Technics SL-1210MK2 vs SL-1210MK7 - Which turntable is the best & what's the difference?

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  • When it comes to turntables, one name has always stood out above the rest, so when Technics announced the brand new SL-1210MK7 earlier this year, everyone wondered the same thing - How does it compare to the legendary, 'Club Standard' SL-1210MK2!?
    Ratzi's joined by turntable nerd & scratch extraordinaire Jimi Needles in The Ratcave to compare the two decks, putting the MK7 through it's paces with some hard cuts and scratching!
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  • @rsanchez7111
    @rsanchez7111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    I’ve got 38 years on a pair mark 2. Made back in 1982. Still going strong

    • @repletereplete8002
      @repletereplete8002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      me too with mine going on 30 years and I've had them out at countless outdoor parties, festivals and squat raves and all that's broken in all that time is 1 deck que light led needs replacing. Absolutely the best purchase I ever made.

    • @rsanchez7111
      @rsanchez7111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Replete Replete that’s about right. These things last forever

    • @djbhe
      @djbhe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I have 27 years on my pair of 1200MK2's.

    • @rsanchez7111
      @rsanchez7111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      djbhe nice!!!! Those Mk2’s are the working horse

    • @jimineedles
      @jimineedles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      always nice to hear an OG pair still going strong!

  • @ajohnstitch
    @ajohnstitch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I don't think back in the 70s Technics would realize they have created the most legendary iconic turntable.
    For the home to the clubs basic over engineered.
    This has been the footprint for all other decks cdj's midi controllers for years after.

    • @MrAndyBassline
      @MrAndyBassline 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is only 1 turntable :D

    • @cun7us
      @cun7us 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly. It was a "happy accident" which made them a lot of money. However, because it was a near perfect product, there was no need for people to buy anything new from them providing their originals still work. So business wise, it wasn't the best model but for the consumer it was great.

    • @user-gm1pq5se5i
      @user-gm1pq5se5i 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They did, since développement of this turntable costed >1 million US$ (seventies value of this currency)

  • @rodrigoms75
    @rodrigoms75 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    the team that led this tt project in the past were really in love of what they created. I’m 44 y and still dream to have a pair of this.

  • @TheAnunnaki-NYC
    @TheAnunnaki-NYC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    What was also proven here was the 30+ year old MK2 can easily keep up and match the performance of a fresh out the box MK7. The hinge holders on the MK2 are also removable with 2 small screws to achieve the flush look to the mixer!

    • @davidsmisc1351
      @davidsmisc1351 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep. When these MK7s came out I assumed they’d essentially end the used MK2 market. But, no, in many ways MK2s are still the ones to own.
      I used to snap up any beat up examples I saw going cheap and strip them down, re-grease and oil them, replace any worn parts and they’d be as good as factory fresh again. Don’t make much money going this-just love these decks so much it’s fun to give them a whole new life, especially with the rise of DVS giving them a whole new purpose

  • @costabravaguy
    @costabravaguy ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am buying a 1200 mk7 next week - this review has been very useful - Thanks guys

    • @djkit
      @djkit  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great stuff Matt, thank you, it's nice to have a positive comment on this video! 😂

    • @user-gz9dv5rt4j
      @user-gz9dv5rt4j 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      MK7 is great turntable ..coreless direect drive motor is bettter than MK2

  • @thedjshow
    @thedjshow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice work guys!

  • @mongojoe21
    @mongojoe21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    The mk7 can play at 78 and reverse play by setting the switches under the platter. You can also adjust the brake and torque the same way

    • @mongojoe21
      @mongojoe21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      michael dent For real? Damn, when I worked in sales I had to know every single thing about the product I was selling. Man, I could have told you every single feature on every home appliance in that store without batting an eyelash.

    • @mongojoe21
      @mongojoe21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      michael dent not to mention, the fact that reverse play, 78 RPM speed, torque/break control, and light color change are all adjustable with the dip switches right under the platter was one of their biggest advertising points at CES 2019. How could someone sell these and not know that haha?

    • @TheFalko66
      @TheFalko66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mongojoe21 … so at this point I can stop watchin this guys ;)

    • @jimineedles
      @jimineedles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@michael dent we did, but we omitted that info as 78rpm is not a standard format in today's club environment, nor is 78rpm a go-to pressed format for vinyl and dubplates (for clubland at least) in the 21st century ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @panamaJ
      @panamaJ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I’ve been a DJ for 30 yrs and never had to play a 78 or a record in reverse! 🤔

  • @RefactoringRyan
    @RefactoringRyan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Underrated video, thanks for putting this together guys.

  • @chadpeery2930
    @chadpeery2930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I own both and they are both great....i have retired my mk2's for now due to parts getting harder to find ....but w the technics you will always be getting a quality product its all i have used for 27 years

    • @djbhe
      @djbhe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I bought my pair of 1200MK2's 27 years ago 1993 and they still look and play like new and I have never had a problem or had them serviced. I paid $750 for the pair.

    • @McRizzle23
      @McRizzle23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even electronic Componsbts on the board can be replaced with generic parts are long as the specs match. Apart from the motor control IC chip that is but it's rare for them to let go

    • @projekt679
      @projekt679 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your RCA cables will go before the rest of the M2. They’re tanks

  • @ParityError0110
    @ParityError0110 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice technical review. Thanks.

