The New Testament Caught Lying with Rabbi Tovia Singer (Jews Reject Jesus)
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- Rabbi Tovia Singer is the founder and director of Outreach Judaism, a Jewish counter-missionary organization. It describes itself as "an international organization that responds directly to the issues raised by missionaries and cults, by exploring Judaism in contradistinction to fundamentalist Christianity." Singer cautions regarding congregations that "are designed to appear Jewish, but are actually fundamentalist Christian churches, which use traditional Jewish symbols to lure the most vulnerable of our Jewish people into their ranks." Outreach Judaism was described by J. Gordon Melton in 2002 as an example of "the current state of Jewish counter-cult activity."
Rabbi Tovia Singer explains why Jews reject Jesus of the New Testament as the messiah.
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Rabbi Tovia Singer shows the changing of Hebrew scripture by the New Testament authors, how they redefined the use of the Hebrew scriptures & Paul being a liar.
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When I was struggling with my Christian faith learning about all the things Tovia spoke about in this world interview he was kind enough to not only answer my emails but he called me to discuss these issues as well!!
how do you contact him?
@@saintfreezy6914 I found his email somewhere, it may have been in his book “let’s get biblical” but that was 12 years ago.
The Jehovah Witnesses or the Moonies would do the same.
@@paulustarsus is that right, and what difference would it make?
@@jamesregiste960 Google it.
I can’t believe how sophisticated your understanding has become from self learning. You are truly becoming a compelling force.
Fidus Achates so in your view when a person seeks the truth they become a force of a false deity? Jesus said seek the truth and you will find it. James also said I will show you my faith by my works. Anyone who does good and seeks the truth is validated by the New Testament. This is what Tovia and the host but you say he is of beelzebub?
@Fidus Achates Christians sure like throwing around the word "Satanist" to us Jews.
But that's fine. Projection is a very common psychological malady amongst the Christians.
Plus we'd rather be accused of worshiping Satan, than be accused of worshiping the false, lying, deceiving, illegitimate union of a teenage girl and a ghost that the Christians call their messiah.
@@curtisscissons563 Why are you being offensive? Jesus is the Messiah.
@@patrickoconnor9700 If Jesus was the messiah, I'd be in Jerusalem right now worshiping at the Third Temple with my resurrected dead relatives.
@@curtisscissons563 Jesus very much is the Messiah.
Why did you say all those things? It's one thing to have a different position than the Christian point of view, doing so in a respectful way, and another to be outright offensive. Plus those things that you said are not true. The Lord Jesus Christ is the greatest of all time. 🙏
Subbed to this channel because of Robert Price, but am continually impressed with the quality of guests and topics covered so have to watch all of the stuff I missed now ;)
@Abraham Mani I don't understand this comment and I'm really glad I don't.
Please stay away from sharp objects...
@Abraham Mani Mani is back again spewing lies and trolling for $$$
I am so happy having come into contact with rabbi Tovia Singer about 6 years ago. I then met him in Jerusalem 4 years ago. He has had a very important influence on my thinking during my journey.
Bible Addict
Hey internet Rambo
🖕 *OMITTED VERSES FROM THE BIBLE* 🖕
*This Bible (RSV) is the product of 32 Christian scholars of the highest eminence assisted by an advisory committee representing 50 cooperating Christian denominations"*
(revised by them in 1952 and then again in 1971)
In the preface of the RSV 1971 we find the following:
*"...Yet the King James Version has GRAVE DEFECTS.."*
They go on to caution us that:
*"...That these defects are SO MANY AND SO SERIOUS as to call for revision"*
The New Revised Standard Version of the Bible by Oxford Press has the following to say in its preface:
*"Yet the King James Version has SERIOUS DEFECTS. By the middle of the nineteenth century, the development of biblical studies and the discovery of many biblical manuscripts more ancient than those on which the King James Version was based made it apparent that these defects were so many as to call for revision."*
*OMITTED VERSES*
Matthew 17:21, Matthew 18:11, Matthew 20:16,
Matthew 23:14
Mark 6:11, Mark 7:16, Mark 9:44 & 9:46, Mark 11:26, Mark 15:28
Luke 4:8, Luke 9:55-56, Luke 17:36, Luke 23:1
John 3:16 the word “begotten” is removed.
John 5:3-4
Acts 8:37, Acts 9:5-6, Acts 13:42, Acts 15:34
Acts 23:9, Acts 24:6-8, Acts 28:29
Romans 16:24
1 John 5:7-8 The Trinity is removed.
In the 1952 RSV Mark 16 ends at verse 8.
*the opinion of Christendom with regard to these scholars and their work in the revision of the Bible* (revised by them in 1952 and then again in 1971):
*-"The finest version which has been produced in the present century"* - (Church of England newspaper)
*-"A completely fresh translation by scholars of the highest eminence"* - (Times literary supplement)
*-"The well loved characteristics of the authorized version combined with a new accuracy of translation"* - (Life and Work)
*-"The most accurate and close rendering of the original"* - (The Times)
I’ve been trying to get in contact with that man for years ✡️
@@OnlineGamer62 email him, he will write back
@Abraham Mani It's telling how you polytheists never argue the actual facts and points. And why don't you ever record of document these alleged miracles? And why don't you go to hospitals and cute the sick and the suffering with all that magical power?
@Abraham Mani Mani is back again spewing lies and trolling for $$$
Apostle Paul was the Joseph Smith of the first century.
Who? 😂😂😂
You are right.
Good analogy
Admitting that the followers of Jesus Christ are pedos. Good on you
Joseph Smith was insane.
Rabbi Tovia is one of my Favorite Rabbis!!
I'm Muslim & from Egypt... I do really appreciate your efforts to deconstruct ancient myths buddy :)
Sherif Fathi
Sheikh, pls subscribe to my channel
Shukran
"allah" is a Myth, dude .. the entire koran is made-up bullshit, invented by a child-rapist, just like christianity and jesus ..
Bible Addict
Hey internet Rambo
🖕 *OMITTED VERSES FROM THE BIBLE* 🖕
*This Bible (RSV) is the product of 32 Christian scholars of the highest eminence assisted by an advisory committee representing 50 cooperating Christian denominations"*
(revised by them in 1952 and then again in 1971)
In the preface of the RSV 1971 we find the following:
*"...Yet the King James Version has GRAVE DEFECTS.."*
They go on to caution us that:
*"...That these defects are SO MANY AND SO SERIOUS as to call for revision"*
The New Revised Standard Version of the Bible by Oxford Press has the following to say in its preface:
*"Yet the King James Version has SERIOUS DEFECTS. By the middle of the nineteenth century, the development of biblical studies and the discovery of many biblical manuscripts more ancient than those on which the King James Version was based made it apparent that these defects were so many as to call for revision."*
*OMITTED VERSES*
Matthew 17:21, Matthew 18:11, Matthew 20:16,
Matthew 23:14
Mark 6:11, Mark 7:16, Mark 9:44 & 9:46, Mark 11:26, Mark 15:28
Luke 4:8, Luke 9:55-56, Luke 17:36, Luke 23:1
John 3:16 the word “begotten” is removed.
