Discovering the Original Mud Wagon Photo | Engels Coach Shop
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- Original photographs are a historical treasure in restoring this family's mud wagon of the American west. Building and restoring horse drawn vehicles often brings up local history so foundational to the establishment of our country. Thanks to the grandson who located these photos.
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Frank S. Matsura - (1873-1913) was an early 20th-century Japanese photographer who travelled from Japan to America in 1901 where he lived until his early death
Thank you.
@UC9igGyox-BK9gQLzjZqo7jQ I bet so!!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_S._Matsura
Yeah and the university of Washington has a collection of his work with another photo of this stagecoach in it.
@@joevano Thank you. Sounds like he was quite the photographer.
So good to hear an honourable man speak to me on a regular basis.🙂
The caption is "Frank Matsura Foto." Matsura was a Japanese American photographer who had a studio in Okanagan in the early 20th century.
Thank you.
@@dianeengel4155 There's a wikipedia page about him. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_S._Matsura
@@joescarborough1 Thank you. Sounds like he was quite a photographer.
@@dianeengel4155 go check out his archive at the Washington State University. His photos really put you back there. There's gazillions of them. OK maybe only about 1,650. But he still captured a regular slice of life.
@@1pcfred thank you. We will do that.
How cool is that! To be able to see a coach in it's heyday and then connect it to a pile of parts a century later. Gives me chills. Thanks for sharing Dave!!
And to fall into the hands of an expert with high standards in his work to rebuild it!
Frank S. Matsura was a Japanese photographer who emigrated from Japan in or about 1905, and moved to Okanogan in 1907, and was the only photographer in that town at this time. He opened a studio on 2nd street. He was evidently a popular fellow of the time, engaging in many civic activities, and very engaged in the local activities. He was known to photograph any and all notable activity in the area such as the building of new structures, or public infrastructure.
Another vital link in the chain of historical events.
Thanks for that bit of interesting information.
It's a very nice part of Washington to visit.
@@inspector1794 Thanks. LOL I was very tired when I wrote the comment. It is poorly written. Not my usual style, but I guess everyone gets the idea. Mr. Matsura also purchased property and created a children's play ground so that the kids in town would have something to do after school let out. He was also known to do a lot of clowning around. He just loved making people happy and, was in return, happy to be a part of the community.
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With an occasional assist from friends and followers, the incredible craftsman known as Dave Engels is not only transforming a pile of rubble into what will most certainly be a stunning rebuild/restoration, he's explaining how he does it step by step by step and encouraging us to participate in the process. As always Dave & Diane: a most sincere thank you for allowing us along on your truly remarkable journey! Next Friday can't come soon enough!
Thank you for watching faithfully. And we do appreciate the help.
Okanogen, Brewster, Tonasket, Oroville...I know the area well. I went deer hunting every fall for about 25 years over there. On one of the back roads there was a historical plaque telling of some skirmish with the natives. It is real wild west desert country. Most years I would see a round up and cattle drive when the ranchers moved their cattle from high summer pastures to lower elevation for the winter. When I first started going there, they had only one traffic light in the whole county. I can almost imagine that old coach traveling on the rocky dirt roads way back then. Thanks again for all the super videos you keep creating for us.
Dave, I'm an old guy. I want to express my appreciation for your videos. There's a lot of young people that I think watch some of them. Many likely don't get it. Some however desire to be craftsmen and will learn essential attention to their focus in life. Praise God for you! Thank you for your effort in documenting attention to detail.
I'm pleased that your head cold seems to be departing. God Bless.
Diane, just wanted to thank you for all the work you do behind the scenes ❤👍🏴
You're welcome!
Frank Matsura arrived in Okagoon cty in 1901 and worked in the Elliot Hotel which was the headquarters for the stage coaches. Frank worked in Laundry room of the Hotel and developed his photos in the laundry room.
Frank did end up with his own photo studio. He even took pictures of it. He took pictures of everything.
Interesting.
@@dianeengel4155 just wait until you see the picture of the guy washing his pet bear. Them old timers were unique.
Detective Engel at it, distinctively putting together pieces of information other people do not even see when pointed at. Marvellous. Thanks for sharing!