  • @compoundaudio
    @compoundaudio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just recently had my 1210s serviced. Still going strong

    • @djkit
      @djkit  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good man!

  • @maxivinyl2010
    @maxivinyl2010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love vinyl and your t-shirt 😎. My technics SL 1200 are 30 years old and still like new .

    • @IceColdRydah
      @IceColdRydah 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What is a difference between 1210 and 1200?

    • @maxivinyl2010
      @maxivinyl2010 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@IceColdRydah Hello . 1200 => Grey 1210 => black 😉

  • @colinmcdonagh4705
    @colinmcdonagh4705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    just took apart may old mk2 and cleaned them......have to say the build quality is unreal...military grade....surface mount components easy to service...last a life time

    • @colinmcdonagh4705
      @colinmcdonagh4705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@justinbennitt835 correction through hole 👍

  • @teamloony
    @teamloony 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My 50th coming up in a few months, a pair of these MK7’s are on my wish list.

    • @djkit
      @djkit  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope you get them!

    • @user-gz9dv5rt4j
      @user-gz9dv5rt4j 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      MK7 all the way ...

  • @matteomelfa
    @matteomelfa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do you have any issues with feedback/resonance on the mk7?
    None seems to deal with this aspect which is the very important I’d say.
    It would be great to have some side by side test with gain levels and so on.
    I’d love to get Mk7 but still not sure as reviews are a bit discordants yet.

  • @QoraxAudio
    @QoraxAudio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For 78rpm, try turning on the switches under the platter.
    Those can also enable reverse playback FWIW.

  • @hkp30sk31
    @hkp30sk31 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mix and scratch on a pair of MK3. I am currently trying to decide between buying a GR for listening or going big and getting a G

  • @deepvibez
    @deepvibez 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    yea wicky wicky, scratch n cut, but how well does the pitch fader hold a long mix riding a beatmach?

  • @deepvibez
    @deepvibez 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great video review, thanks

    • @djkit
      @djkit  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @themanwhocan1000
    @themanwhocan1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The build quality of hifi and turntables was more superior in the 70/80s

    • @naleenperera1969
      @naleenperera1969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      In The 1970 ~ 1980, The Golden Era Of The Audio Industry On The Planet Earth..........That's Why Critical Audio Music Listeners Using Vintage Audio Gears.

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i mean the red light and reliable pitch correction is what in the end made it to be the iconic dj turntable it is. it even firstly made it possible to really synch two kind of tracks because of these functions

  • @WyeExplorer
    @WyeExplorer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was the ultimate review to. Maan, me and my twin brother smashed up our 1210's way back like we were doing a who job. Things in life were a mess. But for the years we had them we had some great times. If you wanna find em there in a skip somewhere in the UK. Loved watching this. Nice guys to. Mark

    • @djkit
      @djkit  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much Mark! Great comments, big up!

    • @WyeExplorer
      @WyeExplorer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@djkit A pleasure. I'm writing about those years now. Did some great parties called Transition on the border of Wales and England 1990-93. Great memories.

  • @djrichiet
    @djrichiet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    As a Technics (independent) service engineer ( www.technics-service.co.uk ) my advice would be to stick with the original Mk2's if you have them. The only time you would want to consider the Mk7 is if you want the cheapest 'brand new' turntable. The analogue VCO pitch on the Mk2 is far more precise (when calibrated) than the digitally controlled pitch of the Mk7. I have had quite a few people sending me queries with the issues they have had with the mk7, notably pitch lock drift (even when following the reset procedure). Another issue with the Mk7 is the fact they use lead-free solder on the construction of the PCBs. The composite used is not upto the same standard, and would start to deteriorate from about 5 years from manufacture. Unlike other Technics products, the Mk7 is not a high quality Japanese product so bear this in mind - and its important that anyone doing a review must mention this. Original models have increased considerably in value as they are very sought after. Again this is partly due to the more accurate analogue VCO pitch. Digital pitch controls suffer aliasing and non linearity errors (like a micro judder) which is what some people have noticed on the Mk5G. There are other issues with the Mk7 so once again my advice is stick with your originals.

    • @djkit
      @djkit  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Surprised you're not recommending the VL12..

    • @stevebird5674
      @stevebird5674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Had my mk7s about a year. I had brand new mk2s back in the day and although I would say the mk2 was a lot more solid I would say the mk7 lock the mix much tighter with no drift. The mk2s were tight but had a slight drift. It will be interesting to see how they wear in time.

    • @lordeuronymous
      @lordeuronymous 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So then the same would be for the GR or GAE?

    • @specbolt
      @specbolt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevebird5674 I have to agree with this statement, though I thought the opposite would be true prior to actually playing on them.

  • @drummergurlxoxo
    @drummergurlxoxo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No matter the gear , the user has to have skill. I’ve seen amazing DJs work w beat up Stanton’s. All skill!

