Rabbi Tovia Singer Christianity is the easiest religion to disprove (Christianity false)
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- Singer is the founder and director of Outreach Judaism, a Jewish counter-missionary organization. It describes itself as "an international organization that responds directly to the issues raised by missionaries and cults, by exploring Judaism in contradistinction to fundamentalist Christianity." Singer cautions regarding congregations that "are designed to appear Jewish, but are actually fundamentalist Christian churches, which use traditional Jewish symbols to lure the most vulnerable of our Jewish people into their ranks." Outreach Judaism was described by J. Gordon Melton in 2002 as an example of "the current state of Jewish counter-cult activity."
Rabbi Tovia Singer wanted to understand why Jews have been persecuted throughout history so he read the New Testament and found out why they have been targeted. It appears Rabbi Tovia Singer has devoted his life to showing how the authors of the New Testament corrupted the Hebrew scriptures in the Septuagint. He shows how Paul manipulated the text just as bad as modern tv preachers to suite his gentile audience.
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Rabbi Tovia Singer shows the changing of Hebrew scripture by the New Testament authors, how they redefined the use of the Hebrew scriptures & Paul being a liar.
Rabbi Tovia Singer youtube: / @toviasinger1
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My only problem with the good Rabbi, is that if I apply the same logic to Judaism...... Im gonna end up with babylonian, Egyptian, Greek, Persian Canaanite influences. Whats original about Judaism? Even circumcision predates Israel. However i appreciate his ideas and scholarship.
@Dj The Shooter Even the Hebrew script comes from Phoenician which has its roots in even earlier forms of writing. The Nation of Israel comes into existence at the end of the bronze age not the beginning lol. Civilizations had been born and gone out of existence long before Adam was supposedly created.
@Dj The Shooter Why does he needs a source? Do you need a source that fire is hot?
This is generally accepted among scholars. The Greek script also comes from Phoenician.
I don't think it's a secret either that Baal and God have the same titles and both seems to have some 'Ashera' on his side. During Solomons time people were worshipping all kinds of gods, which were later combined to be 1. Yet traditions and rituals of these old gods were re-used. And we find the same rituals in earlier Canaanite areas. Even the pottery style is the same, which you wouldn't suspect if the Jews came from Egypt.
They were basically the same people, with the southern part adopting monotheism at some point. Which caused a civil war leading to demonizing and propaganda.
At some point they even developed their own origins story to distance themselves even further from the north.
@Dj The Shooter Rome happened to it. the same Rome that carried out the brutal murder of jesus, and destroyed the temple are for all intensive purposes the same Rome(Vatican) who were the curators of christianty for the last 2000 years. Rome killed, stole and burned , to get christianty to where it is. you dont see a conflict of interest in that?
@Dj The Shooter re read what I said, I didn't say , "creators" , I said "curators of Christianity". doesn't mean I agree with them or think there right about things
@Dj The Shooter one jew does. Her name is Margalit Zinati. She lives in the Galilee, in Peki'in and is a direct descendant of the Levite Priests in Jerusalem who fled from the Revolt against Rom and has possessions of theirs to prove it. She's nearly 90 years old and is the only Jew besides, arguably, the Samaritans and the Yemeni Jews, who can directly trace her tribal ancestry.
Also, please prove that this Yeshua existed, since you seem to be writing as though you're fishing buddies and considering no one's been able to get that done yet.... thanks.
I was a Hebrew Israelite. When I became atheist I realized why. It was a response to racism and magic narrative. I could understand the struggle and attempt of those people to survive apocalyptic times.
It's a human story.
Thanks
I never was a Hebrew Israelite, because I was born in a Jewish family, therefore, I have always been Jewish. I never became an atheist, because the communists compelled me to ridicule all other religions, while indoctrinating me into Marxism-Leninism. I like the myth, the warmth and the history of my people/religion, that allows me to practice it a la carte. Atheists have a tendency to believe that they are equal to gods. Watch Tomas Sowell on Karl Marx.
Great job debunking Christianity Rabbi. Now please, do the same for Judaism.
He won't. He won't debunk even islame.
He knows Quran 9:29, 8:12 ..etc but he still preaches that judaism and islam share the same god.
Its an apparent bigotry.
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At times I feel Tovia Singer hates Christianity more than Satan. What he hates is the fact that Messianic Jews are converting Jews to believe in Jesus Christ as the Messiah and he hates it so much.
Christians defend the Jewish Scriptures while Muslims claim it has been corrupted, yet this man loves Islam and never criticise it. All he does is to criticise Christianity.
@@stevejankins405they do, literally every Jew and Muslim thinks. You’re a nobody who’s opinion is irrelevant.
@@edward1412 yall say he hates Christianity bc he tells the truth about it yea the truth hurts I know😂
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He tells the truth? Like Jesus Christ isn’t the Messiah?
Aren’t you a Muslim? 🤣🤣🤣
He doesn’t even believe that Muhammad is a prophet. But yeah…he tells the truth because he criticises Jesus Christ. 🤣🤣🤣
Thank God there are other Jews ( believers of Yeshua) who always demolish him during debates.
Judaism is just as easy to disprove. They are really polytheists as the gods EL (Elohim) and YA (Yahweh) are different gods. The also believe in minor gods (angels) that had their own minor cults all over the Levant. Judaism went through the same process of mythification of its main characters (aka Moses) and forgery / rejigging of their sacred texts (check how the earlier prophets reinterpret failed prophecies from previous prophets). Christianity was basically the product of a Judaic sect that was trying to reinterpret a bunch of failed prophecies in view of the utter destruction brought upon Judea by the Roman Empire.
Of course the smoking gun is that the main staples in the Torah are rip off versions of Sumerian, Akkadian and Egyptian stories.
Hashem is referred to as Elohim in the plural, as a sign of respect (in English this is called "the Royal We"). Whenever Hashem is called Elohim, in the Torah, the verb is always in the singular. As in the oft repeated phrase "Va'y'daber Elohim..." - "And God spoke..." - the verb "spoke" is in the singular.
A careful investigation of the actual use of this word in the Jewish Scriptures unequivocally shows that ’Elohim, while plural in form, is singular in concept. In biblical Hebrew, many singular abstractions are expressed in the plural form, e.g., rachamim, “compassion” (Genesis 43:14, Deuteronomy 13:18); zekunim, “old age” (Genesis 21:2, 37:3, 44:20); n‘urim, “youth” (Isaiah 54:6, Psalms 127:4).
Here's example:
As in known to too many parents, when father and mother don't agree on matters of discipline, the child can always escape the rigorous demands that discipline always requires, by appealing to the other parent's mercy. When the child succeeds in this maneuver, he remains undisciplined and may often cause a battle between the gods of the household, while he walks away Scott-free.
Such is the heresy of "serving" many gods!
This will I mean may change your mind:
Rational Approach To Divine Origin of Judaism
th-cam.com/video/PEg_Oys4NkA/w-d-xo.html
Chrstianity is not a Jewish heresy. It's a Roman invention.
A man in a religious delusional bubble trying to bash another religious delusional bubble with little bits of interesting information.
Example 1 of Muslims and Jews helping Christians is by explaining why Daniel 9:26 in Tanakh Jewish scripture is not about Jesus because an anointed one is cut off from the mercy of God meaning he is punished for disobedience to God.
facebook.com/sam.voron/posts/10218660292276853
sites.google.com/site/islamandthequran/curse-of-daniel-9-24-27
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Example 2 of Muslims and Jews helping Christians is by explaining why Daniel 7:13 in Tanakh Jewish scripture is not about Jesus but about a nation.
facebook.com/sam.voron/posts/10218670162443601
sites.google.com/site/islamandthequran/son-of-man-in-daniel-7-13
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Example 3 of Muslims and Jews helping Christians is by explaining Isaiah 7:14 in Tanakh Jewish scripture is not about Jesus because the Hebrew word young women in Isaiah 7:14 was wrongly translated as virgin.
facebook.com/sam.voron/posts/10218680283056610
sites.google.com/site/islamandthequran/isaiah-7-14-explained
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Example 4 of Muslims and Jews helping Christians by explaining Psalm 40:6 in a Christian Bible (which is Psalm 40:7 in the Tanakh Jewish scripture) is not about Jesus because the Hebrew words “My ears you have opened” were wrongly replaced with the Greek words “A body you have prepared for me.”
