Solving The Puzzle On The Mud Wagon Seat | Engels Coach Shop

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  • This mud wagon served multiple functions; hauling passengers and hauling the U.S. Mail. New photographs and information reveal that this mud wagon had a seat designed specifically for mail bags, it seems. Thanks to everyone who has contributed to solving the puzzle.
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  • @thedevilinthecircuit1414
    @thedevilinthecircuit1414 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    This channel has become a national treasure. Your reverse-engineering skills are unparalleled.

    • @PendeltonWhiskey
      @PendeltonWhiskey ปีที่แล้ว +8

      National treasure is exactly right

    • @plainnpretty
      @plainnpretty ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I agree very interesting. More please

    • @davidneilson3508
      @davidneilson3508 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They kind of remind me of those old wood working shows that where on tv many years ago. I absolutely love this channel 🌴👍👍😎🌴

    • @bruceyoung1343
      @bruceyoung1343 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank You 🙏. Fun to watch how you deduce how the mud wagon was together

    • @warwicklaken
      @warwicklaken ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely Fascinating

  • @davidoliver2826
    @davidoliver2826 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This has been one of my favorite projects. Blacksmithing, woodworking, investigating, history and the like! I always enjoy your approach and craftsmanship. Thank you Dave as always for taking the extra time to teach and take us all along on the journey! Until next time, happy trails!!

  • @gregshoopman9170
    @gregshoopman9170 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for taking me along with you

  • @richardsurber8226
    @richardsurber8226 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Yes, I say thank you also. That is an interesting story. I can see why Dave gets into these old pieces of history and makes himself available to build these coaches, and put new life to the equipment that comes in and goes out of the doors of Engels Coach Shop. Thank you Dave and Dianne

  • @brw3079
    @brw3079 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man, that belt sander is a hungry beast!😂

  • @thomasdemooka4341
    @thomasdemooka4341 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is one one the few channels I specifically check to see if I missed any content! Great work with great skills.

  • @glencrandall7051
    @glencrandall7051 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's fascinating how small details can lead to construction problem answers. Thank goodness for old photographs. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂

  • @lylefailes4476
    @lylefailes4476 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I am learning so much watching your videos. My tendency, as a woodworker, is to stand back and appreciate the work. But that is usually at the beginning and end of the day. Admire your dedication to history and recreation of the bygone Era. We may need that again if things ever go south. Simplicity has its place. Thank you for sharing.

  • @thefirstcalled
    @thefirstcalled ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can not thank you enough for sharing your life with me. But thanks again!

  • @markb1764
    @markb1764 ปีที่แล้ว

    The minivan is the modern mudwagon. Thank you for showing us how it all started.

  • @jenniferwhitewolf3784
    @jenniferwhitewolf3784 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I love how the mystery of the coach continues to unravel. History is SO fascinating. Amazing how one small detail opens up the story of so much more.

  • @clearviewtechnical
    @clearviewtechnical ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love that Dave is putting so much thought into replicating what the mud wagon was meant to be. And using the existing irons wherever possible.

  • @garrettswoodworx1873
    @garrettswoodworx1873 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Another all-to-short episode featuring the incredible craftsmanship of Dave Engel. I have to admit I'm envious of the satisfaction you must feel when a project like this one is completed and delivered to the customer. Thanks Dave and Diane for sharing your incredible accomplishments iwht us.

  • @harpomarx7777
    @harpomarx7777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to get another wagon or wheel building fix this afternoon instead of skipping your channel altogether.

  • @Jameson4327
    @Jameson4327 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    This video is why I enjoy watching your channel. I don’t recall seeing you change your mind as often as I have with one. The best part is always the end and the work that went into it! Thanks!

  • @jockcherokee5180
    @jockcherokee5180 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks again to Dave & Diane for this video. "National" treasure...no, International treasure. This video library will doubtless prove to be a refection of the knowledge & skills of a man who places the passing of knowledge to others alongside his particular craft.

  • @Renville80
    @Renville80 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gotta love those "aha!" moments...!