  • @michaelfreeman272
    @michaelfreeman272 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the video. The weight difference is 70's tech vs 2019 tech. It says on the Technics product page that there is a mixture of composite materials in the deck that actually makes it more vibration proof even though its lighter. The pop-up light. I wonder if its on a rubber base so that it does not snap off if knocked hard ? Hence the wobble ? The light on the 1210 Mk2 always looked a bit out of place to me, I prefer the new one.

    • @jeremymurphy6095
      @jeremymurphy6095 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the MK2 target light is a joke......and has made me enough money.

  • @jamesjackson2998
    @jamesjackson2998 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have recently upgraded from the mk3d to the mk7. Although i do still prefer the pop up light from the mk3d, one thing worth mentioning is that the mk7 uses LED, so im guessing they will last longer? And they are slightly brighter i think.

    • @oldstyleanalog6459
      @oldstyleanalog6459 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      U made the biggest error by getting mk 7.I guess u love ur l.e.d.light.cheeply made and a lighter turntable.

  • @4vinylsound
    @4vinylsound ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the difference on the inside to make it much lighter than the M K2

  • @Klynch111
    @Klynch111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dad has a mark 2 since the 90s and it's still going strong

    • @djkit
      @djkit  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tell him to keep good care of it!

  • @sawyerthereal
    @sawyerthereal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love a comparison between the new Mk7 and the Denon V12. And tell me which feel better made.

    • @user-gz9dv5rt4j
      @user-gz9dv5rt4j 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Technics MK7 .Direct drive coreless motor ..

  • @moneymagnampo3355
    @moneymagnampo3355 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have both. I also have the Rev7. Love them all. I had my RCA and ground wire replaced on my MK2’s and my wife took apart my tonearm Base and cleaned it up and greased it. Good thing there’s a guy in my area that can fix just about anything on the original 1200’s. As for my MK7’s, I just wanted new ones. If you have the money buy what you want.

    • @matteomelfa
      @matteomelfa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you have any issues with feedback/resonance on the mk7?

    • @user-gz9dv5rt4j
      @user-gz9dv5rt4j 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      M3d 1200sl, prefer MK7 - pich control is great..

  • @craigyp6667
    @craigyp6667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've just got a pair of mk2's for £500 got lucky really good condition I sold my 1200's when I was young and honestly i regretted as soon as the guy took them the mk2's are the dogs bollox great video

    • @Sairamark
      @Sairamark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      happend with me the same, now im hunting a pair of mk2 or mk5

    • @Eyeballpaul84
      @Eyeballpaul84 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sairamark any joy

  • @tonesbones502
    @tonesbones502 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bought a new Mk7 and very happy with it. Quite surprising to see how passionate many commentors are, some people are talking it down without ever using one.

    • @user-gz9dv5rt4j
      @user-gz9dv5rt4j 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      MK7 Iis great turntable ...i have pair 1200 MK7

  • @DjPhaseFour
    @DjPhaseFour 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The coffin with my mk5s will be under my coffin when I'm buried.

    • @naleenperera1969
      @naleenperera1969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why Your Propose To Buried Your MK5s With Your Coffin ? In Vain I Propose You To Offer To Some One Who Interest To Use It.

    • @Cam-gk9ms
      @Cam-gk9ms 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@naleenperera1969 at the end of me is the end of my journey in looking for vinyls far and wide just to bring home to play on my 1210's.. I wouldn't mind being buried with my tables lol

    • @MrDarrenmountford
      @MrDarrenmountford 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And when archaeologists dig you up in the future,they will still work lol

    • @djfaddaheventgroup2218
      @djfaddaheventgroup2218 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahahahaahahaha

  • @justanotherguyfromthenorth5791
    @justanotherguyfromthenorth5791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m surprised you didn’t mention the dip switches underneath the platter. One can adjust the break and torque, colour of the LEDs and even 78 Rpm!

    • @djkit
      @djkit  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hindsight is a terrible thing!

  • @jamesmckay4843
    @jamesmckay4843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the name of that track he was playing when testing out the turntables? I been asking around and no one knows it! I recorded it on my phone. Awesome track!!! Please let me know if you know, thanks!

    • @jamesmckay4843
      @jamesmckay4843 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! Thanks! Now i'm finally getting some where. Do you know the name of the remix he was playing? I like that remix a lot, but don't know the name of it to try to track it down. I'm thinking it came out around 2013. Thanks for the helpful info!!!

  • @mariusvanwitzenburg
    @mariusvanwitzenburg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The weight difference is the way how the driver is build and it has a lighter power supply. I personally use them in a case so that wouldn't be a problem. It actually makes it a bit easier for travel.
    One thing I am going to customise is the bottom ABS cover. Going to coat it with a rubber layer to isolate it a little bit more.

    • @user-hd8kd9hy3f
      @user-hd8kd9hy3f 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Direct drive motor on mk 7 is bether than MK2

  • @TheTomonion
    @TheTomonion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Just sold my MK2s. 20 years of abuse and still worked a treat they just looked a little bashed up and needed a service. I have purchased the MK7s and not regretting it. FYI - The target pops up and pushes down on the MK7. I think its a cool feature and definitely not a monstrosity if you push it down. The only thing I wish it had was a green light at centre / middle pitch. The MK2s pitch was green when it was at a neutral pitch. The build quality on the MK7 is beautiful and the all black tone arm and shell looks so sexy. Great video just wanted to note the target light pushes in. Happy mixing!

