The last Smurf video with WK was amazing. I started doing what you did and started getting free wins as long as my team doesn't completely throw which is common at my rank (herald) will definitely be applying the strats in this video for when I play support. Thank you so much BSJ
No mate, dont you understand... the important thing is that you learn about how to play the game, this 'as long as my team doesn't completely throw' nonsense is something you need to stop thinking. It is all you, the heralds who play with you have nothing to do with your improvement! It is the literal biggest gap between highest and lowest ranked players and evidently the majority of the player base would smash herald players, they could smurf on heralds on any new account any amount of times over and over it would hardly matter if the 4 heralds on their side were muppets or not.
@@MrCokewithice To some extent, how your teammates play can indeed still cost you the game as long as there's no night and day difference in MMR. In BSJ's final video with Eri where they played together (look it up if you haven't watched it), they still lost that game despite BSJ being a 9k carry and the enemies were roughly 4k average.
I really want to see a 1k mmr educational smurf support video. I keep trying to do things from the 4k videos but I can't seem to quite get it right or the enemy support doesn't behave in the same way or my core struggles when I go to secure runes and I'm not sure where I'm screwing up exactly. (I'm guardian so I'm sure I'm screwing up a lot it's just hard to work out where the biggest screw ups are 😅)
Check out his fundamental videos to understand his game theory. If you want, he does go into it there. It'd be nice if he did, but he probably felt redundant. His coaching and fundamental vids go over it exhaustively
@@misterv6068 Yeah but the thing is, he's already talking about everything he does during the game, it's only after the fact that a lot of stuff are edited out, but I feel its too much, the total game time was 44 minutes anyway so the video length would only be like an extra 10 minutes.
“If you think you did what you could, and it doesn’t work out, then you just go on and go next.” Thats what u guys gotta realize, even smurfing as a pos 5 ur not gonna win every single game, ur just gonna see a consistent upward trend. Dont give up or get mad from 1-2 losses lol just keep playing how you been playing and you’ll climb if u are playing well
I doubt BSJ is going to read this but something I like to do on maiden in the safe lane is frost bite the larger creep in medium camp so it's weak to pull.
Love this videos all past knowledge put into action gave me deep understanding of this game Now even if teammates are bad i win games after applying basic concepts Winning more games than losing But sometimes enemies are smart or one of the bad draft games rest everything if fine Thanks bsj really appreciate👍👍
should i create a new account, to smurf or whatever? (My current account was created years ago, with over 1,000 games played. Due to what seems to be Dota's dice system arranging total amateur players on my team to 'balance' the game, my MMR hasn't been able to climb and remains below 1,000.)
Here's i observe. Herald to ancient 50-90% of player are toxic, talkative trashtalker etc. Except in guardian. Idk what's going on in guardian but guardian better than ancient in behavior.
BSJ's explanation on playing Dota seems to be very formulaic; placing a sentry behind the tower because he himself at his bracket wouldn't make such a risky play without vision. Ergo I think higher mmr is just making the absolute best decision based on one's role in the game. However, due to this formula, it's easier for the opponent to know what you're doing based on they'll assume you're making the best decision with the current flow of the game. Lower mmrs leading with emotions and spirit of the moment rather than reason Higher mmrs leading with best decision at the moment gathered through reason. Somewhere in between is a player who plays with reason but is fueled by spirit
Muting people makes my mmr go up... key word for a mute is usually 'why' as in 'why blah blah blah' yeah nah cya mate we dont gain mmr listening to that and if the whole team is going a bit mental you press that mute team button and play the game. Mute -> gain mmr -> smiley face
because enemies were quite strong and he said that he did not want his teammates to just have losing fights for no reason and he was defending tier 1 tower so that after enemy wins the fights they cant capatalize on that
I think they have objective based heros. Dp takes towers, so the best thing would be stop/delay dp by maintaining equilibrium to not letting the wave ricochet as much as possible. Next would probably be to keep an eye on rosh for ursa.
