If you ever do an SSD upgrade video, here's a couple additional things for the Cloud Recovery to bring up: 1. After installing a new SSD it resets the BIOS date and clock for some reason. After booting into BIOS, BEFORE you go into advanced mode, you MUST set the time/date to the current one. Otherwise Cloud Recovery will halt without error message on the "Cloud Recovery" screen with the little "checking" popup with the rotating loading circle, you can see the one I'm talking about right after the black screen with the white "Loading..." text at 3:14. 2. If a user has a micro sd card in their Ally, that NEEDS TO BE REMOVED, otherwise Cloud Recovery will halt on a blue screen. The blue screen I'm talking about can be seen for 14 frames around 4:37 after the "Loading files ..." progress bar, right before the "Preparing Deploy HDI" popup. If someone gets stuck there, just removing the micro sd card and waiting for a couple seconds will progress the recovery just fine, but it's probably easier to just straight up tell people to get rid of their micro sd for the duration of the Cloud Recovery and plop it back in once everything is setup and running again. ASUS did a great job overall but I really wish they would have implemented error messages for these... obscure road bumps, so users knew how to fix them without having to search forums on the net like I just did. ---- Another thing worth mentioning, Cloud Recovery doesn't install the latest software, it's based on an older snapshot that's probably a couple months out of date. This means users have to update Armory Crate, the "My ASUS" components and Windows itself manually after the finished Cloud Recovery to be fully up to speed on all software and security updates. --- Bonus tip: If you have a USB-C hub with an ethernet port you can skip the wifi setup completely, Cloud Recovery will simply use the hardwired internet on the hub without even prompting for wifi. I'd make my own video about it but you've got the bigger reach and I just want this information to get to as many people as possible, so I hope you'll take it into consideration, thank you. Have a great day. ✌
Thank you so much for this! I had the exact issue with the "checking" screen and still had a SD card in the Ally 😂 Edit: I don't know if it's normal but the deploy SWPackage takes really long to load should I start again? And the screen with the message ftpm/psp corrupted or structure changed is always booting up and you can choose between two options😢😢
And what do you do when this makes your 3rd time having to run cloud recovery? Each time it installs and I shutdown my ally next boot up it doesn't find the boot. Now I get to recover again and do it all over again.
Hey guys, I've been working a lot on a VRAM test, I just couldn't get it finished today. But stay tuned, it should be finished up by tomorrow :). Also wanted to put this guide out there just in-case people need to use cloud recovery to show them how many times it restarts, and spots where it could seem like it's stuck.
@@ninhosensei Hey, this erases the device and removes everything. I’d suggest backing up those files you need to an external drive, or clone the drive. This tutorial will erase everything though, and make it like when you first bought it with nothing on it.
Also one important thing... it's a pain but it's better. Once you get the new ally, run the 512gb first, and install the bios updates. Like with the new updates the on screen keyboard works! and so much more it's smooth :). some people change it right away... but have major problems during the process, because the Bios it's not up to date.
thanks for showing the whole process! non of the other guys do that... I would be afraid and click that box. kudos man I will wait for this. I could have done a clean install much faster, but.... if asus is giving me all the software to be ready, I would rather do the cloud recovery, and update it all
Tried it on brand new ally, had bitlocker issue, luckily did not want to save any files, that was the whole point, wanted completely clean restore. It has been 80 minutes now, so slow, it downloaded it fast but the amount of reboots and install procedure is a nightmare for this cloud recovery. I now wish I just did the normal recovery from the built in recovery partition and just chose a clean install. Silly me.
It is a real pain to use the ASUS Bios. I prefer using a USB stick to re-install windows, but the wifi driver has to be loaded and isn't present upon the initial boot. So a dock with ethernet needs to be used, or a special command prompt line.
I am new to thr Rog ally i just bought one snd havent received it yet so if my question comes off as dumb i apologize. So to use this cloud recovery it isnt something that you have to save or backup bedore you donthr ssd swap correct? I am aware when doing this it basically wipes everything or starts you from scratch.
Hi, i'm trying to do the cloud recovery with erase data from windows, and while it has downloaded in about half an hour, it has only advance a 5% in more than an hour in the restoring proces....is this normal? Can i foce a shutdown and trying to do it from the bios?
I wonder what happens to the windows key during this process. Do you get assigned a new one during cloud recovery or is it associated with the serial number of the device and you get the same one back?
This makes the 3rd if not 4th time running recovery. Everytime after I get it installed and shutdown it doesn't find the boot loader. So the recovery isn't setting up the boot manager to my SSD. It reads the SSD just fine I can see it in bios.
