Star Convoy was stated in the magazine that the Battlestars story was published in to be 45 meters tall. At 45m, he would be 5m taller than Ultraman, 5m smaller than the Showa Godzilla, and almost 3 times taller than Devatator is in the G1 cartoon. I don't know exactly how big Metroplex or Trypticon are in the G1 cartoon, but I don't think saying they're roughly Kaiju sized would be terribly far off. Probably is close to Tidal Wave's larger scale from the Armada cartoon. He may not exactly be a cityformer, but he isn't as far off as you're saying he is. I think he is gonna be roughly the same size as United Tidal Wave, and probably is gonna include a deluxe scale Hot Rod/Rodimus or maybe they're gonna do something weird and give the cab a smaller robot using the Gen Selects release as justification. They're not gonna reduce the price on Titan Class even if the figures get smaller, they'll just do the Coronation Starscream approach and say the random junk they add in justifies the larger price.
@@frankspick7544 According to the Sunbow scale chart, Omega Supreme is only 18 metres tall, and yet, he's a whole Titan too, so I think Star Convoy does have potential
Also Trypticon is in that same Zone episode, and both Autobots are the same size. If they can make Tidal Wave a Titan they can do it with him Star Convoy. I was really, really hoping Overlord was next though... :(
TBH, if you aren't going to make them gigantic, I just wouldn't use the Titan label at all: "Titan" has certain connotations that you just can't get with "commander/slightly bigger than commander with extras." It just seems a pointless dilution of the term, especially since there are still very big characters which could be justified as titans without being constrained to city-formers.
Omega Prime Haslab wasn’t supposed to start a precedent of selling a bunch of full toys together to fill out a price point… 😅 If TJ is right, it’s gonna be terrible for anyone that isn’t super rich. As it is I’m buying single items on eBay from Hasbro 5-Packs of stuff I don’t want together. If they start selling components together in bigger and more expensive packs, I’m gonna be completely out of the game, and a lot of other people too. I hope it’s more along the lines of making Titans cheaper. Make them a little smaller and the price drops to $150 or something, that’s something I can get behind. 😅
Big bundles like that make sense for characters that are connected, like combiners and super modes, but I hope they just toss random characters together and call it Titan Class.
In the lore, Star Convoy is 45 metres tall, while Omega Supreme was only 18 metres tall, which is wild if that turns out to be the case with this upcoming figure.
To be fair the writing was kinda on the wall. With the success of haslab and titan class we may be moving into the era of chug really embracing the third party appeal
@@chadderbug7587 right. I think hasbro is FINALLY addressing Third party figures. Which is a mixed emotion. On the one hand it is pricing out casual retail buyers, but it is giving collectors a retail variant instead of all the third party company versions
Why is everyone complaining? The REAL price gouge would be if they did the typical “Want accessories? Buy each and every single one seperately” that other companies do.
I personally hope we get a Titan Rail Racer, as three leader class figures that combine into a big modern rail racer. I think he could and should be a Titan for these reasons… 1: he was massive in the show compared to the other Autobots, even taller then Optimus. 2: individual releases of Railspike, Rapid Run and Midnight Express wouldn’t sell well. So basically a Titan class 3 pack would probably be more viable. 3: he’d go well with the new Sideburn, Tow Line, the upcoming Omega Prime and the upcoming Sky Byte. 4: the original rail racer, while not bad, is pretty dated, and could use an update. Maybe if they go for the 3 leader sized figures route like I’m suggesting, the remaining budget could be allocated to making the engineering and posability for the 3 figures and their combined form really good and high quality, and maybe some extra paint.
Cybertron Optimus + Wing Saber + Leobreaker would be absolutely perfect for a Titan box set. That's a Commander, Leader, and Deluxe respectively. And now you have additional budget to have fewer compromises with Wing Saber and Leobreaker. I previously thought those three would need to be a Haslab in order to be done correctly. However, I don't think Armada Optimus + Jetfire + Overload would have worked. Jetfire needs to be more than Leader class, and Overload is probably around Leader class (definitely more than a Voyager). There's probably a way for just Optimus and Jetfire to work as a Titan box set. Doesn't matter now anyway since we already have Armada Prime. Maybe you still do Armada Jetfire as Commander? + his mini-con + Prime's mini-con + a backpack to fill the hole in Prime's torso? I think you can get that to make sense. But like you said, they'd need to start doing multiple Commander's a year since combiners are eating those up now. Overall, I do very much like the idea of doing multi-packs at the higher class tiers for combiners, especially if that allows for more budget to get better figures than we would if they were released individually. Just look at Magmatron. I personally don't care for him, but everyone that gets it likes him and he's well done.
Yeah. Overload is a bit easier. His transformation wasn't that complex, and he doesn't need to do much other than be a backpack with the guns. Obviously keep the minicon forming the head and chest. But Jetfire needs to be both big, and to be articulated when he's pants, and that would really bring it up.
About commander slots, we likely will start getting two commanders a year soon, with the 86 line coming to an end, Hasbro will want to keep that double commander money coming, and all they would have to do is change the box art on that second commander they've already been releasing
The second commander slot belongs to Studio Series, it just happens that the two made so far have been 86 characters. There's plenty of characters from the other movies (or games) they can make.
@@TransformerMF The AOE Dinobots, at least Scorn and Grimlock. I know they don't do redos but they deserve it. The driller, from DOTM (yes it's a long shot). Infernocus, like you said. From Gamerverse they could do a Combaticon set, or small versions of Omega Supreme and Trypticon since we're not likely to ever get a titan class in Studio Series. I could probably come up with more if I went back and looked at the movies/games again.