    • @hesayshesay8839
      @hesayshesay8839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nice mate, just ordered a pair myself coming from a different brand, seeing a lot of negativity online though!

    • @TheTomonion
      @TheTomonion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hesayshesay8839 You won't regret it! I love them.

    • @lordeuronymous
      @lordeuronymous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hesayshesay8839 I use a mk7 for hifi use and don’t regret it at all. I have a mk2 as well. Love the mk7.

    • @Eyeballpaul84
      @Eyeballpaul84 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hesayshesay8839 oh no 😢 I feel for you

    • @lordeuronymous
      @lordeuronymous 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Eyeballpaul84 Just Technics lies because his whole business is restoring the old models. He even bashed the mk5g.

  • @jamielovell4253
    @jamielovell4253 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've used the legendary mk2s, had to buy the stanton s150s 12 years ago when technics discontinued the 1200s. Theyve been tanks at 16kgs each and were a great price but still want to get some technics, the mk2s are old now are parts are running low, plus dead spot in the pitch etc. Looking at the mk7s just because I'd rather get new than 20 year old decks for cosmetic reasons and warranty. I mix real dnb records and dvs with a xone 92 mixer. What to get?
    2s or 7s

    • @abumc5104
      @abumc5104 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Jamie Lovell, i watched all sorts of videos about the SL1200's technics before & after buying a pair of 2nd hand mkII.
      i'd recommend made in japan, because they are 'HAND MADE' - go with the sl1210gr or sl1210g !!!
      money comes & goes and backwards too \°°/ IMHO

  • @leyland9999
    @leyland9999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looked at from above I noticed the distance of the tone arm towards the platter differs and it seems the angle of the cartridge differs as well. The Mk.7 clearly is not built like the original no matter how it performs as a DJ-tool. Greetings from Hekelingen, Holland

  • @Tandelicious
    @Tandelicious 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Slight correct, the Mk7 can be switched to enable 78rpm using the dip switches under the platter. Then you can press both 45 and 33 buttons to get 78.

    • @jenshartmann384
      @jenshartmann384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But For what...????..nobody has got records running at 78rpm.😂😂😂

    • @jenshartmann384
      @jenshartmann384 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ölcrem Drecrahn ok. Iknow those records....but I hardly believe that anyone plays their shellac records on a Technics 1210🙄

  • @MakingMadBeats
    @MakingMadBeats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What' s the name of the track that uses the sample as Big Puns "Still Not A Player", please? THX

    • @jamesmckay4843
      @jamesmckay4843 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Having the same issue trying to figure out that track. Awesome track! Recorded it on my phone and been asking around and no one knows it, ugh!

    • @thehometreestem1802
      @thehometreestem1802 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesmckay4843 Da original is a 1979 classic called 'A Little Bit Of Love' by Brenda Russell, nothin beats having da originals n playin them back-back in appreciation.

  • @turfoid7899
    @turfoid7899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The amount of times ive accident,y knocked the on off knob on the sl1200s, lol i waslucky enough to own, unbox a brand new pair factory fresh in my life, and mixed on them for 30 years. 1 of the other reasons us OGs dont want a new pair, is because we know they have been battle tested, and longevity. Part of the success of the technics turntables, was the fact they made them TOO GOOD. So good, they never broke, and only needed minor service. Unfortunatey. In 2010. Tue CDJ took over sales, and slowly killed off technics turntables. It sucks Technics decided to release the mk7 instead of making og decks!
    P.s. 17:09 good djs dont share needles

  • @johnbravo7542
    @johnbravo7542 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jimmy is damn good at what he does

  • @garryburns0178
    @garryburns0178 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching the Video on a MK2 platter was almost exactly the same as watching it on a mk 7 platter. Ensuring not having to turn phone round and round during video. Haha. 😆

  • @Friend.from.school
    @Friend.from.school 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I learnt something today

  • @davidwilliam9056
    @davidwilliam9056 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😊 fantastic ! A real Technics fan here ✨✨🎧🎊✨✨still have my { SL1200 Mk2 Silver } years and going strong!!! but ~ after this review it’s time for a Technics Mk7 ? The….. light & weight of deck wud bother me 😮 but it’s the real deal of jocking !!!!!! We’re all in “TECHNICS” club. November 2023. Definitely 💯 great 👍 review guys & great scrating.

  • @ericlloyd7981
    @ericlloyd7981 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I only got a pair of MK2 1200's since I got into mixing on Pioneer CDJ's a few years ago and if anyone said I wasn't a real DJ with those then I would unveil these and start mixing just as well.

    • @djkit
      @djkit  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a shame that people say that about CDJ DJs!

  • @4vinylsound
    @4vinylsound ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My main issue is the weight you really need a solid heavy turntable and the light weight MK7 really really throws me off because I really want a technique but don't want to spend $4000 for the G.

  • @jiggygreco1136
    @jiggygreco1136 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice vibe those guys have

    • @djkit
      @djkit  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! It's great to have a positive comment! Enjoy your day!

  • @MrFARTSANDWICH
    @MrFARTSANDWICH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do a shot every time one of these guys says so, and a bong hit every time they say yeah.

