The T15 is supported by EdgeTX as of v2.10.1, released 31st of May ;) The button layout is certainly different... but Jumper have always used a slightly different layout... the T16/T18 was the same (in being different)... RTN where you were expecting MDL. The internal SD card is much more reliable than it might sound to some people, as it is not actually just a internal MicroSD, but instead a dedicated XTSD flash memory chip, so should be much more reliable. The "6 Position" customisable switches are very powerful, as they allow you to group them however you want, and configure each button to be a momentary toggle or 2POS latching switch. EdgeTX 2.11 will make to it is also very easy to use them as a traditional 6POS switch, or 2 3POS, etc. The T14 is another interesting radio... same handset size, but B&W screen. This handset is actually a nice upgrade on the T16, and the screen is a lot easier to use now that it is no recessed.
My comment was more about my surprise at the nightly build installed from the factory. As soon as a radio is officially supported, it should be shipped from the factory with it installed. Happy flying!
@@Painless360 Indeed, that was my thoughts also. Review units are often sent / prepared before there is release firmware, as we can't make that available until after a manufacturer is ready to publicly acknowledge a new handset, so perhaps that is the case here also.
Will be a nice upgrade from T16 if T15 had at least one shoulder slider. If they can put it into the T20 why not here 😢 then there will be truly multi purpose radio that I want.
I have never been too interested in smaller radios, but this one seems well thought out and rather appealing. I kind of like the colour trend too. These are instruments for having fun, so why should they need to be grey? Thanks for bringing the T15 to our attention!
Nice Tx, but for most Pocket is enough. Enough switches which you can't damage. Screen on a small side, but Inav lua saved me once when walksnail tx overheated. Recently my Pocket got into failsafe at 12km and dynamic 100mW, but that's enough for me in glorious HD. Happy flying !!!
@@ceziukozak The pocket is a nice radio (I have two of them), but one failing they have is the shoulder switches tend to go faulty after a while .. the switch loading makes it so they very easily make contact, or even bounce with some movement, resulting in some weird and wonderful "ghost in the machine" results... "Disarmed" "Armed"... WTH?! didn't even touch the button?!... thankfully it is usually just intermittent like that, and you can see the switch led flash and flicker the same. I have a flying buddy working to modify his with toggle switches though. 🤣
I have been using the TX16s Max MCK edition for almost 2 years now and love it. Someone would have to come out with some kind of epic radio for me to replace it.
The antenna cover will separate if it is flexed too much, as it is only held together by the centre hub. If you don't want it to, you can put a drop of superglue on the locator pins on each end to make it stay closed up. Jumper have been using this same antenna shell since the TPro (although the first version couldn't rotate for vertical orientation, only fold out from the handset) and it seems to have held up on all the radios I have, even when being used as a carry handle! 😆
I have been using my T15 for a few weeks now. There are differences between your unit and mine. The gimbals on mine look like VS-M gimbals except that they appear to be all plastic without the shiny trim accents. EdgeTX 2.10.2 supports this radio and I updated it immedately after I received it. I had to use the top right switch as my arm switch and that took a little getting used to after having used the RM TX16S and previously, the Taranis X9D. And it is all to easy to accidentally knuckle-disarm while moving the sticks if you are a pincher like I am. So I 3D-printed a guard that hopefully fixes that. One of my favourite features is the 6 customizable switches. Much more useful than the Radiomaster implementation. Unfortunately, the iNav Telemetry Lua script does not work on this radio and crashes it, putting it into Emergency Mode, But I suppose there will be support eventually.
How are your gimbals? Any jitter issues, or not staying centered after calibrating? I just got the T14 with the plastic gimbals, same internals as the "CNC" ones I believe, and I just started having issues. Sucks, because I really like the ergonomics of the radio, and actually like the smaller, lighter gimbals.
@@Greg__K The T15 has been my sole TX for the last month and a half. I actually like the plastic gimbals. No significant jitter at centre save the occasional plus or minus 1. Calibration has not been necessary even through hot and cool days. The one very occasional issue is that the touch screen does not work after power up. An immediate power-cycle always fixes it.
