Finding Hidden Bolts Reveals Original Coach Design | Engels Coach Shop

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  • I found some original bolts under the repair irons that help indicate how this drivers box was built. This has been the challenge of this wrecked stagecoach called the mud wagon. Building and restoring horse drawn vehicles often come with discoveries of different builder's styles.
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  • @markwatson9816
    @markwatson9816 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Seems to me that you're one of the very few people who when you buy carriage bolts actually uses them on a carriage!

    • @antiowarr9467
      @antiowarr9467 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      lol lol

    • @ron.v
      @ron.v ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hilarious! I spoke something similar (but less humorous) to myself then read your brilliant comment.

    • @lifefromscratch2818
      @lifefromscratch2818 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Also one of the few who uses bolt cutters to cut bolts.

    • @JorgeM523
      @JorgeM523 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am always learning something new that is amazingly simple but effective. No lock tight needed, nip and mushroom the end.

    • @secretsquirrel6308
      @secretsquirrel6308 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What's neat is we see many of these hardware and application right up through the automotive industry. This lasted unto perhaps the early 1990s.
      Quite often do restorers of old cars and trucks see the same hardware and uses.
      Tqo days ago I visted my friend who is restoring several old trucks (Chevrolet and Ford). While I was there he was fitting the bed and quarter panels. He was doing very much the same we see Mr. Engels doing here and using the same hardware.
      Of course I see the same on my Dodge Power Wagon.

  • @TheVwgolfmk1
    @TheVwgolfmk1 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I am constantly fascinated by the way you figure out how this carriage is supposed to come together. Can't wait for the next instalment of ' Wagon CSI '

  • @johnkelly6942
    @johnkelly6942 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m glad you’re rebuilding this coach to the “pre-wreck” configuration. No need to preserve the old patches.

  • @AlexTaradov
    @AlexTaradov ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's a lesson to never do a sketchy repair job, or someone 100 years later may be critiquing your work.

  • @johnalexander4356
    @johnalexander4356 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Only your experience allows for a person to decipher that puzzle!

  • @jameskaufmann4260
    @jameskaufmann4260 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's a great day watching a real craftsman at work. Keep up the amazing work in all that you do!👍

    • @motagrad2836
      @motagrad2836 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Artist. Craftsman. Mechanic. Machinist. 😎

  • @ron.v
    @ron.v ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This has been such an interesting and exciting adventure. It's as if you're not only restoring a bit of transportation history but that you're bringing it's entire story alive from its birth until the present.

  • @jamesgreer1048
    @jamesgreer1048 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s a great pleasure to watch a master craftsmen at work…and like all the greats so humble with it..

  • @brucemeller2794
    @brucemeller2794 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Dave, another captivating video. Thank you. I’m so glad that you’re removing the “after-market” accretions. No point trying to replicate a wrecked carriage. But you’re still respecting that this was a cheaper carriage, and so you’re honouring it’s real history. 👍👌🫶

  • @scottwilcoxson2439
    @scottwilcoxson2439 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's amazing watching you intelligently decipher a pile of rotten wood and rusty iron. Can't wait to see the poor thing proud again!

  • @thisolesignguy2733
    @thisolesignguy2733 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I think it's amazing how you can look at an iron and tell exactly what it is/was. Although, I do the same thing with old signs. When you specialize in something, you're always amazed at the people that specialize in other things. But man, you have no idea how much I use everything I've learned from you! For instance, today I was trying to figure out how to install some aluminum rod LED strips in a cabinet when I thought "I remember Dave did something like this on that chuckwagon a couple years ago when he did the slats for the roof...hmmm" and after some digging I found it and used the same method in a slightly different way. Saved me a ton of work trying to figure it out! So again, you saved my butt for the up-teenth time😉

  • @secretsquirrel6308
    @secretsquirrel6308 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I simply wish to applaud the efforts of Miss Diane. These videos are a real treat.
    As I have said before. I greatly enjoy the scenic views at the beginning and end.
    The landscape view at the beginning of this video looks to contain a sun pillar. That is a real joy.
    Of course, the skill and ingenuity of the shop help is highly appreciated. Its a real treasure to watch one so dedicated to the many facets of his craft.