Question. If I am having issues updating windows defender and a coupke security updates. Shall I 1. Reinstall windows. 2. Do this. Or 3. Other ? Any help wouod be great! Im using an ally X. Cheers.
I don't get the on screen keyboard. I just bought this thing and it never let me past the loading screen with the logo, I couldn't even set up anything yet. Turned Fast boot off already but nothing The Cloud recovery doesn't work as I can't type in my pasword because the keyboard is not popping up. The touchscreen also does not work
Quick question. If I were to install bazzite OS and later want to revert back to windows. Would this revert my ally back to windows? Or would I need to make a windows boot drive and install it back that way
Following the process and a "bitlocker C: recovery key" is missing popped up. Recently traded for this system and trying to figure out how to address this now 😅. Any tips?
i know that there was an issue when doing the cloud recovery with the keyboard not appearing when prompted to select the wifi network. It has been fixed now or you still have to use an external one?
The dock I have with the official charger only shows 25W in Turbo. However, it does draw 30W APU power non-stop. But it won't switch power profiles automatically which is a bummer. I'm thinking I just need to buy a 100W charger and test that out, so I'm looking into that now. However, I run manual mode 25W when plugged in anyway as the Turbo mode boost to 43W causing the system to get way too hot IMO.
@@filt3rless I agree it gets very hot and loud. But it would be nice to have the 30w feature to do more fine tuning. Amazing work mate keep it up 👍 Also where is the members link? I can’t find it.
@@everythinggucci3692 Thanks! I think it's just the "Join" button that should be next to my name. I was thinking it could be fun to do a poll for members to vote on the next video. That'd make it more fun for members to get to choose the next video and everyone still gets to see the video at the same time :)
It sounds like something is wrong with the cloud recovery. Unfortunately without seeing the device it's very difficult to troubleshoot and know what's going on. One thing you could try is if you have a USB-C to ethernet adapter, try plugging in an ethernet cable.
I cannot finish the recovery. Always stops in the cloud recovery progress [download]! Tried like 5 times and everytime it stops in a different % progress. I dont know whats going on.
Hey, just to make sure, did you see the pinned comment and try changing the time and making sure no SD Card is in the device? If that doesn't solve it, there is a possibility it could be the internet dropping out for second, or something with Asus' cloud recovery.
@@filt3rless yes I did. Unfortunately I gave up after so many tries. My last attempt would be using a cable internet connection. But I don't have a dock or a hub for this. I have no other choice rather than clone the original ssd.
@@drumam Dang, sorry to hear that. It's probably something on Asus' end. It could have even been their cloud recovery servers. I feel they have way too many steps for the recovery, and it takes far too long. When I use a USB to re-install windows it's done in about 10 minutes. But it doesn't install any drivers or Asus software so you have to have an external keyboard connected and a HUB with ethernet.
Cloud recovery will completely wipe the device back to the original out of box setup. So you will loose everything, and I wouldn't trust the Asus backup method, definitely back it up manually to the external SSD before you wipe the device.
@@filt3rless Can't be any worse than MSI bricking my old computer in the middle of the night with a forced update. The ROG ally has been a much better experience.
Yeah this don't work. Every time you try to use cloud recovery it asks you to set up secure something or other you try to do it it doesn't work it keeps on going over and over and over again.
@@crowdofone222 If it's still stuck on that screen, then I'd say hold the power button to restart it. Are you unable to get into the device? if you've loaded up windows and all drivers and everything you should be good to go.
I replaced SSD to the 2tb and after using "Cloud recovery " it finished downloading system file but after that it stuck on "checking". I restarted it to make sure the bios had the correct date and time. Waiting to see if itll get passed that screen this time.
Same here i am about to just throw the thing out and call it a day. The only reason I bought an upgraded hard drive because I watched this video and it seemed to be so easy. It's not so easy when they only give you half the steps. At least they got their views though
@@azrulshah fyi, i had to have no sd card in, I had to do this weird move to update the cloud software by selecting one of the options(I forget which) and then selecting “back”, which then created this option I think in upper right of the screen which allowed me to update the cloud backup software….AAAAAAND THEN, it still got stuck at 3%….but I left it there for at least two hours, and it jumped to like 20% or something….eventually it finished
This process is a hellish nightmare that doesn't work at all. The recovery takes 45 minutes and then fails everytime. I have spent over 10 hours trying every tip in all of these videos. It is infuriating!
Hey, have you tried doing the pinned comment steps? It looks like you have to adjust the date/time and remove the sd card. If you look at the pinned comment in this video Nikola provided detailed instructions. Hope you get it working!
