It's amazing the amount of marketing went into selling people mass produced screens that can just be dropped into any model. Yeah a screen is more expensive than buttons in a vacuum, but apply that to an entire fleet of vehicles and thousands of models sold. Personally I think screens look and feel cheap, and they date the car so horribly. Most of them are built with the same quality as my 150 dollar Motorola phone, which is something I just can't unsee.
I've had non car people not understand why I bought a base model forester for the manual transmission when they know I can afford more. Cars being appliances now gives people the same mindset as shoppers for smart phones.
It’s a generational thing. The first iPhone came out almost 20 years ago. Younger people are used to touchscreen interfaces. For them a vehicle without a touchscreen is like me having one without physical knobs- weird. In the future more and more folks will view physical controls as anachronistic. Time stops for no one
@@Silversmok3i was a kid when the first iphone came out and i hate it no less, and my finger still cant get this not 16:9 keyboard right, have to look for every tap. buttons should be a safety factor if nothing else. touch screens on cars should be like using your phone while driving, because it's exactly the same
@Toastillaa Decent is affordable and more then likely more reliable without all the extra crap to go wrong with the vehicle. So the average working person can afford to buy a decent truck or as I like to call it the best truck. Its the best truck because its more reliable and actually afforable not to mention it usually does truck stuff like work better then a fancy truck.
@@CiqaedaI agree I spent 89k on a sick Tundra TRD pro. I use it to go to the gym and the super market but it is soooo sick. Also it can go anywhere OFF ROAD!!!!
been driving a 2001 ford ranger for the last 13 years i've had my license. everytime i get into something post 2010 i feel like i've entered a spaceship.
I bought this truck for it's old school simplicity. I did NOT want a turbo 4 and touch screens in place of physical controls. I've owned it for a year now and I love it. Quiet, comfortable, powerful, well assembled. If you view this as a humble workhorse that gets the job done, you'll be very happy. If you have high-tech aspirations or expect this vehicle to be a plush SUV - this is not the vehicle for you. The new Frontier is a basic truck on a well-proven platform. There's no shame in that.
If Nissan's smart they'll keep pumping these out as-is for as long as possible...the more crazy the economy/car market gets, the more people will migrate to simple "honest" vehicles like this that they can actually kind of afford
I say some variation of this in every Savagegeese video about a truck, but if you build a single cab 8 foot bed pickup truck that humans can afford, the world will beat a path to your door.
Afford as long as gas is subsidized heavily by the government. If they meant affordability, they would produce a 1/2 sized truck with four cylinder. Nothing screams affordable more like 45k+$ trucks with dealer markups.
@@shanec9672 Preach! It's darn near impossible to get a single cab fullsize for less than 50k$ in anything but the poverty spec. The auto industry has lost its collective mind and consumers are addicted to debt. I don't think this can go on forever.
@@shanec9672 I would want one of the old chevy 1500s with the suicide extended cab doors again since the rear seat folds up to form an internal secure "toolbox" of sorts. But yes basically what you said is so true! Nissan trucks and sports cars definitely fall in this category. Tried and true, gets the job done, relatively cheap and only the relevant safety and aesthetic elements are upgraded. No need to reinvent the wheel with every model iteration, that "innovation" (more like selling gimmicks we don't need) is what has been driving the prices up and forcing folks to take on insane amounts of car debt for years.
Short video, modest truck, and the one of most relevant reviews in a while for those of us who want to remember what an attainably real vehicle is like.
Marks rant at 6 mins was absolute truth. People will not keep up with every car/truck being 50-80k forever and those manufacturers who forget that are missing a huge market.
I honestly think that’s why the Ford Maverick is doing so well, it’s cheap, and it does a lot of the trucky things for the wannabe truckists that used yo larp with basic F150s/Silverados but now that the prices of those are shooting through the roof, they can just be like “well this little truck does what I need for a relatively small amount of money.”
This and the Titan are my favorite trucks! No turbo BS!! Basic naturally aspirated engines and solid builds. Not even the domestics build trucks like this. Please keep these alive Nissan!
Nissan knows their target audience. I like this truck, a throw back to the past, affordable, imperfect. A new truck you could buy and drive for less than $1,700/MO your neighbor pays for a DuraMax, GMC Denali he uses to tow a jet ski. 😮😅
Even a jet ski trailer is a statistical exception. Most big pickup buyers tow nothing, or anything other than commute. They wear the trucks as a cosplay outfit. The truck is a physical manifestation of an imagined lifestyle that would require rugged items, if the fantasy was true. In reality, the softer lifestyles get, the more rugged the make-believe becomes to compensate.
I picked one of these up. ‘22 pro4x with all the things. I get comments on it frequently which surprised me. People like it. And I bought it for the reasons outlined here. I didn’t want some strung out block on turbos. I’m expecting people will appreciate these trucks more and more as this formula fades from prevalence.
Traded in my 18 WRX in fear of long term reliability with a DI turbo for a '22 Frontier Pro-X with 1600 miles. It has has everything I need in a vehicle, simple controls and no bullshit. I've already put it work with hauling a fridge across town. It's an honest truck with no gimmicks. The NA V6 is quite punchy and I average around 24MPG on the highway. So far, I'm not regretting my trade in.
As a 40 something man who can type without looking at the keyboard I hate having to look away from the road to adjust *ANYTHING* in my car. It baffles me how car companies will cushion a whole family in 50 airbags but overlook the simple fact that they should also do whatever they can to have people looking where they are going.
The fact it is illegal to look at my phone while driving but a manufacturer can force me to look at a screen to perform frequent actions still baffles me.
I bought one last October and plan to keep it till it dies. This truck is amazing! It has great power, the transmission is smooth, and it's a genuinely good looking truck.
@@mmr0221I bought one around the same timeframe. The only issues that I’ve had has been misc cosmetic stuff. Like one of the seals around the door started to fall off. Dealership fixed it in like 30 minutes. Engine wise and electrically I’ve had zero.
@@swampssa sounds good - a poor dealership experience is another thing that I worry about with Nissans but I’ve had poor experiences with almost every brand
@@mmr0221it's definitely hit or miss from a dealer perspective. Personally, with my past Nismos, my local dealer was great and respected my requests to not wash the car. Then again, they're a GT-R certified shop and service a ton of vintage Z's in the area, so they may be more attentive than others.
Bought a pro 4x on Monday. $4k under sticker and they bought down my rate. It was exactly what I was looking for and I love it. Only complaint is my knee bumps into the 2/4/4l dial area if someone is sitting behind me.
You guys are pretty good. But one comment about people with disposable income. I just traded my 2018 Tacoma TRD Off Road for 2023 Nissan Pro-4X with Nismo off road kit. Got it for the low 40s. I could have bought anything else in the truck world (I just bought a couple years old Lambo Huracan, backed out of a Ferrari 458 Italia purchase after watching your review, thanks for the excellent review!) but I found this truck very appealing. I need a daily driver that can go to the hardware store and get me dirt, mulch etc... when my wife needs to build another garden. It is very analog with no hybrid or turbo technology, just a straight N/A V6 with a very well coupled 9 speed (I hear Mercedes) transmission. My 2018 Tacoma drive train was pitiful compared to this truck. I looked at Ford Raptor, Chevrolet Colorado ZR2, GMC AT4X (liked it) and of course Jeep Gladiator Mojave (severely overpriced and unreliable but very off-road capable). I did not want to wait for a new Tacoma since it will be at least a year before I am able to get one and will be overpriced anyway (also I had my share of issues with the current Taco that I just traded in). All those trucks are now luxury vehicles (just like you said) that have so many unnecessary features that can break down. I just wanted a simple reliable dirt hauler that is OK to drive daily. I do go off (snow)-roading since I live in a very cold part of the US. This truck in my opinion is slightly more off-road worthy than the 2018 Tacoma TRD Off-Road model. Which is good enough for me. I was pleasantly surprised how well it drives. Inside is quite luxurious for the price. It has enough features (maybe a bit more than I wanted). Riding position is great and the shocks are excellent. Why spend more on something that is not much better? I looked for reliability, simplicity and good price. If I wanted a luxury car I would have bought a luxury SUV. Thanks, great review as usual.
The Frontier never reviews well in traditional car media, but they sell well and owners love them. It has been and is a reliable, dutiful truck. This is the truck you get if you actually use it for work or seriously play without showing off and or bankrupting yourself. I've owned two gen 2 Frontiers and a D21 Hardbody and love them all.
