F250 Super Duty Tow Rig or Rock Crawler?? Let’s Find Out! - Moss Wash Trail to Gold King Mansion AZ
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 พ.ย. 2022
- It is generally assumed that a Full Size truck is ONLY for hauling or towing. But is that really accurate? It seems that the Ford F250 Super Duty has all the components for a perfect rock crawler:
Powerful V8 Engine, Sterling 10.5” Full Float Rear Axle, Factory Rear Locking Differential, Dana 60 High Pinion Front Differential with manual locking hubs, Front OX Air Locker (aftermarket), 4.30 Axle Gear Ratio, PSC Hydro Assist (aftermarket), 37” Tires (aftermarket), Fully Boxed Frame and more…
Of course... some will say it’s too LONG or too WIDE! Sure…80” body width is wide but heck a modern Jeep is 75” so you’re only talking 5” inches less than a hamburger diameter. And the wheelbase is 148” which is lengthy but a Jeep Gladiator is 137” a difference of less than a piece of paper in length.
Am I missing something?? Testing is the best method to determine! We went out to the Moss Wash OHV Trail which has a respectable “7” rating on OnX Offroad (for Jeeps).
Do you think the Super Duty qualifies as a Rock Crawler?
#truckcamper #superduty #overland
Love the Truck on trails over the side by side, the full size truck is more of a challenge. You did minimal upgrades with 37" tires on a budget, never see reviews of Ford Tremor doing trails like this. You really put it through the test.
Good point! There are not many full size trucks doing these trails. And it is certainly a challenge compared to the side by side. Crazy that our entire truck cost with modifications is less than most stock Ford Tremors. Thanks for the feedback. :)
you have a great truck build there. when i decide to change up my offroad rig, i'm gonna have to consider a super duty build!
Definitely a great rig choice!
This video definitely has some pucker factor! Great job 👏 Thanks for showing us what the 250 can do!
Haha - so true! Our suspension is setup for hauling the truck camper which makes it less flexible empty. But still fun to play on trails. Thanks for watching! :)
Nicely done! It’s good to see a full size hitting the trails. I was waiting for your drop hitch to get caught up.
Also, never stand behind a truck in lose terrain. One small rock getting launched by a tire can ruin your day or take your life.
Thanks!! Totally forgot the hitch... and it didn't hang us up too bad. We were towing our dump trailer the day before. Multi-use rig! Good reminder staying out of the danger paths. Thanks for your feedback!
It's hard to believe a truck that siE would do that........impressive set up
It is! And with limited additional bolt on parts from stock. Really surprising! Thanks for watching :)
That's impressive!!!
Right?? Not bad. :)
I've said it before and I'll say it again, spotter gets a 10/10. Love watching the SD on trails!
Agreed! Faith rocks... Glad you enjoyed it. Will share more trail adventures soon. Thanks for sharing. :)
Love it.
Thanks!! More off road adventures coming...
Love your channel and your videos. They are really helpful for a life long Toyota off-roader moving into Superduty country. Could you please explain and link up the PCS steering assist that you mentioned. When I go to their website, all I see is equipment for older fords. Thank you very much, keep up the great work….
Thanks!! Give a call to the PSC customer service... they can get the parts squared away. You'll need to ship your steering gear box to them for porting. They can send it back with the hoses and ram. They have a ram mount for the older SuperDuty but it didn't work for us with the OX locker differential cover. My buddy fabricated a mount for the steering ram. I found the Fox ATS steering stabilizer to be helpful for improving steering feel. PSC gives lots of steering boost but steering feel is a bit light or floaty by itself. We might do a video on it at some point. Hope that helps!
@@TruckCamper thank you..thank you..keep up the great work..love your videos..
Thank You for proving what I have been saying for a long time. I have one of those trucks (SC 148" gas) and love them! Great 'bang for the buck', even in '23 if shopping for a base model. Keep it up, you have a new follower!!
Absolutely is the best value and capability! Factory rear locking differential is fantastic. We have 4.30 factory gears which is a perfect match for 37s. OX front air locker gives the extra traction when needed. Lots of fun!
@@TruckCamper What did you like about the OX air locker vs. ARB? Thanks!
@@manchesterroofingsystems8016 Talk about it a bit in this video: th-cam.com/video/9irXoew6OT0/w-d-xo.html
@@manchesterroofingsystems8016 OX can be manually operated if air fails. No internal air leak issues like ARB. Better simple design. Plus comes with a HD diff cover. Been working perfectly for 3.5yrs....
