Signs of the Stagecoach Wreck | Engels Coach Shop
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- Uncovering the bent irons in the mud wagon body show tales of possibly how the stagecoach wreck may have happened. More of the picture is coming into perspective the further along we get in to this restoration project. Building and restoring horse drawn vehicles comes with it's fun discoveries.
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Thanks for taking along and all the hard work putting these videos out.
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I love how you speed up the video in editing, to get through the repetitive stuff but still show how it's done. It gives a humorous note and make it look like you're in a big hurry to get done. When you describe how the damage was possibly done, I picture Westerns where the wagons are in a chase, run off the trail and flip after shedding the occupants and the horses.
Vests are so nice. People think you’re trying to look good and I always tell ‘em how warm they are.
It was a great "who wrecked it" video. You're the Sherlock Holmes of the coach shop. Great video. Stay safe.
The forensics of rebuilding as you delve into the project are so "INTERESTING" to me. A history buff.
That is what I came to the comment section to say.
Right away wht ai was thining.
Here is where he gets into material archaeology or material history 😎
What an intriguing story is unfolding Mr. Poirot. I can’t wait for the next episode of “Murder of the Mud Wagon” !!
i want to thank whoever sent in this wrecked coach.. these repair videos watching Dave work on and fix them makes my week.. PLEASE someone find a nice project to keep this channel busy in 2023 and beyond
thanks again Dave for sharing and taking us along as you figure out what happened God bless you and yours stay safe out there ✝️👍👍👍👍👍👍
Once again nice watching Dave
Thanks again for sharing, or thanks for sharing again!
Looking good in that new vest. 👍
When I saw you bring out the old hacksaw I started to despair “Why wouldn’t Dave have a Sawzall?” A minute later and you bring out the coolest one I have ever seen! Nice!
One summer in the early 1970s I was working for a John Deere dealership in Michigan. At that time the sales team took in a lot of what could be called junk in order to make a sale. One of my jobs now and again was to break those trade-ins down so they could be sent out for scrap. An acetylene “gas wrench” was an invaluable tool.
Hacksaw blade is much thinner than a sawzall, since it's tensioned by the frame, thus hacksaw is less intrusive and more controllable.
“Unhandy” will be added to my regular vocabulary.
ah ha! Now we found out that Dave is actually an accident investigator in his off season 😁 It's fun to watch how you go through and figure out all the history and character of an old coach or wagon. It really makes you imagine what might've happened. I can picture 2 wagons running into each other on a hill, or maybe a giant straw bale rolling into it. possibly even losing control and rolling backwards into a barn. It's fun to think about it.
I don't think Quincy could have done a better job at working through the forensics of the accident.
@@tinydancer7426 not many know that Dave's real last name is Pinkerton and he spends his off days chasing train robbers 😄
I wonder what the police report said, did the insurance company approve the repairs, Always enjoy the videos
@@jeffclark2725 😄
Detective Dave takes into the "what might have been" as he unravels the accident. Always excited for Friday to see what the next "chapter" holds in restoring the Stagecoach. As always, God bless you and Mrs. Engels, and letting us share in your adventures. Thank YOU!
Dave,you are an amazing craftsman. So many different trades, carpenter, machinist, blacksmith and historian as well. I love watching you create a masterwork from junk.
I'm so hooked on the marvelous work that goes on in your shop that it is never enough , never bored with the content ! Look forward to Friday just to spend this time with you !! Thank you so very much !
I watched a guy at Knotts Berry Farm unhitch a horse from a wagon and the wagon rolled backwards because he forgot to set the brake before unhitching. A loaded wagon would have been ugly as it was a fence that stopped it undamaged. Who knows?
When they named the Sawzall, they weren't kidding! Nice detective work Dave!
I love the explanations and reasoning you get from the junk that was left, it is such fun to learn from you and your work.
It's so enjoyable to watch how precise and exact you work on all of the projects. If it's wheels or buggy tops.
I rewatched the video about adjusting gather and swing on metal axels but how are wooden axels with skeins built to allow for gather and swing?
That screw sorting tray is brilliant. Have to build myself one.
Wonder if he noticed he counted 10 screws but left with 11! 😃
It‘s actually a copy of the trays pharmacists use to count out pills. A perfect example for how helpful it can be to go through life and watch what other trades and professionals have come up with to help with little chores that might also be applicable in your own business! To build that did not take more than 20 minutes and it has saved hours of sifting through small parts. And the detective part of this build is superb! My first comment was that I wondered how Dave would ever „restore“ the pile of firewood into a coach. And by now I have to admit that I could not imagine how much information was still buried in that heap of broken wood and rusted and bent metal. This is getting like a n edition of Hercule Poirot investigation. A Happy New Year to you and your family, health and happyness with your work and thanks for the great effort to let us take part in it!
Once again thanks for the video.
No better stool to be found than a 5 gallon bucket or can Best wishes for the New Year TY 4 sharing
Sounds like the coach was rear ended... must have been driving in south Florida.😆
Love your videos, always looking forward to seeing the next one.