Yep, it's weird, doesn't have the following of the Taco (really mostly thanks to Top Gear), but there are still Hardbodys and old Pathfinders rolling around just fine. The Xterra is another gem in the rough once a couple things are taken care of to make them bulletproof. I knew a buddy who picked a low km one up and put a bit of money into a dedicated trans cooler, oil cooler, upgraded radiator, and a coolant swirl pot and wrapped all the bare plastic parts. It looks great and he sends it overland no problem!
Nissan pickups have always been underrated in the 21st century. Hardbody D21s used to be basically the more affordable Toyota Pickup and they haven't been much different in that formula. Though now the trucks are even closer in quality, reliability, and utility
I was just thinking the same. That's one crucial thing missing from the Nissan lineup. And that segment is about to heat up again with the Land Cruiser/Prado and possibly 4Runner. They should not wait until everyone else gobbles up the market share.
That was the first thing I thought of when I took y 2023 S for a drive. An Xterra would rock on that platform! But they dont want a competitor against Pathfinder though
We had a 2006 Frontier with the supercharger and it was amazing how it would make cool nosies but was so slow still. We beat on pretty hard and it held up well. Just went through a lot of brakes. It was honestly not that bad of a truck, we got almost 200k miles on it with nothing but basic maintenance. I would probably cross shop one of these with the Tacoma if you want to watch you dollars and are worried about turbos and all that jazz. Thanks for the review gents.
My Dad had a 2005 Frontier with the supercharged 3.3L V6. Indeed, it still somehow felt slow. It was a fantastic truck though. Very dependable for the 200k miles he had it. Nothing major went wrong. Just little things.
@@danr154 Yeah for sure. Off road the thing had pretty nice gearing. It was a good truck for the most part. I remember wading water almost past the tires too, it did well. Pretty good truck honestly, just got rid of it because 200k miles seemed high to me.
I appreciate car reviewers talking about reality for most people. It sure seems like a lot of car manufacturers still haven’t figured out most people can’t afford their products.
A lot of people who have a lot of money got there by making smart decisions. I am a doctor but I drive a 14 year old Honda Odyssey that I bought new. This truck is appealing to me because there is no gambling at this point. I will still probably get a used 4Runner or something next but I appreciate this truck.
I test drove the Frontier directly after driving the Tacoma, and I liked the Frontier better. It felt more solid, more grounded, and less sketchy in the front end. Add the fact that it is 5k less than the Tacoma and it wasn't a hard decision to make.
I know people said this before, This is truly the best review!!! love how you tell people how us Nissan owners feel about our trucks to people who think Nissan should add this or that..... Finally you 2 say it like it is!!!❤❤❤❤😊😊! Thank you so much!!! Brad.
I just bought a 2023 P4X Premium with basically every option with 12k miles for 35k. Compared the tacoma I could have bought for the same money this is light years better. 3.8/9at is snappy, p4x headlights are fantastic, big chunky knobs for hvac and radio, no stupid 24' tvs like in the new trucks, Having driven tacomas of same era, I much perfer this. I'm loving my purchase
This and the Tacoma have angles and cuts that make them look classic. I think the frontier looks angular and flashy while the Tacoma is more rounded and less in your face. Both look great but there is definitely a preference of classic/modern style. The tacoma has been on the road a lot longer than the new frontier so it does seem one is "fresher" than the other. I personally prefer the more subtle classic truck look of the Tacoma vs the try hard in your face body effects in these newer suv's/trucks like the Frontier. What is MOST important though is the reliability of that transmission. If it is not up to the Tacoma standard the value will drop and it won't be on my shopping list.
@@robob221 that’s a good point, I rented a Tacoma TRD for work and it drove awful on the highway, but in 4H it did do well on the dirt roads. Seeing the price difference in both trucks, and in my career everyone has a Tacoma, id stick with the frontier
I love my FJ it’s an 07, boring engine and only a 5 speed transmission. No glitz and glamour. It’s basic, it’s reliable, and I drive it across the nation for work. So with that being said I can really appreciate the frontier being on the market.
35k miles on my 22 SV 4x4 and it's been great. I just made a 900+ mile drive and it was very comfortable. The V6/9 speed is smooth and has plenty of grunt, plus the hefty hydraulic steering gives it a very solid and connected feel.
@@judgeman6970 I usually average 20-22 mpg on the highway, 24 if I'm really hypermiling it. On my road trip I averaged 18, that's with a lead foot at 80mph most of the way.
Its a great Truck and lineage. I had a 1987 and a 2003.. they are easy to maintain, does the job its built for. I think it looks great too.. For me as a midsize pickup.. Taco and Fronty are it.
You guys nailed it we bought a 2022 frontier for reliability & it's old school simplicity. Also we were able to get it fully loaded for the price of a used Tacoma.
Another great video fellas: I grabbed a new (fairly base trim) Tacoma a few month back when I realized Toyota was offering 1.9% at 48 months. Same reasoning as you pointed out in this video: my priority was long term reliability, simplicity, and something I could get off the "hamster wheel" of constant changing of cars. I drove home, suited up, and with 90 miles on the odometer, fluid-filmed the entire underside (I live in the north east). It has everything I need (apple car play, adaptive cruise, etc) after owning and trying out all the latest tech, realizing most was just gimmicks that wow'd me on the test drive but two weeks in I couldn't care less about.
Would recommend trying out some other rustproofers. Fluid Film is fantastic, but it kinda washes off easily, and it's basically gone if you go through an undercarriage car wash once. CRC Marine Corrosion Inhibitor works just as well if not better, and since it's just cosmoline in a spray can, it's basically impossible to wash off and it usually lasts on the underside of a vehicle for 2-3 years before needing reapplied
@@Black-Villain i researched the hell out of it, talked to off-road guys, trucking company owners, ect and they all said fluid film. I purchased a 5-gallon can of fluid-film and the sprayer: I’ve used it for years on multiple vehicles. It’s certainly not going to wash off after one under carriage wash, but should be re-applied every fall. The first application sucks because you have to fill the frame, rockers, remove spare, skid, ect. But now I can re-apply it in 20 minutes. It’s also safe over rubber, electrical connections, ect. I won’t even touch it up this year because we got no snow last year and had no salt on the roads (first year I can say that)
I had a chance to test drive a Pro 4X this summer and I was impressed by it. At some point in the future I will buy one. The engine is plenty powerful for in town and highways/freeway drives. As for prices I see well equipped SVs in the low to mid 30s and loaded Pro 4Xs in the low to mid 40s. Maybe a bit more expensive than the Colorado but you get a solid NA V6 and lots of standard equipment.
In my Area, San Diego, Nissan was the only dealership that did not have any markups on vehicles for the past few years. Toyota had a 10k mark up and even kia across the street had a 8k mark up. I laughed at the sales guy and said you can't mark up a kia because its a kia.
I bought my ‘22 Frontier because I wanted a good ol truck that simply works. Got rid of ‘18 F150 that gave me nothing but trouble. Daily driven, off road driven and it tows a travel trailer with zero issues thus far. Favorite vehicle I’ve had in a longgg time.
Even tho these might be the pay the bill videos I really appreciate you guys doing them. They’re perfect for just putting on in the background while I burn the Mac-and-cheese as my toddler screams at me for not going to Arby’s.
This is not just the last in the mid size, its the last true truck, PERIOD. SImple, reliable, doesn't force futuristic features on consumers, looks good, AND great price. Some reviewers complain when trucks feel "truckish"... how about that? its a truck, its supposed to feel like a truck, and do truck things. Thats why other manufacturers are pricing their broken crap at 60k -80k, just piling on garbage on their platforms. Overengineering, overcomplicating, and the price reflects that. I hope people support Nissan, I mean they let the Titan die, which was in the same line as its smaller sibling. Toyota killed the Tacoma for me, this will most likely be my next vehicle
This is a brilliant little truck. It’s stylish, the ride is decent, the engine is powerful enough, and it’s capable enough to do some towing, hauling, and off-roading all while being practical for people to drive to work or through the Macdonald’s drive through. I really think Nissan nailed it. I just wish it had come out a year or before it did, I would’ve snagged one up.
