How Red Bull’s ‘undriveable’ F1 car was finally beaten
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- It’s finally happened - Red Bull’s perfect 2023 is over and Max Verstappen’s F1 win streak has ended.
We all thought it would take something extraordinary and dramatic for Red Bull to be defeated. But actually, all it took was Red Bull to be…really, REALLY bad.
00:00 How Red Bull’s ‘undriveable’ F1 car was finally beaten
03:58 The other factors
07:42 An unwinnable race for Red Bull - this time
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As DC said during the Channel 4 broadcast, in 2015 the dominant Merc was absolutely nowhere in Singapore, then went to Suzuka and won 🤷🏻♀️.
ikr media and fans are blowing this so far out of the water.. RB's car just didn't suit Singapore, setup went the wrong way and strategy calls were very questionable.
Also Malaysia 2015. The first race in the turbo hybrid era where Mercedes was beaten on pure pace.
@@code01372 yea i dont think anyone actually thinks otherwise, we are just exited they finally didnt win
@@alistairwright3464 as his fan, I would of liked Max to stretch the win record even further given more races in a season now, however yeah happy for the people who are tired of the domination RB have been dishing out.
@shintaro.. I'm not a max fan by any means, but I'm definitely not a hater either. I'd have loved to see his win record extend a bit further. I also wanted red bull to win every rave of the season because that would have been just a crazy accomplishment.
I think it would have also guaranteed that the FIA or FOM management do something to hinder Red Bull in some way to try and bring the pack closer.
Honestly felt like Brazil. Just a setup error and bad weekend. I refuse to believe and give myself hope that they are nerfed and we’ll have exciting last races
Smart
Its gonna be some ez wins next time
Nerfed? Nope
They will back with 2x Buff
Feels more Mercedes in Germany 2019.
They were doing 1:38 on the closing laps vs 1:40 for the mercs!
Even the best teams in any sport have bad days. This was a bad day for RedBull. Mercedes had shockers when they dominated, so too did Ferrari back in the early 00s. Just how it works.
At least this is F1, you have a bad day in 2 or 3 races in a season, you can still become a champion. In a knockout tournament, a bad day can be right out game over.
Mercedes were never all out in Q2
@@arnoldmbuthia2687there were party mode before until season 16 iirc
Of course it had nothing to do with the new TD
The two cars closest to the RB19 performance (though still nowhere near as dominant as Max's car has been) were the 1988 McLaren MP4/4 and the 2016 Mercedes W07. Neither McLaren nor Mercedes saw their performance collapse the way RB's did in Singapore. Going from easily lapping 2 seconds faster than anyone else to finishing, effectively 7th and 10th (two cars that started ahead of the RBs failed to finish) is unprecedented for such a dominant car - probably the car with the greatest performance advantage over its rivals in the modern history of F1. So, no, F1 teams with super-dominant cars don't have bad days like this. The motorsport press has utterly failed to explain how the RB19 is so fast, so they can't really explain why to was so slow today, this interesting video notwithstanding.
Got to say, Red Bull have things so dialed in even their simulator can accurately show where they would struggle
Cheats simple
@@AndrewDRSWilliamson cope, mald, seethe
crazy good that team "Best team in Formula 1 history" - Peter Windsor
@@AndrewDRSWilliamsongrow up, do better man
@@saketchaturvedi1073 you believe that old washed up man 🤷♂️🤣
Ironically, it was the Singapore GP's record of 100% Safety Car which ended Red Bull's run for 100% wins.
TBH I think I agree. I hate doing non-reality posibilities but if Safety car wasn't around or it was 20 laps later it would mean Max would be at least top 3. They had bad luck with SC, they were also unlucky with VSC.
@@Frozander it's called a motorace. Okay Toto.
@@Frozandermaybe it it was 100 laps?
@@noahnas1587 i mean top 3? no, top 5 was always the case, the car was jsut... impossible to defend. but you have to admit that they made two bad calls. pitting and then two laps alter a crash. but you don't hear redbull go and call the race off unlike Merc after they failed to get new tires. showing how mature RB actually is.
@@Just_Flipy goes to show how important strategy and setup really is, if the rumoured 'fastest' car since w11 can be dethroned as quickly as that.
