Can I Drive a Tuned Ford F-250 Super Duty to the Top of a 12,000 Mountain OFF-ROAD with a CAMPER?
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Scenery and area looks amazing. Fun video guys. Thanks.
You guys should do a video with matts off road recovery in utah
Lol. Yes
Yes
Yes hook up with him
For what? It's two completely different objectives.
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For such a big/ heavy truck it seems to be doing well
When are you doing this trip across the country using only backroads??
that is what brought me here.
The f250 needs a badass front bumper
boobacockaa Exactly!
a nice 5 posted would look sick
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It's the circumference of the tire, not its overall height, especially mounted, that dictates vehicle speed and distance. Aired down could totally account for a 1" drop in height, I bet the spedo is still slightly off.
Roman: “how’re your butt muscles”
Andre: “They are fine”
Seinfeld: “Not that there’s anything wrong with that”
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All the videos I've watched of the F-250 appear to be advertisements for aftermarket stuff. I get it, they are trying to earn a living, and I'm sure all that makes it perform better. But I don't think they've done anything that they couldn't have done with a stock truck. Maybe the OEM tires would have struggled a bit on some of the loose stuff I guess. It would have been more useful for potential owners to try this stuff before adding everything...then we'd be able to see if the expensive costs are worth it.
They're building an overland rig
Everything I’ve seen them do is possible with my stock 2018 F250 4x4. I don’t have the camper in the back and my only mod has been putting on stock size KO2s. This past weekend we were up around Ouray and took the passes from Ironton to Silverton. So far the only limiting factor has been the turning radius. Pick decent lines and use 4x4 before you get into trouble and you are fine.
@@ssgk1983 it's also possible with my 290,000 mile 5.4 f250 and I can beat it up because its a 20 year old truck
I see your point about a standard FX4 with more aggressive tyres. TFL Truck wants too show how a stock FX4 can be specced to be tackle almost anything off road, while being good looking and individual as an everyday vehicle. A lot of people like to cutomize and all the alterations on the Super Tremor are functional.
I am not convinced that 7.3 litre pushrod V8 needs an after market tune just to carry a wee camper up hills. When did you boys forget that your truck is not a 2.5 litre turbo diesel. Remember, IT IS A 7.3 Litre gas engine. 🤔
Take that frontier up there! LONG LIVE THE 4.0 Frontier!! ❤️❤️
Re gearing the axles would give you night and day difference with 37” tires. Transmission would love it too 🤘🏻
When you regear axles, do the front and rear differential ratios have to match, or can they be different?
@@GreghouseVanBouten its ok if its like 3.91 and 3.73 rear or something closer... its not ideal but ok to have a faster spinning rear gear ratio so that your rears slip... you dont really want to go the other way ... hat said, matching is best if you can afford it
@@GreghouseVanBouten You can do anything you want. If you don't want excessive wear or snappy axle shafts and yokes, you match the ratios. But be careful not to over do it, as you are technically shaving down material on your pinion gears the higher mechanical ratio you run. It's a dance between wheel torque and durability. an F-250 F-350 SRW doesn't have an issue so much as the front is a full float dana 60, and the rear is a Sterling 10.5. You can find about any ratio you want for both of those differentials. Invest in under body protection first, before anything else. Rule of thumb is, if it's old Chevy, modern Ford or Dana axles, you'll be able to find any assortment axle ratio kit for cheap, likely from a decent brand like Yukon. You can also get a lunchbox locker for the front while you're at it. Go cable or E locker for the front, as an auto locker is a pain on road for the front. Toyotas have an okay selection as well, but don't count on it being cheap. Tacomas are currently the #1 mall crawler rig right now, if you haven't noticed all of them running around in full overlanding garb with pristine paint and road worn tires. Because of that, shops that cater to that customer charge more, because they can get away with it.
@@GreghouseVanBouten only I stall matching gear sets. These people telling you otherwise are wrong and drive hondas
@@GreghouseVanBouten They MUST match, otherwise you'll destroy the transfer case or the differentials or axle shafts - maybe even all of it.
I'm loving that you guys are doing up this truck it really is a great example of what people can do with a new bodied truck
Glad to see you using Falken Wildpeaks on the F250. Been loving mine on my 06 Sierra 1500, and this is peace of mind they hold up well off road.
Andre doing his “The Sound of Music” 🤣🤣🤣
Wow great one, amazing views, good content just fun to watch. Thx TFL!
So essentially, the air down defeat for off-road is just a marketing gimmick. 30 ain't nearly low enough, especially for sand.
When he said 60 psi I was like wtf! That's a freaking bomb! Then I was expecting him to go down to at least 16 but no lol... I run my car at 21 psi constantly 😂
at 9000#, even down to 30psi got the job done. In a tough section, air down as needed.
