McLaren’s dramatic F1 2023 turnaround explained
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- McLaren’s Formula 1 revival was on shaky ground for the first half of 2023, but its recent upturn in form gives hope to fans of the papaya team that it’s very much back on target.
Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri starred in qualifying at the British Grand Prix, taking second and third on the grid. They would have finished there, but for an unfortunately-timed safety car that meant Piastri dropped to fourth behind Lewis Hamilton.
That’s a dramatic turnaround for a team that was at the back as recently as the Miami Grand Prix in May and looked in danger of falling permanently behind its midfield rivals. The car was so impressive at Silverstone that Lewis Hamilton called it “a rocketship".
So was this a one-off, or are there signs of a genuine resurgence for McLaren? What changes has it made to its car and what still needs to be done if its to re-emerge as a front running force in the coming years?
00:00 A change of fortunes
00:49 The road to recovery
03:59 Big upgrades
07:22 Much more to come
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It's the chrome paint guys. Now all they need to do is get Vodafone back onboard and Max can say goodbye to that 3rd title.
good one😆😆
ron dennis and lewis back on board soon
Word!
Get Lucazade back to get that mandatory energy drinks branding. 😅
If they could get the white and red Marlboro livery again they'd be unstoppable .
Norris being able to keep the Mercedes with softs behind him despite being on hards is super impressive. I was sure both McLarens were gonna fall behind right after the restart.
I think we all were. Norris did a fantastic job today.
Yes, but the Mercedes had used softs, not new ones. With new ones it might have been a different story, especially on the first two laps of the restart that Hamilton was all over Norris. But after Lando got his tires warmed up he was gone. Also fairly at the same time Hamilton's softs started suffering with overheating because of all the fighting, so he had to back off or he would lose the place to Piastri on the long run.
But the updates worked, which is awesome to see. the more teams start understanding how to catch up RB, the better. It would be nice if 2024 was far more competitive with several teams fighting for the titles. And since I don't trust Ferrari will do it, it's nice to see other teams gaining performance.
yeah raceing off and kickin about as a gazelle on steroids. Pretty impressive piece of prey. pfieuw, glad he did :D
Yeah, the Merc is too slow on the straights and the McLaren was much faster
@@The_Curious_Cat3 laps old tires.
Must've felt weird for Hamilton to watch a chrome McLaren blaze around Silverstone like that. Like a strange deja vu, except from someone else's perspective.
Tiny bit of psychological warfare. Make em think it's the McLaren of the old days!
Its cool that he seemed to be happy that Mclaren was where they belonged to be: on the podium. Considering his rookie season, I'm sure he's happy that Mclaren got great drivers like Piastri and Norris.
@@disistheway2679As a McLaren fan, both George and Lewis commenting on how fast the McLarens were made me extremely happy.
IKR, even with the chromed livery and all
@@ninetailedfox579121 yeah, its been a depressing season for us, but this turns up and we're like WOW
i love how the field constantly changing behind max this season
Same! 🍻 It's been really entertaining
Absolutely... even Checo has been kind enough to join the fun.
@@soundscape26ouch baby ouch
Proof that the regs are working… if you ignore max
@@nemesisf1 Abselutely mate! we're gonna ignore max whole season
My biggest disappointment of the race was seeing Piastri losing out because of the safety car/pit stop timing. He truly deserved to be on the podium 💪
I felt exactly the same,
But since it’s Lewis getting the spot at his home gp makes it ok for me
Piastri will shine in Hungaria and spa
@@awaaljowderLH only overtoook one driver; Alonso. Everything else was a gift handed to him by the safety car gods. Should have honestly been Piastri’s maiden podium.
@@beanot2622 Max, Lewis, and Norris were running long on the mediums. It paid dividends….. is this your first time watching F1 ?
@@beanot2622 yes I 100% agree with you and would loved to see piastri take it but what I’m saying is altleast Hamilton took it at home.
@@MP422ownz ad hominem bro. Still doesn’t change the fact that LH benefited the most from luck out of any driver yesterday. Silverstone is probably not a track where a safety car is guaranteed anyways.
I thoroughly enjoyed this race and seeing McLaren back fighting with the top was amazing to watch!