Here's a thought. They could also since he's smaller use the freed up budget to put a micromaster or otherwise small scaled Rodimus in with Star Convoy.
I think they'll lean into the base mode to justify the titan price point. Commander class robot + a lot of trailer junk that forms the base = titan class.
Combiner torsos by and large do not need to be commanders. Most of them can be leaders. I will die on this hill. Menasor should be the exception, not the rule.
Sounds like Hasbro will be shooting themselves in the foot with this reclassification/renaming? their toys. A smaller toy but keeping the higher price point will drive away collectors and general customers. Just look at what happened to the Coronation Starscream. They ended up shelf-warming and eventually ended up at the discount stores at less than half the price. If Hasbro is going to keep the same price points, then they need to up their game to justify those prices. Have their products have less QC issues, have them have more paint apps, more deco, etc. Because a lot of people are going to say to themselves, "I spent HOW much for something that is just standing there on my selves just gathering dust?"
I am hoping for Commander size on Star Convoy, with them giving it an actually good motor that can pull the future Grandus that gets released whenever, and/or a removable cab that can transform like the Generations Selects Leader class Star Convoy. Potentially also having it where Star Convoy, Grandus, and Sky Garry can combine in robot mode, as some fan pictures have done. I also have expectations for a Micromaster Rodimus... or atleast, an open area left with the intention of storing one. I would also very much like for them to do a Leader sized Commander class Super Megatron.
Personally I’ve always wanted characters like Dai Atlas, Sky Garry, Sonic Bomber, Grandus & Roadfire to be Commander Class figures just so I could have the shelf space for them all. Now I’m just concerned they’ll release Star Convoy by himself and never revisit Sky Garry or Grandus.
He's very much a titan if you take the Micromaster Hot Rod he comes with and ignore the fact that he's a Micromaster. Like, regular sized Hot Rod standing on that base makes it look a lot bigger
Happy to get a version of star convoy. My biggest concern is hasbro will attempt to sale a smaller toy at 200 price mark with out any extras, it probably will not have tiny rodimus if they follow their current trend.
Well, if there was a better place to put the honorary mentions I cut from the last list: - Violengiguar: Too obscure, and I can never be sure of the scale, but I'm pretty sure he's above a regular Commander (plus there's the 3 rotating heads that have to split for each insect mode) - Landcross: not a lot of price classes that could handle a combiner made of combiners - Metal Hunter: Too small, but big enought for maybe the Core Class BW characters - Prototype Unicron & Grand Galvatron: I'm lumping them together because I could see one being the (p)retool of the other; it's the same body with different heads and limbs - Armada Dead End: I know he's a Mini-Con, but hear me out: he's UNICRON's Mini-Con, and he turns into a MOON. If any Mini-Con deserves to be smol-Titan, it should be him - G1 Cyclonus: again, I know, but remember, there's one feat he's famous for in the movie we never got in any toy; we never got one big enough for Galvatron to ride in, not even a Core Class one
I personally wish we could get Voyager sized Titan characters a la Games Workshop Epic Scale. They could then be redecoed as normal scale guys like Gigastorm or Peritus Maximus or IDW and Marvel Scorponok and Fort Max or Double Punch or Omega SPREEM, in addition to Demon General retools or Core scaled versions of Micromaster Combiners.
I really, REALLY hope that Star Convoy is sold in a 3-pack with Grandus and Sky Garry, since this will allow fans/collectors to get modern figures of the G1 Battle Stars.
if the Cybertron Optimus 3-pack does come to be, then I hope they figure out how to combine both Leobreaker and Wingsaber onto Optimus at the same time
I feel like energon optimus/wing saber would end up being a haslab rather than retail given overall public opinion on energon. They'd need to do a titan energon omega supreme to go with prime too which would take up another slot, seeing as we don't even have armada jetfire or overload yet all of this seems like wishful thinking though. Really hope hasbro doesn't shift titan class all the way to this kind of stuff without doing the literal titans in the franchise they have yet to get to (I am coping that Croaton will get a titan class figure)
Also they could just upscale Star Convoy. Make the cab still be regular Optimus Prime but make that be a voyager class sized toy, then have the Star Convoy mode be Commander Class size but due to extra part count, engineering, and what not the toy would be titan price.
