As soon as you said you were “committed to open source” I paused the vid to write this. JB, you’re a great ambassador for FPV. It fills me full of hope for this hobby knowing that you’re responsible & smart & won’t put up with monopolies bullying market competitors. Market competition is the driving force behind this kind of technology. 👍🏻👍🏻🤓
Just started in this hobby. Had my T16 Pro deliverwd this week, after watching your original review, asking for internal multi module and hall effect. Very happy. Cheers Joshua from the UK!!
Welcome to the club! My first radio was a Jumper t8sg , haha . It's a bit toyish, but it's cool, because it's basically a multiprotocol module with gimbals. If you can, get a simulator set up. Best thing you can do for your flying and it'll save you hundfeds if not more in crash repairs. Not that it'll keep you from crashing, but getting the first 50 out of the way by being able to hit the teset buttoj is virtually priceless. Happy flying, brother! 👍 And Hi @MC's Creations 😁
OK Joshua, you convinced me. I have used my X9D+ for the last several years and was just about to order the new 2019 version. You changed my mind. My T16 Pro is ordered today and I'm in fact excited to try the new color LCD in all its glory!
Well... It's good enough for me! 😊 I can make a 2 cell charger for 18650s with 2 TP4056, no problems. (Actually, I think I'm going to!) To be honest, I have my X9D Plus SE and I'm pretty happy with it and I'm not going to change. But I need to buy a second radio for my father soon enough. And I totally agree, Joshua, I don't feel well buying a FrSky radio right now. So I guess I'm going to choose the T16. 😊 Oh, and FANTASTIC news about OpenTX! 😃
Joshua, you should try to partner with Jumper and release the "JB T16", it would be completely innovative as I have never seen a radio with a pilots name on it (there are a lot quad parts though, that's common now). People are looking for new radios and maybe they don't want to support Frsky because of the polemic happening right now or they don't want to have to jump the hoops to get CRSF or get a module to get D8, or they are looking for something reliable that doesn't failsafe like Spektrum or they want to support the cool guys. You could also put a sweet decal on it and have your signature, plus you are the knowitall tech guy, and having a signature radio would drive people crazy.
I really do like that idea. Premium case design, internal multiprotocol & hall effect gimbals, external charging port (even if it's just a goggle barrel adapter pass-through), maybe have them add a small external switch to turn off the screen when not in use, and that's a product I'd throw $200 at in a heartbeat. That radio, plus your multimedia documentation on how to configure it (for ANY receiver, plus CRSF add-on) would be the standard-bearer.
After all I decided to buy a new Jumper T18. I'm an absolute beginner, my RC experience ended in the age of about 14 - 35 years ago :-) But so far I like it. I've managed to setup a model for the simulator and started flying (crashing). The Sender really feels good, and everything worked fine (You have to enable Input access for the simulator app in the preferences if you are on a Mac). Thanks for your effords Joshua
Been running the v2 t8sg, and I wouldn't even consider another tx. Even on devination I can set this radio to do everything I need. Even 14ch on ibus. Jumper has continuously brought excellent, affordable options to the hobby. Welcome to the dark side JB!
Same. I recently switched to Crossfire and I am glad I did. I didn't really "need" Crossfire per se, but I simply didn't want to support FrSky every again. For now I am sticking with my 9XD, but once it fails, I will not repair it.
kinda brave to go full jumper publicly, i hope theres no repercussions and you still get to support everybody trying to pfaff their way through frsky nd opentx etc.
I got mine from aliexpress, the name of the store is "JumperTechnology Store", they sell PRO/Plus versions already. Kinda wish I would have waited for the PRO with internal module, but I don't do crossfire, so not a big deal (:
So I started in this hobby earlier this year. I took a plunge and forked out to buy an X9D plus se after watching reviews and wanted a future proof radio not knowing what was coming with access firmware and the refresh line since I was new. Not only is my new radio now technically an old model but it also means the whole reason I bought it for future proofing is now questionable. So I did it. I bought a Jumper T16 pro a few moments ago and will be selling the X9D to fund a crossfire module and receivers for my quads. @#$% you Frsky.
I don't understand... If you intend to use a crossfire system of Rx/Tx and have no interest in the ACCESS series of Rx, what's wrong with the X9D? Sure, now you have a colour screen, but besides that, couldn't you have spent the 160$ you spent on the T16 on a Crossfire system?
It's awesome! I ditched my DX9, a supposedly better built radio, but the old school walled garden approach of Spektrum was driving me mad. I'm fairly sure you'll like the T16 a lot!
@@jacquesmaries2324 to be fair, T16 supports a lot more stuff for crossfire, such as Lua script telemetry screens that look way better on the jumper color screen, and for less $¥£.
@@jacquesmaries2324 Well I don't really want to support Frsky. I was just happy using xm+ on my quads till access rolled up now I'm not so sure I want to build my fleet with frsky receivers in them. I wasn't expecting to invest in crossfire because I don't really need it but if frsky want to close doors I'll just have to jump out
@@khylvans8459 I am not married to Frsky, and may get a Jumper when my x9d dies, but not until they have a proven track record. I don't mind loosing a quad to a defective radio, but I also fly big gas planes, and I won't risk those! So I'll let you guys be the guinea pigs and will wait until more data is available :) . Regarding "closing the door" not sure what you mean : that ACCESS is not open source? Well, neither is Crossfire, or KISS or FlightOne.
Got my T16 this week after my trusty X9D died. T16 is nice so far - but I learnt the hard way about copying over models using the OpenTX Companion - when you copy them make sure you edit each model to switch the internal and external module to "OFF" before you write them to the radio !!! Else the radio freaks and no models are written and emergency mode entered. Do the edit and write them - then once on the radio just go in and switch internal or external module on again for each model - remember to do this every time you want to use companion to edit the models ! Hopefully it will soon be ok to use companion in the normal way when the T16 is supported by OpenTX.