I got a semi loaded 2023 sv rwd (pre auto start model) I bought it specially cause it's a new truck that's old. No gimmicks. Easy to use controls. Parts compatability for years. Consumables and repairs aren't bad. The sv doesn't have the 900 dollar headlamps. It's rwd yes but for what I need it for it's perfect and I'm returning 23 mpg on 87 octane. Hauls 4 260 lb+ guys to work and does the road trip thing rather well. I love the new canyon but again for the price I trust this to make it to 10 years without major issues. And it only cost me 35k (after a discount for end of month sales) leather steering wheel. Remote start. Heated cloths seats. It's perfect. You can't eve n buy a corolla that has those for 35k and I can still tow a trailer with it. Good review. Not knocking it at all but indeed. Truck is truck and it's not trying to be something else. Oh and it's cheaper than a maverick...
I currently own a 2023 Pro 4x that I daily drive to work and occasionally haul stuff. It's a great truck for the average person who doesn't need every gewgaw the empire has to offer. I've had zero issues with it and I get around 20mpg. I love it. I do plan on coating the undercarriage myself this fall to offset the salting they do in Indiana. If you want a simple truck I recommend it 100%
Never understood the “basic” description of the Fronti. I have a 22 Pro-4X and it’s loaded with tech. And yes, I wanted to avoid turbo charged engines for longevity. But I can’t figure out why the media continues to pitch this truck as a dinosaur. It’s super quiet, great ride, lots of tech, 310hp and all for an affordable price. This thing should be an example to follow.
Love it...physical switches, not ridiculously expensive, a drivetrain that will probably last forever...good stuff. And they should do a Frontier Nismo and slap a supercharger on it like they used to back in the day.
the perspective difference is interesting eh? in Canada, you better be prepared to be totally raped if you think of buying one of these, let alone a top model. there is no such thing as affordability with vehicles in this country. long gone.
This type of review, I expect, has the info & perspective that 80% of us appreciate. I don't need the nth degree of "perfection". What I do need is reliability, reasonable amenities & price. Most of the time it is best to go with the proven. Thanks guys for providing reviews aimed at the vast majority of us.
I drove one a while back and really liked it. Interior really is kinda cheap and the back seat is far to vertical for my liking; but effort was used and it shows. Hopefully this one lasts another 10 years in the market. It's this or the taco for me really. Both are great options, one more basic, one more complex
I watched this review to help me love my '22 Pro 4X more... I know of all its qualities, but it lacks a few things such as comfortable back seats (yes, I tow a lot and we travel as a family so the kids complain quite a bit) and ease of use in the city (such a poor radius!). If you are a city dweller and want to use this as a daily, you'll find yourself swearing every now and then. The tranny also has room for improvement, especially between the 1st and 3rd gears as it is a bit clunky, especially when the weather is cold. As a canadian, I experience this too often between October and April. It's also a bit fragile: paint, pannels and windshield... Still, I like it and bought it as a forever truck to tow, go camping/biking, mess around in trails and travel long distance on paved roads. However, I might part with it in the near future and eventually get something more modern and comfortable for the entire family.
I just bought a 2023 Frontier SV King Cab a week ago sue to my 2013 Frontier SV King Cab being totaled. I bought my 2013 used with a 100K miles and it was the most reliable used vehicle I ever bought. I have recently been burnded by a turbo charger failure on my wife's car, so I am avoiding them like the plague.
The Honda Ridgeline is not a truck. I own an '06. It's a MAN VAN! It's a nice vehicle, much like an Odessey with a small bed, but not really a truck truck. And the newer ones are even less of a truck. The frontier is a truck. They just need to put a manual transmission back in it!
Ridgeline, haha. how many Ridglines do you see with lumber racks or used for working at a jobsite. it's just a unibody suv with the rear roof cut out. it competes with the maverick. light duty. try to climb a steep off road trail in the heat and you will overheat the front wheel drive transmission. Ridgeline is a good vehicle if you just need the utility of a bed but it can't compete when it comes to real work for a real working person.
I really appreciate videos like these with a lot of honesty and real everyday appliance type vehicles. I'm looking to replace an aging luxury car with something a little more basic and reliable with the ability to still have a little fun. And the selection out there is tough without wanting to spend a fortune
Picked my fully loaded Pro4X in September of 21 and I love it. I get so many compliments on it when at the pumps. 3 things it needs… 1.telescoping steering wheel 2.better camera clarity 3. 1-2 inch lift from factory Easy updates for Nissan to make in future years!
I got my fully loaded Pro4x in October of 22. Immediately added a 2" lift and upgraded to Cooper Rugged Trek tires. Truck looks great and I have a lot of people compliment it. It is a solid truck and drives great. People that have reviewed the truck say the steering is heavy but that is a real benefit when off road. Gets decent mileage. I am averaging 21.6 mpg over the time I have owned it.
In 2007 I bought a brand new Nissan Frontier. It was a very reliable truck. Last year I bought a brand new Nissan Frontier which appears to be exactly the same as the 2023 model. I LOVE IT, and hope it lasts me to the last of my days.
Putting the vehicle up on a lift and looking at the underside makes this one of the most unique and useful channels about cars on TH-cam… keep that schtuff up!!!
I often find myself really enjoying driving my lifted first gen Sequoia. I've driven Raptors, I have an LS460 as my daily driver, I used to have an Audi A6, but there's a charm to the Sequoia (and the Tundras I cross-shopped for) that I really enjoy. They're simple machines- I know every day that I can count on my Toyota. It's cheap to insure, okay on gas, costs me nothing to maintain, it's just. easy. It has cruise control, heated power seats, and an aftermarket radio. I don't need radar cruise control, lane keep assist, a billion cameras, or a 400hp 2 liter hybrid with an expected lifetime measured in 5 figure mileages. I'd seriously consider the frontier for the price. Something with a V6, brand new, in mid 30s to 40s? What a steal.
I like the Frontier's old-school approach. It's the last truck in the segment with an N/A V6, which is a big plus to me. The VQ V6 is about as tried and true a gas engine as there is in the industry. I think the midrange SV 4x4 makes the most sense, since you can get it for $35-40k. Why spend more than that on a midsize truck? You can get into a full size if you spend more. I have excellent credit, and would still choose this over the other options for the reasons stated above.
A family member just bought one. I drove it. I love it! They had a Frontier, 2005 (I think), they sold to s friend who coveted their original 4 wheel dive option truck. The old truck was used by the entire family when they needed a truck to get mulch, haul stuff . The new owner of the old truck is a tradesman, a carpenter. The new 3023 pro 4x will be used by the entire family for the same purposes: camping, gardening supplies, and getting stuff to the sailboat project. It is a truck! With great features and comfortable seating up front. I drove yesterday and picked up a friend. We went out yo lunch. We were two old ladies and we had no problem getting in or out. The controls were easy to use and the screen with the info was great. The old truck had power windows and heated seats. Rust in a few places. The new truck is modern and the camera system blew me away. Glad someone in the family bought it! And help from the owner in the back seat was not needed.
I love the heart of this and every other video you do. 'Crumbling middle class' you're not kidding. Though who wouldn't want to turn their credit score to 0 in that Hummer EV you drove and just destroy it off road.
I just recently traded into the base model, a red alert S 4x4 around February, and got it for just around 30,000. With the car market as it was/is I never would have thought I would have been able to get into a 4x4 vehicle yet. My Nissan dealer had no markups on it, and I have been very happy with it. I fell in love with it for it's no-nonsense mindset and capabilities. I do have minor complaints such as the cruise control, but no regrets.
Great video, and timely for me. I have been wanting to get a mid-size truck as a replacement for my Mazda3, and honestly, this is the one that has most appealed to me. I love my Mazda ('21 turbo hatch), but from a practically perspective for what we want to do (carting the family/pets around, camping, etc.) it's ultimately been a bit limiting. When I started looking at trucks, it's easy to get sucked in to all the new ones, but I keep coming back to the Frontier as potentially the best option for all the reasons you mention. Anyway, enjoyed the video (and your long term Mazda3 one), and love the way you guys put things in perspective.
@@elonsus9747 25k miles for a rental are hard miles so it could have been that but the truck drove cheap. But maybe that’s what people want is a cheap midsize truck, at the end of the day it gets you there the same
It has A Nissan VQ series engine! remember how long Nissan's VQ was in "Wards top 10 "engine awards? It's very quiet inside with double pane windows. Interior quality has a good fit and finish, with just enough features like android auto and wireless apple car play along with wireless charging and adaptive cruise control to please people that enjoy tech. Cool points* it also shares it's variable pressure oil pump from a GTR.
