How to Carry From Support | Live Coaching Crusader 5
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- BSJ Live Coaching Crusader 5
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Live coaching is one of the best things about this channel. More please!
I like the live coaching even more when bsj forces himself to sticking to the players camera. That way we learn more about information priority. What do you need to know vs what is nice to know.
And it is even more stressful for the player which I consider to be quality entertainment :D
Absolutely agree! These are my favorite videos BSJ is making
Couldn't agree more. This is exactly what I was waiting for
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The lower the mmr the more you need to farm as a support.
Your team will never play that efficiently that the every part of the map is getting farmed.
But the higher you go the more you will see map utilization and the less you have to farm.
I went from Crusader to high Legend. My farm as a support went way down, there's just less shit I can go to farm myself, everything's pushed and farmed.
@@SinisterMJ that just means you need to start doing real support stuff more but never stop farming if you found opportunities to farm. In pubs the team with the higher networth usually wins... even pos 5 or 4 are part of that networth increase it.
Higher mmr know how to get farm without farming, warding , stacking and not dieing is the best way to increase networth/mmr as support otherwise ur hurting ur team by farming... unless ur crusader or below 😂
farming is ok - afk farming without tping ever is herald shit
@@kp2nator Thats not entirely true. If you look at the stats for support heros, the higher in rank you go, the lower the networth graph. A low level support can just farm more cause there's more available on the map, the cores are a lot less efficient. Example:
Core Luna, Herald, 20 mins: avg 7362g
Core Luna, Divine, 20 mins: 9490g
Support Warlock, Herald, 20 mins: avg 4344g
Support Warlock, Divine, 20 mins: avg 3931g
Its not that the Divine support doesn't know how to last hit / farm, its just that there is nothing available for him.
The sniper is now like "I am an amazing sniper, the best, I am so good valve highlighted me with this blue sphere to show how good I am, but it's only me the team sucks no support gg."
I'm a crusader 5 myself and a support too, and I have to say I learn a lot from these videos. In this particular one, tho, what I notice is that BSJ wins the game based basically on his game/map awareness and understanding where people are and where they should be, which is a skill sooo hard to practice.
Don't click here th-cam.com/video/aB0RaQdY-lQ/w-d-xo.html
I guess that essentially what this video is about is: pushing the side lanes and taking the farm that your team is missing at the same time + avoiding all the stupid shit.
@@Sc0pee yeah for sure. literally do what's necessary and avoid making mistakes. if you can play without making big mistakes, and wait to pounce for when the enemy team makes a big mistake, i'm noticing you'll win 80% of games until the mistakes stop being so huge. i'd think like 3k for big ones probably
Live coach on support player feel much better then on core, it’s still kind of stressful though.
Nice Vid and pog for the cm guy also.
I would love more Support offlane Videos. I'm still struggeling to find a good balance between farming camps and making moves, especially when I feel like I'm taking away the camps from my team
Pos 4 supports heavily depends on your matchups with your team and hero.
I can help you give more insights on how to play pos 4 efficiently. Just message me
litearlly like in this game: if you cant do jack shit and theres lanes to farm, go farm those lanes
(small edit: depends of rank ofc, also lanes/camps that are not near any core, like the cm farming the bot lane 40 minuts cuz neither naga nor sniper even thought about going down there)
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you can combine these two if you have some survivability, like ogre, cm or kotl with glimemr etc, and be bait for your team
either you get farm and push out waves or take away enemy jungle or your team gets either a pickoff or only loses a support
BSJ: that's a lot of ult damage , good thing you got the talent.