facebook.com/sam.voron/posts/10218690865601167
sites.google.com/site/islamandthequran/psalm-40-6-explained
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Example 5 of Muslims and Jews helping Christians by explaining that Zechariah 12:10 in the Tanakh Jewish scripture is not about the death of Jesus by crucifixion but about how a loved one who is killed with a sword in the battle between Israel and Gog will move all Israel to remember God and this will bring the defeat of Gog and will bring the messianic age.
facebook.com/sam.voron/posts/10218701534547884
sites.google.com/site/islamandthequran/understanding-the-jewish-scripture-2
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Example 6 of Muslims and Jews helping Christians is explaining that the son in Isaiah 7:14 is not Jesus but is the son of Prophet Isaiah.
facebook.com/sam.voron/posts/10218714969963761
sites.google.com/site/islamandthequran/isaiah-7-14-explained
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Example 7 of Muslims and Jews helping Christians is explaining that the child Hezekiah meaning mighty God who “has been born” in Isaiah 9:5 in the Tanakh Jewish Bible was made into Jesus by writing “shall be born” in Isaiah 9:6 in Christian produced bibles
facebook.com/sam.voron/posts/10218723306412167
sites.google.com/site/islamandthequran/explain-isaiah-9-6
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Example 8 of Muslims and Jews helping Christians is explaining that Isaiah 53 in the Tanakh Jewish scripture is not about Jesus but is an explanation of the past and present and future of the children of Israel.
facebook.com/sam.voron/posts/10218733231380285
sites.google.com/site/islamandthequran/isaiah-53-explained
A man is an irreligious delusional bubble (you) trying to bash a man in a religious delusional bubble.
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We,,, are,,, misinformation.... Derek, I will continue to disprove your guests, until such time you give my work a fair review, or block me, thus doing me a favor, so I waste not any more time than I have already wasted listening to guests that purport to know.
The Bible is quite clear, “God is not a man” Nu 23:19; 1 Sa 15:29; Ho 11:9, “for He is not a man as I am” Job 9:32.
Compare
Tanakh
God is not human Nu 23:19
Nevi'im
God is not a man 1 Sa 15:29
I am God and not a man Ho 11:9
Ketuvim
For He is not man like me Job 9:32.
Whereupon might Rabbi base his presumption of God being a "Good looking man" ?
You should show people what God actually is, not show pictures of a muscular man: you are misleading people, adding confoundment to the confused, shame on you
I wash my ear to listen clearly what the rabbi is explaining. Fascinating!! So much learned!
Hello teacher's great lessons.i have a question.Jesus read from the scrolls ,at the end he quoted he came to give sight to the blind, witch is different from the Hebrew. Could it be different words but mean the same thing , For and example there's a verse ,I was blind but now I see ,I was in darkness but now I ve come into the marvelous light . So it could mean being ignorant and being thought now I know. Just my view. 🤔 Great Work.
At time signature 44:00 / 1:22:52, Rabbi Singer was about to speak his heart: important words,,, we were on the edge of our seats,,,
We would be so grateful to hear the completion of his thoughts regarding the final redemption. Thanks so much for this rich wisdom!
While I admire all these learned arguments, there remains the fact that each and every religion is euqally "easy to disprove" since not one have EVER been proven. The burden is on them in the first place.
@Abraham Mani That isn't happening at all. Talk to a doctor who works with terminal diseases, the statistics always play out. If an illness has a 40% mortality rate and you look at a large group of people then you will always see about 40% don't survive. There is no way any deity is helping people.
Religion is garbage.
Not so. Watch TH-cam videos on Lee Stobels the case for Christ. With that said many people will never believe sadly. Read the book of Matthew and ask yourself if this story is about a loving God. Then you can dig in deeper for the proof as Lee did.
@@lilbroinhawaii1 you are very biased and not very well educated. Why don't you read the Edda?
@@thephidias negative. Been around the block. Nothing makes more sense than Christianity. Proof beyond a reasonable doubt. No other religion comes close. Aloha.
As an atheist I enjoy listening to the rabbi, his explanations of the Jewish bible and his views of the New Testament are fascinating, but ultimately I feel he has an elevated view of the role of Judaism in bringing god to the rest of the world. As interesting as it all is I am still not convinced that Yahweh or any god exists. Rhetoric is not evidence.
A socratic Jesus once said: Apply not logic to other religions lest it be applied to yours. I agree with what Singer says about Xnity, but dare he apply the same intellectual rigor to Judaism?
I see more then not that atheists and other religions seems to team up against Christianity so I want to defend my faith and the Way.I am gonna give you prove that God exist and this comes from the bible.---The apostel Paul wrote in the book of Romans that God give prove that he exist through his invisible quality. So how can God expect us to believe he exist if the only thing he gives us as prove is invisible?This scripture could not have been understood without the help of scientists. Scientists studied the universe and came up with the theory of dark matter/energy. They say this energy are everywhere, that it will always exist, that it (speeds up the galaxies),that it is (invisible),that they don't know what it is, that it goes against the laws of nature and against the laws of mathematics because according to those laws the universe was by now supposed to be slowing down at least and even have started imploding in on itself but it is doing the opposite and this proves that it exist. So now let's go to Isaiah 40:22"-It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers;that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:"-So here God says that it is he that spreads out the heavens(scientists agree but call it energy who speeds up the galaxies),same thing said just different terminology used. In verse 13 of Isaiah 40 it say ----who have directed the Spirit of God,etcetera-----So we know that God does almost everything through his holy spirit which is his invisible quality, which scientists call dark matter/energy, which spreads out/speeds up the heavens/galaxies and goes against the laws of nature and against the laws of mathematics thereby proving it's existence and because it is the spirit of God it also proves that God exist.
@@brianhancock8282 he already has
Yahweh was married to Asherah so they were all polytheists
@@BQ900 Don't say this as if you have proof of it,as if it is true,come on you know that the people who teach this are lying.
That's rich, a bullshit artist calling out another bullshit artist. Why doesn't the rabbi apply the same insight into his own made-up religion?
The Deuteronomy 30 and Romans 10 comparison and contrast is huge. Christians will often attempt to use mental gymnastics to explain the contrast instead of simply accepting the text as is.
Exactly,they have to keep on fabricating things to give their lies oxygen. Madness
Ask the Rabbi tough questions about Judaism, example: 1 why does Tanakh describe a flat Earth covered with a dome and water in outer space? (Ancient Near Eastern cosmology) 2) Why does god support slavery, 3) Why does god have abortion in Numbers chapter 5 as the bitter water test? 4) why does god think rabbits chew the cud, when they actually don't chew the cud? 5) how can cutting stripes in sticks produce stripped baby goats? 6) How did Noah fit all those animals on that little boat and how did they breathe with just 1-18X18 inch window and where did he store all the food for 150 days? 7) how did god make the shadow go backwards up Ahaz's stair steps? did he stop the planet from spinning and rotate it backwards a few degrees? 8) how did god stop the sun in the sky so Joshua could get a victory, did god stop the planet from spinning to give Joshua noon time sun for an entire day? And in light of question 7 the Bible says this was a one time occurrence. 9) Why is Israel an inheritance given to Yahweh from El the most High? Isn't this polytheism? 10) Where does the Noahide concept come from, because it's not spelled out in Tanakh? Derek there is 10 good questions I doubt Tovia could answer without doing mental gymnastics, and I didn't even get into contradictions, just logical questions based on science and real cosmology.
YES! Exactly!
Let's not forget that there is literally zero evidence for the exodus.
11) kill every mother father and boys but take the virgin's for yourself?
@@G_killer_ Oh yea, forgot about that one, Moses the pedophile enabler. And lets not forget Jephthah burning his daughter as a sacrifice to Yahweh, a little human sacrifice.
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Lets's not forget that when you say something you really should stand by it. Wasn't that the actual message of that book? Don't vow to God something that you will regret?
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As a Christian, I've been warned about the Sadducees and the pharisees😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.
Good day to you Rabbi🎉😊.
What does Rabbi Tovia Singer think about "Plato and the Hebrew Bible"?
Good question, never to be answered though...
He says the prophets in the Tanakh warned against the pagan liberalism of the Hellenistic period a millenia later. This just adds credence to the hypothesis that the Tanakh was written in the early third century BCE, _during_ the Hellenistic period
It's great getting different perspectives and I'm glad you brought the rabbi on. People should know though that he brings up the concept of Deuteronomy and Romans and how he had a problem with Paul deleting the part that states it's not to difficult for you and not beyond their reach. To get the whole picture id like to point out that if you read a little further into Deuteronomy in the next chapter 31:14-30 and 32 you will find out that it was indeed hard for Israel to choose life over death. Furthermore if it is not hard or out of reach then why look for a Messiah. They clearly don't need him all they have to do is to willingly choose life. What are your thoughts?