Thanks for fighting against this proprietary way of doing things. I love the fact that more & more Open Source Software is finding it's way to the RC Hobby! My Computer OS is Open Source and all the Applications I use are Open Source. When it's time to replace my existing Transmitter I had already decided that a Jumper TX was the way to go. See you in the Air!
I switch from my X9D to the Jumpter T16 Pro and I couldn’t be happier with it. Blown away by how nice it is and I don’t think I’ll be going back to the X9D
Thanks Joshua, I have been stuck between a rock and a hard place these past few days. After a crazy lot of research this review is my final piece of information. I am new getting into the hobby with a friend who has the older Taranis X9D Plus Transmitter, and the desicion of buying the right transmitter has been tough for me personally. But your review on the Jumper T16 made it alot easier. My friend and I value your opinion and knowledge in this field very highly. What are your thoughts on the new arrival of the Jumper T18? I am finalizing my decision to buy this Transmitter.
I love the X10S but I love the TBS Crossfire more. Too bad I can't use both together. I modified my old Spektrum DX9 for crossfire and use the X10S for FRSKY. Funny how Frsky crippled their flagship and shipped a royal piece of %$#@ 900Mhz R9 transmitter for free with it. Bought 2 R9 slim receivers and crashed several times before I realized it wasn't the FC but the Frsky. Using the crossfire on the same FC and flawless over 100 flights.
Running one of the first batch T16’s with all the upgrades done and it’s been solid! Getting ready to add the URUAV 5v charge board for usb charging, crossfire takes a toll on the 18650’s. After watching your first Jumper T16 video I was sold. Thanks Mr Bardwell!
I bought my T16:Hall from rclife.co.uk it's an excellent radio. What makes this a no brainer is the unmatched price, colour screen, included multi mode module, internal and external software selectable module bays, build quality, hall effect gimbals and now open tx support! Even the battery choices is not an issue because 18650s and their chargers are commonly used for vaping, so they can be purchased at any vaping store. Any 2s battery that fits can also be used. You could go for an x9d and have a mono very low res screen but pay a lot more for a less flexible radio.
Had mine for a couple of months now and have no problems at all. Both the internal module and gimbals were easy to change and worth the money. It's a really good radio, couldn't be happier with it.
Another great point here is literally every single little board on the inside of the radio is replaceable and available from Alibaba. I’ve had things shipped from there in
Got mine at heli nation as a Birthday present to myself, now to get my spektrum planes working well with it too, binding is easy but channel output programming is taking some time. Keep up the videos on this radio as you set it up, I would love tips and tricks, maybe a better battery life technique as well. 👍
My first radio the T12, originally upon purchase didn't bind with most of my quads. Before years end Bugs 3, JXD 506G, Bayang X16 and the AirHogs USS Enterprise. Plays Tetris and runs the LUA scripts that even my Jumper T16 doesn't. I have JST, Jumper 4 in 1 and R9M modules which lets me switch between the smaller T12 and T16 without re binding. Point being there is a lot of effort going on to support this radio. Jumper radios have the most capability, diversity and are very exciting to own. Also thx to the Deviation team too.
If anyones having issues using the radio with a simulater on windows 10, heres something you can try. 1. Plug in the radio, you should hear the sound when something gets pluuged in, thats a good sign 2. On your windows search bar, search for device manager 3. Plug in your radio and click usb joystick It should now pop up im the device manager 4. It should be under better_usb_hs Right click it and update the driver. Click browse my computer for software. Let me pick from a list. Finally select usb input device. There you go, it should be working now
I know I'm late to this video...was looking at the T16 and it lead me here... What was said in the video makes a lot of sense. If what was said is true, I am surprised how much power FrSky has in the market...and I would be less inclined to buy FrSky in the future. The jumper T16 seems like what a radio offering SHOULD be...having options. Making the hobby less about getting roped into a proprietary eco system and more about buying cool models to fly.
I have to agree with you on this one. I think it is time people start moving away from FrSky due to their business tactics. At least for anyone who is looking for a new radio, they should consider something like the Jumper or other non-frsky radios. Or , if you opt for the DJI FPV system, their radio is OK too, though I really wish it came in a game controller style form factor.
Well that's you blacklisted by frsky 😂😂. Strange how you have made this video now as I have been thinking of moving over to jumper for the past couple of weeks. You just reassured me it's a good move. Thank you.
I literally was only waiting to find out why it wasn't JBs daily radio. He said it would be if... Then, if happened. So, I wondered what the hold up was. I'm in.
It would be nice if ALL vendors collaborated and called Frskys bluff. I'm betting if all the major vendors said "go for it frsky, pull your product" FrSky would have to cave or go bankrupt
I really like my JumperT16. It works Great for my Bayang tiny whoops and my EMAX Tinyhawk Freestyle with FrSky compatible receiver. For me it works fine just the way it is. When I get to long range, Crossfire will be my choice and I don't mind changing the module (for now). In the future I will likely upgrade the gimbals and maybe even put in the internal module kit. I am also glad to hear that the Open Source crew has realized that, by design, open source should run on ANY compatible radio. Thanks Joshua.
I am just getting started and I appreciate everything JB does here. I have learned so much. Sadly, Grayson Hobby is back ordered and I need a radio now! I am coming from RC cars/trucks. I am learning to do all the correct steps and I believe a quality radio is the best starting point.
Jumper is raising fast. I've got my T12 plus (basically due to backpack / form factor reasons) less than one year ago, I've struggled a bit to make my R9M module compatible but what I have now is a cheap, well done and reliable TX system. I'm absolutely satisfied about this brand.
I'm really glad that I didn't get a FrSky radio, to be completely honest. I hate Apple for the same reason. They want to use their position in the market to get their way and it doesn't matter who they stomp on in the process. I don't have a Jumper radio, but I do have the Nirvana and have been 100% happy with it from day one. Support has been reliable because of 3rd party developers and the radio works great.
Some people love to fly in different type of environments with probably require different type of receivers-transmitter, that's why i love your statement that this hobby is about openness.. good job Joshua
I just ordered one and it is going to be my daily driver as well i'm moving away from taranis because I know there not gonna support crossfire anymore.