John 5:3-4
Acts 8:37, Acts 9:5-6, Acts 13:42, Acts 15:34
Acts 23:9, Acts 24:6-8, Acts 28:29
Romans 16:24
1 John 5:7-8 The Trinity is removed.
In the 1952 RSV Mark 16 ends at verse 8.
*the opinion of Christendom with regard to these scholars and their work in the revision of the Bible* (revised by them in 1952 and then again in 1971):
*-"The finest version which has been produced in the present century"* - (Church of England newspaper)
*-"A completely fresh translation by scholars of the highest eminence"* - (Times literary supplement)
*-"The well loved characteristics of the authorized version combined with a new accuracy of translation"* - (Life and Work)
*-"The most accurate and close rendering of the original"* - (The Times)
@Matthew Payne I promise I will.
I'm a Jew and agree deeply with you cousin
Can’t believe you’ve interviewed this guy, too. That’s great. My descent out of christianity started years ago, when I began to study Judaism. Ironically, it was to strengthen my former christian faith, Lol!
Of course, I am neither christian or Jew, now, but dismantling Jesus is the key to this house of cards.
Bible Addict If you were not such a bible addict you would realize how foolish you sound, as this is one of the most common responses, by christians, to this statement. Educate yourself on the “No True Scotsman” fallacy.
Either way, if I were never a christian, that’s good, because it would be embarrassing, otherwise. But, do tell us, what is the litmus test of a “true christian”, dear God? Evidence please, “HerpDerp”.
Bible Addict
*Relax internet Rambo*
reality check Lol, “Bible Rambo” has a few comments throughout this comments section.
Hey Zeus
Believe me, the internet Rambo Bible Addict couldn’t debate his way out of a paper bag.
reality check We know we’ve won the debate against the internet bible rambos when they resort to argumentum ad hominem, incoherent rambling, and spastic grammar. I hope @Bible Addict keeps posting, as they’re making an exemplary example of christianity.
I should add appeals to personal incredulity, as well, since the Internet bible keyboard warriors cannot believe it’s possible to change one’s mind about a former religion. Unfathomable, for them.
I watched your previous interviews with the rabbi and also watched the one of you talking about the Jesus hoax with Dr David. He is a blessing the rabbi to show the world how Jews really are not blind and how blind Christians can really be. I have watched many videos of him and his debates with other people. I love how he says how do you go and change the words of my bible. Anyway both of you keep up the good work and God bless you both.
Can you elaborate more on this Jesus hoax please?
@@patrickoconnor9700 find his interview for the Jesus hoax on TH-cam
@@madmanmark8387 Can you tell me what you think of this hoax?
@@patrickoconnor9700 I really do not know what to think. As one might say a thousand years from now one might think Batman was real.
@@patrickoconnor9700: The "New Testament", which is NOT scripture that was given to mankind by God, wasn't even written until at least 20 YEARS after "Jesus" was already DEAD! Yet they quote him word-for-word - impossible! Just try to remember what YOU said yesterday, word-for-word - again, impossible! "Jesus" never said ONE word that is attributed to him in the false, pagan "NT". The ONLY scriptures God ever gave to mankind, is His Hebrew scriptures (Torah) that He gave to Moses on Mt. Sinai. He told us that those scriptures are ETERNAL (i.e. STILL in effect and binding today!) and that we are NOT to follow ANY other teaching than what is in His Torah. Christianity IS another teaching, therefore we are NOT to follow its false, pagan teachings - God's orders!
I've never had such a clear description of Paul before 💯
🚨Safety Alert: Seek Shelter
👑Rabbi Singer is dropping them truth bombs again💥💥💥🍿😁
Rabbi Singer believes the snake spoke in the garden of eden...WTF?!?!
Brenton Iverson
He doesn’t believe it. He knows it.
@ellenfrancis67
The fuck does that have to do with his deranged ass believing in talking snakes? Oh wait nothing.
@@brentoniverson1020 your a talking ass...so in reality is it so hard to believe a snake can talk as well?
@@brentoniverson1020 ok simpleton back then mankind could talk to animals, we no longer can but few still get that as a gift.
Jesus was a Jew who was put to death for loving God beyond the law, texts and scripture, but rather in grace, truth and mercy.
´´Jesus was a Jew who was put to death for loving God...´´ So Jesus as a Jew believed in ONE God as a real Jew does. Yet christians made Jesus a god/man god. That is idolatry at its core. Facepalm!
The fictional character Jesus was put to death for loving God beyond the law etc....
That business of a virgin birth is totally LUDICROUS.
Virgin = unsullied soul, pure and does not refer to Mary but to Jesus
Awesome presentation again guys. So much is not being told concerning our Christian faith. Thanks guys for a breath of fresh air.
Those who are sinless do not need Jesus!
After his last visit to MythVision, I bought and read Rabbi Singer's 2 volume, "Let's get Biblical." They contain all of these arguments, in detail, and so much more. Large print, clearly written, reasonably priced.
I finally got through the whole show. Excellent interview, great subject!!!
Hey 👋 how’s
If I was ever to convert, I want this Rabbi, he is awesome!
Why would you convert?
The best!
@@LordJagd
Convert from what to what?
Fantastic! Derek, Rabbi isn't defending Judaism, he's giving information that reveals the phallacy of Christianity.
Wow!!! Eyes wide open now! Thank you!😱👍
1:2:23 omg this was hilarious! I love the good Rabbi! I'll gladly watch any more videos you get with him.
Thank you for these talks. I appreciate those who earnestly, honestly and bravely pursue the great questions about religion that need to be concretely answered. I have extensively studied religion; Christianity in particular; and have been blown away by what I have found in my personal research. In a nutshell I have found that religions are nothing more than sophisticated forms of mind control created solely by the ancient elite faction FOR their BENEFIT and the modern elite are continuing to benefit very handsomely as well as the human race continues to support them in the lap of the highest luxury as possible with this form of govern-ment-al (ment=mind) control created by the Romans for the ignorant, gullible and superstitious of which I will admit I was at one time a part! But no longer. I am on to those who seek the money, property and total control of their unsuspecting brothers and sisters with their false and HIGHLY deceptive teachings. For me, if there is a test in life (as the religious claim,) I have passed mine...meaning I am on to these wicked men who put themselves on pedestals and pretend to be something THEY are NOT and never could be. It's hard being red-pilled and you do get pissed like they say...but then truly you are set free. It's worth it.
Ask yourself, how far will men go in order to rule the world? They are capable of pulling absolutley ANYTHING off.
Ignorance breeds tyranny~
Education and courage are the way out.
Ignorance breeds tyranny~
Education and courage are the way out. The two most important statements of the 21st century.
Derek, I'm so glad you addressed your "Sep-TOOL-igent" tendency. For whatever reason, it had been driving me crazy. Now it just seems like an endearing quirk. p.s. Thanks for introducing me to Rabbi Singer. I love him.
