Narratively, it makes a lot of sense, the two most important periods are the lead-up to the war, and the period at least 100 years post-war. It makes complete sense on a narrative level to introduce characters who have a 1st person perspective on both. Fallout 1 and 2 generally kept this concept to factions rather than individual characters, but even they have a handful of characters who have seen both. Over time, the immortality has just become simpler. Cryogenic freezing and mutation and robot-ification gave way to indefinite life-extending which gave way to supernatually sustained immortality which has now given way to unexplained immortality (Moldaver).
My head cannon of vault 112/ tranquility lane, is that instead of the 10 or so people in the game, there was more like 100 people in the simulation. No real reasoning behind it besides the games limitations making cities really small with 10-15 people living in them when it would be more irl
Compare Skyrim's settlements in Arena to TESV and this answer makes total sense. They have to downscale everything to cartoonish levels in order to create the kind of interactivity they want in a 3D world. The same is true for Fallout when you compare IRL places to the games.
If you side with Lorenzo there is a random encounter of meeting him on the road surrounded by dead ghoul whom he murdered to study them. So I guess he will be more like a serial killer than an overlord. Maybe he would become on of those in-universe urban legends.
I didn’t intend to make him sound evil 😂 I suppose the dry delivery and gloomy music gives that vibe. I was simply stating the facts which do on reflection sound a bit evil 😂 I agree with you!
@iplaywhatiwant3738 to be fair, the other scientists at Big MT are just kinda 'normal' insane for the Fallout universe. Just think about how the raiders behave with how they decorate or the ancient Rome LARPers who went too far with their ACTUAL slavery stuff. These people are straight up nuts, top to bottom.
Absolutley wish nuka world would’ve let us make bradburton the leader of nuka world. Instead of just killing raiders and being hostile to all the factions imagine using bradburton’s nuka themed robots to wipe them out and seize control to begin restoring the park to its former glory and having settlers and traders move in their place
In a Fallout DnD campaign I made my character Mr. House's hitman brother whose brain gets put in a robot body by Mr. House after getting killed. That was fun. I think I teamed up with another guy who played as an intelligent Deathclaw who talked. Idr, it was like, maybe, 9 years ago give or take.
@shadesofslay It was fun rping as a super mutant too. Someone tried giving me drugs for mercy, I made my mutant mainline them and laugh. It was actually online. Idk if you ever heard of a website called Byond that let's you make retro games. Maybe you heard of Space Station 13. Rp Unlimited been dead for awhile. The guy also made a gundam one and an MGS one. Always use Burning Gundam, also made a dude named "Knives" I prefer text rping over DnD. But, in pure rp nobody would ever take damage.
There’ll be a fairly steady diet here! I’ll be cycling through Elder Scrolls and Fallout so it should be one or the other each release. I’m gonna be every week, or every other week. Probs once every couple weeks as we approach Christmas and then see how it goes! But the vids will be fairly long so hopefully that makes up for it!
Subbed! Found you on my recommended page and I haven’t watched fallout content in awhile. I hope and can’t wait to see your channel pop off here soon! Great video! 🫡
I’m glad the channel was recommended to you! It’s been exciting this last few weeks, the subs have been going up fast. Thanks for your support and kind words 🙂
I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope that they make Yes Man the antagonist for season 2 of the Fallout TV show. With Dave Foley back to do the voice, he could be so menacing if handled correctly! It would be a missed opportunity if they excluded him for some other route. I think House would still need to be in there, but just having Yes Man rolling around, unsure if he's obsequious or plotting against the protagonist, could just be so much fun!
I’d love to see Yes Man in it as well! I know some folk aren’t so sure about the show, but I enjoyed it. If anything felt contradictory I just compartmentalised it I suppose.
To me it's strange how the cabot family lives. I mean, they are surrounded by devastation and they live like nothing happened at all, they could have rebuilt the entire commonwealth and their house is the only one that remains sauber
Love that character but I kinda put him in the ghoul category (and they're so common) - but, his story is interesting, so I probably could have included it!