@@dingr I like the gimbals a lot, but one of them is definitely defective. It jitters from 0 to -6, then it’ll stick at 100, or bounce around randomly all over the place. Thankfully, I discovered this while flying in the sim and not my actual quad. I’ve owned several radios over the years, I’ve never seen this before. Otherwise I love the radio, the ergonomics are exactly what I was looking for. The problem now is that it’s hard to trust the gimbals, even if I replace it. Sounds like it’s not very common though, so maybe I just got unlucky.
@@IDrone-l5m if a new model is similar to one I already have, I just make a duplicate and modify from there. Otherwise, I always set up a new model manually. I have never used a wizard. As for the TX firmware, I use EdgeTX buddy on a Chrome browser. But you have to put the radio in DFU mode to do it this way.
Crossfire module will only fit if you remove it from the JR module from the crossfire tx then reinstall it back in. If the handle were a little bigger there would be no problem. It could then be installed as one unit. I have so much crossfire equipment it will be a while before I switch completely to ELRS.
I actually own this radio, so I am not just talking about it, and the only thing about it is that the LUA support for it is limited with Inav telemetry options. All the full-size radios, like the TX16S, etc., dominate the LUA telemetry addons in Github. This radio is not compatible with those LUA's. Most LUA programs will not work with the screen size of the T15 (480×320 resolution). I like the radio, but it will take time for the LUA developers to take an interest in it by creating LUA 's that are compatible with it. Because at this point, the radio is kinda like the redheaded stepchild in the RC family room.
Thanks Lee, I really like this one! I'm trying to get back into the hobby after 15 years away flying only DJI drones. I want to have a serious play with Ardupilot for wings and I have so many questions about flight modes/telemetry etc, etc... It's all new to me as my last radio was a Sanwa RD6000! Would the Jumper be a good starter choice for use with Ardupilot and mission planner? Can you suggest a good flight controller for an electric glider (e-Hawk 1500) that I already have from back in the day? It's a V-tail. Do you fly at a club site, because I think I'm (very) close to your location and having club knowledge would be a great help. Cheers Mark
This is a solid, modern basic radio but I'd prefer something from RadioMaster as their quality, support, spares and aftercare seem to be a little better. Ardupilot is good for wings, but INAV is too and can be a lot easier to setup - see my recent builds using both. I don't fly at clubs as I'm yet to find one that welcomes 'drones, flight contrlller and FPV' ;) Lee
@@Painless360 Isn't that just the original battery holder that comes in the Jumper T 15? A quick question about batteries if you don't mind, you say that you are using two 18650 instead of two 21700, how much run time do you get out of the 18650 a couple of hours or what? TIA John C
Thanks for sharing. You give your opinions about the new radio, but not so much about the enhancements over the T16(S). How do you think it betters the T16?
The T16 has been around for a while with lots of videos on it that you can rewatch. This radio is smaller and lighter with most of the same features. This more compact form factor seems to be the layout that most vendors are following now, and the Jumper T16 is dead... Happy flying!
@@Painless360 That was quick - thank you! How about the Radiomaster T16S Mk2 - it still seems to be listed in many places, but I guess this could be the stock in the system running down? I don't think I recognised the distinction between Jumper and Radiomaster stuff before - I thought they were one and the same.
They developed the initial version of the T16/TX16 radio design together and then split over some fundamental differences on how the quality, support, and lifecycle of RC products should be handled. Very different companies... Happy flying
No easy access to the SD Card seems to be an oversight. Being able to swap buttons for switches, or maybe just add the switches to the circular holes where the rubber bungs are, is a good idea.
@@PiDsPagePrototypes It's not an oversight, but rather a deliberate design change for pretty much all Jumper radios since either the Tprov2 or T20. There is no SD card at all, but rather a XTSD chip on the main board. Has all the wear leveling logic to make it more reliable than most SD cards, and no faulty/intermittent SD connectors to ruin your day.