Davd: Your videos are getting better, I like it when you narate when you are also working. Plus your new vest looks great. Thanks for the video. David Adair
Spiffy😊
Прямо детективное расследование! Интересно.
I am always amazed at the quality of the knot-free wood you have to work with. Your quality workmanship is so wonderful to watch.
Hi Dave, another piece of the puzzle drops into place, it's sure proving interesting as this project progresses, thanks for the video mate, stay safe, best wishe's to you and Diane, Stuart and Megan UK.
CSI coach investigation I love it
Your work is Art
Great deduction again Watson I mean Dave. You're a great detective . You'll make it right as possible with all the researching you do and with some help from anyone who might chip in any helpful information. You are preserving history in your builds. Stay safe and warm up there. Fred.
Dave...I think this series is REALLY interesting for your forensics and this episode is one of the best so far
This is a unique channel.
Dave is the consummate master craftsman with such a deep knowledge of his subject area.
He workshop is a mix of old and new - old tools required for specific problems, and new ones such as battery powered tools for efficiency.
However, this channel works because he is such a good communicator using this format.
I suspect it would also work well in the shorts video format. He might have to shuffle-dance, but I'm sure he can master that too ;-)
I imagine that 20 donkeys yoked together would create a pretty powerful pull. I see these big freight trains (modern ones) that have two or three locomotives moving an enormous number of cars. If something spooked them, the donkeys might pull wagons through terrain that beat the wagons to pieces. (Although donkeys don't spook as easily as horses.)
As a vehicle tech I so much enjoy your videos the mechanics of the old school its tool craft that a Tesla tech may not learn. can I suggest you get yourself an apprentice to pass on your skills to. Thank You for sharing your skills
You know when I am drilling out a manifold bolt and re-tapping the hole thats the skill I'm thinking of
Outstanding detective work you are doing Sir. That couch will be better than new when you are done with it.
Another great tutorial,investigative ,learning video, love to watch you decipher and build this new mud wagon and the deductions you come up with. thanks for sharing. ECF
!!!! SherlockDave of ECS cheers...!!!!!!
I know of a couple incidents where Weather and water socked Ground played a hand in a disaster. The Teamster had to dive parsley close to the edge, the Ground gave way and down they went. I wonder if the road was wet and Slipper, if the Ground gave way and it slid of the Bank and crashed on the Right Rear side as it fell into a deep Draw or Ravine. Would have been a pretty picture!
David, Happy New Year!!!! Excited to see what 2023 will bring to us from the Engles Coach Shop! Todays video did not disappoint! It's absolutey fasinating to watch you constuct this pile of pieces into another work of art! I know that I can hardly wait to see the finished wagon, but there is respect for the process! As in the Borax Wagons, the Mud wagon and many of the other projects thank you for alowing us to tag along! I know it's alot of extra time to explain what your doing and I for one really appreciate it!!! Tom in Ceres
Another very interesting episode.
Do you ever feel bad when you think 'with electricity, I've just done in two hours what it would have taken the old timers a long hard day to do with just hand tools'.
You showed on the Borax wagons that you can do things the old way, but the good Lord gave us power tools so we could use them to do good work, and the old guys would have grabbed anything that took some of the hard out of the work
Безмежно вдячний, за Ваші відео і Ваш досвід, яким ділитесь з усіма. Здоров'я, успіхів і достатку у 2023 році, прийміть щирі вітання з України.
Fun to see the story unfolding. Great video once again.
Agreed...this is sort of the same story that goes with many aged things such as the "Queen Mary". When they retired her they began restoration and modifications to make her that floating Hotel a couple decades back and they had reported how her timeline was revealed simply by removing the many layers of paint from the hull. It revealed her war time and passenger ship life paint schemes as well as when she was used to bring home the inlisted after the war ended, a total modification. An interesting process for sure.
Since this mud wagon project started, I've paid more attention to "stage coaches" in old western TV series and films and few are made the same ! I can't wait to see how the coach is attached to the frame and its "suspension" work. They were pretty smart back then, no question in that. Thank you ECS.
You’re not alone.
Most of the coaches seen in film and TV were purpose-built, tho in the early days they wrecked some real ones.
@@Reziac I zeroed in on the coaches in the recent Rose Parade. They had a beauty minty blue one in front of the Wrigley Mansion. Very sweet build.
Спасибо.
That was great , painting a picture of the accident with the parts and pieces . Very interesting 👍🇬🇧
u prettu much put out bettter and better vids afrter year after year
Interesting build, and fascinating forensic history. Thanks for sharing this journey with us.
Really appreciate your detective and deductive reasoning skills. I can imagine that it may have lost a wheel perhaps. My 2nd great grandmother was killed when the front right wheel came off of a buggy she was driving and pitched her forward where the horse kicked her under the jaw. This may not have had the same result but could not have been a pleasant experience for passengers. Thanks for the video.
I'm enjoying watching your process and find your explanations quite interesting.