This reminded me of something from Dr. Seuss, "He puzzed and he puzzed till his puzzled was sore, then he thought of something he hadn't before...."
Detective Dave at it again and it is an honor to watch you uncover the "secrets" of this carriages. God Bless You and Mrs. Engels.
This fella needs to live 3 more lifetimes to share all of his knowledge and skill set. Glad i stumbled upon this channel. Easily one of my favorites.
This history journey is fascinating. To get to see it come back to life is very rewarding.
You might consider taking an aprentic so that your knowledge and skills can be passed to future generations. You are rare! Thank you!
Nice I like the way you after the original history to reform this wagon to is former glory.
I love history is one of my favorite subject Iam difficulty enjoy and I am looking forward to see it finish.
Kind regards Sr David and to all.
Today nearly everybody has a camera or is unknowingly being filmed.
To have photos of the times that these wagon were in their hay-day is rare. (JF)
*- I am glad the pictures helped you, Dave. Congratulations to the grandson for all his work .*
Almost within the life time of one person, my grandmother in law being 103 and still going strong well recalls the pre WW2 days of wagons
My guess on the historic photo. Bet. = (between) Okanogan -Brewster. Second line says Frank Matsura Foto.
I don’t see a year, but would guess based on the car in the other photo, around 1910. Edit. If I had read the comments ahead of time, would have discovered people miles ahead of me. The car in the other photo looks like a Ford model K, but that is a guess. Dave & Diane, thank you for the joy you bring to the world.
The name on your last picture looks like Frank Matsura. I checked it; he was a Japanese photographer in the early 20th century. There are about 1800 of his glass plate photos preserved in the Okanogan County Historical Society and at Washington State Univerity.
This is a terrific piece of deductive reasoning! In the hands of a master craftsman these old photos have individual stories to tell and one of the pics was pure gold.
I find it amazing what you do. Recovering such "documentation" and drawing from it. I'd be bewildered.
Keep doing what you do, and I do hope you have an apprentice or three to carry on.
This is a niche art these days, and there will remain a need.
Artisan, or by actual need.
Add another one to Dave’s list of incredible skills, detective work.
A copy of the original photograph would be very nice to go with that coach when it's done!
wij genieten van het zien van oude foto`s, heel leerzaam.
I love the sound of hard dry wood slapped together!!
This is like resurrecting the past by detective work so to speak ! Very interesting !
Hi Dave, I have a Box of old Family Pictures some are faded some are not, some are tin type, so I have a little experience with old Pictures. I think your right Dave! that's the way I read the picture to. No telling what repairs were made by How? when and why? I'm enjoying following along, watching the restoration rebuild of this old Mud Wagon
Great detective work. Glad the grandson agrees with your conclusions. So do I. Also agree with other viewers, it's great to see a photo of what it looked like back in the day. Thanks.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU.
Looks like it reads as "Between Okanogan and Brewster" - possibly taken in Malott, WA (only town showing on the map I looked at that's between the other 2)?
And "Frank Matsura Foto" - he'd have been the photographer perhaps?
I was checking an old magazine from just after the period in which these flourished and man... in that one magazine, there were at least 30 different styles and variations with businesses advertising parts and components (come one, come all to get your X-made tops and pieces type adverts) allowing for even more. It's easier to think of that period identical to what we have today. Gather 20 older cars of the same make and model from various regions of the US and you'll find 20 different modifications to them to suit the owner's needs and tastes, repairs and so on.
It sure shows how people have changed! The physical size of people! The wagons size and the number of people able to ride in them ! Now day people maybe three could ride ! With a driver and shot gun assistant! To make money would have to make bigger wagon or charge more per person , as the size of people today! Have some feeling people were better off then physically than today!
You should intro this series wearing Sherlock Holmes cap - lotta detective work cheers
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My family on my mothers side were from the region. I spent many summers in Conconally and the region. My grandfather was Chelsea Woodward and was well known.
I live in the area, sort of, and I so know the people here would so love to learn about the restoring.
Some incredible forensic detective work. Very impressive.
