Carlos Kleiber in rehearsal & in concert - Johann Strauss - Die Fledermaus - 1970 D/ITA COMPLETE!
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- Carlos Kleiber in rehearsal & in concert - Part II - Die Fledermaus - Johann Strauss [Südfunk-Sinfonieorchester] - 1970 [DE+IT subs] COMPLETE! Enjoy :)
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![J. Strauss: Die Fledermaus (The Bat) (C. Kleiber, 1986) [Complete / Japanese sub.]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1H6wSC4GFtw/mqdefault.jpg)
Dirigent mit göttlicher Ausstrahlung, charismatisch, ein Maestro, große Verneigung!
Pure joy, elegance and poetry like no other, Karajan said about Kleiber «he is the best among us»
THE rehearsal I would give my all to witness, to breath the same air with Kleiber.. He is like the mixture of all kind and discipline of performing arts on the highest level: knows the score, what Strauss meant, how to run a rehearsal with these big babies, how to sound sublime, how to move, how to dance, and how to tell all with joy without any boredom.
Gagged! VIVA dearest Carlos!
thisis a jewel. It should have 93 billion views
with less than 8 billion people in the world, this would be difficult >.>
Non esiste un altro direttore così comunicativo e espressivo
Ja, mehr als genial!
This is so beautiful. Carlos Kleiber clarifies each detail so that Die Fledermaus sparkles and sounds fresh. His conducting is like taking wing in its freedom and the orchestra reponds.
Colossale, il più grande di tutti.
Wonderful! Best conductor ever!
At the start the ensemble is a wreck because they’re learning how to follow his direction. He doesn’t stop to fix these, knowing that they’ll get used to each other. Also, he doesn’t stop to correct technical details (like Celibidache), but always dwells on the story-telling of the work. He knows he’s working with pros who will strive to refine the technicalities; he works the musical expression. His stick technique is fascinating, giving what the musicians need at every moment, again from a story-telling or affective angle.
I really appreciate your pointing out this story-telling aspect. Yes, he tells and re-tells stories, and makes the players co-creators and even co-conspirators.
conosciuto e ascoltato nelle prove in quegli anni, unico e grandissimo! sapeva condurre l'anima...
Comparing the Performance to the beginning of the Rehearsal reveals Kleiber's Vision and proves him right to rehearse the way he does.
One of the greatest conductors of all time
The GREATEST !
Le puntigliose prove dell'immenso, unico, grandissimo interprete del Pipistrello di Strauss e confrontando il rendimento dell'inizio delle prove ci viene rivelata la visione di Kleiber nel dimostrare la visione giusta provando nel modo in cui lo fa. !!!!!
He put a spell on the orchestra.
Amazing.
Moving. Magnificent.
Boredom is more like it
@@bult15 😭😭😭
Buchtäbliich mit Leib und Seele.
Kleiber incanta. Immenso musicista
¡Excelente documental! ¡Gracias!
Можно бесконечно смотреть на молодого Карлоса Клайбера, как он репетирует со своими мызыкантами, слышать его голос.
Жаль, что нет перевода. 🙏🌹🌹🌹🌹🙏
Fantastisch
Il più grande di tutti i tempi!!!
Ogni grande, è grande a suo modo.
Extremely fascinating to see the maestro at work. What a remarkable and fine musician he was. The way he discribes the music is just pure gold: humorous, creative and full of pictures anybody could understand. He realy was ahead of his time.
xapaga1: spielst Du selbst ein Instrument? Streichinstrument? Flöte? Auf diesem Niveau? Anscheinend nicht. Sonst wüsstest Du, wie lange wir studieren, wie unbeschreiblich wichtig die Erfahrung ist. Und letztlich, wie ein Orchester erst langsam zusammenwächst, um einen sofort wiedererkennbaren Klang zu entwickeln. Das Ziel ist immer, gemeinsam mit dem Dirigenten ein Wunderwerk an Interpretation zu produzieren. Schon die Frage nach der unterschiedlichen Bogenbewegung kann bei Kollegen und mir in lange Diskussionen ausbrechen. Aber: ein Dirigent mit Talent und Inspiration wird immer akzeptiert und er schätzt das Orchester als sein „Instrument“. Von außen sieht alles immer so einfach aus. 110 Musiker einigen sich auf eine Interpretation. Immer eine faszinierende Entwicklung.
Vor allem darf man die Auswahlprozesse für Orchester nicht vergessen. Das ist jedes Mal wie eine ganze Serie und zwar zivilisierter, aber 1000 Mal so schwer wie DSDS. Alleine schon um studieren zu dürfen das Ganze noch einmal. Höchsten Respekt vor denen, die es hinter sich haben.
Incredible Genius
It is so difficult for a young man to make such a conservative bunch of musicians play your way. They just don't give a damn without realizing that they're making history. That's what I find most remarkable of this film.
Is 40 years really young for a conductor? Carlos was in 1970 already a well known conductor! ;)
@@MusikPiratCH Hey, WickedPawn is right. Forty years of age is regarded young in this fossil like world of klassische Musik. Look at all those members of the Southern German Radio Orchestra. They had surely been playing since or even before the Nazi era.
Thank you. You said it all.
@@xapaga1 I really don't think so. And be assured that Carlos Kleiber (son of Erich Kleiber) was already a well-known conductor himself.
Zubin Mehta once was very young (in his twentieth) when he had to replace Fritz Reiner when Artur Rubinstein first met Mehta.
Grazie per la traduzione!
👍👍👍 a Vivace Puletti
Emozionante.
Excellent team work. The core work of the violins, the additional colors of the oboe and the flute, short but still technically difficult. I enjoyed this rehearsal a lot because Carlos Kleiber is so talkative 😅 he explains a lot and therefore the layperson can also understand. Notice how the film editor struggles to show us the correct concerned musicians. 👏
Immenso
Bravissimo 👍
Wow: grazie!
Kleiber tira fuori certe perle che si può solo ascoltarlo
Kleiber had a musical intelligence outside the average.
Amazing
When you watch Carlos rehearsing Die Fledermaus, you really plunge into an atmosphere of delightness present in this Master Piece. Of course, the bright intellect of Carlos is not allways present in his musiscians he conducts, but his ellocuency is just OVERWHELMING: WHAT A MASTER of the batton !!
Impresionante, un lujo muy grande
Grossartige Probenarbeit! Carlos weiss genau, was er haben will - eben wie die Fledermaus Ouvertüre klingen soll! ;)
Und dann hört einmal wie es 1989 bei den Wiener Philharmonikern klingt! Einfach fantastisch! :D
splendido
Thanks.
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Elegance
This was at t-6. Six years before the great recording of the Fifth !
21:17 His attention to expressive detail is remarkable, and the musicians at the end do get idea of the Kleiber-sound.
I wish I knew the language to understand his jokes 😢.
Above all he has great players to work with, who will sort out technique/intonation etc. That is not always the case.
Gott danke dir für Carlos !
我看了很多评论，竟然没有中文的评论。Carlos Kleiber 是我最喜欢的指挥家。人生有许多憾事，我的遗憾就是没能和Carlos Kleiber生长在同一个时代，同一个国家。
When a conductor against a whole orchester stands ....
@2:22 "Und jetzt ist dort der Dirigent"
That stole my heart. Good thing he already stole it long ago
La sensibilità del suono e la capacità visionaria di Kleiber non sono di questo mondo
If you are here because of Mark Gould: 18:15 (oboe solo/talk)
he dances when he conducts... But his movement is not too subtle for the musicians to know what those movements mean... The True Legend together with Bernstein, and "lord" Karajan...
You can feel there is a real dialogue between the orchestra and the conductor.
24:51 straordinario !
Thanks a lot! A MI TUO FO
Wie angepisst alle immer bei den Unterbrechungen schauen :D
Alternate title: Carlos Kleiber struggles trying to make a german orchestra sound light
Dio vi benedica
34:27 ........................................... !
STRAUSS + KLEIBER
= U G U A L E =
come nasce un poema musicale
6:37 Der Gesichtsausdruck von dem Geiger nach dem "Haut-Vergleich" dann zweifelnder Blick zu den Kollegen und genervtes,resignierendes Abwenden Nach der Devise: "Ist der verrücktNaja..Ich spiel eh wie ich will !" Orchestermusiker können schon A..l.. sein :-) Überhaupt scheint er damals als "Nachwuchsdirigent" noch nicht besonders ernst genommen worden zu sein.Das hat sich ja dann geändert. Gut eingefangen von Regie u.Kamera!
"Nachwuchsdirigent"? Wirklich im Alter von rund 40 Jahren? Etwas schwerfällig war das Stuttgarter Sinfonieorchester schon, aber Carlos hat es sehr gut erklärt, was er haben möchte (wie ich finde). Diese Probenarbeit steht Furtwängler in nichts nach! Grandios!
also in der Probe haben sie mir besser gefallen, die staccato stellen in der aufführung waren dann doch wieder viel braver
trotzdem eins meiner lieblingsstücke von kleiber
Quanto era figo...
@1:12 - left-handed viola player!
Wer Carlos Kleiber erleben will wie ausgelassen er die Fledermaus dirigieren konnte, sehe sich die grandiose Aufführung mit dem Bayerischen Staatsorchester in der Nationaloper München an. Otto Schenk führte Regie und so entstand ein einmaliges Kunstwerk. - Heinz th-cam.com/video/1H6wSC4GFtw/w-d-xo.html
CARLOS WAS EVEN BETTER THAN HIS FATHER, & HIS FATHER WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST.
Шикарныйиввысшейстепенимузыкант идирижерспоющимзвучаниеморкесттра
Your bassoon player is definitely playing poker.
Poetry.
25:00
"eine wunderschöne Frau, mit langem Beinen" Is it part of the Fledermaus Librett? Or, how could the women of the Orchester be inspired by such a woman? All right. 50s or something.
ach die armen festangestellten konzertmusiker: deren verstörte mimen und der don carlos reisst sie auf: unendliches glück, wie der meister - ohne beleidigungen- die verstörten ignoriert...das wirkt bis heute. aus tiefster seele -zumindest bis weinachten 2022 scharfenberg83
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Wish this was in English so bad!
Leider hat die CDU-Fraktion im Konzert wieder die Mehrheit übernommen.
Leider war AfD noch nicht da ...;
@@Fritz_Maisenbacher doch die damalige CDU war weit näher an der AfD dran. Die heutige CDU einfach so unglaublich nach linksgrün gerutscht...
@@toffifeewolf2069
Sehr richtig.
Das nennt man Dekadenz.
Not. "one of the greatest" but defiinitely t h e greatest. to those who wish to get a rough idea of CK as a human being and a musician: listen to WHO WAS CARLOS KLEIBER?(BBC. 2009) DG Germany
oh dear... somebody translate this to English. Please!!! Is this German?
Yes, it is German, and, forgive me for saying so, I don't think it possible to translate the intellectual firework and ability of expression of Kleiber into a language as brutish as modern English...
@carmichael561 And yet you’re speaking English. Asshole
if you haven't discovered this yet... and if you have good eyes or a big monitor screen :-) th-cam.com/video/NVk2Glu-7kM/w-d-xo.html
Fuck off. Is that brutish enough for you Carmichael?
You all have used up all the superlatives. Next up Johann Strauss himself. And then maybe even Haydn! Load your verbal guns. (any of the three B's would cause a linguistic apotheosis!) Memo to all: Kleiber was a conductor.😁
Sara' stato pure grande ma sempre e solo Fledermaus sonava!
Ha diretto 4 sinfonie di Beethoven,2 di Brahms,2 di Mozart,Tristano e Isotta,Otello,Traviata, la Boheme, e tutto questo a la Scala,al Met,al Coven Garden,in Austria,in Germania,in Argentina,al Messico e perfino Beethoven a Cagliari. Poi,certo,ha diretto moltissime volte il Cavaliere della rosa e il Pipistrello di Strauss ma,nel loro genere,parliamo di capolavori senza dimenticare il Vozzek di Alban Berg. Di questi titoli,a detta anche dei suoi colleghi,è stato il più grande in assoluto. E anche il più amato. Le conviene cercare un po' su TH-cam.
@@massimodefrancovich4795 , rispetto a Toscanini, Karajan , Bernstein...
L'unico accostabile a Kleiber,per interpretazioni sconvolgenti,pur se diversissimo,è Furtwangler.
@@massimodefrancovich4795 ,vede? Sono solo gusti personali...eppoi bisognerebbe aver ascoltato dal vivo Furtwaengler.. a parte Toscanini, gli altri li ho ascoltati dal vivo tante volte. L'ascolto dal disco non vale granche'.
@@massimodefrancovich4795 , sbaglio o l'ho veduta ne" Le Cugine" di Svevo...con la Vannucci...all'Eliseo di Roma...una bella serata.
Dieses Dirigieren ist doch auch nur Show? Welcher gute Musiker, der Noten lesen kann, braucht das?
+Adler Horst Jeder, du Horst ... Du scheinst keine Ahnung davon zu haben ...
+Adler Horst Lustigerweist, dieses Fledermaus Overtuere ist eins der Stuecke, die von Dirigenten so extrem unterschiedlich klingen. Weiterhin ist dieses beim manchen Dirigierenwettbewerben als Pflichtstueck festgelegt, da es auch sehr heikel zum Dirigieren selbst ist.
Lieber Adler Horst, Sie sprechen von "guten Musiker" und "Notenlesen" . . . Wenn Sie sich die Gesichter von diesen Lethargischen Musikern ansehen und ihre Verschlafenheit, konfrontiert mit der Spritzigkeit voller Leben einer Fledermaus, da können sie Gift darauf nehmen dass nur EIN CARLOS KLEIBER sie zum WIRKLICHEN Musizieren bringen kann: Da nützt kein artiges rutine Spielen mehr !!! Juan Fröhlich - Germany
of course, this is only for show!..real musicians would be bored out of their minds at this clown's endless peering into his navel... the Emperor has no clothes
Music, dear Phantomfantom, is a genre that penetrates into our souls by (sound) GESTURES. If there is SOMEBODY who has the gift to perform a perfect picture of a real piece of art - like The Fledermaus, that is for sure NOT A SHOW (of an endless clown) BUT a MARVEL OF INTERPRETATION. I think you got a wrong image of what is at stake here !!! One of the greatest ENEMIES OF ART is a "bored attitude towards the Emperor´s underware" !!
I agree with many of my colleagues who characterize this as narcissistic BS masquerading as inspired musicianship. I made similar comments on another version of this clip and was surprised at the nastiness of the reactions to my criticism. Any orchestral musician would see this as obvious, self-indulgent, useless banter. The only thing missing is”more mysterioso”.... Too much rehearsal time.
😭😭😭😭haters tears *slurp😛
You are an immense idiot, did you know?
You make a nasty comment, and you are surprised you get nasty reactions? That makes no sense.
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