. got a Jumper T-Lite for a Bench Radio for ELRS setups .. this one would be a GREAT ELRS Field Radio .. I like Yellow lol .. Ali as low as 137 USD ... Cheers !
This is an ExpressLRS radio. You need a multiprotocol radio to talk to stuff like that. You can add a Multiprotocol module (MPM) into the back of this radio if you need that. See th-cam.com/video/DfKyx0yTbXU/w-d-xo.html
The only gripe i have is all radios are default Mode 2 and I fly mode 1 . Changing modes is annoying and should be able to order mode 1 from the factory.
I wish more car manufacturers watched this Channel. An RC transmitter needs to be capable of being operated by touch alone, so that the pilot can keep his eyes (and attention) on the model - which may at times be a very valuable speck in the sky. Look away and you've lost it. The locations of analogue buttons, sliders, switches and knobs can be learned very quickly and committed to muscle memory so that the pilot doesn't have to look down at safety-critical moments. That's not the case in most modern cars. Equipping them with attention-grabbing touch-screen displays may well be more opulent and 'futuristicky' than installing banks of buttons and switches - and also a lot cheaper to manufacture - but touch-screens are most definitely not a better way of controlling a ground vehicle operating in traffic. Great for jet airliners, lousy for cars. Anything that takes a driver's attention off the road is a bad thing. If you think it isn't (because you're such a brilliant driver 🙄), think about everyone else on the road who's not as great as you are. Think of the muffin behind you, too preoccupied with moving icons to stop when you do. Or the one approaching you from the opposite direction at 60 mph and looking for the electric seat adjustment controls. Or the one too busy scrolling through menus to avoid knocking someone off their bike. Installing fancy cruise-control is not a solution because it gives drivers a false sense of security. When (when, not if) the system malfunctions, the driver's mind isn't where it needs to be. Roads are built for people, not for vehicles; the safest and most adaptable thing on any road is an alert human driver. It'd be nice if car manufacturers took a leaf out of the RC Tx designer's manual and went back to analogue controls.
@@Painless360 oh man. pretty much planned obsolescence. every softtouch device I ever owned has transformed into a sticky mess that nobody wants to touch.
@@derrogersWhen he says soft touch, it doesn't have that coating that goes gooey, still a hard plastic. i.e. unlike the tlite it won't stick to everything in a few years 🤣 (thankfully I found a rubber sleeve for that radio before it went sticky, which has saved it).
we seem to be going backwards, radios with only one protocol. I'll stick with my tx16s. at least then I can still fly all my models that are not express lrs (or what ever the latest flavour or new hot fad is) without having to add a multi protocol module in the back bay
The T15 is supported by EdgeTX as of v2.10.1, released 31st of May ;) The button layout is certainly different... but Jumper have always used a slightly different layout... the T16/T18 was the same (in being different)... RTN where you were expecting MDL. The internal SD card is much more reliable than it might sound to some people, as it is not actually just a internal MicroSD, but instead a dedicated XTSD flash memory chip, so should be much more reliable. The "6 Position" customisable switches are very powerful, as they allow you to group them however you want, and configure each button to be a momentary toggle or 2POS latching switch. EdgeTX 2.11 will make to it is also very easy to use them as a traditional 6POS switch, or 2 3POS, etc. The T14 is another interesting radio... same handset size, but B&W screen. This handset is actually a nice upgrade on the T16, and the screen is a lot easier to use now that it is no recessed.
My comment was more about my surprise at the nightly build installed from the factory. As soon as a radio is officially supported, it should be shipped from the factory with it installed. Happy flying!
@@Painless360 Indeed, that was my thoughts also. Review units are often sent / prepared before there is release firmware, as we can't make that available until after a manufacturer is ready to publicly acknowledge a new handset, so perhaps that is the case here also.
Will be a nice upgrade from T16 if T15 had at least one shoulder slider. If they can put it into the T20 why not here 😢 then there will be truly multi purpose radio that I want.
Fantastic review, Lee! Thanks a bunch! 😃
Pretty tempting radio indeed!
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Looks very cool thanks for showing us Lee!