While looking if the 2019 x9d would carry on excluding crossfire, i saw UAVFutures' video on the T16 Pro, and he said it was good, new king, but didn't mention anything about the issues w/ FCC , openTX , which really should be the ONLY topics in a T16 update video !? Hearing the real issues seem to be worked out is such a relief, Thank you JB ! Looks like i might be getting my first real radio soon !
Im Jumping off the FrSky bandwagon primarily based on their actions in the industry. While I have enjoyed my Taranis X9D for over 3 years now, been through 6 gimbals, changed out my antenna connector, etc. & generally been happy with it. I don't believe their product is THAT good. I am glad you've brought up the Jumper T16, as well as giving us a list of links. FrSky, *shrug* stop trying to be Apple. It sucks to suck.
I just hope the jumper guys make a big enough wave to humble the frsky guys a bit. I use a frsky qx7 with crossfire and the mod required cost me a radio so far. so I'd like to see frsky back again with their quality and compatibility in upcoming radio's. Or my next one sure Is a jumper!
XT-Xinte also carries the T16 Plus. Right now you can get it for $133 shipped (gotta add it to cart for price to change) I just bought one, should show up next week.
Well now they have the new jumper 18 pro with 915mhz capable. Geez. We need videos lol. I know there coming. Looking forward to it. Thanks in advance 😊
Thank you Joshua , I was thinking about the freesky radio, now I know I am not going to go after it! I will try the Jumper t16, thank you sir, as always I learned some thing watching your vid's! :) once Again Thank you !
Allo Joshua , I am still thinking I am new to the hobby and I like to spend my money very wisely so that my gear last for a very long time .For that reason when I learned about FrSky bullying ( yes that's what I call what they're doing ) resselers about Jumper and thought that this was a wise money investment (Multi-Protocol = 1 to run them all ) my decision was easy FrSky is now for me O U T PERNEMANENTLY !! I am very happy that Jumper has upgraded T16 to your suggestions ( & FPV Comunnity ) now I can spot a order for what I am almost certain is the last RC I will invest on , I am almost there now a bit more waiting for the Orca's and I will be set .Thank You so much for all you do for us , Cheers from up north Montreal Qc
I'm really glad I got T16+ when it was released, it was much more than worth the price even with those few cons and now literally all of them are resolved. I was disappointed with lack of internal module and almost didn't buy it, but the amount of people buying the it is probably what let them finally fulfil their plans. BTW UnmannedTechShop sells it (as well as the new internal board) in UK and FPV24 sells it in Germany if you're from EU. They both still manage to sell FrSky products somehow.
I just bought the T16 Pro, a few months after this video to be sure, but this was the start. I'm all Spektrum right now, and frankly, OpenTx looks like a Commodore 64 in comparison. But Spectrum suffered the same fate Frsky is going to suffer... over- protecting without allowing for outside compatibility. And certain manufacturers ( Emax, I'm looking at you ), are only releasing products for Frsky ( Tinyhawk, etc. ) .
Nice! I bought a T16 Hall when it first came available, but haven't used waiting for clean OpenTX/Companion support. (I have plenty of other OTX radios to use in the meantime)
Hey Josh well said I was going to make a long comment but u said it all we just want good stuff for good place and what frsky did it's just disrespectful for all of us who have a frsky radio, I m switching too .hey jumper👍👍
Alert !!! I just got the Jumper T16 Pro. To work with dsm2 and dsmx receivers BOTH internal RF and external RF have to be ON in the model setup menu. After hours trying to make it work with the internal RF only and no response I try both on and wala!! works.
That is a bold move Joshua! I think you are soo right with the open sourceness etc. I am with you. Thanx for solving 2 out of 3... I am considering this as my next radio!
I've watched a few of your videos, but this one made me realize I need to subscribe. What a cool radio, maybe FrSky should take tips instead of hating.
But which one? JumperTX T16. Jumper T16. Jumper XYZ T16. Jumper T16 DC7. Jumper plus. Jumper pro. Jumper hall effect? There's about a dozed T16 radios. Which is which?
What the T16 is missing for me is a headphone jack. This is great to have when flying at an event where there's lots of noise around you. Hearing your speaker is not easy and I also wouldn't want to hear other people's battery level all the time too. Other than that, a great radio. With the headphone jack built in from the factory I guess I would buy the T16 as well.
I already switched to X fire instead of frsky 900Mhz despite the price difference, fot the same reasons as jb points out, Nice to der the community react.
Anyone have a problem with static coming out their speaker on the jumper? I got my radio today, soon as I turned it on I could hear static. Not 'loud' but noticeable. Seems to be tied to the screen. When the screen goes to sleep it gets louder, if I increase brightness it gets slightly quieter. Adjusting volume has no effect. I was so geeked up when the package arrived, then so pissed a couple hours later.
In mine, I made my own pack with 2 21700 5000 mAH cells and a 2S balance connector. I just charge it through the balance connector with a normal lipo charger.
My first and only Frsky Taranis QX7 bit the dust (missed the river 1st fail safe -radio shut off-. Hit concrete from 60ft up do to another shut off). My three quads run XM+ (not updated for RSSI...shame shame I know.) The Jumper T16 has been in my wish list and would like to know if I would be able to easily Bind with XM+ receivers. Or if those XM+ receivers would need to be updated first. Thanks for all you do! And thanks for everyone who helps out in the comments!
You should review a Futaba. Lots of top racing pilots are moving on to them. I know it's out of budget for most pilots but I think it would be cool to see what a "premium" radio brings to the table.
if anyone loses a vendor for supporting a product that furturises our sport or hobby then we don't need them. Same deal for DJI you guys are on notice.