Gordon Ramsay: Too much salt , man!! 🤣
Thank you for doing more support videos! :)
It´s quite sad, that carry players in our rank are doing the same (being in jungle/chasing and feeding), while lanes are pushed towards us. Then there start blaming of support being on lane and literraly the only one, who push the lane back :)
depends on people but i ve seen also winter wyvern/jakiro with boots of travel first item (or second) shoving lanes immediately, like... we are in fight and they instant tp (without pointing out and asking the cores to do so). Well, I am a support and i usually spam "defend tower", if nobody goes, I tp then
Me encanto esta sesión de coaching. Por favor continua haciendolas en las medallas de cruzado y arconte. Saludos desde Cuba
360p crew
If I play like this my team quits
2k dota - telling your teammates to take Roshan is like telling them to do the dishes.
bsj reaction to the 2k plays are just amazing 😂
My core starts pinging and flaming if I am on another side of the map and they are dying in team fights.
Just remember that if they were good enough to know how to correctly play both their own and your hero at the same time, they would be in a higher bracket
Bsj:"Buy yourself a clarity, have a sense of Urgency"
Guy: "my Courier is dead"
Bsj: "gg"
😂😂😂
Why cm doesn't buy wand? Db and pugna always cast spell. Just want to clarify. Thanks
Oh nooooo!! I physically cringed aggressively when he took the +50 freezing field damage over the 200 attack speed =(
I'll be honest- I was a ride or die core player since I started playing Dota but the educational smurf and the live coaching that you do for support players might eventually get me to buy a ward some day (also this is superb content)
360 is best resolution apparently
It'll fix soon
"I wanna remind you and everyone watching, that there is absolutely nothing you can do about that Slardar. That is some Pepega shit". Holy shit this comment alone his gonna help my mentality so much. Sometimes I feel like I have to fix a player in order to win a game; instead I just have to focus on my own game.
10:50 use all your spells
me: Noted, ULT USED
Anytime i miss even a single fight my team pings and insults me like crazy then proceeds go jist sit in fountain and giv up
the 360 no scope is the real deal
Which minute mark lmao
@@jerrylalrinmawia3501 that's 360p early watchers reference so people can laugh a bit and forget their everyday problems.
Lina just yolo taking the outpost... kinda respect it. :D
would be super helpful to explain when you see why the fights are being taken so bad, what is so bad and how the team would need to fight differently. not much time to do this in live coaching but after the game is over it would be really good to hear why and what on those parts that didn't get the time before to be explained
There was a couple moments where I really wanted him to force staff in, ult and glimmer to change the direction of a fight in a huge way. But other than that I learned a lot about how to play cm. Nice!
And you'll notice BSJ advised against using said ult because the moment you do that vs anyone with a brain you get stunned
@@no3ironman11100 Hence the glimmer, or wait till straight disables are used then go. Even if you take the focus for a second or two, that can often be a fight changer in itself. Especially after your carry's bkb wears off, and they stun you instead of him.
I love life coaching! Actually watched this vid live, it was hilarious) If I subscribe to patreon, would I be able to see all of them?
Not every coaching session is live coaching. Most are replays. But yes they all go up on patreon
As a divine 1 player, though I'm a midlaner, usually I win my games as pos 5/4 because I know how annoying/important a support can be by doing what a pos1/2 in the map, but buying a linken to prevent my carry dies that was new for me.
If they don't farm the lane, someone's gotta do it haha
BSJ "Coaching" is fucking hilarious. FUCKING GO!! YES!! NOOO!!! RUN RUN RUN!! FUCK YEAH!! LAST HIT!!!! LAST HIT!!!! WTF!!
long time sub, rarely comment, but this was just really good educational and entertaining content. your commentary is funny as BSJ keep it coming
I play a lot of games with Russians (unfortunately) and they will not hesitate to spam the report button for the most stupid things, like for example in this example game, I would've got reports for A) "Pushing the lane" with my spells, B) "Taking mid from sniper", C) "Farming lanes" (when I'm actually pushing them), D) Farming Jungle... etc.
This was BEAUTIFULLL
Ty man been looking for this as I feel really good with my support abilities.
And also i dont understand how its a carry from a support he didnt had a single carry item a carry should have bkb kaya sange but u never recommend him not a single time
27:20 "This is why Sniper winrate is so high" well, what is the play there for radiant then? What's what I would have done?