Rabbi , I knew the truth in Judaism, before I understood the truth. You ,Rabbi have confirmed my realization in my relationship with my creator, the god of Israel. My maternal roots are found in the Sephardic world in Spain. However, I was raised a catholic and have struggled with its teachings from early childhood. Please understand that I am a student through your post and coupled with daily chabad. Please consider more teaching in the beautiful aspects of Judaism. Thank you so much .
There are othe illuminating rabbis that includes rabbi Singer . Perhaps your video feed is including what came my way a few months ago: Consider listening to Rabbi Manis Friedman along with your other resources.
Rabbi Singer helps me /us engage the Christian that wants to learn why Judaism is scripturally true. But that leaves us hanging - we’ve been deprived for 2000years how Judaism views Everything.
Manis Friedman is a good start. He is a very good communicator. Bear in mind he is always speaking to a Jewish audience, jewishly.
it’s not a conversion outreach ministry
Be prepared to have your mind blown, your world, rocked. Judaism is deep beautiful and sublime. Even his language right down to every penstroke there are meetings to be discovered.
Very interesting interview, this Rabbi obviously knows his stuff and knows christian scriptures. As an atheist, I found his views very interesting and thought provoking.
Yeah but he runs into the counter point that the old testament lies as well. There is no evidence of a historical Moses, nor Abraham, there is no evidence of the original Kingdom of Israel especially the empire described (if it did exist than it was clearly talked up which is lying) in the old testament. So this is just the pot calling the kettle black.
@@greyfox79007 yes, obviously he is an orthodox whose views line up with literal scriptures, so for him all the stories are true stories, which I find hilarious….
@dave hopkins well, both of us find something hilarious, isn’t that great? :) live free, live happy.
@dave hopkins lol, that escalated quickly it seems.
@Abraham Mani repeating the same message 6 or 7 times doesn’t make it more believable. I’m an atheist, I don’t believe in your silly gods.
Jews reject the notion of 3 gods, 30000 versions of god #2 (30000 different Christian denominations, each with their own Jesus ), and hundreds of intercessionary saints to pray to.
Christians have ONE God in 3 persons. HE doesn't understand and he never will.
one God 3 persons, you don't understand and you never will. Asking a saint to pray with you means you are praying with someone. God listens to all prayer but when you have someone to pray with you, you are not so alone. That is my faith do not step on it.
@@patricialauriello3805 The Trinity is three Gods. The Trinity doctrine was man made by popes 300 years after Jesus do your research. Jesus never called himself God ever!
@@slick4576 3 persons one God you have it wrong. God the father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are in scripture. Trinity 3 persons, one God. Think of a 3 leaf clover. three leaves one stem. NO it was NOT invented by man.
@@patricialauriello3805 Jesus never called himself God. Here's what the trinity doctrine said after the popes made it in 325 Ad by Constantine. " The son is God,the Holy Spirit is God,the Father is God " but than it goes on to say" the Holyspirit is not the Father,the son is not the father,the son is not the Holyspirit" and it goes on and on so therefore you have three Gods! It contridicts itself. Furthermore trinity is not even in the Bible. Jesus never said he was equal with his Father instead he said " The Father is greater than I" and in the Gospel of John before he assended to heaven he told Mary " I'm going to my God and your God" furthermore the Holyspirit also called the Ruach hackadesh is a Force not a separate person and a God of its own but it's God spirit and force. The trinity is man made and you can't find any scripture that teach the trinity. Their is one passage in first John that the popes added on purpose 1000 years later to support their Trinity garbage. Do your history
What you discover may surprise you. Jesus did not talk at all about things we tend to make religion about in politics, when we reduce it to a couple of controversial moral issues. But on the other hand he lived an incredibly political life.
He was amazing in his progressive treatment of women. He confronted the racism of his people against Gentiles and Samaritans. He had a heart for the outcast. He lifted up mission with the poor and impoverished. He taught radical peacemaking, saying “those that live by the sword die by the sword.”
He said that it is what comes out of our mouth, not what goes in, that defiles. He spoke of those who are without sin casting the first stone, calling out judgmentalism for what it is. He affirmed those who are poor, meek, mourning, and weak.
He called people to a whole new world of grace, the kingdom of God, which has embedded in it a vision for justice for all people. He said strange things like “the last shall he first and the first shall be last.” He stood squarely against the accumulation of wealth.
Or are you content with human, divisive labels like liberal and conservative?
I accept neither label because I’d rather just follow the gospel. It’s time that we disentangle divisive political labels from our faith and let the gospel be our guide..
Please put your accumulated information into a visual timeline to help us beginners better understand and explain.
Thank you so much for your work. It is so good. I've wanted all my life for these things to become unassailable common knowledge. It's taking too long!
I don't understand how you can bash Christianity while respecting Judaism when you claim not to believe any of it. Sounds personal 🤔
In fact, I can be like Paul, "all things to all people". It kinda is personal because I once believed in this religion. I also do not believe in Judaism. I had Rabbi Singer on to give shots at Christianity.
@@MythVisionPodcast Pampers and people should be changed for the same reasons 😏
You take out little bits of truth everywhere.
The question that has plagued me for years is, who decided to combined the two disparate ideologies of Judaism and christianity in the same book??? Diametrical opposites in terms of their view of the person of Jesus!?!? Again, why did NOT the Jewish organization rigorously object to the christian usurpation of their scriptures??? It makes NO sense!!! I understand that in order for the upstart nascent christian group to gain acceptance, they needed to be tied to that which was already currently in vogue but am left in disbelief as to why the Jews did not strenuously object to such an affront??? Smacks of some sort of conspiracy or complicity on the part of the Jews!?!? The two philosophies, Jews who completely rejected Jesus as neither prophet nor messiah, juxtaposed to the christian view that Jesus was "son" of "God" and even "God" HIMSELF, combined in one book??? Completely baffling!!!
Cassondra Mcgowan I totally agree and wonder the same thing. It’s like the proverbial elephant in the room.
Simply stated, the Jews reject Jesus christ, but christians use the Jewish scriptures as part of their source documents.
You’d think the ones who wrote the “book” would know best, i.e., the Jews. Yet, christians can’t see this obvious flaw.
The original Christian "scripture" was the old testament rubbish. That's why 1 Clement doesn't mention any gospel, Paul's Epistles nor the "incredible" life of Jesus.
The gospels and the unification of the old and new testament was done by the roman church to combat marcionists and gnostics who were the majority
@@DL-rl9bd Exactly. Never in their 5000 year history, did the Jews ever believe in a trinity. And they're the ones who are the originators of monotheism!
@@alestertyrell - never thought of it like that before.