  • @hobbit321a
    @hobbit321a ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for taking the time to film this I pray that my grandchildren and great grandchildren will get to see theas videos😊

  • @wileycoyotesr8623
    @wileycoyotesr8623 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is a major step forward. A lot of people forget that photographers often donated their prints and negatives to State Universities. Problem is, there are too many donated collections to process.

    • @royreynolds108
      @royreynolds108 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And far too many photos have been lost that would be useful in situations like this.

  • @paulsmodels
    @paulsmodels ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been really enjoying the journey you have been on to solve the mystery of the Mud Wagon from the past.

  • @PendeltonWhiskey
    @PendeltonWhiskey ปีที่แล้ว +5

    that box of junk was lucky it found it's way to the Engels Coach Shop. Truly amazing

  • @snchilders
    @snchilders ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Don't you just love it when all the pieces fall together?

  • @guysmith1946
    @guysmith1946 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your channel to me, is the most interesting one that I watch… Many times it feels like I am sitting in your shop drinking a cup of coffee and conversing with you while you are working!!!
    Thank you and Diane for making your library and sharing your videos!!!

  • @asciimation
    @asciimation ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching those hooks being made was incredibly satisfying.

  • @tomoakhill8825
    @tomoakhill8825 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    At 16:45 it looks like Dave has a brand new power hammer. The frame has clean new paint, the bolts are shinny, as are the anvil and hammer. Nice.

  • @simsapot
    @simsapot หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow Dave, amazing fabrication, again! Thanks for the video!

  • @JAdams-jx5ek
    @JAdams-jx5ek ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good work. Well done putting the clues together.

  • @duanelundgren7985
    @duanelundgren7985 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks D & D, it is fun watching it come together!!

  • @brentbrown8393
    @brentbrown8393 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's always wonderful to watch a Blessed tradesman handle his tools. You are a gifted worker no two ways about it. Thanks for sharing your skills with us.

  • @joekelley1014
    @joekelley1014 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bet you were able to sleep better once you figured that out, with the additional information you received! Congrats!

  • @andrewmacomber1638
    @andrewmacomber1638 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing! Dave the detective! Great work!✌🏻❤️🙏🏻🇺🇸

  • @mayforddavis9291
    @mayforddavis9291 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The craftsmanship along with the Historical accuracy is what keeps me coming. God Bless You and Mrs. Engels.

  • @brianmoore5454
    @brianmoore5454 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love watching you do Blacksmithing work Dave !!!

  • @stephenhenion8304
    @stephenhenion8304 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, Dave.... what an amazing journey...those photos saved the project!

  • @markjaynes7151
    @markjaynes7151 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Your blacksmithing skills are amazing! Awesome work, from sight - no plans - just knowledge.

  • @aserta
    @aserta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like a hound on a Fox's tail, the coach detective found the clue with the help of his informants! Nice.

  • @dougc5366
    @dougc5366 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always a pleasure. The shear number of different skills you possess is amazing

  • @tomshank4446
    @tomshank4446 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WOW. That was GREAT! Nice piece of cognitive analysis. Thanks. Loved it.

  • @davidbishop4015
    @davidbishop4015 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Your homework never stops. I like how you rebuild the wagon to its original design. Changing your mind always helps the rebuild. Great content Dave. Stay safe.

    • @garthbutton699
      @garthbutton699 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I could not agree with you more!

  • @williamleinonen4888
    @williamleinonen4888 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It must feel great to solve these mysteries and have reasoning behind your decisions.

  • @rexmyers991
    @rexmyers991 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an interesting journey of discovery. You are a true archaeologist revealing the past.

  • @JimConnelley
    @JimConnelley ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well done! Crowd Sourcing.

  • @harriettedaisy2233
    @harriettedaisy2233 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With your knowledge and easy to listen to voice you would make one heckuva guest speaker at historical societies or universities.

  • @johnberryhill8106
    @johnberryhill8106 ปีที่แล้ว

    AWESOME doesn't give this continuing build credit! He is an absolute Master at his Craft .
    Love your show !

  • @louGriggs1944
    @louGriggs1944 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's amazing the way you have been able to build this wagon by solving the mystery of what it's original design was using bits and scraps of information. Great job. Thank you.