Could you imagine if the Institute got a hold of the GEK.... Due to the fact that it got into the hands of Doctor Madison Lee, The lone Wanderer's Father and the Brotherhood of Steel... The capabilities of the GEK were limited. I think if the Institute got ahold of it, things would have been differently... In the events of fallout, 4, they explicitly talk about they don't want anything to do with the Commonwealth or the wasteland, because it's well a wasteland, there's no fixing it there really isn't.... Unless you have a Terra forming device. A device capable of Tera forming entire planets if used correctly... The GEK...😐😐😐 The Institute has the level of technology to use it at its highest capacity. If they had access to it, they probably could have saved the world
I mean it's possible! But they also had some questionable morals too, so ya never know... but yeah it would be interesting to see what they'd have done with one!
@shadesofslay Indeed... Especially with their superiority complex they tend to abandon people... Lets say they do save the world. What comes after? I think a dictatorship or something similar.
Is Frank Horrigan immortal? He's technically infected with FEV, meaning he should be immortal. I'm not too familiar with the isometric Fallout games, beyond the fact you can kill him. Think I might do another NV run after I finish 4 to kill House, he told me cats were extinct. There are so many cats in FO4.
I think anything that’s exposed to FEV is immortal to all intents and purposes. And yes, why did House say that! I suppose the true reason is that there were no cats in Nevada, and he just assumed that was the whole world.
@@shadesofslay Look up "Calculator" in Fallout wiki. Idk how much of it is canon though. Basically brains in a jar being the overseer of vault 0. The whole system malfunctioned and became the endgame villain controlling genocidal robots that were supposed to bring order to the wasteland.
@ it’s okay to like the show, but it’s weird when “FaLlOuT fans ignore that the series lore and history is completely ruined by this adaptation being apart of the timeline. Between factions, characters, motivations, purposes and overall tone F1 F2 especially FNV can’t be canon anymore with the show existing. I know God Howard is gas lighting the idea that the OG games are okay, but even F3 and 4 get affected by the retcons in this show. Best case scenario is one day the show gets classified as a spiritual successor and is its own canon
@@wakeupzzz9110 tbh canon is getting confusing with a lot of franchises these days so I just have my personal headcanon and don’t really think much about what other folk think. If I make content I tend to just include all on screen materials whatever I personally think. It’s important to have your own comfy area for yourself where you have things the way you feel best about ‘em! At least it is to me anyway 🙂
@@shadesofslay very unique prospect, but im alright. I tend to appreciate ideas more when they make sequential sense to the establishments before them. However I will agree with you on that notion that just about every franchise is doing it. Very tragic
15:20 are supermutants really functionally immortal? I can't recall any sources but as I remember their lifespan is just way longer than humans', not that they do not get old at all
Thank you, I appreciate that :) I was trying to make the music contextual and give over the vibes of each section. That's the thing I did different this time!
God damn Professor Calvert! I'll probably do a follow up anyway, that maybe looks into the Robobrains in Far Harbor as well, etc. And maybe some of the more general immortals (or supposed immortals) like Ghouls and other cyborgs, and maybe AI's like the transit system in Fallout 3... (which is low key one of my favourite entities in the entirety of Fallout)
Dont want to spread negativity or anything but maybe move away from your mic a bit because me personally i pick up on youtubers that make mouth noises easily and i find it a bit annoying, dont know the best way to word this better sorry about that but nice video man 👍
I'll see what I can do... the type of mic I use, it has to be quite close. I'm also reticent to make too many changes just yet - but I probably will eventually. Anyway I'll see if I can mitigate it! What sorta noises can you hear? I don't really hear anything myself when listening back... just so I know what to look out for!
@ hard to describe really id say “clicking” noises idk its really quit though so wouldn’t worry too much about it I know theres many youtubers who straight up lip smack at full volume and the comments section only talks about it 😂
Mr. House's prediction of a pending nuclear apocalypse fits the 50s motif of the game, since many industrialists (*COUGH, fascists*) predicted the same thing throughout the real 1950s and even the 60s. This led to a boom in bomb shelters being constructed by private interests all across America throughout those two decades.
This is just sorta a listicle, summarizing like the basic Wikipedia points of characters. Which I guess is fine. It’s normal. I sorta expected some analysis I guess.