I really like your videos. You approach the restoration of the project with such dedication that I admire your projects!
Solving the puzzle helps to rebuild it accurately.
Hi Dave, I am not into buggies or coaches (but watch you every week) I am into model railways, and building historical railway stations in model form. Like you I get an enormous sense of achievement in the research of the subject, and the building same . Love the channel.
I can relate. Trying to recreate the header for a 1904 Best harvester when we had many more parts was a challenge. There is a certain railway station in Colorado in which I am interested. I only know of two photos of it. So far, I have come up empty on anything else.
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Hey, Dave! Thanks for the trip back in time! The old photo you asked us to give an opinion on looks like the bottom line is " Frank Matsura Foto". Probably the credit line for the photographer, who was probably of Japanese descent. Washington state had a lot of Asian immigration back in the day.
It's amazing what can be learned through a network of followers that know where to search for such information. Thumbs up to all the effort that's gone into all the research in hopes of helping Dave in his endeavor.
Yes, we appreciate it.
lt is my pleasure to watch you work my friend and a very BIG thanks 👍
One also has to remember that some of these were also repurposed wagons. I recently found a us postal wagon picture that also looked a heck of a lot like the bones Dave has. It may not be exact…but there is more detail in picture to look at for ideas.
I know growing up we has some “bones” out back inthe weeds of an old seeder. It had wooden wheels and framework. It is probably long since turned to dust with ironwork in ground if it is there at all. Some of the stuff we had around yard was made up of repurposed old stuff. The wagon for our garden tractor had solid wheels from something else and most of the steel was from old John Deere snowmobile crates.
The farm wagon had car wheels mounted to axles with old wierd leaf springs. It had a really long tongue for towing too. It could have started life as a horse drawn hay wagon.
Hi Dave I have been watching your channel for quite a while, I live in Omak the photo is a Frank Matsura photo he was a photographer that did a lot of work in this area. I enjoy your content.
Thanks Dave, it IS comforting when a plan develops!! I'm enjoying the trip!! :-)
I think the first word is Between I think you have done a great job of detecting this coach!
Good investigation techniques pay off once more. You absolutely amaze me with your skills. Thank you for the tour.
I enjoy your detective ability.
Great historical provenance 👏👏
You have a lot of ways to get your work done love your videos thank you
Wow, I’m overwhelmed.
Buenas tardes,
Muchas gracias por sus interesantes videos, los disfruto mucho.
Usted posee un gran conocimiento.
Once again thanks for the video.
Loved the photos and your process of discovery. Hope the grandson discovers the person that repaired a wreck.
Wow. Very good ,sir you are the "wagon wizard"..
This wagon looks like the Army Dougherty Wagon used to transport Officers and their families. Some called it an Ambulance because it resembled them. The Dougherty was a rectangular wagon that was much more open to the elements when the flaps were rolled & tied up near the roof. All this time I was expecting your wagon to end up looking more like the classic Wells Fargo Stage Coach.
DAVE, VERY INTERESTING, OVER MY HEAD BUT I ENJOY WATCHING YOU MAKE SOME KIND OF SENSE OF IT ALL, GREAT VIDEO, TELL ALL HELLO...SEE YOU WHEN...
Is the heavyset guy in the foreground texting someone instead of paying attention for the camera?! Fascinating dimension of history that your research has added. Good work.
Lol That's what it would be today.
Dave - fantastic!
Can't wait to see this one come together...
It's fascinating, how much information you pulled out of that old picture! Thanks for sharing!
I have been following you for a number of years now and you have sparked an interest in old wagons and coaches in me so as I travel, I look for and photograph as many old wheels, wagons and coach as i can. I thank you and look forward to watching you bring this mud wagon back to life.
I'm thinking that this coach will look far better than when it was new. Dave is an excellent craftsman and is helped by the tools of our time.
you are a master great detective work. love all your videos, cant wait till the next one
Great Episode.
Dave, the writing below is 'FRANK MATSURA FOTO" and it is a CONCORD STAGE with a roof according to the Okanogan County Historical Society.
