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I am a new rider and just picked up an Eliminator. It’s very nimble, quick enough, and looks pretty cool. I think the “new rider” who that bike is for. I’m thoroughly enjoying myself.
Eliminator really is just a more nimble Rebel 500 far as I can tell. Great bike, just wish the branding wasn't so loud on the fuel tank. Out of context of knowing what "Eliminator" is referring to (eliminating Rebel 500 afaik), and just having non-motorcyclists think that it's some attempt and only appearing badass (it does that to, but it's not the whole point), which is just an awkward to me. If they toned down the loud branding on the fuel tank it'd look as good as esthetically as it looks on spec sheet.
Can I suggest having the bikes up on the screen for a bit longer. Maybe even let all of them stay on while discussing the category. Find myself scrubbing back and forth to see what bike it was
Glad you guys are back this podcast is really a hidden gem. I am a huge car guy that got into bikes last year with my DRZ400S, so still very green learning alot from these!!
So the Msrp or the 400x is $5,595 but both triumph dealers in the Seattle area are charging for shipping and other handling fees that brings the out the door price to almost $8k. How is that an affordable option?
35:00 I am also on the highside for CFMoto. If nothing else they are raising the bar for standard features ie. adjustable suspension and cruise control. Let’s see a 800 DR along with the 450. Thanks!
My Zero SR/S is my favorite motorcycle of all that I've owned, beating out Gold Wing, FJR1300, Burgman 650 (a close second), Tracer, Africa Twin, Multistrada... But your points are valid, particularly that every one who wants and can afford one, already have one. The buyers are drying up.
Back! Wonderful surprise, made my day. Prefect timing, I was already in the shop getting things ready today, weather says riding season kicks off next week here in Ontario Canada.
I started riding a motorcycle mid year 2023 because I wanted something to take my mind away , engage me in the moment and provide a bit of entertainment. I wouldn’t change to an electric bike because there is not clutch, no gear, no cool noise and no shacking that gives me feedback. If short trip commuting, I’d take advantage of bike lanes and have an electric bicycle. I need the experience out of my biking time and electric doesn’t do it
This is a great kick-off for season 8! My biggest excitement is the Kawi Ninja 7 Hybrid. Finally, we have "arrived in the future!" As a former, big city, freeway commuter for more than 40 years, this is what I needed and wanted all that time! You did not mention that this is a parallel-type, full hybrid: very important. Riders will be able to select full battery use for riding out of the neighborhood quietly and commuting to work, in the morning, and either returning home or taking a ride through the twisty canyons using ICE and or battery. Then return home and do it all over again the next day! Of course, your mileage may vary.... But wow! What nice options we will have. Even Lance agreed that a commuter could like this bike!!
1:40:00 this just all sounds like semantics. If a battery can be easily removed it can be made "swappable". It's a case of infrastructure, the first step surely would be to make the battery removable, as the infrastructure isn't currently there and would be very costly it makes sense to allow owners to charge the battery at home. Then start rolling our battery swap locations. Then users can do both.
Kinda like how gas barbecues came with a propane cylinder that you were supposed to refill whenever it ran out. Then someone got the idea of having an exchange system where you drop off your empty and pick up a different - but full - bottle. And hope the new tank isn't a rusted piece of crap with a leaky valve (the equivalent of which will still be a worry for battery exchanges, I suspect.) Then hook up the gas to the grill and get to cooking again.
Even though I had wanted an EV car for over ten years before I finally bought a Tesla model 3 in 2018, it was because they still weren't good enough, or they were good but too expensive for me. So I appreciate Lance's decision to wait. I'm waiting for the 450-750 Wh/kg batteries to become available (next 3-5 years?), then EV bikes will be like the Tesla, blowing away many of the gas bikes, I'll buy one and never look back. Swappable is good for city commuters. Great show, like Zach I'm excited to see the CFMOTO 450 MT.
I've owned a Lightning Strike C for a full year now. It's hands down the best bike i've ever ridden and I love it. That said, until the big companies leverage their production capability and distribution networks I'm not sure the EV bike segment will grow much. It's really a shame, but i'm happy Kawasaki is at least dipping a toe in. It's true that the pool of buyers is small right now.
The tricky thing about the motocompacto is that it's competition is those electric standup "razor" style scooters. It allows you to not have to walk the last few miles to the office, but as Lance mentioned not everyone has an office job anymore.