I'm heavily invested in FrSky/CRSF and am not a happy camper given FrSkys direction. Right now I'm living with the DJI basic radio because I am going all in (or very nearly so) on the DJI System. Sad as it is to say, I am truly unhappy with HDO/Rapidfire now that I'm used to the HD system. My ideal setup would be an open TX radio with a DJI module in the bay. I really, really miss my CRSF modded X7S, but not so bad I'm going to give up what DJI brings to the party. As far as my thought on brand loyalty, FrSky is lower than dirt in my list, with DJI beating them by virtue of the fact they don't have any nasty privacy invasion/geofence/check-in in their FPV line. Flysky seems to have blown it as of late with the FPV underground debacle. Jeti is overpriced and too snooty for my taste. I'd probably pay the big bucks for a Spektrum IX-12, but still no DJI and very complex internally. They may be a contender before this is over though. A Jumper with DJI connectivity would be a great setup. Wonder who is going to be 1st with a DJI module?? They can charge pretty steep for it considering the DJI $300 price for a plain-jane TX. I'm going to tolerate the dumb and trimless DJI Tx for the winter and see what shows up. IF(BIG IF HERE) DJI really wants into our universe, a OpenTX radio will be on the drawing board, sans geofencing and the other nasty stuff. I'm going to try my Clearview on the DJI goggles, and just ordered a Goggle front plate that accepts the Rapidfire. I don't expect DJI performance from either, but solid video with the analog limitations might let me fly my analog stuff without retrofitting all of them (and the ones that won't carry a DJI Air module). Dreams of HD Whooping abound.... Thanks for the nice update Joshua, keep us informed on how the Jumper stands up.
Hobby-wing.com carries them as well. I bought my first bnf setup from them when i first started flying fpv. They’ve taken care of me a few times when i had issues with some products. They are really good with customer service as far as Chinese vendors go. ALSO! You want the PRO VERSION, not PLUS VERSION. The pro version supports crossfire! The plus does not.
Wow. This seems like the radio to have if we want to bind it to anything. I like my qx7, but wished it had crossfire support out of the box, as I would like to get a quad with crossfire in the future. Now I’m stuck! 😖 thanks Frsky! Nice way to alienate your customer base
As far as I can see OpenTX 2.3.1 (released yesterday) does NOT yet contain Jumper T16 support. It seems though that this support was merged into the branch 2.3 on GitHub about 11 days ago. I really hope that they publish an official version containing support for the T16 soon.
Old guy story... The IBM PC was the leader and there were clones. IBM decided to try and cement their position by creating a faster proprietary bus that could not be easily cloned. The clones just kept using the old bus structure and they grew. Very quickly IBM became the one with the unusual bus so nobody wanted them. Meanwhile the clones developed faster and faster bus structures and you have the brands we have today.
Sold my DX8 and made the Jump (no pun intended!) to Open Tx with Jumper. Getting used to the different programming but really loving this Tx (and its big colour screen) - and for so little money. Quite a few places stocking it in the UK :-)
While FrSky might have enough weight to bully their dealers, they cannot bully the consumer who ultimately decides how (and where) to spend their money. Jumper is the FrSky of five years ago, and FrSky recognizes that. They know what they brought to the table with the original DX9, and how they absolutely stole the market share for OpenTX users. This T16 represents the same avenue of escape for end users. As usual, Joshua hit the nail on the head here, and perfectly articulates why I won't be buying a new FrSky product and will instead purchase this updated T16 model. And I'll be making that purchase from TBS.
As soon as you said you were “committed to open source” I paused the vid to write this. JB, you’re a great ambassador for FPV. It fills me full of hope for this hobby knowing that you’re responsible & smart & won’t put up with monopolies bullying market competitors. Market competition is the driving force behind this kind of technology. 👍🏻👍🏻🤓
provide one example of a monopoly in this sector
AllegorX FPV fatshark had one for a while
Just started in this hobby. Had my T16 Pro deliverwd this week, after watching your original review, asking for internal multi module and hall effect. Very happy. Cheers Joshua from the UK!!
Martin Scott hall sensor gimbals 👌🏻
Fantastic, dude. I'm happy for you! 😃
Welcome to the club! My first radio was a Jumper t8sg , haha . It's a bit toyish, but it's cool, because it's basically a multiprotocol module with gimbals. If you can, get a simulator set up. Best thing you can do for your flying and it'll save you hundfeds if not more in crash repairs. Not that it'll keep you from crashing, but getting the first 50 out of the way by being able to hit the teset buttoj is virtually priceless. Happy flying, brother! 👍 And Hi @MC's Creations 😁
@@ledchickenfpv7164 Hey dude! 🖖😃
@@ledchickenfpv7164 hi can you recommend a laptop flight sim to use with the jumper t8sg thanks, regards, Alan
OK Joshua, you convinced me. I have used my X9D+ for the last several years and was just about to order the new 2019 version. You changed my mind. My T16 Pro is ordered today and I'm in fact excited to try the new color LCD in all its glory!
Well... It's good enough for me! 😊
I can make a 2 cell charger for 18650s with 2 TP4056, no problems. (Actually, I think I'm going to!)
To be honest, I have my X9D Plus SE and I'm pretty happy with it and I'm not going to change. But I need to buy a second radio for my father soon enough. And I totally agree, Joshua, I don't feel well buying a FrSky radio right now. So I guess I'm going to choose the T16. 😊
Oh, and FANTASTIC news about OpenTX! 😃
Joshua, you should try to partner with Jumper and release the "JB T16", it would be completely innovative as I have never seen a radio with a pilots name on it (there are a lot quad parts though, that's common now). People are looking for new radios and maybe they don't want to support Frsky because of the polemic happening right now or they don't want to have to jump the hoops to get CRSF or get a module to get D8, or they are looking for something reliable that doesn't failsafe like Spektrum or they want to support the cool guys. You could also put a sweet decal on it and have your signature, plus you are the knowitall tech guy, and having a signature radio would drive people crazy.
I really do like that idea. Premium case design, internal multiprotocol & hall effect gimbals, external charging port (even if it's just a goggle barrel adapter pass-through), maybe have them add a small external switch to turn off the screen when not in use, and that's a product I'd throw $200 at in a heartbeat.