Sometimes I just feel like talking about the lore of the game, other times I feel more like theorising or finding more obscure content. That being said, I couldn't help but imagine scenarios/comment on what happened to these characters, even just a tiny bit.
@ not trying to hate, or anything. Hopefully it’s just me but I’m just getting a lot of harsh S’s and C’s. like the mics a little hot. best of luck in your endeavor 🫡
@@youknowitsGORT Don't worry, I'm here for feedback - I'm a bit of a perfectionist, so it's got me thinking - definitely something I'm going to tweak before the next upload. If it isn't perfect, feel free to let me know again and maybe the tweaks will be a journey to optimal audiophile heaven 🤣 thanks again!
Immortal isn't always the same as invulnerable - but yes, for some, we'd need to literally experience the entire lifespan of the universe to confirm immortality if we're being pedantic. But most may as well be.
Never thought about it but there is a lot of immortal people in fallout
A proper wacky lineup!
Narratively, it makes a lot of sense, the two most important periods are the lead-up to the war, and the period at least 100 years post-war.
It makes complete sense on a narrative level to introduce characters who have a 1st person perspective on both. Fallout 1 and 2 generally kept this concept to factions rather than individual characters, but even they have a handful of characters who have seen both.
Over time, the immortality has just become simpler. Cryogenic freezing and mutation and robot-ification gave way to indefinite life-extending which gave way to supernatually sustained immortality which has now given way to unexplained immortality (Moldaver).
@shadesofslay i cant comment did you turn them off?
@@shadesofslay All your missing is the final one with the B O W L E R, first letter S last letter H.
Not when I'm done with them.
My head cannon of vault 112/ tranquility lane, is that instead of the 10 or so people in the game, there was more like 100 people in the simulation. No real reasoning behind it besides the games limitations making cities really small with 10-15 people living in them when it would be more irl
Your not wrong really. Bethesda has said this is true in their elder scrolls games, and I don't see why it would apply here
I think this is a pretty reasonable idea!
Compare Skyrim's settlements in Arena to TESV and this answer makes total sense. They have to downscale everything to cartoonish levels in order to create the kind of interactivity they want in a 3D world. The same is true for Fallout when you compare IRL places to the games.
Tbh my head cannon was much the same , braun killed of many before we turned up was my canon
If you side with Lorenzo there is a random encounter of meeting him on the road surrounded by dead ghoul whom he murdered to study them. So I guess he will be more like a serial killer than an overlord. Maybe he would become on of those in-universe urban legends.
I’ve never chosen to help him, so I’ve never experienced that encounter - fascinating.
That's called a scientist 😂 this is normal well others do the killing while he the scientists do studying
You make Mobius sound evil lol. He was quarantining the rest of planet from the five most insane people in the universe.
I didn’t intend to make him sound evil 😂 I suppose the dry delivery and gloomy music gives that vibe. I was simply stating the facts which do on reflection sound a bit evil 😂 I agree with you!
@iplaywhatiwant3738 to be fair, the other scientists at Big MT are just kinda 'normal' insane for the Fallout universe. Just think about how the raiders behave with how they decorate or the ancient Rome LARPers who went too far with their ACTUAL slavery stuff. These people are straight up nuts, top to bottom.
Absolutley wish nuka world would’ve let us make bradburton the leader of nuka world. Instead of just killing raiders and being hostile to all the factions imagine using bradburton’s nuka themed robots to wipe them out and seize control to begin restoring the park to its former glory and having settlers and traders move in their place
Would have loved to see that, or he'll even have the minute men take the park, or brotherhood
Thoroughly enjoyed the video, as well as your awesome accent.
You've earned my subscription!
Much appreciated
In a Fallout DnD campaign I made my character Mr. House's hitman brother whose brain gets put in a robot body by Mr. House after getting killed. That was fun. I think I teamed up with another guy who played as an intelligent Deathclaw who talked. Idr, it was like, maybe, 9 years ago give or take.
Love that. I would not have minded being part of that group!