I really enjoyed this video, very informative.
sweet build you have there! been fun to watch it come together!
those mountain roads are deceiving. visited a friend years back and 4 of us drove a rented explorer up Engineers Pass, CO. it was on my credit card and i was cursing them half way up. we ran into a 4wheel drive club at the top and they thought we were nuts. was a hell of a trip.
That looked like a great time! Well done!
ive been spending too much time in the mountains, it took me all of about two seconds to recognize where they were at
@Tim W ya I dont know the rd number but south of montezuma, I camp by what he calls poser rock
You should do some kind of offroad protection on the ford. maybe bumpers but definitely line-x or something cool. maybe just a paint protection film you recommend
you guys are living the life. good for you.
That land yacht is awesome guys! Just like it's fun seeing where you can get a little Jeep into places, it's also fun to see where you can get a "big gas" truck like that!
You guys should throw out a couple dates of places you'll be testing different stuff. As a local from Colorado, I would try to get up on some of those days!
Thanks for another great video guys! See you in the next one!
Beautiful mountain views!
I get a lot of useful info from TFL. I just bought a 21 F150 because of their info.
Hey Roman..hey Andre...lost my hydro this morning so I'm late getting here... Still watching all today's shows... Thanks guys 🌟🌟FX5!!!..Nice
Great work guys. Love the setups and the content you guys give for the heavy duty trucks. Think I'll stick with my Colorado though.
Awesome video thanks guys...
Fantastic video!
You need to learn to use FORScan. It is a software dedicated to Ford vehicles that allows you to change operating parameters. You can run it on a computer or as an app and it will allow to you to address the individual control modules in the truck. You can calibrate the tire size through FORScan. As examples, you can make the engine temperature number appear above the dashboard indicator, program the number of blinks for the lane change indicator, etc.
Outstanding job, boys.
Your best video in a long while because you really went somewhere. Poser rock was a serendipitous analogy. It's time for y'all to go explore the uncomfortable unknown.
love the blues in the background!
I can tell you right now that you'll need more than a 10klb winch to pull that F250 out of a real bog. That camper adds more weight for sure. I got my F250 bogged down to the frame, and it took a 12klb winch on a 1500 Ram, tied to a sideways 2500 Chevy as an anchor to get me out backwards. And that 12k Warn winch was struggling for sure! Didn't have an option for a snatch block.
My grandfathers Rambler could do that trail. You guys are overcomplicating a simple idea. Car camping! Hyping products few will ever use. Yeah I am a surely old man. A stock truck with a topper is all you need. Sleeping bag, cooler, and it is time to boogie. Good to go!
Yes I have F250 envy also.
Always a good time when Andre goes off-roading!
I would totally go up there in my unmodified 2008 Mazda 2 hatchback, ive been driving it on dirt roads for 12 years and offroad for about 5, just keeping my wheels on the high parts, really wish i had a small ute like a suzuki Jimny (or Samurai in US) but for now my little 1.3 Mazda is doing just fine on the road less traveled
I may have missed it, but why didn’t the speedo get updated when suspension / wheels and tires were converted?
they work on a budget just like everyone else plus its not like it was the same shop
This is the truck I'm gonna use for my pop up camper and 5x8 camping/hunting/ATV all in one trailer. Except a extender cab and 8' flatbed. Copy paste your lift and tuner. THX!!
Interesting. Def. great scenery. Nice to go to places you know so well that you are prepared for and know what to expect when working out new mods. and upgrades. Roman, Andre is correct in regards to, def. need to bring some doubling power for that winch if you think you might have to aid someone/something that is as heavy as what Andre was driving here.
What camper is that. Im loving it. Thanks for the video.
5 star got there money’s worth . How did the downhill go.
Sure is a cool truck. Would love to own one with a extended cab.
What a beautiful Truck
This video makes me miss Colorado off-roading. Hopefully one day soon I can drop in and turn some wheels with you guys again!
Looks like a great day at the office!
I've been pricing the tremors with the 7.3 gas and they aren't really that expensive. Might be time to trade the king ranch in. I've been on that trail but never got that far. Next time we'll go visit the goats 🐐
Keep up the great work guys! 💪🏼
I think both stood up well
man the whole thing is just a commercial now I remember why I scroll so much on TFLs channels
So, say someone runs 35” tires and runs the tuner at 28” or something low. Then when they sell the truck, it will only have 80% of the actual miles... seems like something the consumer should not be able to play with
Was just about to ask this question. Seems like a loop hole if the tune affects the odo as well.
A 28” tire has more revolutions per mile than a 35” tire.
@@SkeetMcRibb exactly
It must just be the guage, otherwise odo tampering??