That radio, plus your multimedia documentation on how to configure it (for ANY receiver, plus CRSF add-on) would be the standard-bearer.
cancelled my x9d+2019 order in banggood and ordered jumper t16 from aliexpress just now, Joshua you are a true messiah to us 👌🏻
After all I decided to buy a new Jumper T18. I'm an absolute beginner, my RC experience ended in the age of about 14 - 35 years ago :-) But so far I like it. I've managed to setup a model for the simulator and started flying (crashing). The Sender really feels good, and everything worked fine (You have to enable Input access for the simulator app in the preferences if you are on a Mac). Thanks for your effords Joshua
Been running the v2 t8sg, and I wouldn't even consider another tx. Even on devination I can set this radio to do everything I need. Even 14ch on ibus. Jumper has continuously brought excellent, affordable options to the hobby. Welcome to the dark side JB!
LOVE my T16!! My first radio in probably 35 years or more. Just starting quads and loving it. Thanks for all the great info JB!
At Grayson Hobby we are now EXCLUSIVE Jumper T16 distributor...the new ones have Hall sensors and the internal module. We ship DAILY!!!
That FrSky tactic you describe @5:00 sounds a lot like what Spektrum did to brick & mortar hobby shops.
My T16 just arrived from TBS! opentx-t16-2.3.2 (5c495be5) Stepping up from my much loved T12. Thanks, Joshua. You are a Boffin.
Frsky have lost my respect after their behavior. When i bought the X9D they were praised for supporting open source.
Same. I recently switched to Crossfire and I am glad I did. I didn't really "need" Crossfire per se, but I simply didn't want to support FrSky every again.
For now I am sticking with my 9XD, but once it fails, I will not repair it.
kinda brave to go full jumper publicly, i hope theres no repercussions and you still get to support everybody trying to pfaff their way through frsky nd opentx etc.
Nice. Good job Jumper, keep up fighting. And BANGGOOD: Give us this transmitter!
you can get it on xt-xinte, right now for like 130 bucks
Frsky won’t allow them to do that unfortunately :(
@@fen1x591 Nope
@@Mikeylikesit1968 yep, its 150$ but after you add it to cart and go to checkout, price goes down
I got mine from aliexpress, the name of the store is "JumperTechnology Store", they sell PRO/Plus versions already. Kinda wish I would have waited for the PRO with internal module, but I don't do crossfire, so not a big deal (:
So I started in this hobby earlier this year. I took a plunge and forked out to buy an X9D plus se after watching reviews and wanted a future proof radio not knowing what was coming with access firmware and the refresh line since I was new. Not only is my new radio now technically an old model but it also means the whole reason I bought it for future proofing is now questionable. So I did it. I bought a Jumper T16 pro a few moments ago and will be selling the X9D to fund a crossfire module and receivers for my quads. @#$% you Frsky.
I don't understand... If you intend to use a crossfire system of Rx/Tx and have no interest in the ACCESS series of Rx, what's wrong with the X9D? Sure, now you have a colour screen, but besides that, couldn't you have spent the 160$ you spent on the T16 on a Crossfire system?
It's awesome! I ditched my DX9, a supposedly better built radio, but the old school walled garden approach of Spektrum was driving me mad. I'm fairly sure you'll like the T16 a lot!
@@jacquesmaries2324 to be fair, T16 supports a lot more stuff for crossfire, such as Lua script telemetry screens that look way better on the jumper color screen, and for less $¥£.
@@jacquesmaries2324 Well I don't really want to support Frsky. I was just happy using xm+ on my quads till access rolled up now I'm not so sure I want to build my fleet with frsky receivers in them. I wasn't expecting to invest in crossfire because I don't really need it but if frsky want to close doors I'll just have to jump out
@@khylvans8459 I am not married to Frsky, and may get a Jumper when my x9d dies, but not until they have a proven track record. I don't mind loosing a quad to a defective radio, but I also fly big gas planes, and I won't risk those! So I'll let you guys be the guinea pigs and will wait until more data is available :) . Regarding "closing the door" not sure what you mean : that ACCESS is not open source? Well, neither is Crossfire, or KISS or FlightOne.
Just managed to get the last T16 pro in stock on amazon! Thanks Josh!
fanily broke down and ordered and just got in and loving it. now have to learn open tx coming from spektrum. thanks Joshua
Got my T16 this week after my trusty X9D died. T16 is nice so far - but I learnt the hard way about copying over models using the OpenTX Companion - when you copy them make sure you edit each model to switch the internal and external module to "OFF" before you write them to the radio !!! Else the radio freaks and no models are written and emergency mode entered. Do the edit and write them - then once on the radio just go in and switch internal or external module on again for each model - remember to do this every time you want to use companion to edit the models ! Hopefully it will soon be ok to use companion in the normal way when the T16 is supported by OpenTX.
Thanks for fighting against this proprietary way of doing things. I love the fact that more & more Open Source Software is finding it's way to the RC Hobby! My Computer OS is Open Source and all the Applications I use are Open Source. When it's time to replace my existing Transmitter I had already decided that a Jumper TX was the way to go. See you in the Air!
I received my t16 this week and am changing over.
I switch from my X9D to the Jumpter T16 Pro and I couldn’t be happier with it. Blown away by how nice it is and I don’t think I’ll be going back to the X9D
Thanks Joshua, I have been stuck between a rock and a hard place these past few days. After a crazy lot of research this review is my final piece of information.
I am new getting into the hobby with a friend who has the older Taranis X9D Plus Transmitter, and the desicion of buying the right transmitter has been tough for me personally.
But your review on the Jumper T16 made it alot easier. My friend and I value your opinion and knowledge in this field very highly.
What are your thoughts on the new arrival of the Jumper T18?
I am finalizing my decision to buy this Transmitter.
Go tx16s not t18 - check his review too
I still love my X10S....the one you convinced me to buy when you made that one your main squeeze.
I love the X10S but I love the TBS Crossfire more. Too bad I can't use both together. I modified my old Spektrum DX9 for crossfire and use the X10S for FRSKY. Funny how Frsky crippled their flagship and shipped a royal piece of %$#@ 900Mhz R9 transmitter for free with it. Bought 2 R9 slim receivers and crashed several times before I realized it wasn't the FC but the Frsky. Using the crossfire on the same FC and flawless over 100 flights.
