn't compress as easily leading to a harsher ride.

    • @CortMarshal
      @CortMarshal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      You're not buying a frontier for "heavy duty workloads"

    • @rashodm7129
      @rashodm7129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lmfaoooo nobody needing heavy duty loads is buying a Nissan

    • @cardestroyer3177
      @cardestroyer3177 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want a nissan for heavy duty loads, just get a nissan titan ngl

    • @DashVandle
      @DashVandle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Maverick and Santa Cruz aren’t midsized trucks either, so that is a weird comparison. Granted the Santa Cruz at least costs similar but the Maverick is way cheaper.

  • @kennak476
    @kennak476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ive owned a ‘21 Tacoma SR5 and I traded it in on the new Frontier and wasn’t disappointed at all, the Frontier rides and handles better, it also has a rear sway bar which helps with the handling. The Nissan will walk away from the Tacoma for sure and out tow it as well! As part of the Convenience package the Frontier came with remote start which isn’t even available on the Tacoma. The heated steering wheel and seats are a must in northern states. If you’re contemplating buying a Tacoma be sure to test drive the Nissan as well!

    • @milesruby3271
      @milesruby3271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How does it compare to the Tacoma in terms of reliability and longevity? Im torn between the 2, I want the Frontier but I trust the Tacomas to get me 200k+

  • @trevorharley4475
    @trevorharley4475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Doug nailed it. I traded my 19 sr 2wd 4 cylinder tacoma for a 22 pro4x. I love the added tech and the look. I also love the fact its a truck. It has the creature comforts I enjoy but I also feel like I'm driving an acrual truck because, well... I like trucks.

  • @sethallison5682
    @sethallison5682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    We have one of the older Frontiers for work, it’s a 2014. I’m a contractor for the forest service so we beat the dog sh*t out of our vehicles. The Tacoma is kinda the gold standard for us. However I have to admit, that Nissan thing is *extremely* capable off road. Even with stock suspension and mediocre tires.

    • @redlinearroyo847
      @redlinearroyo847 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Those frontiers are pretty well set up for offroad in what I've felt. The clearances and angles are just good enough. The sv had some fat tires and small rims which allowed for decent traction with cheap all terrains. And the truck itself had some decent traction control, I could only imagine with a pro 4x and softer suspension and a bit more clearance. It was the first year of 2nd Gen frontier so basically the same thing with uglier rims. Those weird 4 spoke rim things. Not sure if it was the factory rims but it was some ugly Nissan rims

    • @Joel_Junior_cantor
      @Joel_Junior_cantor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@redlinearroyo847 the frontier in Brazil is famous as a jack of all trades, its not the absolute best at anything, but its good at everything

    • @mikehub6664
      @mikehub6664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Joel_Junior_cantor well said, it pretty much do any. Not the best at anything but it still does it where other trucks won’t.

    • @smartttart
      @smartttart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@redlinearroyo847 The Tacoma and Frontier are fairly similar in every aspect. The only difference in performance is from the factory suspension options. A factory Tacoma does just a bit better off road thanks to the nicer suspension components.

    • @stuartschultz8823
      @stuartschultz8823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’m using my 2022 as primary transportation and carrying tools and whatever for real estate purposes. I went to look at a foreclosure and I misjudged the driveway and went into the drain hole. I thought I totaled it. I was at a 90 degree angle in the ditch. I put it in 4 wheel low and backed out of the ditch. Not even a scratch underneath had Firestone check under the truck no issues. I saw some clumps of dirt and grass. And 25 mpg mixed!

  • @Southwestchickensalad
    @Southwestchickensalad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    With the new Frontier pretty much out, I really hope they think about bringing back the Xterra, using the existing components from this truck. Just basically converting this truck into SUV form.

    • @tz444
      @tz444 ปีที่แล้ว

      Been hoping for an Xterra for a log time. Loved that SUV more than any one I have owned.

  • @michaelwelschmidt9338
    @michaelwelschmidt9338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    The “old school” mechanical controls were used because they have tested reliability for remote world use where there isn’t a dealership repair center in every town. Any shade tree mechanic can fix the shifter linkage, but won’t have to because it won’t break. The drive by wire shifter in the Pathfinder needs a more complex ECM and probably more chips that are unobtanium.

    • @mikehub6664
      @mikehub6664 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yungboicontigo9278 Toyota of a few years ago they were great, but since 2018 is been non stop, crank bearings(pretty much any truck running 0w20 oil spec), axle splines shearing off under high load, electric/wiring harness defects and cheap plastic clips holding most of the body work. Its no second gen or 4runner unfortunately. Those vehicles are best in class and superior to the current gen taco.

    • @mikehub6664
      @mikehub6664 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yungboicontigo9278 he’s definitely got his own biases, however he did admit the titan and titan based mid-size suvs and trucks (xterra, Pathfinder, Frontier) we’re great reliable trucks.