LOL (Thinking of you there, HasLab Omega Convoy!) 😆 🤣 😂 😹 That's a great shot of the original G1 Rescue Patrol Micromasters there, TJ! (Still have 'em all in great condition.) Did you know there are noticeable differences between the OGs and their newer Takara Kabaya issue versions? Yup, I could spot the variance even without using my trustee magnifying glass! (And the Kabaya ones transform far more smoothly too!) HasTakTom wants to (finally) sell us consumers the age-old notion that 'Great things come in small packages'. 😂🎉 It is all about associating the product with the 'idea of greatness' and then putting an equivalent price tag on it. 😊 Dreamers continue to live in the 'virtual' after all... 😅
My guess is this titan might have more gimmicks than the other titans and maybe he’ll come with grandus. It could be a Hasbro attempt to justify the cost. At the end of the day he’s just an over sized semi truck with a sub par base mode. But I’ll take all the Japanese releases I can get my hands on
what if hasbro just make a new class beetween titan class and commander class for all this characters that are above commander but not enough to be a titan or cant just be a traditional titan for x or Y reason , idk maybe something called "supreme class" or ''military class" or any other name that implies is greater than commander , also i think that combiners shoundt be categorized as tradional titans and just be their own separate class like in the combiner wars line so newer folks doesnt get confused , personally i think overloard could perfectly be a leader or a voyager considering he is just basically a walking backpack for optimus , and for armada jetfire i think a leader class coul work since he should be as tall as the trailer legs so a commander class could be a little too much unless it comes with overlord and a core class sparkplug but even that i think a commander is just to big for him you could argue that it would be because of the bufget but lets be honest the classes in the figures had always be more of a size thing than the budget but since siege we have really small figures that shoundt be package as a leader , space shuttle , astrotrain , sandstorm , earthrise optimus or even siege ultra magnus feel to small to be a leader if we compare them to the rotf , or the titans return line if we wanted to make a comparasion with a newer line . (also i wanna apologize for any grammathical error in my comment , because english is not my mother language ) but leaving that aside , thanks for the video , keep the good work buddy , have a nice day :)
Based on this trend, this could mean that _Stormbringer_ Thunderwing may end up in this new and revised Titan slot considering how insanely gigantic he was compared to everyone else and the fact that he's got an Ultra Mode from his jet kibble.
I think hasbro just needs to get the last few Titans that we're missing out of the way and then drop the class to have 2-3 commanders a year, then they can just re-release the titans that exist for a few years before kicking titan class back into production. I've never cared for titans much anyways so I'd be estatic if we got more commanders instead of titans.
I just feel this sets a bad precedent. "OH, Springer has 10 more parts now, well make some extra accessories and charge him $20 more:"Oh Star Optimus is slightly too complex for Commander" just add some extra accessories and make him TITAN" I remember everyone complaining about SS 2007 Jazz being too small, but now we have SS 86 Bumblebee who is 100% not worth the $25 at all. $15 maybe, but not $25.
Commander armada and 86 Optimus are both voyager ish sized figures with a trailer that does something now that scales to titan class will be interesting. It’s odd he’s a titan as besides a giant Optimus or a large multipack what could you do besides that justifies the titan price? The next titan is lined up to be an autobot and star convoy will be interesting to see if it is him
A modern remake of Energon Optimus Prime, Wingsaber and Omaga Supreme at commander, leader & Titan would all have to be released in one year. Don't think they will but it would be nice. Unless Prime and Wingsaber are released in a titan 2 pack, then its 2 years we get Energon Titan figures, because Omega will be a titan on his own.
People still think Class refers to the size instead of a price point. I'm not surprised by the news and knew this was coming to the Titan Class like it has to the other Class's
To whoever did the Starcream shout out today... I have a funny voice recording for you I did a while ago... never actually uploaded it to TH-cam cause I need a funny video to go with it. I disagree that Wing Saber would die a death at retail. And I don't think it would sell better in a box set than being sold individually. The whole appeal of Energon Wing Saber is the ability to combine with Optimus Prime and he's going to sell just for that reason. The real issue is that trying to sell those figures together in a box set is going to be a lot of money up front and a lot of people can't afford that anymore. If you space out the releases so they're at least a month apart that is a lot easier to manage 2 releases at a lower price than 1 release an absurdly high price. Technically it's the same amount either way but spacing it out is easier to manage than doing it all at once. The only combiner set I could see this working with is the Battle Stars because they don't really have a combined robot mode. Their combined mode doesn't have the same appeal. And Grandus I think would die a death if released individually. I'm almost anticipating that Titan Star Convoy isn't just Optimus Prime by himself but is actually including Grandus and Sky Garry with him. The three of them together basically are a city. Star Convoy could sell as a commander on his own. Sky Garry could be a voyager or a leader on his own MAYBE. But Grandus, big chonky boy over there just does not look good in any of his modes so literally I think they only way they can sell him is to make all three a Titan class release.
I disagree with your view on scale for Star Convoy. If you go back and look at how the scales are played out what you will find is that starting with headmasters the transformers gradually got bigger and bigger. Micromasters weren't actually tiny robots. By the time they came about they were depicted as full size vehicles and thus full size Autobots. They were roughly the same size as the Datsun brothers or possibly as big as Ironhide.... eh that may be a stretch. But looking at Ginrai his "base mode" was the Autobot headquarters. Albeit a mobile battle station. In Victory the Decepticons used Skystalker and the Autobots had the Countdown base with star saber able to walk around inside. So knowing he's huge, those micromasters per sey are regular bot size and the bases massive. Dai Atlas was depicted as being a bit bigger still. And the Battlestars are all even larger. Thus Star Convoy and Grandus must 100% be at the titan level. Let's not forget Trypticon and Black Zarak (both titans) were part of the Destron Generals and Dai Atlas was close to their size. So Star Convoy would be larger. Grandus should be bigger still officially.
I for one don't want to see more Menasor-style combiners with the Commander center having the entire frame and the rest of the characters just being clipped onto it. I liked the finished look of it, but I wasn't fond of the design choice. The photo you used made me remember how happy gigantic Titan-sized Devastator made me, though.
At least in Zone they made repainted Metroplex to create Metrotitan for Decepticon that year. In 1991 Return of Convoy, Japan had no toy Decepticons to play against the Battlestar Autobots which was a bummer. Heck, I would have taken a repainted Quicskswitch as a Decepticon.
It took us until the retool of TR Galvatron to get a Super/Ultra Megatron. Actually that might be another potential future Titan. Keep him around Star Convoy in size, and have the budget to do the ability to have both the Super and Ultra Megatron modes. Or go crazy and all the ones the Japanese designers kept adding.
