ASL: Fingerspelling: Receptive Practice (John) (advanced)(expansion u.7)
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- Dr. Bill providing John fingerspelling practice.
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Here's $10 for the great work you're doing! Thank you.
Yes, will share too!
I think you may have put one two many adj.
Nathan,
You just might be right.
(Its a good thing I'm so heart touchingly humble -- or the list might have been considerably longer.)
this almost made me cry :-(
I've rewatched the video a few times. At first it felt almost like "cheating" -- once you know the words, they are much easier to follow.
But then I realized that's the point, and that it's something to be encouraged. It is a step in the right direction that my brain is picking up on "this is how SILK looks" or "this is how FLEECE is fingerspelled" without needing to spell the letters one by one every time.
I love your videos!
I love how happy Dr.Vicar is all the time. It makes me smile whenever I practice my ASL. 😊
"Plastic" was so hard I almost wanted to bang my head against the wall
I came to the comments to say "plastic" nearly killed me.
Ah yes, I am an evil supervillain causing mayhem via fingerspelling "plastic" to unsuspecting ASL learners.
Mwahahahaha!
Oh hey, my wrists and hands do indeed occasionally get tired. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and they are numb or worse -- the nerves fire indiscriminately. I try to eat an anti-inflammatory diet and take turmeric and various other supplements. Old age will get me eventually but not without a serious and sustained fight. Arthritis is trying to take over my hands so I spend a significant amount of time each day literally doing self-therapy to bend and straighten the fingers so that I can keep doing what I love to do: Teach ASL.
@@sign-language Please take care of your health, Teacher Bill. Thanks for teaching me through all these videos. (I'm hearing and no deaf friends, but I find ASL interesting and hope to help others in need.)
Bill another great video
and good job to John that was challenging!
At 10:00 mark
Bill fs-S-T-Y-L-E
John ( after moment) types: style
John: SORRY
Bill (laughing) types: "the audience is just glad it is you taking the heat and not them"
Me (nodding YES at screen): TRU+BIZ
This quiz idea is great - I really need to improve my fingerspelling reception and something like this is _very_ useful. Thanks for the video!
This one is great! I need advanced Fingerspelling exercises and they're hard to find online, they have ones that will automatically do the letters but it's not organic and the handshapes are different in real life. Plus you not slowing down is great practice. The fact that I'm following along is certainly a little pump to the ol' ego. :-) Props to your student, I know it's tough but he did a great job!
I know this is getting close to a year old but could you post more fingerspelling challenges as hard as this one? They're very good practice to watch!
Thank you so much for this! I practice fingerspelling every day but don’t get much practice on the receptive side in asl class. This has and will continue to help me a ton.
“Polyester” about killed me but after a long time spent rewinding the video I eventually got it lol
Polyester absolutely murdered me Lol
Your patience (the patience of any good teacher) is amazing! I could never.
I feel like I have the fingerspelling equivalence of dyslexia. I might catch all the letters, but then put them in the wrong position. Frustrating!
That was SO much fun! Like playing charades. I was yelling "No, dude, it's polyester, it's polyester" and I was so happy when he got suede, I was yelling "Get the U, get the U" and "No, don't just guess, it's not sick, it's not slick....silk, it's silk! And the way they were laughing, and Bill's repetitive slow coaching (I ran this at 1/4 speed). So entertaining! I was so proud when I got some of them (Like John, I could not get sunglasses without the demonstration). What a great video! I laughed and laughed.
This was incredibly hard form me but would love more tests like this for practice, I find receptive anything so hard so it's always nice to have these videos when I'm not at an ASL gathering or class. Thanks for these!
I thought this student had quick eyes! Well done!
This was so helpful. My receptive fingerspelling and closure needs so much work and I noticed that I was getting better as the video went on. I was more able to see the word as a whole instead of individual letters because Dr. Bill kept the flow of the word, even when he slowed it down. This has helped me get to thinking about reading fingerspelling as a whole word and not a cluster of letters. So helpful.
"Tights" was the toughest for me.
The description says ASL 5 and up... I've completed ASL 3 and this video was pretty easy for me. Although we did do a lot of fingerspelling practice in my class because most kids would kind of focus on the vocabulary and forget to brush up on fingerspelling. I do tend to fingerspell often though, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't losing my receptive skill.
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I'm a semi beginner, I've know the alphabet for a while but just started learning the full language and I'm so happy that I was able to understand at almost the exact same time as John, sometimes even beforehand! Fingerspelling is the most intimidating part of learning sign for me, especially because the letters are hard to differentiate from the movements in between. This is incredibly helpful! Repetition at different angles, and slowing down but not so much that it's easy. Thank you so much for your contribution to free ASL education :)
Tht was intense but good practice! Thank you
Good job!!! Well done! This helped me a lot as well. Very nice to have this exposure and some lexicalized verbiage to understand. Thank you!!