I have never been too interested in smaller radios, but this one seems well thought out and rather appealing. I kind of like the colour trend too. These are instruments for having fun, so why should they need to be grey? Thanks for bringing the T15 to our attention!
Nice Tx, but for most Pocket is enough. Enough switches which you can't damage. Screen on a small side, but Inav lua saved me once when walksnail tx overheated. Recently my Pocket got into failsafe at 12km and dynamic 100mW, but that's enough for me in glorious HD. Happy flying !!!
@@ceziukozak The pocket is a nice radio (I have two of them), but one failing they have is the shoulder switches tend to go faulty after a while .. the switch loading makes it so they very easily make contact, or even bounce with some movement, resulting in some weird and wonderful "ghost in the machine" results... "Disarmed" "Armed"... WTH?! didn't even touch the button?!... thankfully it is usually just intermittent like that, and you can see the switch led flash and flicker the same. I have a flying buddy working to modify his with toggle switches though. 🤣
I have been using the TX16s Max MCK edition for almost 2 years now and love it. Someone would have to come out with some kind of epic radio for me to replace it.
Yep still waiting for a true TX16s successor
this has touch screen etc but it does not support all the protocols like the tx16, it is not a good successor
Thanks for the review and your 2 sense.
Looks really nice, finally we got alot of colours too choose from like Radiomaster. 🙂
08:55 did the antena really split? 😱 it is a nice radio but that tells a lot about the quality of jumper products. Thanks for reviewing mate.
The antenna cover will separate if it is flexed too much, as it is only held together by the centre hub. If you don't want it to, you can put a drop of superglue on the locator pins on each end to make it stay closed up. Jumper have been using this same antenna shell since the TPro (although the first version couldn't rotate for vertical orientation, only fold out from the handset) and it seems to have held up on all the radios I have, even when being used as a carry handle! 😆
@@pfeerick thanks for thr explanation brother. Makes sense
Thanks for the review.
Is it possible to turn off the button lights ?
I have been using my T15 for a few weeks now. There are differences between your unit and mine. The gimbals on mine look like VS-M gimbals except that they appear to be all plastic without the shiny trim accents. EdgeTX 2.10.2 supports this radio and I updated it immedately after I received it. I had to use the top right switch as my arm switch and that took a little getting used to after having used the RM TX16S and previously, the Taranis X9D. And it is all to easy to accidentally knuckle-disarm while moving the sticks if you are a pincher like I am. So I 3D-printed a guard that hopefully fixes that. One of my favourite features is the 6 customizable switches. Much more useful than the Radiomaster implementation. Unfortunately, the iNav Telemetry Lua script does not work on this radio and crashes it, putting it into Emergency Mode, But I suppose there will be support eventually.
How are your gimbals? Any jitter issues, or not staying centered after calibrating? I just got the T14 with the plastic gimbals, same internals as the "CNC" ones I believe, and I just started having issues. Sucks, because I really like the ergonomics of the radio, and actually like the smaller, lighter gimbals.
@@Greg__K The T15 has been my sole TX for the last month and a half. I actually like the plastic gimbals. No significant jitter at centre save the occasional plus or minus 1. Calibration has not been necessary even through hot and cool days. The one very occasional issue is that the touch screen does not work after power up. An immediate power-cycle always fixes it.
@@dingr I like the gimbals a lot, but one of them is definitely defective. It jitters from 0 to -6, then it’ll stick at 100, or bounce around randomly all over the place. Thankfully, I discovered this while flying in the sim and not my actual quad.
I’ve owned several radios over the years, I’ve never seen this before. Otherwise I love the radio, the ergonomics are exactly what I was looking for.
The problem now is that it’s hard to trust the gimbals, even if I replace it. Sounds like it’s not very common though, so maybe I just got unlucky.
@@IDrone-l5m if a new model is similar to one I already have, I just make a duplicate and modify from there. Otherwise, I always set up a new model manually. I have never used a wizard. As for the TX firmware, I use EdgeTX buddy on a Chrome browser. But you have to put the radio in DFU mode to do it this way.