What I’m expecting out of Titan Star Convoy: -16 inches tall (so he’s bigger than a Commander but smaller than past Titans) -base mode compatibility w/ Earthrise and onward ramps and bases (I just want Ironworks and Airwave to matter again; might happen because Warden’s back on board) -good articulation (he better be on par with Legacy Megalo Convoy and Evolution Nemesis) -Micromaster Hot Rod (surely there’s enough budget in there for him with SC being smaller than normal)
Bro now voyagers are deluxes with extra, leaders are voyagers with extra, commanders were leaders with extra, now are titans gonna be commanders with extras? They better include all of the other micro masters that weren’t made so we can have the full 4 members teams
I never realized how many cues Animated Optimus took from Star Convoy. If it weren't for this announcement, they probably could've used the Animated Voyager for the basis of a Leader or Commander.
If Age of the Primes is doing the Aerialbots, Protectobots, and Combaticons, then the next trilogy would theoretically be Technobots, Terrorcons and ? Seacons? Predacons? Trainbots?
If you want a Titan Class Transformers figure do Energon Omega Supreme that will be a good Titan Class figure plus if Hasbro releases a new Energon Optimus Prime that can combine with Omega Supreme it will be cool also a new Wing Saber will be good too
The problem here is you're using toy scale instead of fiction scale. If that was what decided scale for new toys than Omega Supreme, and Tidalwave would've been commander class
@@HolyCow0273 plus it reminds me of how they said they didn’t wanna do rid2001 prime and ultra Magnus as commanders over 2 years. So throw 2 commanders in one box
@mattr75 They're going to have to come up with a different name first, because Hasbro is apparently convinced Westerners won't buy a toy named Convoy and "Big Prime" would be a joke.
@@jameszetterman4487 The name Slammoth has been used by some sources for him. I think you could do both of them in Leader, though BW II Galvatron might be better off in Commander.
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"It gets convoluted, Japanese fiction."
Don't you mean.... Convoy-luted?
@@JZBelexes now we're truckin!!!
Star Convoy was stated in the magazine that the Battlestars story was published in to be 45 meters tall. At 45m, he would be 5m taller than Ultraman, 5m smaller than the Showa Godzilla, and almost 3 times taller than Devatator is in the G1 cartoon. I don't know exactly how big Metroplex or Trypticon are in the G1 cartoon, but I don't think saying they're roughly Kaiju sized would be terribly far off. Probably is close to Tidal Wave's larger scale from the Armada cartoon. He may not exactly be a cityformer, but he isn't as far off as you're saying he is.
I think he is gonna be roughly the same size as United Tidal Wave, and probably is gonna include a deluxe scale Hot Rod/Rodimus or maybe they're gonna do something weird and give the cab a smaller robot using the Gen Selects release as justification. They're not gonna reduce the price on Titan Class even if the figures get smaller, they'll just do the Coronation Starscream approach and say the random junk they add in justifies the larger price.
by checking some sources put metroplex in g1 at least over 200 meters. so ya no he is very small compare to say a city former.
@@frankspick7544 According to the Sunbow scale chart, Omega Supreme is only 18 metres tall, and yet, he's a whole Titan too, so I think Star Convoy does have potential
Also Trypticon is in that same Zone episode, and both Autobots are the same size. If they can make Tidal Wave a Titan they can do it with him Star Convoy. I was really, really hoping Overlord was next though... :(
@@Megageoe hi dude how are you
@@gilbertramos6546 Good. How about yourself?
TBH, if you aren't going to make them gigantic, I just wouldn't use the Titan label at all: "Titan" has certain connotations that you just can't get with "commander/slightly bigger than commander with extras." It just seems a pointless dilution of the term, especially since there are still very big characters which could be justified as titans without being constrained to city-formers.
Omega Prime Haslab wasn’t supposed to start a precedent of selling a bunch of full toys together to fill out a price point… 😅 If TJ is right, it’s gonna be terrible for anyone that isn’t super rich. As it is I’m buying single items on eBay from Hasbro 5-Packs of stuff I don’t want together. If they start selling components together in bigger and more expensive packs, I’m gonna be completely out of the game, and a lot of other people too. I hope it’s more along the lines of making Titans cheaper. Make them a little smaller and the price drops to $150 or something, that’s something I can get behind. 😅
Big bundles like that make sense for characters that are connected, like combiners and super modes, but I hope they just toss random characters together and call it Titan Class.
@@ShadowEclipeximo they did it with the Star seekers thundertron 3pack, testing what counts as a leader
@@Ashuri_Vodka My memory might be bad, but wasn't that a couple years ago?
(Or maybe I am confusing it for another time they did a Seekers multipack)
@@ShadowEclipex no it's a new release
@@Nemesis_Slime Ok. Seeker packs is something they like to do every so often so I keep getting them mixed up.
SO two hundred dollars for commander class size etitan classes? They are pricing out their customers.
In the lore, Star Convoy is 45 metres tall, while Omega Supreme was only 18 metres tall, which is wild if that turns out to be the case with this upcoming figure.
To be fair the writing was kinda on the wall. With the success of haslab and titan class we may be moving into the era of chug really embracing the third party appeal
@@jackblackrosedragon9325 True. Omega Prime is MASSIVE, kinda more suited for an MP scale figure.
@@chadderbug7587 right. I think hasbro is FINALLY addressing Third party figures. Which is a mixed emotion. On the one hand it is pricing out casual retail buyers, but it is giving collectors a retail variant instead of all the third party company versions
Already were.
