Best Beginner Motorcycles! Ninja 400 vs Meteor 350 vs CRF300L vs Sondors Metacycle vs G310GS | CTXP

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  • @RevZilla
    @RevZilla  ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Check out the behind the scenes & read more about these Beginner Motorcycles on Common Tread! rvz.la/413SmqN

    • @travelinman482
      @travelinman482 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So, you pick the biggest CC bike for the beginner? 😅😂

    • @marscruz
      @marscruz ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@travelinman482
      It's hard to ignore performance when you are shopping for a motorcycle... even if it is your first bike.

    • @travelinman482
      @travelinman482 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@marscruz
      Yep, especially seasoned riders like Revzilla employees.

    • @blkhwk737
      @blkhwk737 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There is always the option of the Z400 with the Kawasaki. It has a way better riding position, same or even better torque and engine performance and I believe it would give a waaaay more comfortable riding, given it is the track, the Streets, highway or even the desert areas. You guys should give it a try and see how it goes!

    • @marscruz
      @marscruz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@blkhwk737
      The Versys -X300 might be a good bike for a beginner considering it's lighter and not quite as fast. And only $6100. I wonder how it would have done in this challenge against the Beemer and the Himalayan.

  • @dash.d
    @dash.d ปีที่แล้ว +780

    This was one of the rare 40+ minute videos on TH-cam that I started with no intention of watching the whole thing and skipping through sections, but ended up watching the whole video minute-by-minute in one sitting. Excellent quality, and really enjoyable seeing a group of friends competing and having fun.

    • @MRSketch09
      @MRSketch09 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same here honestly. It was a pleasant surprise it turned out better than expected. Good synergy amongst the host.

    • @georgeferguson9779
      @georgeferguson9779 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same thing here.

    • @prabhavjohri1583
      @prabhavjohri1583 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Bro I didn’t even realise that this is 40 min long video….I was thinking it as of 15-18 min long video 😮
      Just observed this when u pointed it out 😅

    • @slimfit767
      @slimfit767 ปีที่แล้ว

      I read your comment and skipped straight to the end.

    • @__7000rpm
      @__7000rpm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same! :)

  • @isaacgandalf
    @isaacgandalf ปีที่แล้ว +609

    As a Ninja 400 owner (since 2019), I completely agree with this review. One thing I would like to add would be the reliability factor: in my 4 years (and 54K Kms) of owning the bike as a daily commuter and weekend mountain runs, it hasn't given me any problems or issues whatsoever.

    • @pravinmurthy
      @pravinmurthy ปีที่แล้ว +52

      The Japanese are most reliable always 🤷‍♀️

    • @stephanematis
      @stephanematis ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Versys 400 (450?) X pleeeeeaaaase!

    • @karlfonner7589
      @karlfonner7589 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, Kawasaki Z 450 scrambler. A Poormans W 800

    • @Tanya_Von-Degurechaff
      @Tanya_Von-Degurechaff ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the entire time you've had it, have you done valve clearance checks? And has it given any valve issues? Thank you!

    • @isaacgandalf
      @isaacgandalf ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Tanya_Von-Degurechaff Surprisingly no valve issues (yet). It is, however, beginning to sound like I may need to replace the shims since there are now faint ticking sounds when the engine is hot. I've had it checked at around 40k Kms but it was still good then.

  • @EstebanDVO
    @EstebanDVO ปีที่แล้ว +1476

    Change my mind: Anyone saying "don't get anything under 600cc or you'll get bored fast" is either a straight line highway rider or hasn't had many bikes.

    • @electragician
      @electragician ปีที่แล้ว +120

      I’ve had my RE Classic 350 for a year now, and have been riding bikes since 1980, more or less.
      I have ludicrous amounts of fun on that little 350.

    • @chinmayadixitNTPH
      @chinmayadixitNTPH ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@electragician the new one or the UCE engine one ?

    • @danghawes
      @danghawes ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Traded sv650 in against the G310GS, which I've had for a year now absolutely love the GS.

    • @electragician
      @electragician ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@chinmayadixitNTPH The new “reborn” one. A 2022 model.

    • @jfess1911
      @jfess1911 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      That is too simplistic. Displacement does not equal horsepower, Engine design and overall weight are very important for performance. Even in this test, the Honda with 290cc easily outran the 349cc Royal Enfield. The KTM 390's and Kawasaki 400 twins are quicker than most V-twin cruisers under 900cc and are very close to stock 1200 sportsters. The Royal Enfield 650's are slower too, but still a lot of fun.
      I have been riding off and on for almost 50 years and currently ride a Z400 because it is light, fun and quick enough for me. For me, light weight and good handling make twisty backroads a lot of fun. Heck, even tootling though neighborhoods with sharp enough turns can be a good time.

  • @stuartr8356
    @stuartr8356 ปีที่แล้ว +492

    As a recent convert to Royal Enfield, it was interesting to see how it compared head to head with its classmates & nice to see it put up a good fight. After owning other bikes, I found it gets back to basics so well & despite being scared by the low power, it actually goes really well in suburban riding. Specs & tests only say so much; motorcycles are about what moves your soul & RE does it for me.

    • @larion2336
      @larion2336 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      It was my favorite as well, also looks the best imo. The repair bill is a major thing, I like the Ninja 400 but imagine paying $350 to replace one scratched fairing... no thanks.

    • @RoamGaming
      @RoamGaming ปีที่แล้ว +40

      They needed one more category judging each of the bikes on how cool they look while driving slow. :) The Enfield crushes the rest in that category.

    • @TictacAddict1
      @TictacAddict1 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I wish the RE Classic 350 was available for the test. As stated above, it would have crushed on style. I have a Himalayan, and at 411cc, this may have been a different test altogether.