You mean if someone runs 28's and changes it to 35's, than it will act like it's going slower
@17:10 When you showed Radical Hill, My Butt Clinched. Keep doing the Awesome Videos 👍🏾
Great video guys thanks. Wondering if you have experience with the 5star eco diesel tune? Heard from anyone who has tried it?
That scenery!!!!!!!wow, crazy you all have snow, does it totally go away, or always some year round??
What trail are they on? Their in CO yeah?
@@mbreeswine Looks like Webster Pass Rd. near Snake River, if the guys before me were right about the region being Montezuma, CO.
I use to be a logging contractor based out of my home town of Montrose, Co. I logged the entire state and even Northern New Mexico and Southwestern Wyoming. I really appreciate your no payment needed videos. I got to say, though, that the roads you guys are on really ain't nothing comparatively. We were cutting roads worse than those, and traveling to and from the mill fully loaded in a log truck! You need harder content.
Generally as a rule of thumb if you change the tire size you should also change the gear ratio to match, that would help with some of your problems.
Sure in the old days, these new trucks have so much power it really doesn't matter
You guys need to test this stuff at Kirwin Wyoming....River crossings, rock, hairpins, dropoff's, a ghost mine and plenty of Grizzlies. 2hrs to go about 9 miles. But get to the top and it's amazing. Can only go during July and August though. Springtime the river is running too fast to cross, Fall brings early snow and you want nothing to do with that road when it's slick.
You guys should put that camper on a ram power wagon as a comparison. I’ve been wondering if the power wagon would have enough payload / off road capabilities with that model trailer as a project.
Be sure to bring your buddy when going steep and deep! 🙌
Great Video, Beautiful
You need to do video showing us your camper,
open it up, would have been great up there to show us the inside.
maybe next trip.
Beautiful video with excellent videography (IMO). I love the use of the F250 as an overland rig. The entire altitude thing worries me as I stay around 800 feet above sea level, plus or minus a few hundred. I’m not really sure how you can read through the comments with so very many spelling and grammatical errors... and why are they so mean?
I just adjusted my speed on the highway with my GPS. I have TRUE 33s but entering 33s had my speed off by 3mph.
I would love for you guys to come to Wyoming and take you off-road! No acting required.
Disclaimer: 5 Star Tuning infomercial
Not like a slim wallet or squarespace commercial they are trying to plug here, or something completely unrelated. They are testing a tune for specifically for the 7.3L which is needed for their application.
“How’s your butt muscles 💪 right now” ... 😂😂😂😂 ... 👌👌.
Can't stress how important and fun it is when you go stiff and deep..VERY important!
Still waiting for tuned 5star 7.3s to upload a video on any mpg improvements claimed crusing down the highway.
Snatch blocks! 🙌
Four trucks! Nothing but the best!
DS TRUCKS yes, four trucks is better than two
theseb1979 😂🤣
Beautiful. Can you say where you picked up the trail and which path you took?
Great video; i would like to see you put it in the “sport” setting and try it again.
Superduty doesn't have a sport mode
R Shiery most do, hit your stability track button twice quickly. My 2017 has it
@@kurtmcmichael2045 🤯 thanks man, I had no idea it did that. I redact my previous statement.
R Shiery it’s a bit more of a spirited drive mode; but less traction :)
4.30 optional gears would have been preferred
It has 4.30s. Only option with the 7.3 and the tremor package.
It’s not a tremor and they opted for 3.55 gears
Willie Moreno they bought a truck last minute out of dealer stock and either didn’t know better, there wasn’t one available locally or couldn’t be bothered.
I should have just left it as it’s not a tremor 🤣🤣 as the rest was a guess
Top video 🤩💪😎👍☝️
I think my 2019 Ram 3500 Dually with my Arctic Fox 1150 could have made that climb. It’s a monster.
Most floatation size tires are .5 inches less than what the size is. (i.e. 37=36.5 brand new)
Joshua Scharfenberg - you are absolutely correct. I don’t know if most people know this or not. But judging by the comments, I’m guessing not. Lol
While realizing that all the goodies added to both the F250 and the Gladiator sure make for two incredible looking vehicles, plus add some offroad capability and cred, I can't help but think that both vehicles would have covered the same ground in this video in their factory stock form with no problem. For the average guy, these vehicles are already pretty stiff priced, even with dealer discounts and factory incentives. Add all those goodies and yikes, not to mention the bite you'll take if you ever wish to trade it in. The dealership will just laugh at you if you argue it's worth more because of those goodies. Not saying they won't mark it up considerably on resale, but you won't see much of a return on that investment in your trade dollars. And come on guys, that 1500# camper is a pittance of a load on that F250. And, center of gravity with it's low profile is a non issue.
ronald k , not sure I am following? Would you have preferred them to do all this in completely stock vehicles? Haven’t they already got hundreds of videos doing exactly that?