Cassondra Mcgowan you’re forgetting that Jews did strenuously object and that’s why Christianity took root amongst gentiles with no knowledge or history of the Hebrew texts. But importantly, Christianity was born only a few decades before one of the most traumatic events in jewish history, the destruction of Jerusalem and the dispersal of Jews throughout the Roman Empire. The focus wasn’t on some tiny, fringe sect claiming crazy shit about the Tanakh, the focus was on survival and also on how Judaism would have to be reinvented without the temple. How do you keep the ideas of the Jewish religion when the temple cult is gone? That was what was occupying the minds and hearts of Jewish rabbis post in the second century, not a fringe cult that had no cultural impact up to that point.
I read "The Mythmaker," and my recollection was that Maccoby believed Paul was not a Pharisee (and that Jesus was), not that he wasn't Jewish at all. I read it a while back, so I could be remembering it wrong. [Edit: oops, that's what the Rabbi is saying.]
Completely eye-opening!
Request for a Schlomo Sand interview . . . please deconstruct Mr Singer. I loved this conversation. I love to hear the Rabbi !
I will try to contact him.
Daily Data
I’ve never heard of the man you mentioned, however, if this deconstruction attempt were to take place, my money’s on Rabbi Singer because the likelihood that he would throw that guy into a paradigm-shift, the likes of which he may never recover from (that is if he has even a modicum of intellectual honesty/integrity) is very high.
🚨I’m upping my alert button for this channel so I can be notified immediately in case I need to grab some snacks & popcorn for that showdown should it happen.🍿👍🏼😁💵
mitzvah golem
What’s the name of the publisher which published the TaNaKh you have?
Anyone can publish an “orthodox” TaNaKh. The publisher should be Artscroll to cover all bases for a kosher translation in my opinion.
Noah Hyde
From your handle I’m assuming you’re a Noahide & if you are then why would you need anything more than that? Sounds like you’re doing great exactly where you are.
I am patiently awaiting for the rabbi to admit that is all an ancient scam going back to before the Torah was written. I am about 15 minutes in. Any second now, right?
Rav Singer was a chubby checker for a while but recently lost a lot of weight, he's an inspiration to me both spiritually and health wise as well, gut Shabbos!
1:21:34 lmao, "was Paul a self-hating Jew?" 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you so much for interview Rabbi Tovia. I love you for this. Sincerely.
What happened between the old and new testaments is exactly like Frank Herbert's original "DUNE" series and the Brian Herbert&K.J.Anderson dumbed-down 'embellishments'.
The 'inbetween' translation was none other than "StarWars", which plagiarised "DUNE" left, right and centre and turned it into something entirely different. Then SW brought sci-fantasy to the plebs, after which the Dune universe itself got unashamedly StarWars-ified in return.
And Leto II Atreides is still a completely fictional character.
@@Vadjong We don't know yet if Leto II Atreides if fictional or not. He won't be born for another 8,125 years.
Delightful discussion. ♥
Another Awesome episode. Even though I think there are many people limiting what they can reap from these studies due to their reducing the whole topic to what they believe or don't believe. The great thing about many of your shows is that it is not all about looking for reasons to become an Atheist or not. Unfortunately there are many people out there that want that to be your agenda. Unfortunately I say because THEY MISSED THE POINT AGAIN AND AGAIN. They keep fooling themselves into thinking that they have any real voice while being so unfamiliar with the text. What they believe HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MOST OF THIS WORK. In a certain way, some Atheists become worse than Evangelical half wits.
It was all about politics, the then politics of the then Roman Greco Jewish world of those times.
weather there is a god or not I just cannot stand it when people have cognitive dissonance to facts and change things for what they want to believe regardless of reality or the truth . I cannot stand the person that says DONT BOTHER ME WITH THE FACTS MY MIND IS MADE UP . I cannot understand this kind of a sheepish like person
@TROLL MMA "DONT BOTHER ME WITH THE FACTS MY MIND IS MADE UP." Sincerely; me.
"Septulagint" would be a great name for a cover band that plays Sepultura, Tool, and the Gin Blossoms. 🤘🏼🔥😉
Tovia is brilliant his words are always ta’im sweet like honey 🍯
But do you respect the Christian faith?
@Matthew Payne: Well said - thank you!!!
@@patrickoconnor9700: If you leave us alone and DON'T try to convert us to your false, pagan religion - sure, we can respect that. But the minute you start trying to convert us, and tell us what OUR Hebrew scriptures mean - ZERO resepect!!
@Whip Lash: I don't know where you're getting your false information from, but Observant Orthodox Jews ("you Jews"!) DO NOT "accept money from Evangelicals" - that's an outright LIE!!! You've just proven that you're an anti-Semitic BIGOT - how VERY "Christian" of you!!
@@janishart5128 Did you see my reply?
Great show! Love The Rabbi! Fascinating ❤️
@LEO
Exactly correct and the perfect way of putting it!
Derek don't be surprised if it seems some people will totally miss the point of why what Tovia points out is relevant scholastically to the community some think you are here to represent or entertain. I mean can you get your head around someone saying this topic is irrelevant ? LOL. What you have done here is somewhat groundbreaking as you are taking these investigations waaaay outside of the box. Thanks again. LETEMKNOW.
I really like the rabbi. He is scholarly, funny and witty. I enjoy listening to him speak and the information he provides. However, I just can't get past a member of one cult criticizing another cult.
Judaism isn't a cult@Andrew DeGeorge
That point is well taken. But he criticizes the cult of Christianity from the starting point of the holy book of Christianity, which nearly all Christians accept. So with his critique, their self-professed claims fall apart. You can leave it to someone else (eg. Dr. Josh Bowen) to critique the OT, in his case from an academic, non-cultic viewpoint.
paul killed more with his word than with the sword
Ditto thank you
When u recognise that he got killed and never put a sword
Yeah...like a really bad stand up comedian
The followers of Paul did the killing.
Who is the bigger fool? The fool or thefoolss who follow him?
Yo Derek you’re good. Nice job.
One question to Rabbi Tovia Singer. Ezekiel 45:25 is passover sacrifice for forgiveness of sins. Because it says " on that day the Prince will sacrifice bull as a sin offering. Please clarify because you said passover has nothing to do with forgiveness of sins.
I'm a Jew...there is NO Pesach sacrifice. NOT TRUE!!! What there was was killing the lamb and spreading its blood on the lintels and top of the doors of the Jews so that HaShem Would PASSOVER those homes and not kill the first born. Only those doors that didn't have the blood were their deaths...of the egyptians. This is part of our Pesach "seder" (which means "order") as we retell the entire Pesach story every year. This dinner, which included the lamb whose blood was smeared on the doorposts and other symbolic items, happend the evening before the Jews left mitzrayim/egypt from bondage into freedom. We have continued to have this symbolic dinner, usually not with lamb but chicken or other meats. With a Strong Hand, HaShem Took His People out of egypt!!!
Great show Derek...!!!
Outstanding. Tovia Singer is Christianity's new worst nightmare.
In Judges we have the story of Jephthah and his daughter Jephthigenia.
Iphigeneia, in Greek mythology, eldest daughter of Agamemnon, king of Mycenae, and his wife Clytemnestra. Her father had to sacrifice her to the goddess Artemis in order that the Achaean fleet, of which he was leader, might be delivered from the calm (or contrary winds) by which Artemis was detaining it at Aulis and proceed on its way to the siege of Troy.