    • @stuartr8356
      @stuartr8356 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TictacAddict1 Yup, the Classic seems to be the pick of the 350 range in all the tests I've seen. Love mine :)

    • @brentlanyon4654
      @brentlanyon4654 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well said. A moto or sporty car is about the connection to the road and emotion. Quarter mile specs don't convey that at all.

  • @rabonour
    @rabonour ปีที่แล้ว +1732

    Petition to get the rest of the team on camera more often! Really fun to see the group.

    • @bryanthorne3474
      @bryanthorne3474 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      This group video was one of the most fun things they've done in awhile!

    • @KillaZamii
      @KillaZamii ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@zdc590why not

    • @michaelcooper7123
      @michaelcooper7123 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really enjoyable video to watch 👍👍👍🥇🥇
      Informative & entertaining 😊😊

    • @duroxkilo
      @duroxkilo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      omg dude, hang in there, spring weather is coming :) @@zdc590

  • @karlienicole2617
    @karlienicole2617 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    I have a purple R3, but I found myself rooting for Jen and the Meteor 350! I was also surprised on how close the race was the whole time!

    • @andrewcarnegie5342
      @andrewcarnegie5342 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What's your instagram 🥺🥺

    • @buckshots2dabrain859
      @buckshots2dabrain859 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@andrewcarnegie5342lock in bruh

    • @M4RV3
      @M4RV3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@andrewcarnegie5342we must focus brother

    • @HanSolo__
      @HanSolo__ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She looked gracefully riding the Meteor.

  • @zeve1322086
    @zeve1322086 ปีที่แล้ว +430

    The problem with the drop test is that it doesnt show how tough the bikes really are. As a beginner, I dropped my Meteor 350 three times. Only thing that needed replacing was the brake lever, once. The thing is a tank.

    • @SkinnyBlackout
      @SkinnyBlackout ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Well, it kinda depends on where and how you drop it. I mean, you could get unlucky and drop it on a boulder or something and bust your fuel tank.

    • @BradleyGibbs
      @BradleyGibbs ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@SkinnyBlackout I dropped a Suzuki Inazuma 250 and cracked one of the exhaust pipes, nothing else was damaged...

    • @ErnestoBagsarsa
      @ErnestoBagsarsa ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I think they already accounted for the worst case scenario, that why all the parts that touched the ground was part of the replacement computation.

    • @wgnd1614
      @wgnd1614 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BradleyGibbs thats no what he said tho is it? my english is not perfect so im actually curious

    • @TabJoy7
      @TabJoy7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SkinnyBlackout that's what crash guards are for.

  • @thatlonewolfguy2878
    @thatlonewolfguy2878 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    As someone who wants to get into biking I think I would go for the Meteor tbh, I'm not looking for speed, I love the classic style plus its not too expensive in the repair costs compared to everything else and its not like I would be throwing it around to have reason to repair it constantly, if I had the money to factor in expensive repair costs I would maybe have the GS

    • @HanSolo__
      @HanSolo__ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Which bike did you pick? If you don't have one yet, check 500 ccm offers. 20HP is too little power, and the Enfield is a heavy motorcycle for a 300 class.
      Something like ER 500 or CBF500 are both decent starter choices. Even SV650 is frankly a beginner-friendly motorcycle. If you are looking for a cruiser, such as a Royal Enfield Meteor 300, the Honda VT600C will handle even better than this and its reliability is day and night compared to Enfield.

  • @andrewwelham8633
    @andrewwelham8633 ปีที่แล้ว +501

    You know, even though I own two bikes already, this was one of the best motorcycling videos I have seen in a long time. Because the FUN was there. The sheer unadulterated joy of riding was everywhere in this video. Well done everyone.

    • @1970cutlassS
      @1970cutlassS ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Came to say the same thing. I have 2 bikes and not in the market for any of these and I still couldn't stop watching. Very entertaining and engaging.

    • @motowipeout5670
      @motowipeout5670 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ditto!

    • @ummthatguy
      @ummthatguy ปีที่แล้ว +5

      thats the entire reason i am looking at getting a 400 one of these days. less stress more fun

    • @chiliboom6140
      @chiliboom6140 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just shows it's so nice to have good friends to ride with. Makes it that much more fun

  • @pahulpsg
    @pahulpsg ปีที่แล้ว +125

    This is SUCH a well made video! From concept, to production, to the vibe. Everything is on point. I had a smile on my face throughout the 40 minutes.
    I wish you had included the 390 duke 😁 That was my beginner bike and it can EASILY crush all these tests.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      It would have won the oil change. The oil would already be on the floor.

    • @raghunathattarde960
      @raghunathattarde960 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@chrishart8548 I have no idea what you guys do to that motor. Here in India, they are considered to be pretty bullet proof even in the sweltering tropical heat

    • @OldBeaterGarage
      @OldBeaterGarage ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@raghunathattarde960 It MIGHT be that they're riding at higher speeds. I rode in India (on a RE Himalayan in Uttarakhand & Himachal Pradesh) and it was hard to ride any distance at >100 KPH where here in the States you might not ride slower than that for the bulk of your ride especially outside of Urban areas.

    • @rivercityrambler7751
      @rivercityrambler7751 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@raghunathattarde960never had a problem with my 390 Duke(2022.)
      It has north of 4000 miles on it and I have 4 decades if riding experience and bikes of all sizes including many track days.
      I bought it for mountain roads and I run it.