This is a whole investigative documentary on the race that took place not 12 hours ago at the moment of this video getting uploaded. I know most of the footage, graphic comparisons etc were made by somebody else, but finding it all and putting together like that is still quite impressive. Whoever orchestrated the whole video as well as the narrator really have their stuff together and the knowledge on the subject is impeccable. Mad respect
There is a whole team, that’s why
@@TheUKNutterstill… it’s impressive
Yeah kudos for this. Really great analysis of things that myself, as a big F1 fan but not a tech head, would frankly have not known about. It is crazy sometimes how fickle the sport can be with these almost invisible elements all at play, it’s nice having it explained and I’m in awe of those who can see it as it happens and explain it back. Ultimately I’m just watching cars go round a track for an hour and a half and if someone is going slow or fast, I don’t honestly think too much into the why of it all. I do think Sky F1 did do a better job this race of explaining the strategy of the race, how bunching the pack up led to stifling everyone through the field to capitalise with pit stops etc, it felt like an easier strategic race to follow due to their insight whereas in the past sometimes things happens that aren’t very well explained and so go over my head a touch. And yeah after all that sadly I’m an F1 fan of like 20 years so I should know better haha.
Actually not 20 years, more like 25 years. Followed it on and off since about 1990 (born in 84).
Singapore - the destroyer of invincible seasons
"There will be no perfect season" - Singaporean racing gods, probably.
So happy it was Carlos who made the most of the opportunity. He's really been brining it this year - a Rosberg-esque season so far.
Aerith Gainsborough (Cloud's Girlfriend) also happy that Sainz finally ended RB's very long domination.
Yes the Redbull was rubbish this weekend. That all said Max made 19 overtakes, if they were a bit more lucky with safety and virtual safety car he could have been fighting for the win.
Hats off for Carlos, he´s showing that emotional stability, and overall brain power, is sometimes more important than pure race craft.
Russel shows again that on deciding moments he is subject for mistakes.
they weren't rubbish all weekend. their race pace was fantastic. their qual pace was bad which is normal. just this week it was extra bad. without the SC, or a later safety car, max easily could have won.
Russell is similar to Leclerc in that regard. They are really fast, much faster than their Teammates most of the time, but Both want too much too fast and tend to make mistakes while under pressure. Altough it has to be said that Sainz seems to have improved this year over last year and has shown that he is going the "Prost-Route" of driving with his head more than risking things. It payed off for Prost and seems to do Sainz some good aswell.
@@cbrunnem6102😂 max was lucky there was a sc without it he would be out of the points. Average brained maxi fanboy.
@@mineralwater6736 what😂 did you even watch the race? RB had zero SC benefit, that was there bad luck. I understand if you hate Max or RB, but don’t just say random silly things..
@@tommybambam when you see the lion 🦁 fallen the dogs dancing .... sorry for my bad English but max he is the best driver ever ... with sh*** care p5 .. imagine LH have the same thing??? Probably he finish p15
This is fascinating. The detailed technical breakdown of RB's Belgium lift off tactics and why Singapore does not suit the otherwise unstoppable car is really interesting.
More videos like this for all teams/cars would be awesome.
Do we fans have access to the teams' predictions of where they will place in the race?
@@qwj68bootswell its true.
I don't think any less of Max. He did his best. And super stoked to see Sainz win!!!
I wonder if Verstappen could have been on the podium without the safety car that basically gave everyone a free pitstop except for Verstappen and Perez. And also he stopped literally one lap before the VSC.. This really wasn't redbull's weekend
@@mordor1779I think Verstappen could’ve WON, but the safety car, pitting just before the VSC, and Liam Lawson did the job of ending his streak.
@@mordor1779 could say abu dhabi 2021 had a repeat in Singapore.
@@mordor1779considering he still made it to p6 after quali and getting cucked by the first sc. Podium highly likely, win? Possible. Even though they messed up the car somehow, just shows what kinda beast he is.
Edit: Typo
@@UnholyCamouflageTHIS
RB19 needs a high speed section to properly heat the tyres. Even Monaco has a couple corners that are long and require good aero dynamic load. Singapore is very slow corners everywhere. In Suzuka with that first sector, RB19 will be a rocketship again. They said the car felt bad on the sim in Singapore, but then then that same car felt great again on Suzuka sim.
Ferrari's problem is not finding pace. It's the pitwall.
That’s why Sainz is explaining to his engineer the drs strategy for lando….
Facts 🌠
Said this for a long time 👏🏻
Regardless it was a smooth operation
Ferraris Problem is also leclerc
best race of the season IMO such a tight finish, not just max 30 seconds ahead like the whole season has been.
All year the racing has been like this between P2-P5/P3-P6, and with multiple teams in the mix. The only difference was who was in the top step(s), nothing new there, at least for me it was as enjoyable as any other race this season
@@LCardoso17 what did you expect? A Williams podium? Don't try to reply me as I am quite sure you didn't watch the race.
@@officialthetubeofyoubro did you even read their reply...?
I'm thorn between this one and Zandvoort to best race, Zandvoort had so much happening all the time
@@officialthetubeofyou he's speaking facts though.. the race was truly interesting for a few laps (other than the build-up), exactly like the races when Max dominates by 20+ lol.
