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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มี.ค. 2024
- In this video I test the Technics SL-1210MK2 and the Technics SL-1200MK7 to see if they can both hold the same tune from start to finish without drifting from each other at zero pitch using the song Finally by Ce Ce Peniston. How accurate is their pitch at zero?
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They are in very good time, just shows the quality in the Technics product. good choice in music as well.
My 1210 mk II’s are 35 years old & are still going strong.
Arguably the best £450 I’ve spent.
Agreed.
I paid same for my 1200s
Good to see the new deck getting a workout😀
thanks kosta
Great track choice!
Nice setup bro i like the sound 👍
Thanks heaps brother!
Main advantage of mk7 is that it’s brand new. There are lots of Frankenstein MK2s around now sporting aftermarket non-Technics parts. So they are no longer like for like.
I love my MK7's, solid units, no issues and keep their time/pitch etc locked in better any other turntable I've used. For the doubters and MK7 haters there's plenty of Vinyl Mixes on my channel using the MK7's which barely miss a beat (shameless plug 😂)... but for anyone contemplating a brand new pair of MK7's I say go for it. Great units 👍
Nice video dude. I have mk7 and is good for mixing no problem form me. One question how to adjust ortofon concorde to be exactly perpendicular? Seems you have a optimum adjustment. Little screws in arm near cartige? Thanks and nice mixes!
The ortofon fits straight in. I only tighten the one big screw where the ortofon sits in. Then I adjust the height at the back of the tonearm with the dial. With the slipmats I have, I set it to zero. I measured at the back of the tonearm and the front near the cartridge so that's it equal. I adjust the dial to suit.
Love the little experiment you did there with those 2 records man, great comparison. The record on the 1200mk7 is proper bent up, so if there was a massive difference i'd put it down to that ha. Have My 1210s mk2s about 28 years, absolute beasts they are. If you enjoy the Underground Dance Music Scene, Jump In Check Out The Channel.
I have two videos after this one with experiments too. Even though the record was bent they kept in beat. I never touched the platter or the pitch control. I will definately check out your channel. Cheers!
@@Toskas oh shit sorry man I was sure I replied to you,but I may not have. I'll check out all your uploads man and a drop a comment on them as I go through each video.
Right record is warped, can cause variation in speed
Warped records are actually superior. They have a warmer sound. It's simply something that CDs or MP3 will never be able to achieve :)
You can even hear it by the small phasing effect going up and down
the most warped I ever seen 🤣
4:32 you know what the numbers next to the red light do and where the screw is inside the deck under the platter that you turn to adjust and calibrate them back perfect? (so when pitch is on +6 the red dot thats on the +6 level will be dead still ) .... and the one that adjusts the brake to skid or stop more sudden ;) nice setup
Thanks heaps. Yes. I know about that. If the pitch at 0% line up with the dots being still means you don't need to calibrate with a potentiometer. Can be done from under the cover that's under the platter for the rest of the pitch range, from the top right, usually a blue screw. The thing is, there is now talk that the 6% is wrong and the print should have read 6.4% like the mk5 and after. Mine lines up with the dots not moving at 6.4%. I'm still trying to see how true this information is. My deck has been been rarely used and I was wondering how the pitch fader was that far out at 6%. Then I was told from one technician that the print on the deck is wrong and it should in fact read 6.4%. Interesting as there are quite a few vids on TH-cam where people have calibrated the 6%at 6% because their calibration was out supposedly, as their pitch was showing at around 6.4%. Seems quite a few have been at 6.4% before they calibrate. So I'm now wondering.
Sven Vath ,plays only vinyl records ...say MK7 feels like old 1200 but better for mixing.
Dude, that mk2 looks new. Where did you fish that from?
It is a beauty with very very low kilometres 🤣. Looks like it hasn't even been run in yet. 🤣 I got it off market place on Facebook. I did go see it in person. I am waiting for another immaculate low kilometre one to come up so I can have a set of two but it may take some time it seems for one to come up. I'll still keep the 7's though. Will be nice to have both sets and swap them around.