    • @matijajelic4739
      @matijajelic4739 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed, and having ridden both,
      this test without ktm390/husky401 is a bit, well, inconclusive... :D

  • @bluecollarbuddha948
    @bluecollarbuddha948 ปีที่แล้ว +405

    Kudos to Jen and Patrick for riding the Meteor and Ninja on those dirt sections. Pretty certain I would have binned it.

    • @PlaySA
      @PlaySA ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nahhh dude just two wheel drift that ninja through the dirt corner you'll be fine

    • @VanBourner
      @VanBourner ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I wonder how Himalayan would do here but then there would be no cruiser bike

    • @Lizlodude
      @Lizlodude ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Jen "Jrod" Dunstan I constantly look at jumps and ruts and terrain and think "Oh that doesn't look that bad" before remembering that I'm used to offroading on a mountain bike that weighs like 30 pounds, not 300 😅

    • @jakeedgell591
      @jakeedgell591 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@PlaySA Gotta do some hooligan stuff on the ninja, I agree

    • @ananass8030
      @ananass8030 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Kudos to both but especially Patrick. You have to remember that the first scramblers were just cruisers without fairings, so Jen had a slight advantage.
      Patrick, with his weight, on a sport bike, getting air and curving corners on the dirt is very impressive and a testament of his skill

  • @TheDesiDragon
    @TheDesiDragon ปีที่แล้ว +11

    God this video’s so underrated, especially for someone like me who’s basically decided on a Ninja 400 as his first bike but gets double-minded since each bike has its own little quirks and cool factors

  • @cruze86
    @cruze86 ปีที่แล้ว +460

    Great to see zack and ari back 😊

    • @RovingTrader
      @RovingTrader ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn’t agree more

    • @hisride
      @hisride ปีที่แล้ว +2

      where were they? they haven’t had a break no?

    • @thumpertorque_
      @thumpertorque_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don’t think they left.

    • @hisride
      @hisride ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thumpertorque_ yeah i dont think they did too, dont get what this comment is about

    • @cruze86
      @cruze86 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@hisride bruh! 😒 they haven’t in a video together since a long time that’s why i said that.

  • @marscruz
    @marscruz ปีที่แล้ว +25

    So glad that Zach and Ari are joined at the hip as far as where they work. What a great team. Revzilla has the Dynamic Duo of motorcycling journalists. Don't ever stop. Keep the shiny side up.

  • @crudboy12
    @crudboy12 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    I think the reason the Sondors was so slow was that the claimed torque (if it's even accurate) is direct wheel torque, whereas the rest of the bikes have their engine torque multiplied by the transmission and chain, leading to a much higher wheel torque. It's like starting in 6th gear.

    • @beachdoktor1
      @beachdoktor1 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Sondors deliberately limits the torque on initial acceleration runs by selecting “soft start” throttle mapping on the programming for its controller.
      I assume this is done in an effort to maintain new rider friendliness and long battery life.
      Many high power Electric bikes become uncontrollable stoplight wheelie machines without limiting the throttle mapping as 100% of their torque is delivered at zero rpm.

    • @crudboy12
      @crudboy12 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@beachdoktor1 Some gas bikes do the same thing. In this case, however, the Sondors was fighting for last with a Royal Enfield Meteor 350, so I don't think there was much risk of it being uncontrollable.
      The RE meteor 350 has a first gear drive ratio of approximately 3:1 and a final drive gear ratio of approximately 2.8:1. At the engine's peak torque of 27 NM, the rear wheel is getting 156.6 NM of torque, or 115.5 ft/lbs. That's not far off of what the Sondors claims.
      Accounting for a healthy dose of startup bullshit, and the fact that the two machines were roughly comparable in terms of performance makes a lot of sense.

    • @supersnot4
      @supersnot4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@beachdoktor1 My Zero DSR definitely limits torque from a stop. Gun it from a rolling start though and it takes off like a rocket.
      My brother's FX software is a lot less limiting, and it will power wheelie like nobody's business. Even with over 30 less horsepower, it will beat my DSR from a stop up to about 30.
      Both bikes absolutely have the capability of looping out from a standstill if Zero were to allow 100% torque from a stop.

    • @siraff4461
      @siraff4461 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@beachdoktor1 Most of them don't limit it because they're uncontrollable - most of them do it to keep the transmission in one piece.
      Electric motors make a whole heck of a lot of torque at pretty much zero rpm and if you make a transmission (geared or otherwise) which can take that hit then you have more weight and a lot of extra drag which kills range.
      Since that torque ability drops off so soon they usually build the components to safely take the torque from a few mph because there's no point in having massive final drives or in the Sondors' case internal shafts when that torque is only there at pretty much a standstill.
      Lets be honest too - this thing couldn't keep with a Meteor 350 so there is no uncontrollable excuse on the planet thats going to wash.

    • @SirNarax
      @SirNarax ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crudboy12 I don't have direct experience with these particular bikes but it is also possible that Sondors did that because of how electric motorcycles deliver their power rather than how much. Electric motors can put their power down much faster than a ICE motor can and that can and has caused issues for others. Although I think it is more likely that this is just a case of Sondors playing games with the spec sheets. I am not EV apathetic as a matter of fact I am planning on getting an EV. I also think the Sondors is a decent bike but they have already demonstrated themselves to be somewhat untrustworthy. Conjecture of course I know nothing.

  • @inquisitive6786
    @inquisitive6786 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Jen on the RE smashed everyone on the looks/style (while riding) department though, looked the coolest during the drag race which was the closest they came to cruising

  • @awenindoe
    @awenindoe ปีที่แล้ว +93

    This is how all bike comparos should be done. Wasn't bored for a moment in a 42 minute video. Amazing stuff!

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Most just read off the spec sheets and decided one is better only based on certain things. That favour the bike they want to win.