Crossfire module will only fit if you remove it from the JR module from the crossfire tx then reinstall it back in. If the handle were a little bigger there would be no problem. It could then be installed as one unit. I have so much crossfire equipment it will be a while before I switch completely to ELRS.
I actually own this radio, so I am not just talking about it, and the only thing about it is that the LUA support for it is limited with Inav telemetry options. All the full-size radios, like the TX16S, etc., dominate the LUA telemetry addons in Github. This radio is not compatible with those LUA's. Most LUA programs will not work with the screen size of the T15 (480×320 resolution). I like the radio, but it will take time for the LUA developers to take an interest in it by creating LUA 's that are compatible with it. Because at this point, the radio is kinda like the redheaded stepchild in the RC family room.
Looks like a solid radio. Any purely cnc gimbals for this thing? Currently use the Mambo, but I'd love edgeTX and a full color display
They say full CNC gimbals are in the making.
Thanks Lee, I really like this one! I'm trying to get back into the hobby after 15 years away flying only DJI drones. I want to have a serious play with Ardupilot for wings and I have so many questions about flight modes/telemetry etc, etc... It's all new to me as my last radio was a Sanwa RD6000! Would the Jumper be a good starter choice for use with Ardupilot and mission planner? Can you suggest a good flight controller for an electric glider (e-Hawk 1500) that I already have from back in the day? It's a V-tail. Do you fly at a club site, because I think I'm (very) close to your location and having club knowledge would be a great help. Cheers Mark
This is a solid, modern basic radio but I'd prefer something from RadioMaster as their quality, support, spares and aftercare seem to be a little better.
Ardupilot is good for wings, but INAV is too and can be a lot easier to setup - see my recent builds using both.
I don't fly at clubs as I'm yet to find one that welcomes 'drones, flight contrlller and FPV' ;)
Lee
I wish the internal ELRS modules in these radios would specifiy if they come with TXCO or not
They are TXCO acording to madstech tear down of the 2.4 version.
@@tomthetinker99 thats good to know, thanks man! Wish it were explicitly documented
Looking good, but.... Does the elrs module have CE so we can use it legally within the EU? I Can't find that information anyhere.
Nice review!! Where did you get the 2S 18650 caddy with the balance connector shown in this video?
Ebay... Happy flying
@@Painless360 Isn't that just the original battery holder that comes in the Jumper T 15?
A quick question about batteries if you don't mind, you say that you are using two 18650 instead of two 21700, how much run time do you get out of the 18650 a couple of hours or what?
TIA John C
Thanks for sharing. You give your opinions about the new radio, but not so much about the enhancements over the T16(S). How do you think it betters the T16?
The T16 has been around for a while with lots of videos on it that you can rewatch. This radio is smaller and lighter with most of the same features. This more compact form factor seems to be the layout that most vendors are following now, and the Jumper T16 is dead... Happy flying!
@@Painless360 That was quick - thank you! How about the Radiomaster T16S Mk2 - it still seems to be listed in many places, but I guess this could be the stock in the system running down? I don't think I recognised the distinction between Jumper and Radiomaster stuff before - I thought they were one and the same.
They developed the initial version of the T16/TX16 radio design together and then split over some fundamental differences on how the quality, support, and lifecycle of RC products should be handled. Very different companies... Happy flying
Can you advise where to get the shoulder plates to convert to standard switches? and the switches?
If I find somewhere, I'll share... Happy flying
Quality vid bro 👍
for me, the best of this tx is that is going to make the T14 cheaper.
Love the big colour screen. The Boxer should have been the same.
No easy access to the SD Card seems to be an oversight. Being able to swap buttons for switches, or maybe just add the switches to the circular holes where the rubber bungs are, is a good idea.
@@PiDsPagePrototypes It's not an oversight, but rather a deliberate design change for pretty much all Jumper radios since either the Tprov2 or T20. There is no SD card at all, but rather a XTSD chip on the main board. Has all the wear leveling logic to make it more reliable than most SD cards, and no faulty/intermittent SD connectors to ruin your day.