Christianity is the easiest religion to disprove
Scientologists and mormons are very thankful for that statement
25:40 "... Sarah was _'akurah"_
That's interesting- the Arabic word for the same thing is عاقر, _'aqir(ah),_ _barren._ I've noticed that in my studies of Biblical Hebrew, that's it's basically Arabic. The similarities are so strong that often the grammar is exactly the same, and the cognate words are maybe a consonant or two different, but recognizable. Most of the difference seems to often be in the vowels. If Biblical Hebrew were written in the Arabic script, I feel like I'd be able to read it with little difficulty. Such a fun language!
The fact that nobody tells is Hebrew, Arabic Akkadian, and Aramaic are dialects of one language.
Many changes were done to pronunciation of Hebrew that made it sound very different.
@@SomeMan001 I'm an atheist, who BAALieves, that ALl(world-wide)-gRAmmAR, has its(ORIgin)-ROots, in THE(oS=SETH)-Egyptians'(only because we hAVE(documented...ie. hiEROglyphs)-pROof, of their RAvEREnce of)>SETH-RA . Even the RaMoon CATH(SETH😈)olic chURch(including ezRA+RAbbis' isRA🌞EL.....as wELl as RA-SOL's RAchaim, eRAhim & RA🌞hMAN🌜)-CONtinued WITH(SETH)-Egypt's BAALief, in SUN(RA)-SETh .
EsSENtiALly(sURAh)-sARAh, as with mARIA, was deRAived, from THE(oS=SETH-RA)-SUN .
@abraham mani I'll CON(🤑=SUN)tinue DEN(NED=SETh)ying YESH(JESH=TESH=SETH)ua, THE(oS=SETH😈)>isRA🌞EL(SUN-GOD)LIGHT🌞 . 😇
What is this? My myth is better than your myth. This is a joke.
I'm am Rosicrucian. I haven't really been involved for many years. In any event, in our Toronto Lodge, we have a neat poster which shows a timeline of significant Esoteric Movements. I believe it says that Gnosticism started in The 1 Century CE...
Your wealth of knowledge never ceases to amaze me!
lol you are just a lier and a moron
Thank you. I am one of the rare people who have read the Torah and Jeremiah and wondered about the salvation differences in the old and New Testament. This makes so much sense. Thank you so much for this particular video it makes so much sense to me. I feel set free.
It's all pagan mythology religions... just ask a Zoroastrian about how Judaism stole their religion
Exactly
@Abraham Mani he’s a myth
@Abraham Mani if you deny man written fiction, you'll be able to think for yourself.
Or how it originally started out as polytheism.
@Abraham Mani Not reading any of those comments. Man written fiction will always be man written fiction. End of discussion.
Beautiful discussion and perspectives. Thank you both.The things about assuming the perspective of a divine being is that humans are not Divine and so do not have a greater perspective. Caeayaron is very clear Divine beings are not into punishment or hurting creation, plus they respect free will. However, given consciousness creates reality then Divine beings don't have to judge us as human consciousness is such a low frequency of consciousness, we now understand existence without love. Divine beings are offering us our treasures of life, back, which we lost in Lemuria / The Garden of Eden, because human consciousness is not considered to be alive and that is why these spaces have been spaces of entropy.
@abraham mani Sorry friend that you're dumped by church.
The MythVision guy was loving this.. Smiling ear to ear thru most of it loving it 😂
Tovia Singer is the real deal
Derek, congratulations on these videos. Great job.!
@Abraham Mani Miracles don't prove Jack sht mate,,, there's healing miracles happening all around the world in Hindu temples , Buddhist monks ,. African tribes,,, it doesnt mean their religion is the true way .. Christianity is polythiest religion like Hinduism.. Hindus believe the same concept of God as Christian,, they believe one almighty (Brahma) and they believe in incarnation( Krishna , Ganesh etc ) they believe in the virgin birth Also , they just believe In 100s of persons in their Godhead ,🤔 I wonder how your conversation would go with them,,, you have to convince them that instead hundreds of god's it's only 3 ,,🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I enjoy the ways in which the Rabbi counters mistakes, misapprehensions, contradictions, and unsupported and some downright illogical conclusions that abound within Christianity. But in the end it remains clearly obvious that due to the severe lack of real evidence, he is, at best, arguing one mythology against another.
I have a huge problem with the way Christian theologians interpret the New Testament. What the Rabbi is talking about aligns more with my understanding of Christianity. I believe most of the problems of Christianity is that it is founded in some guys' interpretations of the Bible, and not in the words of Christ, Himself.
John Crane - The name of the guy is Yeshuah a jew and it was Latinized to Jesus. So we have zero words from Jesus. We have fan fiction from some greek speaking guys who made up their version of him. One can wonder why Jesus did never write a single word. So we have no idea who he was or what he did. We have just dan fiction.
They will never admit there different versions of new statements but translations this is blasphemy
@@TorianTammas happy to see people who understand it only Judaism and Islam understand that of Abrahamic faith
@@TorianTammas🤝 indeed
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I really enjoyed this!!!
Question for Rabbi on the next show: Have you seen space space odyssey 2001? And as a side comment, what is your toughts on Jesus being possibly a king/the egyptian who fleed from cruxification, from 66 AD ? Under the jewish revolts? When is the messiah status attained?
Everyone should get along no matter what you believe! Christians can’t, if you don’t believe they are done with you. Crazy people SMH
As for Rabbi Singer's contention that Judaism did not see the need to kill those who didn't think and believe as they did; Are you kidding? Ask the 30+ Nations that are decimated as Moses and Joshua rampage their way into the promised land. Israel would not tolerate an 'unseemly' and 'impure' people, being adjacent to a righteous nation as this just might tempt the Hebrews to follow THEIR ways, customs and Gods!
I always got a kick out of the showdown between Elijah and the priests of Baal depicted in the following humorous video:
th-cam.com/video/IFOTnBz-PCk/w-d-xo.html
Ah Yes! The biblical citations that back up my claim. Much appreciated leumasdiderot. Folks armed with what they believe to be, 'Gods sanction' engage in the most savage butchery in his name but only when they're POWERFUL,... - When they're weak, they love to speak about how wonderful, kind and compassionate they are.
Watch what happens to European liberalism and progressive sensibilities when the demographics shift towards Islam in certain states. Prepare to get medieval again.
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And the atheists in China thank you for providing them with the body count to prove they will dominate the world.
Congratulations...the Corona virus is God's work.
@Please Complete All Fields now here's where we may disagree. Since Christianity claims to be axiomatic with Judaism in the sense that it claims the identical God with 'new material' and ideas that dovetails onto the former, it gives the former religion the right and opportunity to expose all the reasons why the new faith is false or inconsistent with the former; I have no problem with that.
It reminds me of the joke:
"Why did God create Mormons?.... - So Christian's would know how the Jews feel".
I would agree with you if a Jew or Christian were attempting to critique Hinduism (as they're ENTIRELY different religions with completely different God concepts).
BTW, in terms of his scholarship, I think the Rabbi successfully eviscerates any notion that Jesus was the Jewish messiah (much less God) as he exposes all the intentional mistranslations, fabrications, verses taken out of context in Jewish scripture to create the appearance of Jesus fulfilling prophecy, etc.
Regardless to a specific 'compare and contrast' analysis, it (or any religion) breaks down for me when its claims and assertions don't scale to the evidence.
@Please Complete All Fields Perhaps I didn't articulate my points clearly. I don't believe in the faith claims of Judaism because, (like every other faith claim), they fall short in their burden of proof arguments, however, let's say I'm critiquing a work of fiction (Harry Potter, for example) and in Harry Potter certain mystical concepts and ideas are presented by the author as truthful in the fictional world she has created. [i.e., Character A made a magic purple cupcake all by himself without help from ANYONE.]
If, many years later, a new author comes along who is attracted to the original story and writes "Harry Potter Part 2" making the claim that it's simply a continuation of the first, it makes itself vulnerable to valid criticism if and when the 'new' book presents concepts and ideas that expose serious conflicts with the original, especially if the new material, 'changes', 'distorts' or invents new material that he claims seamlessly fits into the original author's vision.
[Remember when Character A made a magic purple cupcake, all by himself? Well, don't believe him, he relied on character B to help him out].
In this way, a conflict and contradiction has been exposed that is difficult to reconcile.