    • @mikehub6664
      @mikehub6664 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yungboicontigo9278 depends where you’re at. Its all tacos, f150s, and v6 Colorados in UT. Idk about the titan either but its chassis for all of Nissan full and mid-size trucks/suv. All parts Literally Bolt on to any of them. Except the Y62 Patrol/Armada. Thats its own beast that holds up the land cruisers and other military and diplomat transports.

  • @nicksmith8166
    @nicksmith8166 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think the simplicity and “oldness” of the Frontier is a feature. Not a drawback.

  • @povertyspec9651
    @povertyspec9651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Love this updated Frontier. I own a 2015 Xterra Pro-4X with 90,000 miles (SUV version of the Frontier of which 2015 was the final year). Drives like new, zero rattles, and have had only two small warranty issues since I bought it new seven years ago. It's been all over the country, through blizzards and 115 degree Las Vegas summers in the Mojave Desert.

    • @jg5001
      @jg5001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I really wish Nissan could bring back the Xterra. I miss my truckster and it too got me everywhere around the country, including Moab.

    • @byfedericojimenez
      @byfedericojimenez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I adored my Xterra. It was a great truck.

    • @slowspecv69
      @slowspecv69 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never get rid of it bud especially if a new one never comes out. Final year is a gem

  • @thefomento1337
    @thefomento1337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    love how the feeling of this truck likely isn’t much different from the old one. i own a 2010 2.5 4 cylinder. has NOTHING more than base besides an auto transmission and ac. roll up windows, manual locks, rwd, no traction control, just abs. it’s rough, loud, slow, and a lot of fun. dead beat reliable tho

    • @jamesm568
      @jamesm568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I went from a 2019 to a 2022 Frontier as they feel nothing alike. Both don't turn worth a dayum though.

    • @lastname2352
      @lastname2352 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think original crew was best before dumb interior change. Doors much nicer without protruding plastic pieces d22 best

  • @pope9349
    @pope9349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    A rock solid reliable daily driver truck,just like the tacoma.Hope they keep making them for more years to come.

    • @KB-bh9hp
      @KB-bh9hp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the ranger.

    • @Playingwithproxies
      @Playingwithproxies 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like a copy of the Tacoma as well

    • @A_Wild_Yeengirl
      @A_Wild_Yeengirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Better than the taco, I can say this from copious experience.

    • @pope9349
      @pope9349 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@A_Wild_Yeengirl they are both very reliable.You cant go wrong with a n/a v6 in a small size pick-up truck.

    • @A_Wild_Yeengirl
      @A_Wild_Yeengirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pope9349 Yeah but Frontier is:
      Newer
      More powerful
      More capable
      Better designed

  • @NorthPaddle
    @NorthPaddle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Toyota did the Prerunner Tacoma that was the same as the Pro X. Guys who want to look cool, but never leave the pavement.
    I own a Toyota and have driven them exclusively for 35 years. I test drove a '22 Frontier, and I can admit, it's quieter, and more comfortable than my Toyota. It has hydraulic steering that I like a lot because it gives better road feel.

  • @deerkiller2723
    @deerkiller2723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No joke the emergency reverse breaking really does work. I work at a Nissan dealership and when these things first released we had them stored away until it was release day. I was backing out a forest green sv and when I was half way out a van pulled up behind us asking to take a look at them without thinking how close he pulled up, the reverse breaking saved me from having to replace the tail end of a new frontier. 10/10 greatful.

  • @billydee6103
    @billydee6103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I love the steering wheel I have to say. The turn signal and windshield wiper stalks, I say if they’re not broken don’t fix em. However, I’m kind of stunned how bad the rear view camera is here. My car is a 2007 infiniti, was built about 16 years ago, and the rear view camera is perfect. It’s very clear and the guidelines for the rear wheels are spot on.

    • @Nash_Nismo
      @Nash_Nismo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I have never understood why he complains about old wiper stalks…who cares? If they work, they work. Why make a brand new part that’s adding cost to the new vehicle? New for the sake of new is part of why our consumer society has so many problems.

    • @moist_ointment
      @moist_ointment 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nash_Nismo "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" = "don't improve"

    • @backbayfred5409
      @backbayfred5409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@moist_ointment I'm guessing that you don't work on cars or trucks. The more vehicles that use the same parts makes replacement parts easier to find and keeps the cost down. Why design a unique part just for the sake of having a new part?