You can modify the X10S to work with Crossfire. The inverter mod works
Running one of the first batch T16’s with all the upgrades done and it’s been solid! Getting ready to add the URUAV 5v charge board for usb charging, crossfire takes a toll on the 18650’s. After watching your first Jumper T16 video I was sold. Thanks Mr Bardwell!
I bought my T16:Hall from rclife.co.uk it's an excellent radio. What makes this a no brainer is the unmatched price, colour screen, included multi mode module, internal and external software selectable module bays, build quality, hall effect gimbals and now open tx support! Even the battery choices is not an issue because 18650s and their chargers are commonly used for vaping, so they can be purchased at any vaping store. Any 2s battery that fits can also be used. You could go for an x9d and have a mono very low res screen but pay a lot more for a less flexible radio.
Had mine for a couple of months now and have no problems at all. Both the internal module and gimbals were easy to change and worth the money. It's a really good radio, couldn't be happier with it.
Another great point here is literally every single little board on the inside of the radio is replaceable and available from Alibaba. I’ve had things shipped from there in
you can have the screen turn off by timer and hit any button it will come back on. Mine does that. You just need to set it to do that.
Flyer-rcplane I’ll need to do that. I think I see the option under backlight now
@@jordan1991r just turn it all the way down too.
You can use x10 widgets I believe.
Joshua Bardwell yeah, not seen many in action!
Got mine at heli nation as a Birthday present to myself, now to get my spektrum planes working well with it too, binding is easy but channel output programming is taking some time. Keep up the videos on this radio as you set it up, I would love tips and tricks, maybe a better battery life technique as well. 👍
That's great news! Good luck Jumper.
Sent back a X9 Lite and X9d plus and got a T16. Binds instantly to anything!
My first radio the T12, originally upon purchase didn't bind with most of my quads. Before years end Bugs 3, JXD 506G, Bayang X16 and the AirHogs USS Enterprise. Plays Tetris and runs the LUA scripts that even my Jumper T16 doesn't. I have JST, Jumper 4 in 1 and R9M modules which lets me switch between the smaller T12 and T16 without re binding. Point being there is a lot of effort going on to support this radio. Jumper radios have the most capability, diversity and are very exciting to own. Also thx to the Deviation team too.
If anyones having issues using the radio with a simulater on windows 10, heres something you can try.
1. Plug in the radio, you should hear the sound when something gets pluuged in, thats a good sign
2. On your windows search bar, search for device manager
3. Plug in your radio and click usb joystick
It should now pop up im the device manager
4. It should be under better_usb_hs
Right click it and update the driver. Click browse my computer for software.
Let me pick from a list.
Finally select usb input device.
There you go, it should be working now
How Jumper responded to you.....very impressive! Frsky better worry! Great review!
Love mine too! Been using it since three months. Simply awesome
I know I'm late to this video...was looking at the T16 and it lead me here... What was said in the video makes a lot of sense. If what was said is true, I am surprised how much power FrSky has in the market...and I would be less inclined to buy FrSky in the future. The jumper T16 seems like what a radio offering SHOULD be...having options. Making the hobby less about getting roped into a proprietary eco system and more about buying cool models to fly.
I have to agree with you on this one. I think it is time people start moving away from FrSky due to their business tactics. At least for anyone who is looking for a new radio, they should consider something like the Jumper or other non-frsky radios. Or , if you opt for the DJI FPV system, their radio is OK too, though I really wish it came in a game controller style form factor.
yeah game style and D8 mode would be perfect. although gonna miss audio call outs.
Well that's you blacklisted by frsky 😂😂. Strange how you have made this video now as I have been thinking of moving over to jumper for the past couple of weeks. You just reassured me it's a good move. Thank you.
I literally was only waiting to find out why it wasn't JBs daily radio. He said it would be if... Then, if happened. So, I wondered what the hold up was. I'm in.
It would be nice if ALL vendors collaborated and called Frskys bluff. I'm betting if all the major vendors said "go for it frsky, pull your product" FrSky would have to cave or go bankrupt
My thought exactly. Nobody is bigger than everybody.
I love the "FPV is not a job" shirt
Ya mean.... fpv is not a crime?
The shirt says FPV is not a crime.
@@FpvBerget bit of banter mate
@@JoshuaBardwell i know Joshua, I was just teasing ya 😉
I really like my JumperT16. It works Great for my Bayang tiny whoops and my EMAX Tinyhawk Freestyle with FrSky compatible receiver. For me it works fine just the way it is. When I get to long range, Crossfire will be my choice and I don't mind changing the module (for now). In the future I will likely upgrade the gimbals and maybe even put in the internal module kit. I am also glad to hear that the Open Source crew has realized that, by design, open source should run on ANY compatible radio. Thanks Joshua.
I am just getting started and I appreciate everything JB does here. I have learned so much. Sadly, Grayson Hobby is back ordered and I need a radio now! I am coming from RC cars/trucks. I am learning to do all the correct steps and I believe a quality radio is the best starting point.
Jumper is raising fast.
I've got my T12 plus (basically due to backpack / form factor reasons) less than one year ago, I've struggled a bit to make my R9M module compatible but what I have now is a cheap, well done and reliable TX system.
I'm absolutely satisfied about this brand.
I've been waiting for your opinion, now my daily driver just found one! Thank you!!!
Ordered after watching this my t16 , lokking for a good rc that is also not too expensive. Thumbs up👍👍
I'm really glad that I didn't get a FrSky radio, to be completely honest. I hate Apple for the same reason. They want to use their position in the market to get their way and it doesn't matter who they stomp on in the process. I don't have a Jumper radio, but I do have the Nirvana and have been 100% happy with it from day one. Support has been reliable because of 3rd party developers and the radio works great.
Heli-Nation has the T-16 Pro. I'm now seriously considering buying it to replace my QX7.