Regardless of whether or not you and I believe the original story is a work of fiction or not, we can still compare, contrast and evaluate the content and claims of both bodies of literature (for plot holes and internal contradictions) ESPECIALLY when the new story is claiming to simply be a continuation of the first (this is what makes it axiomatic).
Of course, you're welcome to listen to any one of the Rabbi's 24 part audio series to determine if he's not being fair in his 'compare and contrast' analysis. I listened to them all several years ago and found his arguments to be sound and compelling from a scholarly perspective. Does this mean I believe the Jewish theistic claims are true? NO, - just that the Christian claims do not dovetail onto the first theology for many, many reasons too numerous to mention in a casual conversational exchange on TH-cam.
All the arguments are presented for free on this website if you really have any interest in assessing the fairness and integrity of his methodology.
outreachjudaism.org/lets-get-biblical-audio-series/
@leumasdiderot Video: Why would God commanded Joshua to wipe out everyone in Canaan? Rabbi Tovia Singer responds.
th-cam.com/video/brLEMgyNo_k/w-d-xo.html
A great discussion and I don't dispute Rabbi Singer's scholarship that points to all the, 'non-kosher' ingredients that went into the Christian porridge. However, the Rabbi conveniently fails to acknowledge all the alien notions that likewise finds it's way into the Jewish faith.
TL;DR ☆☆ Warning:
For example, what was the
Persian influence on Judaism?
Persians conquered Judea 539-332 B.C.
The conquering nation tears the most learned thought leaders away from Jerusalem and allow them to become subjects of the empire and preserve their religious beliefs/identity. To those who believe Jews would NEVER permit alien ideas to influence their religious conceptions, think again. Prior to their exposure to the Persian religion, Zoroastrianism, there was no Good vs. Evil duality, (where God was engaged in a conflict against disobedient, malevolent forces) in Jewish writings,... - no defined Heaven or hell concept after life ended - it just ended. No dramatic, end time conflict where dark powers array themselves against the forces of light,... where good prevails over evil ushering in the promise of a MESSIANIC era, in which things are 'set right' and peace and harmony is restored and God reigns supreme. There was no resurrection of the dead belief where the neshema (soul) is restored to its physical body and where the holy temple is also physically restored (along with the resumption of the sacrificial system). These new conceptions were all the pungent flavorings of Zoroastrianism grafted onto and mixed into the porridge of Jewish theological ideas. But wait! The religious recipe was far from being fully baked,... more ingredients were yet to be added to the cake mix. You see, the Greeks conquer Judea in 332 - 110 B.C.E. and then, the Romans conquer Judea after them (63 B.C. - 636 A.D.). Indeed, we find in Judaism, a veritable smorgasbord of supernatural ponderings that shaped, and guided and influenced Jewish ideas about their God and the world to come and through the lens of this historical context, I find myself becoming aware of an unsettling truth.
God did not deliver fixed Jewish theological positions in the form of a singular clearly defined holy dispatch from, on high. Not at all. These ideas, evolved OVER TIME! They too were formed & shaped, not by God, but by MEN whose ideas were formed and shaped by all the theological ruminations Jewish thought leaders were exposed to in the great cauldron of speculative supernatural splendor that animates the human imagination. Those who think the secret recipe was provided complements of a singular God at a singular moment in history (on Mount Sinai) have hid their faces from historical reality. The religion evolved and religious ideas, rather resembled a highly malleable piece of clay, shaped, pressed, stretched and rolled under the powerful ideas God pondering editors encountered in all the different places they find themselves marinating in.
The proof of this is found in all the different cupcakes on offer in the biblical bakery of belief. In Judaism, we find the Essenes, Kairites, Sadducees and Pharisees... early Christianity (Ebionites) were not some hermetically sealed theological entity separated from Judaism, -not at all, early Christianity IS JUDAISM. They (like their messiah) were Jews and, as Jews, they embraced their Jewish identities, observed their Jewish holidays and observed Jewish laws ... just with new, updated insights that encompassed their exposure to ideas that evolved to include a syncretism of the God ideas they found themselves swimming in. And, surprise, surprise, we find in this early Jewish sect, surrounding the person of Yeshuah, a range of different beliefs as they sought to define meanings and get a sense of who and what they were and what they stood for... different Jewish communities that followed Yeshuah embrace different testimonies -(as many a 40 or more) before the disparate ideas were distilled into a more consolidated view through the efforts of the Pagan Roman emperor, Constantine. These later iterations would dismantle much of its earlier, Jewish theological doctrine in favor of more palatable ingredients (found in the Roman theological pantries) provoking Rabbi Singer's sentiment that, "Rome didn't convert to Christianity, Christianity converted to Rome!" And, at this point, the point when the new Jewish sect had morphed into a religion where many ideas central to the Jewish faith (like the oneness of God) was removed, the Jewish people by and large removed themselves from it, rejecting, by and large, the new theology that became, theologically speaking, a bridge too far as the Church moved on to focus on a much larger target, gentile subscriptions.
The reality of the, very mortal processing of religious ideas is lost to believers who embrace their stories at close range but for those who are not tethered by deep emotional restraints, who are free to pull back and view the subject at a revealing distance and altitude, from these vantage points, the full spectrum of historical context (with all their influences) is exposed; we can more easily 'see' and tease out all the threads, connections, and engagement with the 'outside' world, we can see more clearly all the ideas and influences that are added to the mix with a type of clinical objectivity fundamentalism, (including Rabbi Singer) is not permitted to acknowledge.
And BTW, I love Rabbi Singer.👈💕
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@David Tucker I could no more disprove Jesus any more than I could disprove Fairies, Gnomes, and Elves. All supernatural suppositions reside in that protected sweet spot of being both unprovable and unfalsifiable. I was, however, curious enough to take a deep dive into the Christian claims, having read several apologetic books including, "Evidence that Demands a Verdict" by Josh McDowell and, "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel (in addition to many debates and discussions on the TH-cam platform).
Christian's, on the other hand, generally steer clear of any thoughtful challenges to their faith claims, so I'm gonna guess you never listened to a single one of Rabbi Singers 24 part, "Let's Get Biblical" audio series; essentially, the Jewish response to the Christian missionaries. - I listened to the entire series.
Using only the bible as his source material, he completely eviscerates the Christian case, so if you're 'truly' interested in understanding why the Jews rejected Jesus (from a true scholar) instead of bantering with this armchair philosopher I suggest you check it out:
outreachjudaism.org/lets-get-biblical-audio-series/
@David Tucker
If you don't think and believe what I think and believe, you must be lying. This has been the view of every subscriber to one brand of theism about every 'OTHER' brand of theism since men first started making them up. 🤣
@David Tucker you should reread sacred verses from the Holy Koran, for when you do the spirit will do more than sow seed. Or,...
you should reread sacred verses from the Bhagavad Gita, (Hinduism) for when you do the spirit will do more than sow seed. Or,...
you should reread sacred verses from the Tripitakas (Buddhism) for when you do the spirit will do more than sow seed. Or,...
you should reread sacred verses from the Book of Mormon, for when you do the spirit will do more than sow seed. Or,...
you should reread sacred verses from the Guru Granth Sahib (Sikhism) for when you do the spirit will do more than sow seed. Or,...
you should reread sacred verses from the Mishna Torah, (Judaism) for when you do the spirit will do more than sow seed.
C'mon Dave! Where we going here? I already told you I read much of Christian apologetics, and Tovia Singer's 24 part rational exposure of intentional Christian mistranslations, distortions, contradictions, fabrications, and taking things out of context from Jewish scripture in order to create a new mythology, confirmed it was fraudulent. Your solution? Read it again.
Look, I'm happy you derive meaning and purpose from these stories, but I went on a much deeper dive than most ever do but, at the end of the day (analysis), Christianity gets added to the scrap pile of 1,000 other deistic notions (999 of which, we BOTH agree are completely made up).
@David Tucker"required change into something impossible for any man to do". I'm not sure I understand? Who was requiring you to change? What is impossible for any man to do? I think we may be dealing with some manufactured misconceptions here but I'm not quite sure? 🤔
@David Tucker David, are you referring to the below scripture? If so shouldn't this have happened in the 1st century? Not trying to pile on but this seems like a clear reference to events that should have happened in the past.
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+16%3A27-28&version=NIV
This Rabbi really knows a lot. He just doesn't know that his religion is not different.
Oh... but he believes it. It must be true!
I'd like to hear this guy discuss the NT satan vs. Genesis serpent, Job satan, unclean spirits, king of Tyre.
Seems to me Satan appears abruptly in Gospels, as a figure needed to distinguish canon Christianity from gnostic christianity.