Would love to see a video like this about Williams. Both teams seem to be making significant gains
Think it's track specific.
Especially after having their floor mocked by everybody a month ago or so.
They are in p7 in the championship
@@imibuks-replitexactly. They were 9th before silverstone.
Piastri is really underrated, he almost matched norris with fewer upgrades😮😮
He might win in the Mclaren before Norris does.
@@ndh06 That would be really funny (for everyone except for Lando)
@@ndh06that's not saying much seeing as Daniel has a win in a McLaren and he was clearly much worse lol
I think piastri is the better driver. He's still a rookie and looked faster than Norris. Piastri may be great in a couple of years
@@racecarrik so very well said but if Piastri wins people arent going to be saying "but Piastri is much worse" if he keeps up this form.
If we ignore Max, this is one of the most exciting seasons we’ve had in years
I prefer to ignore Max as much as possible.
Someone is triggered.....
If we ignored the car that was "too dominant" then it's true. It's just a thing we need to consider to enjoy the Season tbh
I agree. The battle between, Merc, AMR, and uh Ferrari I guess is really close. And now McLaren and Williams are starting to cook.
Formula 1 is dead. It's just a money and influence and political game right now. No real motorsports, just pure drama and theatre. GT3 racing and endurance racing where the real motorsports spirit is.
Glad to see them back on the podium! It was a rough start to the season, glad to see they’ve got a quick car to match both their quick drivers.
As a lifelong McLaren fan, it's great to see them competing again and I hope they can continue to develop. It's a pity the Red Bull is dominant on all tracks rather than having strengths and weaknesses. If the RB was also weaker in some places, this would be an incredible season.
They just have the perfect car design. Such a wide operating window. It's crazy how they can just dominate completely different tracks like, Silverstone, Monaco, and Baku. Even in Mercedes dominance their cars had weaknesses, never really being that good around Austria Redbull ring, hot climate tracks with the tyres or even Monaco sometimes.
RB are weaker at certain tracks. Monaco, Australia, Silverstone, Canada etc weren‘t that insanely dominant for them. Max and RB simply put everything together every single race weekend in a fashion that we‘ve probably never seen before, not even from Ferrari in the Schumacher era. They are the best team that I‘ve ever seen operationally
RB weakness are in the slow speed corner, but their weakness are not as severe as McLaren or other team, and they have monster top speed to compensate that. So in the track that dominate by slow speed corner and short straight they can be challenge like we see in Monaco.
Why is it a pity? It's fantastic what they've developed.
@@antasena6043and the secret weapon: their triple-DRS
I've watched F1 for 30 yesrs and Oscar's race was one of the best debut season drives I've ever seen. He absolutely maximised the package he had and was unlucky to not get P3. He barely put a foot wrong. Unbelievable.
I have also watched for over 30 years and he is doing a great job and mostly keeping up with Lando, who is blisteringly fast. I'm so happy McLaren now have a car that is at least competitive and races will be more interesting.
i wonder to what degree simracing does help out, in organising a broader sense of awareness. In short: is damagecontrole awareness better imprinted at this generation? Impressed how Piastri is not nervous in a nervous car and also not in a new setting. I saw more clean racing of him than today. Yeah great addition.
the way he got in Max's way to free Lando without being a buffoon about it those first couple laps alone was really impressive, a lot of rookies would have botched it with that assignment and he did really well to both accomplish that and hang on in 3rd (and then 4th after the SC)
He does drive like he's in f1 for years.
Yes, he's an old head on young shoulders. When was the last time a rookie hasn't binned half a dozen cars trying to be competitive.
I’ll believe it after a few races considering how Aston Martin started their season and where they’ve been the last few races.
Still makes me sad. I want alonso back up there.
Their car suits the mid and low corners more. Hard braking and acceleration zones. Let's see in Hungary
@@harry4454 But then, most of the tracks are closer to Barcelona and Silverstone than hungary. One thing also people don't talk Mclaren solved a bit, they were very slow on straight line speed and they have been very good in the long straight of Silverstone.