A good insight into Red Bulls troubles this weekend - just shows how complicated these cars are and sometimes the compromises needed to be made to get the right setup / a fast car!
Hard to make a car which is good for every circuit, but Red Bull have done a great job so far !
Max still had an insane recovery drive… Suzuka will be scary
Good job passing slow cars
@@johnnychimpo7539 0:17 their car's practically just as slow (if not slower) than the slow cars 💀
@@satriabagaskara4198 wrong. It was much faster
@@johnnychimpo7539 It is Singapore, what would you expect? even faster Merc on mediums cannot overtake Mclaren and Ferrari on hards.
@@johnnychimpo7539 only on the mediums. On the hard tires, the pace wasn't nearly as good, though with the heavy fuel load, probably better than expected, and if not for the unnecessary safety car, the Bulls might've ended up further up the field, as they wouldn't have had the tire temperature issues it introduced.
I'm sure at suzuka everything will be back to normal, but I hope to see more competition
I think McLaren is gonna be really good there as well
What? You called RB overpowered is normal?
@@nokia.s3350 15 consecutive wins, but the gap might close next year or 2?
Thank you! Finally a good insight into the reasons this GP turned out the way it did. No youtuber gibberish just straight facts, love it.
Great video!
It’s shocking that sky pundits haze zero idea about this
Excep the fact that chest mode was removed and now they can't run as low.
@@jeffsteyn7174 "Stop it, get some help" - Michael Jordan
@@damedusa5107 the more engrossed i become with this sport and its coverage, it becomes quite transparent that sky is certainly anglophile and outright biased which has moved me to listening/viewing more to F1TV's pundits more so. $ky have a stronghold on coverage locked up and that's not necessarily a good thing.
laughed so hard when Russell hit the wall at the end 😂😂😂
Same
Yeah that was pretty hilarious (once it was clear he was okay). Lando literally baited him into the wall lmao
i was concerned at first but it was so funny hahaha the replay was gold@@mrgalaxy396
@@mrgalaxy396 Lol don't be so overdramatic abt Lando baited him😂 George actually clipped the right side of the wall which damage his right front suspension & crashed onto the wall it was a rookie mistake solely on him (or u could say Lewis relentlessly putting him under immense pressure until George crumbled)
@@zariqeezham9210Russell is the only Mercedes driver to win a formula 1 race since Abu Dhabi 2021 😢
Zhou going 42 laps on mediums was impressive didnt know he could pull something like that off
Endless possibilities at the back of the grid!
Zhou is criminally underrated and I'll hear no different
@@DMC_Motorsports agreed, he's properly underrated but im glad he's staying for at least another season. He deserves it
@@DMC_Motorsportshe’s just okay. That’s it.
This is what you call a blip. And my god was it a good blip. I'm an RB fan, specifically Max, but my god this race was so good. The championship is over. They'll win in Suzuka. Max has the win record. I am not even sad. This was amazing.
Yeah, as much as I'm bummed for RB and Max, I'm not really disappointed. Great race, great to see everyone else get the spotlight, and to have expected absolute perfection from RB for the whole season was a wild wish that shouldn't have really been expected, but it's great to see that RB and Max at least got as far as they did for records.
@@TheAmazingCowpig their recovery drives were pretty much as good as they could get them too so i’m not really that dissapointed no.
amusingly enough, without Verstappen absolutely destroying everyone at the front this was one of the more competitive races all year over those final laps. It was fun to see a group of cars at the front battling, as opposed to Max just driving off into the sunset.
If there were 15 more laps that's what he was on his way to doing. Was gaining after the tire change.
@@aralsea1he was not quicker than the mercs after they pit tho so he definitely wouldn’t of won
@@Moomoomoomini He was hitting 1:36 laps and probably would have picked up the pace even more with that big gap after getting by Leclerc. It's over though so what ifs don't matter. I'll be at Suzuka on the weekend so it'll be great to see a live race.
It's a big what if, but Max was really 0.007 away from winning the race...had he went through Q3 and got even at least P7, he wouldn't have started on Hards, wouldn't have been completely fucked by Sargeant SC and would definitely have a lot of pace. An incredible series of bad performance and also bad luck was what it took to stop and derail them... I don't think this will repeat, other teams have to step up, not wait for them to drop the ball and the stars align....
certainly! the race was absolutely phenomenal having myself actually at the scene i was lucky enough experience the fierce battle among the racers! it was an amazing weekend
Absolutely phenomenal f1 content team! Awesome work! 🙌🏻
This is one of the most comprehensive videos I have seen! Thank you for your analysis and posting this.
Not even the best car can be perfect for every circuit. Congrats Carlos, that was a masterclass in defense and really showed his strategic ability. Carlos and Lando were the best team of the day.