Even the "Satan" of the gospels is nothing like what Christians of today think.
Christianity is cobblers, but sorry, so is Judaism.
Derek, my jaw dropped when you said Rabbi Singer claimed that human sacrifice was an abomination in the Old Testament. "Sanctify unto me all the firstborn, whosoever openeth the womb among the children of Israel, both of man and of beast: it is mine" (Exod. 13:2). Weasely apologists claim this means that the children were consecrated to the service of God, but that is baloney. How do we know that? Because God says so: "Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgements whereby they should not live; And I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they caused to pass through the fire all that openeth the womb, that I might make them desolate, to the end that they might know that I am the Lord" (Ezek. 20:25-26).
@David Tucker Nonsequitur. Why not address the issue?
Wandering in the desert for 40yrs is totally believable 🙂
You have suck a weak mind if you take such an extremely deep torah and take it purely at its face meaning! If gods word and secrets would all be spoon fed to people like you NO ONE would grow........:
@@mce3210 Yeah religious nutjobs are so known for their growth😆 Us weak minded people who dont believe in Santa Clause should really read into the deeper meaning, unlike fanatics like u whom I'm sure dont take anything in a 2000yr old fiction book literally. And stop building illegal settlements jerk.
Nathan Worthington looks like I hit a nerve.... lamictal works for that.
@@mce3210 What do u prescribe for delusions? Cause u should up your dosage. #Palestine4ever🙂🙂🙂
Nathan Worthington 🤔 not sure if those sentences you wrote make any sense but okay..... and Palestine my tuchis!
Eye opening show...I liked how you bringing the truth covered in the dust of myths.
I'm glad life is short. Otherwise these debates would go on forever. Have mercy on us.
I like listening to Rabbi Tovia, he really exposes the dishonesty of the early church in terms of misquoting and messing up the format of the Hebrew Bible when it was integrated into the Christian Bible.
I had a heart for the Jewish people from Childhood. My Gran was Jewish. Tovia Singer with his Hatred and Scorn for Christianity that he lumps together with Catholisim and Mary Worship has destroyed my heart for the Jewish people and him with his Scornful ways.
I'm sorry but he is just as dishonest. Don't fall for it.
@@wordwordful That seems silly that you would allow yourself to be bothered by one person. You can find hatred anywhere. I'm an atheist myself but I don't hate Christians or Jews or Muslims. I just find the concept of God illogical.
@abraham mani If there truly is a God this evil I would prefer to go to hell.
What you call "Christianity" is not Christianity. It is protestantism which is a false and satanic abomination.
It's nice to hear about Christianity in its context. But Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are all departures from what Celsus calls the Eternal Doctrine, meaning all of the native religions of the world's nations, i.e. Hinduism, Shinto, Romuva, Hellenism, Khemetism, etc. All Abrahamic traditions are impious departures of this kind.
@Abraham Mani Might be a similar reason such exorcisms have been able to be performed by all previous cultures' holy people as well. Except the difference is that those faiths are actually legitimate native traditions, as opposed to a foreign imposter religion.
@Abraham Mani why copy and past 2000 times
Jeremiah 2:37 says:
“From this place also you will go out with your hands on your head;
for the LORD has rejected those in whom you trust, and you will not
prosper with them.”
You got me with the Led Zeppelin concert tickets. You're right, I'd do just about anything for that reward.
@Abraham Mani If you were trying to comminucate with me, I did not receive it. The contents of the text message were not coherent. Please try again.
I hope to attend the 1969 Woodstock concert , as it was, at the resurrection. I didn't make it to Bethel, NY that weekend because of the tie up on the Interstate and the heavy rains.@Monster in Head
Are they still alive??
No religion can be disproved
because no religion can be proved
Then you dont exist then,!!!! mobile fons, internet dont exist either !!!if creators dont exist....nothing comes out of nothing😂😂😂😂
@@bhumane8178
What a funny logic 😁
My past family was Jewish, I was an atheist and rejected the book, and then i had a personnel revelation. God called me. Logic and faith are two different things. He did not call me to become a Jew. He called me to Christ.
I have yet to hear of anything similar in jewdaism or Islam but have spoken to many like myself. Hallelujah. Shalom Shalom.
Do you have any thoughts about the lunar Sabbath please
The Lunar sabbath was invented by gentiles who launched the Hebrew roots movement. The Sabbath is recognized by ALL Jews worldwide because it was agreed upon from our sages (THE MEN OF THE GREAT ASSEMBLY) when they came up with OUR calendar
on 572 i wanna express my gratitude! God bless you Rabbi Singer!
@abraham mani please consider that the catastrophe of the destruction of 2nd temple and Bar Kochbananen was caused by Daniels gals predictions of a comming messiah who will liberate and Blabla. This caused the believe of the Jews that they should fight the Romans after the „Seven Week“. It turned out to be a big misunderstanding and finally tha Flavians thought, they were „the Massiah“ according to the predictions. What a grotesk nightmare they brought on the Jewish people. Everyone who claims to know „gods plan“ is a pretentious imposter In every religion and a menace to society!
Thank yoou, Rabbi Tovia and Derek. As usual, Rabbi, you bring clarity to whatever toopic you are addressing. We so appreciate the time you take to study and teach us Torah Truth. And you, Derek, ask good questiions!
33:18 this section is so rich with information on the evolution of Christian theology, it’s incredible.
Good stuff.. Love the diversity in your content. You have a great variety of guest! I'm still a Dr. Bob fanboy...😂😂
HAPPY EASTER dear Christians...Jesus Christ is risen HALLELUJAH....The Gospel of good news is being preached all over the world..... this command we received AFTER the ressurection of Jesus
jesus hasn't risen and the gospel are false narratives, not the words of GD, therefore rendering it mute and meaningless@The Righteous Right Hand
@@jessedylan6162 Yeshua commanded us to take the Tanakh to the whole world....the whole world now worships the great God of Abraham, God of Isaac God of Jacob.
@@therighteousrighthand The dead carpenter, jesus, is NOT a deity to be worshiped=idolatry and blasphemy. You've got it all WRONG..Nowhere in Tanakh is he alluded to as messiah or a deity.NOWHERE. Only in the fake news book, new testament, is he so described. You've been deceived and lied to. Sorry, but you're wrong.
@@therighteousrighthand He "commanded" nothing of the sorts..where are you getting your information from? Not from Tanakh, that's for sure.
@@therighteousrighthand Man alive, how wrong you've been taught, just unbelievable gullible nonsense.
Although I agree with Tovia a lot regarding Xtrianity, I'm disappointed whenever I come across educated intelligent people who still believe ancient mythologies. Oh well, I guess intelligence and education do not always inoculate the superstitious and believing mind. 🤷♂️
While I agree with the general sentiment (he lost me when he said Adam lived for 930 years... really? -_-), everyone has irrational beliefs. The Amazing Atheist has expressed a belief in lucky numbers and seeing repeating numbers which he fully admits is irrational. My atheist boyfriend has had experiences he still believes may have been with spirits. So no, intelligence and education do not inoculate from irrational and even superstitious beliefs because everyone has them. It's evolutionary and part of what makes us human.
@Abraham Mani Oh, are you from Greece? I worship the Greek Gods. I never had any experiences with Jesus or his daddy. But the Greek and Egyptian Gods have been amazing in my experience. I'd love to go to Thessaloniki. I believe the Hellenists have a temple there.
@Abraham Mani mythology
@Abraham Mani He was also following a common trope. Yahweh isn't real.
"When we say…Jesus Christ…was produced without sexual union, and was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended to heaven, ***we propound nothing new or different*** *from what you believe regarding those whom you call Sons of God. [In fact]…if anybody objects that [Jesus] was crucified, this is in* ***common*** *with the sons of Zeus (as you call them) who suffered, as previously listed [he listed Dionysus, Hercules, and Asclepius].* Since their fatal sufferings are all narrated as not similar but different, so his unique passion should not seem to be any worse."