Why is everyone complaining? The REAL price gouge would be if they did the typical “Want accessories? Buy each and every single one seperately” that other companies do.
I personally hope we get a Titan Rail Racer, as three leader class figures that combine into a big modern rail racer. I think he could and should be a Titan for these reasons…
1: he was massive in the show compared to the other Autobots, even taller then Optimus.
2: individual releases of Railspike, Rapid Run and Midnight Express wouldn’t sell well. So basically a Titan class 3 pack would probably be more viable.
3: he’d go well with the new Sideburn, Tow Line, the upcoming Omega Prime and the upcoming Sky Byte.
4: the original rail racer, while not bad, is pretty dated, and could use an update.
Maybe if they go for the 3 leader sized figures route like I’m suggesting, the remaining budget could be allocated to making the engineering and posability for the 3 figures and their combined form really good and high quality, and maybe some extra paint.
Cybertron Optimus + Wing Saber + Leobreaker would be absolutely perfect for a Titan box set. That's a Commander, Leader, and Deluxe respectively. And now you have additional budget to have fewer compromises with Wing Saber and Leobreaker. I previously thought those three would need to be a Haslab in order to be done correctly.
However, I don't think Armada Optimus + Jetfire + Overload would have worked. Jetfire needs to be more than Leader class, and Overload is probably around Leader class (definitely more than a Voyager). There's probably a way for just Optimus and Jetfire to work as a Titan box set. Doesn't matter now anyway since we already have Armada Prime. Maybe you still do Armada Jetfire as Commander? + his mini-con + Prime's mini-con + a backpack to fill the hole in Prime's torso? I think you can get that to make sense. But like you said, they'd need to start doing multiple Commander's a year since combiners are eating those up now.
Overall, I do very much like the idea of doing multi-packs at the higher class tiers for combiners, especially if that allows for more budget to get better figures than we would if they were released individually. Just look at Magmatron. I personally don't care for him, but everyone that gets it likes him and he's well done.
Yeah. Overload is a bit easier. His transformation wasn't that complex, and he doesn't need to do much other than be a backpack with the guns. Obviously keep the minicon forming the head and chest.
But Jetfire needs to be both big, and to be articulated when he's pants, and that would really bring it up.
Give us a 200 dollar grossly over scaled titan class sunstreaker
@@OptimalMayo This comment reads like something Sunstreaker would write! LOL
Doing a video explaining G1 Convoy Japanese continuity sounds like a great idea to me.
I would kinda love if Titan Class also effectively becomes Box sets for combiners/super modes alone side actual Titans.
About commander slots, we likely will start getting two commanders a year soon, with the 86 line coming to an end, Hasbro will want to keep that double commander money coming, and all they would have to do is change the box art on that second commander they've already been releasing
Though I know a lot of people that will be disappointed we never got a live action Titan character like Stratosphere.
The second commander slot belongs to Studio Series, it just happens that the two made so far have been 86 characters. There's plenty of characters from the other movies (or games) they can make.
@@KingKuuga outside of stratosphere or that last knight combiner guy I cant think of much for ss to use the commander class for
@@TransformerMF The AOE Dinobots, at least Scorn and Grimlock. I know they don't do redos but they deserve it. The driller, from DOTM (yes it's a long shot). Infernocus, like you said. From Gamerverse they could do a Combaticon set, or small versions of Omega Supreme and Trypticon since we're not likely to ever get a titan class in Studio Series. I could probably come up with more if I went back and looked at the movies/games again.
@@KingKuuga They've expressly stated interest in doing more accurately scaled AOE Dinobots, so yeah.
Here's a thought. They could also since he's smaller use the freed up budget to put a micromaster or otherwise small scaled Rodimus in with Star Convoy.
I was thinking maybe they'll throw that cancelled Velocitron Hot Rod in there.
Titan class Cybertron Starscream and Titan class Cybertron landmine
I'm thinking its going to be a premold of a new Metorplex if they do end up giving him a basemode
0:20 now, I want to draw Starscream as the Pillsburry mascot
How do we get Big Convoy, or as Hasbro will name him, Mammoth Convoy?
I would LOVE a Titan Class Big Powered set!!
I think they'll lean into the base mode to justify the titan price point. Commander class robot + a lot of trailer junk that forms the base = titan class.
They also might modify the base mode to improve it. Tidal Wave didn't have a base mode, and they gave him one.
Combiner torsos by and large do not need to be commanders. Most of them can be leaders. I will die on this hill. Menasor should be the exception, not the rule.
I would have preferred even Motormaster be a Leader. The whole frame/ false combiner system doesn't sit right with me.
Yes we need a titan Animated Omega Supreme!!! I always wanted that as a toy when I watched that episode!
8:25 I feel like this could mean that Star convoy isn’t going to be very big but come with additional figures with this set, sky Garry and grandus
Star Convoy with Micromaster Hot Rod was the last G1 figure ever released in that line.
Star convoy does change everything! hell yeah!🎉🎉🎉
Sounds like Hasbro will be shooting themselves in the foot with this reclassification/renaming? their toys. A smaller toy but keeping the higher price point will drive away collectors and general customers. Just look at what happened to the Coronation Starscream. They ended up shelf-warming and eventually ended up at the discount stores at less than half the price. If Hasbro is going to keep the same price points, then they need to up their game to justify those prices. Have their products have less QC issues, have them have more paint apps, more deco, etc. Because a lot of people are going to say to themselves, "I spent HOW much for something that is just standing there on my selves just gathering dust?"