  • @thirzapeevey2395
    @thirzapeevey2395 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Backwards facing fold down jump seats also used to be common in many vehicles. In fact, I think they made it into the Checker Cab era. I've seen them in Broughams, and I've seen them in sleighs.
    Well done figuring that out. It does make sense now. That was definitely a "form follows function" wagon.

  • @catfishgray3696
    @catfishgray3696 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DAVE LOOKING GREAT AND GREAT VIDEO...TELL ALL HELLO...SEE YOU TUESDAY...

  • @timothyhill4630
    @timothyhill4630 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You are an artist in league with Baumgartner Art restoration and Thomas Johnson furniture restoration.
    My top 3 TH-cam sites. Thank you.

    • @AkX1353
      @AkX1353 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😮 THANKS. really. Just 😢 what I needed. ANOTHER high quality TH-cam channel. wait🤚you did mention TWO DIFFERENT CHANNELS😭With so much garbage out there, and I'm 70 years old & pretty much recliner bound, I still need more time to keep up with all the very very high quality TH-cam channels. Mr. Engel just 2 weeks ago sent me down the "Working Horses With Jim" rabbit hole (not to mention, but THEIR daughter has her own channel, following her old house restoration)
      Then EVERY Monday Wednesday & Friday there's Itchy Boots (nearly all of Noraly's current season 7, in North Africa made my "Itchy Boots Best" playlist (public))
      Fridays Ron Pratt (good Christian man, good family man, great problem solver)
      Ship Happens (tongue in check British couple rebuilding "Surender" a wooden mine sweeper, D-Day lead ship (the small navel vessels in front) I could go on 😊😉😋✌️

  • @19fl560
    @19fl560 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always a pleasure to look at you.

  • @dannywilsher4165
    @dannywilsher4165 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another awesome video!!! Thanks Dave!¡!¡!

  • @olddawgdreaming5715
    @olddawgdreaming5715 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And now we have the rest of the story !! What an ending find you all came up with. Fantastic job of researching done by those involved with the riddle. Thanks for sharing with us Dave and being such a patient person coming to a realistic answer to what was unseen from the photo's you were sent by the wagon owner. You did great. Fred.

  • @lineshaftrestorations7903
    @lineshaftrestorations7903 ปีที่แล้ว

    Industrial archeology is one of the challenges that goes hand in glove with restoration or recreation of an old "thing". It's as if you try to put yourself into the time period of the item and attempt to think as the craftsman or machinist did. An enjoyable process.

  • @davefrench3608
    @davefrench3608 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great project.
    Such a large amount of detective work, every element you’ve done so far makes sense.

  • @mudweimer768
    @mudweimer768 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Old pictures tell better stories than new ones while our vehicles today have everything we don’t need the ones from yesterday where built to serve a purpose with some what local materials that could be repaired rather easily makes you wonder what direction we’re going in!!!!

  • @ronharrison1776
    @ronharrison1776 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting learning the history as well as watching it put back together .

  • @richardbrobeck2384
    @richardbrobeck2384 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice I can't wait to see this wagon come back home!

  • @simoncarney9944
    @simoncarney9944 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I get excited to see a new video from you about the mud wagon and then the video ends with me just enthralled at your work and detective skills! Please don’t take this as a criticism but they’re not long enough, I could watch for hours and probably will when the whole series is done. Thank you again for letting us follow along.

  • @nbk9372
    @nbk9372 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wheelwright....Crowdsourcing, sponsored and presented by EngelsCoachShop. Imagine that, not very many content creators take kindly from their audience's input, but when the host like Dave has the "never to old to learn" mindset, well....the possibilities are endless. When you add a very supportive wheelwright wife like Diann, it sure makes the wheels turn a whole lot easier. There is much to be learned, adopted and applied from these two wheelwrights,...... I have no doubt Diann can swing a hammer like her husband Dave. Thank You Dave, Diann and the crowdsource sleuths doing what they do to help rebuild history. God bless y'all!