*Note how Justin (Martyr) is less of a fool than modern Christian apologists. He admits that differences don’t matter.* Since each and every one of the suffering and dying gods are slain by different means, one cannot argue the mytheme requires exactly the same means of death. “But Osiris can’t have inspired the Jesus myth because Osiris wasn’t nailed to a cross” is a stupid argument. The mytheme is simply death. Being killed. Suffering and dying. The exact mode of death can vary freely. It makes no difference to the existence and influence of the mytheme. It’s simply the particular instantiation of a generic abstraction. *And Justin’s argument (that Satan invented these fake religions to confuse people) entails Justin agreed the mytheme existed: indeed, it was demonically promulgated, multiple times. Intentionally.*
*Likewise, Justin notices the mytheme is not virgin birth, but sexless conception. Of which many examples had already been popularized in pagan mythology (there just happens to also have been examples of actual virgin born gods as well). And by his argument (that the Devil was deliberately emulating the Jesus mytheme, in advance), Justin clearly accepted the same principle for “rising again” after death:* the particular exact metaphysics of the resurrection could, like the exact method of death or conception, vary freely. The mytheme consists solely of the abstraction: returning to life. Somehow. Some way. We will say bodily, at the very least. But what sort of body (the same one, a new one, a mortal one, an immortal one), didn’t matter. *If it had, Justin would have made the argument that “those gods” weren’t really resurrected. But that argument, never occurs to him. Nor did it to any other apologist of the first three centuries.*
*Ancient Christians well knew there was nothing new about their dying-and-rising god. Not in respect to the mytheme.* Their claims were solely that his particular instantiation of it was better, and the only one that actually happened. *They didn’t make up the stupid modern arguments that dying-and-rising god myths didn’t exist or weren’t part of a common mytheme everyone knew about. For example, in the same century, Tertullian, in Prescription against Heretics 40, makes exactly the same argument as Justin. Funny that. They had better access to the evidence than we do. They knew what was really and widely the case. We should listen to them.*
Google *"Dying-and-Rising Gods: It's Pagan, Guys. Get Over It. • Richard Carrier"*
Google *"Ehrman Errs: Yes, Bart, There Were Dying & Rising Gods - atheologica"*
Watch *"Dying & Rising Gods: A Response to William Lane Craig"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica.
Google *"Virgin Birth: It's Pagan, Guys. Get Over It. • Richard Carrier"*
Google *"5 Pagan Parallels to Jesus That Actually Aren’t Bullshit - Atheomedy"*
Google *"Christian Apologetics: The Art of Deceit - Atheomedy"*
Google *"Defending the Resurrection: It’s Easy if You Lie! - Atheomedy"*
There's always a smug atheist all too willing to believe he's a Mensa-level IQ just because he claps along to Dawkins like a seal and watches Rick & Morty
A mythicist debunks myths. Well done.
Whos voice is that? Who sounds exactly tovia singer? It's a guy on tv i think. BERNIE SANDERS. He sounds just like Bernie
I love the Rabbi and I’ve learned a lot about Christianity, ironically, from him. However, he suffers from the same affliction as a Christian apologist when it comes to Judaism. There were several examples in this discussion but to use Holocaust survivors returning to Israel as an example of God keeping his promise to his people……all I can say is, oy vey! 🤦♂️
Agreed, its unfathomable to me how those who can so easily identify the falsity of opposing belief's, have a complete mental block regarding their own. Cognitive dissonance is rife amongst theists.
Hebrews have always worshipped the Cannanite Pantheon El Elyon ,Asherah and Baal who was just a counterpart of the Mesopotamin G-d Marduk .The tetragramatton deity emerged as a southern Cannanite metalurgy deity .Judaism is a mixture of Summerian ,Cannanite and with certain ancient Hebrew sects Zorastrianism .Monotheism emerged from polytheism .
@Abraham Mani Was that before or after you took your meds?
@Abraham Mani Thanks Mani but I am doing fine. Take care of yourself.
Have you read the Elephantine papryi? It's eye opening to show Jews worshipped Asherah/Anat right next to Yahweh and even celebrated passover.
Goodnight Johnboy
@@ninam.6781 Hebrew is Phoenician Canaanite and it is also a dialect of the ancient Arabian language of which modern Arabic is descended from. All languages change over time and hebrew is no exception. In 3500 years time into the future, hebrew will be completely different than it is today.
Mr.Rabbi what's your opinions about islam you have a any program for the Muslims
Exactly what’s this fellows name ?
The fact that the “Magi” showed up is clear Zoroastrianism had an influence on Christianity. If I say Cleric you know it’s Islam, Priest would be Christian, Magi is clearly Zoroastrian.
@@gustavmahler1466 According to one story, it's fiction, the religion wasn't. It's like saying that when Billie Graham was born the Pope visited to bless him, hence stealing credibility from Catholicism. It's all Roman propaganda, and Rome needed unity.
Cleric isnt Islam. Why are you all so ignorant about Islam?
It is IMAM to Islam.
For entertainment, Mr. Singer's ad hoc "arguments" can't be beat. Good for chuckle, and maybe a wink.
Nice to see these two together again. Let's get the Rabbi to Adress Joseph Atwell's Theory!!!!!!!
I'm not a Christian but doesn't kabbalah go into the a three that is one?
Citation: Soncino Zohar, Shemoth, Raya Mehemna, Page 43b
New subscriber here! The observed logical fallacies within Christianity were the initial steps upon a lonely path that led me to places such as your channel. Thank you for the amazing content. If you could point me in the direction of where I could further understand how/why the NT was added to the Hebrew Bible. Roman invention? Jewish suppression? Still in search for the truth on this one...
@Abraham Mani you believe? That’s just simply wrong. Iesus is a Greco-Roman mythologized character to suppress Jewish mysticism who violently revolted against the Roman Empire.
@KON3110 yes there is. It’s what you Christians hijacked and referred to as the “Old Testament”. The foundation on which the Christian faith was built exposed Christianity as a lie:
@Abraham Mani you’re cherry picking and misinterpreting the Hebrew Scriptures. The Jewish faith is correct in context of messianic prophecy - you are wrong. Your religious is inspired by Hebrew myth though your doctrine is additionally built upon pagan influence. It’s false. Conversation over.
@Abraham Mani “demon possessed and sick people”. These are very generalized ideas. Most of which should be addressed with real science - mental illness is a real problem not an issue caused by superstitious idiocy.
his name isn’t Jesus (it’s Iesus). There is no prophecy of a second coming. There is no prophecy of a virgin birth, rather, the messiah is prophesied as a familial descendent of King David.
The Messiah is to bring global peace recognizing the Hebrew God as the true god - this has never happened, more wars have been fought, innocence slaughtered, indigenous enslaved on behalf of the Christian God.
There are many more.
In addition, Deuteronomy 24:16 completely destroys the premise of the Christian Bible.
I am entertaining the Christian Bible as literally true which, evidently, it’s not.
Daniel (if he existed) would have followed the false prophet commands in Deuteronomy 13. The Jewish people were very religious, steeped in mysticism which is why they did not get along with the Roman Empire,m who was empirical force that spit in the face of the Jewish faith - Iesus is a character in a Greco-Roman composed storybook who does not meet ALL prophecies in the Hebrew Bible. Of course they reject him.
always interesting to hear you speak Tovia.
I agree. Thank you, Rabbi.
@abraham mani If you were trying to comminucate with me, I did not receive it. The contents of the text message were not coherent. Please try again.
Why did no son of David physically sit on the throne in the second Temple?
Every time I hear “weeee are…” in my head I finish it with “groot”
Very interesting. A very intelligent conversation, and really eye opening or should be anyways, to Christians who still think they're god is the same god as the god of the jews....so obviously not the case. Rabbi Tovia is great to listen to, well read and well spoken, but I do find it strange that he still believes in a god based on no good convincing evidence. He speaks of god and the fact that there is a heaven and a hell as if he actually knows this to be true, when the truth is, no one knows. And I also find it interesting how near the end he talks about god being faithful to the Jews after the holocaust....I wanted so badly to ask him, where was god during the holocaust? Why did god allow 11 million Jews to be brutally murdered? What kind of loving and all powerful god would allow 11 million of his "chosen people" to die so terribly? Opportunity missed indeed! Great talk though!
Why is it a suprise for you? In Tovia Singers religion he is a chosen one and the hero xD You and all other gentiles are just goyim. Thats why Tovia Singer believes his religion to be true. Otherwise he was just an ordinary man. Nothing special. Tovia Singer is like a muslim who bashes on Christianity but still believes everything about Muhammad and Allah. ^^ Very funny: In the distant past: El and Yahwe were not even considered one deity. They were 2 different gods of one hebrew/canaanite pantheon. Singer considers Christianity as man made nonsense but doesnt say the same truth about his religion Judaism who took mystical stories from other people as well eg from Indo-Aryans and their Vedic texts (eg Noah was known as Manu in vedic texts as progenitor of mankind and Manu is related to Mannus in ancient germanic religion there he is too a progenitor of mankind, a reoccuring mystical figure among Indo-Europeans) , from Sumerians, Assyrians and Akkdians and their texts about Annunaki gods (in those texts it was described that man was made with mud... ), from ancient egyptians and their texts..... All abrahamic religions were man made and refer to other religions. Its not happening only in Christianity.