I was drawn to the whole electric motorcycle thing. I was so close to getting a Livewire, but the cost to ride basically around town at that price stopped me. I have two gas motorcycles in the garage already and now added an electric bicycle. It costs much less. No vehicle registration and in my city that has extensive bike paths is a joy to ride across town. Also, parking is free and convenient. It just made more sense. . .
I am so excited for another season. An episode I would like to see is one about which vintage motorcycles are good models to buy and get running. For example, I really enjoy first generation Honda Goldwings, 1975-1979, but they are terrible bikes to be the first vintage you should own. A simpler air cooled motorcycles without points such as the Kawasaki kz750's is a better choice for first vintage bike. I think this would be a good discussion with Ari, or maybe the silver fox again. I am so glad you are back, and congrats Spurge on the marriage!
Glad you mentioned the Honda Hornet in the "we're not worthy" category. Mostly these type of bikes would be considered low volume for the US market but that's not the case with the Hornet which should be high volume here. At this point I've given up and gave Suzuki my business and while I might have gotten a better bike in the end the Hornet would have been my first choice and I'm dying to know why we've been excluded from purchasing this model? Seriously, just knowing why would give me a lot of satisfaction!
1:02:00 oh no they doubled down. Sure you can throw a ton of power on a standard and compare it to a weaker sport… but I guarantee you an s1000RR will smoke the standard model. Also sport bikes are just cooler. Nothing turns heads like a sport bike and I know first hand because every time I go on group rides with my friends, people only stare at mine.
I couldn’t disagree more , most sportbikes look the same , and it’s ALL feathers, it’s the last bike I check out in a group and many more like me , but I get it you are cool. lol
I've been interested in the energica experia, but it never seems to make it into your electric mc discussions. While still pricey, it seems to be making steps in the right direction - more mileage and faster charging. I know they don't seem to have much of a dealer network ,which might affect availability, but i keep hoping to see one on daily rider.
I’m excited about the Triumph 400s (the 400x including), and wonder how long they’ll make the Speed Triple 1200 RR…love that bike, use it for track mostly, and sadly not selling well. Re dirt bikes on forest roads: big issue in NJ Pinebarrens. IMO just charge a small fee for entry, use it to maintain environment and track.
I was listening on Spotify and had to come here to say this… I am totally on Spurg’s wavelength when it comes to the XSR900 GP. I had a Gen1 XSR900 and it was awesome, been kicking around getting the new one, but I’m holding out for the GP. Such a cool bike and I’m going to be extremely disappointed if it doesn’t make its way to the US.
I am currently at 2:12:35 in the vid and with the tips provided and using the information gained from an old SRK Motorcycles vid, I am guessing that the mystery motorcycle is a Honda Shadow RS (which I actually want due to said mentioned video). What is everyone else's guess?
On the topic of new bikes I’m excited for, I’m looking forwards to more information on the CFMoto 675 triple. Disappointed by the new Triumph Daytona 660 but it looks like the CFMoto might be a solid mid-sized sport bike, at least on paper.
Thoroughly enjoyable video. Thanks. Add to list of motorcycles that I would like to see come to the US the Honda NT 1100 DCT. I suppose that puts me in the category of people who liked the Honda NT 700 Deauville when it was new. Nonetheless, the NT 1100 strikes me as potentially very satisfying motorcycle to own.
Love hsls...❤😂 there is a rev. Engine that you guys missed the boat!!. There was an inline 4 kawasaki. It was a zr7s. It was not the regular z series.. it was a sport touring bike. Just to let you know.. it is definitely a bike sold in the USA. Only know. Because I have one!!
Zack, Spurge, AND Lance! We are back full throttle for season 8, lets GO! Will Spurge trade Sally the Rally for Daniella Ducati - Rallye!? Glad to see Zack moved out of the garage. I know ADV's are more function over form but I think the Transalp is one of the better looking bikes of the group. I would want to say I'd add the GS but I think its too much bike for me so thinking I'd take the more manageable Transalp. I would be all too happy to add the Aprillia 457 to my garage! When its comes to standards I would have a tough time picking between the Speed and the Scrambler by Triumph, accept no substitutes lol. So would the Speed 400 be better if we let Bruce turbo it? I believe that was I who said it would have been good to also have the Himalayan 450 alongside the Triumph 400's on that trip. That new BMW cruiser looks good, kinda like a blend of the Indian Scout and the FTR. I like the DSRX as well reminds me of the new Moto Guzzi Mandello. Spurge and Lance should do the Dumb and Dumber ride on a Moto Compacto! I would go with R.E. Meteor 650, think thats gonna be a solid and fun bike. Definitely a twin with a pipe, maybe a V-Strom for Spurgeon the Senior? OK little off but I know because I almost bought one for my first bike that is a Honda Shadow Phantom, great hint from Chase there. Or not, wrong on all counts, my losing streak continues. Glad to have you back for another season Old Sports, see you two!