I am hoping for Commander size on Star Convoy, with them giving it an actually good motor that can pull the future Grandus that gets released whenever, and/or a removable cab that can transform like the Generations Selects Leader class Star Convoy. Potentially also having it where Star Convoy, Grandus, and Sky Garry can combine in robot mode, as some fan pictures have done. I also have expectations for a Micromaster Rodimus... or atleast, an open area left with the intention of storing one.
I would also very much like for them to do a Leader sized Commander class Super Megatron.
We definitely need a new improved version of Cybertron 2005 Optimus Prime .
19:07 OMG THUNDER BLAST HAS A SHOT???
Broadside FOC or G1 Titan would be cool also G1 Metroplex an FOC metroplex reissue and a WFC Omega Supreme and Trypticon lots of Titans Iaconus Etc.
Personally I’ve always wanted characters like Dai Atlas, Sky Garry, Sonic Bomber, Grandus & Roadfire to be Commander Class figures just so I could have the shelf space for them all.
Now I’m just concerned they’ll release Star Convoy by himself and never revisit Sky Garry or Grandus.
We still have plenty of city bots for Titan class.
Chela, Navitas, Croaton, Iaconus, Necrotitan, Caminus. Just to name a few
6:47 i tell myself that everytime i see what Star Saber and Deathsaurus go for now
Titan Star Convoy is gonna be the equivalent of what Rodimus Prime has been for the commander class
He's very much a titan if you take the Micromaster Hot Rod he comes with and ignore the fact that he's a Micromaster.
Like, regular sized Hot Rod standing on that base makes it look a lot bigger
Happy to get a version of star convoy. My biggest concern is hasbro will attempt to sale a smaller toy at 200 price mark with out any extras, it probably will not have tiny rodimus if they follow their current trend.
Well, if there was a better place to put the honorary mentions I cut from the last list:
- Violengiguar: Too obscure, and I can never be sure of the scale, but I'm pretty sure he's above a regular Commander (plus there's the 3 rotating heads that have to split for each insect mode)
- Landcross: not a lot of price classes that could handle a combiner made of combiners
- Metal Hunter: Too small, but big enought for maybe the Core Class BW characters
- Prototype Unicron & Grand Galvatron: I'm lumping them together because I could see one being the (p)retool of the other; it's the same body with different heads and limbs
- Armada Dead End: I know he's a Mini-Con, but hear me out: he's UNICRON's Mini-Con, and he turns into a MOON. If any Mini-Con deserves to be smol-Titan, it should be him
- G1 Cyclonus: again, I know, but remember, there's one feat he's famous for in the movie we never got in any toy; we never got one big enough for Galvatron to ride in, not even a Core Class one
I like the idea of Dai Atlas and his other two partners. I'd love an amazing God Ginrai and Overlord that are as good as Deathsaurus and Victory Saber
I personally wish we could get Voyager sized Titan characters a la Games Workshop Epic Scale. They could then be redecoed as normal scale guys like Gigastorm or Peritus Maximus or IDW and Marvel Scorponok and Fort Max or Double Punch or Omega SPREEM, in addition to Demon General retools or Core scaled versions of Micromaster Combiners.
So I was right to avoid the Omega Prime Haslab like the plague. Now that Hasbro has been given an inch, they're proceeding to take a mile.
The first Optimus Prime has a Base Mode, with the Trailer, and Sta Convoy also has a Base Mode. Neither should be considered Cityformers!
I really, REALLY hope that Star Convoy is sold in a 3-pack with Grandus and Sky Garry, since this will allow fans/collectors to get modern figures of the G1 Battle Stars.
Star Convoy fits perfectly in Titan class, his 45 meters tall.
New Combaticon molds? I require a new Ruination...
I want a new space warp and overload so badly, ultra magnus would also be nice
OH MY GOD
LIOKAISER MAY FINALLY HAVE A PLACE TO SHINE!!!!!
if the Cybertron Optimus 3-pack does come to be, then I hope they figure out how to combine both Leobreaker and Wingsaber onto Optimus at the same time
I feel like energon optimus/wing saber would end up being a haslab rather than retail given overall public opinion on energon. They'd need to do a titan energon omega supreme to go with prime too which would take up another slot, seeing as we don't even have armada jetfire or overload yet all of this seems like wishful thinking though. Really hope hasbro doesn't shift titan class all the way to this kind of stuff without doing the literal titans in the franchise they have yet to get to (I am coping that Croaton will get a titan class figure)
Also they could just upscale Star Convoy. Make the cab still be regular Optimus Prime but make that be a voyager class sized toy, then have the Star Convoy mode be Commander Class size but due to extra part count, engineering, and what not the toy would be titan price.
LOL (Thinking of you there, HasLab Omega Convoy!)
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That's a great shot of the original G1 Rescue Patrol Micromasters there, TJ! (Still have 'em all in great condition.) Did you know there are noticeable differences between the OGs and their newer Takara Kabaya issue versions? Yup, I could spot the variance even without using my trustee magnifying glass! (And the Kabaya ones transform far more smoothly too!)