So one q, when you coach carries, you tell them to farm away from the team as they create space. But you tell the sup to do the same, is it because we don't trust our teammates?
This is the slacks' stast in action from his infamous hope to raise mmr video
Did BSJ just call this man a good little boy lol?
So I haven't played dota in 7 years. The matchmaking has been insanely bad. It's almost like the game still thinks I am high MMR. While I am actually very very bad. And people are hating and being toxic to me. How do I get my MMR fixed? I don't want to keep doing this to people. I thought by now my MMR would have been reset?
It's because even the people in lower MMR have developed past you. 7 years is a long time. Just keep playing (and losing), and you will eventually drop down to your own level. And be sure to re-calibrate your MMR if the option is available.
So why can we can't watch it in 720p ?
lol he was more farmed than his whole team most of the time, higher lvl than carry and shit
"you are a tower defense mechanism" had me rolling idk why 🤣
its back to 1080p finally
I really enjoyed the video, but is there a reason why i cant watch it in more than 360p? It is actually the only option to select for me
Pienso que es muy bueno como couching, pareciera que esta rage pero eso solo demuestra lo mucho que se compromete en las partidas
Well I wish I could do this in my bracket.
Min 22 :the enemy team hitting my ancient of coruse not all games but most of them
the lower mmr the more time you have
if you pick a hero like cm who can push side lane without showing, your enemy can NEVER do that.
You don't seem to realize how big impact that is when BSJ tell him to wave the creeps all the game, consistently. No joke the game could have been ended long ago without that.
sincerely, a player who's spamming cm to divine rank with 80%+ winrate.
@@phunweng962 Dude I play hood alot and hood is better than cm with maelstrom. but the enemy team its like they don't have time they pushed us so hard ( Brood - Beast master - Visage ) these type of hero they can be in your base under 20 min or they will follow you around in low mmr nobody care about the side lanes and split psuhing that's why arc in low mmr can 1 vs 5. as pos 4 you have nothing to do
btw my mmr is 5.2K divine 4
@@phunweng962 hum... of course enemy team can see you push lane you cant clear a wave with only the first spell. And I agree that hoodwink is really good at pushing lanes/farming with maelstrom it 's just insane lol (I love both
@@shadder8431 and yeah visage, beast master, nature s prophet and brood, in 20 min you have almost no towers, the thing is not to feed, and try to split push and go High ground (possible to win, depending on team synergy).
PS : against arc warden, just buy eul scepter and pray for him to be bad...
That was a good video bsj. Enjoyed it thanks
hello bsj my idol ive been watching your videos since 2020 and it helps me a lot it makes my rank up my medal fast but can i get some tips on how to reach an immo bracket cause ive stuck at diivne :( and i cant rank up anymore please notice me sir great bsj im your great fan please please give me tips
did you say support lives matter freakin lul
why no shard bkb if the team sucks so much?
If you're low MMR and playing as pos5, just pick Jakiro, at least 60% of the map is left unfarmed, just buy some clarities and get big. Also always buy tranquils and move on foot on the lane you want to farm, always keep TP off cd so you can join your team if they need you.
So hard to watch as BSJ talks down constantly.
bsj looks like harry potter in 360p
Awesome video man, I'm a huge fan! I'm just a bit curious, I see you priorities farm a lot more than being around your team in the early game, it kinda makes me think if you farm so much while your team constantly fight at 4v5 (at best), and if they get to the late game like that it kinda looks like they would manage to do relatively fine without the support (?)
Wouldn't it be better if you just grouped up around the sniper, enable him to get as much kills as possible, push when u can and close the game even before min 40? Because it looks like the sniper just completely saved that team (?)
Do more coaching vids like this. Its nice
If they push this tower you are a machine
BSJ 2022
Defination of backseat gaming xD
PS i know he helping him improve.
It's more like passenger seat,a rally equivalent
That’s just directing 😂
that sniper was hard to watch... prolly thought he was the reason yall won the game smh
Is coaching usually this intense? I'm herald and keeping up with so many orders feels panic inducing haha, good video nonetheless, I learned a lot!