_"Why was he defending?"_ → To make space for his team by slowing radiant's pressure _"Shouldn't he join team?"_ → Joining team when unneeded makes space for the *enemy team
as a support, you should always be asking questions like "am i needed here?" or "where can i be useful?" a lot of moments where he was defending safelane tower was because his team didnt really need him to kill/gank/etc. at this point, it's better to simply find farm somewhere on the map. as a poor support, one of the best scenarios is to defend a tower in a dead lane (gives more map control and very important: ensures the enemy team does not take your towers for free). in your priority list of tasks as a support, this is pretty low priority and you should definitely prioritize tp-ing to help teammates when they are being ganked especially under your own towers (bsj mentions this when he should've tp'd mid at one point)
Just watched the 1st 10 min and 4k player are much much better than previous 2k player. Much less error to abuse, and good button pressing. (I.e. the willow pressure , the undying deny tombstone) they are not just running like headless chicken. But then still some large error (dp to in front of cm)
For gyro mana, as he said. Pretty sure it’s also because gyro have no mana to make play at that time. He did say he wish he had taken frostbite though. So even bsj misjudged it’s potential.
should use video timestamps, not game timestamps. his rationale was to have the creeps meet under tower with his creep wave tanking the enemy creeps to make the lane push out.
while i am sure the smurf experience is downed by the fact that people expect to win/lose i am sure is much better then ruin a game for 9 people so i salute you!
every time i watch this game my eyes hurts from how bad DP played...(btw u just break smoke and servive the FB before the game begins it be funny if u look at it in free mode...)
@@Blade2323B i got 1010 mmr i do better than what he does here. no hate to him i learnt most of it from his previous vids. he was a really good coach. this is the most shocking vid ever. i learned alot of things from him that i follow. i didnot see him do any of those. early game items were trash. all his laning phase was bad. then i saw the 17th min and i could not tolerate anymore and shut it down. wish he played like he did before
If you ignore him building and using items then yes, he plays at 500 mmr as support. But that hardly surprising since he mostly play core carry, so he plays here as if he was carry too (he says it himself - this should be done by carry, but carry doesn't so I will go farm instead of being sup). Also if you take a look at his neutral items tier list, you will see that he put all core items much higher and all sup and pos 3 mage items much lower then they should be.
I would like to know, why he can play and record smurfing video without any report. I know it is educational but those people lost 1 hour of life because he was smurfing. Really valve does not care even it is obvious proor of smurfing?
The last Smurf video with WK was amazing. I started doing what you did and started getting free wins as long as my team doesn't completely throw which is common at my rank (herald) will definitely be applying the strats in this video for when I play support. Thank you so much BSJ
No mate, dont you understand... the important thing is that you learn about how to play the game, this 'as long as my team doesn't completely throw' nonsense is something you need to stop thinking. It is all you, the heralds who play with you have nothing to do with your improvement! It is the literal biggest gap between highest and lowest ranked players and evidently the majority of the player base would smash herald players, they could smurf on heralds on any new account any amount of times over and over it would hardly matter if the 4 heralds on their side were muppets or not.
@@MrCokewithice who
It will execute it good it will be harder for your team to throw too.
@@MrCokewithice To some extent, how your teammates play can indeed still cost you the game as long as there's no night and day difference in MMR. In BSJ's final video with Eri where they played together (look it up if you haven't watched it), they still lost that game despite BSJ being a 9k carry and the enemies were roughly 4k average.
@@MrCokewithice🤓
37:28 BSJ: "A lot of Dota is *giving the opponent a chance to mess up* "
BSJ doing support smurf is a pleasant surprise. Learn a couple of more stuff through this. Good stuff.
*learned
Supporting when smurfing is never theove though xD
I really want to see a 1k mmr educational smurf support video. I keep trying to do things from the 4k videos but I can't seem to quite get it right or the enemy support doesn't behave in the same way or my core struggles when I go to secure runes and I'm not sure where I'm screwing up exactly. (I'm guardian so I'm sure I'm screwing up a lot it's just hard to work out where the biggest screw ups are 😅)
I think the cuts in the laning phase are too much... I wanna see when you pull and when you don't, and why.
I mean why cut anything if the video is gonna be 38 minutes anyway? I mean if you cut stuff out, cut stuff out where absolutely nothing is happening.
Check out his fundamental videos to understand his game theory. If you want, he does go into it there. It'd be nice if he did, but he probably felt redundant. His coaching and fundamental vids go over it exhaustively
@@misterv6068 Yeah but the thing is, he's already talking about everything he does during the game, it's only after the fact that a lot of stuff are edited out, but I feel its too much, the total game time was 44 minutes anyway so the video length would only be like an extra 10 minutes.