  • @chuckthebull
    @chuckthebull ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't always remember to click a like but when i see 24k views in 8 hours and 5k thumbs up i think more people should remember to hit that like button... another enjoyable video ... i'm mesmerized by your research and foundry skills. Fantastic sleuth work!

  • @Toms4speed
    @Toms4speed ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine if that is indeed the exact wagon in the photos... amazing!

  • @singJJBplay
    @singJJBplay ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The forensic pathology that goes into your coach building is so interesting. I always learn something when I've watched one of your videos, Dave. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with all of us. Incidentally, I found some of the forging to be a bit...upsetting...ha! (I can't resist blacksmithing humor.)

    • @tinydancer7426
      @tinydancer7426 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Forging ... upsetting ..... had to do some googling around .... 🤔 .... 😃 ..... 🤭 ..... now 🤥I get it! Good pun!

    • @gordbaker896
      @gordbaker896 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tinydancer7426 Try to resist!

    • @tinydancer7426
      @tinydancer7426 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gordbaker896 Resist what?

  • @danielrobinson837
    @danielrobinson837 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wheelwright, coach builder and now...detective! Your work is fantastic. That is obvious in the craftsmanship. But your careful research and deductive reasoning leaves me in awe. You're going to have to invest in a Sherlock Holmes style deerstalker cap to go with the leather vest. Elementary, my dear TH-cam!

  • @slyfox7429
    @slyfox7429 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nothing like a good Friday night "who dun it" murder mystery.... I'm totally fascinated by this channel. The history of some of your projects is sometimes more fun than the project at hand. I've learned a lot about woodworking and some tips on how things should be and how to fix things when they are not. One of the things I found of interest is replacing the rubber tires on a wheel. Who knew about the steel wires inside the tire ..... Anyway , keep up the history lesson and projects we'll keep watching.

  • @Ham68229
    @Ham68229 ปีที่แล้ว

    This certainly has become an extremely interesting build. Looking forward to seeing the rest of the build. Cheers :)

  • @465maltbie
    @465maltbie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This Sherlock Holmes stuff is so satisfying, thanks for deciding to share this journey with the rest of us. Charles.

  • @michaelguerin56
    @michaelguerin56 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice job. Thank you for this update.

  • @robertclines7519
    @robertclines7519 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your channel, I learn so much. Generations to come will learn from it!

  • @richardcurtis556
    @richardcurtis556 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great deductive reasoning. Also entertaining and educational lesson at the smithy. Thank you.

  • @thequickbrownfox7289
    @thequickbrownfox7289 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Preserving the past through your videos is a treasure. I am confident that your TH-cam followers would agree this is knowledge worth saving. I would suggest that you reach out to some of the contacts you have made and search for a proper "fit" - an institution that would accept your documented work and preserve it in the way it deserves. TH-cam is a good medium to share information, but it being a for profit business may not make it the best choice as an archive.

    • @PendeltonWhiskey
      @PendeltonWhiskey ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've been thinking the same thing. I'd love to see a copy of the entire series in the library of congress, just for starters

  • @catap977
    @catap977 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thank you for making all of these great videos

  • @errolpoxleitner9586
    @errolpoxleitner9586 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the ride very entertaining.

  • @wallyschmidt77
    @wallyschmidt77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a beautiful power hammer!

  • @33Duce
    @33Duce ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video.

  • @jrmintz1
    @jrmintz1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It is a mystery indeed, and watching you meticulously work it out is fascinating! Thank you.

  • @donwilliams3626
    @donwilliams3626 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This mud wagon replica is "clean" as a whistle!

  • @amateurshooter6054
    @amateurshooter6054 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Dave

  • @richardgoodhew7817
    @richardgoodhew7817 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dave fantastic to watch your workmanship.

  • @petegraham1458
    @petegraham1458 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do some antique restoration and have similar puzzles to unpack and decipher if things are repaired or original? This was a good one , I suspect you get the same feeling of satisfaction when you know you have it figured out!
    I really enjoy your channel, I grew up on a farm in Alberta but have retired after 40 years in engineering on 5 continents we lived on 3 of them and are enjoying living in the SE of USA an I spend most days in my workshop or gardens . I understand your draw to having your own piece of ground to grow and look after and run a few head of cattle.