I’ve owned several small utilitarian trucks through the ages including the Dodge 50 (rebadged Mitsubishi), Isuzu PuP 4x4 (my fave of all of them), a Taco, and, well, let’s not talk about the Dakota. Anyways, knowing what I liked about small trucks (all not-so-small these days) this is the ONLY one I’d shop for in the US. Seriously. I don’t need a cream puff or a truck pretending to be a car, I want a small truck, that’s it, with buttons and knobs, proven and reliable. Nissan is the only manufacture in this segment now, which is such a sad statement.
I bought 22 frontier sv 4×4 for 37k out the door. I pulled my 20' boat daily with ease (l'm commercial crabber), 1/2 yard gravel, 1500lb concrete on the bed was no problem and great everyday drive with respectful mileage. I'm very happy with this little truck. I will watch rusting in the future.
You guys say this frontier likely doesn’t ride as well as the new Taco. But the previous gen Taco rode awful. I mean awful. Way worse than this newish Frontier. Do you know something we don’t about the new Taco?
No, it's just the never ending circle jerk of dorks and tacos. How so many think a taco is somehow so astronomically better than a frontier is beyond dumb. Nissan has always made solid trucks. I still see tons of hardbodies running around and very rarely see any of the old yota from those years. My '08 V6 manual frontier has been nothing but great, with less problems than my brother has had with his '05 taco. Yotas are great but they're also a little overrated by the constant circle jerking by morons that follow the trend and don't actually understand vehicles very well.
The new 2024 Taco is getting coil springs on the rear axle, should improve ride quality a lot. My guess is the frontier has a smoother ride than the 2023 Taco though.
I bought a 2022 exactly like the one in this vid. I bought it because of all the reasons stated here. It's simple, easy to maintain, and it'll last for a long time. It's all the truck I need.
@@66rollincoal Carbon buildup isn't really a failure point, just a maintenance concern in the long term. If you need to walnut blast it once every 100k miles that's not a super huge deal. That being said, since it's a newer design direct injection engine (and a truck is more likely to be under load and blow carbon deposits out before they build up) it should ideally be of minimal concern. What gets me is that the old 4.0L was a bulletproof engine (after the SMOD issue was fixed for automatic transmissions). Made the same amount of torque (at lower RPM even), and the extra 50 horsepower in the 3.8L is made at ~1,000RPM higher (6400RPM), so you're not really getting any more usable power unless you're banging it off the rev limiter constantly, and the very meager increase in 0-60 time quantifies that pretty well. A whole new engine design for a negligible power bump and a whopping 1 MPG more than the 4.0L got with 4x4 and the 6-speed? Just adding the 9-speed probably accounts for that 1 MPG bump. The new engine only exists for reduced emissions, so at that point if you're going to trash a fantastic engine may as well go to a turbo 4 or small turbo 6 and get a boatload of torque and give some benefit to the end-user.
6:01 I agree with this point. Wireless phone charging pads are garbage, wireless apple carplay is unreliable, HUD’s are dim and useless, over complicated adapted suspension is a nightmare to repair, push button start and keyless entry is unnecessary, and giant hybrid batteries are expensive. Just give us a good affordable reliable vehicle that doesn’t break the bank
I own the previous generation and I am so in love with it. The simplicity and beauty of it. The interior totally free of gimmicks. Such a clean design. I will never get rid of it. May be the last ice vehicle I will ever own.
LOVED my manual '98 Nissan Frontier. Gotta love those old graphics haha...Now I've got a '21 Tacoma for the exact same rationale: long-lasting, dependable, and can even resell it at a good price if needed.
Good or Bad; this is the kind of vehicle that the next 2 or 3 generations of new drivers are gonna need if roads and other infrastructures crumble like the direction of our economy and bank accounts........financial advisors and economists should pay attention to this particular episode because you gentlemen are ahead of the curve......pun intended !
It baffles me that people think useable physical controls equals not fancy and poor.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis, you can’t trust people Jeremy
It's amazing the amount of marketing went into selling people mass produced screens that can just be dropped into any model. Yeah a screen is more expensive than buttons in a vacuum, but apply that to an entire fleet of vehicles and thousands of models sold.
Personally I think screens look and feel cheap, and they date the car so horribly. Most of them are built with the same quality as my 150 dollar Motorola phone, which is something I just can't unsee.
I've had non car people not understand why I bought a base model forester for the manual transmission when they know I can afford more.
Cars being appliances now gives people the same mindset as shoppers for smart phones.
It’s a generational thing. The first iPhone came out almost 20 years ago. Younger people are used to touchscreen interfaces. For them a vehicle without a touchscreen is like me having one without physical knobs- weird. In the future more and more folks will view physical controls as anachronistic. Time stops for no one
@@Silversmok3i was a kid when the first iphone came out and i hate it no less, and my finger still cant get this not 16:9 keyboard right, have to look for every tap. buttons should be a safety factor if nothing else. touch screens on cars should be like using your phone while driving, because it's exactly the same
This is perfect for people who actually just need a decent truck.
why settle for decent though...
@Toastillaa Decent is affordable and more then likely more reliable without all the extra crap to go wrong with the vehicle. So the average working person can afford to buy a decent truck or as I like to call it the best truck. Its the best truck because its more reliable and actually afforable not to mention it usually does truck stuff like work better then a fancy truck.
@@Ciqaedabecause consumers want an option that is actually affordable (or as close to it as you can get these days)
@@CiqaedaI agree I spent 89k on a sick Tundra TRD pro. I use it to go to the gym and the super market but it is soooo sick. Also it can go anywhere OFF ROAD!!!!
you shouls see what nissan and toyota offer in australia and the middle east. you can still but a brand new 70-series in any configuaration you want
When you are upgrading from a 20 year old truck. This "old" technology truck feels like a spaceship. My dad absolutely loves his 2022 Frontier
Yes, im driving a 2005 truck… so this Frontier would be a huge upgrade lol
been driving a 2001 ford ranger for the last 13 years i've had my license. everytime i get into something post 2010 i feel like i've entered a spaceship.
Same here lol
@@archermoody9746I want to buy a Ford ranger old, just for the looks and aesthetics, do you recommend it?
I absolutely love my 2022 Frontier as well
I bought this truck for it's old school simplicity. I did NOT want a turbo 4 and touch screens in place of physical controls. I've owned it for a year now and I love it. Quiet, comfortable, powerful, well assembled. If you view this as a humble workhorse that gets the job done, you'll be very happy. If you have high-tech aspirations or expect this vehicle to be a plush SUV - this is not the vehicle for you. The new Frontier is a basic truck on a well-proven platform. There's no shame in that.
Absolutely my experience 100%
For sure man.
If Nissan's smart they'll keep pumping these out as-is for as long as possible...the more crazy the economy/car market gets, the more people will migrate to simple "honest" vehicles like this that they can actually kind of afford
I say some variation of this in every Savagegeese video about a truck, but if you build a single cab 8 foot bed pickup truck that humans can afford, the world will beat a path to your door.
Would be amusing if those like Nissan with existential fears ended up the kings of a declining economy.
Afford as long as gas is subsidized heavily by the government. If they meant affordability, they would produce a 1/2 sized truck with four cylinder. Nothing screams affordable more like 45k+$ trucks with dealer markups.
@@shanec9672 Preach! It's darn near impossible to get a single cab fullsize for less than 50k$ in anything but the poverty spec. The auto industry has lost its collective mind and consumers are addicted to debt. I don't think this can go on forever.
@@shanec9672 I would want one of the old chevy 1500s with the suicide extended cab doors again since the rear seat folds up to form an internal secure "toolbox" of sorts. But yes basically what you said is so true! Nissan trucks and sports cars definitely fall in this category. Tried and true, gets the job done, relatively cheap and only the relevant safety and aesthetic elements are upgraded. No need to reinvent the wheel with every model iteration, that "innovation" (more like selling gimmicks we don't need) is what has been driving the prices up and forcing folks to take on insane amounts of car debt for years.
Short video, modest truck, and the one of most relevant reviews in a while for those of us who want to remember what an attainably real vehicle is like.