If you ever do an SSD upgrade video, here's a couple additional things for the Cloud Recovery to bring up:
1. After installing a new SSD it resets the BIOS date and clock for some reason. After booting into BIOS, BEFORE you go into advanced mode, you MUST set the time/date to the current one. Otherwise Cloud Recovery will halt without error message on the "Cloud Recovery" screen with the little "checking" popup with the rotating loading circle, you can see the one I'm talking about right after the black screen with the white "Loading..." text at 3:14.
2. If a user has a micro sd card in their Ally, that NEEDS TO BE REMOVED, otherwise Cloud Recovery will halt on a blue screen. The blue screen I'm talking about can be seen for 14 frames around 4:37 after the "Loading files ..." progress bar, right before the "Preparing Deploy HDI" popup. If someone gets stuck there, just removing the micro sd card and waiting for a couple seconds will progress the recovery just fine, but it's probably easier to just straight up tell people to get rid of their micro sd for the duration of the Cloud Recovery and plop it back in once everything is setup and running again.
ASUS did a great job overall but I really wish they would have implemented error messages for these... obscure road bumps, so users knew how to fix them without having to search forums on the net like I just did.
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Another thing worth mentioning, Cloud Recovery doesn't install the latest software, it's based on an older snapshot that's probably a couple months out of date.
This means users have to update Armory Crate, the "My ASUS" components and Windows itself manually after the finished Cloud Recovery to be fully up to speed on all software and security updates.
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Bonus tip: If you have a USB-C hub with an ethernet port you can skip the wifi setup completely, Cloud Recovery will simply use the hardwired internet on the hub without even prompting for wifi.
I'd make my own video about it but you've got the bigger reach and I just want this information to get to as many people as possible, so I hope you'll take it into consideration, thank you.
Have a great day. ✌
Hey, thank you so much for the detailed write up!! This should help people out that are having issues :)
Thank you so much for this! I had the exact issue with the "checking" screen and still had a SD card in the Ally 😂 Edit: I don't know if it's normal but the deploy SWPackage takes really long to load should I start again? And the screen with the message ftpm/psp corrupted or structure changed is always booting up and you can choose between two options😢😢
And what do you do when this makes your 3rd time having to run cloud recovery? Each time it installs and I shutdown my ally next boot up it doesn't find the boot. Now I get to recover again and do it all over again.
😅😅😅😅😅
Thaaaanks 🫡
No BS tutorial. It’s rare these days. Thank you.
You saved my life, man. Ally was stuck in a boot loop/black screen of death. Tried this out and it worked like a charm. Thank you so very much.
Was it a failed update? I've just had that thing with mine I hope this thing helps 🙏
@DiogoFontes23 I honestly have no idea. One day I fired it up and it just didn't work. But this totally worked.
Hey guys, I've been working a lot on a VRAM test, I just couldn't get it finished today. But stay tuned, it should be finished up by tomorrow :). Also wanted to put this guide out there just in-case people need to use cloud recovery to show them how many times it restarts, and spots where it could seem like it's stuck.
He cloud copies all my ssd? With games and programs?
@@ninhosensei Hey, this erases the device and removes everything. I’d suggest backing up those files you need to an external drive, or clone the drive. This tutorial will erase everything though, and make it like when you first bought it with nothing on it.
Great video thanks! Came in clutch after your latest video I’m doing a fresh start on my ally with all the tips/tricks you listed
Also one important thing... it's a pain but it's better. Once you get the new ally, run the 512gb first, and install the bios updates. Like with the new updates the on screen keyboard works! and so much more it's smooth :). some people change it right away... but have major problems during the process, because the Bios it's not up to date.
Just upgraded my og ally 2tb , works great with this cloud recovery! Thanks for guide mate!
thanks for showing the whole process! non of the other guys do that... I would be afraid and click that box. kudos man I will wait for this. I could have done a clean install much faster, but.... if asus is giving me all the software to be ready, I would rather do the cloud recovery, and update it all
Tried it on brand new ally, had bitlocker issue, luckily did not want to save any files, that was the whole point, wanted completely clean restore. It has been 80 minutes now, so slow, it downloaded it fast but the amount of reboots and install procedure is a nightmare for this cloud recovery. I now wish I just did the normal recovery from the built in recovery partition and just chose a clean install. Silly me.
It is a real pain to use the ASUS Bios. I prefer using a USB stick to re-install windows, but the wifi driver has to be loaded and isn't present upon the initial boot. So a dock with ethernet needs to be used, or a special command prompt line.
If I'm right this downloads everything including all the drivers, am I correct?