  • @Hamilcar_Stronginthearm
    @Hamilcar_Stronginthearm ปีที่แล้ว +42

    To be fair, that last test also depended a lot on rider skill. I'm sure you're all good riders, but I'd have been interested to see the range of finishing orders if you're all swapped bikes.

  • @TehFrenchy29
    @TehFrenchy29 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    I ride a Meteor 350 myself as someone who only just first bought a motorcycle last summer, and I love it. I don't have nearly the time or the distance spent on the bike I'd like to at this point between a bad leg injury, a colder than usual winter, and now a bunch of road construction repaving my entire street -- but I am so eager to spend time in the saddle this year and develop my skills and confidence. What little time I have been able to spend on the bike has been lovely. Every now and then I even go out to the garage just to sit on it, or sit and look at it.
    Ari had it right in the conclusion, it has so much charm and presence for a fairly small little bike, and while I'm riding it at least I'm not at all bothered by relatively high weight or low power for its size; it's comfortable, it's pleasant, it's fun, it's surprisingly light and nimble feeling to maneuver. Of the five bikes in the video before and after the tests I stand by my choice and love my little RE, and I was quite happy actually that watching the video didn't sway me at all in my decision it made me even more confident that while each of the bikes is a great choice and the right bike for someone I already have the best of the five options possible for me.

    • @nonsononessunooko4066
      @nonsononessunooko4066 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      i got RE classic they are both awesome

    • @TagachisTroll
      @TagachisTroll ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@nonsononessunooko4066 I got the RE Classic too!! But have to say that it was a hard decision to make! I'm still learning, and was really happy that it was Jen the one who got the RE!

    • @CyberChrist
      @CyberChrist ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Air-cooled engines make winters a bit warmer ^^
      (Ducati exhaust loops too, lol)

    • @TehFrenchy29
      @TehFrenchy29 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Jen "Jrod" Dunstan It really is. I even have it in the same Fireball Yellow you rode for the video which I find kind of amusing.

    • @TheMaskedheel
      @TheMaskedheel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I fell in love with the RE classic but after research I went and bought the Int650 Mk2. My first bike as well. It came down to I have highway driving in Texas no city area near me.

  • @thamomentum
    @thamomentum ปีที่แล้ว +9

    These are the type of videos that keep my love for motorcycles alive

  • @ShadowRaptor8
    @ShadowRaptor8 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Absolutely love my KRT green Ninja 400, which is my first bike. The only problem is that it looks faster than it is, not sure why everyone thinks I'm trying to race them. But being able to go full throttle and not die in the SoCal canyons makes it so fun.

    • @kkattrap
      @kkattrap ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Little sport bikes are king on tight and twisty California back roads, no one can convince me otherwise.

    • @mauricesoulis1590
      @mauricesoulis1590 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kkattrapagreed! I’m in sf Area n my modded 08’ 250 ninja is ideal for lots of riding styles- 👍👍

  • @redbarond1
    @redbarond1 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Yet AGAIN, the Revzilla team has created one of my favorite videos about motorcycling. I love how informative, entertaining, and generally, well-produced this content is, and I constantly look forward to seeing more from the team!

  • @frankensteinsgarage9632
    @frankensteinsgarage9632 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    What this test shows is all small bikes are fun and whats most important is getting out with your mates. Cheers for the content guys.

  • @MRSketch09
    @MRSketch09 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I thought it was AWESOME, how you displayed all the metrics for the bikes, lined up. THAT was a really cool little video effect, & was very easy to get all the info you'd want at first glance.
    And you know what, the rest of the video turned out more fun & informative than I expected.
    What a cool little project you guys put together.

  • @chrispeacock3550
    @chrispeacock3550 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    Just a note: the Metacycle has 130Nm peak from its rear hub mounted motor. The Meteor 350 has 27Nm at the crankshaft times 2.3 for the primary drive, times 2.6 for 1st gear reduction, times 2.8 for the final drive - making a total of 452Nm of torque at the back wheel (@ 4,000rpm in 1st gear). Of course the Metacycle came last!

    • @Ijusthopeitsquick
      @Ijusthopeitsquick ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Thanks for pointing that out. People - even professional testers - often confuse engine crankshaft torque and rear wheel torque, especially now that several e bikes use hub motors where the motor and the wheel are basically the same thing...

    • @Tonyx.yt.
      @Tonyx.yt. ปีที่แล้ว +13

      yep, exactly like Tesla brag about Tesla Roadster with 10000 nm of torque, yes but at the wheel... that's just misleading marketing

    • @LTVoyager
      @LTVoyager ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@Tonyx.yt. But Tesla’s win drag races, they don’t come in last.

    • @jimmyneutron5679
      @jimmyneutron5679 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LTVoyager Not once a vehicle is similar in hp

    • @LTVoyager
      @LTVoyager ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jimmyneutron5679 Similar HP electric will still win as the torque curve is more appropriate for drag racing.

  • @RiderXp
    @RiderXp ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I actually got to ride the Meteor 350 on my last trip to India and was pretty impressed with how much Royal Enfield has improved from what they used to be back in the day.

  • @rajivvishwa
    @rajivvishwa ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Looks like a group of friends having fun producing a high quality video :) Was initially planning to skim through a 42min video but ended up watching the whole thing.

  • @Ceremyjohen
    @Ceremyjohen ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff! This is rare for me to comment on any TH-cam video, let alone a motorcycle video. I am providing my cost to repair after dropping my used Triumph Trident 660 twice within two days.
    OEM front brake lever - $70
    OEM rear brake pedal - $129
    OEM Bar End Finishers (x2 as the ones on the bike were aftermarket) - $52
    DIY install - $251 total.
    Extras:
    Amazon levers - $29
    OEM frame sliders - $152
    I’m keeping and displaying the mangled parts as an example of what not to do!