@@theseb1979 Nah...all I said was, for the average man and his pocketbook, the offroad capability of these two vehicles as they came from the factory is pretty darn good. What TFL has done with these two vehicles has made for great viewing, and of course given them much in the way of filming material. Would have been interesting though to see TFL traverse these same trails with these same vehicles before upgrading them.
What is the name of the trail you guys went on. I live near Denver and would like to see that place in person.
Me too!
The 7.3 is some 700 lbs lighter than the 6.7, so this excursion up the mountain should be fairly easy. Like to see the 5 star tune’s 0-60 without the camper on top. **Do a comparison video with a supercharged 7.3 vs. the 6.7**
5:26 you mean less miles...
I was gunna say the same thing. Had me questioning myself
Nope. Bigger tires make a speedometer read slower than actual and the odometer works the same. More miles per hour means more miles. For every 60 miles indicated, you actually travel 66.
Aaron Behind Bars Yeah that’s what I always figured. My truck has 4” taller tires than when I bought it
Correct you are physically going farther but the odometer reads less. Hence 66mph only reads 60mph on the speedo so naturally your odometer would read less as well
@@aaronbehindbars a guy could change some settings and drive 100k miles but sell it saying it only did 60k...
Nice!!
how does the tune effect gas mileage and towing? Next video?
Guys,..Using the tune. MPG test over a camping in the mountains weekend. Maybe an overland type camping weekend,.. just a thought
Wow, better y'all than me! I would've hit alt+f4 way early in that trip!
The views are amazing!
There's a reason the Earth Roamers are built off the Ford platform. Very capable vehicles.
I think it has to do with the already upgraded weight reduction with that ultra light premium all plastic interior.
Why did you take a truck increase the tire size, install a new suspension, and retune it for off road then do your best to show how impractical it is for off road? Looks to me it did great with the extra load, yes it's wider but it gives you some place to stay, yes it's longer, but has a kitchen, fridge, and bathroom. You brought a recovery rig that your proud can go up a rock stripped down with no load, that can't recover anything. Try enjoying what you build and focus on it's strong points and best uses.
Basically this is just a 20 minute long 5-star tuning commercial...albeit an entertaining one.
Take it through Black Bear pass! Hahaha.
Talk about butt clenching. The Steps are insane.
I've been trying to keep up with your Ford F-250 7.3, Question: In later videos it looks like you are not utilizing the 5-Star Tuner. Is this correct? I'm looking at the F-350 because of the larger rear axle and rear end. I'm also planning on the 4-wheel camper flat bed; all because of your videos. Thanks, Don
Why not? So what if its tuned, they aren't even running it hard. How about running a tuned truck up the ike at full throttle with the max weight it can tow on the back of it and watch to see if the temps don't climb...lol Now that's a good video guys! Tuned on a performance only tune since they're alot more aggressive (I'm a 5 star customer, 2019 f150 5.0 supercrew 4x4 TUNED)
Please stay tuned
Considsring most 4 wheel trailers are light weight truck campers made for 1/2 ton and midsize trucks this F250 should have NO problem carrying this camper. Especially since I hope the suspension changes should have helped their payload a bit.
You should set your tire size / spedo with a GPS unit.
Torque numbers today are impressive. 475 for a gas V8 isn't bad at all. Back in the day, the classic 6-71 Detroit Diesel produced 600 lb ft and that powered all manner of busses and big trucks. Now we have pickup truck diesels with over 1,000 lb ft.
I hate the turning radius on the trucks, my 2017 work truck needs a run way to make a U turn and it’s really annoying when most of your work are in construction zones
Does that 4Lo tune completely lock you out of 1st gear? Seems like you would really want the lowest possibly gear if you’re crawling down an obstacle.
Yeah... it always surprises me how gutless big american V8's are, I mean this thing is a freaking 7,3 litre!!
I'm used to my buddies 3,6 V6 and it's a freaking powerhouse! Always way more power available than needed
Y'all are doing that F-250 a huge injustice by not changing to 4.30 gears. The added weight and larger tires are really handicapping that 7.3
What gearing would you run with that heavy load ? 3.73?
@@raultorres4603 he already mentioned that they should change to 4.30
jjackman2032 lol
4.30 all day long on a gaser
To be fair, did you guys swap the gears to a higher numerically ratio when you put the 37" tires on? Plus, like you said, you're carrying around extra weight. Do a a show on swapping the ring & pinions out.
That is funny I think that the FX4 is for wheel drive FX5 takes into account for the spare wheel but its a nice truck i take the smaller Jeep my self fits on more trails with the midsize off road camper on it the one with a flat tray not the in bed one
How does the altitude affect the fuel injected vehicles? I know what it does to a carburetor vehicle, is it similar? And what about diesels?
As to Fuel, did you use premium or regular gas on this mountain trip?