How The Fearful Avoidant Experiences Limerence | Limerence & Unmet Needs

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  • @LittleMissDeeDee
    @LittleMissDeeDee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    I feel this is the toughest thing about being an FA. I’m either unhealthily Obsessed to the point of neglecting myself or Unbothered to the point of neglecting others. It’s been tough in my current relationship with a wonderful secure man who can very much feel when I’m disconnected/deactivated. His patience and love for me has really helped me become more balanced.

    • @DD-ic1bd
      @DD-ic1bd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      This sounds like me.. i gravitate towards this type of man but usually don't have the strong physical chemistry i require.. so i want to be "affectionate friends" (I do not sleep with them!;) so i can enjoy their affirmation and also control the physical intimacy, explains my hot and cold tendencies toward them... ive become more secure so now i always fully disclose how im feeling, giving them the option to opt out of such a limited relationship!
      After reading over this im becoming aware this "affectionate friends" category i can put people in is such an FA style... NO Committment required!! However an FA can still become emotionally attached to these people, which probably confuses the person, push-pull.. 😳😬😉

    • @decemberclouds
      @decemberclouds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Beautifully stated! I was also obsessed to the point of self-neglect or unbothered.

    • @LittleMissDeeDee
      @LittleMissDeeDee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @AliSand I’m sure if that’s what he wanted, he would have left by now. I’m the woman he desires and we are both happy for it to remain that way. Thanks for your unsolicited advice x

    • @LittleMissDeeDee
      @LittleMissDeeDee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@DD-ic1bd oh yes definitely I can understand why you’d desire a situationship (minus sex) more than relationship. I’d say I’m different in that regard as I see that as a waste of my time and energy. I’ve always desired an intimate relationship but poor choices in partners combined with growing up in an unaffectionate home with limited positive affirmations made me insecure over time. According to the attachment style test, I’m 30% FA and 30% Secure (20% avoidant and 20% anxious), so my deactivation isn’t as severe as some others. I’d go as far to say I’m mostly secure but when I’m triggered, I shut down completely. Being transparent about my triggers with my partner and him respecting them has made me more secure.

    • @violetsky__7649
      @violetsky__7649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Where did you meet a secure guy?? I’m FA and feel like I could use this secure patience from a partner.

  • @decemberclouds
    @decemberclouds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Limerence due to someone being present was a huge thing for me back when I was last limerent. The last two people who were limerent for me just... listened. Without arguing, without discouraging me, without telling me that I was wrong or that my feelings or perception were wrong, they just listened. I had to learn to listen to myself and my voice, no matter what other people thought.
    I feel lucky in some ways that the last person I was limerent for just ghosted me after a while. It forced me, in the early part of 2020, to read a bunch of self-help books and watch a lot of self-help videos (that's how i found PDS!) and try to heal as best as I could being in the situation that I was in.

    • @jestrada42710
      @jestrada42710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Wow! I went through the same exact situation! Sending you lots of positive and healing vibes 🙏🏽❤️

  • @Sara-bn3wz
    @Sara-bn3wz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I still find your dedication to your purpose unmatched Thais. Thank you. So. Very. Very. Much.

    • @superbettynow
      @superbettynow ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She is fantastic, isn't she? But I encourage you to also check out Heidi Priebe, who I would say can definitely match her in dedication and insight.

    • @melissaesperanza2919
      @melissaesperanza2919 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@superbettynowHeidi is also an angel!! Love her

  • @mysticalmultiverse
    @mysticalmultiverse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I'm an FA(leaning DA) and my problem is I will obsess over the person 24/7 from a distance to the point where I have a hard time focusing on anything else and sleeping but as soon as that person wants to get into a committed relationship with me, I lose interest. I realize I'd much rather fantasize about the guy than be with him because my once I get to know the guy I start to see all of his flaws and it turns me off. I push people away all the time and prefer to keep everyone at a distance. No one is perfect. I certainly am not and I don't want to let anyone get too close and start seeing all my flaws and I don't want to see their flaws either. I just want to live in a fantasy world but this isn't healthy at all. The guy that I'm in limerence with told me he wants to marry me and kept trying to get me to move in with him but he has a lot of issues and I would rather fantasize about his potential

    • @lukethompson5558
      @lukethompson5558 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Wow that’s messed up 😂

    • @Heyu7her3
      @Heyu7her3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fantasy is easier because people/the real world are trash!

    • @LinA-kj4xy
      @LinA-kj4xy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Us humans 🤣

    • @olive4naito
      @olive4naito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My first ex was like this. It was extremely confusing.