I really admire Rabbi Singer for the depth of his knowledge of Christianity. I also admire the connection between the interlocutors on this program. (Secretly envy their friendship!)😁
@abrahammani-3445Riiiiight....
Until the Rosetta Stone was deciphered at the
beginning of the nineteenth century, historians believed
that the Israelites had really spent hundreds of years in
Egypt, becoming enslaved until Moses led them on a
great Exodus to the land of the Canaanites.
As they began to use the Rosetta Stone to help
translate the numerous Egyptian records from the Late
Bronze Age, Egyptologists were amazed to find there
was no evidence that the Israelites had ever been in
Egypt, and no evidence of a great, biblical Exodus of
slaves. As the real history of the Israelites as native
Canaanites began to unfold, historians were forced to
the conclusion that the stories of Joseph and his
brothers were myths and that the entire story of the
sojourn in Egypt, the biblical Exodus and the conquest
of the Canaanite cities was a national foundation myth
-a mere fictional story.
My only problem with Rabbi Singer's defence of Judaism is that I still need to believe in god.
Thank you for having him back on your show. I sent him an email, saying I hope you are going to be on your show a few days ago. I doubt he saw it, but either way my prayers 🙏 were answered on being your guest again.
His knowledge of the Bible is amazing and I watch as many of his videos as I can. I watch a bunch of yours as well. He does his best to teach and show people what is said in tenach. I even defended him on some other persons video on TH-cam saying he was a threat to a Jew for Jesus. How this guy was saying all this of how Jesus is all over the old Testament. Anyway a pleasure to watch you both talk and I pray 🙏 you both are safe and his and your listeners and families get out of this virus to do more shows in the future. God bless. Also I loved how he brought up David Gilmour and Jimmy Page and Led Zeppelin. Gilmour is my favorite guitarist of all time.
Madman Mark,
Lol, Is your satanic hero Aleister Crowley too lol,
Devil worshippers hey give Madonna a call I hear she is into Kabbalah...maybe she can send a few wrist bands lol. Satan and his minions....
@@johnb1877 oh you are funny a regular riot. Don't give up your day job,and moonlight doing comedy.
CONtinue pRAying fER(RA🌞bbi)-miRAcles...it'll GOTt-u🌞NUThin, but fAIRY-tAILS🍻 . 🤩
Thank you for having Rabbi Tovia Singer, he is a treasure! I have learned a lot from him.
Until the Rosetta Stone was deciphered at the
beginning of the nineteenth century, historians believed
that the Israelites had really spent hundreds of years in
Egypt, becoming enslaved until Moses led them on a
great Exodus to the land of the Canaanites.
As they began to use the Rosetta Stone to help
translate the numerous Egyptian records from the Late
Bronze Age, Egyptologists were amazed to find there
was no evidence that the Israelites had ever been in
Egypt, and no evidence of a great, biblical Exodus of
slaves. As the real history of the Israelites as native
Canaanites began to unfold, historians were forced to
the conclusion that the stories of Joseph and his
brothers were myths and that the entire story of the
sojourn in Egypt, the biblical Exodus and the conquest
of the Canaanite cities was a national foundation myth
-a mere fictional story.
Yes
Me too 🙏📕
From Minnesota
@@shira1270 and the story of the dead carpenter, jesus, is also myth and fable.
@@shira1270
Not from what I've read over the last 6 months so I see the typical for and against arguments are held by either side.
The Revelation of Jesus tells of things to come that have actually materialized. Good is evil and evil is good today.
Has that always been true? It could be, but there is that part about delusion, a great delusion, that seems to be very much a part of what we are seeing and probably have never seen on a scale this large.
Butchering and chemically castrating young people like the child sacrifices of the days before Jesus are becoming more acceptable. Fifty million abortions a year worldwide are children sacrificed on the alter of self love.
This is truly not a good thing when the most vulnerable are created and discarded in the name of lust and freedom of choice.
We are entering another epic threat of world wide communism preceded by socialism by not nearly as much time as previously and that is going to be accompanied by even greater numbers of deaths from starvation and executions for being against the "State".
Are you sure you want to champion something that will soon see you as an expendable commodity of useless eaters by the new leaders?
Unless you have something better to offer them, don't count on your life being worth anything more than the others they will slaughter in mass graves.
@abraham mani I usually just count on my rabbit's foot.
So many heart-felt comments from all sides. Lots to think about. First decide what really matters to you.
Then who was the one spoken in the tanakh in the visions where one was seated on the throne that looked like a son of man?
bruh Gilead sacrified his daughter right? Abraham and Isaac right?
I wouldn't say Christianity is the easiest to disprove. Every religion is easy to disprove with good old fashioned reason and logic.
But Christianity is the easiest. Dharmic religions and Islam and Judaism are harder.
@@cozakokotano6448 Not really. They're all full of shit.
@@cozakokotano6448, it's all man made stuff
@@pablito4762 that is a bold accusation there, mate. Further research should be made.
@@cozakokotano6448 , No it doesnt need to be done. I am already informed. To believe that a god chose a single race of humans to rule above all others is absurd. Especially if you consider that the progenitors of those people were either despicable cheaters and slavers: Jacob, Juda... or maniacs: Abraham, Moses. Whats even more funny is, that the hebrew god has no consistent behaviour. Yahweh and El were not even one god historically. Hebrews later morphed them to one god. The islamic copy of Judaism is even more absurd. Allah choosing a pedophile man as his last Prophet. Muhammed flys with a creature names Buraq to moon and moon is split by Mohammed. How did he survive without a suit?🤡🤡 Muslims dancing around a giant square but call others idole worshippers? And then they claim Islam is peaceful yet Muslims need to fight Jihad 🤣😂🤣 Dharmic religions make more sense? Yes its total logical to worship animal gods 😂🤣🤣🤣
I left the Pentecostal Churches (P.A.W. and U.P.C. Modalism)40 years ago, I appreciate your channel this is what I have been searching for, and have been interested in your amazing Topics. I appreciate your empathy for you yourself have been in a Pentecostal Church and speak from experience and are well aware of the practices. Thanks for having Rabbi Singer on your Show. I met Rabbi Singer at NYU back in the '90s.
37:45 "blameless" is a translation meaning "without craftiness" it does not mean without sin. Jews often were crafty in going against Jewish law. Forinstance: Renting your land during the time you were supposed to let the field go fallow, surcomventing what is ecologically beneficial to the soil. There were endless ways for "craftiness " to get around. Jewish law.
How many Christian's have been convinced by the rabbi?
Thousands
A lot.
Rabbi Tovia, is simply outstanding. I am learning so much from you sir. Really appreciate it. Please do keep it up. I feel sad for my Christian friends. I live in Texas and work with many evangelical Christians. They are great people; but unfortunately they are just lost in believing Paul's corrupted perverted belief.
Amen. 🙏 ✡️
Please show them this Rabbi.
I officially converted to Judaism ✡️ because of this Rabbi and I am more than grateful for this Rabbi. ✡️
I give this Rabbi ✡️ all of my gratitude. 🙏
hi God bless his people, I have a sincere question, have you read all the letters of Paul verse by verse, chapter by chapter and , after having read them, have you tried to match what he wrote with all the Old Testament? Peace to all those of good Will.
@@voiceintheopen345 Exactly. Paul’s Letters do not correspond with The TaNaKh. He’s a complete fake and a complete fraud.
@@aceiland1774 I am afraid you did not read my question or you did not understand it, my question was: I have a sincere question, have you read all the letters of Paul verse by verse, chapter by chapter, and, after having read them, have you tried to match what he wrote with all the Old Testament?
I am not a very religious person but I respect beliefs, in fact, I am FREE-THINKER which is why I asked you that question. a very honest question, not a tricky one, just that , an honest question.
Do you speak French, Spanish, or some Italian?
@@voiceintheopen345 No. I’m primarily an English speaking person. Look, I don’t want any trouble. I just love ❤️ and support this Rabbi very very very much. ✡️✡️✡️
Such an awaking analogy there at 55:00...
It’s interesting that Rabbi Singer would say it’s “the easiest” to disprove when so much time and effort is spent on attempting to do so here, yet it cannot and will not be stopped.
Rabbi Singer you do have amazing hair, however, so I think you’ve got something going there.
As for what you stated about Paul, Christ can be in us. It means inside of our hearts which refers to being part of us. This isn’t pagan in any way because it’s simply about love for Him. As we follow Him we can be more like Him, and the more we’re like Him the more we’ll recognize Him in our lives.