Marks rant at 6 mins was absolute truth. People will not keep up with every car/truck being 50-80k forever and those manufacturers who forget that are missing a huge market.
I agree- Mark has thought provoking commentary that is usually on spot.
I honestly think that’s why the Ford Maverick is doing so well, it’s cheap, and it does a lot of the trucky things for the wannabe truckists that used yo larp with basic F150s/Silverados but now that the prices of those are shooting through the roof, they can just be like “well this little truck does what I need for a relatively small amount of money.”
Make the most money now, screw everyone, then, complain to big brother when it all come crashing down. Anybody else hearing blaring alarms?
The new titans fully loaded are in the 50s where as the gmc and ford’s fully loaded are in the 80s so Nissan is doing a pretty good job here
In the near future the rich will be the only ones driving!!
This and the Titan are my favorite trucks! No turbo BS!! Basic naturally aspirated engines and solid builds. Not even the domestics build trucks like this. Please keep these alive Nissan!
It’s unfortunate the titan is going away. Both are great trucks.
@@ghilliemanreviews The titan is going away but the frontier is staying for the foreseeable future, as they are selling rather well
@@matthewthedude146 I know
Sadly Tacoma is going turbo 4.
Nissan knows their target audience. I like this truck, a throw back to the past, affordable, imperfect. A new truck you could buy and drive for less than $1,700/MO your neighbor pays for a DuraMax, GMC Denali he uses to tow a jet ski. 😮😅
For a truck as good as this, imperfect makes it perfect. 😊
tow? you're being generous
Even a jet ski trailer is a statistical exception. Most big pickup buyers tow nothing, or anything other than commute. They wear the trucks as a cosplay outfit. The truck is a physical manifestation of an imagined lifestyle that would require rugged items, if the fantasy was true.
In reality, the softer lifestyles get, the more rugged the make-believe becomes to compensate.
Fully loaded trucks are going for as much as my mom paid for her house in the 90s. It's outrageous!
I picked one of these up. ‘22 pro4x with all the things. I get comments on it frequently which surprised me. People like it. And I bought it for the reasons outlined here. I didn’t want some strung out block on turbos. I’m expecting people will appreciate these trucks more and more as this formula fades from prevalence.
Turbos are to engines what crack cocain is to humans.
Traded in my 18 WRX in fear of long term reliability with a DI turbo for a '22 Frontier Pro-X with 1600 miles. It has has everything I need in a vehicle, simple controls and no bullshit. I've already put it work with hauling a fridge across town. It's an honest truck with no gimmicks. The NA V6 is quite punchy and I average around 24MPG on the highway. So far, I'm not regretting my trade in.
As a 40 something man who can type without looking at the keyboard I hate having to look away from the road to adjust *ANYTHING* in my car. It baffles me how car companies will cushion a whole family in 50 airbags but overlook the simple fact that they should also do whatever they can to have people looking where they are going.
The fact it is illegal to look at my phone while driving but a manufacturer can force me to look at a screen to perform frequent actions still baffles me.
You need K.I.T.T my friend
Finally a sensible truck that actual working ppl can buy. What a novel concept. Way to go Nissan.
I bought one last October and plan to keep it till it dies. This truck is amazing! It has great power, the transmission is smooth, and it's a genuinely good looking truck.
Any issues with it so far?
What was the thing about it 'driving not as good as the new taco' part? What's missing?
@@mmr0221I bought one around the same timeframe. The only issues that I’ve had has been misc cosmetic stuff. Like one of the seals around the door started to fall off. Dealership fixed it in like 30 minutes. Engine wise and electrically I’ve had zero.
@@swampssa sounds good - a poor dealership experience is another thing that I worry about with Nissans but I’ve had poor experiences with almost every brand
@@mmr0221it's definitely hit or miss from a dealer perspective. Personally, with my past Nismos, my local dealer was great and respected my requests to not wash the car. Then again, they're a GT-R certified shop and service a ton of vintage Z's in the area, so they may be more attentive than others.
Bought a pro 4x on Monday. $4k under sticker and they bought down my rate. It was exactly what I was looking for and I love it. Only complaint is my knee bumps into the 2/4/4l dial area if someone is sitting behind me.
What was your out the door price if you don’t mind sharing?
@@cgrist7000 All of the packages and a bunch of accessories/add ons, the sticker was $48k. Out the door was $44k
Still couldn’t afford it if you financed
@@joecro1453if you cant afford a 46k dollar truck, get a better job or buy off market place and fix it up
How tall?
Nissan is following the "naturally aspirated, manual controls" trend. I’m a fan!
You guys are pretty good. But one comment about people with disposable income.
I just traded my 2018 Tacoma TRD Off Road for 2023 Nissan Pro-4X with Nismo off road kit. Got it for the low 40s.
I could have bought anything else in the truck world (I just bought a couple years old Lambo Huracan, backed out of a Ferrari 458 Italia purchase after watching your review, thanks for the excellent review!) but I found this truck very appealing. I need a daily driver that can go to the hardware store and get me dirt, mulch etc... when my wife needs to build another garden. It is very analog with no hybrid or turbo technology, just a straight N/A V6 with a very well coupled 9 speed (I hear Mercedes) transmission. My 2018 Tacoma drive train was pitiful compared to this truck.
I looked at Ford Raptor, Chevrolet Colorado ZR2, GMC AT4X (liked it) and of course Jeep Gladiator Mojave (severely overpriced and unreliable but very off-road capable). I did not want to wait for a new Tacoma since it will be at least a year before I am able to get one and will be overpriced anyway (also I had my share of issues with the current Taco that I just traded in).
All those trucks are now luxury vehicles (just like you said) that have so many unnecessary features that can break down. I just wanted a simple reliable dirt hauler that is OK to drive daily. I do go off (snow)-roading since I live in a very cold part of the US. This truck in my opinion is slightly more off-road worthy than the 2018 Tacoma TRD Off-Road model. Which is good enough for me.
I was pleasantly surprised how well it drives. Inside is quite luxurious for the price. It has enough features (maybe a bit more than I wanted). Riding position is great and the shocks are excellent.
Why spend more on something that is not much better? I looked for reliability, simplicity and good price. If I wanted a luxury car I would have bought a luxury SUV.
Thanks, great review as usual.
The Frontier never reviews well in traditional car media, but they sell well and owners love them. It has been and is a reliable, dutiful truck. This is the truck you get if you actually use it for work or seriously play without showing off and or bankrupting yourself.
I've owned two gen 2 Frontiers and a D21 Hardbody and love them all.
Yep, it's weird, doesn't have the following of the Taco (really mostly thanks to Top Gear), but there are still Hardbodys and old Pathfinders rolling around just fine. The Xterra is another gem in the rough once a couple things are taken care of to make them bulletproof. I knew a buddy who picked a low km one up and put a bit of money into a dedicated trans cooler, oil cooler, upgraded radiator, and a coolant swirl pot and wrapped all the bare plastic parts. It looks great and he sends it overland no problem!
Very well stated. I have a 2022 Frontier and I love it. It's a simple, honest, durable workhorse.
Well said man! 👏🏽 totally agree!
Nissan pickups have always been underrated in the 21st century. Hardbody D21s used to be basically the more affordable Toyota Pickup and they haven't been much different in that formula. Though now the trucks are even closer in quality, reliability, and utility
Savage Geese continues to be one of the few channels that honestly reviews cars real people can buy. It’s appreciated.
I actually test drove one last December when Nissan was giving killer lease deals. I actually liked it. Classic truck! Looks nice as well.
What is the deal ?
@@jackmac66 At the time, it was a 12 or 18 month lease for a fully loaded version that MSRP'd at around 46k for $475/mo and 15k miles/yr.
Hope they bring back the Xterra on this platform. Would be a great competitor with other small SUV returns.
I'd buy the first first model year if they did that!i love my 01 X, just wish i had 4x4
I was just thinking the same. That's one crucial thing missing from the Nissan lineup. And that segment is about to heat up again with the Land Cruiser/Prado and possibly 4Runner. They should not wait until everyone else gobbles up the market share.
Love my 05 xterra. If they came out with a new one I'd buy a first year as well. As long as it's a 6 speed of course.
That was the first thing I thought of when I took y 2023 S for a drive. An Xterra would rock on that platform! But they dont want a competitor against Pathfinder though
I've been saying this since they updated the Frontier and the outdoor craze is booming...Nissan ,...always a day late and a dollar short.