    • @LeeChrissy
      @LeeChrissy ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Wow that last sentence is so honest and powerful and I completely relate!! It's so hard to talk about this stuff with friends because they just don't understand our way of thinking. As much as I love him and as low-key obsessed as I feel (I never show it), he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't with me. I left the first year for not giving me the relationship. The second year he gave me the relationship and I still left. This year there's no talk of it, just us enjoying each other. I like the fantasy too and I think he does as well. We live in different worlds. Me with big goals and he is happy just getting by in life. Part of me wants to go ALL in and the other part of me wants to run in the other direction. I'm working on myself though. I don't like the extreme way of thinking, but I definitely relate.

  • @renwrong8393
    @renwrong8393 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is such an interesting topic because I think there are varying degrees of limerance. Like small doses when someone doesn't text you back, and you create different scenarios in your mind of what you should've said, or create stories around that. It's so interesting bc of technology, access, space, social media and personal relationships.

  • @ashleyb.8217
    @ashleyb.8217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I did not think I’d be called out like this today….

  • @nafisaiddrisu9983
    @nafisaiddrisu9983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    The truth is that as a fearful avoidant who is feeling unworthy, you are likely to like people you put on a pedestal. I can relate to this because I always thought my ex was better than me and has better chances of getting a new partner than I do

  • @leolady8114
    @leolady8114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    No matter the topic, you are my daily " Get your sh$t together" guru gal!!! Lol Thank you again for all the videos and info you always provide to your community!!!

  • @msg3tr1ght
    @msg3tr1ght 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This was very helpful! I've been mindful of this due to past experiences. I don’t put anyone on a pedestal, I usually just stay cautiously optimistic. I do have to get better at showing up for myself tho. I have to get creative with showing up for myself because I’m immunocompromised and still largely isolated due to the various things going around. Although if I can plan dates with others, I can plan them with myself. I just like hanging with ppl because I’m alone a lot and unfortunately don’t have many friends. Doing the best I can though and that’s what matters. I’m also hyper self aware though, so I have to balance with shutting my brain off.

    • @somethinggood9267
      @somethinggood9267 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just wanted to say I relate to this comment so much

  • @csilver9625
    @csilver9625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    My ex girlfriend was an FA. I’m an AP and definitely experience Limerence. Since our break up three months ago I’ve averaged less than four hours of sleep a night because I can’t turn my mind off. The more I learn about fearful avoidant, her responses and actions are cookie-cutter for an FA. But it is still hard for me to understand how she treated me the way she did towards the end of our relaruonship. She literally shut off all feelings and emotions and said she never felt anything for me the entire time we were dating even though we were almost engaged. It still just breaks my heart that she’s going through so many core wounds that she responds in that way

    • @shortingthetrend
      @shortingthetrend 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I had to edit this cus I feel so badly for you. I'm with a person who is FA also... I dunno what I'd do without her. Move on, let her see you move on. Live your life. Let her see that and she will come back. Trust it bro.

    • @DD-ic1bd
      @DD-ic1bd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I'm majority FA, but have been fully aware of for awhile, so more secure traits then some others. im sorry you are going thru this.. for her to say that to you it sounds like she has a deep hurt or fear.. i have no idea the details of your relationship and no one should tell you what has definitely caused this!!!.. it could be that you did or said something that made her believe you betrayed her emotionally in some way, that she couldn't trust you to not hurt her, this could be a real threat she felt or an imagined threat to her... she may or may not have ever expressed these things to you.. "why should I, he should have just known"... or "I told him over and over and he didnt change", FA will then start detaching emotionally because it hurts, until numb, and them are done!!
      Or, it could be she is telling you that she didn't have feelings to stop you from reaching out... for me, once a relationship ends, i want to close that chapter shut, no contact, just both move on with our lives. I will say, this person is not a good match for you regardless. Try and take comfort in that its better this happens before you got engaged or married! FA's fear of commitment and feeling trapped is real, can lead to them fleeing fast!! Look for someone that shows consistency and not hot and cold, push and pull tendencies. Also, make sure you reflect on your words, actions, inactions, in the relationship and learn for the next time. Don't go all in and come on to strong.. look for red flags, and repect yourself! You are worthy! Xoxo

    • @DD-ic1bd
      @DD-ic1bd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@csilver9625 so sorry, just saw where you say she said didnt have chemistry... this is common for FA's.. just happened with me, again!! Met a guy i liked a lot.. he made me feel good in many ways, usually by giving a lot of affirmations!!! I love how makes me feel, and love many things about the person, but don't feel the physical chemistry i know is needed in a committed relationship... FA's will try and force themselves in these relationships at times, cause they "feel" so emotionally good.. BUT you will notice hot and cold with physical intimacy... a lot of FA's are highly passionate and seductive when they have high chemistry.. they won't be hot and cold.. if she told you she didnt have chemistry, believe her and move on! You will always have to worry she will drop you fast if she meets someone that the sparks are high!! That is unsafe for you!! Xoxo