@shadesofslay It was fun rping as a super mutant too. Someone tried giving me drugs for mercy, I made my mutant mainline them and laugh. It was actually online. Idk if you ever heard of a website called Byond that let's you make retro games. Maybe you heard of Space Station 13. Rp Unlimited been dead for awhile. The guy also made a gundam one and an MGS one. Always use Burning Gundam, also made a dude named "Knives" I prefer text rping over DnD. But, in pure rp nobody would ever take damage.
bro a fallout dnd campaign sounds LEGENDARY. i’m still learning to be a dm and that sounds like it’s right up my alley for a first campaign
@@alexandersteen7707magic had fallout cards
You've been killing it lately mate, great videos
Thank you :)
All the immortals I've met turned out to be quite mortal
Immortal doesn't always mean invulnerable.
Plot twist: The Master is still around. He just blew up the church, not the underground section he is in.
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This is the content I need in my life. Thanks for the great vid!
No problem - glad you enjoyed it!
first video of yours i have seen and I am very impressed! keep up the greatness!
I'll do my best
Moriarty is that you?
More like thenthapples cousin lol
I’ve been looking for more fallout content lately, this scratched that itch 😂
There’ll be a fairly steady diet here! I’ll be cycling through Elder Scrolls and Fallout so it should be one or the other each release. I’m gonna be every week, or every other week. Probs once every couple weeks as we approach Christmas and then see how it goes! But the vids will be fairly long so hopefully that makes up for it!
My brother! As always this was a BANGER! Love this work, I adore all things deep lore from these games, thank you sir
Thank you! It was a fun one to do, since I’ve always found the immortal characters interesting!
Braun is immortal because half of Fallout 3 was designed while they were still planning to set the game 25 years after the bombs dropped.
Subbed!
Found you on my recommended page and I haven’t watched fallout content in awhile. I hope and can’t wait to see your channel pop off here soon!
Great video! 🫡
I’m glad the channel was recommended to you! It’s been exciting this last few weeks, the subs have been going up fast. Thanks for your support and kind words 🙂
Me walking into Oasis with a fat man to put Hubert out of his misery.
I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope that they make Yes Man the antagonist for season 2 of the Fallout TV show. With Dave Foley back to do the voice, he could be so menacing if handled correctly! It would be a missed opportunity if they excluded him for some other route. I think House would still need to be in there, but just having Yes Man rolling around, unsure if he's obsequious or plotting against the protagonist, could just be so much fun!
I’d love to see Yes Man in it as well! I know some folk aren’t so sure about the show, but I enjoyed it. If anything felt contradictory I just compartmentalised it I suppose.
To me it's strange how the cabot family lives. I mean, they are surrounded by devastation and they live like nothing happened at all, they could have rebuilt the entire commonwealth and their house is the only one that remains sauber
This is a good point. They really didn’t make much effort to help anyone else did they!
Fun fact: you can accept petrovitas request and still get the weapon afterward. It's legit because I tried it myself not too long ago
Let’s fucking go! Love your content. Please keep making videos.
Thank you :) and don't worry, no plans to quit!
You’re extremely underrated! Your narration is top tier! ❤
Thank you, I really appreciate that! I find myself wondering how big the channel will get, with time... will just have to wait and see I suppose!
@@shadesofslayNo problem, good luck with the growth of the channel man, I hope you get more attention! :)
@ ❤️
I like to think that all that time.That the sole survivor was Cryogenically frozen It mutated his cells and he became immortal.
Ya never know eh??
I guess the ghosts like Anna Winslow are somewhat immortal as well. Crazy how many characters are in Fallout 😮
It is kinda wild when you start listing it!
Honestly with how Moira in Fallout 3 can survive a nuke detonated a hundred feet away from her, I’d be inclined to add her to this list 😂
Greatb point!!
Another incredible video, king
Thank you
Poor Timmy Neusbaum.
It occurs to me that after the Fallout TV show, the Cabot formula might have something to do with ghouls.
Great video definitely gonna check out some more on your channel
Much appreciated, hope you enjoy :)
You forgot Desmond Lockhart 🤙
Love that character but I kinda put him in the ghoul category (and they're so common) - but, his story is interesting, so I probably could have included it!
@shadesofslay understandable, him and his adversary are basically a ghoul and RoboBrain
Keep up the vids always enjoy this content 🤙
@@ethandolinski5921 Both super interesting tho of course!