Searching out what you did took some knowledge and skills of remembering all sorts of things and I am impressed by your skills. You are an artist and history book of references to be able to figure these things out. You're worth your weight in gold in our nations history. Stay safe and keep up the great videos Dave. Catch you on the next one. Fred.
Thanks again Dave, learn something every time I watch your videos.
Frank Matsura Foto, could be photographers signature
Thanks, Dave. Great video!
My brother and I pulled a 53 gmc city bus out of the junkyard and found an original photo of it when it was doing the Vancouver-Portland rout. Super cool when you find old photos on stuff.
Well like the old saying goes"A picture is worth a thousand words" seems to applicable in this wagon build. Thanks Dave! 👍
Thank you very much.
Real good video, Dave. I had to stop and study the photos several times...I love the history, too, Thanks
Dave, now you have a good idea what the original mud wagon was and where it ran, I would not be at all surprised if more photos of it will turn up. There are a lot of good helpful folks on the Internet, although the press would have you believe it is mostly bad.
Yeah that name Dave couldn't make out is easily researched on the Internet. He took hundreds of photographs and even at least one other of that stagecoach. It's the other side of it even. It was taken around 1910.
@@1pcfred I think the car in one of the other photos might be a quite rare Reo.
@@wilsonlaidlaw the first car picture? I saw that one. Everything in all of those pictures is rare and ancient today. All of it is antique. It does put that wrecked wagon Dave has in some perspective. It is matter out of time.
Second line in photo... Frank (Sakae) Matsura Foto ~ Frank A japanese photographer who emigrated to US in 1901 ~ 12 years before his early death. Specifically Okanogan, WA area and his history is an interesting read. He has a collection of 1800 period photgraphs in an Okanogan Museum. Very interested in meeting you one day. Love your channel sir. My experience is in Horse packing in the western States and Canada. Cheers, Don
I found this to be very interesting.
Thanks for sharing your research and thought processes, I see now that there is a lot of work to be done before the build begins.
It becomes a scientific analyzing of what is left to observe . As a Mechanic I have assembled many basket cases , some times with extra pieces & some times missing pieces
Thanks Dave for the translation. This way it is more convenient for sharing to my friends in Brasil, Portugal and Angola
You're welcome. Thank you for sharing.
In doing some searching I found the name of Champney, Weldon V. born in England in 1850, (some of his kin ended up in the Okanogon and he had a history of "blacksmithing on his journey to the west from New York through Colorado and was listed in historical documents as still doing blacksmithing in the region in the late 1800's into the 1900's.
Thank you.
@@dianeengel4155 You are most welcome!
Maybe it's just the way I'm looking at it since I can't see the whole thing but it doesn't look wide enough for two people side by side.
Great work too on searching the original wagon. Really looking forward to the whole build and the finished wagon.
A man with a keen eye and a wide range of knowledge in his field and many years of experience in his field also.
It also shows in his work ethics from all the pass vids we had a pleasure to listen to and view. So looking forward to the build of this project.
Thx kind sir. cheers
Thanks Dave
I was watching this one with interest, mostly because you had so little to go on. Now you really peaked my interest. I grew up in Okanogan County my Great grandparents on moms side settled in the the Mazama/Twisp/Winthrop area in the 1800s. I remember story's of harrowing stage coach rides and other great adventures. I've always been interested in the history of the area. I'm now watching with a lot more interest than before.
Thanks. Mike
Thank you very much love watching deductions to find out the correct shape thank you
A little detective work ... Nice find.
CSI Dave, Very interesting thank you Dave great work.
That was cool to have old pictures. Thanks for sharing.
Love the history
Super! We have now the picture. I was asking why there was this lack of historical information for this so common transport vehicle!👌😎
This really hits home since you are talking about my neighborhood this area is full of historical places and towns with all the mines and logging also ranching and farming in my area I know some of the families that have been in the area for over 100 years .
You sir are the Sherlock Holmes of the Wagon world. Quite the feat of detective work.
Dave, I recently purchased a 1924 Farmall (first year) and they hand-built 200 and 8 are left. Like you I keep studying original/period archive photos to determine what is original so it can be restored to original condition. You are always a great inspiration!
Impressive wagon forensics.