  • @Xyz12391
    @Xyz12391 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    It would have been interesting to see which motorcycle they would have picked, if given the option. Then see if they still felt good about their pick at the end of the video. Similar to what new riders go through when picking their first bike. Great video as always!

    • @PlaySA
      @PlaySA ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That would've been pretty cool, if the person who draws number one from the hat gets the first choice, then number 2 etc. But, the randomness was fun too. And the top two would've definitely been the BMW and the Ninja, with the Sondors no doubt going dead last.

    • @patrickkorn5034
      @patrickkorn5034 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Pretty sure the picks were staged.

  • @SagarSheldekarOfficial
    @SagarSheldekarOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You guys have clearly mastered the art of keeping your viewers hooked irrespective of the motorcycles you are riding. Simple, authentic and pure motorcyclists for the win!

  • @michaelbennett1978
    @michaelbennett1978 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Great group ride! Great beginning for a series, next would be bikes between 500-1000 cc.I recalculated the test scores, Jen gets 10 points for doing the most with the least and WINS!!

  • @jonmnelson
    @jonmnelson ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Owning a G650GS, I enjoyed seeing how well the G310 did. Great video.

  • @OmiP42
    @OmiP42 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Proud of the two Indian bikes on there :) I've ridden them (RE and GS) both and i gotta tell ya, the Indian motorcycle market has some of the toughest competition out there. These are some of the best motorcycles I've ridden and they're a great choice for any beginners out there.

    • @waynebrissette9459
      @waynebrissette9459 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I also think it would have been interesting to swap out the Metor with either the Classic 350, Hunter, or Himalayan, but I think for this test they wanted to have a cruiser, sportbike, ADV, dual-sport, and electric. As the owner of several bikes including a beefy 1250 GSA, I'm still jumping on my Classic and Himalayan to have fun. I think RE is on a roll with things and the US market is really just now opening up for them.

    • @shannonkerr2313
      @shannonkerr2313 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a '22 himi and I ❤ it. I put 1500 miles on it in the first month I owned it. My understanding is that RE is coming out with either a 450 or 650 as an update. I hope that they keep them oil-cooled thumpers with NO tech. I get complements on my bike all the time from old guys that think it is an old bike. They can't believe it when I tell them it's a '22.

    • @swapnilp5774
      @swapnilp5774 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shannonkerr2313 That's the USP of RE. Classic design language.

  • @PeterLynas-k3p
    @PeterLynas-k3p ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Guys, this was one of my favorite Rev videos EVER. Would absolutely love to see this format for all sorts of different level bikes, maybe a second bike video next? Thanks for the video, great stuff!

  • @MotoREEngr
    @MotoREEngr ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love how even though the tally sheet tells the "most capable" and "must-a-choice bike", they still highlight and compliment them at the end of the video.
    There is no perfect bike, only perfect moments with your bike of choice.

  • @Willowcreek19
    @Willowcreek19 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just do what I did. Xr 80 - xr350- xr600 -gsx750r- banshee350-XR650r . Im stickin with the 650r till bmw time ;)

  • @utkarshsrivastava2639
    @utkarshsrivastava2639 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    9:08, When you told that RE meteor is heaviest, i was like how is it possible. I own meteor and it feels lighter then my other same range bikes. But now i know why.
    BTW great video 👍👍

  • @kawabungah20
    @kawabungah20 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another CTXP gem. What a great way to compare motorcycles. What a team of riders to inspire us! RevZilla has, yet again, raised the bar for Moto journalism. For me, I'll take the Ninja 400. Patrick proved it can do everything!

  • @jacobleyva2572
    @jacobleyva2572 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I’m happy to see the 310gs rank fairly high up there. It’s a fun little bike and makes for a surprisingly good street legal dirt bike

    • @norbertovillarealiii6750
      @norbertovillarealiii6750 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      until you put it against others in its class.

    • @Ntmoffi
      @Ntmoffi ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I like that it's on here for a small ADV bike. BUT I wish its spot was taken up by the 390 adventure. The KTM is better in every way.

    • @norbertovillarealiii6750
      @norbertovillarealiii6750 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Ntmoffi the 390 adv will demolish it in performance and value.

    • @Ntmoffi
      @Ntmoffi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@norbertovillarealiii6750 💯✅

    • @memewizard8372
      @memewizard8372 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Knock knock, KTM head gasket

  • @dailyrider2975
    @dailyrider2975 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my first beginner bike was used 2015 Honda ctx700n DCT I got for $4k and 9k miles. Low seat height, simple controls and dash. very stable and easy to ride. Bonus 60+mpg around town.

  • @moelover3462
    @moelover3462 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I got a G310GS because I wanted to try a little bit of every kind of riding, and I'm really glad I did. It's not the fastest or the offroadiest bike, but it has done everything I've asked it to with no complaints.

    • @waynebrissette9459
      @waynebrissette9459 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 310 unfortunately suffers in the same area the Himalayan does, HP. You're never going to win a speed race with either of them, but they are great bike choices. I've been riding for over 40 years now and still find myself on my smaller bikes more often than my big GSA for a lot of tasks.

  • @jamesnoonan7450
    @jamesnoonan7450 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My first bike was and still is the Royal Enfield Meteor 350. Honestly, it is an unbelievably amazing machine. I would highly recommend it to new riders like myself.

  • @AndrewChristopherEnriquez
    @AndrewChristopherEnriquez ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Dang I love this episode even better than the last! How do you guys consistently knock it out of the park with the quality content! Really awesome job showing off how fun beginner bikes can be!