I gotta say, I'm with Lance on the idea of a hybrid motorcycle. A lot of complexity and weight for... The ability to putt around a city a tiny bit with the electric drivetrain? And you still have to keep it supplied with gas and deal with that maintenance? Fuel efficiency isn't really a prime concern for motorcycles anyway, the main benefits of an electric motorcycle are the lack of maintenance and the ability to charge it at home, not that it might be more efficient in low speed situations... If you still have all the gas bike maintenance and have to put gas in it like a regular bike, *plus* it's more expensive than a comparable non-hybrid bike and is higher maintenance, what's the point?
I love Lance, but I am on Spurgeon 's side on batteries. All moto groups need to find one battery! Let's take a hobby that has worked with batteries is RC community. One battery! All companies need to put all eggs into one battery. So all motorcycles can pull up and change fuel source with seconds of wait time and move on. Just me?
Around 2010-2012 I worked with a guy who had the same bike as I did at the time, a first-gen V-Strom 650. In 2013-14 we both got new bikes. I bought a Tiger 800 and he bought an NT700V. One ride on his bike made me realize I made the right choice. However, you'd think with that being the Hawk GT engine, you could make it feel and sound more interesting.
I'm with Spurg on the XSR900. Love the old school GP styling, but I would add the optional lower fairing. With the lower fairing, it looks like Wayne Rainey's YZR500 two stroke.
man, the entire sport bike discussion's only mention of an actual honest motorcycle for sporting purpose was one throwaway comment about a cbr600rr and another passing mention of an rs457, what has the world come to... i love the crossovers but im not sure we needed 20 mins on them! gsx8r anyone?? the zx6r got a revamp too, wheres that! anyone lucky enough to touch an rc8c? daytona660???? helloooooo??? anyone home??
I wouldn't call the Daytona 660 a sportbike... I'm pretty sure we discussed the fact that it's not a Daytona 675 by a long shot. OR maybe that was another upcoming episode... Or maybe it was just IG Live.... Damn us, we're creating too much motorcycle content to keep it all straight.... Either way, long live the original Daytona 675...
@@spurgeondunbar879 completely agree, and if it's in a future ep, hooray! but i didn't hear it here, and it would've been a nice sportbike discussion to have, at least. it's probably going to get raced against rs660s and r7s, so any sportbike category that includes crossovers and excludes actual racing machines is not one I'd subscribe to personally.
Completely agree man. This podcast is alright but they never talk about sport bikes and they clearly don’t understand their appeal. I mean to say an hour in that standard bikes are now sport bikes because they go fast is just a fucking joke.
No mention of the new Sherco 500cc dual sport aimed squarely at KTM's 500excf? No mention of Beta's debut in pro supercross? I'm 45minutes in and they're switching to sportbike discussion, I guess I'll see if they mention something about them toward then end.
A little of education for my dear and appreciate Revzilla friends/host: The first sport-touring motorcycle (up-right style) was not the Multistrada. It was the Yamaha TDM but never land in USA. Yamaha end the production of the TDM and re-design the model using the MT09 engine and chassis as a platform.
I feel like something slow down the electric bike industry because companies can make very good bikes but they don't,in vehicle industry elon boom the car industry thats why companies keep going with electric vehicles.but there are some very good bikes like KTM freeride, energica esse esse,live wire But unfortunately big company don't want to deliver good electric motorbikes.
Spurge, you made multiple comments about bikes from Japan and Europe that don't make it to America. I have the same frustrated feelings about this but most people just laugh it off if the subject happens to come up. Obviously, there are reasons manufacturer's restrict global distribution of their products, but really what is the reason? Money most likely. Personally, I feel somewhat offended when other markets get what we can't have, the Africa Twin comes to mind. I don't ride off-road much, but on the street at least where I live, I only see 2 types of bikes. Sport bikes, and HD's. That's pretty much it. And these are the bikes I have absolutely no interest in. Europe and other major markets seem to embrace a much wider variety of motorcycles than America. So, maybe they're just afraid of not being able to sell any substantive numbers here.
We do miss out on a lot of other (cheap) bikes due to regulations on emission and safety in Europe. Can't buy a bike without ABS here, I think linked brakes are still allowed for certain classes.