After this race it is certain that Aston is weaker in a straightline but great in high downforce tracks
the aston martin isn't good on high speed front limited circuits,their strengths comes from their very good rear end that powers them out of corners and benefits them at medium speed corners,thats why they were very good in monaco and canada and more,meanwhile in austria, silverstone and spain has many high speed front limited corners that exposes their weakness,hungary with its slow to medium speed corners should in theory suit them
I think people should wait for a race or 2 before claiming that x or y team will challenge redbull because almost every team on the grid has been poised as challenging redbull, only to falter the next race because suddenly another team is the best of the rest. As Max said, he’s benefitting because the best of the rest is constantly changing and they’re just taking points off each other.
One race Austrja,two race UK 😂
@@tudor3232 i mean one or two more races from now.
Exactly!!!!!!
Nobody should be thinking red bull will lose the WDC or WCC. By challenge, we mean be competitive against on future weekends. The championship won't be contested until at least next year. Talking about points right now is meaningless.
This weekend McLaren looked spectacular everywhere. That livery is stunning and the uniforms looked fantastic.
yeah? hmm to me it looked asif it was a discarded episode of starwars. XD Yeah only thing creating a difference between Lando and a student-mechanic was his bottle of champagne. XD
I love seeing mclaren come alive like they did, but seeing how quickly they were able to get tires up to temp compared to others still makes me wonder how they will do on more wear heavy tracks or warmer conditions. But I really hope they're able to keep this pace from now on.
Incredible that a rookie is so close to one of the best on the grid with fewer upgrades
Petition to keep chrome and permanently ditch the E-ink screens
I DESPERATELY want them to keep the chrome. It feels like it belongs on the car and it looks so rad.
@@e.lake13 But the chrome is for Mercedes and McLaren are not sponsored by Mercedes anymore? Hence the shift from the chrome livery to dark grey and red livery during the 2015 season, even under Ron Dennis.
@@TassieLorenzo don't care. Keep the chrome lol
This tells you a lot of how good the chassis is. Even without a state of the art windtunnel they have been able to develop it quite well. Also keep in mind that only Red Bull and Mclaren are the only cars with a front pull rod rear pushrod suspension configuration (everyone else keep the previous push rod/pull rod or some other variant). since the suspension arms deflect the air below/over the car is not surprise copying the RB style will have additional benefits.
One of the issues I have is how much of the improvement was due to the new tyre construction and/or how much this change damage Merc/AM/Ferrari? Hungary will be a big test for them.
Lando ran a lesser downforce setup for the Silverstone weekend, so we probably didn't really even see a time gain from it, or at least not to it's full potential. I expect we'll see how this affects downforce at Hungary.
Great to see customer teams performing so well
The simplification of the top of floor geometry suggests they can now rely on the airflow itself rather than having to introduce directionality and vorticity to get air cleanly to the diffuser end - this should make the car more controllable and presumably the front wing changes are also related. If they have a more stable platform for turn-in it would represent massive upgrade even without adding raw pace, but the two combined is a quantum leap
Sad that Piastri wasn't able to clinch a podium in Silverstone. But if Mclaren continue like this in progress, he'll get another shot in the near future. Lando could be on his way to get another podium as well if conditions are right.
Really hope they can keep their progress up. More competition at the front is always appreciated.
See I'm a die hard Lewis fan but I've always been a huge fan of McLaren ever since I was a kid back in the Schumacher days in the Ferrari & to see McLaren slowly coming back is great same with Williams still a very long way to go tho because we've seen both get close but slip back again but I think all the changes in both teams is amazing & I hope to see McLaren & Williams back at the front where they belong
What we get in this UK Grand Prix is
1. McLaren Improvement in strategy and Development.
2. Mercedes Lucky Safety Cars and they gain advantage in this case
3. Ferrari Strategy backfire again
4. Albon Driver Master Class win against Ferrari and Alphine
5. Aston Martin the early advantage come to halt
6. Logans Almost got score 1 point for William
7. Perez still perez he got confident again and he use the advantage of Redbull car well
AM will still be strong at certain tracks, I’m sure Alonso will be on the podium in Hungary
@@hunterreeves6525I don't know if they've got another upgrade coming, maybe they've switched focus to 2024 given the aero testing scale has changed for them jumping P7 to P2/P3 in constructor.