Sometimes best cars need a bad weekend...
It was like we slipped into some alternative universe where Red Bull have a tractor for a week
Honestly, the best source anywhere answering the mystery of Red Bull’s defeat in Singapore. All my questions were answered.
Great analyses... well done 👊🏼
A bit dramatic, dont you think?
I just wish it continues like this so that we get some exciting races in the ones remaining for the season.
Love how Perez literally smashed his way through the grid to get into the points. How he can make contact with Tsunoda and Albon and not have any investigations is beyond me
Tsunada
You answered your own question with Tsunoda as he is on the Red Bull owned team.
He got a 5 second penalty for his contact with Albon...
@@tonTeufelbut it didn't hit much cuz he was 11s clear of lawson
Perez: The new "crash whisperer"....
Wow, one of The Race’s best vids yet, and I’m a RB fan.
Appreciate the quality of this analysis. More of this please. Technology is why fans love the sport.
To be fair to Max and RBR, they usually struggle at Singapore. Plus, despite having a shocker of a quali, Max was one of the only drivers to make multiple overtaking maneuvers, and he climbed up the order to finish fifth. All in all, a good result given how the weekend had gone.
Balderdash!! When Vettel was winning for RB in Singapore and most of other races, everyone and FIA cried foul and demanded immediate reform of the F1 specifications. Now, FIA reckons Max is their Golden Boy, they bend over backwards to help and let him win, disregard his transgressions, punish anyone and everyone who dare race against Max!! What a load of crap F1 has become!!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
@@jeremywong3056did you cry this much about hamilton too?
Carlos is _dialed in_ right now. Great to see him earn a W!
Good video, thanks for explaining
Great video. Thoroughly explained what went wrong for RB
I don't know if people still remember, but last year in Jeddah, Lewis had a shocking Q1 elimination whereas George made it all the way to Q3. I think it is similar to what happened this time in the sense that the team found a good improvement in FP3 and decided to go greedy and push it all the way to the extreme. But because it's FP3, they didn't have chance to test it out, and ended up backfiring massively in qualifying.
Im sorry but the delta is unprecedented, normally max finishes 30 seconds ahead, this race he was 30 seconds BEHIND
@@1greenMitsi You really think so? 20 seconds behind if we take into account the SC time gain everyone else got. And last year in Jeddah, Lewis was 40 seconds behind George. So on a street track with 60 laps, Max with a bad setting is 50 seconds slower than you anticipated. It is widely acknowledged that a bad setting can be 1 seconds slower per lap, that matches perfectly with the 50 seconds gap. Do you still want to stand by your naive thought?
Max verstappen was knocked out in Q2 so how did he advance to Q3 ? Can anyone explain
We need more of this. It was the most exciting weekend this year, with a fight between 4 cars until the end. An amazing GP.
eh wasnt really a fight now was it, did anyone really think sainz was gonna get overtaken? Maybe for five minutes when russell was puting up 2,5 seconds a lap, but in the last 5 laps it became very clear he was never passing sainz and maybe not even norris. Best race is still definitely zandvoort en fights like this have been quite common for 2nd place thanks to perez's performance
What fight??? It was no more than a DRS train. Tense yes, fighting not so much.
Tbh first 40 laps were like snoozefest no one took any risks
What a wealth of information here. Thank you!
F1 is so much more than simply watching cars doing laps.
Subscribed 👍
Great video! Who's the new guy? Keep it up! 😍😍😍
After team radio with Max after race, he said they'll be back. They're just honest with the race's results and they'll even come back strong. And i know he will dominate in Japan.
Still though while this video makes tons of excuses for RB, most of all of which are valid, if they so accurrately predicted 7th, then um, excuse me for asking but why couldn't they do something about it? This seems like excuse making in my opinion. Like these are world champion teams running simulations weeks and months ahead of time and you're telling me they couldn't do a single damn thing about making it better? C'mon now.
@@mpow3r972 you can't compromise other races and the development for next season just to have a chance to win 1 more race. it's not worth it. that is why they did not try any harder to find a solution for this week-end. Plus, Newey said the heat+humidity fucked with their gearboxes (mostly their upshifts), which caused the rear to slide like crazy all week-end when exiting corners.
@@adriancojocaru5846 I completely agree, and like I said the technical analysis is spot on. But bottom line it's a learning experience for Red Bull, it just seemed to me to be a bit of much to say "oh we knew it wasn't going to go well awhile ago, and well it went as badly as we thought." Next years car is already almost finished and a late race like Singapore and changes made for it won't derail next years car. It's a constant development arc, where you prepare for ALL races, definitely not race by race. But I think we agree on that, just in different ways.The failures here this year will hopefully present learning and positive steps for here next year, but to act like "we knew it would be shit a while ago, and it was exactly as predicted, but we did what we could" just doesn't sit right with me knowing and being a fan of Red Bull. But anyway, cheers mate, I wasn't throwing hate just saying something felt off with the talking heads and RB explanations aka what I labeled as "excuses".