    • @moist_ointment
      @moist_ointment 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@backbayfred5409 parts sharing is good. Parts sharing an old, cheaply made part when Nissan has a better, new stalk in their parts bin is the bad part

  • @anthonyharipersaud6862
    @anthonyharipersaud6862 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Also to be fair with Nissan they were on the verge of going bankrupt so for them to pull out new cars (especially the Z) is pretty impressive. I’m not saying using old parts is okay but they were in a bad place

    • @isaac4273
      @isaac4273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Gladly they've cut ties with the French so hopefully Nissan gets back on track, I don't see them going back to their Nissan/Datsun quality levels... But man, that would be the coolest thing ever

    • @anthonyharipersaud6862
      @anthonyharipersaud6862 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@isaac4273 I sure hope they do I’m rooting for them! They need to cut ties with the cvt. No matter how much they improve people just simply have a bad rep of them you know? Modern day 9 speeds do almost better than cvts for fuel Econ so there’s no point. Keep cvts in smaller cars like the versa and Sentra. Just imagine the maxima with a real auto/manual

    • @TheTurbineEngineer
      @TheTurbineEngineer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The new Z looks fantastic. They absolutely nailed it.

    • @anthonyharipersaud6862
      @anthonyharipersaud6862 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheTurbineEngineer agreed.

    • @ZPositive
      @ZPositive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't see the recovery. I see too little too late.

  • @koredade1
    @koredade1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Love your videos Doug, you make good points about some nice to have features like a telescoping steering, but I think Nissan has done a great job of introducing new features and technologies that are very convenient and also safety conscious while still keeping this truck relatively affordable compared to a fully loaded and cramped Tacoma or a full size truck which are running in the $60k or above now.

    • @davontepowell775
      @davontepowell775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yungboicontigo9278 the R35 GTR isn’t a very profitable car they have their volume sellers to be more concerned with right now if anything we’re lucky it still exists at this point

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No telescoping steering on a model year 2022 vehicle is a deal breaker, just reeks of cheap. ALL of its competitors have it.

  • @Packerfan-qc6cs
    @Packerfan-qc6cs ปีที่แล้ว

    I purchased a 2023 Frontier and I love it. Have almost 5k on it, purchase end of July. Ride is nice, gas mileage is way better than my Tacoma was. I did not want a turbo, and appreciate the analog tac and speedometer. Everything just works.

  • @percussion44
    @percussion44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dash console pretty similar to outgoing gen, which I owned in 2016. Was involved in a winter rollover accident truck write off. Got a cut on my knee right where Doug was showing the tight area. I managed to get a door open and crawl out, but not crippled and not a ghost. I looked it up and sure enough the Frontier had excellent rollover protection rating. If I had been in a Ford product this comment would be coming from the afterlife.

  • @tylervene9393
    @tylervene9393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Cool Truck... but it's $45k. Have we lost our minds! I get they wanna remove extra frills and maintain that hardened rugged feel and that's great, but it should be reflected in the price. Idk when this whole trend of the new average vehicle being $40k+ started, but it needs to end. If people think this is worth the price, we gotta talk lol!

    • @Playingwithproxies
      @Playingwithproxies 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      28k for the base model yes it cost a lot when you add the top trim level and the leather seats. But that’s what the market goes for. I don’t really think they need to sell them at that price they probably look at the Tacoma and say we will give you 30 more hp for that price.

  • @ThatOneDudeNick
    @ThatOneDudeNick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I dig it. I don't need a bunch of fancy stuff. But there's no excuse for not having a telescoping steering wheel. My 11 year old Altima had a telescoping wheel. It'd be nice if it had better cameras but I just need to know something is there. Regarding the looks of the Pro-4X, I'm glad they didn't do anything corny like a fake hood vent or camo pattern plastic...

    • @clutch7366
      @clutch7366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was test driving frontiers a few years ago but I couldn’t get over the cramped cabin. Like Doug, my knee was IN the dash because that dumb steering wheel didn’t telescope. I ended up stepping up to a Titan and it was sooo much more comfortable to drive. Can’t believe they made the same mistake again regarding the steering wheels. They’ll definitely lose sales over it.

  • @robertopolanko6707
    @robertopolanko6707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the fact that a work truck is not overcrowded with screens and touch buttons, relatively I’m not too old but I I like the fact this truck still offering analogue options.

  • @Mako2-1
    @Mako2-1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is easily the best mid-sized truck on the market today. Everything you need in the modern day without any of the hyper expensive/unreliable bs. Truly the last of its kind.

  • @gregmyrland2515
    @gregmyrland2515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I test drove a 2022 SV with leather and upgraded stereo. It was as quiet driving as a Ridgeline at speed which most reviewers note. The Engine was a little noisy still but the ride was much better than my 2009 Frontier. Mine has 150K now and still not a single rattle which testifies to the durability as you noted. The 2022 huge hood obstructs the forward view a bit.