    • @csilver9625
      @csilver9625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@DD-ic1bd thank you for both your replies. The sparks were definitely there for the first couple months (to the point she said she would get too turned on and wanted to slow things down which I totally respected and agreed with).
      Things were absolutely amazing physically, emotionally, spiritually and had great communication until the first time she brought up marriage and living together. Then within a week or two of that she pulled back hard. She then started to warm back up and then after awhile is when she took me into jewelry shops to start looking at rings.
      I agree even though I would have loved to spend the rest of my life with her, if it was always going to be hot and cold then I wouldn’t want to be in a marriage like that at all!
      But you are spot on sparks flying. She defiantly had that at first with me and it was pretty intense but from what she had told me about her past relationships that seems to be pretty common for her. She gets super attached, sparks flying, intensity and passion is extreme, and then boom… turns off and she is completely done without out much indication it’s coming. Then moves on extremly quick to someone else new… rinse and repeat.
      Thank you for your our last sentence. I am focusing on myself snd making sure I don’t lose myslef for another again. I want to build something amazing with someone but I don’t want it to feel so one sideded. Thank you for the care and concern your replies and insight have shown! You are worthy of love and I hope you can find what you need and are looking for too

    • @DD-ic1bd
      @DD-ic1bd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@csilver9625 Im so glad you can see that this is not good for you and you deserve something better! You sound like a gem;).. have confidence in your worth, and maintain your self respect and you will meet someone worthy, and, you will go in better prepared now!.. xoxo

  • @roshalllambert
    @roshalllambert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Its interesting how different attachment styles react differently to limerence!

  • @RozCamille
    @RozCamille 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This happened to me last year. I was even hospitalized. I couldn’t sleep or eat. The relationship was long distance. I almost died 🙁

    • @Borboleta1212
      @Borboleta1212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I’m glad you’re still here!
      I didn’t get quite to that point, but my experience was similar. 😕

    • @queline3530
      @queline3530 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry to hear this, hope you are healing 🤗

    • @gamerz8877
      @gamerz8877 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not alone happened to me...didn't almost die but betrayal hurts big time

    • @Alicia-cq9si
      @Alicia-cq9si 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is my greatest fear. The depressed moments when his car is not in front of his house when he should be home can trigger me into all-night sob sessions and even brief suicidal ideation. The pain is excruciating. For me, I don't even know the man, but have this soulmate fantasy going in my mind. I do feel like I could end up in a hospital if it kept up, but I try some natural things to increase serotonin/dopamine and it usually subsides to a point where i can survive life.

  • @culalamola2
    @culalamola2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for this video! It would be nice if you do some series about creating a secure attachment when you have emotional unavailable parents. I think we have to adjust our expectations knowing that they would not satisfy specific needs, so we can look for this satisfaction somewhere else.

  • @jefferykennedy5562
    @jefferykennedy5562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you I honestly need to look into these coping mechanisms and life changing tools. Thank you for everything you do for us.

  • @PerrySkyePhoenix
    @PerrySkyePhoenix 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow. As an FA, this makes a lot of sense.

  • @IanRoyball128
    @IanRoyball128 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks!

  • @sharonbeers4621
    @sharonbeers4621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is very insightful for me in order to stop believing another can fill me up!

  • @sxyteesa0890
    @sxyteesa0890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dear Thais, you read me to filth every time 😂😂😂😂but I love you for it Thank you 🙏🏾

  • @fatumashariff7795
    @fatumashariff7795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow spot on

  • @georgieeve2026
    @georgieeve2026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Is there a difference between being limerent post-break up, and having an abandonment trauma reaction post breakup?

    • @kerrymillar1267
      @kerrymillar1267 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Post limerant break up is the worst. I pushed both this people away and when they went I became obsessed. It’s so painful, so I feel for you if you’re going through similar.

  • @gabriellevautour23
    @gabriellevautour23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You said the course is linked below but the linked course is anxious attachment style, was it supposed to be FA course?
    Also I just did the needs course and it was MIND BLOWING. I'm learning so much. It's amazing what you are doing with these courses. Much more affordable than therapy too and so much more information. I feel so much more hopeful that I'll be able to be in a stable relationship one day and have a family. Thank you so much!!!

  • @TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks
    @TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    After one year separation from my spouse, I met someone that I’m crazy for. I can’t seem to think straight and often ruminate. Possible limerence. I’m not worried about her meeting someone else. I tested as an FA but recently re tested secure. Trying my best not to violate my boundaries and put her on a pedestal, although she’s a doctor, ugh.