You were right, I was happy it wasn't me in the hotseat! I hope he gets the job!!! :):) :)
It did make it easier knowing he was going in alphabetical order and noticing a connection with the words.
Which context helps!
A few I got noticeable letters like L, U, Y, I... then had to piece it together. S, E, M, N, T are a little harder to catch.
This was so helpful thank you! It really strengthens your focus I have trouble with this also
JOhn! You did well! I am just glad it was not me ! HEY ! Your facial expressions were the best!
😂😂well I definitely got humbled in this video.....think I'll wait a bit B4 I go to my deaf coffee mixer 😂❤❤
Ha! Funny.
Go anyway and enjoy the challenge.
Amazing work you are doing.
Thank you.
His confidence after finally getting one right 😂
I like it way bill vicar spells.instructor is bill vicar. student begins to understand words.
My facial expressions were just like John’s. Hahaha thanks for the practice
Can you please do more of these!!!
Can you sign to your dog that they're a good boy/girl for me? :))
Will do. She is sprawled out under my desk as I type this.
She is indeed a very good dog.
That'd be cool to teach ASL commands to your dog, actually.
@@Balthazar2242 I now talk to my dogs in sign. They know: sit, stay, dinnertime, wait, good, come, go to bed, down, up, and car. Maybe Dr Vicars could come test my dogs and make a video of it. :-)
@@lisahinton9682 Omg how did you teach? That sounds awesome! HAHA
This is a lot of fun and really helpful. I'd recommend zooming in on the hand or at least giving a head on angle.
Sure -- but then again this way is good for practicing reading fingerspelling at the angle in the video.
Perhaps some of the other angles might work for you. See:
th-cam.com/video/va1aAXpVr2w/w-d-xo.html
I really appreciate this video.
This is a good video for those who want to be able to read fingerspelled words at a quick pace. By the way, Bill committed a fashion crime by wearing a solid black tie on a solid black dress shirt.
If you watch any of my other videos you'll notice I'm a "repeat offender."
The question one needs to ask is: Why is the ASL instructor wearing non-contrasting plain dark colors on purpose? Hmmm.
@@sign-language For students to see the hand shapes more clearly!! (Graham in Victoria)
These words are very helpful for people in the book Signing naturally unit 7
That’s what I’m doing! I have a final on 7,8 and 9 tomorrow and I’m frantically trying to learn receptive skills cause I always get a really bad grade on the fingerspelling part
great receptive practice!!!
Yes, I'm hand to ASL, study is working finger!!
your old dog is the cutest
i love your olde dogge
Riley believes it's her job to supervise the studio.
She also thinks she is supposed to help out with the sign language instruction and likes to join me any time I go over to the recording area. She is a rescue dog that served as an animal companion to my youngest child who has Apert Syndrome (and who is now living independently and has been accepted into Utah Valley University).
At first my head hurt.. Usually when I'm learning it's a sign (get it) I'll get there lol
I got all happy when I got some haha
anyone else.?
good job and me too its good practice. thanks
I was going crazy i need more practice
Good . Thank you
A good use for random word generators is for fingerspelling practice. I'm getting more used to it, but I keep wanting to swap the T to R, the R to X, and the X to a mangled claw. Lots more as well, it's like the keyboard being off by one space and sideways, and in a dark box with a cat in it, and it isn't even your cat. Now I understand the challenge put to muah-dib in the movie Dune! Otherwise it's fine and i'm improving with practice~
What sign is the F near the forehead? John signs it at least three times. Thanks!
Tip: When asking what "such and such" sign means it is very helpful to include the exact time it occurs in the video (or a second or two in advance). That way folks that want to help don't have to watch an extensive portion of the video to find the sign to which you are referring.
@@sign-language Thanks for the response to my question. The sign was at 2:18 the F sign at the forehead. At first I thought it was the sign for "forget" but I'm not sure. Thanks
It is the sign for "clueless" and/or to have no knowledge about a topic. (Based on the idea of having nothing in the head."
th-cam.com/video/wM6DAJpMpFU/w-d-xo.html
Im glad I struggled through this before reading that it was advanced 😅
Ah, the many things we could do if only we didn't "know" we can't do them.
I'd love to be able to practice with you! So few people around me sign, though my husband has taken an interest in learning
Fingerspelling, i need improve
I'm in level 2 ASL. I can fingerspell just find, but receptive finger spelling has been the most difficult part of ASL for me to understand/comprehend so far. It is really difficult for me.