So Perez got confident again because he passed back markers and midfield cars and that's using the advantage of the red bull car well?
Mclaren has another last 25% upgrade schedule for Hungary for its mechanical grip. Something most don't talk about, Mclaren is the only team with Redbull with the push rod suspension since last year. They had very good tire wear in this race, even lando's engineer was always asking Lando how was his tires.
Ferrari strategy backfire AGAIN. I'm basically watching F1 lately just to see how Ferrari can stuff things up and throw it away. If they had competent management they could have been seriously challenging for the championship last year but all the strategy and mechanical fails meant they didn't even get close. Leclerc is a proper talent, if he was in a competent team he'd be killing it. Versappen, Leclerc, and Norris are the 3 best drivers in the field atm, if we ever end up with 2 of them in the one team they will be unstoppable, as long as that team isn't Ferrari.
What happened to the colors and logos at 8:49 ? Multiple pairs not matching
Fascinating video, many thanks for bring this quality video to the masses
Thanks for making it all easy to understand for those who don’t watch F1 regularly!
As a dedicated McLaren fan who's with them in good and ill this is incredibly gratifying to see. Now i hope they can keep this progress going with the new wind tunnel due to be finished this year. Great job Zak and co! And great job Norris and Piastri!
+1. Dont get the Zak hate - he's a brash character for sure but his job is getting the resources the team needs, so he's chasing sponsors, and being very successful at it. He's not the team principal - which makes me wonder if Seidl, as nice a guy as he seems, was actually not that good at the job.
With Stella and the new people in place next year, and the new wind-tunnel etc paid for by Zak's fundraising and on-line, maybe we can dare to dream
@@OscarTahr the rumor on the grape vine is that Seidl occasionally got bouts of analysis-paralysis, over analyzing a problem to find a solution instead of just starting over when something doesn't work. Stella seems to avoid that
@@trymetal95 Thanks, interesting. Fits with the impression I got of Seidl, quite the ‘engineering geek’ in a nice way. Seemed a hell of a nice bloke but results count.
Zak’s happy with attention so guess that makes him a target for criticism.
So basically now, as long as mclaren and williams keep up their pace, 2nd to 10th is basically just going to be track specific regarding what team is 2nd behind red bull and max
True. RBR is strong on each track. Other teams have track specific strenghts
Love the technical speak in these vids - makes me sound smart with my f1 friends 😂
Impressive how close Piastri was to Norris. That gap between them pretty much equates to the new front wing. Although i think Norris will be a little further ahead in Hungary at a more technical track. Piastri is a huge talent, i firmly believe Mclaren have the best lineup long term on the grid
Mika Hakkenin predicted this type of performance from McClaren a couple weeks back!
Right now Norris is the obvious team leader. However, Piastri is surely only going to improve over the coming years. I wonder if Norris will start to feel more threatened by Piastri. Next season will be interesting, particularly if Piastri takes another step in his development.
Who had the Black and White flag🤔 you will see Oscar go ahead this year. Still not in equal cars.. 11th F1 race after 1 year out remember..
It's all thanks to this incredible chrome livery that we all miss !
Bring it back for all races please !
It's the tires; Pirelli made re-inforced tires for this GP, in addition to the fact that three hardest compounds were used. This allowed McLaren to exploit the upgrades and hide that they were very hard on the tires. In some other tires configuration, they would probably drop 7-8-9 positions back as all those cars more stable on any compound overtake them. Its great to see them back.
I don't think that the hardest three compounds were used in British GP. It was C1,C2 and C3. The hardest compound in 2023 season C0 was not used.
Exactly!!!
@@catchnkill C0 isnt used yet. C1 always was the hardest before C0 was new introduced this season. So the C1 is for us 'the hardest' compound so far
I’ll admit I’d lost faith in them - great to see them build on the Austria race and looking legit at the front!
8:49 Not sure the graphic on screen is quite accurate in terms of team colours.
This new paint job is quick!
The graphic at 8:50 has the Merc and AM colours the wrong way around
It’s very encouraging just how many teams can be fighting for the podium and for the last few points. It’s just a shame there’s only one that’s winning
8:50 colours wrong btw
Max is a beast now more than ever. But if he was taken out of this years equation we’d have 2012 mkII on our hands
What a bs comment
@@gealingeman8643 How so? Max is as close to unbeatable as anyone has ever been in F1. And the points gap between P2 and P4 is only 35 points.