  • @catfishgray3696
    @catfishgray3696 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DAVE, GREAT JOB, SEE YOU WEDNESDAY, GREAT VIDEO...TELL ALL HELLO...

  • @richardthornhill4630
    @richardthornhill4630 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Solving the carriage puzzle piece by piece. Excellent restoration project by a craftsman.

  • @milt7348
    @milt7348 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quite the mystery. Stay safe and we'll see you next week.

  • @vicpatton5286
    @vicpatton5286 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dave, you are the "Sherlock Holmes" of Joliet, Montana! Fascinating to follow how you unravel the mysteries. Thank you for the education and entertainment. regards vic

  • @stuartlockwood9645
    @stuartlockwood9645 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Dave and Diane ☺, thanks for another interesting video, the resulting repairs after the wreck keep showing up as you take apart the old bits and pieces of wagon, but progress is good considering what you have to puzzle out as you go along, and that for me is what I find so interesting, cheers Dave, stay safe, best wishe's to you and Diane, Stuart and Megan UK.

  • @ralphsullender2474
    @ralphsullender2474 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your detective work will bring this coach to a very good result.

  • @stg6186
    @stg6186 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hope that you are enjoying this process as much as we are. It’s a fascinating piece of detective work. You have endless patience which is very inspiring.

  • @johnsebar7807
    @johnsebar7807 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Just a repeat of what many are saying. Your skill at analyzing pieces of metal and falling apart wood is just something else. "Follow along" you bet, check constantly to find your latest updates. Have gone back to many of your older videos, The Chuckwagon was just pure art. Wonder if the owner has any pictures of it after leaving the shop?

  • @shortfuse43
    @shortfuse43 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your craftsmanship on the wagon and the detective work you do to sort out what the original would look like are wonderful to watch. BTW, I love the way you clock the nuts on the carriage bolts. Classy

  • @richardsurber8226
    @richardsurber8226 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Dave for the next episode. Like you say, A bit of a puzzle

  • @normdyer94
    @normdyer94 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    TH-cam channel Todays Wild West did a nice 7 minute presentation of your work. Viewers here will enjoy it.

  • @tonydewey3023
    @tonydewey3023 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    More intriguing than a sherlock Holmes case. Cant wait for the next bit. Tony. Ireland

  • @railroad9000
    @railroad9000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dave,
    I'll bet you are a wizard at jigsaw puzzles!

  • @chrisbartrum3201
    @chrisbartrum3201 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    There's not many that can make driving a nail with a hammer can emulate an air-hammer at work. Kudos, Mr.Engels. Great work as always.

  • @BruceEEvans1
    @BruceEEvans1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the Saint Anne's Reel music. 😀

  • @manfredschmalbach9023
    @manfredschmalbach9023 ปีที่แล้ว

    I particularly liked the "Sherlock Wheelwright" series so far. Thanks for sharing all Your considerations with the work!

  • @RobbieSongwriter
    @RobbieSongwriter ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating to see the complexity of how this was built, then repaired. You are the 👨‍🍳KING of forensic scientists re wagons/carriages, and its a priviledge to watch this reconstruction. Mark Watson - genius hilarious observation.😂 Thank you again Dave, for sharing your amazing knowledge and talent.🤠

  • @fredferd965
    @fredferd965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The world's greatest jigsaw puzzle!!!

  • @jeffclark2725
    @jeffclark2725 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always enjoy being invited to your shop , this project is really coming along, on another note that leather vest is really working well,

  • @jerryh4983
    @jerryh4983 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    When you first pulled that project out my thoughts were why did the family keep that scrap. Now as the puzzle comes together I see an heirloom full of family memories they will enjoy for many more generations.
    Thanks Dave, I’m definitely following along!