  • @pel6586
    @pel6586 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I like how it’s still kinda a old school truck , less things to break and hey if it works then why change it ? Leave it alone just like the tundra , it was a more old school truck but extremely reliable and everything works so why change it ? I like this frontier 👍🏻

    • @milosilic23
      @milosilic23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I agree with you. This is supposed to be a work horse. A trusty truck that has enough comfort for everyday but will not brake every other day

    • @RoySpray
      @RoySpray 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@milosilic23 You want to make sure it brakes every single day.

  • @MrCarGuy
    @MrCarGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Why ever change the traditional gear selector that always worked flawlessly? It's a truck.

    • @damilolaakanni
      @damilolaakanni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GM is a major culprit here. They ditched the column shifter in the 2022 Silverado and replaced it with an electronic shifter. I'm not sure if a lot of people complained about the column shifter.

    • @MrCarGuy
      @MrCarGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@damilolaakanni They didn't. Column shifters are almost perfect ergonomically, even in the finger-operated variant Tesla uses (amazing considering the rest of their interiors are ergonomic nightmares)

    • @billy_barry
      @billy_barry ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's because everyone wants that "Futuristic" style

  • @A_Wild_Yeengirl
    @A_Wild_Yeengirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Having driven this vehicle, it is absolutely lovely.

  • @TheSH1N1GAM1
    @TheSH1N1GAM1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    The fact that the steering wheel doesn’t telescope is a deal breaker for me. Unbelievable. Not all of the ‘out of date’ aspects of this truck are a bad thing though.

    • @obeseperson
      @obeseperson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      the fuck would you NEED a telescoping steering wheel for

    • @cameronharvey4746
      @cameronharvey4746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@obeseperson Doug explains exactly why in this video. Adjusting the steering wheel is arguably more important than adjusting the seats for some people.

    • @LanguagesWithAndrew
      @LanguagesWithAndrew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm 6'1" so I suspect I'll be borderline too tall for this truck and the only way to find out if that's the case will be to drive it.

    • @SRJason747
      @SRJason747 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LanguagesWithAndrew I’m 6’1” and I fit perfectly fine in it. I have long arms and long legs.

    • @gabrieldetwiler7078
      @gabrieldetwiler7078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SRJason747 I'm 6'5 and have long arms and legs as well and I felt absolutely cramped inside of it at the Cleveland Auto Show

  • @LSNAXT
    @LSNAXT 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I see the bouncy suspension as a plus been driving this exact model for almost 2 years and have had no problems with it.

  • @tylerfitzgerald266
    @tylerfitzgerald266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Pro-X model is probably more for the Baja style truck people Doug. I have a 2wd Ranger Sport with a torsion suspension up front (Xl&XLT came with coils) and that's the go to for that style of truck. Some people also want the look of having 4wd but not have to pay 5k more for a transfer case they will use 2 times a year

    • @cs1992
      @cs1992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True. It's as if he's never heard of the Toyota Tacoma Prerunner...probably one of the most popular trucks ever built.🤪

  • @sidthesquid5486
    @sidthesquid5486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    This thing looks really good from the outside.

    • @justat1149
      @justat1149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I definitely agree. It took them long enough to do it, but they did an great job on the redesigned exterior. Is it enough to get me out of my pre-facelift 2nd Gen Colorado? Nope. 🤣🤣
      But I applaud the effort Nissan’s been putting into revamping their lineup

    • @Firebolt1729
      @Firebolt1729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fricking bots everywhere

    • @MOJump23
      @MOJump23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/jMyRvfwJYV4/w-d-xo.html

    • @surveyor1515
      @surveyor1515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      how does it look good if it still has the Nissan badge..?

    • @reymustanggt4082
      @reymustanggt4082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dealers near me want to $40-50k for this truck!!!! THAT'S CRAZY!!! HELLO MAVERICK!!!

  • @MrTeddybrukshut
    @MrTeddybrukshut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Doug is the lunch break king 👑

    • @michaelelliott3559
      @michaelelliott3559 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      facts. have a good lunch break my guy

    • @MOJump23
      @MOJump23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/jMyRvfwJYV4/w-d-xo.html

    • @BeniBstoke
      @BeniBstoke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      100% true

    • @hughmangus2324
      @hughmangus2324 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doug is the type of guy who makes sandwiches without pickles or mayo

  • @ryanm2011
    @ryanm2011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You've highlighted why I bought my 2010 Pro-4x. It's nothing fancy but it's tough, reliable and inexpensive (at the time). It's like the 80s/90s Toyota trucks I had.. except it's more capable, more comfortable, has twice the power, better fuel economy and no rust. Nissan is underrated when it comes to trucks!

  • @kentadamson6992
    @kentadamson6992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im kinda tired of the whining about its old, or complaining about its ride. Its a truck not a sports car. If you want luxury get luxury vehicle. I recently bought this truck because I wanted 4wheel drive for bad winters and a bed for occasional hauling. I used this truck all winter and the 4 wheel drive system on this truck is a beast. I looked at the tacoma, ranger and canyon and maverick. I liked the frontier best out of all of them.