We had a 2006 Frontier with the supercharger and it was amazing how it would make cool nosies but was so slow still. We beat on pretty hard and it held up well. Just went through a lot of brakes. It was honestly not that bad of a truck, we got almost 200k miles on it with nothing but basic maintenance. I would probably cross shop one of these with the Tacoma if you want to watch you dollars and are worried about turbos and all that jazz. Thanks for the review gents.
My Dad had a 2005 Frontier with the supercharged 3.3L V6. Indeed, it still somehow felt slow. It was a fantastic truck though. Very dependable for the 200k miles he had it. Nothing major went wrong. Just little things.
@@palebeachbumprobably because that was an engine that remained largely unchanged since its debut in the early 80's powering the maxima and 300zx.
We had a similar nissan frontier with a v6 supercharger and I loved it. The only problem was the abysmal gas mileage it got for a mid size truck.
Ive driven one of these supercharged ones, 5 speed manual. I feel like it was geared to be slow.
@@danr154 Yeah for sure. Off road the thing had pretty nice gearing. It was a good truck for the most part. I remember wading water almost past the tires too, it did well. Pretty good truck honestly, just got rid of it because 200k miles seemed high to me.
I'll take a Frontier over anything else on the market. The previous gen was plenty comfy even without all the bells and whistles.
I appreciate car reviewers talking about reality for most people. It sure seems like a lot of car manufacturers still haven’t figured out most people can’t afford their products.
A lot of people who have a lot of money got there by making smart decisions. I am a doctor but I drive a 14 year old Honda Odyssey that I bought new. This truck is appealing to me because there is no gambling at this point. I will still probably get a used 4Runner or something next but I appreciate this truck.
True! The 4runner is the king of decent to well off people who aren't "car" people just wanting an SUV they don't have to think about - it just works.
Thank goodness for Nissan, one of the few companies that make good affordable vehicles!!!
Ehhhhhh… anything without a CVT is alright i guess. Their V6 engines have proven to be pretty reliable.
affordable yes. good... yea not so much.
I test drove the Frontier directly after driving the Tacoma, and I liked the Frontier better. It felt more solid, more grounded, and less sketchy in the front end. Add the fact that it is 5k less than the Tacoma and it wasn't a hard decision to make.
I know people said this before, This is truly the best review!!! love how you tell people how us Nissan owners feel about our trucks to people who think Nissan should add this or that.....
Finally you 2 say it like it is!!!❤❤❤❤😊😊!
Thank you so much!!!
Brad.
I just bought a 2023 P4X Premium with basically every option with 12k miles for 35k. Compared the tacoma I could have bought for the same money this is light years better.
3.8/9at is snappy, p4x headlights are fantastic, big chunky knobs for hvac and radio, no stupid 24' tvs like in the new trucks, Having driven tacomas of same era, I much perfer this.
I'm loving my purchase
This is the only truck I turn my head behind to look at, I think its super well done and looks amazing. Those side steps will have to come off though.
This and the Tacoma have angles and cuts that make them look classic. I think the frontier looks angular and flashy while the Tacoma is more rounded and less in your face. Both look great but there is definitely a preference of classic/modern style. The tacoma has been on the road a lot longer than the new frontier so it does seem one is "fresher" than the other. I personally prefer the more subtle classic truck look of the Tacoma vs the try hard in your face body effects in these newer suv's/trucks like the Frontier. What is MOST important though is the reliability of that transmission. If it is not up to the Tacoma standard the value will drop and it won't be on my shopping list.
Agreed, these actually look pretty good.
@@robob221 that’s a good point, I rented a Tacoma TRD for work and it drove awful on the highway, but in 4H it did do well on the dirt roads. Seeing the price difference in both trucks, and in my career everyone has a Tacoma, id stick with the frontier
The Tacoma sucks for anyone tall. By far one of the most uncomfortable trucks I’ve ever had to drive.
@@danielpope6498well saId
I love my FJ it’s an 07, boring engine and only a 5 speed transmission. No glitz and glamour. It’s basic, it’s reliable, and I drive it across the nation for work. So with that being said I can really appreciate the frontier being on the market.
Toyota should never have stopped making those.
35k miles on my 22 SV 4x4 and it's been great. I just made a 900+ mile drive and it was very comfortable. The V6/9 speed is smooth and has plenty of grunt, plus the hefty hydraulic steering gives it a very solid and connected feel.
Curious, what kind of hwy mpg did you get?
@@judgeman6970 I usually average 20-22 mpg on the highway, 24 if I'm really hypermiling it. On my road trip I averaged 18, that's with a lead foot at 80mph most of the way.
@@tomh507 oof! I average 18 on my road trips with a '08 Xterra
Traded my 6.2l silverado for a long-bed sv and its pretty great. Small, manuverable, fuel efficient and it doesnt lack power.
i had a 2500hd silverado.... what a lemon
@@veryrare7647 oh I still have my Duramax lol. It has the lml, I've had problems with the emissions but she ain't a lemon lol.
Doesn't it get similar mpg as the 6.2?
Its a great Truck and lineage. I had a 1987 and a 2003.. they are easy to maintain, does the job its built for. I think it looks great too.. For me as a midsize pickup.. Taco and Fronty are it.
You guys nailed it we bought a 2022 frontier for reliability & it's old school simplicity.
Also we were able to get it fully loaded for the price of a used Tacoma.
Another great video fellas: I grabbed a new (fairly base trim) Tacoma a few month back when I realized Toyota was offering 1.9% at 48 months. Same reasoning as you pointed out in this video: my priority was long term reliability, simplicity, and something I could get off the "hamster wheel" of constant changing of cars. I drove home, suited up, and with 90 miles on the odometer, fluid-filmed the entire underside (I live in the north east). It has everything I need (apple car play, adaptive cruise, etc) after owning and trying out all the latest tech, realizing most was just gimmicks that wow'd me on the test drive but two weeks in I couldn't care less about.
Would recommend trying out some other rustproofers. Fluid Film is fantastic, but it kinda washes off easily, and it's basically gone if you go through an undercarriage car wash once. CRC Marine Corrosion Inhibitor works just as well if not better, and since it's just cosmoline in a spray can, it's basically impossible to wash off and it usually lasts on the underside of a vehicle for 2-3 years before needing reapplied
@@Black-Villain i researched the hell out of it, talked to off-road guys, trucking company owners, ect and they all said fluid film. I purchased a 5-gallon can of fluid-film and the sprayer: I’ve used it for years on multiple vehicles. It’s certainly not going to wash off after one under carriage wash, but should be re-applied every fall. The first application sucks because you have to fill the frame, rockers, remove spare, skid, ect. But now I can re-apply it in 20 minutes. It’s also safe over rubber, electrical connections, ect. I won’t even touch it up this year because we got no snow last year and had no salt on the roads (first year I can say that)
I had a chance to test drive a Pro 4X this summer and I was impressed by it. At some point in the future I will buy one. The engine is plenty powerful for in town and highways/freeway drives. As for prices I see well equipped SVs in the low to mid 30s and loaded Pro 4Xs in the low to mid 40s. Maybe a bit more expensive than the Colorado but you get a solid NA V6 and lots of standard equipment.
In my Area, San Diego, Nissan was the only dealership that did not have any markups on vehicles for the past few years. Toyota had a 10k mark up and even kia across the street had a 8k mark up. I laughed at the sales guy and said you can't mark up a kia because its a kia.
"You can't mark up a Kia because...it's a Kia!" Words to live by.
Toyota Carlsbad had no markups last year when I bought a TRDOR Tacoma
I bought my ‘22 Frontier because I wanted a good ol truck that simply works. Got rid of ‘18 F150 that gave me nothing but trouble. Daily driven, off road driven and it tows a travel trailer with zero issues thus far. Favorite vehicle I’ve had in a longgg time.
The best part of this review is that you can probably just repost it in 15 years and it'll still be relevant
Surprised they did this one seeing as they did it last year when it was first refreshed. Same story.
I love my 2016 Pro4X. I've always had Nissan trucks and they have never let me down or left me stranded. Best bang for your buck.
Even tho these might be the pay the bill videos I really appreciate you guys doing them. They’re perfect for just putting on in the background while I burn the Mac-and-cheese as my toddler screams at me for not going to Arby’s.
