Carlos Kleiber, Live in Chicago, 1978 ( Weber, Schubert, Beethoven )
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2024
- Carlos Kleiber, Live in Chicago, 1978
Carl Maria von Weber ( 1786-1826 )
00:00 « Der Freischutz » Overture
Franz Schubert ( 1797-1828 )
Symphony No.3 in D, D.200
10:18 I. Adagio maestoso - Allegro con brio
18:55 II. Allegretto
21:42 III. Menuetto ( Vivace )
25:29 IV. Presto. Vivace
Ludwig van Beethoven ( 1770-1827 )
Symphony No.5 in C Minor, Op.67
30:06 I. Allegro con brio
37:06 II. Andante con moto
46:29 III. Allegro
51:28 IV. Allegro
Carlos Kleiber, conductor
Chicago Symphony Orchestra
Rec. 1978 ( Artists )
The Von Weber was sheer perfection. Just powerful and strong.
I was at one of those concerts. A memory for a lifetime.
What an incredible chance! I can't even imagine how great it must have been!
@@sofronichrist-bonus Like seeing the rarest of musical birds. In his career I believe he did little more than about 100 public concerts. Yet he's often considered the greatest of his era.
Magnifico!!!
Documento di grande valore. Si noti la magnifica plasticità dell'orchestra di Chicago ad adattarsi alle intenzioni di Kleiber. Qualche perplessità può generarsi per come Kleiber intenda lo Schubert giovanile, soprattutto per l'introduzione che di maestoso non ha assolutamente nulla. Il Beethoven di Kleiber - peraltro limitato solo alla IV, V, VI e VII, e all'ouverture op. 62 - ha scritto la storia dell'interpretazione beethoveniana di tutti i tempi.............
Strikingly beautiful!
Thanks Sofro!
I know this performance. The Weber overture is one of the best.
I agree ! Thank you for your comment :)
Excellent
Thank you so much 😀
Ce concert est littéralement fabuleux. Merci mille fois pour ce document rare et exceptionnel. 😘😘😘😘
Ravi que cela vous ait plu ! Merci pour votre commentaire :)
Many thanks for this deeply appreciated post
Gracias por compartir esta obra de arte!
He would conduct only once more with the CSO...in 1983 when he did the Mozart 33rd and Brahms 2nd.
Magnifica interpretazione di tre capolavori da parte di un gigante del podio.un grazie di cuore!
Did you know that Günter Wand, of whom Carlos Kleiber was an admirer, also guest conducted in Chicago around this time?
@@thadmcarthur I remember it being very good. Was it Wand's demands for long rehearsal times that prevented a longer relationship with the CSO? I can imagine how it might have been, seeing as the Chicago Symphony Orchestra was so self aware of their high performance standards with Solti and Reiner. They would've likely treated Wand's demands as insulting. A pre fussy Abbado was more to their liking I guess.
@@thadmcarthur btw, thanks for "fingerspitzengefühl".
@@thadmcarthur btw, btw, my all time favorite Brahms one is with Wand's old orchestra, the NDRH, but with Furtwängler. And I always did wonder what his aborted Chicago tenure might have sounded like. Maybe something comparable to that Wand Chicago Brahms.
@@ilirllukaci5345Wand was hired for two engagements by Peter Jonas at the time. Jonas left soon after and the orchestra (according to principal flute Donald Peck’s memoirs) thought that Wand was extremely rude and condescending and didn’t invite him back.
@@ilirllukaci5345FWIW the Brahms 1 Wand recorded with CSO during one of those engagements is really stiff and pedantic.
128 kb/s ! Poor Kleiber!
Probablement l'interprétation de la cinquième la plus violente. Carlos Kleiber est au tempo maximum qui la rend encore intelligible.
Je ne sais pas si c’est la plus violente, j’aurais plus tendance à parler d’intensité ( là où Furtwangler en 1943, Jochum en 1945 ou même Szell en public sont nettement plus pour moi dans l’expression de la violence ou de la terreur ), mais ce n’est qu’une pure opinion personnelle, chacun ressentant de manière différente une même musique :). Les tempi sont, comme toujours avec Carlos Kleiber, idéalement choisis.
The technical quality of the sound recording is subpar, as it lacks clarity. Also, the CSO plays, here, without its customary precision, which I impute to Kleiber's indistinct baton technique and/or insufficient/ineffective rehearsals. Altogether one of the worst recorded performances by the CSO: sloppy, enervated, and weighed down by "interpretation."
It must have been very hard work for Kleiber. Not even him could make this typically American orchestra listen. They are always occupied by thinking what they are DOING, they have got no capacity of percepting what is HAPPENING, they don't listen to each other. This makes their music so lifeless.
the wienner phil recording is more " lifeless " than this tbh .