    • @davidn.gaskill5774
      @davidn.gaskill5774 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you are not doing motel video

    • @secretsquirrel6308
      @secretsquirrel6308 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Discovering the methods of past craftsmen and just delving into history has an allure all its own.

    • @bruceyoung1343
      @bruceyoung1343 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I know that you will get er together. Thank You for letting us to watch

  • @patrickcolahan7499
    @patrickcolahan7499 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks very much for sharing. Love to watch you break things down. A challenge and a fun puzzle.

  • @64Pete
    @64Pete ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you say you're getting full contact, I believe you brother. Nice work as always. ✌🇦🇺

  • @n4leqonthego852
    @n4leqonthego852 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I really enjoy the process of figuring out how this coach goes together, beautiful work.

  • @jimdee5003
    @jimdee5003 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Craftsman and puzzle solver 👍👍

  • @petejohnson8590
    @petejohnson8590 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am so impressed by you, I am fascinated you do such natural work, your eyes take in everything, you are very inspiring, thank you from Grandpa Pete, greetings from France 🇫🇷🙏👍👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

  • @tinachambers4887
    @tinachambers4887 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I knew you would figure it out Dave am enjoying series have a day love from TEXAS

  • @olddawgdreaming5715
    @olddawgdreaming5715 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You're doing a great job making sure everything fits and the job will look original. That's art work Dave. Fantastic !! It won't be much longer. Stay safe and keep up the great videos and the fun too. Fred.

  • @Vic1943_
    @Vic1943_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

    thanks for sharing and taking us along as you figure it out God bless you and yours ✝️ stay safe out there 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @duanelundgren7985
    @duanelundgren7985 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yep, I like it... drill bits need to be STEERED whether drilling wood or metal!! Regarding the curious fittage, the phrase comes to mind: Making a Silk purse out of a Sow's ear.. 🙂 Thanks, Dave & Diane, I'm enjoying this!!

  • @JorgeM523
    @JorgeM523 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your knowledge and skills and keeping this Art alive keeps me watching, just like a mini-series, I am always waiting patiently for the next episode. Thanks for Sharing!

  • @MrJeffro56
    @MrJeffro56 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Surely enjoy watching your videos! Will never build a wagon or fix a wagon wheel but I at least have some basic knowledge of just how complex it is.

  • @paulkramer4176
    @paulkramer4176 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm enjoying this series more than most others, though wheel building and turning hubs was hugely interesting to me as I've never done that, this is fascinating in that while I've built lots and lots of "cabinets and boxes etc, the detective work here is great. I'd never have known enough to see what you are seeing. Great job.

  • @dennisgibbs6811
    @dennisgibbs6811 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Three threads exposed beyond nut and/or attachment point. Just sayin'! You're still the best!

    • @deconteesawyer5758
      @deconteesawyer5758 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends how much of your hide you want to scrape off brushing up against it.

  • @Daniel-gi3jo
    @Daniel-gi3jo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A bed, a wash basin and pitcher along a wall. 19 rooms, makes sense.

  • @cyrilhudak4568
    @cyrilhudak4568 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think what you have shown us is a classic example of a (horse)shoe maker repair.

    • @leebarnes655
      @leebarnes655 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very much so and my money is on the issue that he was the only bidder on the wrecked heap 'O parts after the crash. I don't quite follow Dave's halfhearted "end over end" suggestion of the crash however, but do favor a misparked wagon and a train perhaps or even a redwood section awaiting load out near the train station that just got away from them and did a slow motion roll into the wagon that also shouldn't have been sitting in that precise location that day. Stuff happens as they say, that part is a certainty just as much as that guy murphy was afoot back in those days too.

  • @Landrew0
    @Landrew0 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love these detective stories, where you decipher the way a wagon was built originally.
    What I don't like is when you show us your mean streak by doing a video about sanding.