CM higher level than the cores haha
"Look your Naga is owning, wait actually he's feed go help"😂
360 res? Why?
Ehhh...low mmr players not knowing how to play against Sniper is what won the game tbh.
BSJ: this is why Sniper's winrate is insanely high
ME: But I watch Cockva lose a lot with sniper
He meant on lower mmr bracket
Can anyone explain to me why 5:35 he told the cm to pull and w the eagle? What does that accomplish?
I would not be able to focus at all if bsj is drooling over my shity gameplay xD
ninja push - good shit.
That sniper did not show mercy. no high five with the one who carried them when they are feeding.
Oh gooooood. This dude presses buttoms slower than my grandma.
i got so anxious thinking im CM, this is good
watching him miss those lh on the small camp was so painful lol... even though i do it myself sometimes still
Try to coach sea server
holy shit the poggers
Slardar not getting a bkb is criminal.
This is hilarious
one of the best videos
The only thing is on the times he used ult he should have used glimmer
bsj is a god
Only 360p resolution ?
Supports life's matter
Tanks for this vid bsj I think I ma start playing g cm now
nice
Really want a pos 4 guide like earthshaker or tiny etc
sick video
Thanks for making videos for support players love u bsj
Bro i wasn't even in the game but it stressed me out.
This content is very useful! Ty, BSJ!
Eu sei que farm e importante pra qualquer herói nesse jogo, mas um supp 5 deveria ser o ultimo a pensar em farm.
Como HC bsj e um dos melhores coachs, mas de supp as dicas são péssimas.
DotA is about objectives not kills. There wasn't pressure on the enemy,teammates were feeding and have low game sense and knowledge. If CM didn't build those items,game would've been lost because team was trash. If this was rank 1 DotA, Naga would be doing what CM was doing and CM wouldn't need to carry. If BSJ wasn't coach,they probably would have lost because the team is bad. Mechanical skill but little DotA knowledge and gamesense. This is also why you see people who supposed to win,lose.
Ele msm explicou, as brigas q o time dele puxou nao iam mudar com a presença dele, e todo farm q ele pegou o time não ia pegar. Tb acho q ele farmou demais, mas dizer q foi péssimo não ne
I learned so fucking much. Thank you!
Nagas do the same shit in high legend ranks as well.
I wish I learned the game to his level so I could teach others.
so with the lvl 20 talent thing where he skilled poorly, I think what it is and I do this too, is a lot of players use the torte or immortal faith guide and end up following the guide exactly in order every game, I myself have been trying to get more into the sense of playing based on the game itself and not based off the guide but it can be hard to change to that mindset when playing that way for so long
yeah, when i get the idea of the hero i turn the guide off because of auto pilot mistakes
@@icata12345 Or just make your own guide. I spam certain heroes which i just take the time and optimize my own guide.
Even if i think my guide is good i dont always choose what It says to get... every matchup is different and most people will not understand this without playing a hero over and over against different heroes.
@Professor Thinker same thing its for my own use optimized for my own playstyle ... therefore its optimized
I have started to play carry offlane primarily like Ammar_The_Fucker. I have gained 2 stars on my Guardian rank in 3 days. I watched a lot of BSJ and other streamers to how to read matchups and lane equilibrium. In most matchups now, I am more farmed than enemy carry while playing offlane
in guardian you can be more farmed than carry as every pos
@@phunweng962 not true because everyone is low mmr like you and pos 4 are also assholes who like to last hit over you as pos 3. in first 10 mins, I have more last hits and denies as pos 3 over enemy pos 1 by changing the lane equilibrium in my favor
This video is super helpful. Would love it if there are various videos like this on different roles and heroes
Such a good video on how not to be worthless as a support!!!
I saw this on twitch, farming 5 tutorial
but low mmr doesn't understand sadge
that's the best part : they dont have to.
@@phunweng962 xD