19:18 is surprisingly wholesome to me.
On the move so can’t click - what part was that??
@ That despite him being a head in a jar essentially. He’s still proud that people are still drinking his creation for over 200 years.
@ ah gotcha - thanks - yeah it is pretty wholesome eh!
Lorenzo vs The Master but then Mr. House comes in from the side with a thousand steel chairs and a fuckin WW2 era bomber
I loved the video dude.
Thanks :)
Could you imagine if the Institute got a hold of the GEK....
Due to the fact that it got into the hands of Doctor Madison Lee, The lone Wanderer's Father and the Brotherhood of Steel... The capabilities of the GEK were limited.
I think if the Institute got ahold of it, things would have been differently...
In the events of fallout, 4, they explicitly talk about they don't want anything to do with the Commonwealth or the wasteland, because it's well a wasteland, there's no fixing it there really isn't.... Unless you have a Terra forming device.
A device capable of Tera forming entire planets if used correctly...
The GEK...😐😐😐
The Institute has the level of technology to use it at its highest capacity. If they had access to it, they probably could have saved the world
I mean it's possible! But they also had some questionable morals too, so ya never know... but yeah it would be interesting to see what they'd have done with one!
@shadesofslay Indeed...
Especially with their superiority complex they tend to abandon people... Lets say they do save the world.
What comes after?
I think a dictatorship or something similar.
Underrated channel fr
Subs have been going up pretty fast, which is amazing!
I completely forgot Mr House was born in 2020. He'd be watching brainrot videos on his mum's ipad by now.
banger vid. had to sub
Thank you for that :)
You sir should make a Fallout London video.
I have a playthrough on-going at the moment, I'm trying to get to know the game first but I definitely would love to cover it :)
Woohoo! It was a chilly one today so this was nice to see as I wind down. You know what that means? TIME TO GET COMFY AND ENJOY THE VID! Cheers!
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Hope you enjoyed it :)
I had to double check the channel name, I thought this was thanapple
Apple's accent is softer
Keep up the great work
Thank you, I’ll certainly do my best!
Is Frank Horrigan immortal? He's technically infected with FEV, meaning he should be immortal. I'm not too familiar with the isometric Fallout games, beyond the fact you can kill him.
Think I might do another NV run after I finish 4 to kill House, he told me cats were extinct. There are so many cats in FO4.
I think anything that’s exposed to FEV is immortal to all intents and purposes. And yes, why did House say that! I suppose the true reason is that there were no cats in Nevada, and he just assumed that was the whole world.
What about Gary clones? I expect them to have a normal lifespan, but they just keep coming.
There are also brains in jars in Fallout: Tactics.
Never played it! What’s the lore there?
@@shadesofslay Look up "Calculator" in Fallout wiki. Idk how much of it is canon though.
Basically brains in a jar being the overseer of vault 0. The whole system malfunctioned and became the endgame villain controlling genocidal robots that were supposed to bring order to the wasteland.
@ super interesting! I’ll take a look! Thanks again!
@kaarelkahu212 Bunch of the smartest and most powerful brains in the world, might I add. Basically a biological supercomputer.
love this video quality content
Thank you, I really appreciate that 🙂
Breaking down R. House background makes you realize how badly the T.V show runners fucked the lore
I'm def interested to see what happens in Season 2...
@ it’s okay to like the show, but it’s weird when “FaLlOuT fans ignore that the series lore and history is completely ruined by this adaptation being apart of the timeline. Between factions, characters, motivations, purposes and overall tone F1 F2 especially FNV can’t be canon anymore with the show existing. I know God Howard is gas lighting the idea that the OG games are okay, but even F3 and 4 get affected by the retcons in this show. Best case scenario is one day the show gets classified as a spiritual successor and is its own canon
@@wakeupzzz9110 tbh canon is getting confusing with a lot of franchises these days so I just have my personal headcanon and don’t really think much about what other folk think. If I make content I tend to just include all on screen materials whatever I personally think. It’s important to have your own comfy area for yourself where you have things the way you feel best about ‘em! At least it is to me anyway 🙂
@@shadesofslay very unique prospect, but im alright. I tend to appreciate ideas more when they make sequential sense to the establishments before them. However I will agree with you on that notion that just about every franchise is doing it. Very tragic
@ totally, you’ve got to do things your own way! ❤️
15:20 are supermutants really functionally immortal? I can't recall any sources but as I remember their lifespan is just way longer than humans', not that they do not get old at all
A lot of sources say that due to rapid cell regeneration they are effectively immortal, but obviously not invulnerable.