I think Christians (at least those true to Christian doctrine) can’t be personal or friendly toward people who disagree with them because they believe that person is going to hell and they deem it best to distance oneself from such a traumatic fate. Where there is less intimacy, there is less pain.
How very Buddist of you 😉
Tovia Singer condemns Christianity but then compromises with Islam. I find this hypocritical. Either Islam is wrong or right. If Muslims are right and worship one God, as Tovia claims, then why isn't he a Muslim ?
Well I’m not religious, but I know enough from my youth that Jesus broke bread with hell bound people. My understanding of Christian doctrine is that we are all “made in God’s image” and there for must be respected as such - hell bound people are also made in God’s image they just currently are not choosing to close the distance between themselves and God or some such thing. Also there’s the old, Prodigal Son thing, every one, including atheist and non believer is given free will, and the thing is for one to find one’’s way to got via their own volition, in their own time. Christianity is not so much a religion, i.e. something you join, as it is a decision to have a relationship with God and that subjective, subjective to one’s own mind, one’s own experiences etc…
I think that’s often the case, but it’s also why I actually find some well-intentioned missionaries’ efforts to be moving. Any true spiritual salvation would transcend our earthly notions of pleasure and pain. What pain would fire be to an eternal soul with knowledge of the Ultimate Truth?
@@kaneinkansas true Judaism is a racist and genocidal ideology. Just check the body count in the Book of Kings and Judges after the flood killed masses!
Can't believe I ever "fell" for X-ianity for so many years, but I will tell you...the entire time I was in it, I ALWAYS had "doubts." Just beneath the surface, I felt there was something wrong with it, but couldn't put my finger on it until the last 10 years. And, I am thankful to Rabbi Singer for "clarifying" SO MANY QUESTIONS I had for years that, of course, the Pastors could NEVER answer. Praise Yahuah!!!
Common sense Lucky; I don't understand your logic. Let me understand, First you believe Jesus was the messiah the anointed one and the church/ you gave him divinity now you totally reject Jesus as the messiah and he was not the annointed. You sound confused.
@@LFC_RAD NO! I am NOT confused at all.....not at all whatsoever. I "was" confused as a Christian, but NOT anymore. Christianity is total "confusion and NONSENSE." SO GLAD to be out of that "'DELUSION." Shalom.
@@commonsenselucy5697 Greetings, I apologize for saying you confused, it appears to me that you are and I will tell you why. It appears as if you went from one extremity by turn g a man into a God and then totally rejecting him.
I am a muslim by the way.
@@LFC_RAD First of all, thank you for your apology. Secondly, I do NOT know why you are so surprised by my testimony. Many many people....not just myself.....are coming out of Christianity and other religions because their Spiritual journey led them to the truth of the One and True Creator......the Holy One of Israel. I grew up in a Pagan home, but I was taken to church. Most people in America were raised Christian, and "TOLD JESUS WAS THIS MESSIAH." Since I was fully aware that I was a sinner in my younger days, Jesus seemed to provide an answer to my guilt. But, I see now that the Holy One of Israel doesn't require a "blood sacrifice" to FORGIVE SINS.....also, that human sacrifice is an "ABOMINATION" according to Torah. Anyway, I am NOT confused now at all. And I truly love the PATH I am on now, and believe it is the truth. Again, shalom and goodnight to you.
@@LFC_RAD No!!! I just REALIZED MY ERROR, AND REPENTED OF MY IDOLATRY. If it was "good enough" for the Most High to FORGIVE ME, why is that so difficult for you to understand. Jesus was a "CREATED BEING".....NOT PART OF SOME TRINITY GOD, and so "I WOKE UP." Shalom!!!
"You want the Truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH".
I enjoyed seein this from the view of a rabi May ALLAH guide us all
hello everyone, we have evidence that backs up the Bible, if anyone is interested
Also, religion (Christianity) is just a relationship with God along with loving others
God bless Rabbi Tovai who reveals the rruth and helps us to have a free mind for understanding! ! Happy Christmas from Germany! Rabbi Jesus is still my man!
jesus, the dead carpenter, isn't messiah@ed van eckert
@abraham mani FAKE NEWS MANI # 1 troll here on youtube. Your false messiah, the dead carpenter, is fake news. Nowhere in Tanakh is he alluded to as a deity; in fact, you're practicing idolatry and blasphemy against the ONE ETERNAL GD, because there is NONE ELSE. ISAIAH 43:10-11 ( THERE IS NO SAVIOR BUT GD) and the carpenter ISN'T GD. The fake news, new testament is a book of FICTION AND LIES. Now, go away.
@abraham mani jesus the FALSE MESSIAH.
I love Rabbi Tovia Singer. He helped me break away from Christianity by using and properly understanding the bible - both Old and "new" testaments. His Let's Get Biblical bible study books are excellent!
Be blessed. ❤
You should see the debate between him and Dr michael brown. 2 jews 1 messianic jews. Dr michael brown dismantels tovia singer so much he asked brown not to post it.
@@samluciano2309 Brown is a Christian cult leader. Back up your claims. Post the link where Singer asked Brown not to post their debate. Brown's beliefs are riddled with biblical problems. Even other Christians put him to shame.
@@stevenmyers3647 no just no. U ask for evidence for my claim 😂 give me evidence that he is a cult leader 🤣🤣🤣 everyone keep throwing that word around 🤣
I like how these two will not get embroiled into arguments. I bet they have low blood pressure and no stomach lining issues.
Geez.
Derek was very patient.
Well considering christianity riffed off of judaism that's really not the direction you want to go in. LMAO. Sure he can debunk christianity but I could very much debunk judaism. LOL So ummmmmm okay?????? LOL
Rabbi Tovia Singer is totally incredible in his way of discrediting NT position in respect to how authors mischaracterised the Tanack text ✅ I loved it because it has a lot of insight to the Bible
I think you never listened other hebrews and hebrew scholars that gives you a better say his polemmics against x
NT can be shown by others thst he is not as smart ro disredit Entire nt and gospel interpretation by tanakh
Why does it always turn into I'm right and their
Wrong. What if you're both wrong.
Rabbi Tovia helps us to understand the source of Chrisitnity and helps us to find a real way to understand Jesus and what god might really might want from us...
Nah, he just dislikes Christianity and portrays it as it is what it is: man made story. Unfortunately he is a hypocrite who forgets to tell truth about his own religion who took tales from ancient people before: Indo-Aryans and Vedic texts, Sumerians, Assyrians and Akkadians and their ancient texts about Annunaki gods, Egyptian texts.... Judaism, like Christianity and Islam is not original too. If Jews truly believe that, they have no knowledge.
@@pablito4762 surelythe Jewish scholars know about that the Mishnah and the Pentateuch with all the stories about who and what god is and what he wants often stem from cultures their ancestors lived in … the big advantage is that they s startet to write it down for their own behalf and identity. And they accumulate a lot of wisdom and divine thinking….
Book SEEING THROUGH CHRISTIANITY by bill zuersher look into it
I tried but it was so transparent that I saw right through it.
@@peli_candude554 that was actually good,,
As a Muslim, I think that all abrahamic religions are just rephrasing to old Egyptian seasonal traditions/myths & Sun clock based shamanism, thats all... salutes from Egypt.
"Muslim"
@@JustinHerchel I know 😂😂😂
Then you're not a Muslim then lmao
All stories in abrahamic religions come from other people and their religions: eg from Indo-Aryans and their Vedic texts (eg Noah was known as Manu in vedic texts as progenitor of mankind and Manu is related to Mannus in ancient germanic religion there he is too a progenitor of mankind, a reoccuring mystical figure among Indo-Europeans) , from Sumerians, Assyrians and Akkdians and their texts about Annunaki gods (in those texts it was described that man was made with mud... ), from ancient egyptians and their texts.....
“As a Muslim”?! I am sure you’re not Muslim if you believe that!
When I went to art school many decades ago, we got to how Jesus was depicted. They called it the indoor classic controversy. That’s a fancy term that means that every nation paints Jesus to look like one of their own. If you look at a painting by Velazquez, he looks Spanish if you look at a painting by Rembrandt he looks Dutch, etc. etc. for every single part of Europe, of course historically the first to pictures of Jesus he did not even have a beard, and he certainly did not have long flowing straight here.
@@abrahammani-3445Quit spamming or else you will get reported to TH-cam.
A subject that I would like an answer to would be "Why are there two creation stories in Genesis
1 and 2?