Iphigeneia served as a key figure in certain Greek tragedies: in the Agamemnonof Aeschylus, in the Electra of Sophocles, in Euripides’ unfinished Iphigeneia in Aulis, and in his earlier play Iphigeneia in Tauris, in which she was saved by Artemis, who substituted a hind. Variants of her story are found in later authors. In some localities she was identified with Artemis, and some ancient writers claimed that Iphigeneia was originally the goddess Hecate.
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It's not surprising a like story preceded it elsewhere. Im an agnostic but a fan of Singer because of his knowledge of the New Testament, especially being a rabbi and what he says against the NT.
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Both books are to be read as mythology. It appears that the writers of the entire bible were Romans. There is a huge amount of Egyptian and Phoenician myths incorporated into the old and new testaments. Neither of these has any historical or geographical relevance. They are used to screw over people. Best to get rid of this crap.
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One thing I learned that most Christians aren't aware of is the Natufian Culture in the area of the Levant invented agriculture around 9500 BC.
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Why did you leave out China, India, and the Americas?
Amazing loved this video
It would help if someone put the fruits of these podcasts to a visual time-line.
Right out of the chute: " Benny Hinn" hahahahahaha
oh. I thought he said Benny Hill. Now thats funny.
Brilliant content my friend. Highly valued perspectives being disseminated here!
a bit too many ads though mate, albeit the trend these days, it can be quite off putting at such saturating levels .
Love your channel
Dear mr. Lembert. Thank you for Kidush HaShem. Rabbi Tovia אשריך
Kiddush HaShem means Making G-D's Name Holy
When the rabbi was ask about Jews criticizing Islam, the rabbi says at 4:18 "not this Jew" that tells us verything about Rabbi Tovia Singer! Could the Rabbi tells us why does he NOT criticize Islam or the Qur'an?
It comes down to his focus on combating idolatry I think Orthodox Judaism believes while Islam is incorrect it is not idolatry.
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How about belief that kissing black stone can erase sins?
Its very idolatry, isn't it?
Dude... its not the reason why he never criticized islam.
Well he lived in an islamic country (indonesia) for years
Becauae Muslims are not proselytizing the Jews. When they can, they convert the Jews under the threat of death, but the Rabbi cannot do anything about THAT.
He speaks to the Jews who are constantly proselytizing by the Christians.
A religion of blood sacrifice, christianity is not a religion of peace and forgiveness as these Christians say, true god doesn't need blood to forgive sins.
A true fact jesus never said am a god and ordered to worship him in the bible.
What jesus actually said in the bible is : " the only true God is the father ".
The word "only" proves that there is no partners with god
God the father in Heaven = Jupiter/Zeus (iah). Messiah = son of Jupiter.
Religion in todays world is totally irrelevant. How can we cling to Bronze-early Iron age beliefs. Jesus is just a fairy story just like Paul. Great video tho.
Religions are still relevant, they impact personal, social, political and cultural matters.
This can come in different formes, like christian holidays, islamic sharia law, hindu nationalism/ Hindutva,...
now the question is why is that? for one it is a business, also a tradition but most of all because humans have a desire for something like religion: it gives you identy, hope and safety (in mind).
neo nova : even if there’s no God we still need religions.
Hmmm. I can sure understand your view. But guess what. The oldest Temple in the world, before cities, before hunting & gathering stopped, in the Paleo lithic times, human beings built unbelievable temple structures, for no domestic purpose, but for worshipping. circa 1200 B.C! GOBLEKI TEPI in Turkey. What once academics thought religion developed with cities, they now suspect it was the main IMPETUS, to build, to create, to worship. That's a major contributory factor to the evolution of society, organization, cities, development, & human life, don't you think? Like, the CAUSE of it. Seems fairly relevant to me, lol
Irrelevant. Ummmmm not so much. If only it WERE that simple. The truth may be WORSE than that. Belief in God or disbelief in God is actually in particular areas of this study is irrelevant. The whole point you are sharing here is not only played out and has nothing to do with the dialogue it has become boring. Its like an Evolutionist and a Creationist debating. BOOOOORRRRRRRRIIIIIIING . This is about text. This is about History. This is about insight. This is about study. This is not about whatever happens to occur to you through your intellect. And it is not about someone justifying their behavior upon belief or non belief in God. Most of Derrick's guests are about exploration of text and/or history NOT RELIGION. Many if not most are Atheists. Some are Elite scholars in this area of research. Robert Eisenman, Bart Ehrman, Ralph Ellis Richard Carrier etc etc etc . Wake up and get with the program or go find some drunks or derelicts to celebrate Atheism with. Some jerkoff used to mental masturbation over a couple of beers thinks he can spill into the discussion without knowing something about the material has no place commenting. Just another knob thinking he is smarter than he actually is. Its weird because the word Bible for example becomes a trigger mechanism for Atheist to throw up their hands and start telling you what they don't believe and how stupid this and that is and blah blah blah .I get that but as the blind man sees no frowns the atheist is deaf to the ACTUAL conversation taking place here. It becomes all about them and their anxiety about being preached to. In a way they become worse than evangelical morons. This area of research IS NOT IRRELEVANT and those involved in it as well as up and coming scholars find it interesting, revolutionary and revealing form of intellectual stimulation and exercise. Why don't you use your head? Who can show people how much the Christian scripture and position has deviated from the Jewish scripture it CLAIMS to have stemmed from more than Tovia Singer? How could that not be an important tool in showing people yet another reason that what they believe is faulty? What the hell are you going to turn around and say? Its not your intention to point this folly out to Christians? Bulls##t . You wouldn't have commented if that were the case. P.S. What can be said about Derrick's tendency of throwing hearts at his comments section? He is in fact generous .
@@paragonofvirtue270 EXACTLY. The effect of its removal from our mindset is usually accommodated historically by massive uprooting of the various societies in question. To remain blind to that should show us that people are not considering all aspects of this topic and are simply walking to the beat of their own egos. Not really (Big Picture )vision going on there. And consider the idea that their is an unknowable G-d . How much more irrelevant is the atheists? I think of the Greeks turning away from their gods to surrender to Philosophical influence of some of the worlds greatest minds(well maybe) . The point often overlooked is what rode on the heals of Socrates death. . A devastating smack in the head from Persia. Do we see a future parallel here ?. We can not fully comprehend the the actual realization and results of our decisions upon such matters. BUT THE MAD MEN PROPHETS AND ORACLES COULD. Sometimes I can feel Ezekiel or Jeremiah in their pain of seeing what was coming while they watched their people turning to idolatry , lusts for foreign intimacy, strange religions, back biting, greed and malice. If people think that these men had to be perfect Sin free individuals to express these things well even more fool the society and Nations in jeopardy . People just don't know what time it is. This is no joke. But the laughter will remain until it crumbles at their feet. This is not a time of repentance it is a time of devastation , awe and history about to mercilessly step forward into a new age. Can you hear the laughter? Enjoy it while you can but take heed. Check yourself. But dont be surprised when you turn back to your G-d when the fear of your situation is upon you that you get a busy signal on the other end with no voicemail. What you take into your heart is what you will be measured by. RIGHT HERE IN THE REAL. YOUR SOUL MATTERS.