@@mpow3r972 I completely agree. But RB19 can have its ups and downs. Especially in Singapore, we all know they struggle here massively. And this ain't the first time at all
Yes!! I know Max will AMD Checo also ..They be back next week..Dont underestemate redbull and Max as specialy!!!@
Not sure if this was mentioned in the comments but it is wise to not forget that an Alpha Tauri of none other than Liam Lawson out qualified Both red bull drivers. He also had a tremendous race scoring his maiden points. Hurrah!
A driver called in at the halfway point of the season to drive for the Red Bull Sister team and ends up beating the main team within his first few starts.
Where have I seen this before...
excellent video, explained it very to the point
Amazing video
That SC came at exactly the wrong time for Red Bull. Max probably wouldn't have won anyway, but podium finish would have been much more likely. Too bad the second SC was only a virtual one. A full one would have made things even wilder
Great race today
This was very insightful, thank you very much for explaining in a way I can understand XD
Great summary to explain the complex variables of F1
Versttapen seemingly found some work around mid race as his pace was genuinely quick and even comparatively to the mercedes on fresh tires at the end of the race. And i kinda wish that red bull went for a way more aggressive strategy of double stopping for softs or mediums to end the race not because red bull has to with the lead but because it shows a competitive desire even when struggling and would be interesting to see how well the drivers could use the tire advantage to make up for the lack of driveability. And obviously knowing that the vsc came aswell the timing would be great for the 2nd stop theoretically and so it leads to many questions in my opinon on if red bull with tire advantage could have any chance of a podium compared to the deflated result they did get
Did you watch the race? They pitted and went 15th and 18th. They only ended so high up as others went out.
What you saw was their usual superior tire deg kicking in, and the tires operating in a better temperature window as their stints unfolded......OR, They did not actually improve, but rather the Others' tires were dropping off faster as per usual.
@@mabozar15 What? Verstappen literally passed everyone on track from 15th to 5th in the last 20 laps with the fresher tires. only Russell's was not as he was in the wall.
He was 2 tenths off 4th at the end. Without Russell doing Russell things, he passes Leclerq with ease too. Everything went wrong for RB this weekend and Max finished 5th. I'm not writing them off just yet.
@steve4880 the original point I was responding to was that he could have been on the podium. No he couldn't! Maybe if he had listened to JPL and not ruined his hards, he might have had tires that would have lasted until the VSC and then he might have been nearer a podium. Of course he was going to be faster on a medium tire versus used hards, just as the Mercs were. Those tires were going to go off before he would have hypothetically approaching Hamilton. Again, just as the Merc tires were. Had others not gone out Max would have been starting from lower than 15th.
It would also be worthy of mentioning that Max started in 11, had a far from optimal set up, pited outside of safety car and still managed to finish 5th.
yeah..this is just a small hiccup..before the weekend started, i already know RB can't win here if they can't nailed the FPs before qualifying..and so unlucky win that SC and VSC..
Holly sh, new to this channel. Amazing content. Cheers
I think this really shows how on the limit the Red Bull is with it's aerodynamics and suspension platform.
I think it was due to tire warmth, with the amount of anti dive they run in the suspension setups they struggle to heat the tired and Singapore doesn't have many fast corners to heat tires well
This! It's also one of the reason their quali pace isnt as good as their race pace
Tire warm up has been an issue all season
It was because The set up people went too soft on springs. It was actually a very "Rookie move" that cost the entire Team the whole race weekend.
They messed up in qualifying and were just unlucky tbf but looking at where Max finished they’ll be fine.
Very good explanation. Thnks
Well done! Great effort!
The Red Bull car just did not work for the race, but no chance of going to win every race in the season that would’ve been very silly if that happened 🎉
I know very little of aerodynamics but it makes me wonder if it being a street track and surrounded by barriers makes the backwash and airflow different than a normal track.
I'd imagine the dirty air acts different since it's surrounded by barriers and catch fences.
@beeman4266 In this case, it was the People responsible for suspension set up changes that cost the whole Red Bull team the entire race weekend.
Highly unlikely that absolutely nothing happens in a 23+ Race season. This was bound to happen sooner or later. I thought it would be a mechanical failure mid-race, but The track just completely throwing your Cars entire balance on its head sounds plausible, if you consider how Hyper-engineered these Cars are and just a single missing piece somewhere can cost you heaps of time over a lap.