  • @hunteratkins3717
    @hunteratkins3717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m suddenly noticing, I don’t think I’ve seen Doug in anything other than shorts, and tee shirts. Doug out here being iconic🙌 love you man!

    • @Dsmpunk59
      @Dsmpunk59 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Doug probably had suit shorts on during his wedding

  • @christophermagner9216
    @christophermagner9216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I was looking for a new mid size truck and set a budget of $40k. I went and test drove a frontier, ranger, Tacoma and Colorado all around the same price point and the frontier was by far the best option at that price. It rides and drives better than all the others and has way more features for the price. Also the interior quality is way better.
    Comparing the ride quality to two crossovers with beds and two trucks that are over $100k seems pointless. Of course the $40k truck was more harsh to drive.

    • @Bolek989
      @Bolek989 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tacoma was t better?

    • @christophermagner9216
      @christophermagner9216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Bolek989 I bought a frontier proX. The Tacoma was nice, it was the one I wanted before I drove the frontier. The Tacoma driving position is more like a crossover than a truck and the infotainment is pretty bad.

    • @bipbop3121
      @bipbop3121 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Especially, an off road package version.

    • @xfiringsquadx
      @xfiringsquadx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What model frontier did you end up getting with your 40k budget? My budget will be the same and I'm hoping it's enough to have a crew cab with 4wd after tt&l.

    • @christophermagner9216
      @christophermagner9216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@xfiringsquadx I got a proX in Baja storm with tech and convenience packages. I didn't need 4wd, the most off-road I'll go is dirt roads. You will definitely be able to get what you are looking for, honestly you could probably get a pro4x with no extra packages for that price or a damn near load 4x4 SV.

  • @icomefromcanadia2783
    @icomefromcanadia2783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The fact that it looks and feels like a "proper" truck is probably going to be its best selling point. Comparing the Frontier to all the unibody "trucks", (Maverick, Santa Cruz, etc,) for interior space or ride feel isn't a fair comparison. :/

    • @desertfresh3740
      @desertfresh3740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He's saying how small the Frontier interior is compared to *smaller* trucks. Meaning the Frontier is not only small for its class, but small compared to *smaller* trucks.
      The Ranger's interior is smaller than the Maverick's, but still larger than the Frontier.

    • @bipbop3121
      @bipbop3121 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, this really bothered me. Those things are probably less capable than for purpose utes. Utes aren't trucks, regardless of body, bed. But here we are, lies sell better, so wagons play ugly dress up as SUVs, cars dressed up as trucks. A real truck being compared unfairly to car ride cush and turbos, only fit for shortening engine lifespan, because fools rush in.

    • @RafaelPernia
      @RafaelPernia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "All the unibody trucks".... just two. The real competition here is the tacoma, ranger and colorado. I get it, an old school truck has its charm... but they're charging you like a new truck with new tech. The old feeling is not by design, it's because there's not much research. The body is heavy. The engine is old school so the I guess the mileage is not great. Those advancements matter. That's why the Ranger's 2.4 4cyl feels faster than this and is more fuel efficient.

  • @harysuper
    @harysuper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Still has the same frame and mechanics of the old truck which I like. I also love how simple and old school they have kept it. I’m upset they ditched the roof rack. It gave it a more of a global look.

    • @tz444
      @tz444 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually I like the fact they ditched the roof rack. I would rather install one the works better for actual use.

  • @yuma_da_puma
    @yuma_da_puma 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My dad has a 2021. It's the old body style with the new 3.8 & 9 speed. Thing has some pep!

  • @southshore0007
    @southshore0007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I saw 4 reviews of this truck and you gave the most honest review, I see why you get the numbers of views that you get keep up the good work👍

    • @bonzobonanza
      @bonzobonanza 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah because unlike most car reviewers, Doug is the most honest.

  • @speedskid4838
    @speedskid4838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    You know for having old style features, I don’t see that as a bad thing. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

    • @GM-sk2wk
      @GM-sk2wk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I agree. It’s a truck, not a new iPhone. Some things don’t have to change.

    • @pesadafara1639
      @pesadafara1639 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Special love content over 18 years old
      NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE
      tricks I do not know
      Megan: "Hotter"
      Hopi: "Sweeter"
      Joonie: "Cooler"
      Yoongi: "Butter
      So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
      Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
      Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
      Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
      Dene: '' Muzdak ''
      Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
      Aç köz arstan
      Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
      Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
      Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
      They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
      💗❤️💌💘

    • @sekcgamer7623
      @sekcgamer7623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Looks like shit, especially when you’re paying over 30k for the top of the line 🤣

    • @chiemekaa
      @chiemekaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sekcgamer7623 As compared to what else currently in its class?