  • @DJTequilaandIce
    @DJTequilaandIce 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Same story - I owned a pair of MK2s in the 90s, had kids sold them kicking myself. Eventually replaced them with the PLX1000- it took me a while to get used to the higher torque and digital pitch but now I'm good with them - I don't need to spend $2k on a new pair of MK7s.

    • @djkit
      @djkit  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      PLX-1000s are incredible turntables!

    • @FSwiftDJ
      @FSwiftDJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      mixed on plx1000 they are performance drops & scratching turntables !!! if you compare your mixing to your mk2s, I bet your mixing is lot tighter on them and longer transitions , your never going to get MK2 pitch performance from pioneers , it's digital step sequence pitch !!! designed for dvs not real vinyl

    • @DJTequilaandIce
      @DJTequilaandIce 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FSwiftDJ I've never tested them side by side. But I'm sure you are correct. I've been able to mix just fine on vinyl with the plx1000s - don't really notice it. All new turntables from now on will have digital pitch faders - even the new Technics MK7s have a digital pitch fader. it's something I've just accepted.

    • @FSwiftDJ
      @FSwiftDJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DJTequilaandIce the technics Mk7 slider is unique , it's A/D pitch !!! digital controller PCB and Analog fader slider, it's not the same , pioneers plx are handpin motors, exact same turntable as reloops & denons

    • @thevibnylshack
      @thevibnylshack 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FSwiftDJ I have a new set of PLX1000s. I hate them for mixing. Absolute rubbish

  • @dc110770
    @dc110770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After selling mine 15 years ago, I now have the money to buy some back. I loved the MK2 but they are expensive. For not much more I can get MK7...?

    • @McRizzle23
      @McRizzle23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If your just a casual / home dj then yeah why not. We really don't know how long the Mk7 will last for compared to the mk2. Yiu buy mk2 today and it will definitely be working in 10years time. Mk7... Who knows

    • @pauldagger8302
      @pauldagger8302 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@McRizzle23 out of interest, how long do you keep your cars, TVs, Sofas, beds etc etc. If it doesn’t last 10 years who gives a F. My cars cost 20k plus and don’t last half that long. And for the record, people have been saying since the dawn of time; ‘how long will a turntable last’ for EVERY deck that’s come out since Technics 1210 (mostly hangpin) guess what; they are all still going!

    • @lordeuronymous
      @lordeuronymous 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pauldagger8302 Even the cheap Crosley players from 10 years ago still go strong. It’s just the older generation crying that they made a few changes.

  • @Unknown_Artist2.718
    @Unknown_Artist2.718 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a pair of GRs and they’re fine for mixing on. The Mk2 was a hifi table when it first came out. The build quality is far better than what you get on a MK7. You get what you pay for.

  • @billscott6819
    @billscott6819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have my mk2s on my desk right here. Got them on my 21st bday in 1993 at a place in Boston that sold appliances. Yellow pages find lol.

    • @djkit
      @djkit  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Make sure you get them serviced regularly ! 😍

  • @BF4pawntard
    @BF4pawntard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Got a pair of 1210’s and considered buying the mk7’s and they feel like the 1210’s but the build quality and electronics are not in the same level as the 1210’s . I have had them 20 years and I have no doubt I’ll have them forever . The old story about parts getting rare is mute as there are refurb shops in the states making parts if needed , mine have never been serviced and feel like they did as new . They do not make electronic items to last anymore and the best electronics are made in Japan . The mk7 made in malaysia. Nuff said

    • @user-gz9dv5rt4j
      @user-gz9dv5rt4j 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Techics mk7 ,Matsuhita electronic Panasonic

  • @Sadiquecat
    @Sadiquecat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, really cool vid and im surprised :D owning the rp 7000mk2 and playing a few times on techics 1200mk2 i must say there’s something about technics that feel just right. Happy to hear the mk7 are just better.

    • @noobslayerr9732
      @noobslayerr9732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You know what feels right vs the reloop? The fact you can blend like king if cool without the pitch accuracy after 8secs be all over the place. The onky table ive found being in line with the pitch acc/y of techies are the plx1000s

    • @BlueHawk80
      @BlueHawk80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mk7 sucks: th-cam.com/video/BtDn8dVZHHQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @DJGeorgeDisco
      @DJGeorgeDisco 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@noobslayerr9732 yes yes, the PLX-1000 pitch sliders are very nice indeed.

    • @user-gz9dv5rt4j
      @user-gz9dv5rt4j 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      just liisten music ..@@DJGeorgeDisco

  • @carlocinelli6814
    @carlocinelli6814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The comparison must be made with the SL1210m5g model ( year 2004) not 1200-10 mk2 years 1979 then let's see who is better

  • @dukromeo
    @dukromeo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i enjoy the bit about the newer cheap and not so sturdy light
    and how many times you play with the antique wearing it out... lol
    try it a few more times. it's cool easy to repair and tons of parts amirite?