HasTakTom wants to (finally) sell us consumers the age-old notion that 'Great things come in small packages'. 😂🎉
It is all about associating the product with the 'idea of greatness' and then putting an equivalent price tag on it. 😊
Dreamers continue to live in the 'virtual' after all... 😅
My guess is this titan might have more gimmicks than the other titans and maybe he’ll come with grandus. It could be a Hasbro attempt to justify the cost. At the end of the day he’s just an over sized semi truck with a sub par base mode. But I’ll take all the Japanese releases I can get my hands on
what if hasbro just make a new class beetween titan class and commander class for all this characters that are above commander but not enough to be a titan or cant just be a traditional titan for x or Y reason , idk maybe something called "supreme class" or ''military class" or any other name that implies is greater than commander , also i think that combiners shoundt be categorized as tradional titans and just be their own separate class like in the combiner wars line so newer folks doesnt get confused , personally i think overloard could perfectly be a leader or a voyager considering he is just basically a walking backpack for optimus , and for armada jetfire i think a leader class coul work since he should be as tall as the trailer legs so a commander class could be a little too much unless it comes with overlord and a core class sparkplug but even that i think a commander is just to big for him you could argue that it would be because of the bufget but lets be honest the classes in the figures had always be more of a size thing than the budget but since siege we have really small figures that shoundt be package as a leader , space shuttle , astrotrain , sandstorm , earthrise optimus or even siege ultra magnus feel to small to be a leader if we compare them to the rotf , or the titans return line if we wanted to make a comparasion with a newer line . (also i wanna apologize for any grammathical error in my comment , because english is not my mother language ) but leaving that aside , thanks for the video , keep the good work buddy , have a nice day :)
Based on this trend, this could mean that _Stormbringer_ Thunderwing may end up in this new and revised Titan slot considering how insanely gigantic he was compared to everyone else and the fact that he's got an Ultra Mode from his jet kibble.
I think hasbro just needs to get the last few Titans that we're missing out of the way and then drop the class to have 2-3 commanders a year, then they can just re-release the titans that exist for a few years before kicking titan class back into production. I've never cared for titans much anyways so I'd be estatic if we got more commanders instead of titans.
I just feel this sets a bad precedent. "OH, Springer has 10 more parts now, well make some extra accessories and charge him $20 more:"Oh Star Optimus is slightly too complex for Commander" just add some extra accessories and make him TITAN"
I remember everyone complaining about SS 2007 Jazz being too small, but now we have SS 86 Bumblebee who is 100% not worth the $25 at all. $15 maybe, but not $25.
Animated Omega Supreme is gonna be the new Unicron, We are gonna wait 20 years between it appearing on screen and getting its first figure
Sounds like they are looking at Titan class as more of the price point than a scale thing.
I was hoping RID Megatron would come next as a commander
TJ Star Convoy is like three times taller than Devastator. I think he will be fine as a titan
Some one on twitter mentioned how This titan OP makes RID prime make less sense as a haslab.
I get the title of ‘Titan’, maybe it’ll include electronics but who knows
Commander armada and 86 Optimus are both voyager ish sized figures with a trailer that does something now that scales to titan class will be interesting. It’s odd he’s a titan as besides a giant Optimus or a large multipack what could you do besides that justifies the titan price?
The next titan is lined up to be an autobot and star convoy will be interesting to see if it is him
The SS86 Optimus alone is leader class without his trailer...you must not have seen the pics of him standing next to Kingdom Rodimus
Hasbro should make a life-sized titan class Moon (Beast Wars II)
Maybe with this change I won't have to build a custom titan Spanner.
He's a base, not a city. Still nice to get a version of him.
A modern remake of Energon Optimus Prime, Wingsaber and Omaga Supreme at commander, leader & Titan would all have to be released in one year. Don't think they will but it would be nice. Unless Prime and Wingsaber are released in a titan 2 pack, then its 2 years we get Energon Titan figures, because Omega will be a titan on his own.
People still think Class refers to the size instead of a price point. I'm not surprised by the news and knew this was coming to the Titan Class like it has to the other Class's
Star Convoy + Grandus
5:31 it would be like he fitting in with the small micro Master hot wheels. Those tiny little toys. That would fit with the big giant Titan. ?
To whoever did the Starcream shout out today... I have a funny voice recording for you I did a while ago... never actually uploaded it to TH-cam cause I need a funny video to go with it.
I disagree that Wing Saber would die a death at retail. And I don't think it would sell better in a box set than being sold individually. The whole appeal of Energon Wing Saber is the ability to combine with Optimus Prime and he's going to sell just for that reason. The real issue is that trying to sell those figures together in a box set is going to be a lot of money up front and a lot of people can't afford that anymore. If you space out the releases so they're at least a month apart that is a lot easier to manage 2 releases at a lower price than 1 release an absurdly high price. Technically it's the same amount either way but spacing it out is easier to manage than doing it all at once.
The only combiner set I could see this working with is the Battle Stars because they don't really have a combined robot mode. Their combined mode doesn't have the same appeal. And Grandus I think would die a death if released individually. I'm almost anticipating that Titan Star Convoy isn't just Optimus Prime by himself but is actually including Grandus and Sky Garry with him. The three of them together basically are a city. Star Convoy could sell as a commander on his own. Sky Garry could be a voyager or a leader on his own MAYBE. But Grandus, big chonky boy over there just does not look good in any of his modes so literally I think they only way they can sell him is to make all three a Titan class release.
Maybe Star’s Cream is a type of Anti-Scraplet Ointment?
At that point we should go from
Deluxe/Voyager/Leader/Commander/SUPREME/titan
I disagree with your view on scale for Star Convoy.
If you go back and look at how the scales are played out what you will find is that starting with headmasters the transformers gradually got bigger and bigger. Micromasters weren't actually tiny robots. By the time they came about they were depicted as full size vehicles and thus full size Autobots. They were roughly the same size as the Datsun brothers or possibly as big as Ironhide.... eh that may be a stretch.