  • @DarkIzo
    @DarkIzo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wish you guys also included a "off the bike manouvering" test as well as pointing out comfort and confidence when riding in situations (twisties, urban, offroad)
    other than that, great video, was a joy to watch and its always good to get new people into riding with good recommendations

  • @Mionwang
    @Mionwang ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I really hope this is not the last video of this series! Next do midrange bikes and then keep going higher.

  • @torrid94
    @torrid94 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was such a great episode. Great to see a bunch of friends just having fun on two wheels.

  • @sarge12k
    @sarge12k ปีที่แล้ว +8

    11:14 I want to mention that I had a friend crash his Meteor 350 at just 40kmph, but on the right side. His repair bill came up to 75k Indian Rupees approx (a third of the cost of the bike). The whole exhaust, both master cylinders and the metal parts added up big time. Meanwhile my Yamaha R15 crashed at 80kmph and I spent less than 4k INR because the fairings kept the pricey bits away from the tarmac.

    • @sarge12k
      @sarge12k ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jrodracing70 Pleasure's 100% mine, Jen! Awesome work by you and the team on this video!

  • @999benhonda
    @999benhonda ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Other viewers being impressed by one bike or another...me sitting here impressed by Jen. She seems like a cool lady.

  • @RoyMiller.69420
    @RoyMiller.69420 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    So glad to see both the G310GS and Meteor here, they are really cool bikes tbh

    • @stmboat
      @stmboat ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ive wanted a meteor since I heard about them all those years ago

    • @TehFrenchy29
      @TehFrenchy29 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stmboat I own one myself as my first bike (even the same Fireball Yellow colour way Jen is riding in the video) and I love it. Going in I expected it would probably come last in the testing overall, and was pleasantly surprised how well it did in the first two tests because I haven't done any accessory or replacement parts buying (and haven't dropped it yet), but of the five bikes presented if I had to pick one all over again to buy for myself it would still be the Meteor. I just love it to bits. Ari has it right in the conclusion, even though it's heavy and slow and the maintenance is inconvenient to say the least it's just so endlessly charming and pleasant to spend time on.
      Though I will say the idea of a more do-it-all adventure like the G310s is pretty appealing as well and would definitely be my choice if I were to pick a SECOND bike out of the same list.

    • @JoshuaTootell
      @JoshuaTootell ปีที่แล้ว

      I've got no interest in the Meteor.
      But every time I see an RE, I do a head turn. They definitely have curb appeal for sure.
      Ok, I would definitely consider a GT, if I was in that market.

    • @waynebrissette9459
      @waynebrissette9459 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JoshuaTootell : for city commuting, something like the Metor or Classic 350 is the perfect choice. However, if you need to blow down the highway, neither are going to impress you. But as the owner of a Classic 350, it turns heads like nobody's business. I think the old school charm simply wins people over. As somebody who owns big and small bikes, I can say there's a place for both.

    • @JoshuaTootell
      @JoshuaTootell ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, I just don't have a need or want for that. I'm mostly a track rider. To the point I don't even know why I have a street GSXR, I should just put track plastics on it. But I also have a 50cc track bike ​@@waynebrissette9459

  • @Feintgames
    @Feintgames ปีที่แล้ว +9

    17:03, Jen's build up and then her laugh after she wins against the sondors was the highlight of my week. I rewatched that like 5 times and laughed so hard each time. Omg that was awesome and hilarious. Great camera angle too. That never works out usually but it did this time. Kudos to the person who placed Jen's camera.

  • @seanylewl
    @seanylewl ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Absolutely wonderful video, the best part was seeing the whole gang together having a blast. More team videos like this!

  • @kaichen7907
    @kaichen7907 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Im suppose to be studying for finals but instead I'm watching the beginner bike shoot out...Loving this episode. Yes like someone mentioned, definitely get the group together more often.

  • @davidrochow9382
    @davidrochow9382 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Having owned a Ninja 250 and a Royal Enfield 500 I would have to choose the Ninja 400 and the RE ( but in the classic 350 style with dirt tyres as these make a great dual sport bike). With my type of riding these 2 would cover every type of riding I would need. The 400 for when I need a bit of speed and the 350 when I want a bit of class.

  • @andreasbeaufort3594
    @andreasbeaufort3594 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When the video started, I was already rooting for the Ninja. As a former Ninja 300 owner, I was truly astounded by the 400's performance and overall usability. Needless to say I was happy to see it won, right? LOL Thanks for another excellent video, guys!

  • @sneww4282
    @sneww4282 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    While there is a place for this category of bikes, whenever I'm talking to someone thinking about getting into riding, my usual suggestion is to buy used. Usually you can keep it for a year, put some miles on it, and when you are ready to upgrade, sell it for nearly the same money that you paid for it. many people don't realize that bikes hold value much better than cars do, but the transition from new to used still comes with a good chunk of depreciation.

    • @TehFrenchy29
      @TehFrenchy29 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's a sort of comfort in knowing your bike is new from the dealer, still under warranty, and you can go through the dealer no questions asked for all sorts of maintenance needs and part replacement and so on. As well as not needing to wonder what the previous owner did or did not do to the bike during their time with it. Especially as a new rider without the experience on bikes and around bikes, there are a lot of extra potential pitfalls buying used. BUT obviously you're right there are very many great used bikes similar to (or even exactly for the four gas machines) the bikes in the video, and you can get them for a lot cheaper than buying the new one. There's effectively a huge surcharge for that confidence and convenience at the dealership as opposed to buying second-hand.