No if it’s not a full fairing, forward leaning bike, it’s not a sport bike! No the speed triple RS is not a sport bike! The non RR models are not sport bikes!
CF Moto is a brand that has shown up here on the east coast. I live in Howard County, MD. The Glen Burnie Motorsports dealership has these for sale. I'm much more excited about the new bikes for RE and Triumph that are aimed at bringing more new riders into the fold.
16:18 i bought a 2024 street triple 765 r, and i hated it. the engine is certainly fun and powerful, but also super buzzy and it gets incredibly hot during warmer days. so much that it feels like my feet are burning through the soles of my riding shoes from how hot the footpegs get. the dash looks great, but the layout is absolutely terrible. every piece of data i want to see is on different screens that you have to flip through constantly, or just choose one and be ignorant of everything else. literally the worst designed dash i've ever seen on a bike. the blinker switch is a terrible design. too much pressure and it interprets a long press. too little and it doesn't register at all. then if you don't keep it perfectly centered while trying to cancel, it doesn't register that either. maintenance is outrageously expensive. and even if you do your own oil changes, you have to bring the bike in and pay them to reset the maintenance interval. or i suppose you could just learn to live with the stupid icon taking up half the information screen, blocking some of the data that would otherwise be there. worst of all, the bike just died on me out of the blue. riding home one day, the dash just completely shut off for no discernible reason. i was able to ride home no problem (although the blinkers are electronically controlled by the computer, so they stopped working), but now the bike won't start. this just happened, and i haven't been able to get it to the dealer yet. so i'll never buy another triumph again, and i will advise anyone who will listen to do the same.
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Woohoo! Glad to have y'all back!
And it's a Lance episode!
I hadn't come across Lance before - he's a man who makes sense.
Finally! Glad to see you guys again :)
FINALLY! I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE WAITED SO LONG FOR THE NEW SEASON! LOVE YOU GUYS!
Lance is always a great guest.
I am a new rider and just picked up an Eliminator. It’s very nimble, quick enough, and looks pretty cool. I think the “new rider” who that bike is for. I’m thoroughly enjoying myself.
Welcome to the club!! Lots of practice and smiles in your future!
Eliminator really is just a more nimble Rebel 500 far as I can tell.
Great bike, just wish the branding wasn't so loud on the fuel tank. Out of context of knowing what "Eliminator" is referring to (eliminating Rebel 500 afaik), and just having non-motorcyclists think that it's some attempt and only appearing badass (it does that to, but it's not the whole point), which is just an awkward to me.
If they toned down the loud branding on the fuel tank it'd look as good as esthetically as it looks on spec sheet.
@@MotoDash1100 at least with the pear storm grey, it’s barely noticeable. I plan on getting mine “stealth” PPFed for that matte finish
Forget that. You need a liter bike.
@@michaelnien3738liter bike? Pff at least 1300cc of HAYABOOOSA
Can I suggest having the bikes up on the screen for a bit longer. Maybe even let all of them stay on while discussing the category.
Find myself scrubbing back and forth to see what bike it was
What a banger, 2.5h of motorbike talks. So glad to have the podcast back ❤
The "crossover" bikes like the Tracer, Suzuki GX, BMW XR etc. can be called 'TallRounders" if you don't like to use the car nomenclature.
Glad you guys are back this podcast is really a hidden gem. I am a huge car guy that got into bikes last year with my DRZ400S, so still very green learning alot from these!!
Wonderful bike.
So good to see you guys. Hope you're all well♥️ It's been a long winter. My kneecaps still haven't thawed.
I remember these guys…
Hmmm... they look familiar but I can't remember where I've seen them.
Yeah their cool….
They were hot shots in my youth. The last time I have seen this gentleman must have been decades ago.
😂😂😂
The straight one knocked my sister up.
Great stuff, always good when lance is on. Ari also.
I thought i am crasy about Motorcycles...but you guys are high end crasy. Thank you, we needed that conversattion!
So glad yall are back. Shout out to the silver fox always adding great commentary to these discussions.
It's about time! Glad you guys are back, I was concerned for a little bit.
Talking about Dustin Wheelen, can you do a podcast with him to properly introduce him to your viewers/listeners/readers/customers?
Missed you guys, welcome back 🙏
Great to see you guys back! You've been missed!
So the Msrp or the 400x is $5,595 but both triumph dealers in the Seattle area are charging for shipping and other handling fees that brings the out the door price to almost $8k. How is that an affordable option?