8:51 that graph is extra funky with Orange Haas, blue Mclaren and White Williams lol
People laughed at Mika Hakkinen for saying this exact thing a few weeks back.
8:48 Some of the coloured bars seem to have got mixed up here
Piastri is really showing up. Very impressive as I think Lando is a super talent.
Are you done making post race podcasts?
In the graphic at 8mins 48s, are Merc & Aston Martin the wrong way round?
The bar for Merc is British Racing Green, whereas that for AM is turquoise blue.
Not that there's much difference between the two either way. Lol
Saturday showed me that DRS should be disabled during qualifying regardless of conditions, it’s an overtaking tool, and there is functionally no actual overtaking happening in qualy. Obviously not something the fia would just up and do, but with how well q1 and q2 went. I think they definitely should.
😂😂😂 new to F1?? DRS is part of the car. Just like tyre chose and set up, each driver/team has the same options. If you want a better DRS......DESIGN IT!
Who is the aero fella getting the orange mclaren team up the front ?
On the chart at 8:54 A lot of the team colours seem to have gotten jumbled.... Just a heads up!
That chrome livery is brilliant, with Google chrome as a major sponsor its a no brainer surely?
Way obvious that the heavy but slippery chrome paint scheme and awesome new race suits changed the MCL60 handling and aero.
Honestly, I have zero idea why race control called for a virtual safety car when there was an bbq on the race track! As if you could send marshalls on track to put out the fire and tow the car under a virtual. It ruined a chance for Oscar to be on the podium.
Maybe they did it to help the Brittish drivers.
Lewis looking to that silver Mclaren:
Miss you my old friend.
oi then he really is funny-farm material.
ofcourse. Mclaren now is ten times more fresh, exiting and exotic than the team he is at. :P
I just dont care about random people on the internet. Bye!
I hope these are the first real signs of all the teams getting closer together in terms of performance and the decade old idea of there being a few "top teams" that can fight for a win while the rest don't stand a chance slowly goes away and everyone gets their moment in the sun once in a while. That is of course, once they've managed to catch up with Red Bull.
You missed out the biggest and best upgrade the chrome paint 😊
I have to admit i never thought they'd make such a recovery.
It seems that they fixed the straight line speed too.
I don't think people quite realize just how good Piastri is yet. It's his rookie season and he's already competitive with Norris, who's probably the 4th or 5th best driver on the grid right now. Piastri has the potential to be the next Verstappen or Hamilton. He's going to be freakin' scary.
Track specific upgrade is my hunch
Surprised they fit these upgrades in the budget cap
Theyve already said the low speed corners are where theyre very much lacking, the high speed corners are where they gain time and thats what silverstone has a lot of
Correct. But if he summarizes a video like that - he can't be repetitive and stretch it out to 10 minutes for that TH-cam cash.
drowe two holes make it split at fronter, might be controlling the white noise keeps lower for drivers
At 8:49, Aston's and Mercedes are reversed, is mercedes or aston stronger on that graph? 🤔
Whatever the name is of the bloke that designed the scallop/gutter/groove on the Ferrari for last year definitely deserves some praise for thinking about it before everyone else
i was so happy both for mclaren and lando. awesome race :)
Congratulations to Lando and Oscar on an amazing performance in this Sunday's Grand Prix.
I wonder what TD or 2024 rule change Merc will try to force through this season?
8:49 the graphic looks mixed up
next year is shaping up to be a hype year for f1 tho. hopefully something along the lines of 2012.
Love to see it 🔥
How they’ve made this big a leap in the era of the cost cap, CFD testing limits, and wind tunnel limits, without the 2026 wind tunnel upgrades, I have no idea.
You know, first of all engineers have to have good ideas. All the tools come after that. They are important, no question, but there still has to sit the right person in front of the screen
I think in Hungary we'll see Aston move back up towards the front, maybe Mercedes too, but I honestly think that McLaren might well be on par with Ferrari from this point on. I'm sure there will be races where we see Alpine further up too, but they overall see to be off the back of the front group where McLaren will be firmly inside that group going forward.