I am new to thr Rog ally i just bought one snd havent received it yet so if my question comes off as dumb i apologize. So to use this cloud recovery it isnt something that you have to save or backup bedore you donthr ssd swap correct? I am aware when doing this it basically wipes everything or starts you from scratch.
Hi, i'm trying to do the cloud recovery with erase data from windows, and while it has downloaded in about half an hour, it has only advance a 5% in more than an hour in the restoring proces....is this normal? Can i foce a shutdown and trying to do it from the bios?
Take out sd card
Thank you for your help 🙏👍
My cloud recovery stoped on 50%. More then 2 hours what can i do:(
How long would it take complete the process
can i use touch screen???,m d-pad somehow ‘s not working anymore 😢
But how do you make the cloud back up?
This is just to erase the device and restore it back to factory settings. I'd use an external hard drive to backup your data.
I wonder what happens to the windows key during this process. Do you get assigned a new one during cloud recovery or is it associated with the serial number of the device and you get the same one back?
it’s associated with the device. So pretty much all computers now have the key embedded in the BIOS so you don’t need to worry about activation :)
@@filt3rlessAh, that's good to know, thank you!
This makes the 3rd if not 4th time running recovery. Everytime after I get it installed and shutdown it doesn't find the boot loader. So the recovery isn't setting up the boot manager to my SSD. It reads the SSD just fine I can see it in bios.
Does this work for blue screen?
Question. If I am having issues updating windows defender and a coupke security updates. Shall I 1. Reinstall windows. 2. Do this. Or 3. Other ? Any help wouod be great! Im using an ally X. Cheers.
Now is this a rog ally issue? Or a windows 11 issue? Being locked out of your device pin and alternative log in fails.
I don't get the on screen keyboard.
I just bought this thing and it never let me past the loading screen with the logo, I couldn't even set up anything yet.
Turned Fast boot off already but nothing
The Cloud recovery doesn't work as I can't type in my pasword because the keyboard is not popping up.
The touchscreen also does not work
Thanks a ton for the second time!
Quick question. If I were to install bazzite OS and later want to revert back to windows. Would this revert my ally back to windows? Or would I need to make a windows boot drive and install it back that way
@filterless how long did it stay on that loading screen?
Following the process and a "bitlocker C: recovery key" is missing popped up. Recently traded for this system and trying to figure out how to address this now 😅. Any tips?
I should also add: I was trying to reset the system and also pulled the error, that the system "windows recovery environment missing"..
you need to boot into windows, go to settings, privacy and turn off drive encryption. its defaulted on for all rog allys
Hey is this better then using reset my pc in windows or is it the same?
i know that there was an issue when doing the cloud recovery with the keyboard not appearing when prompted to select the wifi network. It has been fixed now or you still have to use an external one?
I'd recommend having an external one just in case.
Didn't know this, thanks again mate.
Have you found a fix for the 30w turbo in dock mode?
The dock I have with the official charger only shows 25W in Turbo. However, it does draw 30W APU power non-stop. But it won't switch power profiles automatically which is a bummer. I'm thinking I just need to buy a 100W charger and test that out, so I'm looking into that now. However, I run manual mode 25W when plugged in anyway as the Turbo mode boost to 43W causing the system to get way too hot IMO.
@@filt3rless I agree it gets very hot and loud. But it would be nice to have the 30w feature to do more fine tuning. Amazing work mate keep it up 👍
Also where is the members link? I can’t find it.
@@everythinggucci3692 Thanks! I think it's just the "Join" button that should be next to my name. I was thinking it could be fun to do a poll for members to vote on the next video. That'd make it more fun for members to get to choose the next video and everyone still gets to see the video at the same time :)
@@filt3rless I’m having trouble seeing it 😂 mate do you have discord would love to keep in touch talk everything ally.
@@everythinggucci3692 Hey, I just created a Discord server: discord.gg/wwRrdfTW :)
Thank's bro
how did you get that dock working wih the ally? mine doesnt give hmdi output.
reboot your ally
Asus cloud recovery is very easy, I figured it out the first time I entered the BIOS lol
Help me 😂 I get stuck at “connecting “ and tone and date are correct
@@GoF1ns internet connection issue? i usually have to try to connect twice before it really connected.
@@kiss4luna I don’t think so. internet is fine and I have 1 gig. I ended up buying a thumb drive and doing it the old fashioned way with an iso.
@@GoF1ns there may be a wifi related bug during the process. but anyway, congurats.
Hi whats your internet speed for the process to take around 1 hour?
On speedtest.net I get around 560 Mbps download.
Is anyone having issues being frozen in online gaming apps? Internet connection is fine, yet apps freeze like im disconnected.