35:00 I am also on the highside for CFMoto. If nothing else they are raising the bar for standard features ie. adjustable suspension and cruise control. Let’s see a 800 DR along with the 450. Thanks!
i was JUST thinking what a huge massive highside lowside shaped hole there has been in my heart!!!
My Zero SR/S is my favorite motorcycle of all that I've owned, beating out Gold Wing, FJR1300, Burgman 650 (a close second), Tracer, Africa Twin, Multistrada... But your points are valid, particularly that every one who wants and can afford one, already have one. The buyers are drying up.
Please, please, please! Keep beating the Versys 500X drum! Great video, sorry you missed the Ninja/Z 500 launch!
This is the only place i get a chance to listen/see this show.
Thank you for adding it to TH-cam!
Bro, lets go! I needed something to get through my work day.
So happy this is back!
GLad yall are back!
Back! Wonderful surprise, made my day.
Prefect timing, I was already in the shop getting things ready today, weather says riding season kicks off next week here in Ontario Canada.
What does Wiarton Willie say?
Our wise rodent has decreed an early spring. Gotta hurry up on winter projects!@@jw6825
I started riding a motorcycle mid year 2023 because I wanted something to take my mind away , engage me in the moment and provide a bit of entertainment. I wouldn’t change to an electric bike because there is not clutch, no gear, no cool noise and no shacking that gives me feedback. If short trip commuting, I’d take advantage of bike lanes and have an electric bicycle. I need the experience out of my biking time and electric doesn’t do it
This is a great kick-off for season 8! My biggest excitement is the Kawi Ninja 7 Hybrid. Finally, we have "arrived in the future!" As a former, big city, freeway commuter for more than 40 years, this is what I needed and wanted all that time! You did not mention that this is a parallel-type, full hybrid: very important. Riders will be able to select full battery use for riding out of the neighborhood quietly and commuting to work, in the morning, and either returning home or taking a ride through the twisty canyons using ICE and or battery. Then return home and do it all over again the next day! Of course, your mileage may vary.... But wow! What nice options we will have. Even Lance agreed that a commuter could like this bike!!
1:40:00 this just all sounds like semantics.
If a battery can be easily removed it can be made "swappable". It's a case of infrastructure, the first step surely would be to make the battery removable, as the infrastructure isn't currently there and would be very costly it makes sense to allow owners to charge the battery at home.
Then start rolling our battery swap locations. Then users can do both.
Kinda like how gas barbecues came with a propane cylinder that you were supposed to refill whenever it ran out. Then someone got the idea of having an exchange system where you drop off your empty and pick up a different - but full - bottle. And hope the new tank isn't a rusted piece of crap with a leaky valve (the equivalent of which will still be a worry for battery exchanges, I suspect.) Then hook up the gas to the grill and get to cooking again.
This pod for sure slipped my mind
Congrats, Spurg!
So glad to have yall back! it wasnt the same without HSLS
Even though I had wanted an EV car for over ten years before I finally bought a Tesla model 3 in 2018, it was because they still weren't good enough, or they were good but too expensive for me. So I appreciate Lance's decision to wait. I'm waiting for the 450-750 Wh/kg batteries to become available (next 3-5 years?), then EV bikes will be like the Tesla, blowing away many of the gas bikes, I'll buy one and never look back. Swappable is good for city commuters. Great show, like Zach I'm excited to see the CFMOTO 450 MT.
Thanks for rockin' out with your talk out!
No mention of the new Moto Guzzi Stelvio in the ADV segment.
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So far, this podcast was the most funny episode.
They’re back baby! 😎
I think it's time to bring back the category "tall-rounder" for all these comfortable sporty bikes
Don't call them sport bikes. It's a disgrace to the name.
I've owned a Lightning Strike C for a full year now. It's hands down the best bike i've ever ridden and I love it. That said, until the big companies leverage their production capability and distribution networks I'm not sure the EV bike segment will grow much. It's really a shame, but i'm happy Kawasaki is at least dipping a toe in. It's true that the pool of buyers is small right now.
The tricky thing about the motocompacto is that it's competition is those electric standup "razor" style scooters. It allows you to not have to walk the last few miles to the office, but as Lance mentioned not everyone has an office job anymore.
I was drawn to the whole electric motorcycle thing. I was so close to getting a Livewire, but the cost to ride basically around town at that price stopped me. I have two gas motorcycles in the garage already and now added an electric bicycle. It costs much less. No vehicle registration and in my city that has extensive bike paths is a joy to ride across town. Also, parking is free and convenient. It just made more sense. . .
I missed this release!!!!! so excited for the new season. Let's do this!
Just the right time!!!