Na'aman, an authority on Jewish
history and a colleague of Finkelstein's at Tel
Aviv University, describes David's story as
"extraordinary fiction.
"But he believes that it
contains kernels of truth, preserved as the tale
was passed down by oral tradition. The story,
for instance, frequently mentions the
Philistine city of Gath, which was destroyed in
the late ninth century B.C.a clue to its
origins.
Jesus was murdered and he believed God was with him until the end.
Rabi Tovia my # 1 Rabi is who confirmed my studys as i say' Followed God out of xtianity!
I would like to be a atheist Jew . . . . I would be converting from Atheist Catholicism. Can you help me?
Daily Data Just today I heard a term for that, called “faitheist”.
Not my thing, but some people still want to hang on to the notion of religion having some archetypical role in human psychology.
@@DL-rl9bd Faitheism or Atheism' is just another religion.
Wally Cleaver and which of the theistic deities does atheism follow in its alleged religion?
If you’re suggesting that there is a sense of tribalism or groupthink, you’re correct. I don’t deny that. In christianity, one could argue that it’s not even about the “think”, but about the group.
I kindly suggest you refrain from making another one of theists’ most common, fallacious equivocations.
P.S.- Do you also spell pigeon as “pigion”?
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones ? It isn't like the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish scriptures are pure as the driven snow when subjected to critical textual analysis....
Agreed.. Who's to say the Greek isnt the first created, and that the "Hebrew" writings weren't ripping off the original Greek texts to give an alternate message in their favor.
Fidus Achates no it isn’t. The earliest Hebrew manuscripts are the Dead Sea scrolls and they conform largely to the masoretic texts, as any Hebrew biblical scholar can demonstrate. You are literally talking out of your ass.
The original Septuagint commissioned in Alexandria only contained the Torah, none of the prophets or histories, ect. No one knows what it said because we don’t have that original Septuagint so one can’t assert that that version is a poor or faithful translation to the Hebrew texts they were translating.
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Adam and Eve are borrowed from the Egyptian Seb and Nut. Note where the third son of Adam is the Egyptian Set/Seth. Also Genesis one begins with the Egyptian Shu (Air), Tefnut (Moisture) giving "birth" to Heaven and Earth. The six days are the six months from the spring equinox - fall equinox. The six nights are the six months from the fall equinox - spring equnox. Genesis one is not a one time event, it is repeated every year. The building of Solomon's temple to the sun is nothing more than April - October. It is destroyed every year and this is nothing more than moving from summer to winter. The demise of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam; would be a blessing to the planet.
Also note where the Latin Terra is the "father" of Abram (spring), Haran (summer), and Nahor (winter). Nahor, the snorting horse, is Sagittarius (November).
Same old same old when it comes to most people admitting their own belief system has questionable tenets. I think Derek would have to find another Hebrew scholar to highlight the wobbly parts of Judaism and associated scriptures. Singer gives us a useful point of view for how Orthodox Jews view Christianity and NT, so it's all a good education. In particular I enjoy his humour!
Please give us HIS ACCEPTABLE TEXT FOR ISAIAH 61, and what source he is using
I got ahold of this I will agree with One thing primarily, there are very few Christians who understand this message the Christ was trying to bring.
That can very well include Paul.
Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord!
Tyrone Broner Brilliant arguments and counter-points, polytheist. Very Christian. But lord what, polytheist? Define it.
To Prove the point further on the lies of the book of Hebrews, they forgot to clean up the rest of the chapter they added to.
Hebrews 10:5
Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: "Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me
Brenton Septuagint
Psalms 39:7
Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not; but a body hast thou prepared me: whole-burnt-offering and sacrifice for sin thou didst not require.
Brenton Septuagint
Psalms 39:13
13 For innumerable evils have encompassed me; (my transgressions) have taken hold of me...
Who is this transgressor if this Psalm is about Jesus?
One more point, If God does not require sacrifices, why would he give a body for a sacrifice?
Always read the entire chapter, the Christians love to isolate verses to deceive.
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What is your email address or the best way to contact you?
*Dayvaughn Mays:* Actually the verse is Psa. 40:7 (v.6 in a Christian 'bible') and it says _nothing_ about a "body". The Hebrew for this verse actually says:
_Sacrifice and offerings You did not desire; _*_but my ears you opened for me._*_ Burnt offerings and sin offerings You have not required._
So the verse has been grossly mistranslated by Christianity, as have a lot of others, to justify this false, pagan religion!
Janis Hart it’s all false Janis, all made up horseshit. I might as well study of five-year-olds coloring book and start to make doctrine of it. It’s basically the same damn thing.
@@janishart5128 it's not Pagan it's a Christian just corruption with Mystic full shade ideas that it probably picked up from Hellenic but also other things support their dead Colt
@@yaruqadishi8326: See my previous reply. Christianity IS definitely "pagan"!
You may have asked the non-Muslims who have an agenda against Islam but did you bother to ask any Muslims about Islam??
There are three sets of recensions of the Hebrew texts from the Dead Sea Scrolls, not just one. There is one very close to the Septuagint, one similar to Masoretic and one similar to the Samaritan.
Hyam Mccoby's book is incredibly fascinating! I highly recommend it!
It really did deconstruct Paul, didn't it?
@@savtamarlene as best as i recall
Jesus could have saved the early church alot of trouble if he'd appeared after his resurrection and said, " Look boys, I'm getting out of Dodge, but I'll be sending you one of my main buds, a dude named Paul. Don't have a hissy fit when he starts laying it on ya. I'm gonna fast track im. Gonna appear to him in a vision. So don't sweat it and go all bonkers when he gets in your face." But unfortunately it didn't go down that way. There was no heads up. There was no advance notice. There was ..nothing.
I like your jesus :)
@@mushypeasplease8872 " cough, cough, cough, " .. I like your Jesus, I just have a problem with you Christians. -- some guy from India.
@@krispalermo8133 That was Mahatma Ghandi!
I think he said he will come back very soon [some standing here will not die ......] Paul was plan B
I'm an X Christian for over 30 year's.
No I don't believe in the resurrection but I think it's quite possible that there was a historical Jesus who
was crucified but was revived...he didn't have a literal death.
However, the name Jesus was quite common in those days and thousands upon thousands of people
we're crucified...it was a common way of execution back then.