    • @CortMarshal
      @CortMarshal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then you should buy an older truck and save $20k

  • @americansmark
    @americansmark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think the market needs a rough and ready truck with heated seats. You get the reliability of a Nissan truck but some modern comforts that make the commute better. It's not a home run, but it's a solid truck.

  • @JointerMark
    @JointerMark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think it has been forgotten what a pickup is meant for. It is meant to be a reliable affordable means to an end, not s showpiece or entertainment centre. Judging a truck isn't pretty enough or 'tough looking' enough is probably because the person judging it doesn't need a truck, but wants a truck for the image of being a truck owner. A truck should be able to haul stuff every time you need to haul stuff. Electronic gadgets including cameras and auto braking systems feed the marketing hype and jack up the cost of a vehicle unnecessarily. Trucks have mirrors, those who need trucks know how to use their mirrors. All this 'safety' equipment is electronic jewelry, paying attention to your driving is the most reliable safety feature. Give me an old school truck any day, especially if it comes with old school pricing...we pay a huge premium for stylish cars pretending to be trucks.

  • @OPMDS1
    @OPMDS1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    maaan the whole old school Nissan frontier is cool though! I think the mix of old and new features is the best way to make some money quick and also brining back some drivers who just want a simple. rugged, and cheaper truck to drive.

  • @houstonrefinery719
    @houstonrefinery719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Doug, can you explain why you gave the new honda civic a 3 handling score and the Raptor a 4?

    • @isaiahgarcia4279
      @isaiahgarcia4279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He's Doug demuro I mean..

    • @MrCarGuy
      @MrCarGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      There has never been much consistency. Just the whims of Doug

    • @roddydykes7053
      @roddydykes7053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Just to get the overall scores where he wants them

    • @nostalgio697
      @nostalgio697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Don't mind his scoring system.. Its meaningless. Being a car youtuber does not makes him a car expert..

    • @afcgeo882
      @afcgeo882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      His scores are meant to be considered against other vehicles in the same class.

  • @wh4070
    @wh4070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    We just went and looked at these as well as the other trucks like it. The Tacoma had the worst rear seat room, while the Frontier had the best rear seat room. Not saying much as you can see.

    • @isaac4273
      @isaac4273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can tell you it's bad, my dad has one and I often have to ride in the back, with my brothers. It is tight has hell, and we're not even past 5'10 or 11

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You don't buy a mid-size truck for the rear seat room, they're all snug back there.

    • @DeuceDeuceBravo
      @DeuceDeuceBravo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Truth. Anyone who needs to have the cabin full of people on a regular basis really needs to get a full size truck.
      My Tacoma back seat is for the dog.

  • @alquinn3562
    @alquinn3562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2010 frontier driver. 211,000 miles on it. Never so much as a problem. The pro4x has a beefier suspension which might contribute to a bouncier ride than the sv. I love my 2010 but with the upgrades of the 2022. I’ll buy it again. The higher bed sides are cool. My 2010 is a long bed and I would keep that functionality. Lifestyle is hunting and fishing. Tow boats (20’ bow rider, 20 ‘ pontoon etc.) It’s perfect

  • @anthonyharipersaud6862
    @anthonyharipersaud6862 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I genuinely love the new frontier does exactly what it’s made for

  • @zackbrinkley1442
    @zackbrinkley1442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bought an sv back in January. Absolutely love it. My only complaint is that all the trim levels should’ve came standard with a rear locker

    • @brad4527
      @brad4527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can install a Dana locker

  • @NateFord
    @NateFord 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That “Ranger” at 1:40 doesn’t look like any Ranger I’ve ever seen

  • @damilolaakanni
    @damilolaakanni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    It feels old because it's actually old. This seems like more of a major mid cycle refresh than a full redesign.

    • @fty-ys4ni
      @fty-ys4ni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely not breaking any barriers with this truck but it brings Nissans mid-size presence to the current state of the industry

    • @JuanGarcia-fv9ph
      @JuanGarcia-fv9ph 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But why possibly fuck up a perfectly good v6 and capable frame for a mew one. plus this keeps servicing easier for new owners and parts shouldnt shoot up bc of all the mew sensors and crap that new new vehicles demand

    • @fty-ys4ni
      @fty-ys4ni 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JuanGarcia-fv9ph I’m sure Nissan isn’t really in a position to make drastic changes to its assembly line so that’s most likely why they’re sticking to some older/already established designs. Maybe in the coming years after this new and impressive (for Nissan) updated fleet rollout, we’ll see bigger changes in their power trains and base platforms. Heck, they’re probably prepping for that as we speak.