@@misterv6068 Thats not the point tho. The point is he uploads a 38 minute video, so why cut anything out if the video is already that long?
i think it's more about cutting out all the redundant elements rather than minding the length of the video
honestly with the minimal amount of time the ulti stayed up i would go for the attack speed talent, especially good against tombstone this game
“If you think you did what you could, and it doesn’t work out, then you just go on and go next.” Thats what u guys gotta realize, even smurfing as a pos 5 ur not gonna win every single game, ur just gonna see a consistent upward trend. Dont give up or get mad from 1-2 losses lol just keep playing how you been playing and you’ll climb if u are playing well
imagine someone volunteer to join lobby but they smurfing in bsj lobby. fake Smurf content counter by real smurf
dang the positioning and spell casting in the last rosh fight was so good
that pango is so hard to watch, dude was playing 2000mmr
I doubt BSJ is going to read this but something I like to do on maiden in the safe lane is frost bite the larger creep in medium camp so it's weak to pull.
just pull the camp yourself and kill the creep if you are going to waste mana to frostbite it, wtf. stop overthinking
@@aboiajiev yup lol. 1 frost bite to that creep deals more than half of its HP. Just auto attack it, it lasts 10 secs to creeps.
Love this videos all past knowledge put into action gave me deep understanding of this game
Now even if teammates are bad i win games after applying basic concepts Winning more games than losing
But sometimes enemies are smart or one of the bad draft games rest everything if fine
Thanks bsj really appreciate👍👍
This BSJ’s version of secret immortal
should i create a new account, to smurf or whatever?
(My current account was created years ago, with over 1,000 games played. Due to what seems to be Dota's dice system arranging total amateur players on my team to 'balance' the game, my MMR hasn't been able to climb and remains below 1,000.)
BSJ, Are you using the Defense Grid 2 Announcer?
8:50 what should he have built? Genuine question.
Things to deal with ursa i guess.
He built halberd eventually, then theres armour auras/vlads.
I dont really play razor though :)
on ideal world we are not blocking ancients on razor hahahaha
The avg mmr on your team is the avg of the other 4 right?
Here's i observe.
Herald to ancient 50-90% of player are toxic, talkative trashtalker etc.
Except in guardian. Idk what's going on in guardian but guardian better than ancient in behavior.
They know they are bad, the others don't.
Lmao wtf is that percentage range? 😂
This might be the stupidest, most anecdotal comment ever. Congratulations on being guardian haha.
probably the dunning kruger effect
Didn't take that 200 attack speed vs undying sad
he had 2 ranged cores he didnt need it
This feels like average 4k support lowkey
BSJ's explanation on playing Dota seems to be very formulaic; placing a sentry behind the tower because he himself at his bracket wouldn't make such a risky play without vision. Ergo I think higher mmr is just making the absolute best decision based on one's role in the game. However, due to this formula, it's easier for the opponent to know what you're doing based on they'll assume you're making the best decision with the current flow of the game. Lower mmrs leading with emotions and spirit of the moment rather than reason Higher mmrs leading with best decision at the moment gathered through reason.
Somewhere in between is a player who plays with reason but is fueled by spirit
Muting people makes my mmr go up... key word for a mute is usually 'why' as in 'why blah blah blah' yeah nah cya mate we dont gain mmr listening to that
and if the whole team is going a bit mental you press that mute team button and play the game. Mute -> gain mmr -> smiley face
Serious question: Why are you defending safe lane tower for that long? Shouldn't you be with your team fighting and making space?
Making space my forcung enemy team to use resources to get a tower thats as fsr to one side of the map as possible
because enemies were quite strong and he said that he did not want his teammates to just have losing fights for no reason and he was defending tier 1 tower so that after enemy wins the fights they cant capatalize on that
I think they have objective based heros. Dp takes towers, so the best thing would be stop/delay dp by maintaining equilibrium to not letting the wave ricochet as much as possible. Next would probably be to keep an eye on rosh for ursa.