  • @Frankie_Fish
    @Frankie_Fish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These guys haven't read the manual.
    Under the platter are dipswitches where you can set different functions. (easily accessible through the two holes in the platter, or by removing the entire platter)
    Functions like: The startup torque (4 different torque settings) and brake (4 different brake settings), the LED color. (the classic red or blue for all LED's except the pop-up tracklight)
    But also the function of the combined 33-45 buttons. You have two choises of what those buttons pressed together will do: Eighter raise the rpm to 78, or function as a reverse button.

    • @djkit
      @djkit  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Frankey, this was literally a plug and play comparison out of the box! Great that the MK7 has got that capability, it makes it even more of a fantastic turntable!

  • @onegoodwave308
    @onegoodwave308 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you

  • @freecanadaland
    @freecanadaland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What’s the difference between the SL-1200MK7 vs SL-1210MK7 and are theses still Made in Japan?

    • @thedjguru
      @thedjguru 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Outside of Europe, Technics chose to call it the SL1200, in Europe its the 1210 - Dumb AF if you ask me.

    • @eltruheyo
      @eltruheyo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thedjguru So no difference in the machine, just the name difference of where you live?

    • @icinfin117
      @icinfin117 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      MK7 are not made in Japan.

    • @klokettte
      @klokettte หลายเดือนก่อน

      1200 silver 1210 Black thats it.

  • @djhaloeight
    @djhaloeight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve yet to get my hands on a MK7, but from
    what I can see online, they look cheaper, they’re lighter, they may have a resonance problem, the pop-up light isn’t smoothly damped, it pops up fast and cheap-like, the tonearm section has some ‘wiggle’ to it from the base, etc.
    I bought my pair of 1200MK2s in 2005 and I’m never gonna get rid of them. They’re still like new..despite me dragging them to all sorts of parties when I was younger 😂. They’re safe in flight cases at home now. Frankie Bones even played on them awhile back and tagged both of them up 😆😆. You can’t beat the feel of proper MK2/MK5 analog pitch. I’ll have to reserve final judgement on the MK7s until I get some mixing and blending time on them.

    • @daddychunk
      @daddychunk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      djhaloeight , there shit!!! I was so upset at how cheap and shitty they feel compared to an original mk2. Don’t even think of downgrading, I sold mine after 2 months and lost a lot of money, I now have two GR’s which are the true replacement to the mk2........but I’m still not happy ⁉️ guys an girls if you have a lovely pair of 1210 mk2/5 keep them!! 👍

    • @daman7129
      @daman7129 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daddychunk why aren't you happy about the gr? Digital pitch?

    • @daddychunk
      @daddychunk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      daman 71 no the digital pitch is fine👍 it still does have that “nothing point at the very end, but not a problem. They are beautifully built! They do sound better than original mk2 but not by a huge margin. The feet are more wobbly, but that’s for feedback, and there not as bad as some have said! But !! I was disappointed with the wobble.! They don’t stop like the original mk2!!! There slower, that’s not a problem mixing, I know but when I’m flicking through records, I want it to stop dead !!! Like the original. This new expensive new motor design I think was because of time code users (hifi/DJ) they were aiming for perfection! To eliminate “clogging” which no one has heard or accounted?? Maybe time code purists did? Overall they are beautiful definitely not worth the price!! I’m 44 and know my shit, anyone who wants a Technics look for second hand mk3!!!! The best deck I have used “performance wise” was Stanton ST150! 🙏

    • @user-of6jv7rk7s
      @user-of6jv7rk7s 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@daddychunkso i should look for mk3?

  • @Djpaullavell
    @Djpaullavell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    wiggles the platter "as you can see, little movement" - waa? that platter was all over the place!

  • @scotty200480
    @scotty200480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still got my mark 2’s, 1994 I bought them when I was 14yr. They are in my loft. Still the only way I could dj, CDJ’s in the 90’s were too much money and wouldn’t know where to start with digital system. How much do mk 2’s go for nowadays, in case I need the cash?

    • @djkit
      @djkit  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahh how times have changed! Now vinyl is much more expensive!

    • @user-gz9dv5rt4j
      @user-gz9dv5rt4j 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Every turntable is best than static Pioneer CDJ jog dial ..

  • @LVZ87
    @LVZ87 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a pair of MK2's that need a lil love. I'm looking to sell them and need a honest opinion on what I should let them go for and a selling location. I live in Ontario..

  • @nomel-pm7eh
    @nomel-pm7eh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Had my 1210mk2 for 25 years

    • @johnheron8198
      @johnheron8198 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      nomel 1210 21 for me!

    • @johnscardy
      @johnscardy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      20 years and not one single problem

  • @NativesMC
    @NativesMC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review. I was hoping you all would have removed the platters, I hear they are quite different. Malaysia vs. Japan made seems to be the biggest difference.

    • @djkit
      @djkit  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching!

  • @TJ-nr9cg
    @TJ-nr9cg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got a 1210 mk2, late 70s in almost brand new condition for sale. Pics and video available. Will go below eBay prices.

    • @MichalGolata
      @MichalGolata ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you still got it ?