Thank you for tutorial booting my ROG Ally issue error' data and i Will format data not reset just i get reboot this thank you😊😊
Am stuck at Deploy HDI for few hours what can I do
Hey, the only thing I can recommend is trying to hold the power button and restarting it. You might have to run it again.
Mine is stuck at progress circle and then an error, had the same happen 5 times and no luck 😢😢😢😢😢
It sounds like something is wrong with the cloud recovery. Unfortunately without seeing the device it's very difficult to troubleshoot and know what's going on. One thing you could try is if you have a USB-C to ethernet adapter, try plugging in an ethernet cable.
For anyone having this issue, just change the date for the actual date. Problem fixed.
I cannot finish the recovery. Always stops in the cloud recovery progress [download]! Tried like 5 times and everytime it stops in a different % progress. I dont know whats going on.
Hey, just to make sure, did you see the pinned comment and try changing the time and making sure no SD Card is in the device? If that doesn't solve it, there is a possibility it could be the internet dropping out for second, or something with Asus' cloud recovery.
@@filt3rless yes I did. Unfortunately I gave up after so many tries. My last attempt would be using a cable internet connection. But I don't have a dock or a hub for this. I have no other choice rather than clone the original ssd.
@@filt3rless not to mention that my bios didn't reset after the new ssd installation.
@@drumam Dang, sorry to hear that. It's probably something on Asus' end. It could have even been their cloud recovery servers. I feel they have way too many steps for the recovery, and it takes far too long. When I use a USB to re-install windows it's done in about 10 minutes. But it doesn't install any drivers or Asus software so you have to have an external keyboard connected and a HUB with ethernet.
So you are saying we will lose everything and its not worth using cloud recovery at all? Thank fuck I have an external SSD to back up my files from.
Cloud recovery will completely wipe the device back to the original out of box setup. So you will loose everything, and I wouldn't trust the Asus backup method, definitely back it up manually to the external SSD before you wipe the device.
@@filt3rless Can't be any worse than MSI bricking my old computer in the middle of the night with a forced update. The ROG ally has been a much better experience.
@@ltraltier6009 Same, I've had bad experiences with MSI laptops as well as a motherboard fail, so I specifically stay away from MSI stuff now.
Yeah this don't work. Every time you try to use cloud recovery it asks you to set up secure something or other you try to do it it doesn't work it keeps on going over and over and over again.
Can someone help mine is stuck at “getting ready”
Hey, were you able to get past the getting ready screen?
Mines doing this currently
How long did you wait on the "checking" screen?
I'm not 100% sure, some of the screens can take a WHILE though. If you're still on that screen by the time you read this, then that might be an issue.
It shows the SSD in bios. I've made sure all updates are applied. AMD. Armory crate. Windows. My Asus. I'm not sure what the next step would be.
@@crowdofone222 If it's still stuck on that screen, then I'd say hold the power button to restart it. Are you unable to get into the device? if you've loaded up windows and all drivers and everything you should be good to go.
I replaced SSD to the 2tb and after using "Cloud recovery " it finished downloading system file but after that it stuck on "checking". I restarted it to make sure the bios had the correct date and time. Waiting to see if itll get passed that screen this time.
@crowdofone222 did you fix this problem.?
My cloud keeps saying enable secure boot
Same I have the same issue, I enable it and it doesn’t fix it!!
Same here i am about to just throw the thing out and call it a day. The only reason I bought an upgraded hard drive because I watched this video and it seemed to be so easy. It's not so easy when they only give you half the steps. At least they got their views though
@@karlsmith7371 honestly just sell it and get a ally X. Thats what I did
wait it was that easy U_U
Filterless, god lord
damn cant get into bios this trash of a pc just plain turns on then off no lights on the top first orange then the white then neither
I lost all my files and ended up with a fresh install of windows 😤😫 fml I should’ve just cloned it
Mine just stays stuck at zero percent….. wtf
same
@@azrulshah fyi, i had to have no sd card in, I had to do this weird move to update the cloud software by selecting one of the options(I forget which) and then selecting “back”, which then created this option I think in upper right of the screen which allowed me to update the cloud backup software….AAAAAAND THEN, it still got stuck at 3%….but I left it there for at least two hours, and it jumped to like 20% or something….eventually it finished
This process is a hellish nightmare that doesn't work at all. The recovery takes 45 minutes and then fails everytime. I have spent over 10 hours trying every tip in all of these videos. It is infuriating!
Hey, have you tried doing the pinned comment steps? It looks like you have to adjust the date/time and remove the sd card. If you look at the pinned comment in this video Nikola provided detailed instructions. Hope you get it working!