This is not just the last in the mid size, its the last true truck, PERIOD. SImple, reliable, doesn't force futuristic features on consumers, looks good, AND great price. Some reviewers complain when trucks feel "truckish"... how about that? its a truck, its supposed to feel like a truck, and do truck things. Thats why other manufacturers are pricing their broken crap at 60k -80k, just piling on garbage on their platforms. Overengineering, overcomplicating, and the price reflects that. I hope people support Nissan, I mean they let the Titan die, which was in the same line as its smaller sibling. Toyota killed the Tacoma for me, this will most likely be my next vehicle
This is a brilliant little truck. It’s stylish, the ride is decent, the engine is powerful enough, and it’s capable enough to do some towing, hauling, and off-roading all while being practical for people to drive to work or through the Macdonald’s drive through.
I really think Nissan nailed it. I just wish it had come out a year or before it did, I would’ve snagged one up.
I got a semi loaded 2023 sv rwd (pre auto start model) I bought it specially cause it's a new truck that's old. No gimmicks. Easy to use controls. Parts compatability for years. Consumables and repairs aren't bad. The sv doesn't have the 900 dollar headlamps. It's rwd yes but for what I need it for it's perfect and I'm returning 23 mpg on 87 octane. Hauls 4 260 lb+ guys to work and does the road trip thing rather well. I love the new canyon but again for the price I trust this to make it to 10 years without major issues. And it only cost me 35k (after a discount for end of month sales) leather steering wheel. Remote start. Heated cloths seats. It's perfect. You can't eve n buy a corolla that has those for 35k and I can still tow a trailer with it. Good review. Not knocking it at all but indeed. Truck is truck and it's not trying to be something else. Oh and it's cheaper than a maverick...
I currently own a 2023 Pro 4x that I daily drive to work and occasionally haul stuff. It's a great truck for the average person who doesn't need every gewgaw the empire has to offer. I've had zero issues with it and I get around 20mpg. I love it. I do plan on coating the undercarriage myself this fall to offset the salting they do in Indiana. If you want a simple truck I recommend it 100%
Never understood the “basic” description of the Fronti. I have a 22 Pro-4X and it’s loaded with tech. And yes, I wanted to avoid turbo charged engines for longevity. But I can’t figure out why the media continues to pitch this truck as a dinosaur. It’s super quiet, great ride, lots of tech, 310hp and all for an affordable price. This thing should be an example to follow.
I've owned my 2023 Frontier for 6000 kilometers now. I really like it. Learning to lift and coast will get you 20 mpg city.
Love it...physical switches, not ridiculously expensive, a drivetrain that will probably last forever...good stuff. And they should do a Frontier Nismo and slap a supercharger on it like they used to back in the day.
I like the truck, but unfortunately the dealerships here in Canada are still treating them like limited edition Ferraris
Mine is offering a $4000 discount on a new Pro-4X. It's crazy how much location can make a difference
the perspective difference is interesting eh? in Canada, you better be prepared to be totally raped if you think of buying one of these, let alone a top model. there is no such thing as affordability with vehicles in this country. long gone.
Love my 23 Frontier. It's a simple honest truck. It's surprisingly comfortable and quiet on the highway.
Keep the V6 and I will keep buying it
This type of review, I expect, has the info & perspective that 80% of us appreciate. I don't need the nth degree of "perfection". What I do need is reliability, reasonable amenities & price. Most of the time it is best to go with the proven.
Thanks guys for providing reviews aimed at the vast majority of us.
I drove one a while back and really liked it. Interior really is kinda cheap and the back seat is far to vertical for my liking; but effort was used and it shows. Hopefully this one lasts another 10 years in the market.
It's this or the taco for me really. Both are great options, one more basic, one more complex
2020 and 2021 have the 3.8 and 9spd auto trans with the even older body style from 2005-2021 design.
I watched this review to help me love my '22 Pro 4X more... I know of all its qualities, but it lacks a few things such as comfortable back seats (yes, I tow a lot and we travel as a family so the kids complain quite a bit) and ease of use in the city (such a poor radius!). If you are a city dweller and want to use this as a daily, you'll find yourself swearing every now and then. The tranny also has room for improvement, especially between the 1st and 3rd gears as it is a bit clunky, especially when the weather is cold. As a canadian, I experience this too often between October and April. It's also a bit fragile: paint, pannels and windshield... Still, I like it and bought it as a forever truck to tow, go camping/biking, mess around in trails and travel long distance on paved roads. However, I might part with it in the near future and eventually get something more modern and comfortable for the entire family.
I just bought a 2023 Frontier SV King Cab a week ago sue to my 2013 Frontier SV King Cab being totaled. I bought my 2013 used with a 100K miles and it was the most reliable used vehicle I ever bought.
I have recently been burnded by a turbo charger failure on my wife's car, so I am avoiding them like the plague.
Not the last pickup with a V6. The Honda Ridgeline also has a naturally aspirated V6. Not body on frame though.
The Honda Ridgeline is not a truck. I own an '06. It's a MAN VAN! It's a nice vehicle, much like an Odessey with a small bed, but not really a truck truck. And the newer ones are even less of a truck. The frontier is a truck. They just need to put a manual transmission back in it!
@@whois3581😂
Ridgeline, haha. how many Ridglines do you see with lumber racks or used for working at a jobsite. it's just a unibody suv with the rear roof cut out. it competes with the maverick. light duty. try to climb a steep off road trail in the heat and you will overheat the front wheel drive transmission. Ridgeline is a good vehicle if you just need the utility of a bed but it can't compete when it comes to real work for a real working person.
Jeep Gladiator too
@@SM-og9pt Who's dumb enough to pay money for a Jeep?
You guys make me interested in any car. I hate trucks, but I want this one now. You guys are the best at your jobs in the industry
6:06 Awesome rant! Great work as always guys!
I have a2023 as a lease. It’s a truck. It works. I can get 28 mpg if I drive it calmly. Same as my 2023 Vette.
I really appreciate videos like these with a lot of honesty and real everyday appliance type vehicles. I'm looking to replace an aging luxury car with something a little more basic and reliable with the ability to still have a little fun. And the selection out there is tough without wanting to spend a fortune
Is the Gladiator not a mid-size truck that offers a naturally-aspirated V6?
Picked my fully loaded Pro4X in September of 21 and I love it. I get so many compliments on it when at the pumps.
3 things it needs…
1.telescoping steering wheel
2.better camera clarity
3. 1-2 inch lift from factory
Easy updates for Nissan to make in future years!
I got my fully loaded Pro4x in October of 22. Immediately added a 2" lift and upgraded to Cooper Rugged Trek tires. Truck looks great and I have a lot of people compliment it. It is a solid truck and drives great. People that have reviewed the truck say the steering is heavy but that is a real benefit when off road. Gets decent mileage. I am averaging 21.6 mpg over the time I have owned it.
In 2007 I bought a brand new Nissan Frontier. It was a very reliable truck. Last year I bought a brand new Nissan Frontier which appears to be exactly the same as the 2023 model. I LOVE IT, and hope it lasts me to the last of my days.
After your recent livestream, I have a lot more appreciation for how hard you guys work. Thanks for this.
Putting the vehicle up on a lift and looking at the underside makes this one of the most unique and useful channels about cars on TH-cam… keep that schtuff up!!!
Best review team in the game. Love your work, captains of industry!
I often find myself really enjoying driving my lifted first gen Sequoia. I've driven Raptors, I have an LS460 as my daily driver, I used to have an Audi A6, but there's a charm to the Sequoia (and the Tundras I cross-shopped for) that I really enjoy. They're simple machines- I know every day that I can count on my Toyota. It's cheap to insure, okay on gas, costs me nothing to maintain, it's just. easy.
It has cruise control, heated power seats, and an aftermarket radio. I don't need radar cruise control, lane keep assist, a billion cameras, or a 400hp 2 liter hybrid with an expected lifetime measured in 5 figure mileages. I'd seriously consider the frontier for the price. Something with a V6, brand new, in mid 30s to 40s? What a steal.
I like the Frontier's old-school approach. It's the last truck in the segment with an N/A V6, which is a big plus to me. The VQ V6 is about as tried and true a gas engine as there is in the industry. I think the midrange SV 4x4 makes the most sense, since you can get it for $35-40k. Why spend more than that on a midsize truck? You can get into a full size if you spend more. I have excellent credit, and would still choose this over the other options for the reasons stated above.