On the exciting side, this means that Max and Checo still have used engines that can blow up at anytime. Giving us the chance for another scrap for 1st like this. Max beat the 9wins in a row record, he isnt going to lose the championship and the teams cleansweep is impossible now. Im a RB fan but as there is quite literally nothing to really go for anymore this season, might aswell hope the races we have left are entertaining.
Besides, seeing Mercs still bottle it while getting all the advantages you could ask for, is satisfying as hell for me.
@@xinectin16 I dunno, Russell put in such a good race, Seeing him eat it at the end to hand Hamilton a podium after his conduct earlier in the race left a bad taste in my mouth. Deserved that spot far more.
Glad for Singapore results. Verstappen has had a problem fitting his head in his helmet and every win was making the problem worse
For me, Max was driver of the day. That recovery in that poorly set up car and bad strategy - from P15 to P5 was something. One more lap and that would've been P4.
Agreed 10,000%
Fair enough, I can respect that but I gotta give it to Sainz because the strategy he used making sure Lando had DRS so he can defend against the Mercs. If he didn't do that he might not have won. That was a brilliant strategy.
Very good explanation!
Great text Ben!
When Max said it's gonna be a difficult race, I was expecting mercedes' style of downplaying. Did not expect it was gonna be a disaster. I guess even Redbull and Max didn't even think it was gonna be that bad.
One thing I like about max is he is always real an honest
Max is always honest
@macksonleso4528 I don't think he is always honest, but ok.
@@kteliteexample?
@@ktelite Just pay close attention and you will see it for yourself.
I apologize on Singapore behalf for the bumpy ride 😂 it was amazing to cycle on tho.
Much better writing and presentation in this video on the usual guy
Far more concise and direct
love these videos! TY
I'm actually quite sad the streak ended, it would've been crazy to have one driver perfectly dominate an entire year of F1
Are you serious?
It’s witnessing a record that would almost never be broken
If you think about it, Max lost 24 seconds because of the first safety car, and pitted 1 lap before the virtual safety car, which could have gained him about 12 more seconds.
The fact he finished only 20 seconds behind the leader, despite having to overtake half the grid since his pitstop, tells me he could’ve won that race without the bad luck
But that would require an insane amount of luck too, he would have to get two SC into perfect windows to gain position while others pitted and then another one for him to get a free stop. If the race ended without a SC he would be many seconds behind Sainz.
@@gabrielmuniz64 the first part does not require any luck. No safety car saves him at least 20 seconds. He would have easily been on the back of the Mercedes. Plus, without the VSC, Russell and Hamilton would most likely still be on old hards.
Even with all this disadvantages those last 15 laps on medium by Max was Menace I was genuinely surprised how can he gain that much in one lap.
Love the voice,, much better this way, I can stay watching comfortably till the end
not sure the title makes much sense
maybe it makes sense but we don't know yet
@@aimanfitri0ivit doesn't. RB cars are not "undrivable" if anything, it's Haas and Alfa Romeo that have undrivable cars.
@@hueyfreeman7810 oh ☺️ well depending on the circuit maybe 🤔
@@aimanfitri0iv 👍 they might the same experience in Mexico though.
@@hueyfreeman7810 well you're right ☺️
Are they testing out 2024 specs and setups perhaps?
Idk if I’m the only person that noticed, however I observed in last nights race, that most teams have now updated their floors. To at-least somewhat replicate the complex geometry underneath the rb19.
From certain camera angles in last nights race, especially the camera angles that showed the front of the cars coming down the straight, I noticed some complex geometry protruding from underneath most cars.
I personally believe that most teams have figured out the rb19 dirty little secret with the complex floor geometry.
I mean we all saw it in Monaco
Great observation! Thanks for sharing. Facts, ahhhh...
Thanks for the tech back end input. I had no idea it was that technologically advanced - props to the teams for their work. And I agree: the other teams have gotten better. But - it looks like Max, etc., were having fun in the day or two after the race. It doesn't just depend on them!
We'll have to wait another year for a perfect season, then. Oh well.
Should have cut a deal with Red Bull to give them the perfect season this year, then allow other teams a few wins next year🥲
Lewis would have had a Perfect Season if he had that car..
@@BlueBARv5yeah right… he had such car multiple years at mercedes.
@@BlueBARv5Ignoring the 2020 car which was virtually unbeatable compared to the rest, at least the rbr this year looked possible to beat in certain races until now.
@@BlueBARv5 Guess the W11 that's more than 1 sec faster than everyone don't exist..
Even Alphatauri were faster than red bull
nice details
Thank you for this clear explenation..... as an amateur viewer is nice to learn this way...........