@@PiDsPagePrototypes I think the rubber bungs are actually for two normal antenna, but you can probably modify it to accept toggle switches there.
does anybody know the thumbnail size for the model photos that T15 uses ?
I'd copy one of the existing ones off the radio and check it's size... Happy flying
@@Painless360 well, that was my thought, but there were no images in the images folder, except for the readme file.
@@Painless360 trial and error suggests the size to be 213 x 142 , if anybody is curious.
Very nice radio 👍
. got a Jumper T-Lite for a Bench Radio for ELRS setups .. this one would be a GREAT ELRS Field Radio .. I like Yellow lol .. Ali as low as 137 USD ... Cheers !
Does anyone know if the gimbal stick ends are m3 or m4?
M3
Sexy compact radio. New favorite
A quick question will this fly the eflite bnf airplanes new to this radio.
Thanks
This is an ExpressLRS radio. You need a multiprotocol radio to talk to stuff like that. You can add a Multiprotocol module (MPM) into the back of this radio if you need that. See th-cam.com/video/DfKyx0yTbXU/w-d-xo.html
@@Painless360
Thank you would like a new radio but don’t want spectrum
So I guess this one and the new crusher I can’t.
The only gripe i have is all radios are default Mode 2 and I fly mode 1 . Changing modes is annoying and should be able to order mode 1 from the factory.
Can’t you change the mode in the radio menu? I know mine has it.
@@brandonbell359 That's one step .The throttle is on the right side for mode 1 so mechanically it has be changed.
@@winstonsmith7801 oh yeah. The spring. Forgot about that.
I wish more car manufacturers watched this Channel. An RC transmitter needs to be capable of being operated by touch alone, so that the pilot can keep his eyes (and attention) on the model - which may at times be a very valuable speck in the sky. Look away and you've lost it.
The locations of analogue buttons, sliders, switches and knobs can be learned very quickly and committed to muscle memory so that the pilot doesn't have to look down at safety-critical moments.
That's not the case in most modern cars.
Equipping them with attention-grabbing touch-screen displays may well be more opulent and 'futuristicky' than installing banks of buttons and switches - and also a lot cheaper to manufacture - but touch-screens are most definitely not a better way of controlling a ground vehicle operating in traffic. Great for jet airliners, lousy for cars.
Anything that takes a driver's attention off the road is a bad thing. If you think it isn't (because you're such a brilliant driver 🙄), think about everyone else on the road who's not as great as you are. Think of the muffin behind you, too preoccupied with moving icons to stop when you do.
Or the one approaching you from the opposite direction at 60 mph and looking for the electric seat adjustment controls.
Or the one too busy scrolling through menus to avoid knocking someone off their bike.
Installing fancy cruise-control is not a solution because it gives drivers a false sense of security. When (when, not if) the system malfunctions, the driver's mind isn't where it needs to be.
Roads are built for people, not for vehicles; the safest and most adaptable thing on any road is an alert human driver. It'd be nice if car manufacturers took a leaf out of the RC Tx designer's manual and went back to analogue controls.
Nice
is the shell simple hard-plastic or that rubbery-soft-touch?
Slightly soft touch, see my comments on that in the video... Happy flying!
@@Painless360 oh man. pretty much planned obsolescence. every softtouch device I ever owned has transformed into a sticky mess that nobody wants to touch.
@@derrogersWhen he says soft touch, it doesn't have that coating that goes gooey, still a hard plastic. i.e. unlike the tlite it won't stick to everything in a few years 🤣 (thankfully I found a rubber sleeve for that radio before it went sticky, which has saved it).
What's the deal with those razor sharp sticks? Looks like a torture device, certainly doesn't look comfortable.
No slip, and no fingerprints after a flying day! :D
@@Painless360pretty comical response giving your name. 🤣 lol
we seem to be going backwards, radios with only one protocol. I'll stick with my tx16s. at least then I can still fly all my models that are not express lrs (or what ever the latest flavour or new hot fad is) without having to add a multi protocol module in the back bay
Or, beat of both worlds: external module with either expresslrs or multi protocol, depending on your internal rf module
Horrible take.