I am so excited for another season. An episode I would like to see is one about which vintage motorcycles are good models to buy and get running. For example, I really enjoy first generation Honda Goldwings, 1975-1979, but they are terrible bikes to be the first vintage you should own. A simpler air cooled motorcycles without points such as the Kawasaki kz750's is a better choice for first vintage bike. I think this would be a good discussion with Ari, or maybe the silver fox again. I am so glad you are back, and congrats Spurge on the marriage!
Glad you mentioned the Honda Hornet in the "we're not worthy" category. Mostly these type of bikes would be considered low volume for the US market but that's not the case with the Hornet which should be high volume here. At this point I've given up and gave Suzuki my business and while I might have gotten a better bike in the end the Hornet would have been my first choice and I'm dying to know why we've been excluded from purchasing this model? Seriously, just knowing why would give me a lot of satisfaction!
Aye, the boys are back in town
1:02:00 oh no they doubled down. Sure you can throw a ton of power on a standard and compare it to a weaker sport… but I guarantee you an s1000RR will smoke the standard model. Also sport bikes are just cooler. Nothing turns heads like a sport bike and I know first hand because every time I go on group rides with my friends, people only stare at mine.
I wish they would have talked about sport bikes and not super motos, touring and adventure bikes. You can keep your V4's and twin cylinders.
That’s subjective
I couldn’t disagree more , most sportbikes look the same , and it’s ALL feathers, it’s the last bike I check out in a group and many more like me , but I get it you are cool. lol
Whoopy-dooo… Shit to ride on the roads though, ain’t they?
Let 2024 begin, let’s go High Side Low Side!!
Missed you guys! Let's gooo!
I've been interested in the energica experia, but it never seems to make it into your electric mc discussions. While still pricey, it seems to be making steps in the right direction - more mileage and faster charging. I know they don't seem to have much of a dealer network ,which might affect availability, but i keep hoping to see one on daily rider.
Ben. Cool video. I’ve been watching you for years but didn’t know your background. Thanks!!!!!
Yes!! About time !
Lance's take on the motocompacto was vicious but true to me as well. Love it
I’m excited about the Triumph 400s (the 400x including), and wonder how long they’ll make the Speed Triple 1200 RR…love that bike, use it for track mostly, and sadly not selling well.
Re dirt bikes on forest roads: big issue in NJ Pinebarrens. IMO just charge a small fee for entry, use it to maintain environment and track.
yeah 👍 we back
Finally back, can't wait for more in 2024. Keep up with great work and greetings from sLOVEnia 😂😊
I was listening on Spotify and had to come here to say this… I am totally on Spurg’s wavelength when it comes to the XSR900 GP. I had a Gen1 XSR900 and it was awesome, been kicking around getting the new one, but I’m holding out for the GP. Such a cool bike and I’m going to be extremely disappointed if it doesn’t make its way to the US.
I am currently at 2:12:35 in the vid and with the tips provided and using the information gained from an old SRK Motorcycles vid, I am guessing that the mystery motorcycle is a Honda Shadow RS (which I actually want due to said mentioned video).
What is everyone else's guess?
On the topic of new bikes I’m excited for, I’m looking forwards to more information on the CFMoto 675 triple. Disappointed by the new Triumph Daytona 660 but it looks like the CFMoto might be a solid mid-sized sport bike, at least on paper.
Thoroughly enjoyable video. Thanks. Add to list of motorcycles that I would like to see come to the US the Honda NT 1100 DCT. I suppose that puts me in the category of people who liked the Honda NT 700 Deauville when it was new. Nonetheless, the NT 1100 strikes me as potentially very satisfying motorcycle to own.
missed u guys, specially lance 💗
It’s a shame that there are so few beautiful bikes, hopefully we see some more attention paid to design in the future 💙
Love hsls...❤😂 there is a rev. Engine that you guys missed the boat!!.
There was an inline 4 kawasaki. It was a zr7s. It was not the regular z series.. it was a sport touring bike. Just to let you know.. it is definitely a bike sold in the USA. Only know. Because I have one!!
Cf moto 450 mt looks incredible
The category "ADV ergonomics with street tires and lots of HP"
My vote is to call the category 'Power Touring'
I totally agree that you should do a podcast of what the USA gets versus what Europe gets. But how about bikes you get and we don't
Curious about the KTM 890 SMT coming to America this year, seems like great fun. Also interested in the updated Africa Twin.
I’m glad you guys are back! Love the longer pod casts! More the better! But why is no one talking about the ninja 500??