Although i love McLaren coming back, they are very slow in low speed corners. Thankfully the rest of the calendar consists mainly in high speed circuits.
Probably. AMs are very fast on slow corners, which Hungary track is famous for. Lando said this on post race debrief.
“But we do have a poor car - and I say poor, I would say pretty terrible - in the slow-speed corners, extremely difficult to drive. I feel we’re getting excited and I accept that, but we're going to go to a couple of tracks coming up where I'm sure people are going to be saying, ‘What have you done now? How has it got so bad all of a sudden?!’
Stick with the chrome. Worth a second a lap ;-) The new wind tunnel is paying off. Piastri looks like a real talent. Hamilton must have got deja vu, he won the title with a chrome McLaren in 2008.
I think the McLaren performance window has increased but Mercedes and Aston are probably still ahead in the majority of tracks still to come
I'd love to see Norris in a car equivalent to the RB19. Watching Norris and Verstappen fight it out in equal cars would be so much fun to watch!
I’m just curious to see how they do at Spa.
I’m happy for them, but I half expect them to start on the back foot next year like always
The reason they started on the back foot this season was because they realised their previous design concept was unworkable and they had to abandon it to work on a new one. The upgrades are the parts of the new design concept that they managed to finish after starting over. Hopefully next year they can just continue with this design and not have to start over.
@@stephen01king I know why they had to, it just isn’t a good excuse with how much the engineers are paid and how highly touted they are. They showed up to Bahrain this and last year with brakes that melted, and added on the front ferrings that would fall off. They blamed everything on Honda in 2017 then realized they designed a donkey in 2018. I for once would like to see em put their money where their mouth is
Sé que gracias al hype que ha suscitado McLaren este fin de semana, TheRaceEnEspañol sí doblará este video.
8:53 such a weird graph, Merc using AMR green, Haas using Mclaren orange
Almost a hole different car. Love it that they can these mods and still stick to regulations
8:48 who messed up all the colours 😂
ONE RACE! Let’s enjoy the podium but please it’s literally one race guys
If a team tried a new front wing in a race but only on one car, are they allowed to put that upgrade onto the second car during the race if they want?
By the time of the race, the parts locked In. During free practice they could have changed the wings out.
Also wasn’t it Russel George who said that it was rocket on hards
I believe the Haas, Williams and McLaren logos are switched on the graphic at 8:52
its gonna still struggle in tracks with a lot of low speed in them
it’s the mirror paint, folks. doesn’t matter if it’s vodafone or google just spray it on.
8:51 messed up the team colours/logos on the chart 😂
It was clearly the new painting, guys.
there cars always seem like they are fast but you have to be on the verry far edge of the cars proformance and when u push just a little to much it gives up but if you cant work it it just dosent work
If you remove Max, this is a genuinely amazing season in terms of whose at the top. At one point it was Aston, then Merc came back for a bit, then now McLaren. At this rate we might even see Williams be the car behind max at Monza.
and ferrari will forever be "😒😒"
I believe the Aston is still the second best car at most tracks
INCLUDING MAX'S INCREDIBLE DRIVING IN THE RB19, this is an exciting year to see other teams making progess and shine on different tracks. CHECO....DRIVES THE RB19 as well, remember..... where is he???
Love how someone messed up the colors for the teams there at 8:51 lmao
This was the most exciting race this season so far in my opinion.
Gr8 to see Mcl and Williams move up the grid....
Doesn’t this just highlight how poor alpine/Renault have been for years can’t remember a time when weve seen actual progress from them even tho theyve spent hundreds of millions over the years
Hilarious! Five minutes ago, everyone was talking about how "Aston Martin is the new king of the hill (After Red Bull of course), now it's McLaren. Sure, McLaren made great strides forward and that is evident not so much by Norris's ending at #2 on the podium, but more so by a rookie Oscar Piastri almost making it to # 3. However, this year shows that the competitiveness of the field keep it pretty much open. Yesterday it was Aston Martin, today it's McLaren, and who know who it's going to be next time...
Williams as well. Can we get a video for them? Poor Alpine and Alpha