    • @TJ-nr9cg
      @TJ-nr9cg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MichalGolata no. Sold it guy

    • @MichalGolata
      @MichalGolata ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TJ-nr9cg No worries looking for decent mk2 or m5g

  • @TheAnunnaki-NYC
    @TheAnunnaki-NYC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Although I’m happy Technics brought back the 1200 range. I still prefer the original MK2 model’s cause I’m just to use to the feel of those and also I prefer the build quality of the MK2. I just prefer the nice silver buttons and the chrome tone arm, silver strobe light housing and counter weight with the back rubber grip. Even the little silver ring at the top of the feets on the MK2. The thing I’m not big is the giant cut out that is on the back side panel of the unit. Looks ugly and similar to the super OEM units. If the detachable cable was designed like the MK4 (Japan only) design. Then it would have been perfect. I just like the filled out back side of the original MK series. I would think that has to be part of the reason the newer MK series are more lighter. Also I prefer the analog QUARTZ locked pitch system than the newer digital system and of course the all metal silver 45 adapter and I’m glad they touched on the difference on the pop up target light which is clearly a more superior build quality on the older MK series. Although I do prefer the newer ultra white LED light they use now. In conclusion I would say the MK7 is more closely comparable to the MK3D model with the pushed in power switch and spare head shell holder and the pitch reset button and notch less “0” point on the pitch slider.

    • @djsubculture2786
      @djsubculture2786 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately, Technics will never bring back the analog pitch adjust.

  • @panamaJ
    @panamaJ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The classic SL1200/1210 is the Rolex watch of turntables. In this bullshit world on constant upgrading why would you need to? I bought mine second hand when I was 18. Played literally hundreds of raves, parties etc. carried them, bumped them. I did have them in flight cases but they still look great and work perfectly. I’m 46 now! All I’ve ever done is replace the RCA cables and carts.

    • @djkit
      @djkit  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's great to hear mate, you're one of the lucky ones!

  • @dmgsoultogetherness6667
    @dmgsoultogetherness6667 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    96'? still got mine and still love them mk7 looks good too

  • @Valkemist
    @Valkemist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like a comparison between "old" mk2 and sl1210GR, because same weight and both made in japan, while mk7 is 9,6 kg. and made in Malaysia....(price apart)

    • @djkit
      @djkit  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We'll put it on the to do list. However, a lot of people say the GR isn't fit for DJing, only as a hifi turntable!

    • @Valkemist
      @Valkemist 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@djkit thanks, I read something but I don't understand why, the construction is better in the GR (vs mk7), and I don't think the different weight of the plate can influence, the torque is just higher, and more on this, other brands like Pioneer or Stanton have an even greater torque, only the price remains, but if one is willing to spend for the highest quality and 'made in Japan', why not? In my opinion....

    • @jayrodriguez5093
      @jayrodriguez5093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@djkit Actually, the mk2 weren't designed with DJs in mind, it is in fact a hi-fi turntable that it's really good for DJing

  • @user-gz9dv5rt4j
    @user-gz9dv5rt4j 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Using a pair of MK7s for almost 2 year can honestly say that mixing ånd beat matching is a bliss with these..Pich control is very accurate ..

    • @Dominicanbulk
      @Dominicanbulk 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      No issue with bass feedback? Precision of the pitch control is consistent? No issues with drag or speeding up?

  • @marlondelibasic
    @marlondelibasic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I press 33 & 45rpm together on my Reloop's the Stargate opens to another dimension! 😂I am looking forward to by a pair of these babys MK7.😍

    • @benjamincolbert4992
      @benjamincolbert4992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be 78bpm!

    • @djkit
      @djkit  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds great!

    • @marlondelibasic
      @marlondelibasic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benjamincolbert4992 I know bro, but thx. 👍

  • @kborn1239
    @kborn1239 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the track that he drops at 23:40?

    • @jimineedles
      @jimineedles 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jimi Needles - Hit Me ;-)

  • @aguycalledrae218
    @aguycalledrae218 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a side note, pioneer own technics and has done for. If I remember rightly 30 odd years..

  • @TTVEaGMXde
    @TTVEaGMXde 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Made in Malaysia, but at least without the antique AN6675 (Motor Drive IC with cast heat sink).😉

  • @agnieszkanika4993
    @agnieszkanika4993 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What with Feedback ?

  • @Jean-LouisMayans
    @Jean-LouisMayans 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tired to find a Mint MKII turntable? Go and buy the MK7 with no doubt, is a beast. Got a pair!💥

  • @bearded_wolverine3503
    @bearded_wolverine3503 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have to say, my 30 year old MKII is still running like a top. In near mint condition and I wouldn't trade it for anything. Aside from some very light cosmetic scratches on the top side of the plinth, my MKII is in pristine condition. Let's not look over the fact that servicing a MKII is quite easy to do or have done. I just serviced my spindle, removed the whole thing, tore down the thrust plate, cleaned and oiled it and put it back in. I'll be good for a another 2000 hours. The MKII are the workhorse of any of the 1200 series.

  • @mr.mr.3662
    @mr.mr.3662 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the 1200MK2 will never get rid of them

  • @FSwiftDJ
    @FSwiftDJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    just technics has the best review he tells you what's what with the technics sl1210 Mk7 , it has platter issues , grounding and the pitch is not accurate on 7-8% it's known to technics now, they are the best digital pitch turntables out there, they look great but I'm sorry your not highlighting the issues with them

    • @joedjsymphony
      @joedjsymphony 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jay is the boyo of Technics

    • @megacrab
      @megacrab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're absolutely right! The MK7s have a lot of issues, not to mention feedback problems...