I'd be interested to see how it stacks up to the old EX500r. Kawasaki has had high rpm twins figured out for 40 years.
Zack, Spurge, AND Lance! We are back full throttle for season 8, lets GO! Will Spurge trade Sally the Rally for Daniella Ducati - Rallye!? Glad to see Zack moved out of the garage. I know ADV's are more function over form but I think the Transalp is one of the better looking bikes of the group. I would want to say I'd add the GS but I think its too much bike for me so thinking I'd take the more manageable Transalp. I would be all too happy to add the Aprillia 457 to my garage! When its comes to standards I would have a tough time picking between the Speed and the Scrambler by Triumph, accept no substitutes lol. So would the Speed 400 be better if we let Bruce turbo it? I believe that was I who said it would have been good to also have the Himalayan 450 alongside the Triumph 400's on that trip. That new BMW cruiser looks good, kinda like a blend of the Indian Scout and the FTR. I like the DSRX as well reminds me of the new Moto Guzzi Mandello. Spurge and Lance should do the Dumb and Dumber ride on a Moto Compacto! I would go with R.E. Meteor 650, think thats gonna be a solid and fun bike. Definitely a twin with a pipe, maybe a V-Strom for Spurgeon the Senior? OK little off but I know because I almost bought one for my first bike that is a Honda Shadow Phantom, great hint from Chase there. Or not, wrong on all counts, my losing streak continues. Glad to have you back for another season Old Sports, see you two!
I gotta say, I'm with Lance on the idea of a hybrid motorcycle. A lot of complexity and weight for... The ability to putt around a city a tiny bit with the electric drivetrain? And you still have to keep it supplied with gas and deal with that maintenance? Fuel efficiency isn't really a prime concern for motorcycles anyway, the main benefits of an electric motorcycle are the lack of maintenance and the ability to charge it at home, not that it might be more efficient in low speed situations... If you still have all the gas bike maintenance and have to put gas in it like a regular bike, *plus* it's more expensive than a comparable non-hybrid bike and is higher maintenance, what's the point?
Should we be expecting a new Deauville based on the new Transalp? But no DCT...
Great start to the season. I would really love to see a daily rider with the suzuki g1000sx+ lmnoq (dumb name, interesting bike)
I love Lance, but I am on Spurgeon 's side on batteries. All moto groups need to find one battery! Let's take a hobby that has worked with batteries is RC community. One battery! All companies need to put all eggs into one battery. So all motorcycles can pull up and change fuel source with seconds of wait time and move on. Just me?
Talaria dragon 🔥🔥🔥
Around 2010-2012 I worked with a guy who had the same bike as I did at the time, a first-gen V-Strom 650. In 2013-14 we both got new bikes. I bought a Tiger 800 and he bought an NT700V. One ride on his bike made me realize I made the right choice. However, you'd think with that being the Hawk GT engine, you could make it feel and sound more interesting.
1:50:10 Lance isn't cynical, he's just honest and logical.
I think the NT700 engine has origins in the VLX600 Shadow and early Honda Transalp bikes.
I'm with Spurg on the XSR900. Love the old school GP styling, but I would add the optional lower fairing. With the lower fairing, it looks like Wayne Rainey's YZR500 two stroke.
man, the entire sport bike discussion's only mention of an actual honest motorcycle for sporting purpose was one throwaway comment about a cbr600rr and another passing mention of an rs457, what has the world come to... i love the crossovers but im not sure we needed 20 mins on them! gsx8r anyone?? the zx6r got a revamp too, wheres that! anyone lucky enough to touch an rc8c? daytona660???? helloooooo??? anyone home??
I wouldn't call the Daytona 660 a sportbike... I'm pretty sure we discussed the fact that it's not a Daytona 675 by a long shot. OR maybe that was another upcoming episode... Or maybe it was just IG Live.... Damn us, we're creating too much motorcycle content to keep it all straight.... Either way, long live the original Daytona 675...
@@spurgeondunbar879 completely agree, and if it's in a future ep, hooray! but i didn't hear it here, and it would've been a nice sportbike discussion to have, at least. it's probably going to get raced against rs660s and r7s, so any sportbike category that includes crossovers and excludes actual racing machines is not one I'd subscribe to personally.
Completely agree man. This podcast is alright but they never talk about sport bikes and they clearly don’t understand their appeal. I mean to say an hour in that standard bikes are now sport bikes because they go fast is just a fucking joke.
Daytona 660 is definitely a sport bike what are you smoking?