  • @stacypeters2856
    @stacypeters2856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos are so helpful and wonderful! Thank you

  • @lifecoachingtoronto
    @lifecoachingtoronto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So much goes back to being yourself & meeting your own needs :)

  • @nternetrat
    @nternetrat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:59 traits that are REPRESSED IN YOUR PSYCHE. mm.
    6:00 CONNECTING TO TRAITS THAT I'M *REPRESSING*
    7:00 COMMUNICATING TO YOU VERY CLEARLY NEEDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNMET. !!!
    PAY ATTENTION!!
    SO WE OBSESS WITH *THIS PERSON* ("limerant" person) *MEETING* THEM.
    TRYING TO GET NEEDS MET FROM OUTSIDE IN

  • @brianacolefitness8600
    @brianacolefitness8600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yay!!! Been waiting for this one 😍😍

  • @jackdavies5483
    @jackdavies5483 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think limerance is what led to the collasp of the relationship with my ex who I strongly expect is FA. Its sad really as I really loved and appreciated her. She is now in a new relationship and even though I am sad our relationship didn't go on and strengthen I just hope she is happy and feeling loved with her new partner. I just wish she was able to communicate to me how she was truly feeling in the moment. She never ever stated if she needed space or reassurance. If she was pushing away to get me to comfort her or that she needed moments to just process to herself. I tried so hard to be there for her and support her but she kept sabotaging. She would flake on me, not respond, and juat stand me up to the point I had to say I can't have a relationship like this.

  • @charleesummertv6109
    @charleesummertv6109 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are so on the mark

  • @makennapainter3200
    @makennapainter3200 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I needed this vid. Thank you. ❤

  • @Mom_Luvs_Tech
    @Mom_Luvs_Tech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I guess this is where my avoidant side kicks in because I don’t get excited at all. =\

  • @joandiamond4094
    @joandiamond4094 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This explains soooooo much!!!

  • @abby4027
    @abby4027 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this!

  • @Strawberrysoul
    @Strawberrysoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I believe after I dated my boyfriend one year he started to have limerence with other girls.
    He’s an FA. He’s the one I just wrote about below

    • @kerrymillar1267
      @kerrymillar1267 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m having this just now with my FA partner on and off for 7 years. He’s been limerant with at least 2 girls. I understand it but can’t live like this anymore.

  • @missjk00
    @missjk00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How can a fearful avoidant experience limerence and also go into avoidance/deactivation mode?
    My FA did a really good job with avoiding me for 16 days, yet told me he thought about me all of the time.

    • @SWRDFSH3850
      @SWRDFSH3850 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A year late, but for me. It’s wanting something the person provides but not wanting the hastle of their other traits.

  • @Strawberrysoul
    @Strawberrysoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My exe an FA would have limerence and one girl he never went out with. Another girl he dated 2 months. Both times he had such large limerence that he tired to kill himself both times. And he is very smart - he was in college at Harvard at the time!

    • @Strawberrysoul
      @Strawberrysoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Btw he tried to kill himself because the girls rejected him and he didn’t even have a relationship with them. It’s very sad. He no longer try’s to kill himself.

  • @mason9086
    @mason9086 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone have any experience with an FA blaming you for their limerance/self-betrayal?

  • @IanRoyball128
    @IanRoyball128 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    💚

  • @ddeenniizz0
    @ddeenniizz0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why does my partner react silly when i say what i'am unhappy with. I'ts almost as if she simply shift topic and redirect guilt onto me. all i want is her to take more responsibility for her actions and show me that they take my critique serious. They don't have to agree with my critique, but at least showing me that they respect it and take it to their heart would already be something.

    • @Seraphimame
      @Seraphimame 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      RSD

    • @kagomeotilia
      @kagomeotilia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      RSD, I agree. Try starting sentences with: "You know I love you and I want you the best". It helps them getting anchored in a safe place. God bless!

  • @elsagrace3893
    @elsagrace3893 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @ 2:16 you begin slurring “fearful avoidence” and something after that so I can’t understand you. You need to slow down and enunciate.

  • @elsagrace3893
    @elsagrace3893 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah, ou need to slow down and enunciate throughout the whole video.

    • @solutanbrun
      @solutanbrun ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Did you know that you can change the playback speed of a video? If you’re having a hard time keeping up, maybe try to find a workaround that fits you first before you give someone feedback they didn’t ask for. You know, like I’m doing now with you.

  • @samanthabronson59
    @samanthabronson59 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Came to TH-cam for a pick a card reading, but this video was on my feed instead 🫣🫠