  • @markkitaoka8783
    @markkitaoka8783 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's tough to put into words how well you all do these things. The trips up to Alaska, taking old bikes only off road, carrying them across pavement. I'll be doing a piece called "A to Z - The Joys of Motorcycling." As in Ari to Zack....

  • @louislopez55
    @louislopez55 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That was one of the most watchable videos your team has ever done, very enjoyable, interesting and fun! Even a non-motorcyclist would be impressed!

  • @nbartell777
    @nbartell777 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Such a great and entertaining video. Loved every second of it and walked away with a few more tokens of knowledge to boot! Would love to see a series come of this with differing barriers for entry as far as skill and price point. Even running the exact same tests would be fun to see again with a few beefier offerings. Fantastic work team! I’ll be looking out for more content like this for sure

  • @Emryanbjj
    @Emryanbjj ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had my heart set on a ninja 400 as my first bike, ended up getting a second hand Honda CBR250R. And then I couldn’t decide between the ninja400 or the meteor 350 as a second bike, this just made that choice even harder! 😂

    • @JoshuaTootell
      @JoshuaTootell ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't use logic, use emotions.

  • @markromano8488
    @markromano8488 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great and entertaining video! After learning riding basics on a CSC San Gabriel, the girlfriend bought a Ninja 400, for her first "real" bike. 2 years and 30,000 miles later, she was ready to step up to a bigger bike, but then reconsidered. So far, she's gone on a 2,000 mile road trip, ridden Southern California canyons, and gone 100 mph on the Ninja. It fits her, she's completely comfortable, and it has done everything she's ever asked of it. So...she bought another one! Great bike.

  • @John_Ridley
    @John_Ridley ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love RevZilla. I buy everything i can there because of the support they give back to us through these videos, the fests they participate in and common tread.

  • @Lizlodude
    @Lizlodude ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice to see more of the team in a CTXP!
    The fact that Zach's foot-push start actually helped is amazing XD
    Also that drop from the stoppy at 19:00 sounded like a bicycle lol, I really wish more electric motorcycles were better😭

  • @themuz3
    @themuz3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love this series. The Alaska CTXP nudged me towards buying a ct125. I wish more people would experience what 'small' bikes have to offer.

  • @OrlandoClark
    @OrlandoClark ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not gonna lie, I was skeptical as to how entertaining this would be… I was pleasantly surprised! Awesome job as always!!

  • @linelevelmedia7357
    @linelevelmedia7357 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Loved the challenges in this video, thanks to the whole team for making such great content for the motorcycle community!

  • @___DannyBoyka
    @___DannyBoyka ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought it to be a normal , boring comparison video...but what a treat I was surprised with !! Great great vid team!

  • @vintageludwig
    @vintageludwig ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was actually a great test with comprehensive and consistent results! Thoroughly enjoyed it!

  • @Apollyon67
    @Apollyon67 ปีที่แล้ว

    I clicked out of curiosity and watched the whole thing without realizing it was over 40 minutes long. Nicely done and well represented by real people.

  • @Ruchir1712
    @Ruchir1712 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm glad the algorithm recommended this video! Watching this was so much fun you guys! 😂

  • @motorings735
    @motorings735 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the videos y’all have been making lately, especially Ari’s ASMR bike restorations 🛠️. It’s good to see motorcycle content that really drives home the point that no matter what you’re riding, it’s always fun just to be out on two wheels, especially with good company. ❤

  • @5KYman
    @5KYman ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please bring this series back again - would really love to see some more contenders like the KTM duke 390/390 adventure, z400, etc. Also, please highlight reliability here because some bikes might actually win the competition based on reliability alone.

  • @laurenwidner8629
    @laurenwidner8629 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Amazingly fun video setup, so good to see Zach and Ari again!
    PS the writers need a raise for those great titles ;)

  • @haha__cool_yes
    @haha__cool_yes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve been riding an R3 for three years, I weigh 230lbs, and I can’t wait to keep this bike for years and years to come! Small bikes are such a riot and I’ll never get bored of hearing a tiny twin scream its head off

  • @identiticrisis
    @identiticrisis ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great concept, entertaining and informative execution!
    I think that with the choice of tests, the scoring only really shows how "compromised" the two bikes in last place are; or rather, how much more focused they are in their respective niches. The Honda is soft and friendly for trail and city use and the Royal Enfield is intended to be more of a laid-back "vintage experience" on a budget. Neither are really the peak of today's do-it-all machines, but certainly each represents much of what bikes do best and also offer a slightly different flavour from the norm.
    The Sondors coming mid pack probably shows that electric really works for an everyday bike, amazing actually.
    Ultimately, the fact that the Ninja won shows that the old maxim in biking still holds true: he who has the most power, stays out front :D

  • @luhaarunk3085
    @luhaarunk3085 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Other motorcycle reviewers have got a lot to learn form this video. Hope such tests are adopted by other publications in their comparo too. Great job Revzilla!!!!

  • @claytoncausey5792
    @claytoncausey5792 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is one of the best videos I have seen that is informative on getting people into the hobby and also wildly entertaining for those already in it, you touch upon a huge range of styles of riding and their pros and cons while making it a joy to watch and learn. Very good work guys!

  • @MrJeepinZeke
    @MrJeepinZeke ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was awesome!!! Great to see Zach and Ari on an adventure again but loved seeing SpUrGeN DuNbAr, Jen, and Patrick too!!

  • @Hybris51129
    @Hybris51129 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I don't ride motorcycles but I am doing research for a book I am writing and videos like this are invaluable for research and tweaking how I should write about the vehicles my characters are riding.

  • @antonyjohns
    @antonyjohns ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jen 👍🏻👍🏻 hats off. She exclld in tht offroad section with meteor a cruiser.