Seems this was recored loooong ago since they don't mention the triumph 660 daytona or the suzuki 8r
Recorded mid-December, they addressed this very subject (therefore; some recent releases not included) early in the podcast. Did you even watch it?
No mention of the new Sherco 500cc dual sport aimed squarely at KTM's 500excf? No mention of Beta's debut in pro supercross? I'm 45minutes in and they're switching to sportbike discussion, I guess I'll see if they mention something about them toward then end.
the Honda Superhawk was prob my fav bike i've ever owned. One of the best street engines of all time.
Why is no one talking about Verge!? That’s a long-range electric superbike right there.
AND they’re in production. AND they’re selling now in the U.S.
BMW R 12 Cruiser!! Historic, yet no mention?!? Other from that I love your shows!
Zach acts like a grown up when Lance is around! Relax Bud. Also Spurg is the man.
Him-ah-layin or Him-All-yun🤔. Enjoy the HSLS podcasts, keep them coming.
A little of education for my dear and appreciate Revzilla friends/host: The first sport-touring motorcycle (up-right style) was not the Multistrada. It was the Yamaha TDM but never land in USA. Yamaha end the production of the TDM and re-design the model using the MT09 engine and chassis as a platform.
I am really looking forward to trying out the GSX-8R. It ticks every box for me and I can’t wait to *hopefully* add it to my garage. 💙
46:58 European emission guys thats why. Increase displacement to pass Euro 5 Plus regulation now. And Its not over.
I feel like something slow down the electric bike industry because companies can make very good bikes but they don't,in vehicle industry elon boom the car industry thats why companies keep going with electric vehicles.but there are some very good bikes like KTM freeride, energica esse esse,live wire
But unfortunately big company don't want to deliver good electric motorbikes.
Spurge, you made multiple comments about bikes from Japan and Europe that don't make it to America. I have the same frustrated feelings about this but most people just laugh it off if the subject happens to come up. Obviously, there are reasons manufacturer's restrict global distribution of their products, but really what is the reason? Money most likely. Personally, I feel somewhat offended when other markets get what we can't have, the Africa Twin comes to mind. I don't ride off-road much, but on the street at least where I live, I only see 2 types of bikes. Sport bikes, and HD's. That's pretty much it. And these are the bikes I have absolutely no interest in. Europe and other major markets seem to embrace a much wider variety of motorcycles than America. So, maybe they're just afraid of not being able to sell any substantive numbers here.
We do miss out on a lot of other (cheap) bikes due to regulations on emission and safety in Europe. Can't buy a bike without ABS here, I think linked brakes are still allowed for certain classes.
No if it’s not a full fairing, forward leaning bike, it’s not a sport bike! No the speed triple RS is not a sport bike! The non RR models are not sport bikes!
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Zack, if you are gonna go maxi-scoot, you should daily ride Kymco AK550i scooter with parallel twin engine, 15" wheel and 100+ mph capability.
Since you bring up the topic, have I mentioned that I've already put my money down for the F900GS?
CF Moto is a brand that has shown up here on the east coast. I live in Howard County, MD. The Glen Burnie Motorsports dealership has these for sale. I'm much more excited about the new bikes for RE and Triumph that are aimed at bringing more new riders into the fold.
16:18 i bought a 2024 street triple 765 r, and i hated it.
the engine is certainly fun and powerful, but also super buzzy and it gets incredibly hot during warmer days. so much that it feels like my feet are burning through the soles of my riding shoes from how hot the footpegs get.
the dash looks great, but the layout is absolutely terrible. every piece of data i want to see is on different screens that you have to flip through constantly, or just choose one and be ignorant of everything else. literally the worst designed dash i've ever seen on a bike.
the blinker switch is a terrible design. too much pressure and it interprets a long press. too little and it doesn't register at all. then if you don't keep it perfectly centered while trying to cancel, it doesn't register that either.
maintenance is outrageously expensive. and even if you do your own oil changes, you have to bring the bike in and pay them to reset the maintenance interval. or i suppose you could just learn to live with the stupid icon taking up half the information screen, blocking some of the data that would otherwise be there.
worst of all, the bike just died on me out of the blue. riding home one day, the dash just completely shut off for no discernible reason. i was able to ride home no problem (although the blinkers are electronically controlled by the computer, so they stopped working), but now the bike won't start. this just happened, and i haven't been able to get it to the dealer yet.
so i'll never buy another triumph again, and i will advise anyone who will listen to do the same.
1:34:00 this is where you are wrong:
the battery allows you to recoup some of the energy whereas a pure ICE cannot do that.