If you haven't tried it yet, you might enjoy this website for a bit of receptive fingerspelling practice:
asl.ms/mobile/
yay! I enjoyed this! :)
Fast! That hurt my brain there for a minute lol!
that dog totally surprised me and got me so excited at 12:30 am 😂 love the special guest appearance!!! curious if that's your dog, Bill, & wondering if you communicate or teach any sign language to the dog (if of course, it is your doggy) ?
Indeed that is my dog, Riley. Or rather she is the dog I take care of after my youngest daughter moved away and graciously let me be the caretaker. Riley served as our doorbell for quite a while. Now she is as Deaf as Bee and I and only gets up AFTER she sees the door open. Sure, she understands basic signs like sit, stay, come here, go there, etc.
John did bettet than me with style. Sheesh
This was lit
Is the way he does "z" in "size" (starts at 8:15) a variation or just a really tiny z? I feel like I'm used to seeing it as a bigger motion where the index finger traces out a z, not this double tapping motion (or am I not seeing this right?). Would love to know more
I'm just doing a small, fast, z.
Try using the gear icon to slow it down or use your space bar and then "." period key to step through it frame by frame.
This video might be of interest to you:
Coarticulation effects in American Sign Language (ASL)
th-cam.com/video/SATsyIl_C_Q/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for your videos. You make learning fun. I get so caught up in learning that I forget to enjoy learning a new language and my goal of communicating with a whole group of people. I still struggle with "seeing" words spelled. Your tip on spelling to yourself is really helpful. I watch videos where Deaf and HOH folks are fingerspelling but I am lost. It is amazing how fast fingerspelling can be. Guess your brain adjusts. I'm trying to look at shapes and not individual letters but guess I am still in the pre-school of fingerspelling.
Omg this is the HARDEST!😭
Wow. That's amazing. I like to watch your best video. Is John deaf or not ?
At the time the video was recorded, John (who can hear) was a recent graduate from a "Deaf Studies & American Sign Language" four-year degree program. The following summer John was doing a Lifeprint.com "summer internship." In-between projects I would drill him on fingerspelling or other skills. He was nice enough (and gutsy enough) to let me video record it. I'm sure it is challenging for my student assistants to "put it all out there" and let the world see them make mistakes, learn, and grow. Thus I'm very proud of and grateful for John and the many others who have been willing to share their journey with you.
p.s. John has been accepted into an Interpreter Preparation Program and plans on eventually becoming an interpreter.
I understand you perfectly. Thanks for your appreciated information. I thought he is deaf because he cannot memorize his brain to see your fast finger spelling. I like to learn your best fingerspelling and american sign language. I am fully deaf from Managua, Nicaragua. This is Donny Hernandez. Thanks for your vlog
Hey what do you suggest for someone trying to study for the performance exam? This definitely helped me get my eyes back focused on FS, but are there videos or any recommendations you have to prepare for the receptive/voicing portion of the exam. It really makes me nervous.
I recommend going to the video tab on my TH-cam channel and clicking on it - then looking for the more advanced videos and watching those. For example, the "camping" video. Also watch "The Daily Moth" channel (just Google "The Daily Moth" and you'll see some links. Then watch those videos and practice voicing them as if you were a newscaster.
i saw that u tapped your fingers twice to form the letter O twice. I've also seen people slide their had to the right (their own right) to do double letters. like in boot. are both correct?
The slide version is definitely "one" of the correct methods.
It varies though. I know for sure when I spell the word "BOO" I slide the O's. Think about the context though -- most people when they "boo" something are actually doing more of a "boooooooo" -- so the extended slide method in that situation works very well to inflect the meaning.
Also, the nature of the letters preceding and coming after the double "O's" will influence whether a person feels like reforming a letter or sliding a letter.
@@sign-language big help! thanks!
@@sign-language I've wondered the same! I've noticed the same signer will sometimes slide a double letter and sometimes reform it and now I understand more why a signer might do it one way versus the other.
You're such a great teacher, and always so happy! Thanks again!
omgg this is not easy for me lol but your fingerspelling is so fast! I cannot read well xD
I find “reading” fingerspelling nearly impossible with no context. I’d have had a much easier time with POLYESTER if I had been chatting to someone about clothing
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l m happy for you and you make fast fingerspelling me and l need to more lrean study , l want you make slow please . 🤟🏼😇💓 and l have dog schauzer 🐾🐾🐾🐾🤗🤗😭😭
I have other fingerspelling videos. Try something slower.
Here is an absolute beginner video:
th-cam.com/video/va1aAXpVr2w/w-d-xo.html
Or see my fingerspelling play list:
th-cam.com/play/PL6akqFwEeSph9F8XdOAEBjloW1sVY1YJw.html
HOLY MOSES....WHY SO FAST
Development of a type of shape and flow recognition.