    • @dwightl5863
      @dwightl5863 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sanding is part of the build. Take the good with the "bad".

    • @Dave-ty2qp
      @Dave-ty2qp ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL Sorry it comes with the territory.

  • @glencrandall7051
    @glencrandall7051 ปีที่แล้ว

    After having read most of the preceding comments about all I can add is BRAVO. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.😀😀

  • @Dave-ty2qp
    @Dave-ty2qp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dave this has to be the most interesting video you have made so far. In my line of business which was aircraft repair, knowing the history of the bird was paramont in affecting a repair proceedure. This was extracted from the aircraft logs, and an aircraft without logs are worthless, and cannot even be registered in many countries, nor ever flown into most countries. LOL Even with carefully maintained logs, one must really pay attention when attempting a repair. Lives depend on it as did they back in the day.

  • @rdaltry777
    @rdaltry777 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome as always

  • @steveshoemaker6347
    @steveshoemaker6347 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks very much young man 👍
    Shoe🇺🇸

  • @larrykelly2838
    @larrykelly2838 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great detective work.

  • @rustyrobinson8027
    @rustyrobinson8027 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    His hammering skills are top notch very professional 👍

  • @fredcorbit5078
    @fredcorbit5078 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You have a curious combination of wood and fire
    Luv the show

  • @mfreund15448
    @mfreund15448 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Happy Friday!! Dave is here!!

  • @MarcvanExel
    @MarcvanExel ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a very interesting rebuild and I'm convinced you will bring it to a good end. Have a great weekend!

  • @williamkn621
    @williamkn621 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Entertaining educational, as always enjoyed

  • @waynespyker5731
    @waynespyker5731 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Uniformity........ Solves the secrets!

  • @bvalt1
    @bvalt1 ปีที่แล้ว

    So much fun to see how the pieces all come together!!

  • @jeffwhyte1
    @jeffwhyte1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I know you’re a Makita man. But for your sawsall you ought to check out the Milwaukee Hacksaw. It’s great for one handed cuts. It’s a lot less taxing on the wrist. With more control. I have both in Milwaukee. And the hacksaw is my go to tool when I’ve only got one free hand. I don’t know if Makita has anything like it. It would be nice if they did. I do know you can buy a battery adapter so you could keep using your Makita batteries with it. Just a thought to make your work a little easier. Keep up the great work you’re channel is great to watch. And I’ve picked up some good knowledge.

  • @jsaurman
    @jsaurman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:40 OMG, is that a TORX screw? Hell must have frozen over. LOL.

  • @tomtruesdale6901
    @tomtruesdale6901 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You would make a great detective as you look at a problem and figure out the solution to it. Great job you are doing on that coach.

  • @davidbohner692
    @davidbohner692 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Museum quality work and attention to detail.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️✅✅✅✅✅

  • @MakeItWithJim
    @MakeItWithJim ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best thing on TH-cam - love your work

  • @ZigZagMarquis
    @ZigZagMarquis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find some similarity between what you are doing here with this old coach rebuild and what Squatch253 is doing over on his channel with his X231 tractor rebuild. Thank you for your videos and channel. I enjoy watching. Please keep the videos coming.

  • @stevep3840
    @stevep3840 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can be called the Sherlock Holmes of Carriage and Wagon building. Great work. Fun watch.

  • @richardwhite1975
    @richardwhite1975 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice job on the historical forensics. Your skill and craftsmanship amaze me.

  • @ColonelVermel
    @ColonelVermel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your videos are just great. It is such a pleasure to watch a master craftsman doing his work and your explanations are really informative!

  • @465maltbie
    @465maltbie ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for sharing how you figure things out, of course you can only do this because you have the experience of doing this many times before. Charles

  • @zedhead2864
    @zedhead2864 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This sure is an interesting project, Dave. Really enjoying this series. Also: Amazing shots on the intro/outro!

  • @mangajack
    @mangajack ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Square holes in the irons will determine the head of the bolt location in the side irons....