Google julian johnson jesus , read the letter
Well, I would think the thing about muzzling the oxen works both ways, because it's like this:
In taking the same theme or principle from not muzzling oxen while it's treading the grain, you can also apply that to Christians. So, if God wants you to not deprive animals while they work for men, why would God want to deprive men while they work for God? You know what I mean? And sure, God does care about animals, but doesn't He care more about people? I thought that He conveys this throughout the Bible. After all, He permits the sacrificing of animals, but does He permit the sacrificing of humans? Of course not! :)
This is what I meant in the comment on the Aron Ra video about how they draw certain principles and themes out of OT passages and then puts them into a different context. It's not like they think that the OT context doesn't exist, but that there's something to be "gleaned", I guess you could say, from it.
If Paul means to say that the OT passage didn't apply at all, then he's wrong; but he does use what's going on, because he says that it would be hindering the work of God for them to be deprived, and that's the idea with the oxen not being able to eat: they're not going to be inclined nor energized to finish the work.
Love is food = grain for the soul = oxen, its a two way street, LOVE BEGETS LOVE, thats the MYSTIC MEANING
Neat
Examine what Yeshua The Christ said
John 10:24-27 KJV
[24] Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. [25] Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. [26] But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. [27] My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Rabbi Tovia singer as a jew who speak's native hebrew would understand what he is talking about in regards to the old testament.
You may not like it because it debunks the new testament as well as you're jesus but it's irrelevant that you do not like it.
Because fact's do not care for you're personal desires/feeling's for they are irrelevant to fact's.
Take a parallel and ask: How many centuries will mormons and jehowas vitnesses religions last?
The rabbi supposes that the book of Hebrews was written by Paul. In fact the consensus among biblical scholars is that Paul did not write Hebrews. As Prof. Bart Ehrman notes: "There is no reason to think that Paul wrote Hebrews, but it was eventually included in the canon by church fathers who argued that it was Paul’s. In fact, the writing style is completely different from Paul’s; the leading themes of the letter are absent from Paul’s other letters, and the mode of argumentation is not at all like his. And why should one think Paul wrote it? Unlike his own writings, this book is anonymous."
No the Rabbi did not say that. He said that Paul would give the writer of Hebrews an A+!
It’s irrelevant, since he’s not debating who the author is. He’s countering arguments made by people that believe Paul wrote it.
@@airforcex9412 I was only trying to express that we must be careful when wontedly throwing out statements that aren’t believed to be factual. I agree with your statement but feel we all should say things like “the author of Hebrews says” instead of Paul says. Same with the rest of the NT. We should say “it is written that Jesus said” or “the author of the gospel of John says.” That way, in our speech, we make it clear to all that neither we nor anyone else knows if Jesus said this or that. Or even if the apostles existed as described in these books and letters. For what it’s worth I personally believe the entirety of the NT is fiction. And I lean towards it being Roman propaganda invented by the Flavians.
Josephus was Paul
Wrong
@@judahmaccabee9148 If you read his works you know right away the two people are the same person. Paul AKA Josephus was a traitor to YHWH and the Hebrew people
@@scripturaltruth7636 Don't bear false witness on people, Paul had way more knowledge of Christ than Josephus did.
@@judahmaccabee9148 *Paul's Contradictions of Jesus*
Here is a list of the major contradictions by Paul of things Jesus taught:
www.jesuswordsonly.com/books/175-pauls-contradictions-of-jesus.html
*Paul Versus the Disciples*
It is a common misconception amongst Christians that Paul and the Apostles of Christ were unanimous in their preaching of a crucified Jesus. Christians think that the apostles and Paul were preaching the same doctrine and everyone believed in the divine Jesus who came to be crucified for the sins of the world. However, if one examines the bible carefully, that person would observe that Paul and the disciples were not preaching the same doctrine and did not believe in the same Jesus.
The Apostles in Jerusalem heard that Paul has been preaching a different doctrine in Galatia and Corinthia. Paul was telling them not to follow the law anymore and that they don’t have to eat kosher meat anymore or to be circumcised (according to Genesis 17::14, the covenant is broken if there is no circumcision) etc. So the Apostles went to Galatia and Corinthia and convinced everyone that Paul is wrong, when Paul heard about this he went straight back to the cities………
*Galatians 1:6*
6I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a *different gospel*
*It says different Gospel, so obviously the disciples were teaching them a different doctrine and and it was not just minor issues*
*Galatians **2:11**-21*
*Paul Opposes Peter*
11When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong. 12Before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. ( *why did people such as the Apostle James still believe that the law regarding food should still be applied? If Jesus came to replace the law, then why are they still following the law?* ) 13The other Jews joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray. ( *so, Peter, James and Barnabas are wrong?* )
14When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs?
15"We who are Jews by birth and not 'Gentile sinners' 16know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified. ( *why are they arguing over following the law or not? Why are they not in agreement of doctrine?* )
17"If, while we seek to be justified in Christ, it becomes evident that we ourselves are sinners, does that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not! 18If I rebuild what I destroyed, I prove that I am a lawbreaker. 19For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. 20I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"
*Paul condemns all Jewish Christians including Peter and Barnabas. We only have Paul’s side of the story but Peter’s recollection of this story is not given to us in the New Testament*
*Peter truly would have known Jesus better than Paul. There is dispute whether 1 Peter is a letter written by Peter and almost all scholars, ancient and modern agree that 2 Peter is not a letter written by Peter*
*Acts **4:31*
31After they prayed, the place where they were meeting was shaken. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God boldly.
*If Peter was filled with the Holy Spirit then why is Paul calling Peter a hypocrite for eating with the Gentiles and then when people came from James he got up. James is Jesus’ half brother, he lived and stayed with Jesus. Why did he still think that people have to eat kosher meat? We don’t have any account of Peter’s story regarding this incident. Barnabas is also called a hypocrite in verse 13. Look how in verses 15 thought 17 Paul is arguing with them about the law. That means the disciples wanted to follow the law and suggested following it. Otherwise Paul wouldn’t have mentioned it. How could he say those things to Peter and look what Jesus said about Peter*
Matthew 16:18
8And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
*Paul said in Romans that all food is clean*
Romans 14:20
20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble.
*In the Book of Acts the Apostles wrote a letter to the gentiles to abstain from certain foods and that not all foods were declared clean*
*Acts **15:29*
29You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell.
*Galatians 3:1-3*
1You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard? 3Are you so foolish?
*Obviously we have people that are disagreeing with him. If Jesus taught that the law is over clearly, then people would not be arguing over this*
*2 Corinthians 11:4-5*
4For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. 5But I do not think I am in the least inferior to those "super-apostles."
*This is all doctrine and again he is criticizing the disciples*
2 Corinthians 11: 22-24
What anyone else dares to boast about-I am speaking as a fool-I also dare to boast about. 22Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they Abraham's descendants? So am I. 23Are they servants of Christ? (I am out of my mind to talk like this.) I am more. I have worked much harder, been in prison more frequently, been flogged more severely, and been exposed to death again and again. 24Five times I received from the Jews the forty lashes minus one.