  • @Myrune1
    @Myrune1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You have skills that today's kids may desperately need in the years to come....

  • @jimecole7291
    @jimecole7291 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SUPER!

  • @davekreidenweis3126
    @davekreidenweis3126 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow that's awesome, beautiful work Dave 😊

  • @adrianorosa8423
    @adrianorosa8423 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a wonderful job. Knowledge and painstaking research give us this wonderful work. Thanks.

  • @tomtruesdale6901
    @tomtruesdale6901 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great job you have done on figuring out what part is which and where each one goes. Outstanding Sir.

  • @freddybowman9905
    @freddybowman9905 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are a true Cartman I love your channel.

  • @tomoakhill8825
    @tomoakhill8825 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, it all makes sense. It fits together. I _know,_ from other reliable sources, that a huge number of passenger coach lines were only financially viable because of revenue from hauling the U.S. Mail. Congress knew that this was happening, and it is one of the reasons so many small towns begged for their own Post Office. It was a way to provide a passenger service to them without actually saying that is what was happening. The U.S. mail was the initial financial support for commercial air lines. So I think Dave has it correct.

  • @dennis2376
    @dennis2376 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you.

  • @abelincoln95
    @abelincoln95 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is always so enjoyable to see that cherry red steel submit to the blows of the smith's hammer...

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who's this Smith fella? We're watching Dave here.

  • @montimitchell5931
    @montimitchell5931 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is very exciting

  • @brw3079
    @brw3079 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching you bang on red hot iron just makes me grin! 😅 I can't explain why.

  • @milt7348
    @milt7348 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stay safe and we'll see you next week.

  • @singleshot2218
    @singleshot2218 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good job! You have much insight into the process of reengineering that wagon.
    Stay safe, take care and God bless!✝️🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @Mishn0
    @Mishn0 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was always thinking the front seat had open sides but I kept my mouth (fingers) shut following Abraham Lincoln's adage “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.”
    Anyway, would it have been possible to remove the front seat if there were a large load of mail bags? I think that would have been easier to tie down than some below the seat and some on top of it.
    Great video, as always.

  • @flywayhome8903
    @flywayhome8903 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again thanks for the video.

  • @ronmccabe7164
    @ronmccabe7164 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That is a sweet power hammer.

  • @PapaDan
    @PapaDan ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! Puzzle pieces falling in place. You’re quite the detective Dave!

    • @PapaDan
      @PapaDan ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Diane!

  • @gregm312
    @gregm312 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice dective work and nice work

  • @ferguscosgrave7510
    @ferguscosgrave7510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks

  • @mfreund15448
    @mfreund15448 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have a great weekend Dave!

  • @aleksandrprepelytsia
    @aleksandrprepelytsia ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Это искусство! И ты очень великий человек Энгельс, я очень обожаю твою работу и твой талант! Благослови тебя Господь на долгие года..
    Одесса . Украина.

    • @phillipsofthedriver
      @phillipsofthedriver ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Slava Ukraini!

    • @dianeengel4155
      @dianeengel4155 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thank you.

    • @AkX1353
      @AkX1353 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank YOU UKRAINE!!!
      (and thanks to Google translate so I could read it)
      Thanks and honor to Ukraine for showing the rest of the world how to fight totalitarianism.
      "Live Free or Die" is, nor should it be, just the "official State moto" of a certain USA state.
      Воля України або смерть
      русский корабль, ид__ нахуй

    • @petepeterson4540
      @petepeterson4540 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      keep watch you haven't seen anything yet. his tailoring sewing skills are outstanding plus his blacksmithing skills. give him a milling machine and metal lathe plus a foundry and there would not be anything he couldn't do.

    • @ermelindowenceslauqueiroz8894
      @ermelindowenceslauqueiroz8894 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@dianeengel4155⚘️ beckoning from Minas Gerais State, Brazil. I appreciate Dave accent, he speaks singing like we in Minas Gerais State. Greetings.

  • @JuanEspinoza-zl1yy
    @JuanEspinoza-zl1yy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello from Las Vegas Nevada
    GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY