Triumph Street Triple vs Honda CB650R - REAL WORLD TEST
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Yammie Noob Ninja 650. I sat on the Honda and found the Ninja to be a better fit for me. If I must pick one these 2 I guess I would take the Honda because I don’t have a triumph dealer near by.
MT-09 SP will be getting it soon i hope
You don’t have to be in neutral on the 2018 Street Triple R to start and tank grips are a must!! I’ve been riding for 27 years and the Street Triple R is my last street bike. I almost thought it was too much but once I realized it can be as tame as you want but it will do whatever you need!! It was more of a sport bike than I thought and I’ve totally embraced it. Motor/chassis combo is the I’ve best ever rode. I ride just for pleasure. It’s a happy maker. Great for spirited street ridding.
Yammie Noob I’m buying my first bike and I’m 5’8 what should I look for? I’m looking for a street bike
28:50 for the people who want to skip to the race. p.s the content is great too, if you haven't seen it yet already.
bless you
thank you , shame uploader don't do this
I am disappointed. You stopped the race before the honda reached the maximum torque. As any 4 cylinder engine it performs better at higher revs. But as I can see you closed the throttle on the honda around to 6-7000 revs before it wake up the beast.
A real hero
"Triumph is more buzzy"
"Oh btw I've never left 2nd gear"
Hahaha
And was riding in ripped jeans. Just a complete, talking head goon.
Honda's are great for the older rider who appreciates quality, has nothing to prove and just wants to go for an enjoyable ride.
I'm 33 on a honda cbr650r. Am I old? ;)
Enjoy the heck out of that bike
@@Kelevelin I'm 29 soon to be getting a cb650r 🤣 yh i guess we're old before our time ahaha
I’m 46 and just got my 21 CB650R, very fun bike.
Boo! Lol
@@Kelevelin am 22 years old with a CB650R, definitely not, it's an amazing bike
I let you talk me into a triumph. Just picked up the 2020 street triple rs saturday. And I love it
Is it as awesome as it seems?
Such a great bike. Enjoy!
@@Injamben since it's my first big bike I dont have anything to compare it to. But I have been having an immense amount of fun on it
@@yammienoob thanks
My first bike is a 2015 street triple. Been eyeballing that 2020 RS. that silver ice color looks amazing
I spent my money for a new 2017 Bonneville T-120 Black (March of 2017, my birthday present to myself for completing 65 years), then later that same year I bought a 2018 Street Triple R (September 2017). So Triumph does it for me. The Street always puts a smile on my face when I crank it past 8,000 RPMs! The T-120 is just soooo beautiful to me (sounds great too).
I had an 09 street triple and loved it. It seemed to be the most road confidence ride I ever had on a bike. It started developing oil seepage though. I loved the sound and handling of it but I had to get rid of it because of the addiction. I miss it and have had thoughts of getting another one. At 66 I still want another one.
I would literally find a way to ride to nowhere
Honda - Everything you need, nothing you don't.
The CB650R reminds me of my CB900F 919, as it is also a bare bones, minimalist, naked street fighter. The 919 is a joy to ride, and I imagine the 650 is too.
Bought a 2013 street triple 675R as my second bike after my ninja 300. Was still a pretty new rider at that point but thankfully had a good mentor I could ride with and who helped me purchase the bike. Love the vid and love the bike!
Clutch in and the triple will start in any gear. Doesn't need to be in neutral. Does need stand up.
Right. No expirience that guy .
Mi striple starts in every gear with clutch pulled in
Belated congratulations to Kyle on the win. Hope you are having fun with it.
I'm in the market for my first bike, and hearing y'all go through the talking points of what makes a good bike to learn on and what makes a good bike for experienced riders was very helpful. I didn't even think about the cost factor.
Make sure you go to other sources as well. I found the opinions on Yannie contradict a lot of the major bike media sites and TH-cam pages.
Dude, RUN away from italian bikes!! Make yourself a huge favour and buy Japanese - i was stuborn and bought a FB Mondial and had to get an engine rebuild with 5000 kms on the clock and 6 months ownership... and it was a NEW bike!! After that, i had gearbox problems and then electric problems - bike would shut down when slowing down and going from 3rd to 2nd (CPU box change) and i WAS DONE WITH IT!! And i lost money when i trade it for a new CB125R, but at that point, i really didnt care - just wanted to get rid of it!! So please... do yourself a favour and BUY JAPANESE and save a huge amount of troubles!! 🙏
The street triple was my first bike. Def not a beginner bike but it was such a beast. I miss it alot
That Honda looks soo good
Yeah and that muffler
I think the same about the triumph
Hate those 2 “fanny packs” either side of the tank
Great review on both bikes you guys are very helpful.
My first bike ever is a 2016 street triple rx and I made like 9000 kms in 3 months and now I ride it like a bicycle. Very good handling and lot of power.
Great video guys, thanks for sharing tot experience!
Triumph triple engines are wonderfully forgiving due to the flat torque curve. It sounds amazing and has so much character you just don't get in an inline four. That being said my Speed triple is the only bike I've ever owned that has false neutrals. Sloppy shifting is not an option. Furthermore Triumph dealerships are few and far between. Honda has shops everywhere.
Really good overview. A big thumbs up.
fantastic review ... @cardo the talk through was fantastic
Started on a BMW F650 nearly four years ago and got myself a Street Triple RS last year. Test rode it while the snow was melting in early february and fell in love with the engine right away. What a bike! So precise, nimble and - imho - forgiving, it is just insane. Helps me with social distancing too! :D
Great review, I enjoyed it thanks.
Update after 2.5 years and 64xxx km ridden:
Not a single problem. I use for daily commute, weekend trips, occasional touring, and go through heavy rain or flood at exhaust level
Not a single problem
oil change every 4,000 km
Best Christmas decision of 2019!
which bike are you talking about?
You spoke briefly about the seat heights. The Street Triple R comes in a lower seat height configuration also. It’s 1.77” lower. Pretty significant.
Honda: let’s make an awesome bike then throw a 2005 IPod on it for the gauge cluster.
Well you're not staring at the cluster panel much while driving, so I'd much rather have a small robust screen than one of those big displays which look like an amateur flash website from 20 years ago, cluttered with unnecessary information and animations. The only complaint I have about the Honda screen is that it could use a bit more contrast.
Said no one ever. 🙄
Yeah, but 2005 was a great year for iPods.
It's an already an expensive bike as it is.
better than what i currently have on my DRZ400!
21:52 to 22:10 is kind of everything I needed to hear for any type of bike reviewing about what the bikes can do for its intended rider (feel of the bike/personality quirks) for the purpose in which they are made to be whether they be intentional or not :D great show guys love it.
I have an ‘18 Street Triple R and love it. Just put an SC Project slip-on on it. I had the bar end mirrors from the RS put on and a tidy tail. Wouldn’t have any other naked.
Very good review thanks for your input, both of you guys do a great job at presentations, broadcast quality!
Watching this I am kicking myself for not finding the extra $4000 to go from the CB300R to the CB650R when I bought my first bike. I love the CB300R, but I feel like you could keep a 650R forever and never get bored.
I have been going back and forth on which one to get myself and I think I’m going with the 650R because of what you just said. I won’t get bored of it when I get really comfortable with it.
Learn to really ride man that 300 is a great bike and the cb650 will only get cheaper over time for you to buy used when you have more cash and experience
@@T2HeadedEagle A better option is a used first bike and then upgrading to a new bike.
I own a 2014 Street Triple 675R...it will probably be the last motorcycle I own...I started riding in 1962. Seen a lot of technological changes in that time and regard the Striple as one of the best..
What bikes are you folks in this thread riding since your comments two years ago?
Striple S and ninja 1000 sx now
I had two Triumphs and I was never left on the side of the road. They were very reliable.
OMG 2 triumphs bikes , thats my dream bro !!!!
Still running my 2010 street triple. Had the famous stator/rectifier issue but that's been fixed by Triumph 8 years ago. Since then it's never missed a beat. 50,000 miles and counting.
@@ikra Funnily enough that issue used to belong to Honda (VFR).
@@ikra , awesome
@@ikra I also had a 2010 Street Triple R, replaced regulator/rectifier, otherwise no issues.
Enjoyed your talks that add fun to your videos. 👍
The difference in visibility between the TFT vs LCD dashes is insane! I hope Honda can upgrade to one on the CB say...next year?
Trident vs CB650R would be the most appropriate comparison, I think. Both are neo-retro with relatively high revving engines above 2 cylinders, but without the sporty pretentions of the Street Triple
I went with the Trident for a couple reasons. At 6'2 215lbs the Trident felt like a better rider position, love the sound and feel of the triple, $1,500 cheaper with a much nicer dash, I prefer the looks of the Trident and it is pretty buttery smooth flicking into corners. I do mostly commuting 50/50 open road and city and the ride quality is very comfortable.
once honda changes the cb650r the display gauge on it, it'll be on my radar... rn I'm still drooling on the street triple
What'd you go with bro?
They did come out with the bigger screen on the 2024 I should've waited I've had my 2023 Cb650r for 3 months so far and About 1,860 miles on it it's been great but feel like it lacks power until it gets to its powerband around 7k my previous bike was an 07 ninja 650r was a lot peppier on low end but I love the naked look so i accept my purchase haha everytime I get out of work it's such a good looking bike
Honda is always occupying one of the first places in all the statistcs regarding motorcycles reliability (like all the japanese bikes) while Triumpf is always struggling somewhere in the middle of all the tops. So, in my humble opinion, Honda isn't overpriced at all.
In Australia the triple r is about $5k more than the cbr. Even the triple s is about $2k more.
Man you have to bend your knee to the crown AND no discount. thats tough@@davea9946
I thought the brakes were a bit weak on the Honda - otherwise it was very nice and I thought a great 7/10ths bike. May be judging the Honda brakes a bit harshly given what my normal ride (s1000r). Absolutely love the visible exhaust manifolds - piece of art. That triple, however. Will always sound better than an in-line 4. Very nearly bought a Speed Triple over my BM just because of the noise.
Side by side roll on similarity is probably the way the bikes produce power. An engine with a raw power feel doesn't necessarily translate to more actual power than a smoother engine.
I've had the 765R for 4 years (exact same colour) and now fancy something new.
But: This video totally advertises my own bike back to me. Reminds me why I love it and chose it in the first place.
Good video. I'm looking to buy my first motorcycle and was strongly considering the Honda CB650R. You guys helped steer me closer to that choice.
I swopped in a brand new 2016 CB650F after a couple of years for a very low milage (4.500 kilometres) 2014 Street triple R just riding home I knew I had made the correct decision. It was a 'point and shoot' bike, the difference in handling was immediately apparent. Still have it, it still looks immaculate, and still runs perfectly.. Triumph Triples are just beautiful ..
Love the long-form discussion and brain dump, these make for a great video
I didn't have to be in neutral to start either my Street Triple or Speed Triple bikes. Unless, of course, the kickstand was down.
What do you expect coming from a guy riding in ripped jeans? Respect went out the window regarding anything he said after I saw him standing there in that. What an ass.
Picked up a 2012 street triple for my daily commute. Can't wait to take this baby to the track soon!
I started with Ninja 400, now i have a Striple R 765... i do 300 mile days all the time on both ......absolutely fuggin love the triple .
New to your channel, this sh*t is fantastic! Long videos, but informative throughout.
Nice review thanks 😊
I feel, that feeling of lightness on 765R was due to the agressive tire profile on that, while CB uses little flatter profile at rear. Weight difference is also there but I feel the tires makes the difference for sure.
Edit: You later mentioned it too.
silly
@@AlienSexGod shut up
Intro pull at 28:49
Didn't think I'd have to fish for it, Yammie. No timestamp in the video or the description? Just make me wait half an hour to see those last two seconds? Please, man.
That’s because we put time and effort into the whole video and it’s valuable. Thanks for watching
@@yammienoob I know. I've been watching you for years and the quality has only improved. I've gotta tell you honestly though, it makes me not want to watch the video at all when I see a small and interesting clip cut like this to ensure viewership. I think for these longer videos you should do something like Vlog Creations (formerly Ross Creations) and put timestamps to all the different sections of the video right at the start (or in the description but yours is already hella long), so that people can skip to the parts they came for or at least have the option to do so. I'd like you to at *least* have an "Intro at [timestamp]" in the description. I can only speak for myself, but editing like this makes me angrier than pure clickbait. It's basically watch-time bait, or that's how it feels. I want to watch your video because it's keeping me interested, not because I'm waiting for that one intro part to come up again.
@@yammienoob be that as it may, not cool
@@jsfsdk although yammie has a point, yours is stronger
“DRZ is a Rescue Animal”... I laughed out loud. Thanks for that.
Oh my god, watching an old video… how much better the cinematography has gotten in the last 2 years!
Great video guys
I had a 06 CBR 1000rr that I put around 25k miles on before it was stolen and it was the most reliable motorcycle I ever owned. My Speed Triple is the best sounding motorcycle I have ever owned but its definitely not the most reliable.
I actually really enjoyed how and what you talked about in this review. I ride a lot of triumphs and think you covered these bikes well. Though I do have a friend that turned in his triple because of the buzz. It's a bit more pronounced than any other bike in that class
Are you a beginner? Listen to yammie noob's advice, it is spot on. Great vid guys.
I had an 03 bonneville and it allways drew a crowd!!! It was awesome and beautiful!!!🤠🏍
I picked up an FZ8 as my 1st bike and am heavily leaning towards the 765 for my next!
Wow let's compare a $20 knife to a surgical scalpel and see which is sharper.
How about a $3 Xacto knife
What equipement do you use to record the video audio while communicating in the bikes? One intercom with same mic or different mics?
Daytona spec is great. The handling, engine , brakes will be great. I love the street triple. What a bike.
I will miss these road conversation. I hope you'll back.
I haven't had a motorcycle in 5 years and I've had the hardest time picking a bike. I keep bouncing from the CB650R to something nicer like a Street Triple or the new Ducati Monster. You got me at the end with the SV650 bit. That was my previous bike....
Yam said it perfectly, I'm on a Rebel 300 and currently lusting for the CB
Great test guys ! Where are you doing this rides? Nice views:) Peace from Poland!!!
Yammi ya sneaky little snausage .
Is this the Lam's /A2 approved 660 or is it the full power.
Same for the Honda ?
Just purchased the 660 and waiting for delivery on Saturday.
Your bike reviews and vids have helped so much.
Best bike page on the web !!!
love from New Zealand 🤙🏽
Just picked up a 2022 ST765R after five years of riding older Honda muscle bikes and a Sportster, definitely am glad I didn’t buy the ST first or I would’ve likely out road my personal ability, it’s a lot of bike for a beginner to actually be able to use all of it
Wow!
Fan here from the Philippines
I like them both. But one thing they didn't mention (nor did the need to) is seat height and comfort. I can't fit on a triple because I'm so short.
they have a lowered ride height version
@@bella_testastrettaFo sho'?
i had a street triple moment not too long ago. i yelled “TRY-UHMFFFF”
The dyno chart you put up is for the 2016 SPEED triple r, not the STREET triple lol 🤦♂️🤦♂️. The street triple (even the rs model) doesn't make anywhere near that much torque, it's about 20 ft lbs less.
Here is the weird thing. The street feels more aggressive.
@@angry_z_rider4275 I disagree. The street needs to be "wound up" a little to get to the power, whereas the speed has power from about 2500 rpm...and more of it. 20 ft lbs more, to be exact. I was seriously considering financing a speed triple (2016 r model actually), and test rode both bikes back to back. Going from the speed to the street felt like a huge downgrade in power from the bottom. The speed felt way more "aggressive" as a result in my opinion. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
@@gorillamoto5329 I am running a 2014 speed I rode the 2018 street rs and was very impressed buy how much harder it charged. Yes the speed has more on the bottom but that street is noticeably lighter and definitely wheelies easier. Hp on the 765 rs is the same as my 2014 speedy. Glad this was remedied with the 2018 speed triple and the 2020 but triumph is still not competitive hp wise at the moment with other euro bikes.
@@superstretch215
I've been riding liter bikes since 1985. I love the wider Torque band. And the OMG when you give it the Spurs.
Cheers
You’ll find the Triumph buzz calms down a little after the initial oil change....less buzz every oil change after, until extensive break in.
I like Honda bikes because I know I could get something cheaper but the peace of mind of reliability and low maintenance is worth the extra scratch in my experience . Yamaha is pretty much the same so far as reliability as many of my friends tell me.
The power of that 650 Honda matches what my 81 900F Super Sport did. Hard to believe.
Sold my cb650r for the new street triple rs 2020. You really feel the difference when in curves. Street triple just turns wherever you set your eyes on. And light as fuck! Smooth engine and up and down quickshifter is just so gooood!
My 2 bike garage would be a Gray 2024 Honda CB650r E-Clutch(for a daily rider) and a 2023 Yellow Triumph Street Triple RS (for weekend rides). That’s a garage I could walk out to and just stare at for hours! 😊
Try to make a video on the new Kawasaki z900
Thinking of getting one
A video on it from you would be amazing!
My 2nd Gen 675R has never had an oil leak. I've never heard there's an oil leak problem with the Street 675's. Never. LOL! the bikes were neck and neck for maybe 3 seconds out of power band where they produce similar power. Come on guys... I've raced CB650's (with after market exhaust) and the Street drops them like it's not even a race, and that's on the 675 (stock exhaust) let alone the 765. My first bike was a CB650F. The Triumph is better in every way; it just is.
Anything European feels special and exclusive. They usually have the most recent tech and higher horsepower figures vs competition. That new tech filters down to their other bikes and later to other noneuropean manufacturers. Since they take more risks sometimes reliably may be effected. But they are worth it to me as everyone has a Honda
I also just started on a 09 street triple and I don't regret it even for a second. It just makes power everywhere and handles so smooth. I do have a EU A license though, so I think I'm generally a bit more experienced than the average US beginner.
I love my 765R. My "beginner" bike was a BMW 650CS (40HP single). Not really impressed with the reasons why the 765 is not a good first bike, as price of a few 10%'s is not really not relevant.. I would avoid the 765R for a "beginner" because the riding stance is high and forward, the foot controls are high/close-in, and most people won't be able to flat-foot it. It doesn't settle down/backward naturally when braking and is very easy to get going .. fast, very fast. The 765 loves to hold the stance/line and this requires planning, because holding (or starting) a bad line is still holding (or starting) a bad line. A more flick-able bike can be much more forgiving in situations of riding outside one's bounds. The slower accelerating and more agile BMW let me escape unharmed from a few "learning" situations which would likely have ended very poorly on the 765. The street triple is simply a sports bike in different clothing.
That said, the ABS is buttery smooth; and yes, I'm thankfully for it every time it activates and keeps a wheel from locking up as there are wet leaves all over. Wheelies? Not by accident. The TC will keep the front tire down .. to a few inches .. unless disabled. (IMOHO, all bikes - and especially those sold to beginners - should have ABS.)
The usable power range is absolutely amazing on the triple and the gearing is ridiculous: 1st gear will go up to ~70mph and 2nd gear will take the 765 for a smooth ride around town without any shifting. Use 3rd if you want; or don't. 5th and 6th gears feel a bit too close. Manual quick-shifting fills in the gaps, although an electronic QS doesn't come standard on the R (which is better all-around tuning than the S or RS).
Proper luggage/rack options for the 765 are, unfortunately, abysmal which reduce it's ability for proper touring; nor would I recommend two-up for extended rides as the positions are very cozy due to high-set pegs and controls.
Really cool video guys, think you've sold be on the Honda vs the triumph 660 which I love(I'm in my 40s and been getting back into bikes over the past year, want power more than speed),but after watching a few of your videos, the Honda takes the cake as I need to get my wife on the back seat. I can also get a used Honda for way cheaper then the triumph. Enjoy your videos and your conclusion on this video regarding the street triple, I think it's too much bike for me at the moment. Also, don't fancy the front end, looks a bit too much like a transformer.
Nice review - I do like to hear the banter on these kind of vids. I’m a bit of a Honda girl, but have thought about the street triple on a more than a few occasions. Now, however I would go for a z900 for a naked, for roughly the same money it’s a no brainier. Currently I have a 2009 VFR800 and a 2019 CB500x, and I have had two hornets in the past and I do wonder how the hornet would fair against the newer cb. BTW my VFR800 is listed as a tad under 110bhp.
you should bring back this old intro, I really like it !
The Triumph street triple is one hell of a fun bike... heap's of raw power, handling is unreal and it's braking is awesome .... in my opinion it's probably the bike to own when you are stepping up to the big boys.....
I've got a Striple S, is a Euro A2 variant but been derestricted to 94 BHP. Can't say I notice buzzy handle bars.
I do like the Honda CB650R, I'd like one of those too , to keep my Striple company in my bike shed !
Yammie,
Great review!
How did you record the conversation audio setup?
Two separate Tascams synced in post!
@@yammienoob lot of work but the clarity and the quality of the audio shows it was well worth the extra effort!
Good comparison. Don’t think Noob has ever had a bike long enough to wear out the tires? ⛰🏍😬
I just got signed up to get my A license and I really want to get the CB650R because I like how it looks and I hope I get to grips with the controls and the whole package. My dad owns a 125cc that he bought from Spain and I pretty much learned to ride on that but it's a 1 cylinder engine that barely gets to 60mph so I want something that can do 70-75 relaxed and I can grow into. Plus i want to let him ride it some time and see a bright smile on his face
Where are you guys riding in this vid? Those roads have a lot of beautiful countryside to be riding through. The weather was awesome as well.
First from Jamaica. Big up from Jamaica Yammie Noob.
I have had a lot of motorcycles over many years. My two motorcycles prior to my STR675R was a Suzuki SV650S and before that a SV650. The Honda is a great bike certainly and I also owned (concurrently) a Yamaha MT07. The STR675R is on a different level from any of those. It is a slightly tamed down and naked race bike, it has an exotic feel and look and the performance measures up to the looks. And mine at least has been a very reliable motorcycle. Just put new Rosso IIIs on it. The triple engine has a sound and feel that is unique and it pulls down low like a cruiser and on top screams like a racer!
I’ll get the cb id if I can ever find one used but the triumph will more then likely. Be my next bike. Both are amazing an unique
On Triumphs, the back seat is for your mechanic to ride along.
Off Topic: what are you guys using for comms? Sounds great.
Which intercom system did you use for this video. The audio sounds great!
Riding with ripped regular jeans. Smart, I would gladly accept that guys' advice.
Might be picking up a 2018 765rs in the next few days!!!
Can spite do a review on his vfr ??
Please and thanks.
I have a Cbr650f and am looking to add a bike for longer trips.
I have done 1000 km’s in one day on my cbr (600 miles )
But I’m really considering a vfr.
Interesting review thank you. I'm not sure what Triumphs the big lads mates have, but they're pretty reliable these days so I'd have no worries buying one. As for transmission issues, rarely hear of those on properly maintained bikes. Had a Sprint ST1050 for 5 years with no problems apart from a new battery.
@28:50 You guys always say that the CB650R is lacking torque... seems pretty good to me.
Hey guys, how do you feel about both 2023 models now? Is the Triple still the better bike for a beginner.