Yeah, qx7 needs a mod to run crossfire and all that crap. And is updating the firmware on it going to make it less useful down the line?
good idea, I've done it, and I'm happy with it.
Some people love to fly in different type of environments with probably require different type of receivers-transmitter, that's why i love your statement that this hobby is about openness.. good job Joshua
Just ordered one. Just bought a dx6e 6 months ago. Got into drones shortly after. Hope I like it. Been a Spektrum guy since they came out.
I just ordered one and it is going to be my daily driver as well i'm moving away from taranis because I know there not gonna support crossfire anymore.
While looking if the 2019 x9d would carry on excluding crossfire, i saw UAVFutures' video on the T16 Pro, and he said it was good, new king, but didn't mention anything about the issues w/ FCC , openTX , which really should be the ONLY topics in a T16 update video !?
Hearing the real issues seem to be worked out is such a relief, Thank you JB ! Looks like i might be getting my first real radio soon !
Ordered (via affiliate link, of course)!! Looking forward to having more options than my DX6E gives me!
Im Jumping off the FrSky bandwagon primarily based on their actions in the industry. While I have enjoyed my Taranis X9D for over 3 years now, been through 6 gimbals, changed out my antenna connector, etc. & generally been happy with it. I don't believe their product is THAT good. I am glad you've brought up the Jumper T16, as well as giving us a list of links. FrSky, *shrug* stop trying to be Apple. It sucks to suck.
I just hope the jumper guys make a big enough wave to humble the frsky guys a bit. I use a frsky qx7 with crossfire and the mod required cost me a radio so far. so I'd like to see frsky back again with their quality and compatibility in upcoming radio's. Or my next one sure Is a jumper!
No doubt! My next radio is Jumper T16
XT-Xinte also carries the T16 Plus. Right now you can get it for $133 shipped (gotta add it to cart for price to change)
I just bought one, should show up next week.
It looks as though they only have mode 1 t16 plus?
Well now they have the new jumper 18 pro with 915mhz capable. Geez. We need videos lol. I know there coming. Looking forward to it. Thanks in advance 😊
Say what you say do what you do. Thanks for this video. I appreciate you using your clout to discourage bad business practices
For me too, the pro version whit halleffect gimbals, and crossfire, great radio especially now whit the new internal.
Thank you Joshua , I was thinking about the freesky radio, now I know I am not going to go after it! I will try the Jumper t16, thank you sir, as always I learned some thing watching your vid's! :) once Again Thank you !
I’ve had this controller for 3 months now. Awesome josh. I’m hooked to it. Thanks for this video josh
Allo Joshua , I am still thinking I am new to the hobby and I like to spend my money very wisely so that my gear last for a very long time .For that reason when I learned about FrSky bullying ( yes that's what I call what they're doing ) resselers about Jumper and thought that this was a wise money investment (Multi-Protocol = 1 to run them all ) my decision was easy FrSky is now for me O U T PERNEMANENTLY !! I am very happy that Jumper has upgraded T16 to your suggestions ( & FPV Comunnity ) now I can spot a order for what I am almost certain is the last RC I will invest on , I am almost there now a bit more waiting for the Orca's and I will be set .Thank You so much for all you do for us , Cheers from up north Montreal Qc
I'm really glad I got T16+ when it was released, it was much more than worth the price even with those few cons and now literally all of them are resolved. I was disappointed with lack of internal module and almost didn't buy it, but the amount of people buying the it is probably what let them finally fulfil their plans.
BTW UnmannedTechShop sells it (as well as the new internal board) in UK and FPV24 sells it in Germany if you're from EU. They both still manage to sell FrSky products somehow.
I just bought the T16 Pro, a few months after this video to be sure, but this was the start. I'm all Spektrum right now, and frankly, OpenTx looks like a Commodore 64 in comparison. But Spectrum suffered the same fate Frsky is going to suffer... over- protecting without allowing for outside compatibility. And certain manufacturers ( Emax, I'm looking at you ), are only releasing products for Frsky ( Tinyhawk, etc. ) .
Nice! I bought a T16 Hall when it first came available, but haven't used waiting for clean OpenTX/Companion support. (I have plenty of other OTX radios to use in the meantime)
Hey Josh well said I was going to make a long comment but u said it all we just want good stuff for good place and what frsky did it's just disrespectful for all of us who have a frsky radio, I m switching too .hey jumper👍👍
Alert !!! I just got the Jumper T16 Pro. To work with dsm2 and dsmx receivers BOTH internal RF and external RF have to be ON in the model setup menu. After hours trying to make it work with the internal RF only and no response I try both on and wala!! works.
That seems like a bug...
I'm realy looking forward to more Jumper T16 videos
I bought one myself two weeks ago
That is a bold move Joshua! I think you are soo right with the open sourceness etc. I am with you. Thanx for solving 2 out of 3... I am considering this as my next radio!
Just ordered my Jumper !!! 👍👍👍👍
I've watched a few of your videos, but this one made me realize I need to subscribe. What a cool radio, maybe FrSky should take tips instead of hating.
I bought the internal Jumper t16 module and put the external on to my Frsky XD9.. win win.
Hey Josh, thanks for another great video. Heli-Nation.com also sells Jumper radios. They have great support and a decent list of products.
Yep, just ordered my internal module from there and they have a T16 carbon fiber look faceplate
Heli-nation postage cost for international is too high for us in Australia . Sorry.
@@MrJarrod Yeah, they may not be for everyone since they are in the states.
You can get bulk props there too 👍
But which one? JumperTX T16. Jumper T16. Jumper XYZ T16. Jumper T16 DC7. Jumper plus. Jumper pro. Jumper hall effect?
There's about a dozed T16 radios. Which is which?
What the T16 is missing for me is a headphone jack. This is great to have when flying at an event where there's lots of noise around you. Hearing your speaker is not easy and I also wouldn't want to hear other people's battery level all the time too. Other than that, a great radio. With the headphone jack built in from the factory I guess I would buy the T16 as well.