@@TruckCamper Good to know thanks!
Great job guys!!
I finally got my new truck 2022 F350. So it begins....
What running boards do you have?
Awesome!! Congrats. Adventures to come... those are steel rock sliders (welded to the frame) with top plates welded on to function as steps. We have videos showing the build details. :)
That was another great video showing full size trucks can be used on some pretty Gnarly trails! What was. Your air pressure on your 37s?? Thanks for posting
Absolutely! We were at 25psi front and 20psi rear. Air down until you get some sidewall deflection and fine tune from there. With our camper off road we will do 25 front / 35 rear and keep speed under 45mph. Method wheels have bead grip which helps hold the tire on. Airing down too far results in decreased ground clearance with marginal traction gain.
@@TruckCamper AWESOME!! I think those will be my next wheels! I like the bead grip without actually running bead locks
@@johnnykoba_on_the_road Agreed. Road legal. Less weight.
Way to represent team super duty! I often get told to invest in a “real” 4x4 but I also need a tow vehicle. What bumpers you running on that beast?
Thanks!! They are Warn bumpers. Here's the build overview: th-cam.com/video/9irXoew6OT0/w-d-xo.html
that was impressive wheeling in a full size. of course truck campers vary widely in size and center of gravity, but I wonder how much of what you completed would have been possible with something like a Four Wheel Camper Hawk on a flatbed in the rear?
Thanks! We could have taken our hardside camper. But all the brush and trees add lots of character pinstripes. FWC flatbeds have much higher COG than their slide in models. It would be possible with either but slide in would be best. However their side panels are crazy thin and more likely to get dents or indentations.
Thanks for a great vid!! Did you add any skid plates? It looked like there were some sliders, but wasn't sure. In a perfect world, I would have changed suspension, lockers, skid plates, sliders, and bumpers with winches on both front and back on my F350. But, that's a ways away for me. Are yo going to build yours out more? Happy trails!
Thanks! We have stock ford gas + tcase skid. These are mostly noise makers to notify of impact no way can support the entire truck weight. Bumpers and rock sliders take most of the impacts. We have front/rear locking differentials and more.... Our truck works awesome! Been enjoying it for nearly 4 years now. Full build description: forum.expeditionportal.com/threads/2020-ford-f250-on-37s-expedition-truck-camper-build.216282/
@@TruckCamper Thanks for sharing! Awesome build!! Safe wheelin'!
I’m partial because I have a super duty so Obviously would rather see yours on the trail than a side-by-side. Just curious what is your game plan since you usually explore trails alone if you are off camber and tip over to far?
Super Duty gives more driving challenge for sure! But it is fun to get it through trails with it. We've been driving trails solo for many years. There is risk. We try to push the limits but not go too far... it's a fine line. Winch is helpful for recovery. Otherwise it might be a long walk! Generally we bring our bikes which would make getting out faster.
I broken 2 rear stock springs packs already on my 2019 f-250 4x4 crew cab from off roading & trashed bumpers both front & back
Stock springs are not designed for off road use. We have custom progressive leaf packs, coil springs and Fox 2.5" Resi shocks tuned for the weight. Steel bumpers and rock sliders are essential. Pay upfront or later... 4x4 = $x$ :)
Truck camper 😆 yes after 2 Brocken spring packs I KNOW They are made wrong, haha! Any engineers know that! Never clamp metal at both sides at the same place the no Ford spring pack (made in USA) are *OFFSET*) & ANY FABUCATER KNOW TO OFFSET! 😝 Obviously Ford either don't care or don't have FAB EXPERIENCE 💩🤣
Hello hello wanted to find out what brand of rock sliders are you using?
Custom fabricated. We have build walk through video showing more details. Check our earlier videos... :)
who and where di you get your rock sliders
Buddy fabricator built them. He's in Oregon. They are great for camper tie downs, steps and rock protection. Surprised there are few if any steel rock sliders for HD trucks on the market.
You should be locked before you attempt certain obstacles….
Correct. Sometimes it's a good idea if risky and need the traction. Otherwise it's fun to approach test and engage differentials as required.
@@TruckCamper again you should have already checked an obstacle before even trying it to decide if you should need any locker or not. Just rolling up and attempting can have consequences.
You do not have a front locker. You have lockout hubs... ver
Y different
Check out our build video:
th-cam.com/video/9irXoew6OT0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4Nbw6Xy0W2cNi0tY
OX front locker air actuated. We also have two ARB air compressors. All run through factory AUX switches