Wow, yes, it is so fast😲
l happy you but you make fast fingerspelling practice ,l need to more lrean hard of study !? l not happy from old school batter Creek in michgan long ago but l live from Albion michgan then now l live Chicago and l hate Chicago and l ready to lo ve ablion mic hgan 😇🙏🏼🤟🏼🐾l have dog schauzer 🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾🤗🤗😭😭
Well it seems like it will be hard to be fluent in ASL
Plan on 10,000 hour for true fluency.
Conversational fluency can be achieved in about a hundred hours. Go through lessons 1 - 60 and you should be able to hold basic conversations with Deaf people you meet (if we slow down just a bit for you).
Bill Vicars Thank you so much. Your classes are excellent
please wait 5 full seconds before you repeat a word again. it takes at least that long for the brain to recognise letters and then decipher the word. this brain activity can't take place if you are already doing it again, one can't watch and think it thru at the same time; the process starts all over.
Tip: If you would like to practice receptive fingerspelling where you can "think it over" try asl.ms/mobile/
If the rapid fire presentation in this video is too challenging or not something you enjoy -- consider using one of the many other resources out there available online. Or, if you want to use "this" video you can click to pause the video and take as long as you would like to process what you are seeing.
Another approach would be to use the desktop version of TH-cam and adjust the speed to slow it down.
Your notion that it takes "5 full seconds" for the brain to recognize letters and decipher the word is not the case for advanced signers.
Advanced signers tend to recognize and process the shape of the word as a whole rather than individual letters. If we "do" switch to processing it as individual letters it is around one-fifth of a second per letter or faster.
I'm striving to help John to become an advance signer -- part of that includes presenting him types and levels of signing that are "very challenging."
Sure, I realize that if I were to wait a few seconds to let John process the fingerspelling he would have an EASIER time understanding me.
However, that is not my goal here. I'm not trying to make it easy on John.
My goal here is twofold:
1. I am testing him to see well (or not) he can do at handling rapid-fire presentations of fingerspelled words. I'm also testing to see at what point he gives up, starts shaking his head, or gets mad. He is an intern. I may choose to hire him some day or give him responsibility to handle serious projects or interpret for me. I need to know if when presented with native-speed spelling or signing (presented without breaks) -- he will handle it with a good attitude. (Which, I was pleased to discover -- he did a fantastic job of staying pleasant and focused! Very impressive on his part.)
2. My other goal was to help him grow past the point of needing pauses and processing time. Typical signing from native Deaf doesn't include five-second pauses between or after each fingerspelled word. That means I have to push him HARD, make him sweat, and in doing so -- help him to become better able to handle the type of rapid fire spelling he is likely to encounter in the "real world."
For what it is worth, I do plan on making more "receptive fingerspelling practice" video and will make some for various levels of skill and include some videos with slower spelling and longer pauses (for beginners).
Again though I get your point. The fact that I am choosing to not pause was disconcerting and certainly made it hard on John.
That was precisely my goal.
Rewatch the video at .75 and .5 speed. TH-cam lets you do this easily for the words that you're struggling with. That's what I'm doing.
You can go into settings and slow down the video. That helps a lot when you are started out, as I am now.
Bug
Can John marry me please lol
A little fast for beginners
Right. That's why the title includes the word "advanced."
It is also why in the description I mentioned that the target audience is "ASL 5 and up."
Why are you slurring your spelling?! 🤷🏼♂️
The term: "slurring" -- has a negative connotation and is often associated with drunken or impaired speech.
That is not what is happening here.
I'm fingerspelling quickly and that results in many of the letters becoming naturally blended together.
Blended fingerspelling is analogous (similar to / comparable to) cursive writing.
The reason why cursive writing naturally developed is likely because it is considerably faster than block or print writing (by hand using a pen or pencil).
When socially active, Deaf adult skilled signers fingerspell -- our letters tend to naturally blend because we are spelling very fast (often around five letters per second).
Life (in the overall scheme of things) is short.
Those of us who use ASL as our primary means of daily face to face communication spell quickly as a form of efficiency that allows us to share more ideas, thoughts, and concepts in a shorter amount of time and thus communicate more during our lives than we would if were were carefully segmenting each fingerspelled letter into carefully formed shapes.
So the answer to your question is:
I'm fingerspelling quickly (which naturally results in some blending) so that my students will learn to recognize and understand the type of spelling that often appears on the hands of skilled signers in the Deaf community.
@@sign-language Sorry Bill, my deepest apologies.
I was kidding and meant no negative connotation and thank you for your reply and all your efforts to teach.
Christian,
Ha! You got me then dude. Score!
Totally okay on my end -- since now I can take that same reply and turn it into an article at my website! It's all good.
@@sign-language 👍🏼👍🏼
Advanced my ass, he’s making a lot of rookie mistakes