*Again he is comparing himself to the disciples. If this man were truly doing all this work for God, he would not be complaining about his pain and torturing and suffering. If he is truly sincere he would not have mentioned those things. Prophets and messengers never complained and boasted about their sufferings*
*Conclusion*
So it is clear from the Bible it self that not everyone believed in the Jesus who came to get crucified for the sins of the world and to replace the law. That there were different amongst the Apostles and Paul. The Apostles stuck to the true teachings of Jesus, which was upholding the law and that the Apostles who lived with Jesus know him better than Paul who never even saw Jesus except in a "vision".
Paul corrupted the Hebrew scriptures and could not been a Pharisee
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Paul quoted a non existence prophecy
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Was Paul a rabbi ignoramus or charlatan
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@@judahmaccabee9148 No he didn't. He never met or saw Jesus, so both knew about the same based on 2nd hand information.
Jesus mission: O Israel , our lord is One ☝️. Where does he preach and die for Christianity religion ??? 😁
Cant wait for william lane craigs response amirite
Craigs response: because the Bible says so. SMH.
What assures me that Jesus is what he claims to be is the rejection of the Jews until today of him.
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You have been taught to hate Jews. They were there. Nothing happened.
Yes, it's just more proof that what it says in the book of John is true. He came to his own, but his own did not receive him, but to those who did, he gave them the right to become children of God.
Would you then consider yourself a Noahide?
I have much to say, and I feel you would have interest. Are you available to discuss these matters?
It seems like my comments are being deleted, but I’m not sure for what reason?!
The volume is too low.
Eze 22:30 “And I sought for a man among them who would make a wall, and stand in the breach before Me on behalf of the land, that I should not destroy it - but I did not find one!
3:40 DO NOT apologize. You have nothing to apologize for. Truth is the goal here.
Derek Lambert, Tanakh is basically the OT. Torah is instruction/law and refers to the first 5 books only.
They sometimes sat they learn Latin and Greek because it helps with English words derived from Latin and Greek - but they could just teach the Latin and Greek roots to do that.
BTW though... dynamic knowledgeable guy... awesome
What was the reason though?
Well that was interesting, and really went some way to explain why I've always found the pagan elements of Christianity far more appealing than the Jewish background. As to the early NT writers misusing earlier writings, surely the OT writers were doing the same by borrowing from earlier mythology?
Yes. This is almost certainly true. If you are so inclined, look into the Samaritan religion. It's very very very similar to Judaism. It's as if both used the same text but interpreted a little differently or modified it a little differently.
It doesn’t bother those involved in Judaism that the Elohim were plural and in Jeremiah they were worshipping the Queen of Heaven like the Catholics and are actually polytheistic because they lie to themselves to say they are monotheistic.
He’s having a debate assuming the listener (Christian and Jew) actually believe their text, like he does. He’s not debating an atheist making your points.
Look what Isaiah wrote John 12:37-41 KJV
[37] But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him: [38] That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed? [39] Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again, [40] He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them. [41] These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
Hate speech law in Canada specifically allows "hate speech" if it is a sincere religious belief.
Dosen't he sound like Chief John from food wishes ?
*Joel Sacrafamilia:* No, not really - his voice isn't 'musical' enough! 😉
I must respectfully correct the rabbi's statement... In Jeremiah 38:32, in the Septuagint, it does not say that God "rejected them". The verse says: 32. not according to the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day when I took hold of their hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; for they abode not in my covenant, and I disregarded them, saith the Lord.
33. For this is my covenant which I will make with the house of Israel; after those days, saith the Lord, I will surely put my laws into their mind, and write them on their hearts; and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people.
So as we can see, not only does it not say "rejected" but verse 33 continues on to tell a future prophecy for Israel returning to the land that was given to their forefathers.
If we look at the definition for the word "disregard" in the Merriam-Webster dictionary, we will find: "to pay no attention to : treat as unworthy of regard or notice". Which in this case is true due to the disobedience of Israel. And it is established in verse 33 that Israel will return. It is in agreeance within itself and NOT the forged New Testament.
Yeah, it's the singer not the song. Paul sung it well!
As a Christian… it never would have occurred to me that there was intentional deception going on in “the word of god” I mean, there were lots of brilliant people studying the Bible…. Surely someone would have noticed,
I was a Christian for 50 years. A student of the word, but only used those books that were ‘approved’ by Christians for Christians as references. It was when I Brock out of that box and began using all study aids available that my eyes were opened to the TRUE truth.
Ardy Hagen They would indeed, and that's why it's intentional. To be a Christian is to be a willful liar and a willful self-deceiver.
One of the problems with Christianity is that most sermons are either solely about the New Testament or are Joel Osteen style sermons that have very little to do with either the New or Old Testament. Most of Joel Osteen type sermons resemble improved Tony Robbins motivational type lectures on how to be successful in life or resemble get rich quick schemes.
Deuteronomy 4:2 basically says not to substitute Joel Osteen type material for the Old Testament as Joel Osteen type sermons support Christianity’s adulterous & idolatrous worship of idols, money & financial success.
The reason the Old Testament or Tanakh is so important is that the Old Testament is more or less a history book of the human race. And if you don’t learn from history, you are doomed to repeat the same mistakes you have made in the past. The main problem with the New Testament is that in terms of a history book, it only goes back to the time of JC. The New Testament just doesn’t cover a very long time period. The Old Testament goes back to creation of the universe and covers a much larger time frame.
The big question is about whether or not Christians should be worried in the least.
The answer is found in Isaiah 27:1 with the Leviathan representing Christianity. G - - always lives up to His promises. Of course, you would only know this fact if you have read the Old Testament. Another thing to consider if you are well read in the Tanakh is that the Levites lived on tithes in exchange for teaching G - -‘s word to the populace. Not long after the prophet Joshua died, the Levi group of priests much like Joel Osteen began teaching the populace more about what they felt the populace wanted to hear with the motivation largely being to get the biggest donations. Once Jews re-instituted idol worship & turned away from worshipping G - -, G - - had approximately 95% of the Jewish population massacred first by the Assyrian army and then by the Babylonian army. Only a small remnant of Jews survived. G - -‘s punishment for the Jews was considerably worse than what happened to Jews in World War II in terms of percentage of the population massacred. And G - - considered Jews His children. So if you think Christians will somehow escape G - -‘s wrath from idolatrous Joel Osteen type preaching, then think again as G - - doesn’t have the same type of relationship with Christians due to Christian worship of JC as their savior. Isaiah 27:1 will eventually prevail, and G - - will very likely not spare even a single Christian artery or vein.
Additionally, the Christian version of the Old Testament has been severely altered and is not usable. Go to Sefaria.org or Chabad.org to get an unaltered free online version.
Additionally, what does the Tanakh or history of the human race say about false prophets/ preachers who lead their sheep-like followers astray for massive financial gain? Well, it never, ever ends well. For example, mega-preacher Gwen Shamblin Lara who instead of teaching Tanakh based scripture, tried to get Christians to lose weight through nutrition. Gwen Shamblin Lara perished at a very young age in a plane crash along with her husband and 5 other church leaders. And the list of Christian-type totaL disasters goes on.
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