    • @djkit
      @djkit  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks FSSwift, this was literally a plug and play comparison out of the box! Great that the MK7 has got that capability, it makes it even more of a fantastic turntable!

    • @FSwiftDJ
      @FSwiftDJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@djkit no worries sorry was only pointing out , you guys have great channel , but I think Panasonic technics need to update the issues , the potential is there but it remains to be seen if djs or technics will ever discover it

    • @thenow5559
      @thenow5559 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FSwiftDJ how about GR models do they also have issues?

  • @user-hd8kd9hy3f
    @user-hd8kd9hy3f 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mk7 - best diriect drive corless motor.Pich control is great..

  • @DjNikGnashers
    @DjNikGnashers ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Instead of using a battered old Mk2, you should have borrowed a serviced one from Jay at Just Technics, at least it would have been a fairer comparison.

    • @djkit
      @djkit  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @DjNikGnashers
      @DjNikGnashers ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@djkit Good to see the later versions (of the Mk7) have cured the dead spot in the pitch between 7 and 8 % though, it shows the company do listen and take notice of consumers.

  • @Anonymous74GR
    @Anonymous74GR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It makes a difference and none of you have looked for it yet I know it very well If you put the needle on the disc and turn up the volume you will hear distortion from the speakers in a separate different channel try it do the Technics is the best test overtakes and the Pioneer

  • @garryburns0178
    @garryburns0178 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    DJ Jimmy. Bwooooooooooy. Heh heh.😎.loved it

  • @paulholla
    @paulholla 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As if he didn't know about the light!!

  • @Darkone7
    @Darkone7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    got 1210 for music great def audio file mk2

  • @D_2_da_K87
    @D_2_da_K87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It actually shocks me how many people don't know what the strobe dots are for.

  • @pauljamplay513
    @pauljamplay513 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry but is wrong what you say about pinch position on Quartz Light. The poit O, 3.3, etc its for see if your pitch botton is working write.

  • @dtwistrewind7361
    @dtwistrewind7361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Analogue pitch over the digital pitch all day long for beat mixing, just my preference.

    • @user-gz9dv5rt4j
      @user-gz9dv5rt4j 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pich fader on Mk7 is better than Mk2 ..Tracks just stay locked for more than a minute!

    • @dtwistrewind7361
      @dtwistrewind7361 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@user-gz9dv5rt4jI've tried both and if the analogue pitch is calibrated correctly I've found it personally to be rock solid compared to the digital pitches, maybe I've just been lucky

  • @jimineedles
    @jimineedles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just gonna go on the record here (lul) and say sure we omitted reviewing the 78rpm speed because who in the comment section has decided to blast a bunch of 78s in the club? Thought not.
    As you were, soldier.

  • @njdewit
    @njdewit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also the MK5 does not have a pitch range multiplier.

  • @whistleblower7078
    @whistleblower7078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everybody commenting how mk2s only had +8 pitch. No they don’t, we’ve been pitching them up to +16 since 1982... 5 seconds with a screwdriver is all it takes..

    • @stevenmcguinness4751
      @stevenmcguinness4751 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Whistle Blower Yep, remove the platter and turn the screws

    • @andrewwhale4215
      @andrewwhale4215 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anyone know a guide for that?

    • @whistleblower7078
      @whistleblower7078 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jonathan Brisby take off the platter then remove the plastic cover underneath ( 3 screws if memory serves?) On the motherboard underneath you'll see a small rotary dial (either blue or silver) which is marked 'pitch' Gently turn it clockwise till it stops with a Phillips screwdriver.

    • @DjNikGnashers
      @DjNikGnashers ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@whistleblower7078 I've had Mk2's M3d's and Mk5's, and none of them ever went to +16 maxed out. About + or - 13% is the most you will get/
      Saying that, not a single digital pitch has ever come close to the accuracy of a standard analogue Technics pitch, and when you widen the pitch range they lose accuracy because they are designed for 8%.

  • @chumza7498
    @chumza7498 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1210 still want them

    • @djkit
      @djkit  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mk2s or Mk7s?

  • @LincolnRon
    @LincolnRon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6:43 Not just die hard Technics fans.
    Anybody (Vinyl hi-fi enthusiast or vinyl DJ.) who plays actual vinyl instead of just time code vinyl.

  • @icpizzaboy
    @icpizzaboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    the mk3 only has 8% pitch control there is no button to go to 16% it still uses an analog slider and has a quartz reset button and has the power switch improvement'

  • @josephfranco1495
    @josephfranco1495 ปีที่แล้ว

    Torque specs & comparison?

    • @user-gz9dv5rt4j
      @user-gz9dv5rt4j 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Technics mk7 1,6 to 1,8 platter torque ...

  • @user-zu2cb3ds5h
    @user-zu2cb3ds5h 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    MK7 1200 sl silver - briliant turntable .Pich control is accurate.Great for deep house mixing.Bether than mk3d

  • @Paul_MuadDib_Atreides
    @Paul_MuadDib_Atreides 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1200MK5 has no 16% pitch. Only 8% and reset button.