RBR has had 1 bad race. What is scary is that they stated this a while back that Singapore would be an issue. Let's hope that they quickly wrap up the season and start to focus on next year. Racing like this weekend was amazing! And this is coming from a massive RBR fan. The records are now broken, time for some challenges!
true! even as a redbull fan i prefer races like this week where we get to see them fight for positions. as cool as it would've been for them to just cruise to the finish line, i want to see the bulls fight adversity!
Haven't they already started focusing on next year's car?
@@qwj68boots yeah they did, I meant season haha
9:21 - How was Red Bull's race pace slower than Haas when Max got rid of them pretty quickly at the start?
That was single lap pace
@@betelgeuse227 Have any idea how they get to those numbers? We all saw Red Bull struggling, but 8th slowest team?
@@soundscape26 It was based on best quali lap times per team
Remeber that redbull Was one of the obly 3 teams that could not get a car into q3
Well if you'd watched it you'd see he couldn't control the car and kept having to be told to slow down and its that arrogance which inevitably led to his earlier pit stop meaning he missed the opportunity to pit at the VSC. And of course Perez also drives for RB.
Max was not allowed to attack from the pit wall because they wanted to drive a very long stint on the hard tire and if you sit too close to the car in front of you, the tires wear out.
coming from a guy rooting for RBR, its really fun to watch this week's race. as cool as it would've been for RedBull to finish the season perfectly, i would much prefer to see the bulls fight and earn positions because they believe that they deserve it. its always a good time as a fan to see your team fight adversity. heads down and onwards to suzuka! cant wait to see the japanese crowds again on my screens.
Thanks 👍
Race of the season, finally!!!
Did you miss the first 20 laps where nothing happened?
@@mabozar15what race this season there was action every lap?
Not in a long shot. Only if you like DRS trains. Only 40 overtakes (of which the half by Max)! Zandvoort had 175 overtakes, the BY FAR most exciting race this year.
According to this recap: Max had the 8th fastest car on the grid; got completely screwed on the timing of the first SC; got hit with a VSC less than 5 laps after pitting under green flag conditions; and had Sainz and Ferrari perfectly executing a race strategy that was explicitly designed to nerf Max and Red Bull even more than Max had already been nerfed by their own setup. And despite ALL of those things happening in the course of one Grand Prix, his gap from 1st place was about 5 seconds less than the average time loss of a green flag Singapore GP pit stop - the green flag pit stop he was forced to make because his hard tyres died about 5-6 laps after the first safety car. If the SC comes out around lap 30 he might well have won the thing. Not that anybody doubts that Max is a once-in-a-generation driver but just in case anyone does, this race just gave you a surprising amount of supporting evidence for that argument.
Well lets see Las Vegas. Street Circuit night race. But Cold.
for future tires we should hope for high preformance but high fall off rate, these cars are only interesting in those spots
Minus out the Red Bull and we had a great 3 way race everyone has been asking for for two years. Soooo yeah….
2 years? 🤡🤡
but wasnt it Max's skill the reason they won not the car ....has Max's skill failed badly?
He overtook 19 cars and was thrown back to P15 after a bad strategy! What are you on about, you DTS fangirl!???
@@AlertConsument-py6te lol , in the best car on the grid ...should have done a lot more ... but as you Max fanboys boys keep saying, he is winning by skill .as i said .. perhaps it's not his skill but the car ...as the only thing changed this time was the car didn't work well... so max isn't very skilled going by what you fanboys spouted all the time .......
@@alangunningham5667 you only stating the fact you definitely have no clue about F1 whatsoever. See you next week.
@@AlertConsument-py6te another fanboy !!! cant stand facts !!
Christian Horner says categorically the additional wing flexibility regulation checks weren't a factor in RB's poor performance. The same man who said categorically RB also hadn't overspent.
On a track like Singapore at has NO impact on the performance of the RB19. But what would a hating DTS fangirl know. LOL
Yeah we'll be back to our normally scheduled RB domination next week, no issues
I was tired of Max winning everytime but thinking about it I would've loved if they did the clean sweep & won everything for the history books
I think it was ruining viewing figures and losing support of sponsors..
@@philtucker1224 thing about F1 is when it leaves it to the fates, we all Win. Let's sit back and watch how they screw up the next few seasons leading to 2026...
@@qwj68boots I fully agree Q, I don’t remember it ever being this chaotic (on track) when Bernie was in charge..
@@IlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIIlIlIlIllIlIl yes I can even go back further when Schumi and Ross were winning everything, I remember my late Uncle saying to me “unless someone else starts winning I think I’ll give it a miss next year” ..
1st 😊 Merc was impressive today
yeah but although george crashed at the final lap very heartbroken moment though but it's alright
Hamilton pushing George while he was trying to catch Norris absolutely sabotaged any chance they had of winning the race.