  • @froggy-man
    @froggy-man 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    when nissan uses an old truck graphic it's "novel" and "outdated" but slap a similar sticker on a jeep/ford and watch everyone clammer for its "heritage" and "throwback" smh

    • @Playingwithproxies
      @Playingwithproxies 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a difference between having your old truck outlines in the plastic molds or a tiny Jeep on the bottom of the windshield and having an old sticker you still use.

    • @benchattin
      @benchattin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because with other brands those types of stickers and related aspects of vehicles have been out of production for years and are brought back to match any particular models aesthetic in which are meant to be a nostalgic throwback. With Nissan that isn't the case because they're penny pinching and don't want to update it; case in point, they also used a nearly decade old steering wheel in an "all-new" vehicle. I'm not complaining though, it's a cool sticker.

  • @camogap7392
    @camogap7392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I'm pretty glad to see Nissan revamping their lineup after like forever.

    • @NigelMontezuma
      @NigelMontezuma 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @MINA---♋️ WHAT THE FUCK

    • @arjnarersn01
      @arjnarersn01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@NigelMontezuma it’s a bot dummy

    • @pesadafara1639
      @pesadafara1639 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Special love content over 18 years old
      NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE
      tricks I do not know
      Megan: "Hotter"
      Hopi: "Sweeter"
      Joonie: "Cooler"
      Yoongi: "Butter
      So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
      Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
      Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
      Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
      Dene: '' Muzdak ''
      Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
      Aç köz arstan
      Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
      Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
      Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
      They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
      💗❤️💌💘

    • @KB-bh9hp
      @KB-bh9hp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now I'm just here waiting for the goddamned r36. I've started to actively hate the r35 lol. Realize now that it's not a very good looking car, at all. It's become vastly overpriced for the design, performance, and tech it offers, and it's over hyped to no end. Want an r36 so we can at least move on from the r35 a little bit.

    • @MK4vDubbin
      @MK4vDubbin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you like the redesign. You’ll be looking at it for the next 15 years.

  • @thetinysideoftiny7625
    @thetinysideoftiny7625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just bought this truck for all the reasons Doug complains about lol. The old school nature was the biggest selling point for me. Also, I disagree with Doug's complaint about the engine not feeling powerful. My previous truck (traded in on the Frontier) was a 2003 Tundra w the 4.7L V8. The Frontier feels just as quick and powerful. I've owned the Frontier for 2 months now and no regrets. Chose it over the Tacoma and I'm good with that. I tow a lot and the Tacoma had a gutless engine and relentlessly shifting transmission. Vastly better drivetrain for towing with the Frontier.

  • @jimjones9949
    @jimjones9949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t want a modern car based gear selector or any other fancy unreliable technology in my truck. Nissan did a great job with this truck!

  • @snakerb
    @snakerb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I think my only gripe with this truck is the fact that the steering wheel still doesn’t telescope.

    • @pesadafara1639
      @pesadafara1639 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Special love content over 18 years old
      NUDE-DATTING.ONLINE
      tricks I do not know
      Megan: "Hotter"
      Hopi: "Sweeter"
      Joonie: "Cooler"
      Yoongi: "Butter
      So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
      Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
      Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
      Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
      Dene: '' Muzdak ''
      Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
      Aç köz arstan
      Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
      Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
      Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
      They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
      💗❤️💌💘

  • @willfarmer7351
    @willfarmer7351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think its cool that, the tech they did add is actually very useful for construction / truck users. Heated seat & wheel is great for the cold. All the safety equipment is a huge plus for a business owner wanting a fleet. Watching this review I was just thinking "you can use most of this truck with gloves on".. something you cant say about most modern cars.

  • @aislingmairead4939
    @aislingmairead4939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Of course Doug would compare this to a Rivian 🙄
    I love it! The design, the "Nissan-ness" about it, the hints of OG Hardbody on the exterior.. all it needs is a manual, and I think those 310 ponies would have a much more spirited trot to them. Had I not just bought a 4Runner for pretty much the same (but parallel because Toyota) reasons I'm digging on the Frontier, I would've gotten one of these.
    Well done, Nissan!

  • @aaronlevier802
    @aaronlevier802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that "THISSSSSS" in the begining was the best THISSSS ive ever heard doug THIISSSS

  • @ElwoodPDowd-nz2si
    @ElwoodPDowd-nz2si ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my frontier. My dad had one of the first frontiers for over 25 years before he sold it to a neighbor. It is still going strong. I had a 1999 model and now I own the 2022 sv.

  • @schoeeff3815
    @schoeeff3815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ordering one in September, love the new look and still have the old school feel to it.

  • @MamboFerido
    @MamboFerido 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have a growing love for the frontier. It has now joined my ever expanding choices of trucks I cannot buy. 😅 Gladiator, 2023 Canyon, Maverick.

  • @Cologne_Trooper
    @Cologne_Trooper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    16:55 you just compared a midsized pickup to 2 crossover pickups and 2 luxury trucks. That makes no sense. Comparing the Frontier to other midsized trucks or 1500s would make a little more sense.