But looking at Ginrai his "base mode" was the Autobot headquarters. Albeit a mobile battle station. In Victory the Decepticons used Skystalker and the Autobots had the Countdown base with star saber able to walk around inside. So knowing he's huge, those micromasters per sey are regular bot size and the bases massive.
Dai Atlas was depicted as being a bit bigger still. And the Battlestars are all even larger. Thus Star Convoy and Grandus must 100% be at the titan level. Let's not forget Trypticon and Black Zarak (both titans) were part of the Destron Generals and Dai Atlas was close to their size. So Star Convoy would be larger. Grandus should be bigger still officially.
I for one don't want to see more Menasor-style combiners with the Commander center having the entire frame and the rest of the characters just being clipped onto it. I liked the finished look of it, but I wasn't fond of the design choice. The photo you used made me remember how happy gigantic Titan-sized Devastator made me, though.
My unpopular opinion; I like base modes. I'm excited for Star Convoy!
Just give me Armada Jetfire, Hasbro. I don’t care about your scaling escapades.
At least in Zone they made repainted Metroplex to create Metrotitan for Decepticon that year. In 1991 Return of Convoy, Japan had no toy Decepticons to play against the Battlestar Autobots which was a bummer.
Heck, I would have taken a repainted Quicskswitch as a Decepticon.
It took us until the retool of TR Galvatron to get a Super/Ultra Megatron.
Actually that might be another potential future Titan. Keep him around Star Convoy in size, and have the budget to do the ability to have both the Super and Ultra Megatron modes. Or go crazy and all the ones the Japanese designers kept adding.
How about the Titan package of Grandus and Sky Garry ? Since Grandus has the easiest transformation.
Star Convoy a Titan class?!
So, fix it went from part of the rescue patrol to a caretaker mini-con on the prison ship Alkamor in robots in disguise.
One of many odd choices of RID15/BB Adventure.
But the designs are amazing.
What I’m expecting out of Titan Star Convoy:
-16 inches tall (so he’s bigger than a Commander but smaller than past Titans)
-base mode compatibility w/ Earthrise and onward ramps and bases (I just want Ironworks and Airwave to matter again; might happen because Warden’s back on board)
-good articulation (he better be on par with Legacy Megalo Convoy and Evolution Nemesis)
-Micromaster Hot Rod (surely there’s enough budget in there for him with SC being smaller than normal)
Bro now voyagers are deluxes with extra, leaders are voyagers with extra, commanders were leaders with extra, now are titans gonna be commanders with extras?
They better include all of the other micro masters that weren’t made so we can have the full 4 members teams
He better be as Big as Tidal Wave.
honestly tidal wave was a pretty small titan so i hope hes at least a tiny bit bigger but idk
@@yiyan7473 Depends. If they do drop the price point down, I'd imagine he'd have to be smaller.
@@yiyan7473Devastator was also Small for a Titan
Same size as Armada Prime is fine with me.
Im down to buy basically 2 commanders plus some other plastic stuff at $200!
They could do Rail Racer from R.I.D. 2001 as a titan.
Sell Cybertron Megatron in a box set with dead Hotshot, Red Alert, and Scattorshot
Didn't they have a generations select galaxy upgrade Star Convoy a few years back?
I never realized how many cues Animated Optimus took from Star Convoy. If it weren't for this announcement, they probably could've used the Animated Voyager for the basis of a Leader or Commander.
Nah optimus make take a lot of inspiration but they are still in 2 completely different styles
I do want see a new metrotitan figure.
If its not going to be as big a Metroplex then its NOT "titan" as far as im concerned.
If Age of the Primes is doing the Aerialbots, Protectobots, and Combaticons, then the next trilogy would theoretically be Technobots, Terrorcons and ?
Seacons?
Predacons?
Trainbots?
Could we get Roadceaser and Liokaiser?
Welcome to the world of third-party, where you pay leader prices for legend class figures… really good mini-masterpiece legends figures.
5:49 dontcha mean Convoy-luted?
If you want a Titan Class Transformers figure do Energon Omega Supreme that will be a good Titan Class figure plus if Hasbro releases a new Energon Optimus Prime that can combine with Omega Supreme it will be cool also a new Wing Saber will be good too
The problem here is you're using toy scale instead of fiction scale. If that was what decided scale for new toys than Omega Supreme, and Tidalwave would've been commander class
Watch, the titan Optimus is a 2 pack with super Megatron.
I’d rather he come with Grandus instead.
Call him Battlestars Optimus Prime w/Grandus
Honestly it kinda makes sense as the next ss86 commander is a two pack.
@@HolyCow0273 plus it reminds me of how they said they didn’t wanna do rid2001 prime and ultra Magnus as commanders over 2 years. So throw 2 commanders in one box
I'd buy that.
@@coreybell2223 I'd also buy that.
So, by this logic, would that be the way to get Big Convoy and BW II Galvatron, or would they just be leaders/Commander class figures?
@mattr75 They're going to have to come up with a different name first, because Hasbro is apparently convinced Westerners won't buy a toy named Convoy and "Big Prime" would be a joke.
@@jameszetterman4487 The name Slammoth has been used by some sources for him. I think you could do both of them in Leader, though BW II Galvatron might be better off in Commander.
How is he not a city former if he can tow Grandus?
RID Megatron would be nice
If they make optimus prime a titan will they also make Megatron one to
I just need a titan Grandus