@@Degenevesting yep you're right ☺️
Indeed as miracle arrived
@@Degenevesting They are racers... no way would Lewis stand back and watch George have a go.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind if this continued. I really liked seeing McLaren, Ferrari and Mercedes fight for a tight win while Red Bull was nowhere to be found.
The production value of this channel is pure madness.
That's the easiest sub of all 2023 for me.
The sadistic joy of seeing the team this channel doesn't support is so evident in the opening line of the video... 😂😂
This channel is Merc biased.
I was about to comment this also haha
@@adibz959 because its factual its merc biased? Drive 2 survive max fan spotted
@@hammond9866there is no discussing with the orange army, they are all mentally deranged
@@hammond9866 No like actually The Race has something against Max. They used to do a driver rating after every weekend--maybe they still do but idk and idc--and even when Max would pick up Grand Schalems or whatever they're called, they would still rate his weekend 9/10 for some ungodly reason.
And before you decide to come at me with weird accusations about which driver I'm a fan of, my guy is Leclerc. I don't care about the Max/Lewis fanbase beef.
If Max would have started from 11th, on the same strategy as Ferrari, on mediums instead of hards, and would have pitted during the first safetycar, and later during the virtual safetycar, he would have won the race from 11th place. Max drove an excellent race, and had a blistering superfast second stint, almost reeling Leclerc in by 15 seconds in just 5 laps. He did nothing wrong, just had double bad luck with safetycar and VSC, one lap after his pitstop. The RB 19 is always much better in the race than qualifying. He will cruise easy and relaxed to his third championship, especially now the stress and tension to get 11 wins on a row is over. he is still by far the best driver on the grid, and his 3rd championship is 100% on merit and fully deserved.
Not exactly. The RB's starting on hards is the exact reason they COULD have contested for the win. The SC came at the almost perfect time for the Medium runners meaning they all got a half off pitstop at no cost. Max needed the tire difference at the end to overtake as he did (Medium vs medium, hard vs hard, this wouldve been impossible on a track like this)
Based and Maxpilled.
That’s considering RB was on pace with Ferrari, it wasn’t. He could’ve gotten a podium with better luck though
I want more videos by Ben! Great, knowledgeable and nice explanations. His voice does not tend to go into scandal-yellow press attention seeking spheres like some other Race members do.
Amen! Too right. One shameful thing is now that 2021 is over, seems like everyone believes in their own 'press' being the end all be all. Don't Believe the Hype!
At this point any bad race wont hurt Red Bull anyway. Good for them now they know RB19 is bad on bumpy and slow speed corner and can go home with best result possible and valuable data to work with
Does the fact no teams thought that the flexi rule change would hurt red bull and it did prove that the other teams and in people around the paddock have no idea what about the red bull makes it soo dominant... they will blame the set up issues but its too coincidental that they well back soo far when the new Td came in. The never used the additional supports for the floor when the rest needed them so they obviously want some amount of flex... I can't wait for a few years down the line when it all comes out what exactly they did to build the most dominant f1 car in history( unless the don't win another race all season). Its probably some crazy simple which is why nobody can get their heads around it... they are thinking to much about it when it's just a crazy efficient and slippery car which has some amount of flex somewhere(possibly underneath) that's bleeds off even more drag on the straights and give more downforce in the corners...
It literally wasn't the new TD tho. Red Bull ran the old floor and wing for quali and the race thinking that it would fix the problems from practice and the car didn't improve. They ran old parts, and they were still shocking.
@@sheldoniusRexso surprising tbf. It is possible they used an old spec part made with a stiffer composite ...fairly sure they don't need to declare like that like areo surfaces.b
@@rhyswilliams4893 you are literally commenting under a video which explains in excruciating detail exactly how Red Bull was so bad, and if you would actually watch it you will find that the tech directive had nothing at all to do with Red Bull's problems. Nothing. It was suspension setup, a gear box issue, and ride height that were the actual issues here.
How about focus on who are doing well in a race, mot just how RB was beaten.
Salty salt salt i want to hear about how my dominant team failed
stop hating
This video is about red bulls race not about the entire race. I'm sure they will do another video about other teams
They do many videos.
Red Bull being beaten was a major talking point of this race... the podcast will take care of all other aspects of the race.
Apart from Monaco, Singapore is the slowest speed race of the year. Low speed grip mostly come from the tyres, which most front running teams are quite competitive. The strongest suit of Red Bull is its aerodynamic grip, which is useful in medium and high speed corners. There is no surprise this weekend will be challenging for Red Bull.
If Red Bull wins the remaining races it will still be the most dominant race car in history of most win %.
Not to mention Ferrari has really good mechanical grip
@@e2rqey and a bit too effective aero grip. Making tyre degradation worse if the condition went against them
Was this a silent nerf, didn't see any patch update about this nerf