I already switched to X fire instead of frsky 900Mhz despite the price difference, fot the same reasons as jb points out, Nice to der the community react.
Anyone have a problem with static coming out their speaker on the jumper? I got my radio today, soon as I turned it on I could hear static. Not 'loud' but noticeable. Seems to be tied to the screen. When the screen goes to sleep it gets louder, if I increase brightness it gets slightly quieter. Adjusting volume has no effect. I was so geeked up when the package arrived, then so pissed a couple hours later.
In mine, I made my own pack with 2 21700 5000 mAH cells and a 2S balance connector. I just charge it through the balance connector with a normal lipo charger.
FrSky = The new Apple of the rc hobby. Gonna get myself one of these Jumper T16 Pros .
There’s a guy on RCGroups that is selling a charger kit for the T16 including genuine LG 18650’s. For uUS sales there’s also DefienceRC
My first and only Frsky Taranis QX7 bit the dust (missed the river 1st fail safe -radio shut off-. Hit concrete from 60ft up do to another shut off).
My three quads run XM+ (not updated for RSSI...shame shame I know.)
The Jumper T16 has been in my wish list and would like to know if I would be able to easily Bind with XM+ receivers. Or if those XM+ receivers would need to be updated first.
Thanks for all you do! And thanks for everyone who helps out in the comments!
Bought my T-16 at Grayson hobby.com, out of loganville GA. Shipped it really fast. Thanks Josh.
Best closing note ever
You should review a Futaba. Lots of top racing pilots are moving on to them. I know it's out of budget for most pilots but I think it would be cool to see what a "premium" radio brings to the table.
I would be willing to give it a try. I know Futaba hardware is amazing. But the lack of OpenTX is a issue for me.
if anyone loses a vendor for supporting a product that furturises our sport or hobby then we don't need them. Same deal for DJI you guys are on notice.
T18 looks awesome it's about to release
I’m happy with my jumper t12 pro with the hall gimbals. Multi protocol built in, and same stuff crossfire capable module outside. Just a bit smaller.
think i'm going to switch too Joshua. especially now it has an internal module already installed
regards
Jon
I bought it after watching your review and others. Absolutely in love with it. What more can you ask?
I'm heavily invested in FrSky/CRSF and am not a happy camper given FrSkys direction. Right now I'm living with the DJI basic radio because I am going all in (or very nearly so) on the DJI System. Sad as it is to say, I am truly unhappy with HDO/Rapidfire now that I'm used to the HD system. My ideal setup would be an open TX radio with a DJI module in the bay. I really, really miss my CRSF modded X7S, but not so bad I'm going to give up what DJI brings to the party.
As far as my thought on brand loyalty, FrSky is lower than dirt in my list, with DJI beating them by virtue of the fact they don't have any nasty privacy invasion/geofence/check-in in their FPV line. Flysky seems to have blown it as of late with the FPV underground debacle. Jeti is overpriced and too snooty for my taste. I'd probably pay the big bucks for a Spektrum IX-12, but still no DJI and very complex internally. They may be a contender before this is over though.
A Jumper with DJI connectivity would be a great setup. Wonder who is going to be 1st with a DJI module?? They can charge pretty steep for it considering the DJI $300 price for a plain-jane TX.
I'm going to tolerate the dumb and trimless DJI Tx for the winter and see what shows up. IF(BIG IF HERE) DJI really wants into our universe, a OpenTX radio will be on the drawing board, sans geofencing and the other nasty stuff.
I'm going to try my Clearview on the DJI goggles, and just ordered a Goggle front plate that accepts the Rapidfire. I don't expect DJI performance from either, but solid video with the analog limitations might let me fly my analog stuff without retrofitting all of them (and the ones that won't carry a DJI Air module). Dreams of HD Whooping abound....
Thanks for the nice update Joshua, keep us informed on how the Jumper stands up.
Hobby-wing.com carries them as well. I bought my first bnf setup from them when i first started flying fpv. They’ve taken care of me a few times when i had issues with some products. They are really good with customer service as far as Chinese vendors go.
ALSO! You want the PRO VERSION, not PLUS VERSION. The pro version supports crossfire! The plus does not.
Awesome review! Really like the path Jumper is taking!
Wow. This seems like the radio to have if we want to bind it to anything. I like my qx7, but wished it had crossfire support out of the box, as I would like to get a quad with crossfire in the future. Now I’m stuck! 😖 thanks Frsky! Nice way to alienate your customer base
As far as I can see OpenTX 2.3.1 (released yesterday) does NOT yet contain Jumper T16 support. It seems though that this support was merged into the branch 2.3 on GitHub about 11 days ago.
I really hope that they publish an official version containing support for the T16 soon.
Old guy story... The IBM PC was the leader and there were clones. IBM decided to try and cement their position by creating a faster proprietary bus that could not be easily cloned. The clones just kept using the old bus structure and they grew. Very quickly IBM became the one with the unusual bus so nobody wanted them. Meanwhile the clones developed faster and faster bus structures and you have the brands we have today.
Sold my DX8 and made the Jump (no pun intended!) to Open Tx with Jumper. Getting used to the different programming but really loving this Tx (and its big colour screen) - and for so little money. Quite a few places stocking it in the UK :-)
While FrSky might have enough weight to bully their dealers, they cannot bully the consumer who ultimately decides how (and where) to spend their money. Jumper is the FrSky of five years ago, and FrSky recognizes that. They know what they brought to the table with the original DX9, and how they absolutely stole the market share for OpenTX users. This T16 represents the same avenue of escape for end users. As usual, Joshua hit the nail on the head here, and perfectly articulates why I won't be buying a new FrSky product and will instead purchase this updated T16 model. And I'll be making that purchase from TBS.
Yes sir I'm going to get my T16 definitely thank u for the video JB.
I have been selling these the last few months and I have not used the Taranis since. Great radio.
im selling off all of my Frsky gear and have a Jumper T16 Pro v2 pre-ordered right now!
Team jumper.. the t12 is awesome, so much better than my qx7.. the t16 will be my next radio for sure