Thanks for sharing your work with us.
I'm not understanding how the rockers fit into the whole picture of the coach...but I'm patient...I'm certain it will be revealed in the fullness of time. Excellent work as always. Cheers
7:25 I gotta make me one of them hardware sorters!
Great job laying out the evidence of what the coach accident did to the vehicle! The evidence is always there to be seen!
Excellent sawzall work there.
Ah, a detective at work. Love ya' Dave.
Thanks Dave
Very cool.
Thanks. Mike
Interesting watching a master wheelwright-investigator rebuild the original stagecoach.
Always enjoy the videos Dave, why i watch many times
Tracing the clues of a stagecoach wreck. What a cool thing to think about.. somehow it reminds me of an episode of "pawn stars" where a guy brought in an antique shotgun that turned out to be specifically intended for guarding stagecoachs. I think you need one of those hanging in your shop.
I have an old "Coach Gun" it's a double barrel 20ga pistol. Originally designed in the 1600's. It was just a point and shoot scatter gun. This one is actually a remake of an original that I used to own, called a "French Bastards Gun" the remake is named a "Howda" Still fitting for the wild west days before modern break over shotguns. I still have a passion for old black powder guns, even though taking them out to shoot now cost a lot more that firing modern hardware.
@@picklesontheroad wow. They sound like awesome pieces
I really like that you explain everything to what might happen to the coach. I have been wanting to swing by my hometown museum to see if they have the old coach, 🤔 like the one you're working on. The coach I remember was one that ran into Hells canyon to a small mining town.
Buenas tardes, ¡Feliz Año Nuevo!
Disfruto mucho ver sus manos expertas trabajar, su amplio conocimiento, la perfección y limpieza en todos sus trabajos. Reciba un abrazo.
I love watching you work, you are an awesome craftsmen in how you figure stuff outt.
Forensic archeologist meets kinetic sculpture rendered in traditional materials.
Thanks Dave, another informative video.
Oh the detective work, Greatvideo, always enjoy
Love the analysis as you go along. Makes perfect sense as explained. Thanks very much for sharing.
It's been a long time since we've had a good Western movie ala "Lonesome Dove". I would love to see your mud wagon featured in a new movie about life on the frontier. That would be great fun. And of course Dave, you would be perfect as the driver. Let's have Robert Duval riding shotgun.
Rightly so Woodrow Call
Robert Duvall is pushing 92 years old now. So I don't know how many acting roles he wants to do anymore.
@@1pcfred Oh, I would dare ask him to do one at this stage. Unless it were to be a part as a judge or banker etc. Age kicks in and takes much out of the reality in the role.
@@Garth2011 I'd say 90s is aged. Not everyone is lucky enough to get that far.
Maybe it rolled backwards down hill into something like a ravine or off a bluff. Like it hit the backend first and flipped to upside down position?
I wonder if maybe a car or truck hit them from the back,, Can't think of anything else that could have happened, Glad you pretty much have it figured out.
That's what I was thinking. Round a corner in one of those old cars with bad brakes and you have a collision 💥
A lot of wagon accidents are simple roll aways. If the brake comes loose while the horses are unhitched a wagon can roll good backwards if it is on any kind of a grade.
Great work Dave, the story unfolds like the old west.
So interesting
Cool 👏
Love the detective work Dave! Thanks for sharing!
Another great vid.
nice new machine at 13:00
CSI Joliet
I'm one of those that have to have all the Butins facing the Right and the Hanges all slipped over the rale in the same direction! So things like this have a tendency to bug me till I make it right. I can't help but wonder why some people don't care enough to do it right the first time and pass it on to those of that do.
Just watched Hang ‘Em High and the jail wagon is exactly the same
You're like the 19th Century version of an NTSB accident investigator!
Strangely pleased but also surprised to see you use Torx head screws and then later reclaimed screws where they're visible.
Original hardware can be scarce, restoration hardware can get pricey. Modern screws when hidden, in many cases they are stronger than original.
Thanks young man....Shoe🇺🇸
Thank you for another great and informative video.
You are the Perry Mason of coach repair.
Love your forensics as well.
Fascinating, as always.
Good seeing the build coming along. Be interested in how repair the bent irons.
Don't want to think about the people and horses involved, if happened on the road. I don't see how a stage coach could run into the back of another, unless forced into it.
Always interesting, Dave !!
thanks
Great episode 😊
I love these detective shows!
Very interesting, great deduction and detective work.
What skilled craftsman. 😊👍
Love your deceive work.
Stay safe.
No seat belts or air bags back then lol 😂 later tater love from Texas
Dave, at 8:09 and again at 8:24 you wipe the screws across something. Is it soap? I use Vaseline (petroleum jelly) to lubricate wood screws. I’d be interested to know what you use and why. (Love the forensics as you explore this wagon’s history. 👏👏👌)
Soap because it's a dry lubricant so it doesn't leave an oily mess.
New chain swinger under your main sign: "Forensic coach anatomy"