  • @timeflysintheshop
    @timeflysintheshop ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It has been nice seeing a bit of green in the background of the videos in the shop since you brought in the geraniums! 😁👍

  • @rudie2902
    @rudie2902 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video! Very intriguing puzzle you are solving.

  • @jkerr7331
    @jkerr7331 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent job. I love the detective work and the in-depth explanations as you attempt to figure out original vs repair.

  • @MrAvjones
    @MrAvjones ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don't forget to check the drive shaft while you are under the wagon.

    • @edhansen8531
      @edhansen8531 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      4 X 4, also check transfer case.

  • @dumitruadriannas8889
    @dumitruadriannas8889 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🇲🇩 foarte frumoase lucrări faceți succes in continuare

  • @hasletjoe5984
    @hasletjoe5984 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do I get the feeling that the pencil marks are only for folks like me to see what you are doing? Love that early version of loctite (Peening nut)! Watch another channel with a fella similar to you. He is restoring an old hotel. Uses a lot of the same skills as you. Same mannerisms too. Even looks a bit like you! Thank you for all your hard work making these videos.

  • @johnsnoek9112
    @johnsnoek9112 ปีที่แล้ว

    Forensic making, brilliant!

  • @richardbrobeck2384
    @richardbrobeck2384 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work with the Coach!

  • @payntpot7623
    @payntpot7623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heads up watchers; this is Nuts (and Bolts) and will have you seeing double and diving for cover (pairs of Bolt Holes). The only thing it does not get down to is Brass Tacks (yet......)

  • @stewartfrye
    @stewartfrye ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sherlock rides again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @brucemeller2794
    @brucemeller2794 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving these videos, Dave. Thank you.

  • @amateurshooter6054
    @amateurshooter6054 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Dave

  • @simonmcowan6874
    @simonmcowan6874 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful to watch how it is coming together.

  • @charliebryson1285
    @charliebryson1285 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    will your brother in law ever be making any more videos on the lamps, really enjoyed watching those also?

    • @dianeengel4155
      @dianeengel4155 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he's planning to at some point.

  • @mikemayer4303
    @mikemayer4303 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really appreciate the time taken to explain what you have found in the coach jig saw , it is really fascinating how the puzzle evolves . I for 1 will follow along as instructed. Thanks for sharing .

  • @errolpoxleitner9586
    @errolpoxleitner9586 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good explanation. And work on this gem

  • @drbichat5229
    @drbichat5229 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job as usual

  • @flywayhome8903
    @flywayhome8903 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again thanks for the video.

  • @cliftonwilliams639
    @cliftonwilliams639 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is a coach in Holbrook Arizona that is on top of a store front that you might be able to get some pictures from maybe some one in Holbrook might send you looks like same type of coach you are working on I might be wrong

  • @chuckthomas8176
    @chuckthomas8176 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great !

  • @mrsbobbinlacer
    @mrsbobbinlacer ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video it is so interesting to watch your thought process in fixing something correctly.

  • @jsaurman
    @jsaurman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    10:02 That's really strange grain direction on those boards. Maybe those were in the bargain bin at the sawmill.

  • @thomasschurmann322
    @thomasschurmann322 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, for all your work and time!

  • @JAdams-jx5ek
    @JAdams-jx5ek ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doing good work.

  • @winstonsmith9740
    @winstonsmith9740 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Speed and skill. A lost combination. The jigsaw of old weathered timber is straight-out "wabi-sabi" art BTW, certainly worth keeping - would make an interesting wall hanging.

  • @bobdavis5216
    @bobdavis5216 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As always, i see the difference between caring about the end result and just getting it done. how many times do you bolt things together and then take them completely apart for 1/8 of an inch to get it right, not just done. Lead by example.

  • @alanmitchell7322
    @alanmitchell7322 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very good work well explained and very interesting.

  • @rodneywroten2994
    @rodneywroten2994 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for sharing