  • @JerryR390
    @JerryR390 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hands down one of the best videos on youtube at the moment, almost perfect review (other than the selection of bikes, but ok under 6k), nice hosts, nice challenges. Great work guys!!!!!

  • @kevinjohnston994
    @kevinjohnston994 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ninja 400 first biker here. This bike has been a privilege to put ~5,000 miles on as my first motorcycle ever and I am happy I got this over any other bike!!!!

  • @shahan1465
    @shahan1465 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man I was so confused what to buy as my new bike. Massive thanks to Revzilla

  • @serioussahil
    @serioussahil ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitely the most fun CTXP episode ever, and thank you for not torturing Zack and Ari this time 😇

  • @bananasaur5209
    @bananasaur5209 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I did my riding classes and exam on a Ninja 400. Super cool and super fun but also super uncomfortable for me. I never knew of the Sondors or RE Meteor 350. They look nice, I'll have to try them sometime!

  • @stinkerdoodle1737
    @stinkerdoodle1737 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for showing the fun of riding a small bike (while I don't own one I can appreciate them still) I love all the stuff all you guys do. Thanks to helping motorcycling with great content.

  • @adrianmandra3683
    @adrianmandra3683 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This group has "original Top Gear" like potential. Loved it, keep it going! Also, I'm keeping my hopes up that Revzillla will open a European store (at least Online).

    • @wickedleeloopy2115
      @wickedleeloopy2115 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes I was hoping they would make fun of each other a bit more 😂

  • @mattwilliams7454
    @mattwilliams7454 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The pick up test was very helpful thank you guys so much

  • @jalex19100
    @jalex19100 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Huge Zach, Ari and Spurg fan!! Love this collaboration with all of our favorite Revzilla creators. The video shots from all of the different riders was excellent. And challenges were hilarious and entertaining. This was great.

  • @venkatadri1299
    @venkatadri1299 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Riding meteor 350 in conditions like that requires skill. Jen won the test for me. But it's so satisfying to watch Ninja just ripping through everybody on tarmac

  • @jhooton75
    @jhooton75 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another great production from CTXP! And it was awesome to see Jen, Patrick,, and Spurge in the video (as well as Zack and Ari of course). Keep up the awesome work.

  • @09RHYS
    @09RHYS ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, top notch production guys! Thoroughly enjoyed it all, from start to finish and learnt some great things so thank you! As for me I went with the high performance liquid cooled (2016) YAMAHA WR125X SuperMoto & I have to say it it the best investment I've ever made! Such exceptional control, perelli speed demon tyres which feel like literal glue on the road (also went tech 7 drystar and have to say it feels incredible to ride ever since, you feel completely planted on the pegs no matter what position & fully waterproof peace of mind!) It is such a shame that the only manufacturer left doing a 125 Road Legal SuperMoto is Aprilia these days...
    I've also stuck to 125's due to just loving this model sooo much, I'm not about speed tbh, I just love twistys and scrapping around a/b road country lanes in the UK. I will however totally look to an ADV (Loving the BMW & KTM 300-600cc Models) as they clearly are the best for an all terrain premium experience, especially on the road with all that aerodynamic fairing which SuperMoto's lack, or I may go to another higher cc SuperMoto...
    I also went all out on all tools needed, to save hundreds in repair & labour costs and a Haynes specific Yamaha WR125 manual (definitely worth it's weight in gold if not even more so!) And now fully self suffiecient, and you're so right about it being calming & therapeutic for the mind.
    Found a new love for engineering & mechanical work now honestly, and I'm not sure I would have done it all that way if not for you expertise & brilliant videos covering everything. 🙏🏻
    Love to see it & keep up the excellent work you all do!
    Greetings from the UK my fellow Bikers and have a brilliant year to the entire team at @RevZilla 👊🏻😃❤️

  • @NeshangShrestha
    @NeshangShrestha ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Where’s our favorite ktm duke 390

    • @ridinggravity703
      @ridinggravity703 ปีที่แล้ว

      looks like the ninja and the bmw took the spot over it

    • @EstebanDVO
      @EstebanDVO ปีที่แล้ว +29

      You want something reliable if you want a first bike.

    • @cruze86
      @cruze86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EstebanDVO lol 😂

    • @512mbflashdrive
      @512mbflashdrive ปีที่แล้ว +11

      would get a little tedious if the duke won EVERY beginner bike competition, let's be honest

    • @ogbean82
      @ogbean82 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Duke will leave you stranded.... 🤦‍♂️

  • @stephenschneider9209
    @stephenschneider9209 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my favorite channels and definitely the best place to buy all things motorcycle. You guys are fun and so knowledgeable your passion shines through.

  • @alwaystinkering7710
    @alwaystinkering7710 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My face hurts from smiling for 40 minutes! I wanted to be there and ride with you!

  • @b1232r
    @b1232r ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A+ well done, even pulled this up on my phone when my dog asked to go out. Couldn't stop watching.

  • @therealturbofanisme
    @therealturbofanisme ปีที่แล้ว +2

    legitimately impressed at how fast y'all took the Enfield and the Ninja through those whoops hahahaha

  • @danieljames1921
    @danieljames1921 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. I found the comparison entertaining. Found it interesting that the only two bikes I would be interested in tied for 4th place. Keep the videos coming..

  • @phunkstar7347
    @phunkstar7347 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What an awesome video.
    would be nice if you included an fuel consumption test. Or tested the fuel mileage on the last test. Maybe with fuel prices to compare it to the electric.

  • @antoniostantis7862
    @antoniostantis7862 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was really entertaining to watch and kudos for comparing the overall experience and capability of these bikes in total !!