A family member just bought one. I drove it. I love it! They had a Frontier, 2005 (I think), they sold to s friend who coveted their original 4 wheel dive option truck.
The old truck was used by the entire family when they needed a truck to get mulch, haul stuff . The new owner of the old truck is a tradesman, a carpenter.
The new 3023 pro 4x will be used by the entire family for the same purposes: camping, gardening supplies, and getting stuff to the sailboat project. It is a truck! With great features and comfortable seating up front. I drove yesterday and picked up a friend. We went out yo lunch. We were two old ladies and we had no problem getting in or out. The controls were easy to use and the screen with the info was great. The old truck had power windows and heated seats. Rust in a few places. The new truck is modern and the camera system blew me away. Glad someone in the family bought it! And help from the owner in the back seat was not needed.
I love the heart of this and every other video you do. 'Crumbling middle class' you're not kidding. Though who wouldn't want to turn their credit score to 0 in that Hummer EV you drove and just destroy it off road.
Thank you for all the amazing content over the years Savagegeese and Savageduck!
Jack hanging out there in the passing lane for no reason - he knows how this vehicle will be used.
I bought a base frontier about a year ago. So far I love it. Seems like it’s built to last, god willing it does.
What do you mean the last NA V6? Gladiator has a port injected NA V6, manual t case, and actual axles. It’s 5 notches up on the old school ladder.
he said RELIABLE na v6
I just recently traded into the base model, a red alert S 4x4 around February, and got it for just around 30,000. With the car market as it was/is I never would have thought I would have been able to get into a 4x4 vehicle yet. My Nissan dealer had no markups on it, and I have been very happy with it. I fell in love with it for it's no-nonsense mindset and capabilities. I do have minor complaints such as the cruise control, but no regrets.
Great video, and timely for me. I have been wanting to get a mid-size truck as a replacement for my Mazda3, and honestly, this is the one that has most appealed to me. I love my Mazda ('21 turbo hatch), but from a practically perspective for what we want to do (carting the family/pets around, camping, etc.) it's ultimately been a bit limiting. When I started looking at trucks, it's easy to get sucked in to all the new ones, but I keep coming back to the Frontier as potentially the best option for all the reasons you mention. Anyway, enjoyed the video (and your long term Mazda3 one), and love the way you guys put things in perspective.
im proud of nissan for having the guts to just throw in a solid na v6, no bs just a solid platform
I rented a Frontier a few months ago. It did have like 25k miles on it but it honestly drove like the chassis was held together by tape
It was that bad? I had a 22’ it was okay. Few squeaks and rattles here and there.
@@elonsus9747 25k miles for a rental are hard miles so it could have been that but the truck drove cheap. But maybe that’s what people want is a cheap midsize truck, at the end of the day it gets you there the same
It has A Nissan VQ series engine! remember how long Nissan's VQ was in "Wards top 10 "engine awards? It's very quiet inside with double pane windows.
Interior quality has a good fit and finish, with just enough features like android auto and wireless apple car play along with wireless charging and adaptive cruise control to please people that enjoy tech.
Cool points* it also shares it's variable pressure oil pump from a GTR.
I’ve owned several small utilitarian trucks through the ages including the Dodge 50 (rebadged Mitsubishi), Isuzu PuP 4x4 (my fave of all of them), a Taco, and, well, let’s not talk about the Dakota. Anyways, knowing what I liked about small trucks (all not-so-small these days) this is the ONLY one I’d shop for in the US. Seriously. I don’t need a cream puff or a truck pretending to be a car, I want a small truck, that’s it, with buttons and knobs, proven and reliable. Nissan is the only manufacture in this segment now, which is such a sad statement.
Exactly. The equipment on this truck won’t get ruined on a job site by all the dust and crap that gets in the cabin
I bought 22 frontier sv 4×4 for 37k out the door. I pulled my 20' boat daily with ease (l'm commercial crabber), 1/2 yard gravel, 1500lb concrete on the bed was no problem and great everyday drive with respectful mileage. I'm very happy with this little truck. I will watch rusting in the future.
You guys say this frontier likely doesn’t ride as well as the new Taco. But the previous gen Taco rode awful. I mean awful. Way worse than this newish Frontier. Do you know something we don’t about the new Taco?
They do. It is now springs...besides base model.
No, it's just the never ending circle jerk of dorks and tacos. How so many think a taco is somehow so astronomically better than a frontier is beyond dumb. Nissan has always made solid trucks. I still see tons of hardbodies running around and very rarely see any of the old yota from those years. My '08 V6 manual frontier has been nothing but great, with less problems than my brother has had with his '05 taco. Yotas are great but they're also a little overrated by the constant circle jerking by morons that follow the trend and don't actually understand vehicles very well.
@@whois3581well said man!
The new 2024 Taco is getting coil springs on the rear axle, should improve ride quality a lot. My guess is the frontier has a smoother ride than the 2023 Taco though.
@@whois3581it is better. That’s why.
I bought a 2022 exactly like the one in this vid. I bought it because of all the reasons stated here. It's simple, easy to maintain, and it'll last for a long time. It's all the truck I need.
It's a great truck reliable motor. Good looking on par with the looks of the new Tacoma not sure what's not to like .
I just got one 4 days ago, love it so far and am looking forward to using it more.
I'm strongly considering this vehicle as my new truck. Turbos and four cylinders have me concerned. I want reliability and longevity.
It is direct injected so you will have to deal with carbon at some point, that's really the only failure point that comes to mind though.
@@66rollincoal Carbon buildup isn't really a failure point, just a maintenance concern in the long term. If you need to walnut blast it once every 100k miles that's not a super huge deal. That being said, since it's a newer design direct injection engine (and a truck is more likely to be under load and blow carbon deposits out before they build up) it should ideally be of minimal concern.
What gets me is that the old 4.0L was a bulletproof engine (after the SMOD issue was fixed for automatic transmissions). Made the same amount of torque (at lower RPM even), and the extra 50 horsepower in the 3.8L is made at ~1,000RPM higher (6400RPM), so you're not really getting any more usable power unless you're banging it off the rev limiter constantly, and the very meager increase in 0-60 time quantifies that pretty well. A whole new engine design for a negligible power bump and a whopping 1 MPG more than the 4.0L got with 4x4 and the 6-speed? Just adding the 9-speed probably accounts for that 1 MPG bump. The new engine only exists for reduced emissions, so at that point if you're going to trash a fantastic engine may as well go to a turbo 4 or small turbo 6 and get a boatload of torque and give some benefit to the end-user.
Do it man. I got a 2023 Frontier non pro 4x but 4x4 and I’m in love. Amazing pickup. Perfect blend of tech and utility. Rock solid and reliable.
I got one because it was the best bang for the buck, had the best safety scores of a midsize truck, and reliability.
The only thing I wish it had was port injection or at least duel injection like the Toyota’s have.
6:01 I agree with this point. Wireless phone charging pads are garbage, wireless apple carplay is unreliable, HUD’s are dim and useless, over complicated adapted suspension is a nightmare to repair, push button start and keyless entry is unnecessary, and giant hybrid batteries are expensive. Just give us a good affordable reliable vehicle that doesn’t break the bank
I had a 2008 Titan, it never let me down. Nissan makes good trucks.
How many miles do you have on it now out of curiosity?
@@mmr0221 I don't have it anymore, but it was at 150,000 when I sold it.
I own the previous generation and I am so in love with it. The simplicity and beauty of it. The interior totally free of gimmicks. Such a clean design. I will never get rid of it. May be the last ice vehicle I will ever own.
You the man Savage. I own 23’ Pro-4X, and don’t see this truck getting the credit it deserves.
LOVED my manual '98 Nissan Frontier. Gotta love those old graphics haha...Now I've got a '21 Tacoma for the exact same rationale: long-lasting, dependable, and can even resell it at a good price if needed.
I miss my old frontier. I hated it at the time, but these things keep calling me back.
Wow, you actually made the Frontier sound really appealing. Nice.
I personally love it. Would definitely buy it over the new gen Tacoma. Those V6s engines sounds great.
Good or Bad; this is the kind of vehicle that the next 2 or 3 generations of new drivers are gonna need if roads and other infrastructures crumble like the direction of our economy and bank accounts........financial advisors and economists should pay attention to this particular episode because you gentlemen are ahead of the curve......pun intended !