Stick that warped one in airing cupboard in between 2 lots of yellow pages will take the warp out. I've got 2 1200s. They were built in 1997. I bought them second hand in 2004... 2 decks in flight cases, a vestax mixer, and 100 records £450 they're in mint condition ive replaced all the cables had them serviced regularly. Love um. Lost 2 pairs of 1210s up my nose before i got them. 😂 them days have gone thank fxxk
Were did you get the needle for the mk7 ??
Manny's, (Store DJ), in Alexandria, Sydney. Same place I bought the MK7'S from.
Hey like to ask a question I am an old school wheel of Steel spinner and I'm looking for a place where I can get my hands on as much old vinyl as I can if there's any way you could let me know would be greatly appreciated old school DJ new school DJ Bobby Digital.
Online at Discogs is where I get mine. Just google it and it will come up.
I sell my colection to you!!! Depends what genres are you interested.
@@Toskas Same, just make sure you shop around on Discogs for the best deal (some prices are unrealistic).
DJ-ing in the bedroom... Nice 🤣
Spare bedroom slowly being converted to studio. 😂
MK7 has adjustable torque settings in the motor and i think it speeds up a little bit faster than MK2 with maximum setting
You are correct!
Go Mr gt in the mix
This doesn't make sense, try beatmaching with two different vinyls first with mk7 and then mk2. Why did you get the 1210mk2? In your first videos you stated that the mk7s were the best
This was my first experiment. It is to show that at zero pitch the 19 year old MK2's pitch is working correctly similar to brand new mk7's. I will do more checks at different percentages and also mixes. I used to own Mk2's back in the eighties and sold them in 1998 when I moved to Greece. I bought the mk7's a couple of years ago because I wanted brand new. But I always wanted MK2's again for nostalgia since I had them before but it would have to be an immaculate set. I also bought it to do test videos as everyone says this or that works better but show no proof. At the beginning I said that the mk7 is better than the MK2 to mix on. I also mentioned that the mk7 doesn't have the best isolation and with big bass or at a club environment their is feedback noise as they are 7 kg as opposed to 12 kg mk2's. Having the MK2 in front of me, I find the mk7's easier to mix on. At least now it's not from memory from 1998 but I have it in front of me and my memory ended up being correct. I find that with the 7's I get the beats in beat quicker. I feel the pitch is more precise on the 7's and the platter needs less effort to slow down by hand meaning easier to mix on. The mk7's will be my go to decks. The 2's for experiments, a big party with big bass and to have as collectibles. Need to find one more immaculate one though. I went black to match the rest of the gear even though my first MK2's were silver
I sold the MK7s after a month to buy the GRs but also having 2 pairs of Mk2s (2 1210s and 2 1200s) I realized that on the older ones I struggle less in beatmaching between one disc and another. I did various tests and the only thing that really improved was the motor cogging, everything else got worse.
@@PitbullRyu the mk7's built before August 2021 had pitch issues making beat matching difficult. The Red Bull edition and after models had the pitch issue rectified. The GR's also had the pitch issue but I don't know if it was rectified. Mine are October 22 models. The MK2 is March '05.
@@Toskas My mk7 and GR have no pitch problems, the problem is that being digital, it can never be as precise as the totally analog mk2s. mk7 and GR have 0.5% increments the Mk2 have infinite increment. The mk7s I had were from 2020 without dead center, the GRs from 2021 and the MK2s 1 pair is from 99 and the 2 silver 1200s are from 92 purchased by my father new in the technics shop
@@PitbullRyu I tried this same tune at zero on both decks as you saw in the video. Today I tried them at +1 +2+3+4+5+6+7+8 and they both stayed locked in from start to finish. I would have thought if the pitch on the 7 was not accurate the tune would drift on the 7 on at least one of the percentage settings. Jay from just Technics reckons it's 0.02 increments on the 7's. I can't get my head around it. I would think playing the same track is the best test as the difference would be easier to pick up if there was drifting. Maybe I'm not seeing all the angles properly.
do it off of pitch lock / try the pitch at ( 2.1/2 + ) the pitch
I've done it in the next video after this one.
Try to pitchride on MK7 and you'll notice a difference.
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mark 2, mark 7
You should’ve put them side-by-side. This jumping around made me nauseous.
NO drifting, all good and why not there technics. They are the true superior in direct drive turntables….
Absolutely 🙌