This video is so good
Thank you, I appreciate that :) I was trying to make the music contextual and give over the vibes of each section. That's the thing I did different this time!
@ it’s really great. I think this is the first video talking about the immortals in Fallout.
@@gnatkun6210
very nice video
Thank you!
Hell yeah
Hope you enjoy!
You forgot one in point lookout buddy.
God damn Professor Calvert! I'll probably do a follow up anyway, that maybe looks into the Robobrains in Far Harbor as well, etc. And maybe some of the more general immortals (or supposed immortals) like Ghouls and other cyborgs, and maybe AI's like the transit system in Fallout 3... (which is low key one of my favourite entities in the entirety of Fallout)
Robert Gaff 🏴
Ive played Fallout4 for 7days total play time, and i missed the head under nuka world?!
I missed it for yeeeeaaarrssss too.
Someone hit the CC bu-un, blody 'ell...
Not sure what this means!
Dont want to spread negativity or anything but maybe move away from your mic a bit because me personally i pick up on youtubers that make mouth noises easily and i find it a bit annoying, dont know the best way to word this better sorry about that but nice video man 👍
I'll see what I can do... the type of mic I use, it has to be quite close. I'm also reticent to make too many changes just yet - but I probably will eventually. Anyway I'll see if I can mitigate it! What sorta noises can you hear? I don't really hear anything myself when listening back... just so I know what to look out for!
@ hard to describe really id say “clicking” noises idk its really quit though so wouldn’t worry too much about it I know theres many youtubers who straight up lip smack at full volume and the comments section only talks about it 😂
@ I’ll see why I can do to mitigate it!!
There is no -mis-chev-e-ous.
Its mis-chiv-ous.
You’re being pretty mischievous yourself!
17:17 TWENTY SEVENTY WHAT?!?!
😂
Mr. House's prediction of a pending nuclear apocalypse fits the 50s motif of the game, since many industrialists (*COUGH, fascists*) predicted the same thing throughout the real 1950s and even the 60s. This led to a boom in bomb shelters being constructed by private interests all across America throughout those two decades.
This is just sorta a listicle, summarizing like the basic Wikipedia points of characters. Which I guess is fine. It’s normal.
I sorta expected some analysis I guess.
Sometimes I just feel like talking about the lore of the game, other times I feel more like theorising or finding more obscure content. That being said, I couldn't help but imagine scenarios/comment on what happened to these characters, even just a tiny bit.
Number 2 comment 🤘🏻
I don't like alien bullshit.
Ok 😂
Fallouft 3 and 4 are not canon
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Number 2 comment :)
You can kill house.
So immortal, exposure to the atmosphere does him in.
Immortality and invulnerability are two different things.
@zeggyiv The line about germs killing him was a reference to his real life counterpart, Howard Hughes. We don't know if he was exaggerating or not.
bring the highs down on your vocal mix, back up from the mic, get a mic shield or something. It’s painful to listen to this
You're the first person to have said anything but, if there's a problem, glad you did. Anyone else having any issues with the audio?
@ not trying to hate, or anything. Hopefully it’s just me but I’m just getting a lot of harsh S’s and C’s. like the mics a little hot. best of luck in your endeavor 🫡
@@youknowitsGORT Don't worry, I'm here for feedback - I'm a bit of a perfectionist, so it's got me thinking - definitely something I'm going to tweak before the next upload. If it isn't perfect, feel free to let me know again and maybe the tweaks will be a journey to optimal audiophile heaven 🤣 thanks again!
I honestly didnt even notice anything lol@@shadesofslay
None of these characters are immortal. They just have long life spans and are difficult to kill.
Immortal isn't always the same as invulnerable - but yes, for some, we'd need to literally experience the entire lifespan of the universe to confirm immortality if we're being pedantic. But most may as well be.