  • @ScottXC91
    @ScottXC91 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love at the end when he’s naming off other options people might consider over the Nissan, he doesn’t even mention the GM trucks. Classic.

  • @WithTheBears
    @WithTheBears 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really appreciate the simpler "less is more" style of the truck. Too many trucks feel like they are built for guys headed to Starbucks rather than to pick up a load of wood or going off to the job site

  • @_alex_y.not_
    @_alex_y.not_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Can't believe Doug missed his opportunity to make a pun on Nissan turning over a new Leaf.

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's cus no one remembers the Leaf, except Doug is supposed to be the kind of guy who does
      edit: actually the Leaf isn't as unpopular as I thought it was

    • @sgtdan707
      @sgtdan707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Alex Yang Did we watch the same video? 12:20

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sgtdan707 He didn't make the pun though, he just said the phrase. Doug usually laughs or chuckles when he makes jokes. And that's not a Leaf if that's what you're trying to say.

    • @sgtdan707
      @sgtdan707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@protocetid yea i do see your point. Still, is low hanging fruit, lol

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sgtdan707 low hanging, Leaf heh

  • @ayebing
    @ayebing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It’s designed for functionality, does everything it needs to do. I love it . This is the only truck I’d consider buying other than a Tacoma. Which I’d have to assume is the consumer market Nissan built this for.

    • @watchreport
      @watchreport 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ll agree to a point. But remember, you have to pay money for this, and they aren’t $20’000 anymore. Things like the backup cam quality and resolution are just uncalled for in 2022 and no telescoping steering wheel?
      I don’t mind the rest, I like the old school shifter, I like physical buttons, etc, but some of this just shows they didn’t care when putting out a “new” truck.

    • @KB-bh9hp
      @KB-bh9hp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The ranger is my pick. The new one looks beastly, and it it follows the current rangers trend of being the most reliable midsized truck, according to Consumer Reports at least, then I'll be happy.

    • @-SP.
      @-SP. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KB-bh9hp The most reliable truck would be the Tacoma, no way Ford with their shitty history is outdoing Toyota

    • @ayebing
      @ayebing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@watchreport you’re right , and those are good points to be sure, but no mid size truck is 20k anymore . My current Tacoma (sr5) had a 36k sticker price with arguably even LESS features than a frontier. The Ranger similarly equipped is also In the mid 30s. The tech should absolutely be better at that price range but the truth is that across the board …all options are lacking/not meeting our expectations on some level.

  • @jwrigh32
    @jwrigh32 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    7000 rpm Rev limiter is impressive when alfas i4 revs to 5500 rpm

    • @MOJump23
      @MOJump23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/jMyRvfwJYV4/w-d-xo.html

  • @hartsickdisciple
    @hartsickdisciple 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I drove one of these today, and was pretty impressed.

  • @fahd3228
    @fahd3228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nothing wrong with the steering wheel or the backup cam, This is a truck not a luxury car . It is meant to be functional capable durable for utility not for show off

  • @ninji5226
    @ninji5226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have a '15 Titan that had the same complaints about being around forever, but there's a benefit there, namely reliability. The frontiers and last gen Titans are bulletproof mostly because of the lack of whizz bang features that just become more crap to break and small tweaks to the engine and drivetrain vs huge leaps of faith every 4 yrs. I will admit 45k for that is a bit much but they will be a steal on the used market.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, the Frontier has never had the resale value of the Tacoma. I've had offers of 39k on my 2019 Tacoma from dealers despite it having 73k miles, I only paid 40k for it.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Toyotas have tons of tech in them, yet still manage to be rock solid reliable. You can have high tech and reliable if you know what you're doing and don't be cheapskates like Nissan and the US automakers.

    • @ninji5226
      @ninji5226 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrvwbug4423 But the tundra has been blasted too for not keeping up with other trucks in terms of features, until this yr. I think Nissan waits too long but there was a time when every manufacturer went a while between major upgrades and the truck were better for it. But then again the new Titan is a turd and has all kinds of engine problems so maybe not. It's all a crap shoot at this point isn't it?

  • @amlxr99912
    @amlxr99912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Doug - “The Nissan Frontier is a New Truck that feels Old”
    Meanwhile in the Middle East - Old Nissan Batrols get sold as “New”…

  • @bwofficial1776
    @bwofficial1776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These are selling well in my East Coast state. Like the Tacoma, the truckiness and blocky styling are features, not drawbacks.

  • @Blue-moon12
    @Blue-moon12 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Doug doesn't get trucks. Way faster than a Tacoma (23). The truck rides smooth and quiet

  • @kevinshea5819
    @kevinshea5819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:33 looks like someone cleaned the info screen with brillo.