_"Why was he defending?"_
→ To make space for his team by slowing radiant's pressure
_"Shouldn't he join team?"_
→ Joining team when unneeded makes space for the *enemy team
as a support, you should always be asking questions like "am i needed here?" or "where can i be useful?"
a lot of moments where he was defending safelane tower was because his team didnt really need him to kill/gank/etc. at this point, it's better to simply find farm somewhere on the map. as a poor support, one of the best scenarios is to defend a tower in a dead lane (gives more map control and very important: ensures the enemy team does not take your towers for free).
in your priority list of tasks as a support, this is pretty low priority and you should definitely prioritize tp-ing to help teammates when they are being ganked especially under your own towers (bsj mentions this when he should've tp'd mid at one point)
This is exactly why u never play support on low mmr. "I hate this😐"
Just watched the 1st 10 min and 4k player are much much better than previous 2k player. Much less error to abuse, and good button pressing. (I.e. the willow pressure , the undying deny tombstone) they are not just running like headless chicken. But then still some large error (dp to in front of cm)
Love it, keep it up man
Why not choose frostbite at lvl 2 and kill the willow with gyro?
For gyro mana, as he said. Pretty sure it’s also because gyro have no mana to make play at that time.
He did say he wish he had taken frostbite though. So even bsj misjudged it’s potential.
@@themaskedivy29 I think cm lvl 2 power spike is more important than mana regen for a carry... But hey, im not 10k so... Hahaha
situational, he was thinking team play at the moment of level up.
Thx Bsj, i just hope that you will do more content for offlane, because this role is almost non-existent for educational contentmakers
Also pos 4
That pull at 12:22 objectively bad. Can anyone spot why?
should use video timestamps, not game timestamps. his rationale was to have the creeps meet under tower with his creep wave tanking the enemy creeps to make the lane push out.
Great content!
Hope next time support in archon rank
Ethical smurfing. Based
while i am sure the smurf experience is downed by the fact that people expect to win/lose i am sure is much better then ruin a game for 9 people so i salute you!
Level 20 talent seems off vs undying
Why aren't those players banned for smurfing?! ruining game for others.
Quinn won a major 💪🏻
dota 2 is a rly good game, but the smurfs / bought accounts / noobs / grief .. ruined the game ...
Why use lobby Sir? It defeats the whole point of smurfing. I like your old smurf series way better.
Is the average 4350 MMR on Dire team including BSJ's 6k or whatever much he has? If not the MMR averages are wildly misleading.
He said in the very begging, excluding him
he's 9k
The point is to simulate a ranked game where he's smurfing. If he was smurfing in actual games then he would "be" 4k.
i assume avg from 5 ppl vs avg from 4 ppl
every time i watch this game my eyes hurts from how bad DP played...(btw u just break smoke and servive the FB before the game begins it be funny if u look at it in free mode...)
if you remove the commentary and the small box where u see bsj you will call this a 500mmr gameplay cm hard sup.
edit 200mmr maybe lesser
How muc is your MMR?
@@Blade2323B i got 1010 mmr i do better than what he does here. no hate to him i learnt most of it from his previous vids. he was a really good coach. this is the most shocking vid ever. i learned alot of things from him that i follow. i didnot see him do any of those. early game items were trash. all his laning phase was bad. then i saw the 17th min and i could not tolerate anymore and shut it down. wish he played like he did before
Yes im sure heralds are better than bsj they just unlucky(all of them at once)
If you ignore him building and using items then yes, he plays at 500 mmr as support. But that hardly surprising since he mostly play core carry, so he plays here as if he was carry too (he says it himself - this should be done by carry, but carry doesn't so I will go farm instead of being sup). Also if you take a look at his neutral items tier list, you will see that he put all core items much higher and all sup and pos 3 mage items much lower then they should be.
Learn to use f1-f5 to view teammate heroes faster. Watching u painstakingly place ur mouse in a specific spot in the mini map was killing me.
How to set this up?
@@Blade2323B it was be default for me
what happened? I watched 15minutes and started fast-forwarding as it was too Bedge to keep watching normally :D
Play more as carry plz
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The amount of lasthits you are missing almost in every video leaves me in question marks considering how experienced player you are :D
the point isn't the last hits, it's to push the wave and get better map control
LETSGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
bzm
why you don't get banned?
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Not your best performance. Maybe it was intended.
Valve needs to permanently ban all smurfers
I would like to know, why he can play and record smurfing video without any report. I know it is educational but those people lost 1 hour of life because he was smurfing. Really valve does not care even it is obvious proor of smurfing?
It is a private lobby without any ranks. Just think of it as a practice match
did you even watch the video? they all volunteered for the match, it's a private lobby.